C64 vs. ZX Spectrum - 8 games from 1991
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Commodore 64 versus ZX Spectrum games.
8 games released in 1991 are shown running on both machines so you can see how different (or similar) they were.
Thanks for watching and let me know in the comments section below who "wins".
And, of course, see you in the next RetroNoName episode - เกม
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Man alive, Turrican 2 really does look atrocious on the Spec, haha. I completed it back in the day but damn, it really does come home with the, "you tried" award next to the C64 version, which really looks and runs great. They should have just stuck with the base code from the original Turrican on the Spec and optimised the hell out of it. It looked far better.
SWIV plays well on both but I think the bigger, more detailed sprites on the Spec look much better this time. Loved this one back in the day too, Storm did some great work on the Spec, with this, St. Dragon and Rodland.
Chevy Chase seems to run about the same on both formats. They both look okay but I'd give the C64 version the nod overall, even though I actually prefer the Spec sound effects on this one.
Extreme is a clear win for the Spec. The section you've demoed doesn't show it as clearly but the final stage where you play the big robot makes it very apparent. On the Spec you control this screen filling, full colour sprite, whilst in comparison, the C64 version looks flat as a pancake and the sprite is about 2/3 of the size. One of the 48k Spec's showcase titles IMO.
Dizzy is more or less a wash, save for the fact that the C64 version seems to have this elongated pause when opening and closing menus, which I imagine would get rather annoying when playing a Dizzy game haha. CJ I'd give to the C64. At this stage in the Spectrums life, devs were masking clash pretty well, so going with transparent sprites and full colour backgrounds was a baffling choice and makes the whole thing look like a dogs dinner.
Bart I'd call either way. Similar to CJ, the transparent sprites on multicolour backgrounds makes the Spec version look pretty garish but the C64 sprites look particularly blocky and ugly here, to the point that you can't even work out what the aliens look like. I think you could give the C64 version the nod on account of it actually scrolling rather than the Specs per screen approach, but I don't think it had much impact on the gameplay. Yeah, call this one however you want.
Gauntlet 3 is a showcase for how not to use monochrome graphics on the Spec. Unlike SWIV, where the monochrome graphics are pin sharp and the added detail gives the game a really clean look, the backgrounds used here make everything look messy. That said, the sprites are nicer on the Spectrum and you get more detail, such as throwing out spinning axes as opposed to the simple balls of light on the C64. Honestly, I'd say the C64 version is clearly the better looker but I'd have to play them both to call it and to be honest, it doesn't look like much fun on either format, haha.
Great vid as always bud, nobody goes home empty handed with this selection. :)
Turrican 2 doesn't look good on the Spectrum. A game like this doesn't suit the Spectrum generally and plays into the C64 strengths. The fact that the Spectrum could still put out a playable version of it is testimony to the versatility of the computer.
SWIV is incredibly brown looking on the C64. It looks decent on the Spectrum and doesn't seem to be as bad as Slap Fight for the hard to see bullets.
Rod-Land was terrific on both the Spectrum and the C64. However, the Spectrum version is 128k only and monochrome. It was probably fair to assume most Spectrum owners buying new full priced games in 1991 had a +2 or +3. The 48k modes on later games were often stripped back with more multiloads and no music compared to the 128k.
The whole C64 vs Spectrum argument to me is complicated due to the massive price difference between the comptuers on their original launch in the UK and the fact that for the later games you're effectively comparing the 128k Spectrum to the C64.
There is no way my family could have afforded a C64 in 1983. However, I was lucky enough to get a Spectrum 48k. I would expect the C64 generally to be better given that it was double the price originally. The limitations of the Spectrum probably helped creativity as the programmers had to work harder rather than rely on hardware assistance.
From 1987 onwards, the UK price difference between a new Spectrum and a new C64 was minimal.
This was in part because the only new Spectrums you could buy were the Amstrad made 128k +2 or +3 models with the 48k models no longer available new.
These videos showing the later games are interesting as you see the techniques learned on both platforms to get round their limitations.
Programmers using hi-res sprite overlays on the C64 to create prettier games and sprite mulitiplexers etc to help get around sprite limitation.
On the Spectrum, more colour was starting to creep back into games with programmers working around the colour clash issues.
