Suicide bothers people, but all the rape scenes were ok? Or were those removed too? Some of those were way worse to watch than the suicide scene. 🤷♀️ Yes, that scene was hard, but there was a huge story behind it. That's why they have the warnings before you watch. 🤦♀️
@@adonaitdaniel1282 sorry for the year long delay in responding. Sometimes I don't see responses...I 100% agree that suicide should not happen, but neither should rape. The broom stick scene was way harder to watch than the suicide scene. Neither should happen, but they do and if they allow the rape scenes, they need to keep the suicide scenes because that was part of the story line. The warnings were there, so we knew what was coming and we continued to watch. People getting upset over certain topics really have no right to complain because they were warned. ALL of those scenes were tragic and triggering, but ALL were part of the story. They should not pick and choose what is worse to watch, it's all or nothing if they want it that way, but oh yeah, that takes away from part of the story. 🤷♀️
In my opinion it was an important scene. It showed the reality of a suicidal person and to what extent depression can make them do things no matter how much they will suffer while doing it. The show portrayed that without sugar coating it. They didn't tried to make it look less gruesome and painful which most other shows do.. For me that is "glorifying" suicide not this. Scenes dealing with suicide, bullying, assualt, rape should make audience uncomfortable!! I know there are some people suffering from mental issues which can get triggered by some scenes shown on this show. I personally think they should not watch the show or watch it after somebody they know has watched it so that the person can tell them which episodes they should skip. I think scenes like this make the people realise that such acts are not for TV/Netflix!! These things happen in real life to real people!! P.s Sorry for the rant but it's true
Yeah i never understood, for me it was even more deterrent, you can really see the pain in Hannahs face, the whole scene is just shocking and not somehow romantic at all to me.
It was a big mistake to delete the suicide scene. It was as powerful even because it was like it was. In which world it romantise suicide? 13rw is known and loved for the honestly and brutal reality. Hannahs scene do happen exactly like this in real life too for some ppl. Its a fact and not romantic in any way. Deleting this scene was like cutting out part of 13rw soul. I tried suicide myself but this scene didn't trigger me, bc i accepted it as given, needed, reality. What use its to make such a series but starting censoring or lying? Some ppl here wrote, that some other scenes was more hard to watch, as for example the rape scenes. I completely can sign this. They was way harder, but they are still in, and its good so. I am glad I have still the original episode with this scene in.
I’m so happy that you made it out alive. Life is a gift, and you are in this world for a reason. It can always improve, and you can have the brightest future ever. I’m extremely glad that you are still here with us
They removed the suicide scene which yeah I get it it is so sad but it is the truth believe it or not theres people everyday dying like this. And the show gets so much hate just because it is raw. I personally love 13RW it made me learn so many things and it changed me but in a better way. Just because one person hates it doesn't mean that everyone hates it!
I’m 10 and I watched this, it didn’t hurt me or anything, it just taught me that I should never take things as granted since it will all come to an end.
It is he’s just saying it wrong. El-e-tay is not the spanish pronunciation so idk why he’s saying it like that. (If you want to say it with more spanish pronunciation you can say it eh-le-teh)
Ani wasnt as bad as a character. Tbh her story could’ve been better unlike just throwing her in there they could’ve just made her storyline where she was Hannah’s old bestfriend or something like that idk
Great show. I convinced my daughter to watch it. She's just out of school and works with training dogs for special needs people. I have to admit that my concerns about her peace of mind and bouts with depression worried me greatly. 13 RW was quite possibly a lifesaver for her. It started conversations and gave us a sounding board to bounce ideas off of. In a time when it seems like the world is out to kill us... we must protect each other. Peace,
Favorite character is either Tony or Montgomery they drove the plot pretty well and displayed different aspects of teen struggle; even though Tony looked way older lol. Least favorite character by far is Alex he contradicts himself way too much in season 3.
a girl killed herself the way hannah did after watching the show and the mother really blamed the show,even though every episode they tell you watch with a friend or a trusted adult😐 and to NOT watch alone if you are struggling.(rip to her tho💕)
They just added that message to the show because when it first came out there wasn’t a warning I remember because my sister watched it and attempted suicide but lived. They didn’t add the warnings until after the backlash
I don't think so, because 13rw S1 came out 2017,s2 2018 and s3 2019(they talked abt s3 in this video), Elite came out in 2018 but they already started filming at the end of 2017(I'm not very sure abt that but one actress posted on January 2018 that she turned 18 and the whole elite cast was next to her so ig they started filming the 1st season in 2017), but I still don't think 13rw stole/inspired smt from Elite, they are both good series in their own way and yeah lol
central intelligence 13 reasons why came out before Elite. So Elite got inspired by 13 Reasons why. Even if they filmed elite before, it wasn’t popular till Netflix bought the show & 13 reasons why was.
