The Sins of the Devil Rays

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  • @HaydenSimmons44
    @HaydenSimmons44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +396

    I went to a Devil Rays game in 2007 against the Padres. We bought nosebleed seats for like 10 dollars. The staff told us we could sit behind the dugout. There were maybe 100 people there. The Devil Rays lost 9-0. It was sad. But a fond memory.

    • @joshnunez5265
      @joshnunez5265 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Pretty cool that the staff let you sit where you want though! 9-0 is brutal though, man those were the days 😭😭

    • @UpperCumberlandGamers
      @UpperCumberlandGamers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@joshnunez5265yeah, usually in MLB games if there's a seat below you that is free and unreserved, you can take it

    • @Paul-nx3qz
      @Paul-nx3qz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No you didn’t 😂

    • @HaydenSimmons44
      @HaydenSimmons44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Paul-nx3qz Okay... Not really sure what you mean

    • @CompWin7Helper
      @CompWin7Helper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I believe you, i used to do the same. They don’t allow us to sit in nose bleeds anymore it’s so that the stadium looks more full than it really is. Everyone would just buy the nose bleeds seats for 10 bucks. Now they force u to pay at least 50 bucks for the surrounding seats

  • @christophermsimon9956
    @christophermsimon9956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought I was watching too much Drake Kendrick stuff and I was hallucinating lmao w the 6:16 in the background

  • @djembe_
    @djembe_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Props for turning down better help. Made me subscribe.

  • @tweezerjam
    @tweezerjam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For some reason I thought Jose Canseco was Tony Saunders. Made sense to me that he blew out his arm pitching. 😂

  • @Robertoduran1106
    @Robertoduran1106 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2006 Marlins salary cap was the highlight of the video. How on earth

  • @camerongrant8344
    @camerongrant8344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grand on you for saying no to BetterHelp. They do seem like a bad company.

  • @kensuter57
    @kensuter57 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +302

    Man ik it’s hard to turn it down, but major respect for not following along with the ad. Better help seems sketchy at best

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      I'm lucky that I don't NEED that money, because in other circumstances, I def would've taken it. They offer a lot, and that's why so many TH-camrs have taken their ad reads this past year, even after the controversy.
      It really was a situation where the more I looked into them, the worse I felt about supporting them.

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@AndThatsBaseball They offer a lot because they need to offer a lot to silence people's conscious.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AndThatsBaseballI’ve heard some people in comment sections say that the company is hard to cancel if you sign up for it.

    • @savage751
      @savage751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I mean there a lot of "sketchy" companies out there that advertise..ultimately it comes down to the each individual person to do their own research and decide if doing something is in their own interest

    • @wafersmash338
      @wafersmash338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AndThatsBaseball I'll be honest, I didn't know they were a sketchy company. Thanks for your integrity

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    One thing I will say for the Devil Rays:
    The hats and helmets in the late 90’s and early 2000’s were pretty cool.

    • @bbryant9455
      @bbryant9455 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Came here just for this 💯🥶

  • @rayge7838
    @rayge7838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    Nash, Dukes, Franco....the Rays need to have some training on how to stay away from underage girls for their stars 😭😭😭

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Criminal organization

    • @PeterEBI
      @PeterEBI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know 😂

    • @matthewcostanza2674
      @matthewcostanza2674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well...no training in the world would have made Dukes become a better person.

  • @TheSolidSnakeOil
    @TheSolidSnakeOil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I still have a hard time watching video of Tony Saunders. Breaking his pitching arm had to be complete hell but happening again is a just kill me moment.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I have used that clip probably near half a dozen times now in my videos. It's gruesome, but it's so fascinating to me.

  • @charliereffettstormchasing
    @charliereffettstormchasing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    Huge respect cancelling sponsorship with betterhelp

    • @miwo7408
      @miwo7408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      whats wrong with betterhelp?

    • @jonathandalton34
      @jonathandalton34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a well known scam​. Most of the people they employ are not licensed@miwo7408

    • @Anime2077ttv
      @Anime2077ttv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@miwo7408they try to force Christianity on you eventually & their therapists aren’t truly that qualified.

    • @lukedoesbutter
      @lukedoesbutter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Anime2077ttvHundreds of dollars for a month of therapy is ridiculous. Also they have been credibly accused of selling user data.

