I like the design (slim and all metal) but it is not reliable. I have two dead 8800 GT with that cooling system. Another one Asus 8800 GT two slot and with a big heat sync and big fan is still working.
@@nexus_tech I haven’t been feeling that well lately but nothing too serious. Very busy though with work and two kids, one being newly born. I’ve lost a bit of interest in retro computers at least as far as collecting things. I realised I don’t have space or time for everything. Not to mention I need to cut down on purchases as inflation is increasing food prices and fuel and since my wife is home taking care of the baby we get less income and eventually I will take over. Sweden has a very generous system for allowing the parents to stay home for about a year after birth but you don’t get your entire salary. The spare time I’ve had I’ve been doing console gaming instead. I don’t think the TH-cam channel idea will happen but I hope to still watch yours. I admit I lost a bit of interest when you changed the content a bit. I understand you got very excited about your new 3080 ti and wanted to look at it and such but personally I am more interested in your content in older hardware since it is more unique. That is just my personal preference though and not criticism.
Hello mate! Sorry to hear that! Congrats - in a way - you're doing the right thing, unlike me hahaha! I'm so fed up, I have way too much stuff laying around, I can feel you! World is not heading in right direction, sadly, I can't think we two can do much about this...What console did you get ? I needed to try other topics as well, I saw the decline in watch counts and overall fall too. Such is TH-cam, I appreciate your honesty and thank you for your support :)
@@nexus_tech I have pretty much every console from the last couple of decades except for PS5. I started as a console gamer and that has usually been my main hobby although I like computers too and sometimes I play more PC. Right now though I am really enjoying the Xbox Series X. Been playing some old original Xbox and Xbox 360 games and it runs many games at 4k which gives new life to the old games. I did get a few newer games as well but haven’t played them that much yet. Hardware Unboxed is one of my favourite TH-cam channels and they said that to succeed you need to find a niche and stick to it. However there are people doing more random stuff like Dawid Does Tech Stuff but he has the comedy that makes people watch more for that than to actually learn anything. I hope you find your style and that it is something you actually like. I don’t think you can do something you don’t enjoy just because it is popular because then it won’t work in the long run.
I like stock design of hd 3850 & 4850. 8800 gt looks nice too. You done right thing show those thermals and noise lvls of 2 cards i was corious about that. Thanks for vid, nice to watch. Looks familiar to F2F tech, sadly he stop producing them.
Hi Alex! Thanks for stopping by and appreciate your feedback! I believe thermals and noise are very important factors when living with a GPU :) That's an honour, did he stop making them ??
This must be one of the best videos on your channel so far in terms of editing, the vibe of your videos reminds me a bit of F2F Tech, don't know if you watched his videos :) As for the results, I think the drivers on Nvidia's cards for the 8000 series really help out as they always have been great, but of course the 8800GT is the more powerful card here. I once had a HD 3850 256MB which ran GTA V at 720p 40fps, as well as a 8800GTS in perfect condition, that one was just a joy to look at :D In my country, the 3870 can be had for only 10$ but the 8800GT is 20$ or a bit over that, considering the performance difference it makes sense and also a bit of an advantage for the 8800 is that it natively supports windows 10 with the latest drivers, the 3870 doesn't, but you can install them manually in a few minutes, still on the 3870 windows 10 can produce quite a lot more issues then a 8800GT with official drivers.
Hi mate, Thanks for your nice feedback! Of course, I admire his videos, so knowledgeable! I was expecting the HD 3870 to punch harder, however, the G92 was quicker than G80 - makes me wonder by how much, perhaps that would be a much closer battle :) I got both cards significantly cheaper, they just gone up in price! 15 year old cards, haha! I saw no issues on either of the cards :)
One of your best videos so far. I had a HD3870 but it was quickly replaced by a 8800GTS 512MB version. That was the golden era for hardware. I got a job around that time and most of my money went in to PC hardware. As i said before, these days hardware is kind of boring. Hope Intel GPUs will spice things up in the future.
Ahh! Thank you mate!!! :) Really appreciate your feedback! Well, I'm here for your entertainment - hope to deliver haha! :) I have the GTS and GTX too!
I'm afraid we're reaching limits at 5nm. Time to make the chips bigger and underpowered them to run cooler to defeat heat constraints. The old 3870 gpu core is the size of a dime.
