Actually much more educational than I thought. I don't care for his music, but I can tell he's a great teacher with a good philosophical vantage point.
Matt is the Man! I try n explain this all the time I have be the groove writing on the Head of my snare to remind myself to play with the groove not to !
Respect for Matt but I always thought the figure-8 motion caused the cymbal to stay in the same place thus resulting in you constantly hitting the same areas of the cymbal - rather than spinning it and allowing the energy to disburse. If he'd be willing to answer this: Wouldn't it be better to slightly tilt the cymbals perpendicular to the floor allowing for immediate spin without requiring sweeping strokes?
Its really how hard you hit and the type and quality of cymbals you use. I have never broken a cymbal in 30 years and i am a medium to hard player and i stroke down on the cymbal all the time.
i know what you mean , i had seen this whiping technique before however when it comes to playing fast eight notes like in a punk rock context , it does not work very well at least you have a big cymbal like 19"or 20" because pretty big cymbals have more sustain which means they do not return as fast as smaller cymbals do when you hit them quickcly thats why i use other techniques to play fast eight notes on my cymbals greetings
Those are still pretty slow.. I'm talking about much faster ones. I wonder if this technique still applies. Because it is pretty much impossible to do it at like 280 bpm
I'm not sure which application could be efficient to hit a crash cymbal at 280 bpm at 8th notes.. Unless you're hitting a ride in which case, I don't believe you would need to worry about breaking it haha
the whole swifting motion to hitting a cymbal isnt going to save your cymbals life any more than the hammer approach its really more depending on how hard you hit your cymbal and if you can keep the flow and momentum. if you can keep flow and momentum with the cymbal with a groove your playing then the cymbals life will last just aslong as if you were to use the swifting motion i like to think.
Will Gaines o can't believe people need him to explain this beginners information. that was the first thing I learned when cymbals came into play. that was 30 years ago.
Extra motion is much better than extra muscle tension. This technique is all about control so not sure how this could make you lose all control unless you physically can't move your arm this way
If you hit your cymbals with french grip up and down, that's what breaks cymbals. He's talking about the proper technique to hit your cymbals without breaking them, which is at an angle. There's a way you can do it without exaggerating the motion and using your entire arm, which is french grip going forward (using mostly your wrist, and partially your arm), and american / german grip (also using mostly wrist) going backwards, or vice versa, depending on what's most comfortable for you. There is no loss of control, but it certainly takes some getting used to. I'm not always good about it, but I've certainly seen a large improvement in my cymbal life when I really started using this technique. Another big thing about this technique; it gets your cymbals to full volume much faster than hitting them straight down, especially if you use thick cymbals like myself (I use rides instead of crashes for several reasons). I hope this helps!
Well, if you're breaking you cymbal going using an up down motion and mainly using your wrist, there's your problem. You want to be using down up motion with your fingers. I've been playing for 20 years and only broken one crash. Trust me if you're breaking cymbals often, then it's because of poor technique.
That's the thing; my cymbals stopped breaking once I started using the "sweep" technique. I tend to get into it with my music (metal, mainly), and tend to use my arms on the cymbals, and go straight down on them. That's what breaks my cymbals. I also beat the holy piss out of my entire kit, generally. The sweep technique helps me cut down on this by a long shot. If I use just my fingers to hit the cymbals, and go straight down, they don't get the full shimmer right away, like I need. Given that I use rides, they are rather thick, and the straight down technique makes them swell instead of shimmer, as well as the shock goes right back into my wrist and makes them sore after some time. Going at an angle sends that shock through the cymbal instead, and gets the sound going immediately, because the vibrations are going AROUND the entire cymbal, instead of trying to fight the bell and losing vibrations past the bell. Going straight down only gives you the sound from that small part of the cymbal. I mean, if you're not concerned about getting full volume immediately, and keeping yourself from getting CPS, by all means, do what you're doing. I'm rather impressed that you've only broken one crash in your whole drumming career; I've broken an absurd amount, before I started using the sweep technique. It wouldn't hurt to open your mind to different techniques, though.