It is. Samuel has the same character like Clay and he felt in love with Marina, like Clay with Hannah but then Marina went with Nano and Hannah with Zach & when both died, both Samuel & Clay wanted to know what happened to the girls & both driving a bicycle lol
As a psychologist, I understand the producers' struggles around how to depict suicide in order not to romanticize it and risk to indirectly encourage it rather than discourage. In my opinion it was a good idea to change the way Hannah dies, from drug overdose to a more crude method, that took a lot of romanticization away indeed, but as for removing the most graphic scenes, I don't think that helped. Those deleted scenes could definitely strike or even traumatize viewers, but this has not much to do with encouraging or discouraging that action. If you want to end your life, not knowing exactly how to do it won't be enough to stop you from finding a way to do it. It would be hypocrisy to believe this. Encouraging people to seek help, the whole semicolon symbolism and the entire message of the series, that's what teenagers need in my opinion. Is the original suicide scene too crude for teenager viewers? Probably, and so are all the rape scenes... but I believe 13RW is a show for parents and teachers rather than for teens. Politically correct-ness has never saved a life. I am not from USA, and probably culture makes a difference, probably in Italy our collective subconscious is so full of graphic depictions of tortured saints on ancient frescoes, that blood, death and pain on screen has a different effect on us... but after all is said and done, they should probably have left the suicide scene uncensored and add a disclaimer encouraging teenagers to watch the show together with their parents, creating opportunities for emotional, open-hearted dialogue.
I can't believe that they ended up removing that scene completely. That's dumb and makes no difference or sense either... But also like as hard and painful as that moment is to watch. The hardess and well as most painful moment and part of the whole thing was when her mom actually does find her and her reaction as well
Did anyone else watch the suicide scene on Netflix before it got taken down? It was gruesome, I felt a burning sensation on my wrists. I still don’t understand why they kept the bathroom scene though
Really? I hope now not anymore. 😅 I had no problems but I was warned. I watched Tyler's scene with Clay in season 3 on TH-cam before watching season 2.
I did exactly what Hannah did with 2 big differences. 1: it was YEARS ago and 2: I survived. There was nothing on tv at the time to play a part in my attempt. I’ve watched this show. It didn’t trigger me at all(but I see how it could). In fact, my thought was “had I seen this back in the day(Hannah’s face, parents finding her), maybe I would’ve asked for help sooner”
Smh. Tbh it makes me mad they took the suicide act out, tbh wouldn't it be better for people to see how it effects people right then and there, I also think it would have been better if Hanna had a older and younger brother/sister so that people with siblings could see what happens when they see them dead too. In my opinion it would lead people away from suicide just seeing what could happen to their family at the moment of them finding out what happened.
The suicide scene was especially emotional for me because I had tried to kill myself In the same exact manner and in the same place over 20 years ago. Gratefully I did not succeed.
Kinda disrespectful to get that tattoo when you're not battling depression. It isn't about struggling and pulling through, it's about clinical depression which none of them have.
Guys its been 4 years already and i just finished the show yasterday i dont know if there is anyone seeing my comments but i just want ask if everyone doing alright this show made me see the world in a diffrent way and i hope you all doing great with your lifes , this show encourage me to make my dream true i really want live in the usa in the evergreen town the same as the serie
They absolutely should’ve removed the suicide scene. 13RW, showed KIDS one of the most LETHAL ways to KTS. I work in medicine, & when I 1st watched the scene, I was sick to my stomach. I instantly knew the outcome would not be good, & wouldn’t let my teenage daughter watch the series.
The whole scene needing to be removed thing, they were explicitly told by experts NOT to do that before they even published the show. The fact that they left it in to begin with was a really bad and fucking stupid decision.
Why are people getting mad because they kept the rape scene and took out the suicide scene, it doesn’t matter it u “can’t handle it” ITS WHAT REALLY HAPPENS! it’s a HORRIBLE thing that happens to so many people but Netflix isn’t going to sugar coat it.