I had the sapphire single slot version of the 3870 in late 2008. Then I got a second one for crossfirex and was able to play crysis at very high 1050p at 30fps
I wish GPU makers would make bare copper heatsinks again. I think they look awesome and classy. I know msi did a 980 ti gold edition with bare copper and EVGA did it on the kingpin 1080 ti but every brand should have there own copper models every gen.
I would like to know the test system in the vid, as that gives a better idea about the wall power draw, but since you tested both cards in the same system it's a nice comparable. I'm excited for the dual gpu round!
Great point! I'm, not sure how I did not insert that information in there, must have slipped out :) The Bench runs 10850K and 32GB of 3200MHz memory. Glad you enjoyed the video and same here, I'm only about to start testing those now! :)
One thing this doesn’t take into account is how the nvidia drivers tended to be more CPU heavy than ATIs. Idk if that was still a thing with later drivers, but in the old Radeon days it was like that
I tested this Team Red card recently against the brother of the Nvidia example here, the 8800 GTS, gaming on a native 900p monitor. The latter card won hands down, with Tomb Raider and Crysis both being smooth and highly enjoyable; the HD 3870 could unfortunately only produce a stuttery mess in both cases. I got mine for 7 and 9 bucks respectively. The Nvidia beast will end up in a retro machine based around a modded 775 board with a Xeon E5450 :).
Hello mate! Thanks for checking out the video :) I've not had too much trouble with the HD 3870, I have the GTS and GTX too, might be a interesting follow-up video. That's great choice, still very impressive for 15 year old GPU, isn't it ?
Unless I'm crazy, I remember the 8800GT specifically launching at 249USD. Edit: I wasn't crazy. TPU has the launch MSRP listed at 349 for some reason but reviews I remember reading about the card back in 2007 state the launch price of 199-249 as stated by nvidia.
Hmmm! I looked at few reviews and price ranges from 199USD up to 349 USD. Somewhere I read there was an actual shortage of those G92's. If we go by price of 249 USD, it makes the 3870 look much less appealing. Thanks for checking out the video, hope you enjoyed :)
I'm afraid we're reaching limits at 5nm. Time to make the chips bigger and underpowered them to run cooler to defeat heat constraints. The old 3870 gpu core is the size of a dime.
the cards i got has the agp 3850 blue shroud with the same decals still neat to buy a higher binned pcie card for under 10 percent of the price of the agp 3850 version
Hello, one question. I have been trying to install the drivers for my laptop graphics card. It has amd radeon 6480g and 7400m and when installing it comes out a blue screen.
Hello mate! Did you remove previous drivers using Display Driver Uninstaller ? I would recommend you give it a go - it helped me in the past to resolve some BSOD's :) What OS are you running ?
@@nexus_tech I have not tried ddu but I will try and my os is windows 10 pro 64 bits I tried to install the drivers in windows 7 and it did not work either
It's so funny as I very well remember having both cards, 2x 3870 crossfire and 2x 8800GT SLI... And I don't know what happened back then in 2008, but those 3870's were absolute dogshit. Also crossfire seemed to be the biggest issues to get working, I had a particular game I played (Live For Speed) with 40FPS for the ATI cards versus 300FPS on the 8800GT's... it was unbelievable and could not understand. I bought a special motherbord with dual AMD cpu's and official crossfire support, still didn't work. After a month or so I sold everything I had AMD related and kept my E6600 + 8800GT's. There must have been something very wrong but my experience with the 3870 is the worst of all videocards I have owned. And that's almost everything from the 3DFX Voodoo1 up till that moment in time.