@@paulpatrick885 I agree with every word of that my friend. My heart will always be with the Spec. I try to post the most unbiased analysis I'm capable of in these videos, otherwise what's the point? As you say, if not for Clive's little wonder box, many, many families would have grown up without a home computer, my own included. I'm not sure if people truly appreciate that aspect of it and the genuine debt of gratitude we have for the machine. The 80's were a hard time for a lot of working families, it really is thanks to the Spec that so many kids from modest backgrounds were able to learn the basics of programming.
It is inarguable that the C64 is a more powerful machine, it simply has chips in it to help with scrolling and audio which the Spectrum lacks, but they cranked the speed of that Z80 up as far as they could and a lot of smart developers gave that machine a punch which defies belief. As you say, these comparisons will always be tougher for the Spec because it was the weaker machine but if we're looking at which machine is "the best" then I think the price to performance ratio of the Spec is unmatched. As you say, that advantage eroded somewhat during the 128k era but that extra memory often bought you games with better sprite animations and of course the AY chip and included a tape deck. I honestly don't know if the C64 shipped with the Datassette or not or what the bundles with it included were sold for. Be an interesting comparison.
I've been sharing some of the Spec's recent big games, such as Valley Of Rains, Space Monsters Vs The Hardy and Travel Through Time Vol . I think they truly show the versatility of the machine which as you say, was one of its great strengths. Great to see the legacy continue with the Next.
Yeah, Turrican (& 2) is glorious on the C64. One of the best examples of pushing the hardware. On the Speccy its really not as fast as it should be.
Да ребята, я во все это играл, аж детство вспомнил. У меня был спектрум 48 килобайт. От мафона на кассетах игры. Было прикольно.
The C64's VIC-II graphics chip really made a difference. The scrolling, in most instances, was lovely and smooth. The ZX Spectrum, on the other hand, had to have scrolling routines in the coding. So, a lot of the C64 games have a nice professional sheen, whereas the Speccy games all look home-coded. And that's even before you start discussions about the colour and sound.
Nice to see this. My old speccy was stored away a cupboard by 1991 though!
I never knew there was such a huge difference in graphics between them. That means my machine was awesome :)
Bart Vs the Space Mutants has very nice graphics on the C64. The Spectrum version also looks pretty good as well with the compromise being made with flick screen rather than scrolling.
It's a game that you wanted to like but was never that much fun on any system. I got Bart Vs Space Mutants as a pack in game with the Cartoon Classics Amiga 500 bundle.
Turrican II on the C64 is super fast and playable whilst the Spectrum version tries but looks messy.
The Dizzy games tended to play into the Spectrum's strengths with the more vibrant colour palette and being flick screen rather than scrolling. There is nothing wrong with the C64 versions which don't have any colour clash but the brighter colours on the Spectrum make it pop more.
It's interesting to see these late 8 bit games. There were still some good games coming out on the Spectrum and C64 at a time when most gamers had moved onto the consoles and the 16 computers.
1992 will probably be the last year where a comparison like this can be done with the new game releases drying up in 1993 on both machines.
Truth be told, I was planning to stop this "C64 vs Speccy" comparison in 1991.
I'll check what games were available for both platforms in 1992... maybe I should do one more?
1992 will be easy to do.Try Addams family.
OK I'll do the 1992 part as well. Should be interesting.
@@retrononame Cool, some 1992 games that you could possibly feature are Bonanza Bros.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Robocop 3
The Addams Family
Space Gun
Crystal Kingdom Dizzy
Reckless Rufus
Slicks
Jetsons
Wacky Races
Neighbours
Big releases were definitely drying up in 1992. There are some interesting late licensed games coming out as well as some original Code Masters titles that appeared on both platforms. Most of the new games that came out were on the budget labels - Codemasters, Alternative Software, Hi-Tec Software.
New spectrum games were often quite often 128k only by this point as well. It was probably correctly assumed that any 48k Spectrum owners would either have upgraded to a +2 or moved onto another platform by this point.
Great video mate
Thank you!
Tuve el spectrum y sacaba los colores al cómodore 64. Spectrum 48k era una bestia ademas como un chip de sonido brutal. La comodore parecía una caja de grillos
Some games were better on the Speccy. Elite (my favourite 8 bit game ever) was quite a bit better due to the speccy's faster processor. But as soon as you needed multiple colours and hardware sprites - which most arcade style games back in the mid 80's needed. The C64 won comfortably. Though there were exceptions even to that.
Agreed. C64 was usually better for arcade (side scrolling in particular) games due to the hardware sprites and great sound chip. In 3d however, the CPU speed was the most important thing and those games are usually better on the Speccy.
