How To Fix Fallen Undermount Sink Under Granite Countertop.
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- How To Repair Fallen undermount Sink on granite or quartz. Fix sink in Kitchen or bathroom. #Handyman
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Thank you so much taking the time to make this video! I'm a single mom and the kitchen sink sunk this morning into the cabinet below- handyman was scared to touch it and wanted me to call a plumber. That's when i found you!! It's all fixed and back in its original place and I feel on top of the world!
Thanks for watching and posting. Glad everything worked out 💪.
Doing this repair over the weekend, a lot of lazy contractors out there. Hard finding someone who does it right the first time anymore. Thanks for posting this.
Our sink dropped the second time, initially, it happened about 7 months ago, the video I watched then made me remove the food disposal unit and all pipes from under the sink, remove the whole sink apply adhesive and hold it with clamps for 24 hours. it was a major pain to remove everything and then put it all back. you made it so simple and I followed every step, I was able to fix it in just a couple of hours (time includes my visit to Home Depot). Thanks for recording it just what I needed. Stay blessed.
@@sahaarsalar That’s awesome news! Glad my video helped you out. Appreciate you taking the time to post your experience for viewers to see.
Thank you for the video! It helped me to fix my sinking sink. Instead of cutting the support lumber, I used a shorter precut wood and used a car jack to hold it up. Worked great as well
Car jack! That’s a wonderful idea. Great job and thanks for taking the time to post your experience.
Car jack! What a brilliant idea!
@Julliancui car jack worked like a charm....
Hey Vinny, Our kitchen sink dropped just like the one you videoed. It was only installed 7 years ago, our last house had one installed in 2007 and it is still fine. Thanks for your video it helped with supplies needed. Our sink had no clips so it was resting on the drain pipes, but I cut 2X4’s and put in place like yours were. I’m HC so this will be a full day job, so I’ll get the longer dry time epoxy. Keep helping us out buddy.
Hey Pete! Appreciate the feedback and for you sharing you’re experience. Happy New Year!
I wish I knew you when you needed it done I would have done it for free just for the experience
Hey Vinny, I have a question: What size did you cut your 2x4 to.
OH!! Thank you for this! My moms house got a remodel 14-15 years ago and I'm telling you the idiots didn't seat the sink properly. This is so straightforward and it makes sense. I will do this project this coming week. You just made a difficult situation so much easier!!
Thanks Kerri for watching! Appreciate the kind words. Best of luck on your install 👍
This is what my mom is going through and her townhome is 6 years old. They didn’t have the mounting clips on it either. This is prob the 8th major thing that’s gone wrong with her kitchen since buying the townhome. Don’t buy a cookie cutter new build. They’re crap.
Thank you so much. The cabinet and sink installers did not use any clips or mounts to secure the sink. It fell all the way down to the floor of the cabinet. When they return, I will watch them like a hawk. Now I know what is needed. Thank you.
You’re very welcome! I’m glad my video was able to help you. Thanks for taking the time to watch and post a comment. Vinny
Thank you *SO* very much for this video! I wasn’t sure whether or not the entire sink would have to be removed in order to clean the sealant off, and I am so happy to see that it does not! I will be doing this tomorrow. So glad I found your video. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and watching. Best of luck tomorrow. You got this 👍
I was worried the whole sink needed to come out! So glad it doesn't!
Thanks Ryan for your video. I recently started to work with my brother doing handyman work. I personally have a sink that after watching your video, just realized never had the brackets installed(maybe not enoug space?), instead, (you won’t believe it), they only attached to the side walls of the cabinet, two pieces of 2x4 to hold the sink from falling. Now it is completely loose just like your video. no silicone or any type of epoxy to keep it glued.
Keep up the good work, I believe soon I will try to do it myself the proper way. there is water damage to the bottom wood and the sink bottom is peeling, I will get a new one.
Blessings.
Luis Barillas
Rockledge, FL
Glad to hear your thinking about a handyman business. So much work out here. Use wood shims for brackets if you can’t get regular ones in. I have seen it both ways. Best of luck to you and thanks for taking the time to view and comment.
-Vinny
Thank you for this video. Our sink dropped about 1.2-2 inches. My husband will not fix, and this video helps me feel confident I can easily complete the task.
You can even use a car jack to lift sink. Just put a piece of wood under garbage disposal to prevent damage. I need to do a video showing different methods. You got this! Thanks for watching.
Excellent documentation of the plan, supplies, and process.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video, it was just what we needed right now, as our kitchen sink sunk similarly to the one on your video. Since it's Christmas time, no handymen are available. So we'll do it ourselves, following your instructions.