Hello Stefan! Thanks for sharing your experience :) Well, I think AMD has not had their best guns out back then! 8800GT in SLI must have murdered the poor pair of 3870's! haha! My experience was not as bad - but clearly - the Nvidia card has the leg! :)
It's ridiculous how amd having drr4 compared to nvidias ddr3 still didn't help amd beat the competition even in today's games if I had gotten into gaming back in the day it would have been hard to convince my grandpa to buy me the 8800gt
Hello mate! I know, The card runs overall higher clocks and yet, not enough to beat the mighty 8800 GT - there was a reason for it to be very popular back in the day :)
The 3870 was never the 8800 beater. It's well known it fell short but had been designed slightly before. It was ATi bluff that brought the 8800 as most manufacturers were holding back to make the next big thing.. This was fully known at the time. As Nvidia had this up their sleeve for quite a while. The kick back was the 3870..... X2 Which was a card that could beat the 8800 by a margin and was of course a dual GPU on a single card. It was beat by the 9800 shortly after. ATi being know for the bluff and at it's limits never came back. But in the day, it was about quality and in a few ways for the lower frames (which are not important as you think) was the better visuals of the cards they made... Go back a few cards and game with a ati card and play the same game looking at the difference... If you can see it.. I have all the cards mentioned, and was a system designer and builder (GT Ultima). We made the top end bench leading systems back then. So had the latest and greatest as well as a hand in the wheel. If it was over 30fps is was good and playable. You 100% never wanted any lows of
why dont you specifically install 3870 driver ? 3800 series is good enough but i dont like series i like specific driver they are included in the pack you should just install them manually by choosing "let me choose " and i have disk ...
Hello mate, I did just that, as that's now unfortunately the only way to get the CC to work under Windows 10 :) I've made a video covering the install here: th-cam.com/video/aAXSnoX4y08/w-d-xo.html
8800gt was the last single slot video card I own'd and it was a beast!
Yeah! That thing rocks!!! Small form factor FTW!!!
I like the design (slim and all metal) but it is not reliable. I have two dead 8800 GT with that cooling system. Another one Asus 8800 GT two slot and with a big heat sync and big fan is still working.
I had the XFX 8800 GT XXX Alpha Dog Edition. It was great back then.
Nice to see you looking at old graphics cards again after a few videos of other things.
Hello mate :) Thank you, hope you enjoyed. I missed it, I admit! :) Plenty more to come! Hope you're well ?
@@nexus_tech I haven’t been feeling that well lately but nothing too serious. Very busy though with work and two kids, one being newly born. I’ve lost a bit of interest in retro computers at least as far as collecting things. I realised I don’t have space or time for everything. Not to mention I need to cut down on purchases as inflation is increasing food prices and fuel and since my wife is home taking care of the baby we get less income and eventually I will take over. Sweden has a very generous system for allowing the parents to stay home for about a year after birth but you don’t get your entire salary. The spare time I’ve had I’ve been doing console gaming instead. I don’t think the TH-cam channel idea will happen but I hope to still watch yours. I admit I lost a bit of interest when you changed the content a bit. I understand you got very excited about your new 3080 ti and wanted to look at it and such but personally I am more interested in your content in older hardware since it is more unique. That is just my personal preference though and not criticism.
Hello mate! Sorry to hear that! Congrats - in a way - you're doing the right thing, unlike me hahaha! I'm so fed up, I have way too much stuff laying around, I can feel you! World is not heading in right direction, sadly, I can't think we two can do much about this...What console did you get ? I needed to try other topics as well, I saw the decline in watch counts and overall fall too. Such is TH-cam, I appreciate your honesty and thank you for your support :)
@@nexus_tech I have pretty much every console from the last couple of decades except for PS5. I started as a console gamer and that has usually been my main hobby although I like computers too and sometimes I play more PC. Right now though I am really enjoying the Xbox Series X. Been playing some old original Xbox and Xbox 360 games and it runs many games at 4k which gives new life to the old games. I did get a few newer games as well but haven’t played them that much yet. Hardware Unboxed is one of my favourite TH-cam channels and they said that to succeed you need to find a niche and stick to it. However there are people doing more random stuff like Dawid Does Tech Stuff but he has the comedy that makes people watch more for that than to actually learn anything. I hope you find your style and that it is something you actually like. I don’t think you can do something you don’t enjoy just because it is popular because then it won’t work in the long run.
I like stock design of hd 3850 & 4850. 8800 gt looks nice too.
You done right thing show those thermals and noise lvls of 2 cards i was corious about that. Thanks for vid, nice to watch. Looks familiar to F2F tech, sadly he stop producing them.
Hi Alex! Thanks for stopping by and appreciate your feedback! I believe thermals and noise are very important factors when living with a GPU :) That's an honour, did he stop making them ??
This must be one of the best videos on your channel so far in terms of editing, the vibe of your videos reminds me a bit of F2F Tech, don't know if you watched his videos :)
As for the results, I think the drivers on Nvidia's cards for the 8000 series really help out as they always have been great, but of course the 8800GT is the more powerful card here.