I’m mad that they took out the suicide sense,, hear me out,, it brings the whole message in the show,, this show is about suicide, drug usage, abuse, sexual assault,, etc talking out the part just takes out the whole message of the show
Ughh I was just about to write the same thing, this comment needs to be moved up bc it's so tru. When I watching elite I was like this has such more depth then 13rw
Elite is terrible and most of the reasons for their actions don't make much sense. How does Lu get away with what they hounded Polo for? Pretty not well thought of
As a former actor on this show, a lot of this is wrong. Like a lot of it. I’m litterally in some of the scenes shown here. Anyone with SPECIFIC question, and want a REAL answer to something. Comment them below and I’ll try to answer as many as I can
There's no dumber "peer pressure" producers faced than removal of Hannah's suicide "AS FILMED per script" 2 yrs post-production. Let's delete the entire series, wait, its the series in its original entirety (& ALL RAW REALITY) that creates its best, effective deterrent against suicide! If you remove the ugly reality of it, you open up curiosity & kids will explore slitting their wrists in real life, since the show was forced to remove those scenes. Are they blind how dangerous it is to remove the raw violence (intended to detur teen suicide in this manner. Why should anyone's voice ruin Hannah's suicide as 1st filmed!? This critical deterrent scene is for the rest of the world, to show them the pain & how bad it is! W/o this scene, suicide curiosity & attempts likely increase! Its why Drivers Ed classes show graphic deaths resulting from high speed collisions without seat belts! This show's edit is So wrong & more deaths will result because of it!
I live in Iran and still so many girls at my school has tattoos it’s very easy and normal even here , off course it’s not a big deal in America , I mean we don’t even need our parents approval because tattoos are illegal anyway
Monty is one of my favorites after season 3. Don't care what people say, he isn't a completely terrible person. Highly misunderstood. He doesn't know how to show his emotions properly.
ill do anything to bring this show back but ill choose the same ppl but different people to direct and do better, im not gonna lie the was kinda a mess
Is that even legal laughing my ass off how do they not know like in order to get a tattoo or piercing if you are not 18 or over the age of all you need is your parents consent that you take to a person that is a notary to notarize it it's very simple I mean if your parents or a guardian so you can like have anybody basically be okay with and approve of it sign the paper haven't notarized that's it simple as that there's nothing illegal about it
Tyler's rape was way more shocking than the suicide scene
Definitely facts both were bad but Tyler’s scene shocked and upset the shit out of me for about a week
pokelover66544 - I agree, it was horrible to watch. I couldn’t watch, all of it, especially because he was using his coping mechanism.
pokelover66544 tyler’s rape was probably the worst scene in the story tbh
@@emilyd1611 agreed
@@KP-rh5qz same here
Suicide bothers people, but all the rape scenes were ok? Or were those removed too? Some of those were way worse to watch than the suicide scene. 🤷♀️ Yes, that scene was hard, but there was a huge story behind it. That's why they have the warnings before you watch. 🤦♀️
I watched all seasons a few weeks ago. The suicide scene is gone. All other scenes are in it.
Me personally have no problem with it.
@Ces Dela Cruz then you missed all the normal stuff 😅 the only abuse scenes are in season 1 and 2
Laura Chapman Suicide shouldn’t happen to anyone like for this not to happen 🙏
@@adonaitdaniel1282 sorry for the year long delay in responding. Sometimes I don't see responses...I 100% agree that suicide should not happen, but neither should rape. The broom stick scene was way harder to watch than the suicide scene. Neither should happen, but they do and if they allow the rape scenes, they need to keep the suicide scenes because that was part of the story line. The warnings were there, so we knew what was coming and we continued to watch. People getting upset over certain topics really have no right to complain because they were warned. ALL of those scenes were tragic and triggering, but ALL were part of the story. They should not pick and choose what is worse to watch, it's all or nothing if they want it that way, but oh yeah, that takes away from part of the story. 🤷♀️
@Levin Mwangi sorry, I hope I didn't ruin anything if you haven't made it that far yet. 🤦♀️😔🤞
I don’t understand why people think the suicide scene romanticises suicide in school we have to read romeo and Juliet how does that end
Right???