    • @chrisdeleon3351
      @chrisdeleon3351 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Anime2077ttvi never heard of the pushing christianity stuff that’s wild

  • @legochickenguy4938
    @legochickenguy4938 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Trading away a 5 WAR player for a manager should be brought up more often in the many discussions about the worst trades of all time

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I think managers were slightly more valuable at the time, but trading your very good starting CF for a manager instead of for actual prospects is hilarious. They barely got anything for the few good players they had in the first 5 years, then Friedman built a pennant winner by trading Toby Hall and Aubrey Huff.

  • @aron4117
    @aron4117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    See the mildly grainy mid 00's Devil Ray's footage brings me back to my childhood in the Bay area.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I tried finding as much high-quality footage as possible, but the grainy stuff will always be part of that era's aesthetic

    • @Nick_Valentine2702
      @Nick_Valentine2702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndThatsBaseballit’s nostalgic

    • @r4v4g3r
      @r4v4g3r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was 8 years old watching Orioles games with my parents in MD, so I saw lots of Devil Rays games too. Nostalgic 😊

    • @tinypoolmodelshipyard
      @tinypoolmodelshipyard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @TheOGSticks11
    @TheOGSticks11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Let's not forget one the teams top scouts quit when they told him they 'Had no use for a player' like Albert Pujols in '99/00. The scout quit.

    • @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
      @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      YIKES..

    • @ALTAIR2
      @ALTAIR2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's like when the Astros scout quit because the team didn't draft Derek Jeter

    • @TheOGSticks11
      @TheOGSticks11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ALTAIR2 that's also a very frustrating hindsight.

    • @tinypoolmodelshipyard
      @tinypoolmodelshipyard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheOGSticks11 not really, the most overhyped player in mlb history.

    • @michaelschneider5938
      @michaelschneider5938 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ALTAIR2I remember this story... The scout was Hal Newhouser who won a couple of MVPs so he knew baseball talent when he saw it.
      They ended up taking Phil Nevin #1 and the guy he told them to take went on to be one of the top 150 players in the history of baseball

  • @TheGreatGhost1
    @TheGreatGhost1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    As a Red Sox fan, I always loved the Rays uniform designs. The old rays uniform colors and they’re original name the Tampa bay devil rays will always be badass and my favorite. Tbh I Hope they win a World Series one day.

    • @AnimefanDeCaro
      @AnimefanDeCaro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree and I’m also a Red Sox fan as well. I’m pretty sure the rays win the World Series. And when it comes to playoffs like American League I rather root for rays more then Yankees Yuck.

    • @tillitsdone
      @tillitsdone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The issue I have with them is that circus tent they call a ballpark. Batted balls hitting crap hanging from the roof. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

    • @Jlaps941
      @Jlaps941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Rangers finally pulled it off last year so nothing is impossible 😂

    • @BK_718
      @BK_718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mets fan here and I agree 💯 their OG uniforms are fire 🔥

  • @WhatHappenedtoBaseball
    @WhatHappenedtoBaseball 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I don't know how, but this was the first time it clicked for me that the Marlins won a World Series before the Devil Rays debuted

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      When I researched the original video, it shocked me that the DBacks won 100 in their second season. These expansion teams all had pathways to instant success.

    • @nyratk1
      @nyratk1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AndThatsBaseball Even the Rockies made the playoffs after 2 years

  • @ron4255
    @ron4255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    As a Mariners fan i will always appreciate Nintendo’s owner for buying the team. Dude never even saw a Mariners game live. Hated flying but wanted to thank the city for being so supportive.

    • @Sly_Maverick_31
      @Sly_Maverick_31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell yeah, let's go M's!

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hiroshi Yammauchi

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So that must be the reason why the Mariners are popular in Japan?

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SportsFan838 in a way, its actually brought the idea of bringing Japanese & Korean ball players to the majors

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LSTNSCRFN That's why I could see multiple series of teams playing in East Asia in the future

  • @moronsaltable
    @moronsaltable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Josh Hamilton went #1 overall by Tampa Bay
    Kyle Snyder went #7 overall by Royals
    Tampa Bay pitching coach=Kyle Snyder

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    After seeing the whole video, I definitely would say that this one turned out a lot better than the older video.
    Way more engaging.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've learned a lot since then

  • @kyleOWillFixIt
    @kyleOWillFixIt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Having a chronically low payroll definitely makes things hard on any franchise. But constantly wasting picks and development time on guys with serious off-field issues that destroy their careers definitely doesn't help. At least they got over that problem. Oh wait...