Of course, this is valid for games that weren't rushed and badly ported from one system to another.
@@retrononame Oh the sound. I still listen to some SID tunes even to this day.
I'm curious about Elite. I'm in the USA, so I never experienced the Spectrum. So I was looking for examples of stuff which the Spectrum was good at, and I thought Elite would be a perfect example. But when I looked at gameplay videos, it didn't really seem like the Spectrum version was much smoother than the C64 version. When I looked at the BBC version, it was definitely a lot smoother (about twice the CPU speed of the C64). Am I missing something?
@@PaulRoneClarke I have a few c64 favourite soundtracks i youtube from time to time, eg. Elite, Shadowfire, Staff of Karnath, and even Kickstart 2.
@@IsaacKuo BBC Elite was the best. I was just comparing C64 to Spectrum. BBC cost more than 2x as much though. £400 vs £179. So far fewer people had BBC. I bought one in 1986 second hand and I never met anyone else who owned one. People bought the Acorn Electron but not the BBC. I was lucky and had Spectrum, C64, Dragon 32, Atari 800 and BBC in 1986 though mist were second hand. Only my Spectrum was bought new.
I prefer c64. But still if I owned a spectrum back in the day I'm sure I would have enjoyed it
Bonitos recuerdos y yo del Spectrum+ 48K🥲
I'm glad the video brought back nice memories.
Thanks for watching!
The Dizzy ports (with Crystal Kingdom being the one exception) to the C64 and CPC were always so half-assed. They were some of Codemasters' best sellers, and all they did was slap a border on the edge and do some colour tweaking. Oh, and using a couple of actual sprites on the C64 versions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Prince of the Yolkfolk was still basically the same code used in the original C64 port of Dizzy, just with some odd tweaks in menu and inventory management.
Was Gauntlet released? I remember having a box for the C64 version and play-testing it but I thought the game only came out on the kixx label ?
Yes Gantlet and Gauntlet 2 were both released on C64 and Spectrum in 1986 and 1987 respectively. Developed by Gremlin - published by US Gold. Also an add on for Gauntlet called "Deeper Dungeons" came out for both as well. I think there was also an add on for G2 though I don;t have that and am not 100% sure. An almost arcade perfect version for the Amiga was my favourite later though.
"Blue elf is about to die..."
"That was a heroic effort"
"Don't shoot the food"
"Red wizard is 'IT'"
Hmmm...Swiv and Gauntlet III, gameplay-wise, are better on the spectrum, they are hectic and that's their point, gfx better on C64. Extreme and Dizzy are wins for the spectrum by a small margin, everything else go to C64, but very good on the speccy too. As a side note, Turrican 2 looks messy on the spectrum, but once you get used to it, it actually plays very well and contains everything the 16-bit versions have.
I'd like to see more of a best-of comparison of both systems, rather than a side-by-side comparison of games of each system, as there are always botched up versions on one of the systems. Turrican 2 on the Speccy is a fine example.
Soothsayer from 2022, speaking in the 1980s: The good news is that you'll have photorealistic, hardware-accelerated graphics. The bad news is that the rest of the world will have gone to hell.
Good one :)
the values of cost reduction show when held against the commodore
loved both these excellent machines. For some the Speccy was just awful for reasons you could target at the C64 in other ways. Both had advantages but it could also often prove that the largely monochrome games of the speccy and the mostly chunky look of the c64 would put many off.
The often C64 is brown opinion is a stupid one of course because it had 16 colours and speccy could manage some clever design for better colour use too this wasn't always monochrome
Truth is it was these differences that allowed for such interesting designs for the games we cherish now and it's not something you see today on such absurdly powerful hardware At this point then I'm surprised more respect isn't automatically given to these special machines with their uniquely identifiable characteristics
I never had a speccy, so what were it's advantages over the C64?
@@IntenseGrid well there were differences. The C64 had custom chips which allowed for sprites and scrolling whereas the Speccy didn't and relied on it's faster cpu to make all that stuff happen usually resulting in an uneven movement most of the time. The C64 had a mostly used blocky resolution comparably but it also didn't display the colour clash issue like the Speccy when colours got to be too close
The C64 had a more advanced sound chip which was a bit like a programmable 3 note synth.