I once had a HD 3850 256MB which ran GTA V at 720p 40fps, as well as a 8800GTS in perfect condition, that one was just a joy to look at :D
In my country, the 3870 can be had for only 10$ but the 8800GT is 20$ or a bit over that, considering the performance difference it makes sense and also a bit of an advantage for the 8800 is that it natively supports windows 10 with the latest drivers, the 3870 doesn't, but you can install them manually in a few minutes, still on the 3870 windows 10 can produce quite a lot more issues then a 8800GT with official drivers.
Hi mate, Thanks for your nice feedback! Of course, I admire his videos, so knowledgeable! I was expecting the HD 3870 to punch harder, however, the G92 was quicker than G80 - makes me wonder by how much, perhaps that would be a much closer battle :) I got both cards significantly cheaper, they just gone up in price! 15 year old cards, haha! I saw no issues on either of the cards :)
One of your best videos so far. I had a HD3870 but it was quickly replaced by a 8800GTS 512MB version. That was the golden era for hardware. I got a job around that time and most of my money went in to PC hardware. As i said before, these days hardware is kind of boring. Hope Intel GPUs will spice things up in the future.
Ahh! Thank you mate!!! :) Really appreciate your feedback! Well, I'm here for your entertainment - hope to deliver haha! :) I have the GTS and GTX too!
I'm afraid we're reaching limits at 5nm. Time to make the chips bigger and underpowered them to run cooler to defeat heat constraints. The old 3870 gpu core is the size of a dime.
I remember I replace the old Geforce GTX7900 with a HD3870....
I had the sapphire single slot version of the 3870 in late 2008. Then I got a second one for crossfirex and was able to play crysis at very high 1050p at 30fps
Nice review. I tough the 8800GT/9800GT 512MB rival was the HD4850 512MB
Thank you :) Both cards released around the same time and I had them on hand hence the Battle.
@@nexus_tech can you test both? 😄
I had a GIGABYTE GeForce 8800GT TurboForce back in 2008 and it was one of the best GPUs I ever owned.
That 8800 GT in my eyes its like a Shelby GT 500. An unnecessary old muscle CARd that i want.
Hi mate! Thanks for stopping by :) Well, it's 15 years old and won't get any younger haha
A GT to another GT
I wish GPU makers would make bare copper heatsinks again. I think they look awesome and classy. I know msi did a 980 ti gold edition with bare copper and EVGA did it on the kingpin 1080 ti but every brand should have there own copper models every gen.
Totally agree!!!!
awesome video
Expected Result. Also shows why 8800 GT was so popular back in the day.
Hello mate! Thanks for checking out the video and agreed, it was not even close!
I would like to know the test system in the vid, as that gives a better idea about the wall power draw, but since you tested both cards in the same system it's a nice comparable.
I'm excited for the dual gpu round!
Great point! I'm, not sure how I did not insert that information in there, must have slipped out :) The Bench runs 10850K and 32GB of 3200MHz memory. Glad you enjoyed the video and same here, I'm only about to start testing those now! :)
One thing this doesn’t take into account is how the nvidia drivers tended to be more CPU heavy than ATIs. Idk if that was still a thing with later drivers, but in the old Radeon days it was like that
8800GT was a great card for budget gamers back in the day.
Thank you :) Glad you enjoyed
this is a great Idea
I tested this Team Red card recently against the brother of the Nvidia example here, the 8800 GTS, gaming on a native 900p monitor. The latter card won hands down, with Tomb Raider and Crysis both being smooth and highly enjoyable; the HD 3870 could unfortunately only produce a stuttery mess in both cases. I got mine for 7 and 9 bucks respectively. The Nvidia beast will end up in a retro machine based around a modded 775 board with a Xeon E5450 :).
Hello mate! Thanks for checking out the video :) I've not had too much trouble with the HD 3870, I have the GTS and GTX too, might be a interesting follow-up video. That's great choice, still very impressive for 15 year old GPU, isn't it ?
Unless I'm crazy, I remember the 8800GT specifically launching at 249USD.
Edit: I wasn't crazy. TPU has the launch MSRP listed at 349 for some reason but reviews I remember reading about the card back in 2007 state the launch price of 199-249 as stated by nvidia.