his ghost notes get on my nerves. why is everyone on his nutts? he's good, but damn! even he'll tell you that there are thousands of far more advanced drummers than him. I saw a video where Matt said, " the band built my kit." I laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants. I played with a guy who is all over periphery. he always tries to replicate his favorite bands. first it was sevendust, then incubus, stained and now periphery. he's had almost identical equipment as these bands while in their phase. he tried to get me to break my kit down to be just like Matt's small kit. I said hell no. he got butthurt. next thing you know, Matt's "Band built kit" is 98% identical to the kit I've played for 20 years. only difference is K hybrids, pearl masterworks and two drums of smaller diameter. 20" bass and an 8" tom. that's it. don't get me wrong. periphery has good songs about 50% of the time. I play along with several of them. especially the drumless tracks on TH-cam, but my heavens. there's more out there to learn and from whom to learn. be broad. use what you can from everyone musician you come in contact with. not just one.
what he means by the band building his kit is that they choose what they think he needs for the upcoming release/tour so it fits with what the rest of the band want
James Clark I Know what it means. that's why I laughed so hard. periphery is am okay band. they have a few really good songs, but the reality of it is that they're a trend band. people hold them way to high. when recording, they do a ton of completely unnecessary useless crap. trust me. I know how all of their methods go. my ex guitar player is so far up their ass he's trying to mirror everything they do. watching ever single video, same equipment, same writing process, how they tour, etc. I mean everything. it's really pathetic. periphery will never make an impact like, Ozzy, pantera, Metallica, and so on. I predict that their star will burn out in about two years.
The "band building" his kit meaning that his kit changed and formed around Periphery and the sounds they want and need. I don't see the issue with that. It's not like he claims its unique or something.
groundstryker They Do Not Need To Become Starts Dumbass, They Want To Teach Music, And Your Friend Is Influenced And Wants To Be Just Like Them. You Should Respect That, But Hey, You Say They Are An Okay Band, Than Why Listen And Complain?
Actually much more educational than I thought. I don't care for his music, but I can tell he's a great teacher with a good philosophical vantage point.
Practicing good jaw technique.
He breaks 3 cymbals with one swing of a stick
And hes the only man who can do this :D
ON DRUMS IS MATT HALPERN, THE ONLY MAN WHO CAN BREAK 3 CYMBALS IN ONE SWING OF THE STICK
He always looks so excited to play the drums I love it
where is his left leg?
artur wachowski best comment ever. 2:56 it reappears
LOL!!!
He has no left leg. That's kinda rude to point that out tho... LOL
@@nickymooncymbals weird... he must have just had it tucked way tf back there?
And now the Memphis Drum Shop has been haunted. Those ghost notes are so god damn tasty.
As a guitar player, there is a lot to be taken away from this. Matt is such an incredible musician!
The Ringo way....cool video, thanks for sharing.
This video's just saved me so much money
Matt Halpern to Drumeo!
4:10 wingardium leviosa
Matt is the Man! I try n explain this all the time I have be the groove writing on the Head of my snare to remind myself to play with the groove not to !
Great video! Thanks for the help. Unfortunately I cracked two crashes and now I understand why!
Do you have a tutorial on how to tune your snare and toms like yours? If no, please make one, your snare sounds perfect
Ringo Starr also seems to play the hi-hat with this kind of sweeping motion!
Good advice from Matt Halpern, "the only man who can break three cymbals with one swing of the stick"! ;)
Love the cap!
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks
Now that's a very handy tip, saves your arm, obviously, Matt. Thanks so much...cheers!
I want to learn drums now :0
This movement is like painting the air with the symbol of Infinite - ∞ ... or the number eight in horizontal position
nice videos
Respect for Matt but I always thought the figure-8 motion caused the cymbal to stay in the same place thus resulting in you constantly hitting the same areas of the cymbal - rather than spinning it and allowing the energy to disburse. If he'd be willing to answer this: Wouldn't it be better to slightly tilt the cymbals perpendicular to the floor allowing for immediate spin without requiring sweeping strokes?
Its really how hard you hit and the type and quality of cymbals you use. I have never broken a cymbal in 30 years and i am a medium to hard player and i stroke down on the cymbal all the time.
That kit is nice what are they called? And mapex right?