In my opinion it was an important scene. It showed the reality of a suicidal person and to what extent depression can make them do things no matter how much they will suffer while doing it. The show portrayed that without sugar coating it. They didn't tried to make it look less gruesome and painful which most other shows do.. For me that is "glorifying" suicide not this. Scenes dealing with suicide, bullying, assualt, rape should make audience uncomfortable!!
I know there are some people suffering from mental issues which can get triggered by some scenes shown on this show. I personally think they should not watch the show or watch it after somebody they know has watched it so that the person can tell them which episodes they should skip. I think scenes like this make the people realise that such acts are not for TV/Netflix!! These things happen in real life to real people!!
P.s Sorry for the rant but it's true
Reading about it and actually seeing is reeeeally different.
Believe me, I'm suicidal
Yeah i never understood, for me it was even more deterrent, you can really see the pain in Hannahs face, the whole scene is just shocking and not somehow romantic at all to me.
Really good point
Who is absolutely gutted that 13 Reasons why is over :(
Yes! Literally dont know what to do with my life without it
me :(
Yavar Durrani They ended on season 4
Adonait Daniel qhas e
I balled my eyes out when Justin died
It was a big mistake to delete the suicide scene. It was as powerful even because it was like it was. In which world it romantise suicide? 13rw is known and loved for the honestly and brutal reality. Hannahs scene do happen exactly like this in real life too for some ppl. Its a fact and not romantic in any way. Deleting this scene was like cutting out part of 13rw soul. I tried suicide myself but this scene didn't trigger me, bc i accepted it as given, needed, reality. What use its to make such a series but starting censoring or lying? Some ppl here wrote, that some other scenes was more hard to watch, as for example the rape scenes. I completely can sign this. They was way harder, but they are still in, and its good so. I am glad I have still the original episode with this scene in.
I’m so happy that you made it out alive. Life is a gift, and you are in this world for a reason. It can always improve, and you can have the brightest future ever. I’m extremely glad that you are still here with us
Ikr???? "Vulnerable young audience". Shouldn't watch this show at all!!! Oo
Marie Thomas because some people find it disturbing 😔
Adonait Daniel so?? it's specified that it's a disturbing scene, skip it, or don't watch the show at all
Stefanie Barrett idc
they never should've deleted that suicide scene
They removed the suicide scene but left the bathroom scene lmao
if you watch it on soap2day its still in
Fr
People who watched 13rw commited suicide exactly like Hannah did
Right. I skipped that scene yesterday actually. I can't watch that again.
@@mirte4477 yeah that's true but that's why they have the warnings at the beginning of the episodes.
They removed the suicide scene which yeah I get it it is so sad but it is the truth believe it or not theres people everyday dying like this. And the show gets so much hate just because it is raw. I personally love 13RW it made me learn so many things and it changed me but in a better way. Just because one person hates it doesn't mean that everyone hates it!
Thank god i saw it bfore they removed
@@doof3231 yes me too
I could relate too that scene so much
IT had something special for me
@@janneke4536 yes i felt it too... I hope youre doing okay now?
@@janneke4536 i hope you are doing fine ♥️
@@killerqueen6733 im fine thanks, i am not giving up
I’m 10 and I watched this, it didn’t hurt me or anything, it just taught me that I should never take things as granted since it will all come to an end.
Wish more 10 year olds had a similar mindset
Yeah same, i've watched this when I was 11.
I believe that bullying is universal. So no matter the culture, country or color you are most teens all over the world are affected
I thought ELITE was pronounced el-eet not el-e-tay
It is he’s just saying it wrong. El-e-tay is not the spanish pronunciation so idk why he’s saying it like that. (If you want to say it with more spanish pronunciation you can say it eh-le-teh)
Me toooooooooo
el-e-tay is pronounced in Spanish. You can also call it el-eet in English.
Depends on the accent I guess
Just wanna point out I went to school with freshmans with tattoos, it's not that hard to get them
They were not freshman they were juniors then seniors
timothée_chalamet_fan um no I'm not talking about the characters I'm talking about people I went to school with
Ani wasnt as bad as a character. Tbh her story could’ve been better unlike just throwing her in there they could’ve just made her storyline where she was Hannah’s old bestfriend or something like that idk
Yeah I like the idea of Hannah old's bestfriend
Great show. I convinced my daughter to watch it. She's just out of school and works with training dogs for special needs people. I have to admit that my concerns about her peace of mind and bouts with depression worried me greatly. 13 RW was quite possibly a lifesaver for her. It started conversations and gave us a sounding board to bounce ideas off of.
