How Hard Is Cheap Knife Steel? Hardness Testing Spyderco Tenacious 8cr13mov

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  • @OUTDOORS55
    @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Let me know what knives and steel you want to see tested! Also please read down below⬇️
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    Edit: This is not a new idea on my end. Lots of people have been testing production knife hardness for ages. I believe in continued testing. For the same reason you wouldn’t dyno a 2012 corvette once and call it good. The 2022 corvette needs to be tested as-well. The more data points the better!
    Follow me on Instagram @alexgarland_outdoors55

    • @jakass
      @jakass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheap Amazon knives that boast some good steel could be interesting to just see how they compare to vetted brands... But owning a bunch of cheap knives really isn't worth adding to the collection

    • @8thsinner
      @8thsinner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea for a series, spyderco seki zdp-189 please, as I have that one, I'm predicting it coming in at about 62/63, I very much doubt they have any going out at the 64 or higher that spyderco has claimed but never know.
      Other requests, official SAK's, leathermans, and gerbers etc, should bring in some views and interest.

    • @stevenrobertson6656
      @stevenrobertson6656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Z-Hunter. Who knows what steel..if it is steel.

    • @tombrown4683
      @tombrown4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevenrobertson6656 LOL !

    • @fapmasina100
      @fapmasina100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ontario rat1 (aus 8)
      Buck 110 (440c)
      ???

  • @therogers4432
    @therogers4432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Another reason why this is THE best knife channel on YT 😁👍
    No shilling for manufacturers, no ads for crappy video-games, no BS, just good wholesome observations based on Alex's first-hand experience...
    Keep-up the great work buddy, and we'll keep watching 😊

    • @iSharpen
      @iSharpen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed.

  • @NeevesKnives
    @NeevesKnives 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Spyderco hrc and heat treatment in the past 2 years seems to have gotten really good compared to the older stuff

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Glad to hear that👍 Interestingly though, this knife is from 2010. 🙂

    • @Outpost_76
      @Outpost_76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm with Jared, some Spyderco models have always been good, those being tool steels. The stainless has had some dips and the 20CV and 204P from them has always been soft.

    • @stevenlachance8576
      @stevenlachance8576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Outpost_76 I’ve never understood how m390, 204 and 20CV are analogues yet the acceptable HRC for 20CV and 204p is lower.

    • @Outpost_76
      @Outpost_76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevenlachance8576 that's just it, acceptable hrc for 20CV and 204P is the same as M390. The problem is almost all can't seem to get 20CV or 204P to a decent hardness in production blades. I'm not positive why and a great example would be the first run Dlt 20CV Manix coming close to 61 in the hardest I've seen tested yet the M390 Manix regularly hit 61.5 to 62.5. Same company less than a year apart. If ypu add in the PM2 runs the difference in 20CV and M390 gets huge, as much as 4.5 points of hardness between some examples.

    • @Deeznutz002
      @Deeznutz002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First I ever tested was the Khukuri, can't say I've been disappointed with Seki city. Results may very for other people.

  • @Pancakes479
    @Pancakes479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'm curious what any Civivi knife would test. I got one of their Elementum button locks, and I'm pretty happy with it for the price.

    • @thehardnesschannel1605
      @thehardnesschannel1605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’ll be releasing that video soon..

    • @snafuequals
      @snafuequals 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They actually have good heat treats

    • @yasirkadhim2940
      @yasirkadhim2940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch @The Hardness Channel's video he actually posted it ^

  • @gladeshunter8796
    @gladeshunter8796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Buck’s US 420 HC vs Buck’s Chinese 420 HC . Want to see if the Bos heat treat makes a difference. Buck Pursuit and the Buck Selkirk would be good models to compare .

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have a buck on the say right now but that idea definitely peaks my interest 👍

    • @Outpost_76
      @Outpost_76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did a video on this a couple years ago and it's a big difference in wear resistance and hardness.