Thanks for making this video. The fact that you show what you need to do is extremely helpful. I will be sharing this video with my family so we can finally fix the kitchen sink.
I like the confidence! You got this and be sure to keep us updated on final results. Thanks for watching Ariel.
I just did one using you're instructions. The contractor used pl as braquette 😂
Thank you for the video, looks easy to follow. my husband and I will be fixing our sink this weekend. God Bless
Thanks for watching and posting. God bless you as well. 🙏
Perfect video! Straight to the point.
Thanks Harold!
God bless you for this video. I was cracking up though because apparently that marble and sink must be popular 😂😂😂. My eyes widen up cause at first I was like....is that my house 😂😂😂😂. You made it simple and easy! Thanks ❤Peace
Thanks for posting and watching. Yeah, I’m sure that was a little creepy 😂
Awesome Video vinny i needed this one!
Exactly what I needed. Just like our sink!! Thank you
Glad my channel was useful. Best of luck on your install.
When leaving it to sit for the 24 hours, should you avoid using the sink at all?
I would just so you don’t damage the integrity of silicone seal.
Thank you for the video. I just had a question, if the clips are broken, how do you go about fixing them?
You can order some off of Amazon. In the meantime you can use wood shims and add epoxy to hold them to granite and sink.
Thank you so much! I got a quote and it wasn't that it was too high... it's just that the plumber wanted to cut my sink. Which I thought was a bit much.
Nice video!! Sink fell on me while doing the dishes today…Wify had a good laugh! Clean up all the mess inspected the “down fall” n notices no clips but was held in by cardboards and adhesive as clips! 🤯….I realign the pipe and prop
It up with some 2x6s. At the moment the sink is useable but will need to fix it. LoL story of my life!!😂
Sorry man. Rough day for you I’m sure. Best of luck on your install. Thanks for watching!
@@vinnythehandyman LoL all good I had worst, do appreciate the video. 👍
Awesome video and TY for sharing. I see now this will be my next wknd project 👍🏾
Thanks for watching Tony!
So I did a faucet replacement on my Mom's sink about a year ago and asked her if everything was drip-free...long story short the sink was epoxied, however there is a ¾" gap around about ⅓ of the sink...None of the 6 bolts ('clips' in your video) 3 on either side were tightened AT ALL. At least they were there, to shed some light on the issue. And the install was by a "professional" smh Thanks for the video, great help!
Thanks for your input brother. Appreciate you watching and supporting my channel. Hopefully you don’t have any future issues.
Thank you I wasn’t sure what silicone to use. ❤
Thanks for watching!
I have the same exact countertop the same sink the same problem you mixed the silicone and the epoxy its still in place?
Yes , everything is still in place. I believe it’s been three years.
Thanks for this video, but curious as to why you only used epoxy on that one section?
Hey Vinny, thanks for this vid! Just repaired my sink back up cuz of you. Not sure how it came off so soon, the ppl installed it less than a year ago. Luckily they did install something to catch it with so it didn’t come crashing down. Ended up cutting too long of a 2x4 so I propped it up with my framed diploma on a car jack lmao got to work with what you have in the moment.
That’s wonderful news! Congratulations on your install 👍 I like the car jack idea 💡
GEt JB Weld that is two tubes and dispenses at once.
Thanks for the video I’ve been putting this off since we bought our house 6yrs ago
Very patient man! Hopefully you can knock it out now. Best of luck 🤞
Thanks for the video! 😊
It looks
Like you just loosened the clips, correct? And you didn’t remove any plumbing? thanks.
The sink was already loose when I got to the home. However, i don’t think it will be a problem if you loosen clips a little. No, I did not detach any plumbing.
What about epoxy vrs construction adhesive ? I hear epoxy can make the removal process impossible.
Honestly, both will work.I feel like epoxy holds better overtime. Usually when people do kitchen remodeling the sink and countertops get replaced so it doesn’t matter.
so the epoxy fully hardens, then silicone gets applied in big blobs and sits 24 hours (I imagine it fully sets) then put wood supports (do you push the sink up at all?) and leave them sort of wedged in for ever? what does the epoxy even do? is it because silicon won't stick to stainless?