Both had advantages really when compared for their strengths
"Extreme" is probably the only game that looks better and sounds okay on the Specy. Guessing these are all Specy 128k games because of the sound. But the C64 kills it for a computer unchanged since 1982. IMO a 7 Goals to 1 result. I had a 48k Specy.
A really well programmed game on the Speccy can look great and a really poorly programmed game on the C64 can look like crap, but a lot of times it just depends on the style of game. Since the Speccy has a considerably faster processor, "3D" games on the Speccy tend to run smoother even if color clashing is a big issue.
Agreed. Well written.
@Indelible Sin For the most part I'd agree with you, but there are videos on TH-cam that show that in some cases the Spectrum version of a particular game is superior to the C64 version,* usually because it is a game that just works better with a faster processor, like Elite. The Spectrum's CPU was far faster than the C64's after all.
* Like this one: th-cam.com/video/-z3dhe1Dbfc/w-d-xo.html I don't agree with all of them but some people do. "3D" games tend to benefit the most from a faster processor, whereas games that use sprites and a lot of music tend to look and sound better on the C64. But it's all very subjective.
I like the fine Speccy resolution and bright colours, although there's no brown. C64 with Speccy resolution would be the best choice:-).
@@bratrnahoda6241 The C64 has a resolution of 320 x 200 in "hi res" mode and 160 x 200 in multicolor mode, but even in hi res mode each 8 x 8 block can have its own foreground and background color. Each 8 x 8 area can even be multicolor (4 x 8) or hi res (8 x 8). The colors they chose for the C64 are a bit odd. I wish they had put a little more thought into this.
Zx: color and sound out of range error! 🤣 But have a good circle command 🤣
I had a Spectrum The C64 was just for rich people, but we knew it was far superior. Having that, what talented coders have managed to coax out of the spectrum is amazing,
C64 was nothing special. It was sold in SM and toy stores plus it was a late attempt to copy Jay Miner's 8bit architecture (atari 8bit). It was expensive compared to the Spectrum and it did have some modern tricks but as a new user of both machines I prefer Spectrum for its uniqueness . I have both machines but for a weird reason I only fire Spectrum.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 the c64 was the best 8 bit home computer of its time and was indeed something special, but yes it was not a rich man's toy, but a copy of an 8 bit Atari it was not ? What planet are you from
Pure nonsense.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 c64 is a lexus. Zx is a dacia.
@@purplehaze2342just check when computers came to market. Surely the competition reverse engineered them. Development time for C64 and ZX spectrum was month. I most don’t understand why ZX spectrum could not copy more from the C64. Yeah, cannot beat in-house chip fabrication. ULA just is not the same or their partner sucked.
Muito legal essa comparação
Thank you!
I had a spectrum...but I do prefer the c64 graphics... More detailed... Way better
a lot of c64 games play far better than atari st versions!
Yeah, hardware sprites and scrolling makes programming easier - even if they don't really know the hardware that well they can makes things run smoothly. Plus the C64 ones are particularly good.
some games play better on C64, but its more because of programming skills than hardware specifications.
Spellbound Dizzy and Extreme look better in ZX Spectrum
I'm sure Chevy chase car was red on the speccy version, wasn't green, so not sure whats going on here mind, it looks better than that I'm sure, not the best games for showing off the speccys best here I'd say.
If I recall correctly, you can choose a car colour at the start of the game.
@@retrononame Ahh right, its quite a good game on the speccy, wished they'd done Outrun the same as it 😊
@@retrononame hmmm
the days we thought there graphics were good
Well, back then this was a "good graphics" :)
No RTX3090's in 1991. Though plenty of charm in these games IMO - even with blocky graphics with limited palette.
the problem arises when fanboys still think that a specific game on their machine has good graphics lol.
Overall, I’d say that was a tie with the standouts being Turrican II for the C64 and SWIV for the Speccy. Looking forward to the next video! 👍
?! A tie? Wow........ I must have been watching a different video.....
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A tie???? Dont be silly. Speccy fanboy are we?
I was a BBC model B owner so my experience playing on friends machines but I'd say:
C64 = Crap colour palette, slow processor, blocky resolution. Good sprite hardware and excellent sound
Spectum = Bright colours but colour clash. Faster CPU but no hardware sprites. Terrible sound on 48k, better on later models.
Amstrad = Great colour palette. Same CPU as Spectrum running .5Mhz faster. No hardware sprites.
Thought the Amstrad was the best of the three overall (apart from the lazy Spectrum ports). All great machines with great games and duff games though.