    • @johnny0454
      @johnny0454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, the old U.S. Schrade 7-OT (in both the high carbon and the stainless versions) vs. the new Chinese Schrade 7OT stainless blade.

  • @mab1120
    @mab1120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The tenacious and resilience are two of my favorite “cheap” knives. Spyderco’s 8cr13mov sharpens up like a light saber.

    • @chimchu3232
      @chimchu3232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. Easy to sharpen, and holds a working edge for plenty long enough for me.

  • @b80-s9i
    @b80-s9i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome to see someone finally do this kinda vid series & format! I've never seen anyone test Spyderco's S35VN, so if that's in the realm of possibility I'd much appreciate it!👍👍👍

  • @herberar
    @herberar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!!! That's why I'm so satisfied with my Cara Cara 2!!! . Eight years of daily use at work sites and still going strong. Thanks a lot.
    Never seen before on TH-cam!!!! Cheers!!!

  • @NBNracing
    @NBNracing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Alex, this will be a good series. I would like to see similar steels from major makers tested. I would be nice to shoot a primer video for people who aren’t familiar with how the testing is performed. I used to heat treat steels for aircraft repairs, but other folks may not understand the process.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought about that and maybe i will. I think most people who are buying knives now know what hrc is. If I get a bunch of questions about it than i probably will.👍

    • @nickparf3688
      @nickparf3688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OUTDOORS55 maybe not the principle, but the protocol for testing and the way the machine works would be nice!
      Thanks a lot for your work

    • @MicahFunk
      @MicahFunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a VERY general understanding of heat treating but would like to know more about it.

  • @johnr1350
    @johnr1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have dozens of knives, from low and high end production folders to custom hand made fixed blades. The one knife that is ALWAYS with me though is the Victorinox Classic SD. This is the smallest and least expensive of the line with a blade, file, scissors, toothpick and teasers. It is small, but can keep a scalpel sharp edge fairly easily. My other knives rotate based on where I am going, what I’m wearing or my mood. This little red wonder is always consistent though. And yes, I usually have two knives on me at any given time. I’m under no illusion that someone could skin a boar with the Victorinox. I’d be interested in seeing that tested. Bonus is that it’s cheap!

    • @tikofthetoka5650
      @tikofthetoka5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm with you on that one. Mine is the Victorinox Signature. It's so nice to have a hidden pen at all times. I believe TH-cam propagates knife arrogance towards small blades that don't withstand being beaten to death.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a comment on youtube from a hunter skinning with the smallest victorinox blade once. Personally I carry and dislike that blade but like the Swiss Lite package

    • @christopherlaborde1670
      @christopherlaborde1670 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Breaking: “Victorinox issues M390 knife blade in their iconic little knife and sells 50,000 knives in a day”
      It will never happen because they are stubborn Swiss, but one can dream.
      (:

    • @RealBoiJare
      @RealBoiJare 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I keep a Classic SD on my car keychain. One cool thing is that you can take it on airplanes too. Maybe not in America though

  • @sweetdrahthaar7951
    @sweetdrahthaar7951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ll be looking forward to lots of hardness testing. Thanks👍🏻

  • @oceanwaves83
    @oceanwaves83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SO GLAD you started this series!

  • @JohnDoe-zb7dz
    @JohnDoe-zb7dz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to this series. Glad you will be posting more frequent.

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like these hardness testers. We had one about three times that size in our machine shop at work.
    They don't lie!

  • @daveg7516
    @daveg7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work as a local butcher and it’s nice to see someone who understands it’s not all super expensive just the right know how and this guy knows how 😂👍☺️

  • @Enigma-Sapiens
    @Enigma-Sapiens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back, I'm glad to see you making videos again!

  • @andremoore810
    @andremoore810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm hooked. Love the concept, this is information a new knife maker, like myself, will find useful an entire 20+ year career.

  • @lordscan1047
    @lordscan1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this open a new line of possibilities for your videos, not just for knives, but for test pieces aswell, like 1095 water quenched, 1095 oil quenched, and so on. looking forward for this new series.