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The low payroll is part of the problem. It’s tough to be picky about talent when you’re playing with the small stack. Turning a blind eye to character concerns, injury concerns, etc. is how they field good teams, but also why they have these cases more than most.

  • @zhife310
    @zhife310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    the thing that makes it the hardest to be a ray fan is the fact that you can’t get attached to players because they more than likely will be traded or won’t renew their contracts in less than 5 years.the one long term contract we give out happened to like children too

    • @kenw2225
      @kenw2225 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Marlins too. 1997 was the best moment of my life probably before turning 10yo. But they tore it down within months. I wasnt even a fan anymore in 2003, but did cheer for them vs yankees in ws. Rays need new stadium location and $ will improve via attendance

    • @BlackslooklikeHarambe
      @BlackslooklikeHarambe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You guys like them young in Florida apparently 😂

  • @ILoveMisty1985
    @ILoveMisty1985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The Devil Rays may have been terrible, but they sure seemed to have the number of one of the greatest pitchers out there. Randy Johnson has managed an ERA below 4.50 against 29 of the 30 Major League teams, the one exception being the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. His 5.43 ERA against the Devil Rays is more than a run higher than the team against whom he had the next highest ERA, and his 3-5 record against Tampa Bay is worse than against any other team. And it's not like the he faced them when they had their exorcism, his last start again the Devil Rays came in 2006 when they went 61-101. It's one of the most enduring mysteries in my years of studying the Big Unit's career.
    Anyways, thanks for the fun video.

    • @gaggledweasel2579
      @gaggledweasel2579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting

    • @Realwaltersobchak
      @Realwaltersobchak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Low number of starts towards the end of his career.. I don’t have to look at the stats to understand that.

    • @derpy.1
      @derpy.1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm….could be the baseball gods giving them some type of leeway, I have a feeling once they have new ownership or a solid first direction sometime down the road, it will be there thing to take out HOF dominant pitchers in weird situations.
      Or it might be the shrooms talking right now, and it’s just a coincidence idk.

  • @Samitien
    @Samitien 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Idk what else to say, could you talk about how Milwaukee went from a punching bag and missing the playoffs for 26 straight years to being a model organization that has found ways to win. As a Brewers fan I'd appreciate it. Thanks, loved the vid!

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve LOVED some of the brewers teams in my lifetime, so I’d be open to this type of video.

  • @8stormy5
    @8stormy5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I didn't even know Tampa Bay had a baseball team until I'd started getting into watching baseball in 2019.
    I played little league in Orlando...

  • @foramoreperfectamerica8490
    @foramoreperfectamerica8490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The Rays have been my AL team since their inception when I was 10. I liked the bright colors of their og unis lol

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The OG unis are so nice. I bought the Wade Boggs Mitchell & Ness BP jersey cuz I was looking at them so much while editing this.

  • @MrLatrunks14
    @MrLatrunks14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    They are basically the little bit more Successful version of Oakland A's Money ball. But they can never win the ring.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      If they keep making the playoffs at the rate they've done so in the last 15 years, they're bound to win some eventually

    • @MillerArant
      @MillerArant 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ask the Mariners

    • @ghostofyou9721
      @ghostofyou9721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a feeling they will at some point. Maybe not in my lifetime but they will.

  • @rackstraw
    @rackstraw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Vince Naimoli...I remember the furniture store that leased space in the Trop, complete with price tags hanging from the furniture. George III had some petty feuds, but his with Naimoli was probably justified.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn’t mention that in the video, but reading about how he made the “luxury box” basically just a furniture store made me laugh

    • @rackstraw
      @rackstraw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AndThatsBaseball I wonder how much furniture they sold. Who goes to the ballpark and thinks "You know what I really need today? A dresser!"

  • @John_Smith_Smith_John
    @John_Smith_Smith_John 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was a bat boy back in 2004-2008 for an AAA team and we would face the Durham Bulls and at the time Elijah Dukes and Delmon Young were on that Bulls team lmao both HUGE douche bags to say the least.

  • @williamg8269
    @williamg8269 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chicago White Sox: "Hold my beer"

  • @adamhustler3639
    @adamhustler3639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Makes no sense to me to allow them to take guys from other teams just to trade them. Should had some rule where you had to hold them for at least a year or something

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      With mlb expansion expected within the next decade, I wonder how the format of the draft will change.