In a time when it seems like the world is out to kill us... we must protect each other. Peace,
Just some days to go for season 4😁❤
RiwaZ GameR this is gonna be a long ass week
They delayed it
Pooja Topo they didn’t
Theres season 4 ??
Bruh im watching season 3 now and man, theres spoilers everywhere for season 4😭
When I found out they where removing the Hannah scene I bought the DVD.
They never should've removed the suicide scene.
I agree!
Favorite character is either Tony or Montgomery they drove the plot pretty well and displayed different aspects of teen struggle; even though Tony looked way older lol. Least favorite character by far is Alex he contradicts himself way too much in season 3.
@@dianasonntag7499 Thats Alex not monty
a girl killed herself the way hannah did after watching the show and the mother really blamed the show,even though every episode they tell you watch with a friend or a trusted adult😐 and to NOT watch alone if you are struggling.(rip to her tho💕)
They just added that message to the show because when it first came out there wasn’t a warning I remember because my sister watched it and attempted suicide but lived. They didn’t add the warnings until after the backlash
@@akiraimani1591 The warnings were there from the beginning. The girls mother was looking for someone to sue so she could get money.
So you want to tell me that people are mad that the show romantises suicide but make the show remove the actual brutally honest razor scene?
I think 13 reasons why was filmed before elite came out. And I also think they wrote the script way before too
Way before what
I don't think so, because 13rw S1 came out 2017,s2 2018 and s3 2019(they talked abt s3 in this video), Elite came out in 2018 but they already started filming at the end of 2017(I'm not very sure abt that but one actress posted on January 2018 that she turned 18 and the whole elite cast was next to her so ig they started filming the 1st season in 2017), but I still don't think 13rw stole/inspired smt from Elite, they are both good series in their own way and yeah lol
central intelligence 13 reasons why came out before Elite. So Elite got inspired by 13 Reasons why. Even if they filmed elite before, it wasn’t popular till Netflix bought the show & 13 reasons why was.
It is. Samuel has the same character like Clay and he felt in love with Marina, like Clay with Hannah but then Marina went with Nano and Hannah with Zach & when both died, both Samuel & Clay wanted to know what happened to the girls & both driving a bicycle lol
Wow🤣🤣
Which do you like better, Samuel or Clay?
True... And may be i felt personally i started loving polo in elite and walker in 13rw..by reachin its end
Its so perfect that Tony drives a red Mustang, it fits his profile
I’m so, so glad that they got support while acting 🥺❤️
I would've enjoyed Selena as Hannah too I think she could've portraided that role really well
Waiting for June 5.....
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😔😔
Art should not be censored. That deleted scene is what made the show so memorable.
Suicide shouldn’t happen to anyone Remember you are loved you are beautiful 💕💯
As a psychologist, I understand the producers' struggles around how to depict suicide in order not to romanticize it and risk to indirectly encourage it rather than discourage. In my opinion it was a good idea to change the way Hannah dies, from drug overdose to a more crude method, that took a lot of romanticization away indeed, but as for removing the most graphic scenes, I don't think that helped. Those deleted scenes could definitely strike or even traumatize viewers, but this has not much to do with encouraging or discouraging that action. If you want to end your life, not knowing exactly how to do it won't be enough to stop you from finding a way to do it. It would be hypocrisy to believe this. Encouraging people to seek help, the whole semicolon symbolism and the entire message of the series, that's what teenagers need in my opinion.
Is the original suicide scene too crude for teenager viewers? Probably, and so are all the rape scenes... but I believe 13RW is a show for parents and teachers rather than for teens.
Politically correct-ness has never saved a life. I am not from USA, and probably culture makes a difference, probably in Italy our collective subconscious is so full of graphic depictions of tortured saints on ancient frescoes, that blood, death and pain on screen has a different effect on us... but after all is said and done, they should probably have left the suicide scene uncensored and add a disclaimer encouraging teenagers to watch the show together with their parents, creating opportunities for emotional, open-hearted dialogue.
I can't believe that they ended up removing that scene completely. That's dumb and makes no difference or sense either...
But also like as hard and painful as that moment is to watch. The hardess and well as most painful moment and part of the whole thing was when her mom actually does find her and her reaction as well
I wish that they were going to make season 5
Natalie Simmons yea but about Hannah. I don’t understand how everything went downhill after Hannah’s death.