  • @CAG-1227
    @CAG-1227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your work and research! This is definitely one of the best channels I’ve seen on youtube. Thanks ❤

  • @970SHR
    @970SHR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good to see you back!! It’ll be interesting to see the testing on knives made by you with common steels, which are the ones used by most of us hobby knife makers. Keep up the good work my friend! 👍🏼

  • @RedBeardOps
    @RedBeardOps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That hardness tester is legit!

  • @gottagoMS123
    @gottagoMS123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you test ganzo's knives? I really like them and they work really well for 20-30 bucks.
    Requests:
    my daily carry, ganzo adimanti skimen, supposed D2 steel. $30
    Another one thats really nice is ganzo fh921. $25
    Last but not least, one of their spyderco clone(?) F759M which you can find for $15 or maybe even less.
    These knives all take a very good edge when I sharpen them. Thank you for all your sharpening tutorials BTW... I really learnt a lot about sharpening from you

  • @standardcitizen5948
    @standardcitizen5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now this is an interesting series. I would love to see the results of Spyderco's K390 steel.

    • @stroppystuff641
      @stroppystuff641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tested my delica in k390 and was hitting 64-64.5hrc.

  • @philliplabuschagne5508
    @philliplabuschagne5508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would be interesting to see how the old traditional knifes like the old slipjoints in 420 Stainless Steel compare.

  • @joshuabriggs7114
    @joshuabriggs7114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that the videos will be short and sweet! Great data points!

  • @stephenkeefer3436
    @stephenkeefer3436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi bro!! Welcome sight to see you again here. Looks like a great series you’ve started.

  • @MrSharK97
    @MrSharK97 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This series are great please continue doing them and test all the knifes you have. That would be great 👍
    Appreciate the effort 👊

  • @chriswebb3018
    @chriswebb3018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, the test I hoped to see on a channel one day. Happened to look up hardness testing on pocket knives and found you. Definitely subbed

  • @zzzBEASTMANzzz
    @zzzBEASTMANzzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife... It's enormous and glorious

  • @claycarroll294
    @claycarroll294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not really a specific knife but I'd like to see victorinox knives, and I wonder if the steel is consistent with the blade and the other tools .

  • @BrandonGuise
    @BrandonGuise 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you're back at it! I'm glad you seem to have a lot of your audience too!

  • @carlgray4556
    @carlgray4556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video idea, I think it would be interesting to see differences for same steel, say S30V or S35VN, from different brands. (Buck, Cold Steel, Benchmade, Spyderco, etc...) looking forward to seeing the rest of the series. 👍

  • @gronza4451
    @gronza4451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see any cheaper knife with 8cr13mov and compare there is a lot of difference or not.
    In my country (Czech republic) tenacious costs about 60$ and cheaper 8cr13mov can be around 30$

  • @erikcourtney1834
    @erikcourtney1834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d like to see some cheap kitchen knifes done.
    Also compare hardness files to an accurate hrc tester. Never seen this properly done

  • @guyfromnj
    @guyfromnj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea for a video series. I’m anxious to see the next one.

  • @bert2530
    @bert2530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, subscribed!!
    Wil see how this Resilience turns out.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the support 🙂

  • @Greg_Chock
    @Greg_Chock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you're settled enough that you can make regular content, though I still enjoyed your longform road trip. That was some beautiful scenery.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! It was nice out there!

  • @littlemountain6413
    @littlemountain6413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're up for it, I would be interested to see a Hinderer test with the current controversy and drama around their hardness levels.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Id have to find someone who would be willing to send one in that hasn’t been tested yet..Im not sure id purchase one, just not my style. I dont know enough about the situation to comment either way.🙂

  • @Qui-Dad-Jinn
    @Qui-Dad-Jinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know (or used to) the head QC guy at Spyderco here in Colorado. Good dude. Knows his stuff.