    • @LeanMrfuzzles
      @LeanMrfuzzles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Teams have always been allowed to trade for players and immediately flip them. That happens in every North American sport.

    • @adamhustler3639
      @adamhustler3639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @LeanMrfuzzles An expansion draft isn't a trade situation. We're talking about just taking a player from another team to fill your new teams roster, and then flipping him.

  • @hectorolivas7122
    @hectorolivas7122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    imagine drake wants to learn about the history of the rays and this video gives him flashbacks

    • @dr.cornwater2886
      @dr.cornwater2886 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎶he a fan he a fan he a fan🎶

  • @richarddash6654
    @richarddash6654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As a life long devil rays fan born and raised in Tampa you did a great job on the video bro! Loved seeing all that old footage!

  • @alexjessop5330
    @alexjessop5330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe they had some of the worst rosters in their early existence. But I can easily say they are not the worst mlb franchise ever. I don't really know who it would be, one that refuses to contended or punish contenders. I'm a Blue jays fan I hate the rays, But I can easily say they are not doing a bad job. They are a throne in lots of teams sides. It's fun underdog team unless you have to play them all the time. then they are todd flanders mini putting, " I'll do this but it won't go in, oh it did". Yes they havent won a world series. But GM's are not clairvoyant. All they can do is build a yearly contender. The Marlins everyone says are the worst organization, they have two world series. So make up your mind.

  • @slinky_malinki5330
    @slinky_malinki5330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Would love to see a video on how they turned it around so quickly. From the worst team in 2007 to making it to the World Series in 2008, and becoming regular playoff contenders until the early 2010s, going through a "mid" stage when Kevin Cash cane on board, and then making the playoffs 5 years in a row. And all while having a bottom 3 payroll.
    Definitely gonna have to highlight the insanity of 2011 game 162 and rhe buildup to it.

    • @tjmc8846
      @tjmc8846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember 162 like it was yesterday

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a few years after Stuart Sternberg bought the team and initiated the team change from Devil Rays to Rays. 2008 was their first year as Rays.

  • @ronanaviation9520
    @ronanaviation9520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I refuse to believe that the Rays are worse than the Seattle Mariners

    • @Danielvogelbachstan
      @Danielvogelbachstan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rays never had no Griffey or Ichiro

    • @ronanaviation9520
      @ronanaviation9520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Danielvogelbachstan Mariners never won a pennant, took 15 years to finish above .500, only went to the playoffs 5 times, choked a record season, and had a 20+ year playoff drought

    • @Trillyana
      @Trillyana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Mariners are the only current MLB team that has never been to the World Series

  • @thatoneoshawott5826
    @thatoneoshawott5826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Welp, time to get the beer. This is going to be painful for me

  • @xavierjc94
    @xavierjc94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @20:08 the music is from some game I played in my childhood and I can’t remember lol. Has to be a Pokémon one

    • @hannig2010ify
      @hannig2010ify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude I'm dying right now trying to figure it out.

    • @trobinson9342
      @trobinson9342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's HeartGold/Soulsilver Dark Cave Theme

  • @whereisspacebar2991
    @whereisspacebar2991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I saw this video in my subscriptions but wanted to wait to sit back and enjoy it. Fantastic video, I've always been a sucker for the Rays.

  • @dpglounge4900
    @dpglounge4900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do a video like this on one of the worst ran sports franchises in the Milwaukee Brewers been around since 1970 one world series appearance in 1982 and lost then 26 years without a playoff appearances and 10 total in the entire existence brutal

  • @PHXNKVHXLIC
    @PHXNKVHXLIC 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    Insert cliche 0 views bro fell off comment

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Funniest joke ever told

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Unfunny as ever.

    • @lucioordo3647
      @lucioordo3647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Gay

    • @hutchphilpot6870
      @hutchphilpot6870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@lucioordo3647Glad you’re coming to terms with yourself. It’s time to be yourself. It’s 2024, come on out of that dark closet.

    • @patbruno3049
      @patbruno3049 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1 day later, over 20k views 😂

  • @despiracy9151
    @despiracy9151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I asked you 2 years ago and I am asking again. Would you please do the second decade? BTW. This is better than the first version and I thought that the first one was strong.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think there’s as interesting of a story arc over the second decade. The team gets pretty boring and robotic. Not as many wacky stories to tell.

