u dont necessarily need Pagos since greninja, cram and sableye already do that for u, even then against specific single prize decks if u decide to go Pagos they can double gust around the effect and ko it in return so it doesnt really feel that great, also Iron hands is already really good into single prize decks lol
@@soulknight6644I think more so into ancient box if that ever becomes popular, but the double gust is possible to break the lock. I do like pagos into bolt as pika knock outs can be resource intensive
@ its still pretty easy to go Gate+hand attachment, especially if Bolt list dont play Cologne or Iono that turn, also against Bolt u can also spam Ursaluna towards the end of the game if u wanted too, Spit onto an Ogerpon can also force Charm onto that damaged Ogerpon because Sableye can just KO it later down the line, Lost Zone usually has a good time into Bolt unless they play Slither Wing but u can always go around it. Basically u have lines that dont require another space in the list just to use Pagos in specific mu’s, when Pika does most of the work
@@1260-i3f He says at the beginning of the video that he would remove iron hands. So yes sableye, but then what. If that gets lost city then you are done.
I REALLY would like to start Pokemon and I grew to love this deck, is it worth to get now or is it going to rotate away soon therefore not a good choice? Thank you for any feedback!
So lost zone is basically going to rotate around march-ish of next year. This deck won't exist but I'm sure some other pikachu ex strat might come to pass although idk how good it would be. Imo, Azul is kinda clickbaiting with the title as the BDIF rn is Regidrago which basically destroys lost zone with Kyurem's attack. I think lost zone box is really good but it does rotate soon and loses to the best deck right now kind of hard. My advice, the best deck to start pokemon is the deck that you will have the most fun with so that you can learn while having fun.
@@beanzu8996I believe Radiant Zard is the only big hit Charizard will take once the next rotation occurs. I don’t think that will be a huge deal since you could just throw in a Bloodmoon EX after that Edit. Almost forgot about Rotom and Lumineon. Losing those may wind up hurting Charizard’s consistency, but new cards will be printed before then so too early too tell on those
Well… i got most of the cards to play the deck but here in Brazil prime catcher is extremely expensive and i cannot afford it now… Is there any other good ace spec that could replace prime catcher? I plan to build this deck this month! Im excited to come back to the game Cheers!
The list is pretty good, the only things i want to try and test r cologne and counter catcher for the deck, Cologne for Manaphy decks, maybe certain things like Cornerstone mask, Flutter Mane/Klefki(depends on how popular Garde/Ancient Box is) for example and counter catcher is just good for 3rd gust option if Pal Pad gets Lost Zone
You have to find prizes with your other attackers until you can get the energy you need. I think a lot of Lost Zone Pikachu decks are running 2 energy of each type for this reason.
All it does is decrease the cost of retreat to zero it doesn't actually increase the amount of pokemon you can cycle to the active in one turn like switch or switch cart do. Rescue board does the same thing while not taking bench space and not being a 2 prize liability.
I messed up in my editing and put a Archaludon game in there I’ll edit it out and it should be updated soon
0:00 Deck Discussion
3:50 Round 1
12:36 Round 2
30:20 Round 3
48:09 Round 4
1:06:19 Round 5
@12:44 Arch gameplay instead of Pikachu LZB
That threw me for a second
i enjoyed my time
Oooops
Playing one terapagos in the deck, makes the single prize decks pretty easy. all energys are in the deck anyway.
Stop revealing the sauce
u dont necessarily need Pagos since greninja, cram and sableye already do that for u, even then against specific single prize decks if u decide to go Pagos they can double gust around the effect and ko it in return so it doesnt really feel that great, also Iron hands is already really good into single prize decks lol
@@soulknight6644I think more so into ancient box if that ever becomes popular, but the double gust is possible to break the lock. I do like pagos into bolt as pika knock outs can be resource intensive
@ its still pretty easy to go Gate+hand attachment, especially if Bolt list dont play Cologne or Iono that turn, also against Bolt u can also spam Ursaluna towards the end of the game if u wanted too, Spit onto an Ogerpon can also force Charm onto that damaged Ogerpon because Sableye can just KO it later down the line, Lost Zone usually has a good time into Bolt unless they play Slither Wing but u can always go around it. Basically u have lines that dont require another space in the list just to use Pagos in specific mu’s, when Pika does most of the work
I love your analysis here
I’m glad to see lost box getting some love got 3rd place with similar list on Monday deck out tournament
I like having gravity mountain in case you run into hydregon/charizard
Thanks for tip
1:30 What is the deck building site he is using?