Hi Kevin! In theory the clips that are attached with epoxy holds the sink in place. The epoxy that I applied just adds to more strength from falling again in the future. The wood supports are applied to keep the epic and silicone seal nice and tight. It’s like putting putting a gasket on a header of a car engine if that makes sense. Yes, wait 24 hours for silicone to dry. This give it a water proof seal and helps sink stick with another seal. Silicone is create a nice bond. It’s been almost 3 years since I did the work and it still holds. Once dry remove wood. Hope this helps clarify. Good luck
I was waiting for someone to point this out. I believe that after silicone treatment you push sink against granite to form the bond THEN wait 24hrs for seal for mature while both sides continue to be forced together. The video makes it look like wait 24 hrs then Force the two sides together.
You put the epoxy in then put the silicone on top of the epoxy. Doesn’t that interfere with the holding of the epoxy and silicone?
Epoxy 1st . Epoxy dries up in 15 minutes. Yes, in theory you can wait 4 hours etc then silicone. It’s up to you. Thanks for watching.
I can freaking do this!! 🎉Doable for a noob DIY!!! LFGooo
Great job!
May i know whats the purpose for placing epoxy? Sorry new to household repairs. Hope to get a respond soon
It creates bonding strength to hold the weight of the sink. Sinks are heavy once you add the weight of garbage disposal. The silicone is to waterproof.
@@vinnythehandyman - Hi Vinny! did you add epoxy to the entire perimeter or just near the kitchen faucets? It looks like you added silicone around the whole edge. - Thanks from Canada, getting ready to make this fix as mine dropped 1/4 inch as well this week!
@loquet245 the entire perimeter. If the sink is down hit all of it.
Thanks fpr the video but?? where is the materials list?
Hey vinny, I have a question for you: What size did you cut your 2x4 to.
Hello, honestly I can’t remember exact length. You will be fine if you leave an extra 1/2” to 1” on cut. Just measure outer edge of sink to wood base. Also a small car jack under garbage disposal works too. Just protect disposal with a piece of wood.
Great video, Just curious did you apply epoxy to entire sink or just the fallen part. My sink is falling off from one side and other side is still intact. Pls let me know that will be great help brother.🙏
Hi Aman! Yes, I applied epoxy to the entire sink because I was able to. I would only apply epoxy to the fallen area for your job.However, use silicone to give a complete seal around the entire sink to give it a good seal. Thanks for watching!
Hi Vinny, I had the same question on the epoxy. It’s not clear in your video. Thanks for clarifying. You may want to add a note on the video stating that.
@@johnnylowe1634 Appreciate the feedback back John. Thanks for watching!
My sink just fell and this looks pretty easy to do! Should the epoxy go only on certain areas or all around? Thank you for sharing!
All around if you’re able to.
My sink dropped about a couple millimeters - it has clips underneath. would just redoing the sealant between the counter-top and sink from inside the sink be enough?
There’s a good chance it might hold with the silicone. Just make sure you put enough silicone in the gaps. You can also use a small car jack using a piece of 2x4 and apply light pressure under garbage disposal to give a nice tight seal and lift sink. Leave for 24hours. If that doesn’t work then go back to expoxy and silicone like video.
So I have a single heavy porcelain undermount sink that is clearly falling. I am going to get a couple 3rd hands to help support it because part of it is not detached yet. In your video it looked similar.. part of it wasn't detached. Did you loosen the 4 corner brackets to allow it to drop a bit all around and then scrape everything off? I couldn't tell if you did that in this or just put the epoxy and the silicone sealer in the area where it was dropping but left the rest alone? I found some JBWeld two part (but single syringe) 5020 psi.
The clips were still holding in place. The sink fell enough where I could still acct. I did not adjust brackets. I did tighten after I was done. If you work alone maybe use a car jack under disposal with a niece of wood to stabilize. If you can add epoxy everywhere than great. The silicone seal will help add support.
@@vinnythehandyman I started scraping out the old stuff.. all but one corner I think I got to with my putty knife. Still need to run exacto.. but mine isn't nearly as low as this video. I suspect I'll have to find the brackets and loosen them up. I did order a couple 3d hand stands that I put under there to help support it has it has garbage disposal and pipes attached so didnt want it to come crashing down and break those.
@@b3owu1f right on man. Sounds like you’re on the right track. These sink suck!
this is eerily identical to my setup. ha ha... btw...did you only use the epoxy on the back of the sink?????
I put it everywhere! 😂
@@vinnythehandyman sweet! thanks for the info. btw, I'm trying to remove the old epoxy and it's a freakin bear. any ideas on how to loosen it better?
Use razor blade. Not sure if paint thinner will work but you can try.