  • @m00seknucklejohnson45
    @m00seknucklejohnson45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh this is gonna be a very informative series. I’d like to see all of benchmade’s premium blade steels tested and then we cross reference that info with other brands blade steels. Heck man you can do so many different things with this data

  • @Ten80pete
    @Ten80pete 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Civivi suggestions would be an interesting one. The one I had in mind (and yes, I did just buy one of these) is the Benchmade Freek. Or any CPM - M4 knife, really. I'm just impressed by the edge retention and ease of sharpening for M4; seems to strike a good balance.

  • @raymondwilliams2609
    @raymondwilliams2609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video, my man. I will be looking forward to scrutinising your playlist with much interest. Thank you for your time and effort. ❤️✌️🖖👋🇬🇧

  • @DaroffApFire
    @DaroffApFire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely looking forward to these tests! I'd also love a new video on the house remodel. I'm sure you've done LOTS of work since that video you posted.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, LOTS of work lol! Ill do a tour once I am In and settled🙂

  • @SRVandDtrouble
    @SRVandDtrouble 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just the series we need. Thanks for investing in the channel and bringing us the information we want lol. Especially after the Hinderer and Transparent Knives debacle! If you could test Hinderer and Transparent that would be great.

  • @mikeshell4214
    @mikeshell4214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good presentation. Fair test. Good information.

  • @exPEdiAZ
    @exPEdiAZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would be interesting to see the results of testing like 10 different examples of the same knives

  • @arrowheadguys7637
    @arrowheadguys7637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be keeping an eye on these. Good stuff.

  • @levissketchbook8983
    @levissketchbook8983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just realized you are making videos again. Glad you are back.

  • @stephenkeefer3436
    @stephenkeefer3436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey here’s an idea. After you’ve run the gamut of knives, maybe do some random hardness tests of different things. ie: circular saw blades, sawzall, stuff a lot of beginners try to use to make knives.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Already in the works😉

    • @stephenkeefer3436
      @stephenkeefer3436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OUTDOORS55 you stay on point !! Very good!
      Thanks again for sharing your vids.

  • @DanGoodShotHD
    @DanGoodShotHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see more videos to come!

  • @SpaceDave3000
    @SpaceDave3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Off the top of my head, S45VN and Bohler D2. I'd be interested to see where SAK steel stands as well. I'm going to guess around 56.

    • @CNYKnifeNerd
      @CNYKnifeNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's quite a generous guess

    • @SpaceDave3000
      @SpaceDave3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CNYKnifeNerd Yeah, probably closer to 52 but I think I've seen it tested before someplace.

  • @My_Bow_L.Y.F
    @My_Bow_L.Y.F 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see alot more of this hrc testing on knives.

  • @mikev4979
    @mikev4979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Looking forward to this series!

  • @originalbigtee
    @originalbigtee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome idea! For a point of reference, tungsten carbide is around 85hrc and a drill bit is around 65hrc

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will be testing drill bits too😉

    • @CNYKnifeNerd
      @CNYKnifeNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saying "a drill bit" is no different than saying "a knife"
      Knives run from 45 to over 70. Id bet a ton of money that the drill bit gap is nearly the same.
      Also, the Rockwell C scale technically maxes out at 70, but that's a conversation for another day...

    • @originalbigtee
      @originalbigtee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CNYKnifeNerd there's always one...

  • @joshuathrasher9581
    @joshuathrasher9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother, Swordbreaker, broke my Cold Steel Gurka Kukri on an almond tree.
    I'd love for you to tell us how and why it broke.
    It's a pretty clean snap, it did not bend lol.

  • @olaf_industries
    @olaf_industries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I'm glad u upload so much atm =)
    Love your vids =)

  • @craigholman4365
    @craigholman4365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nedfoss gentleman's folder is the best bang in the sub $30 range! Do that one, yes!