NES : can scroll a viewport through a field twice the size. CPU only has to write to one register
Turrican 2 is a easy win on the C64. Speccy looks awful when compared to t1. Its was created with C64 in mind and that shows.
Chevy Chase is howover a win on Spectrum. One of the games im really like the well designed graphics in that game can been when done right (no annoying clashes with backgrounds or like that).
Turrican!!!!! 😀
Not a fair Vs do. C64 v 128k spectrum
Wow, no contest. I would have been very disappointed to have the ZX Spectrum after playing on the C64.
typical c64's fanboy behavior. Its not about which machine was better, but your constant attempt to convince others that only your personal computer game experience on a C64 had value. This is not how childhood experiences work mate.
There are still followers and homebrew communities for all 8bit machines because childhood experiences do not count colors, sprite movement and sound channels.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Actually, I didn't have a C64 growing up. I got a C128 in my mid teens to keep me out of trouble. Sorry you were triggered by my comment, but yeah, I understand what you were saying, even though the C64 was objectively better in many ways, I would have been happy gaming and learning computers on a ZX Spectrum if that is all I and my friends had. I got pretty jealous when a couple of my friends got an Amiga 500. That things was leagues ahead!
Try some speccy Homebrews these days, they are class mate!
The ZX doesn't even have a power switch... 😗😉
I remember never being so disappointed than when I got a spectrum plus2 instead of a c64 as a kid, if you owned a speccy you got the piss ripped out of you
Turrican and CJ are imo better on the C64 but I have to be honest the other games are great on both systems and have their merit.
Turrican better on Spectrum??
@@zbigniewwodecki2628 Thanks lol, i meant the C64 which i've put right.
Veet disappointed with the graphics on the c64 versions of dizzy and swiv. The c64 vic ii was definitely capable of more than that, I think they didn't invest enough in the development.
I'd disagree with the Dizzy games - especially Spellbound where they overlaid a sprite. Looks really nice on a computer with many, many 'brown' games.
The Dizzy ports were interesting in that they used the C64's hires mode, which was basically identical to Spectrum graphics, albeit with the C64's more varied color palette. The big difference is that for moving objects they could use sprites, which meant no color clash since the backgrounds could be drawn to avoid it.
So really, not a bad port. Most C64 games opted for 4 colors per cell with the lowered horizontal resolution "brick" pixels, but the C64 could be just as sharp as the Spectrum if you went with the 2 colors per cell mode.
price in Russia 1989-1993 Zx-10$ C64-3000$
El Commodore era el ordenador que todos queríamos y el Spectrum, el que podíamos comprar 🥲👍
Eso sí solo lo usabas para los juegos , pero si querías programarme tus propios juegos y sentirte dueño de tu máquina no había nada como el Spectrum.
There's no winner there. The C64 had terrible screen resolution, and the Spectrum had vomit colours.
when compared the ZX cant compete in any category except 1. msrp on a c64 back then was 500$ usd vs the ZX at 99$ but you have to assemble it. for most it wasn't a choice of better graphics and sound, it was a choice of having a computer or not.
And most of the $ for commodore were for keyboard and case. Something which is not even shown here.
Are you seriously comparing a computer with a bunch of graphics modes, sprites and a music processor to a computer without all that stuff?
Spectrum gets a win with Extreme (Dizzy slightly nicer in the speccy) but failed massively on all the others, by this point colour clashing and childish colours were just not acceptable. it's aged to badly while the c64 still feeling modern at this point and was able to just about keep up with the times, and we'll see it continuing to do so (even today)
SWIV is better on the speccy, it looks like SWIV to begin with and it plays like a charm. Sound effects are better too... Chevy chase is also better, yeah it is monochrome but runs better and the road actually moves to the left and right instead of being stuck in the middle and have your car move to the left and right of the screen. Only c64 and tiger electronics treated racing games that badly...
@@jimkrom i never liked SWIV on either machine, but both versions here are just has bad or as good as each other i guess. So wrong about Chevy Chase.. the size of the car is so big ion the spectrum and it's just much fun, the road does move left and right on the c64 version. So don't lie. sure the game is poor anyway but it plays really well on the c64 for a budget racer,
@@MephProduction the road on c64 is pinned to the left and right sides if the screen and only turns the top part left and right. If you watch closely, when the car leaves the middle of it, it moves towards the left and right of the screen instead of the car always being in the middle of the screen and the road moving accordingly, as it should be for any racer which likes keeping the 3d perspective. So, yeah, just like tiger electronics. Lame!!!