    • @despiracy9151
      @despiracy9151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do have a point because it becomes more of a numbers story. In the second decade if the Rays trade you one of their pitchers, there is something wrong with that pitcher. The Rays also had incredible luck with other teams cast aways like Fernando Rodney. There is also game 162. One of the most insane days in baseball history.

  • @JonathanLit
    @JonathanLit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m proud of you for standing up to and rejecting the better help money. The whole thing is a scam and it shows your rock solid integrity. Instant like from me. Keep up the good work!

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Man, this is something. It's the Bad News Bears.

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They will always be the devil rays to me. I would of been sbout 10-11 years old when they started and the name has just stuck with me. Also, as a red sox fan its great to watch the devil rays get whooped 😊

  • @PrimarySweeper13
    @PrimarySweeper13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But, Devil Rays was a Goated name

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Goated jerseys (the first ones, not the shitty solid green ones)

  • @ronaldwilson9525
    @ronaldwilson9525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Until this year’s Chicago White Sox. And I’ve been a Sox fan since 1968.

  • @Bc232klm
    @Bc232klm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Legend. Love your videos. Feels like home

  • @MalWave
    @MalWave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember going to a Blue Jays game YEARS ago....maybe 2001-2002 or so. We sat near what I thought was a private box and started making fun of the Devil Rays as they proceeded to get spanked.
    I eventually turned around and saw a bunch of angry older gentlemen glaring at me.
    Our seats were in front of the box for membera of the Rays' management. Iirc the GM was in there 😂😂😂

  • @KennyFrierson
    @KennyFrierson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More Devil than Ray back in the day

  • @llbigwave
    @llbigwave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember the Tampa Bay Double A’s.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frank the Tank ahhh nickname

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Josh Hamilton ABSOLUTELY had to go to somewhere else to make an impact. Being young with money and bad influences around him in Florida there's no way cocaine wasnt going to find its way to him. Its already pretty available in the rest of the country but especially there.

  • @BT1919
    @BT1919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m confused, why did other sports TH-camrs get negative feedback for doing Better Help ads?

    • @wussup12345
      @wussup12345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In short, the company is one big giant scam

    • @TheCoopMan
      @TheCoopMan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It bills itself as a call in therapy/psychology service. But they are a lot of bad stories about the service they actually put out. I would recommend doing research on it but a good example is they put someone on hold for HOURS who was having suicidal thoughts before ending the call.

  • @kyleolson8977
    @kyleolson8977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the checklist for starting the team in 1998, you forgot "creating awesome 3D TV graphics" as seen at 5:54.

  • @Tsuny999
    @Tsuny999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I HATE THE RAYS THEYRE SO ANNOYING AND BORING WITH THE WORST STADIUM AND DULL DESIGNS WORST TEAM IN THE AL EAST

  • @simondaughtry4619
    @simondaughtry4619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rays are the best run team in the MLB for my money and theirs...

  • @terminator6950
    @terminator6950 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will say, there are teams (or eras of teams) that were way worse. You just have to go back really far. The Expansion Washington Senators with only one winning season in their eleven miserable seasons in the MLB. The St. Louis Browns; who only won ONE pennant in their 52 years of existence. And TWELVE winning seasons total. The Philadelphia Athletics (who followed a formula of having a dynasty, then falling off a cliff and being absolutely horrible for years), The KANSAS CITY Athletics were awful; never winning more than 74 games in a season. The Phillies from 1916 to 1949 were horrendous (a grand total of TWO winning seasons during that span of 33 years [1916 and 1917, which after they won the NL pennant in 1915. Then they went 33 years without a winning season, before a a miraculous pennant win in 1950. The Boston Braves won two pennants and one World Series title in 41 years, twelve winning seasons overall. And four of those came during the late 1940s and 1950 where they were carried by Warren Spahn and Johnny Sain. And a span from 1915 to 1945 where they had 8 winning seasons and 23 losing seasons. Their winning seasons came in streaks of either two or three, before having MORE (sometimes way more) than three losing seasons.
    So yes, there were teams, either still around or defunct, who had stretches worse than the Devil Rays, but the Devil Rays awful seasons are probably more well-known because they happened recently, and there was more sports coverage and more media coverage, so people were able to see firsthand how dreadful the team was, and how horrible/ troubled some of the players were as human beings. And also how incompetent the ownership of this team was.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do think it’s more difficult to be this bad in the modern era. The draft, tv revenue sharing, and ease of access to data have leveled the playing field for smaller teams. So even though the title is slightly disingenuous, I think there’s still an argument to be made that the decade of the devil rays is a mix of the worst management and luck for any era of a ballclub.
      But just as you say, there were plenty of crazy stories that went unreported on the most awful teams of past eras.