  • @andrewhernandez9674
    @andrewhernandez9674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite an interesting video, sir. I know little about steel composition and what not, and this still intriguing.

  • @breoganlopez3943
    @breoganlopez3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this will be a very interesting set of videos!!!!!!🖒🖒🖒

  • @ekirenrut
    @ekirenrut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this as a concept! 👍

  • @ryanyoung3890
    @ryanyoung3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it coming! Excited to see more of this! I would love to see any of Benchmade’s S30v or 20CV
    I would also like basically any other Spyderco Steels, k390, REX45, s30V, 20CV, S90V, M4 etc.

  • @Saltpork305
    @Saltpork305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a bit old but I would love to see how Buck's 420HC steel stands up to more modern knives.

  • @momish392
    @momish392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    3 videos in 3 weeks?? I've enjoyed them all.
    I'd love to see tests on "SUPER" steels. s30, xhp, s90, s110, maxamet, and the like.
    Man I wish I had a hardness tester, I made a knife in 10v and I wish I knew what the hardness was. Atleast I know it cuts well! 😂

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They are expensive and HEAVY, and take up a lot of room...Seeing the numbers are interesting though. I may be open to knives being sent in for test in the future once i get through with moving.🙂

    • @tombrown4683
      @tombrown4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OUTDOORS55 I hope so !!

    • @mitchhifi9192
      @mitchhifi9192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OUTDOORS55 I'd send in s90v bugout and maxamet para 3 for a test

    • @dandildarious4849
      @dandildarious4849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OUTDOORS55 I have a really beat up Rockstead that you could test.

  • @gordonstevenson535
    @gordonstevenson535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your Endura ZDP189 has my interest.

  • @tombrown4683
    @tombrown4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been wanting someone to do this. Even fantasized that I might try to start a channel doing this but figured they would be Hella expensive & my budget is not comparable with that kinda thing.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is expensive haha! Someone had to do it eventually 👍

  • @mikeking6686
    @mikeking6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOOD JOB, AND WHO'S BUYIN A HINDERER WITHOUT A DIVOT, SPYDER CO'S CRU-WEAR, AND REX-45, THANKS

  • @joeparreman4859
    @joeparreman4859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey, I'd really like to see a Spyderco in spy-27. I have a para 3 lw in spy-27 but I have a feeling that mine is a bit soft. I know it differs between individual knives and maybe it is the steel itself. but it would be interesting to see the results!

    • @Outpost_76
      @Outpost_76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've tested 2 , a Manix 2 at 61 rc and a Native 5 at 61.2 rc. Perhaps the Para 3 was softer, BBB tested his I just don't remember where I saw his test of it.

    • @Outpost_76
      @Outpost_76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @خالد المالكي I have the same tester but I am going to reach out to him and see if he wants any samples to test.

  • @sleazy1drache
    @sleazy1drache 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to the testing of the knives you made. Like the "accidenral" one from a file

  • @lesamourai777
    @lesamourai777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I'm secretly hoping people will mail you their expensive custom/semi-custom knives to test their hardness.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome idea!

  • @pal6636
    @pal6636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a brilliant idea for content 💡

  • @KnifeChatswithTobias
    @KnifeChatswithTobias 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this. I’ll be looking for future tests.

  • @dragos2023
    @dragos2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love your idea about HRC testing. KA-BAR Dozier-AUS 8 steel is something that I hope you will want to test. And also, if possible, a Mora fixed blade with 12C27 stainless steel.

  • @hubbertfarnsworth4338
    @hubbertfarnsworth4338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool vid. Could you add a video about how this hardness tester works in your playlist ? I think it would be interesting to know a little bit more precisely what these numbers means and how they're obtainded.

  • @jez76
    @jez76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great idea, nice investment Alex.
    Apart from what you have seemingly already started, consistence; a comparison of same blade steel from same manufacturer, I'd like to see:
    - Same steel, different manufacturers and price ranges. How's Benchmades S30V compared to Spydercos and Civivi?
    - Super Steels
    - "A to Z": From a scam knife like Huusk to budgets like Mora stainless, and Carbon to expensive Super steel and Ceramic.
    Keep up the good work! Great to have you "back"!