@@MephProduction also the comment was not about wether you like SWIV or not, it was about whether SWIV is better on the speccy which it is. Your liking it or not is irrelevant, but since you mentioned it, it is a very good game in every system it came out
Yeah, SWIV is a clear win on the Spec. I played the game a lot back in the day and the C64 version, whilst being snappy looks like a turbo charged Atari 2600 game by comparison, it's a really poor showing for the machine, which we both know can do a lot better. The Speccy was keeping up just fine bud and you should really check some of the modern Spec games, it's hosting some fantastic games which play to the machines strengths, just like the C64 is. You don't need to talk down one to cheer on the other bud, just celebrate what you love.
Turrican II is awful on the spectrum, now is that actually down to the spectrum or just a really really bad port. I mean I am a c64 supporter all the way and I think in general most people would agree the c64 was better, but this is a truly bad looking game.
there is simply no comparison, the ZX looks like a calculator
I just bought one. It really looks nice. I prefer it from the bread-bin but I would choose the C64c. All of course look cheap and ugly when compared to the atari XL line...even the XE line looks like a toy.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 I would say the C64 looks and feels the best and is overall the best 8bit home computer. I had the C model, the latest one. It was an upgrade from a ZX48, which was tiny, kind of cute, but not very capable. I don't recall that the ZX had good games to play, except for manic miner, jet set willy and tanks. Mind you the C64, while beeing miles ahead of the zx, was also very bad at arcade ports, I was an arcade machine gamer, spent my childhood playing video games on arcade machines mostly, cause the zx and c64 were just too underspeced to give you the gaming experience. If you play Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, Double Dragon, Pang, Punisher, Cowboys and Indians....there are no worthy alternatives on the C64..
@@Corsa15DT Carrier Command, Starion, Elite, Starglider, Starglider 2, Chase HQ, Enduro Racer, Exolon, ... hundreds more where the Spectrum kicked C64 backside.
@@davidspencer7254 almost all c64 platform games look better than the st ports, doesn't mean its better
@@davidspencer7254 elite though?
Dizzy for the speccie. Rest.....c64 win
Poor Spectrum. Looks like total shit compared to C64.
Brain damaged colours
it always funny to see c64 fanboys criticize the colors of all things on other platforms....lol
Commodore 64 color palette aged the worst. It's washed up and it's crayon browny. But it has better sound,music and lot smoother scrolling and screen refresh rate and Turrican is definitely better in c64 while it's just lisergic in zx spectrum. The other games are all a matter of personal tastes: ZX spectrum has lot better sprite and resolution definition while c64 is blocky and this blockiness seems to affect also the precision of commands and sprite collision but at the end the gameplay and the pacing of games seems just the same in both formats and his is the most important factor in a fair videogame comparison.
The C64 colour palette is far more flexible and is what makes demos/games looks so much more impressive. It only looks bad on crappy Spectrum ports that were originally designed for the simple garish colours of the Speccy - like Extreme and pretty much every Dizzy game.
@@jandoor2068 C64 had colors. ZX Spectrum had just tricks to hide or reduce the colour clash in sprites.C64 was lot more powerful. And had lot of marvellous exclusives...and it could had easily pixel perfect ported (with its HiRes Mode resolution) whatever Zx Spectrum exclusive game (as it happened now with all the Ultimate games in those last years:Atic Atac, Underwurlde, Sabre Wulf, Knight Lore, Gunfright, Pentagram,Alien8).But they hardly did it.That's why they are two incomparable platforms. Both of them have very good games that the other doesn't.
@@sambas9257 Not true. If it would be that easy to port modern ZX Spectrum games to C64, then for example why does C64 port of Aliens Neoplasma need accelerator to play?
@@timoheinonen9570 I didn't reference modern ZX Spectrum games. They can be ported too but modern ZX Spectrum games are very different from 80s because contemporary programmers have access to accurate platform knowledge,tricks, optimization tools that weren't there 40 years ago. Aliens Neoplasma is a russian 2019 ZX Spectrum 128k exclusive. It's not for Spectrum 48k
@@sambas9257 True, but in 1991 128k Spectrum would also have been the specification to aim for.
This just goes to show that the c64 is a far superior machine in every single way possible.. Spectrum was cheap and very nasty.. C64 all day long for me