  • @TacomaParkour
    @TacomaParkour 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    O "bro fell off" comments after 5 days? Bro is back

  • @i_is_peter
    @i_is_peter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good information, but for all that research... It's Tampa BAY. The team name is Tampa BAY. Not Tampa. They don't play in Tampa. They aren't named Tampa. I know it sounds like a stupid distinction, especially to people outside of the greater Tampa Bay area, but it's worth getting right.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got me there, I pretty sloppily used Tampa, Tampa Bay, and St. Pete interchangeably.

  • @RobertoHernandez-eb5ms
    @RobertoHernandez-eb5ms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Damn no mention of the great 1998 season Closer Hernandez had 43 saves for a god awful 69 win team.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was one of the team’s only good relievers in the early years. Probably should’ve written a couple lines about him, seeing as he was an all star

  • @ctcards2636
    @ctcards2636 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your videos. My one critique is when ya show... say lineup of the 04 Rays around the 27 min mark, its only on the screen for a sec. Please leave the stats you take the time to put up in the video, for a lil longer. Thats all i ask. Other than that i see perfection in these videos, you nail these. I am addicted. For sure :-) Thanks and please i hope you dont take my critique the wrong way. ;-)

  • @jopilot4126
    @jopilot4126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video didn’t know about Tampa wanted to draft mark tex and cutch

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Imagine those 2008-12 Rays teams with those two guys

    • @sethkinslow674
      @sethkinslow674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't imagine the pirates without mccutchen

  • @hometownhoops
    @hometownhoops 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Respect

  • @slinky_malinki5330
    @slinky_malinki5330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been a Rays fan my whole life. Those first 10 years weren't fun lol

  • @bk_goatkim679
    @bk_goatkim679 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember your devil rays history videos. This rays content honestly is the best glad you did a newer version of it with more data

  • @person1192
    @person1192 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Baseball doesn’t exist legends Toe Nash and Elijah Dukes mentioned

  • @Andrew_John_28
    @Andrew_John_28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the tlou2 and gtaIV music featured throughout the video

  • @clay_utter
    @clay_utter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Huge W for not supporting betterhelp, add super chats to your channel and I’ll donate.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have them enabled on my end, but I’ve gotten comments saying it doesn’t show up. Idk how to fix that.

  • @JohnDoe-ro1jw
    @JohnDoe-ro1jw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kendrick Lamar used this sample

  • @Zamoraxd
    @Zamoraxd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jorge Cantú Mentioned 🗣🗣🗣

  • @jcorona984
    @jcorona984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soon to be the 2024 Chicago White Sox

  • @yeameat3463
    @yeameat3463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a rays fan the first couple years were rough but recently it’s been getting a lot better only if stu would actually spend money 😢😢😢

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stu has made great hires, but he's seriously limiting the org by not spending

    • @ToMaToEsGrOw
      @ToMaToEsGrOw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is. On a new stadium.

  • @ghostofyou9721
    @ghostofyou9721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't know they traded for Ben Zobrist who is a Cubs hero. I love the guy.

  • @スプーニーバーガー-t8l
    @スプーニーバーガー-t8l 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    日本のタンパベイファンです。日本語版作って😂

  • @smolitj
    @smolitj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    DO let this distract you by the fact that Dallas Keuchel in back

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was dealing through 3 innings

  • @bradmarepublic
    @bradmarepublic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seeing Hamilton in the old "sleeveless" Renegades jersey is just a hit of nostalgia as a Hudson Valley local

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love finding rare footage like that

  • @RetroBaseball
    @RetroBaseball 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The goat is back.