@@vinnythehandyman the razor blade did a really good job...didn't completely remove it, but it removed about 90%
@TV-ob1if cool glad to hear it went well. 🤞
this might be a silly question, but would putting the silicone over the epoxy "block" the epoxy from sticking as hard, in a way? Or does the epoxy go farther back, and the silicone near the edge to form that seal, and thus avoid that overlap? (also - i noticed you put the epoxy on the granite and the silicone on the sink - is that on purpose, or does it not matter?) - signed, a person who has Never touched epoxy in her life (OH final question - can I use the sink in that 24 hr window as long as the wood remains propping it up?)
Hi Julia,
Adding the epoxy first is the way to go. You don’t have to add on granite and sink. I just did it for better bonding. The epoxy will dry fast. If epoxy leaked out too much in front after pressure is applied just wipe off.
I wouldn’t use sink for 24hours once you apply the silicone because it takes longer to dry. If you get silicone every where you can wipe down with paint thinner and a rag.
Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Best way to support is a board on top and ratchet straps thru the drain holes with a board underneath
7:50 "Now that we've applied the epoxy where it's needed..." Stupid question: How do you know where it's needed?
Just add epoxy where anything is exposed to a gap. This will help with added support . Definitely silicone the entire sink to give it a nice seal. This also allows extra bonding strength.
Thank you brother, this was super helpful.
Thank you for the feedback!
thanks dude ! that was very helpful.
Hey - just wanted to ask - what are your thoughts on Undermount sink clips? I've seen this being recommended for undermount sinks - but most say that it should be silicone (not caulk, as it is often confused between the 2) - and silicone alone left properly to dry with the wood to hold it in place.
Thanks in advance!
Clips offer extra support. If you don’t have clips then you can use wood shims and apply epoxy.
- silicone is water and mold proof. Caulking will turn black and mold.
-yes, silicone can offer a nice seal however, you don’t want separation in a few years.
@@vinnythehandyman - thank you for the quick response!
I need to tackle my sink tomoro, it hasn't got clips either and the entire thing has fallen. I braced it temporarily as it is resting on the pipes. My question is this-on the underneath counter there is a good amount of silicon (I presume) still attached do I need to scrape all that off as well? I haven't noticed anyone else scraping away anything other than old caulking. Thanks
Scrape silicone and start from scratch. Use epoxy and wood wedges as clamps to hold and then silicone. Hope this helps. Keep us posted on progress.
@@vinnythehandyman thank you for being good enough to get back to me. I greatly appreciate it.
You’re welcome! Have a great week 👍
Thanks‼️‼️🗣️ Great Video. I have to handle this today.
You got this 💪. Thanks for watching!
Hero.
Thank you!
Nice job. How much do those repairs go for ?
Hi Jose, this job was down the street so I only charged 125.00. Depending how far I drive this job can range from 125.00 to 400. Thanks for watching man!
@@vinnythehandyman I would pay you $400 tomorrow to do this if you were in Vegas, even if only down the street!
@@SpiritRaider Funny you mentioned Vegas. I lived there for eight years doing construction or else I would. Go on next door app and see if there is a local handyman or fabricator to knock out. You might be surprised on how many people will reach out.
What if it was not installed with clips? What are the options?
Hi Beth! If you don’t have clips add epoxy around sink and support with 2x4’s like video. After it cures for 24 hours then take the wood shims I showed in video and epoxy them to under sink and granite. I would add a minimum of 6 if possible. Be very generous with epoxy using shims. That will give it added support.
So Epoxy and caulking go together?
Do Not Mix. Once epoxy dries, then use clear silicone around inside of sink.
@@vinnythehandymanHey so Im confused by this comment. Wait the 5 minutes for the epoxy to dry then add the caulking? Then push it back into place and let hold for 24 hours-ish? I assumed you'd want to push back into place before the epoxy dries like within 5 mins?
@@MIDuffy yes, push back into place before epoxy dries. Then wait 5 minutes before you caulk. Sorry for any confusion.
Hi I am also so confused with that part since you showed in the video that you put the epoxy and caulking together before pushing it up? So apply the caulking in the outer surface of the sink to seal?
This just happened to my kitchen sink as well. I couldn't believe the whole sink was being held up by nothing but some epoxy and wooden "clips." I'm kinda skeptical that if I just epoxy it again that it will hold...
loved this. exactly what I need to do/have done
Thanks Rick for watching. Best of luck on your install.
@@vinnythehandyman much love my brother. If you lived near the Woodbridge Virginia area, i would hire you to come over and do mine. 😀
Lol you got this bud!! I’m out of Denver or else I would. Happy Holidays brother.
How long are the support blocks?