Hmmm! I looked at few reviews and price ranges from 199USD up to 349 USD. Somewhere I read there was an actual shortage of those G92's. If we go by price of 249 USD, it makes the 3870 look much less appealing. Thanks for checking out the video, hope you enjoyed :)
GeForce 8800 GT had drivers from 2016, while Radeon HD 3870 had from 2012 but can use custom drivers on windows 10.
I'm afraid we're reaching limits at 5nm. Time to make the chips bigger and underpowered them to run cooler to defeat heat constraints. The old 3870 gpu core is the size of a dime.
the cards i got has the agp 3850 blue shroud with the same decals still neat to buy a higher binned pcie card for under 10 percent of the price of the agp 3850 version
i just snatched 2 iconic sapphire hd 3870s for $12 a piece time for some old school xp crossfire testing :)
I still have my 8800GT with a Coolermaster glacier 9200 waterblock :)
What is the button for on the hd3870? on the back near the crossfire connector, gpi06/gpi07
Hello, one question. I have been trying to install the drivers for my laptop graphics card. It has amd radeon 6480g and 7400m and when installing it comes out a blue screen.
Hello mate! Did you remove previous drivers using Display Driver Uninstaller ? I would recommend you give it a go - it helped me in the past to resolve some BSOD's :) What OS are you running ?
@@nexus_tech I have not tried ddu but I will try and my os is windows 10 pro 64 bits I tried to install the drivers in windows 7 and it did not work either
It's so funny as I very well remember having both cards, 2x 3870 crossfire and 2x 8800GT SLI... And I don't know what happened back then in 2008, but those 3870's were absolute dogshit. Also crossfire seemed to be the biggest issues to get working, I had a particular game I played (Live For Speed) with 40FPS for the ATI cards versus 300FPS on the 8800GT's... it was unbelievable and could not understand. I bought a special motherbord with dual AMD cpu's and official crossfire support, still didn't work. After a month or so I sold everything I had AMD related and kept my E6600 + 8800GT's. There must have been something very wrong but my experience with the 3870 is the worst of all videocards I have owned. And that's almost everything from the 3DFX Voodoo1 up till that moment in time.
Hello Stefan! Thanks for sharing your experience :) Well, I think AMD has not had their best guns out back then! 8800GT in SLI must have murdered the poor pair of 3870's! haha! My experience was not as bad - but clearly - the Nvidia card has the leg! :)
the amd card looks amazing
It's ridiculous how amd having drr4 compared to nvidias ddr3 still didn't help amd beat the competition even in today's games if I had gotten into gaming back in the day it would have been hard to convince my grandpa to buy me the 8800gt
Hello mate! I know, The card runs overall higher clocks and yet, not enough to beat the mighty 8800 GT - there was a reason for it to be very popular back in the day :)
Can't wait until the HD 5770 comes to the stand >:3 (or the 6770 or 7770)
Thank you for checking out the video - the 7770 sounds good! :)
5770 and 6770 are same cards
The 3870 was never the 8800 beater.
It's well known it fell short but had been designed slightly before. It was ATi bluff that brought the 8800 as most manufacturers were holding back to make the next big thing..
This was fully known at the time. As Nvidia had this up their sleeve for quite a while.
The kick back was the 3870..... X2
Which was a card that could beat the 8800 by a margin and was of course a dual GPU on a single card.
It was beat by the 9800 shortly after. ATi being know for the bluff and at it's limits never came back.
But in the day, it was about quality and in a few ways for the lower frames (which are not important as you think) was the better visuals of the cards they made...
Go back a few cards and game with a ati card and play the same game looking at the difference... If you can see it..
I have all the cards mentioned, and was a system designer and builder (GT Ultima).
We made the top end bench leading systems back then. So had the latest and greatest as well as a hand in the wheel.
If it was over 30fps is was good and playable. You 100% never wanted any lows of
why dont you specifically install 3870 driver ? 3800 series is good enough but i dont like series i like specific driver they are included in the pack you should just install them manually by choosing "let me choose " and i have disk ...
Hello mate, I did just that, as that's now unfortunately the only way to get the CC to work under Windows 10 :) I've made a video covering the install here: th-cam.com/video/aAXSnoX4y08/w-d-xo.html
Drivers, drivers, drivers, the cursed of AMD
11.1 drivers perform better than 13.1 drivers on AMD legacy cards
Those GPUs never supported directX11.
Quick video covering the AMD driver install under Windows 10: th-cam.com/video/aAXSnoX4y08/w-d-xo.html
i have 8500gt