  • @hitchikerspie
    @hitchikerspie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliantly done, almost inspires me to make a video for my favourite team

  • @jacobthomas8598
    @jacobthomas8598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dan wheeler was my top tier coach down in clearwater fl hes a really nice guy who cared about his players

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a 34th round pick to make the league as young as he did, he must be an incredibly hard worker, as well

  • @DarthPlagueisTheWise620
    @DarthPlagueisTheWise620 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Perna was talking about receiving all that backlash during a recent stream of his

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love Perna I felt awful for him reading those comments

  • @Anime2077ttv
    @Anime2077ttv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for refusing to take money from Better Help, as someone who deals with depression & can’t afford the level of therapist I need I turned to orgs like them, they only made it worse and I truly hate being pushed into Christianity or any religion as I am not someone who believes in that stuff but they persisted.

  • @PopOutPaulie
    @PopOutPaulie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah, somebody's lyin', I could see the vibes on Ak'
    Even he lookin' compromised, let's peel the layers back

  • @DNSKansas
    @DNSKansas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:25 Great catch by Gerald Williams, who threw the ball to second to complete a double play. The batter? Some guy named David Ortiz.

  • @nathangursky4628
    @nathangursky4628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How didn’t this team employ Lastings Milledge?

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not nearly controversial enough!

  • @foramoreperfectamerica8490
    @foramoreperfectamerica8490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pokemon music remix, nice.

  • @thomasivey4608
    @thomasivey4608 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a rays fan all i can say is 😢

  • @GeeEm1313
    @GeeEm1313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, Wade Townsend *puke*
    The Orioles drafted him in 2004, but he didn't sign with them.

  • @CurtisDavis-ok1eq
    @CurtisDavis-ok1eq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How Truly Unique!

  • @STICKGUYMB
    @STICKGUYMB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Having an outfield of Crawford, Baldelli, and Hamilton also batting 1-2-3 would've been legendary

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Could’ve easily been a 15 WAR per year outfield

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Baldelli (as a player) could never stay healthy and it took a long time for Josh Hamilton to become productive. At least Baldelli is a quality manager today with the Twins.

  • @chrislewis5069
    @chrislewis5069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rocco baldelli was the best devil ray in that early era imo

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly in that convo. Could've been a star if not for injuries

  • @ZomegJ
    @ZomegJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lmao, im a Rockies fan, and the rays definitely are not as bad as the Rockies have been the last couple of years.😂😂

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since 2007, these teams have gone in opposite directions

    • @ZomegJ
      @ZomegJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @AndThatsBaseball Yes, it sucks because here in Colorado, they have a strong fan base, but the stubborn owner we have smh....

  • @VACATETHE48
    @VACATETHE48 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm currently trying to imagine a Crawford, Hamilton, Zobrist OF for the 2008 Rays.
    Good grief. That's a dynasty core right there.

  • @Azure_Flxme
    @Azure_Flxme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow I’m early

  • @NTEDOG561
    @NTEDOG561 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best logo in the league

  • @ScubaFingSteve
    @ScubaFingSteve 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Much respect for turning down better help. Its not easy to turn down that money and I think its appropriate to plug yourself instead of a predatory company

  • @eduardourenda3244
    @eduardourenda3244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The music you used in minutes 20:30 seconds is from Pokémon 😅😅😁😁

    • @hannig2010ify
      @hannig2010ify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it Pokémon? Do you know which one? I'm trying to figure it out

  • @GizmoBeach
    @GizmoBeach 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tampa Bay finished last in the AL East every year but one (were a few games ahead of Toronto one year under Piniella) from 1998-2007 and had several 100-loss seasons.
    But they damned-sure turned it around, despite that park’s bad location and fan apathy. I’m old enough to remember Seattle’s return to MLB in 1977 and how long it took to have a winning season. They’ve had nothing close to Tampa’s playoff history, either.

  • @matthicksxx
    @matthicksxx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, very well put together video!

  • @achill69
    @achill69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice use of The All-Father at the end 👌🏾

  • @SconnerStudios
    @SconnerStudios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many prospects with hall of fame level potential who turned out to be busts. The "best" I guess would be Aubrey Huff and Carl Crawford, but dozens of prospects from Delmon Young to BJ Upton ended up being nobodies when they looked like they were going to carry their team to the world series at a point. Oh, Scott Kazmir was pretty decent too, given the fact he was always on bad teams, so his stats are a little warped (like trying to compare Zack Greinke to Verlander)

  • @CynicalSphere
    @CynicalSphere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is that Sadgasm playing at 39:00 LMAO? Glad I found your channel this video was a great watch