Can’t remember exactly, but if I had to guess it would be around 35-36”.
quick Q for anyone.. why epoxy is needed? What if I apply silicon directly?
Thank you! 😉👍
Your welcome! Thanks for the support.
Thanks so much if I need your help can I call you?
Thanks for the video
Mine just fell. There's no epoxy or silicone to clean off and only two clips, so I guess Home Depot figured to make my repair job easier for me to do! Yay. SMH.
What if there are no clips? Can the epoxy hold the sink by itself?
Yes if applied around the entire sink. However, I would use small pieces of wood and glue them to bottom of granite and sink to hold for extra insurance. Once the epoxy dries, then use clear silicone around sink.
@@vinnythehandymanHi, do you have a video or demo of how to apply the small pieces of wood underneath the sink?
@traycevlogs1580 Hi Tracy! Unfortunately I do not. Hopefully I can still help.
For starters do exactly what I said in the video. Once sink is still supported by wood post or even a car jack then use wood wedges from Home Depot. Apply epoxy to underside of granite and sink. Be very liberal with epoxy and add every six to eight inches to give strength. Let dry and then remove jack or wood post. Let me know how it Turns out.
If you use a small car jack, put a piece of wood under garbage disposal so you don’t break it and then pump jack to underside of wood. That will give you good equal lift and support.
@@vinnythehandyman thank you so much for the further guidance and reply! 🫶🏼
The only thing more stupid than an under-mount sink is putting one in an RV. Thank you for your help!
Oh wow! That’s going to be a tight spot to work around. Best of luck 🤞 thanks for watching.
I definitely learned something today! Thank you so much.
Thanks Heather for watching and posting 🙏
I’m fixing the kitchen sink in our apartment. It wasn’t installed correctly and it collapsed. They temporarily fixed it after hours but never permanently fixed it. I’ve tried to get them to finish the job but they said that’s all they’re doing. So our under mounted sink had several layers of silicone just caked on while a piece of wood and 2 screws is all that holds up a big sink.
I’m using epoxy to attach brackets under the counter to properly hold the sink up.
Ashley, sounds like a big cleanup job now! Sorry to hear your experiences. Definitely epoxy brackets to stay in place. You got this! Thanks for watching and posting your thoughts.
@@vinnythehandyman job complete! It looks great! So proud of myself. I don’t want to do that again but it really wasn’t difficult. Except removing all the silicone they had it everywhere…
@@ashleyzuras8006 Great to here Ashley! Glad you gained confidence to tackle the next job! Thanks for updating all of us.
My handyman used a jack instead of a 2 by 4!
@@mandrakeelmago540 Jack probably works better honestly.
I take old school counter tops all day
We are getting ready to tackle a home that has thin countertops as well as very thin cabinets. It had no clips holding it up and was only held by silicone. There are 2 1×2 s holding it up now. I think a platform like a table should be built but my friend wants to screw boards to the cabinet on one side that will be seen. The other side is a dishwasher. . Yes there is plumbing but I think there is enough room to do the platform under the cabinet...any ideaa? BTW this is track homes and 4 other homes are having the same ussue
Why eopxy? To act as like a glue?
Why not add epoxy all around the entire sink instead of just one spot? Wouldn't that hold better?
Why didn't you completely remove it and put it back on?
You can but I had enough clearance to leave on. The plumbing kept it up so that was helpful working alone. But yes, I could of taken it off but then the garbage disposal and all plumbing would be removed because of weight. Thanks for watching.
good video, very good information! maybe a better choice of background music.
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Do you now understand all the steps you did improperly?
I believe it’s one way that’s simple for most homeowners to accomplish. I’m sure there are better options with better tool set ups. Remember, a professional who originally installed didn’t do a good job. Currently Sink is still up two years later. Please add a better option in comments to help homeowners with more options. Thank you!
@@vinnythehandyman Gladly! My under hung sink installed by "professionals" , has fallen twice. After researching, I have determined that for this application, one of several types of mechanical support methods must be used, supplemented by a silicone sealed perimeter on perfectly cleaned bonding surfaces. Unfortunately we have to be our own advocates in this environment of unqualified "professionals". My advice in any project is to use TH-cam, and other sources to have a personal understanding of the proper tools and procedures.
Excellent points! When I come across another sink issue I would like to provide another option or just a whole new video going over 3 options to use. I need a studio 😂. This seems to be a overwhelming problem lately in the trades. Thanks for your response as this forum is to help homeowners anyway possible.
u did not put glue all the way around and not much glue and you talked too much at the beginning im luta here