What if you're playing faster 8th notes? I always play 8th notes when I play a 4/4 beat, and I don't know how it's possible to apply this technique.
i know what you mean , i had seen this whiping technique before however when it comes to playing fast eight notes like in a punk rock context , it does not work very well at least you have a big cymbal like 19"or 20" because pretty big cymbals have more sustain which means they do not return as fast as smaller cymbals do when you hit them quickcly thats why i use other techniques to play fast eight notes on my cymbals greetings
Just watch him play at the beginning of the video. It's the same concept except quicker (obviously). It just takes practice like most everything!
Those are still pretty slow.. I'm talking about much faster ones. I wonder if this technique still applies. Because it is pretty much impossible to do it at like 280 bpm
I'm not sure which application could be efficient to hit a crash cymbal at 280 bpm at 8th notes.. Unless you're hitting a ride in which case, I don't believe you would need to worry about breaking it haha
Braden Merod That's true lol.. Thanks!
Anyone else wonder how well Matt Halpern would be able to do this on the aerodrum kit?
there a misconception about the natural mouvement and the activation of shoulder but the slicing mouvement is good
That's one hell of a V neck
could you please release the auto substitles?It may main a lot to me,THX
Well what pedal did he use on this video? Axis?
mapex falcons
Holy hell, that opening groove is somehow harder to watch than it is to listen to. Stunned at the irony here...
I noticed that matt blinks every time he hits a snare...... your welcome
is it just me or do his ghost notes and kick sound similar?
Granted Halpern is right handed but I never see him applying this principle to his left hand😁
coz you cant really play the cymbals on your leading hand side with your arms straight up and down rigidly unless you have cymbals far out.
Matt "The Conductor" Halpern
watching this guy demo stuff (not play) is fucking hilarious
New-classier lugs and logo-badge would make Mapex a way more interesting drum company...
Mapex has really stepped backwards imo.
Never in sound.
Totally agree with JulianFernandez . The logo/badge they have now is terrible. The old logo/ badges were much classier.
the whole swifting motion to hitting a cymbal isnt going to save your cymbals life any more than the hammer approach its really more depending on how hard you hit your cymbal and if you can keep the flow and momentum. if you can keep flow and momentum with the cymbal with a groove your playing then the cymbals life will last just aslong as if you were to use the swifting motion i like to think.
If you just think about it, it makes sense to swing instead of hack at it, it disperses the force and makes the cymbal less likely to break
wrong.
So are you going to explain, or just declare that he's wrong?
no!!!!!!! its wrong!!!!!!
"I like to think"
then later, he says,
"wrong."
"no!!!!!!! its wrong!!!!!!"
Glancing Glow
Mr Matt "i couldn't play "drums" if i can't hit a cymbal every second" Halpern
This was great information, but imho he went on for too long lol
He could have explained all of that just as effectively in half the time haha
Will Gaines o can't believe people need him to explain this beginners information. that was the first thing I learned when cymbals came into play. that was 30 years ago.
groundstryker It was clearly not meant for you.
Talks for 9 minutes about this figure-8 technique. We get it dude.
Swan Ronson every drummer I know, does this technique. I learned it 31 years ago with my first drum lesson.
Swan Ronson he's one of the most talented drummers on the planet he can ramble on about whatever the fuck he wants
Nobody made you watch the whole video. You could have stopped watching when you got the point.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
I swing my sticks on my Cymbals the way I would wave a racetrack flag.
Mm velvety.
Someone turn the snare down holy shit
If there is vibrations going through your hand, you're probably not using proper technique. Js.
WHY IS THE SNARE SO LOUD.
Dont do Karate on your cymbals, do Kung Fu! Be water (fluid) my friends!
I just checked a few of his videos, he never uses that technique. Looks un-natural anyway.
you basically lose all control this technique. A lot of extra motion that is not needed. how about french with a down up motion. No insult to you Matt
Extra motion is much better than extra muscle tension. This technique is all about control so not sure how this could make you lose all control unless you physically can't move your arm this way
If you hit your cymbals with french grip up and down, that's what breaks cymbals. He's talking about the proper technique to hit your cymbals without breaking them, which is at an angle. There's a way you can do it without exaggerating the motion and using your entire arm, which is french grip going forward (using mostly your wrist, and partially your arm), and american / german grip (also using mostly wrist) going backwards, or vice versa, depending on what's most comfortable for you. There is no loss of control, but it certainly takes some getting used to. I'm not always good about it, but I've certainly seen a large improvement in my cymbal life when I really started using this technique. Another big thing about this technique; it gets your cymbals to full volume much faster than hitting them straight down, especially if you use thick cymbals like myself (I use rides instead of crashes for several reasons). I hope this helps!