How does this deck Vs charizard, regingbolt , lugia and snorlax stall ?
When is the rotation?
This deck desperately needs a non-ability attacker though. With Milotic ex and cornerstone ex going around. need a way to answer.
Sableye? Iron hands?
@@1260-i3f He says at the beginning of the video that he would remove iron hands. So yes sableye, but then what. If that gets lost city then you are done.
Ninja can snipe around ogerpon
@@ChrisBeverly requires more things to be benched. Why bench anything else though if you lost zone the sable eye?
You could always just play Iron Thorns ex too, it sweeps Lugia and any Milotic
I REALLY would like to start Pokemon and I grew to love this deck, is it worth to get now or is it going to rotate away soon therefore not a good choice?
Thank you for any feedback!
So lost zone is basically going to rotate around march-ish of next year. This deck won't exist but I'm sure some other pikachu ex strat might come to pass although idk how good it would be.
Imo, Azul is kinda clickbaiting with the title as the BDIF rn is Regidrago which basically destroys lost zone with Kyurem's attack. I think lost zone box is really good but it does rotate soon and loses to the best deck right now kind of hard.
My advice, the best deck to start pokemon is the deck that you will have the most fun with so that you can learn while having fun.
@@Manley410anything in charizard that is at risk of rotating? Don’t know if I should keep playing it or not
@@beanzu8996I believe Radiant Zard is the only big hit Charizard will take once the next rotation occurs. I don’t think that will be a huge deal since you could just throw in a Bloodmoon EX after that
Edit.
Almost forgot about Rotom and Lumineon. Losing those may wind up hurting Charizard’s consistency, but new cards will be printed before then so too early too tell on those
And Forest Seal Stone
I would get the deck the pieces that are rotating are cheap and the others are generic enough so u will get fair use out of them
Also is the second dialgs arch game supposed to be there?
No lol
Well… i got most of the cards to play the deck but here in Brazil prime catcher is extremely expensive and i cannot afford it now…
Is there any other good ace spec that could replace prime catcher?
I plan to build this deck this month! Im excited to come back to the game
Cheers!
Try a legacy energy or unfair stamp. Should be cheap
The list is pretty good, the only things i want to try and test r cologne and counter catcher for the deck, Cologne for Manaphy decks, maybe certain things like Cornerstone mask, Flutter Mane/Klefki(depends on how popular Garde/Ancient Box is) for example and counter catcher is just good for 3rd gust option if Pal Pad gets Lost Zone
43:27 Bro really wanted to drop a beat on Colress hm?
What happens if you prize a psychic or grass? I just had it happen to me and the game felt really difficult then
I personally play 2 grass, 2 psychic and 2 sableyes for these cases
You have to find prizes with your other attackers until you can get the energy you need. I think a lot of Lost Zone Pikachu decks are running 2 energy of each type for this reason.
When will rotate lost box cards?
March 2025
We got an Arch Dialga freebie lesgoo
ive been liking lost box sylveon
Always the bridesmaid never the bride😢
What do you think of using Latias Ex in the deck to cycle more Comfeys?
Bench space is a issue and having boss targets when attacking with pikachu is an issue
All it does is decrease the cost of retreat to zero it doesn't actually increase the amount of pokemon you can cycle to the active in one turn like switch or switch cart do. Rescue board does the same thing while not taking bench space and not being a 2 prize liability.
Sixth specifically
Lost Box? in this economy??
That's what I'm saying
Manaphy is your friend
nobody plays manaphy anymore, unironically stonks
Excuse why are you so elegant
Gouging fire is still the way to go
Double manaphy 😂
This deck is way too convoluted. Im sure its good but its too anxiety inducing.
Skill diff (it's a Rube Goldberg engine built around Gate and whatever attackers gud)
This deck is so weird, man
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