  • @krystiandobrzanski9745
    @krystiandobrzanski9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see some kind of dollar store or even worse (if it even exists) knife in that kind of test to see if it is a real mild, unhardened steel. The worse knife the better in that case. Keep up the good work!

    • @tikofthetoka5650
      @tikofthetoka5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dollar Tree does sell a $1.25 SAK style knife. It's so bad, the best thing I could do is watch it get ran over in the street. The test may just press a hole through the blade.

    • @krystiandobrzanski9745
      @krystiandobrzanski9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tikofthetoka5650 This is precisely what I would like to see, what would really happen, but very good point:) It would be interesting if the HRC tester would bend the blade or something like that!

  • @garethbaus5471
    @garethbaus5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once tested an opinel, and the listed hardness on the website was dead on. Opinel could probably improve their knives if they were left slightly harder, but they are really good at getting a consistent result.

  • @nickulvatten1039
    @nickulvatten1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea for a video series! I would like to see the Bahco 2444 knife tested.
    They are ultra cheap, are actually comfortable and light weight come nasty sharp out of the factory hold a decent edge.The official information is they are 50-55 HRC,I have read that they are a re-branded Mora Companion.
    Thank you!

  • @dingogreens7472
    @dingogreens7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, really nice to see you are back! i believe these chinese steels aren´t that bad ( spyderco shows it) , i think the problem is a bad heat treatment protocol used by most of these chinese manufacturers.
    there are some chinese steels that resemble the sandvik series of knife steels, so it should be possible to heat treat them to same performance. 6cr13 is almost same composition like aebl, 7cr13 is like 13c27, 9cr13 is like 19c27 and the 8cr13 is in between them, or like a 440b with reduced chromium. so with the right heat treatment they should perform mostly equal to sandvik steels.
    i am really exited to see your next vid, if the heat treatment is consatnt or not. a test between jaktkit knife in 99cr18mov and cheap ganzo 9cr18 knife would also be nice i could imagine.

  • @waylonmartin4783
    @waylonmartin4783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id like to see some crkt knives tested, specifically id like to see the pilar. I used to carry one for edc but it always seemed to wear quickly. Thanks for the awesome content!

  • @Vena23
    @Vena23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. Maybe somehone else has already said that, but I would likes to suggest you a tip. Try to use a smaller base of the instrument: the smaller the better (like a cylinder of diametro = 7 mm). This will decrease the error caused by the curvature of the blade (you may get maybe 1-2 more HRC points). Of course It is more difficult to do (and more Dangerous for the durometer itself) because the blade (the sample) may slip out. Infact, where I work (big machanical industry in Italy, Quality Department) we have an accessory that you mount over the point, that Will go in contact with the sample and stabilize It during the measurament.
    Nice video.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely👍👍 I am currently looking for one. As you know any deflection in a warped piece will give errors. Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @cwsmith17
    @cwsmith17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for these tests

  • @butchcassidy3373
    @butchcassidy3373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a Spyderco fan but good steel it appears.
    Love your idea for this series of videos.
    Test Civivi knives.
    Lot of us own them.

  • @DL-ij7tf
    @DL-ij7tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Mora Garberg in Stainless vs Carbon. A lot of discussion about the toughness of 14C28N vs 1095 floats around and one of the key components is what HRC they're hardened to. I've seen people claim 14C28N is 5 times tougher than 1095, a claim I find ridiculous

  • @Gman1024
    @Gman1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series, can't wait to see them all.
    ALL THE KNIVES IN THE LAND!
    Kidding, whatever you've got is fine with me, I'm curious about treatments from one manufacturer to another.