Did anyone else watch the suicide scene on Netflix before it got taken down? It was gruesome, I felt a burning sensation on my wrists. I still don’t understand why they kept the bathroom scene though
ok, but what about the bathroom scene ?? i seriously could not get over it, and it literally haunts me every night.
Really? I hope now not anymore. 😅 I had no problems but I was warned. I watched Tyler's scene with Clay in season 3 on TH-cam before watching season 2.
I really don’t think this show is glamorizing suicide because it shows the effects of the suicide on your family and friends.
I didn't even know the Suicde scene was graphic cause I watched it after they edited it out
Elite is a coincidence because 13rw has been doing the flashback version of storytelling since season 1
Season 3 gave me pretty little liars vibes 100%
Cecilia Wilkie Ikr!!!
Kinda but PLL is more suspenseful
I did exactly what Hannah did with 2 big differences. 1: it was YEARS ago and 2: I survived. There was nothing on tv at the time to play a part in my attempt. I’ve watched this show. It didn’t trigger me at all(but I see how it could). In fact, my thought was “had I seen this back in the day(Hannah’s face, parents finding her), maybe I would’ve asked for help sooner”
Smh. Tbh it makes me mad they took the suicide act out, tbh wouldn't it be better for people to see how it effects people right then and there, I also think it would have been better if Hanna had a older and younger brother/sister so that people with siblings could see what happens when they see them dead too. In my opinion it would lead people away from suicide just seeing what could happen to their family at the moment of them finding out what happened.
I can’t wait for season 4
The suicide scene was especially emotional for me because I had tried to kill myself In the same exact manner and in the same place over 20 years ago. Gratefully I did not succeed.
Taking off that scene was and is stupid.
Just started watching this again in time for the new series
It's not the shows fault it is the people who have problems with mental health issues that ignore the warnings in the beginning
Yes
13 Reason why comes first than elite .... and also talks about day to day situations, and Elite is another thing
*mudering someone and covering It up* rELevAnT tEeN pLOTliNeS
I love this show 🥺💖💘💞💓💗
I can’t wait for season 4 😫
It’s gonna be insane 😳😂
Kinda disrespectful to get that tattoo when you're not battling depression. It isn't about struggling and pulling through, it's about clinical depression which none of them have.
Everyone's talking about 13 Reasons Why while I'm crying because they mentioned Elite. That show is so fucking great!!!!!!
I absolutely loved the series dont think they glamorized any of the subjects on the show. the cast was wonderful!!!!!!!!!
1:47 Hannah doesn't over dose on the legit next image she's holding a razor.
She overdoses in the book
they were comparing the diffrences of book to the movies in the book her suicide is an overdose but in the movie her suicide is the razor/blad
Why I wished to see hanna baker to come and console wen she realises walker wanted to improve himself... And that scene seen by clay
Guys its been 4 years already and i just finished the show yasterday i dont know if there is anyone seeing my comments but i just want ask if everyone doing alright this show made me see the world in a diffrent way and i hope you all doing great with your lifes , this show encourage me to make my dream true i really want live in the usa in the evergreen town the same as the serie
7:53 Which episodie is this.. how i don't remember this scene
It’s from the season 2 trailer, not a scene from an episode.
Please tell me the tracks you played in the background 😍
You started the video wrong. 13RW was out first than elite
They got rid of the scene but fir some reason I still saw the whole scene in 2021
I loved both of these shows..
Whose here from season 4
They absolutely should’ve removed the suicide scene. 13RW, showed KIDS one of the most LETHAL ways to KTS. I work in medicine, & when I 1st watched the scene, I was sick to my stomach. I instantly knew the outcome would not be good, & wouldn’t let my teenage daughter watch the series.
I just started watching this show a few weeks ago.
I'm on S2,E7.
Does this ever make sense ?!
I'm Dylan.....😂
Love how they replaced Sheri with Ani
They didn't lol.
you're complaining about Hannah's death scene while Japan has their own suicide forest...
The whole scene needing to be removed thing, they were explicitly told by experts NOT to do that before they even published the show. The fact that they left it in to begin with was a really bad and fucking stupid decision.
Most of the crying cops you included in were because it was the last scene/episode 🤨
Why are people getting mad because they kept the rape scene and took out the suicide scene, it doesn’t matter it u “can’t handle it” ITS WHAT REALLY HAPPENS! it’s a HORRIBLE thing that happens to so many people but Netflix isn’t going to sugar coat it.