Well, if you're breaking you cymbal going using an up down motion and mainly using your wrist, there's your problem. You want to be using down up motion with your fingers. I've been playing for 20 years and only broken one crash. Trust me if you're breaking cymbals often, then it's because of poor technique.
That's the thing; my cymbals stopped breaking once I started using the "sweep" technique. I tend to get into it with my music (metal, mainly), and tend to use my arms on the cymbals, and go straight down on them. That's what breaks my cymbals. I also beat the holy piss out of my entire kit, generally. The sweep technique helps me cut down on this by a long shot. If I use just my fingers to hit the cymbals, and go straight down, they don't get the full shimmer right away, like I need. Given that I use rides, they are rather thick, and the straight down technique makes them swell instead of shimmer, as well as the shock goes right back into my wrist and makes them sore after some time. Going at an angle sends that shock through the cymbal instead, and gets the sound going immediately, because the vibrations are going AROUND the entire cymbal, instead of trying to fight the bell and losing vibrations past the bell. Going straight down only gives you the sound from that small part of the cymbal. I mean, if you're not concerned about getting full volume immediately, and keeping yourself from getting CPS, by all means, do what you're doing. I'm rather impressed that you've only broken one crash in your whole drumming career; I've broken an absurd amount, before I started using the sweep technique. It wouldn't hurt to open your mind to different techniques, though.
Example of rigid playing... see the drummer of within the ruins
I thought this was basic knowledge. Are there "drummers" out there that don'tt know this?
groundstryker i was taught a J motion in drum corps. What he is doing is often mistaken as ‘Slicing’ so drummers stay away
why does he make all of these faces when he plays, i dont get it
do you even play drums?
Well,he told that as drummers we have to became music when we play.. He plays djent - becomes djent. We actually facing djent rn guys
much ado about nothing, but did help me sleep.
his ghost notes get on my nerves. why is everyone on his nutts? he's good, but damn! even he'll tell you that there are thousands of far more advanced drummers than him. I saw a video where Matt said, " the band built my kit." I laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants. I played with a guy who is all over periphery. he always tries to replicate his favorite bands. first it was sevendust, then incubus, stained and now periphery. he's had almost identical equipment as these bands while in their phase. he tried to get me to break my kit down to be just like Matt's small kit. I said hell no. he got butthurt. next thing you know, Matt's "Band built kit" is 98% identical to the kit I've played for 20 years. only difference is K hybrids, pearl masterworks and two drums of smaller diameter. 20" bass and an 8" tom. that's it. don't get me wrong. periphery has good songs about 50% of the time. I play along with several of them. especially the drumless tracks on TH-cam, but my heavens. there's more out there to learn and from whom to learn. be broad. use what you can from everyone musician you come in contact with. not just one.
what he means by the band building his kit is that they choose what they think he needs for the upcoming release/tour so it fits with what the rest of the band want
groundstryker Yeah I agree
James Clark
I Know what it means. that's why I laughed so hard. periphery is am okay band. they have a few really good songs, but the reality of it is that they're a trend band. people hold them way to high. when recording, they do a ton of completely unnecessary useless crap. trust me. I know how all of their methods go. my ex guitar player is so far up their ass he's trying to mirror everything they do. watching ever single video, same equipment, same writing process, how they tour, etc. I mean everything. it's really pathetic. periphery will never make an impact like, Ozzy, pantera, Metallica, and so on. I predict that their star will burn out in about two years.
The "band building" his kit meaning that his kit changed and formed around Periphery and the sounds they want and need. I don't see the issue with that. It's not like he claims its unique or something.
groundstryker They Do Not Need To Become Starts Dumbass, They Want To Teach Music, And Your Friend Is Influenced And Wants To Be Just Like Them. You Should Respect That, But Hey, You Say They Are An Okay Band, Than Why Listen And Complain?