  • @hayworth.handmade
    @hayworth.handmade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an awesome idea because some factory knives have good steel but don't perform as expected and others with fairly budget steels perform really well. My picks are the Civivi Elementum in S35VN, Kizer Mini Domin in N690, and the Boker Mini Strike auto in D2.

  • @Toledosteal
    @Toledosteal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tease!!!!!!!! But glad to see you back on youtube guy!

  • @YanDoroshenko
    @YanDoroshenko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job!
    It would be really cool to see Spyderco's S90V, S110V and ZDP-189. And a Bugout in S90V.

  • @jeffcanyafixiy
    @jeffcanyafixiy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any Hinderer!!!
    Sorry, to soon??? 🤣😜
    GREAT idea, this will be a cool series.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Id rather not buy one, but if I find someone who has one ill test it. I have a good lawyer🙂

  • @javiersp01
    @javiersp01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alex !!

  • @binyominfranks2910
    @binyominfranks2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see any victorinox basic knife, they’re literally everywhere, I can’t imagine anyone who likes knives not owning one

  • @oren616
    @oren616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    recommendation - product that tests hardness - TTC 6 Piece Hardness Tester File Set.
    Good video , thanks for sharing.

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big league tester! All that's missing in the description is where you got it. Looking forward to your collection getting their tests. ✌

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a grizzly branded tester. Made in china, but unfortunately I am not aware of anyone else who makes them. Unless you buy an old one but after looking for years I finally had to just buy new.

  • @woodcrafter7361
    @woodcrafter7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just finished 3 lawns to be greeted by this video, glad I got notifications on! Could you try testing a a kershaw blur tanto? ~$80 This has been my everyday carry for 5 years and my dad's everyday carry for like 12years. His knife is significantly shorter from losing the tip and sharpening lol. Thankyou in advance if you do.!

  • @OldPackMule
    @OldPackMule 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be very interested to see the difference between manufacturers. Like S30V from Benchmade, Spyderco, maybe Buck. Can't wait'

  • @jtscustomcutlery317
    @jtscustomcutlery317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! Love this video please do some Benchmade m390

  • @TheMelon2456
    @TheMelon2456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see the hrc on some of your knives especially the difference between some of the knives you used the oven and parks oil against the mini forge,bbq and canola oil I think it would be be really awsome to have an idea what sort of numbers the new knife makers can achieve if you still have those knives that is

  • @UnlikelyZebra
    @UnlikelyZebra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see any N690 steel tested, particularly from Fox knives if you can. I love that steel and think it's under utilized

  • @ramonade_knives
    @ramonade_knives 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video man ! Even with a very good heat treat, I don't fancy 8CR13Mov much. However, I love this steel with a serrated blade like on the Tenacious. For how hard it is (for this given steel), the teeth hold a very good edge for a good time, and do not break easy. I've only seen deformation at the moment, no chips.

  • @jeffjenness7651
    @jeffjenness7651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been something I've been thinking has been needed for a very long time! The most critical part of any knife outside of design and materials is the heat treatment of the blade, which I think must be done well for the knife to perform well. Many manufacturers do a very poor job. I think we are seeing better HT over the past few years, but I would like to know which manufacturer is doing it right and doing it consistently. Of course, the latter will require some sort of statistical sampling which would be expensive, however, you might be able to test a dozen different steels from a manufacturer to see how they do across their line of products. I look forward to this new project. Maybe we could even do some edge testing after knowing the hardness of some blades. There seems to me that this is the next step in examining performance of blades by determining the quality of manufacturing of the blade itself. I will add that hardness is not the end in determining the quality since there are many recipes for heat treating, still this will be interesting.

    • @jeffjenness7651
      @jeffjenness7651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe I should disassemble some from my collection to send to you in order to boost your results. Are you open to a box of blades showing up in the mail to add to your testing? I would disassemble to reduce shipping and also reduce your time in doing so.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might be up to knives being sent in in the future. Im kinda backed up with them at this point. Once i am through with what i have I might "open the books" so to speak. Thanks for the offer! Appreciate it!