I’m mad that they took out the suicide sense,, hear me out,, it brings the whole message in the show,, this show is about suicide, drug usage, abuse, sexual assault,, etc talking out the part just takes out the whole message of the show
13 RW is good but they dragged it too much Elite has a better story line
Ughh I was just about to write the same thing, this comment needs to be moved up bc it's so tru. When I watching elite I was like this has such more depth then 13rw
@@mwilliams both are very bad but elite is worse. What depth are you talking about? There's literally zero background and a ridiculous story
Elite is terrible and most of the reasons for their actions don't make much sense. How does Lu get away with what they hounded Polo for? Pretty not well thought of
Elite has a very weak storyline actually, it relies too much on visuals and their actors.
So I’m confused was Justin already using when his parents made him and clay get tested?
No I think Clay failed for smoking weed during one of his blackouts. I dont think Justin started using again until after he saw Jessica and Diego
@@laffytaffy6362 it was because of Charlie's 'special' camp cookies clay must have had one
He didn’t start using til after he saw Jess & Diego in study hall . That’s when he was shooting up in his foot
Clay was using drugs and doesn't know it. Like he didn't know that he was bombing cars. And writing that stuff on the school.
@@moothecrybabyxoxo1666 No, he was on a bong at a party lol.
What about juice wrld song
As a former actor on this show, a lot of this is wrong. Like a lot of it. I’m litterally in some of the scenes shown here. Anyone with SPECIFIC question, and want a REAL answer to something. Comment them below and I’ll try to answer as many as I can
What character did you play?
where i come from even middle schoolers have tattoos
i think it's illegal but they still do it
There's no dumber "peer pressure" producers faced than removal of Hannah's suicide "AS FILMED per script" 2 yrs post-production. Let's delete the entire series, wait, its the series in its original entirety (& ALL RAW REALITY) that creates its best, effective deterrent against suicide! If you remove the ugly reality of it, you open up curiosity & kids will explore slitting their wrists in real life, since the show was forced to remove those scenes. Are they blind how dangerous it is to remove the raw violence (intended to detur teen suicide in this manner. Why should anyone's voice ruin Hannah's suicide as 1st filmed!? This critical deterrent scene is for the rest of the world, to show them the pain & how bad it is! W/o this scene, suicide curiosity & attempts likely increase! Its why Drivers Ed classes show graphic deaths resulting from high speed collisions without seat belts! This show's edit is So wrong & more deaths will result because of it!
I live in Iran and still so many girls at my school has tattoos it’s very easy and normal even here , off course it’s not a big deal in America , I mean we don’t even need our parents approval because tattoos are illegal anyway
the suicide scene stopped me from committing ..
monty and bryce are my least favorite on that show their both the same in a way they act the same way and do the same things similarly
In real life Justin Preston is so nice
Monty is one of my favorites after season 3. Don't care what people say, he isn't a completely terrible person. Highly misunderstood. He doesn't know how to show his emotions properly.
@@eggz4657 he's so sweet!
I saw her real death scene...
ill do anything to bring this show back but ill choose the same ppl but different people to direct and do better, im not gonna lie the was kinda a mess
It was a book
Is that even legal laughing my ass off how do they not know like in order to get a tattoo or piercing if you are not 18 or over the age of all you need is your parents consent that you take to a person that is a notary to notarize it it's very simple I mean if your parents or a guardian so you can like have anybody basically be okay with and approve of it sign the paper haven't notarized that's it simple as that there's nothing illegal about it
Who tf is annie???
Oni
Ani
Marveah Blount i know that... i was just stating that he pronounced it wrong
ForePeace i know that.. i was just stating that he pronounced it wrong
hey, its hannah 👩🏿🦰 hannah baker 🐸 someone said 🎰 i got a fat caboose 🌬 so i said 🌋 ♧🍔 𝐛у𝔼 ᶠᵃˡĮᔕнค ☠🍩
Hell no
elitay
They kept the rape though why???
Because they didn't think someone would copy that. Because girls copied Hanna's suicide.
elitEY =))
WTF is a table read? Furnitures don’t have brains or eyes.
you’re so dumb
It's when the cast reads the script together at a table.
I just rewatched it on Netflix and the su!c!de scene is still in there