Or an extradimensionnal being, taking the form of human to study our planet and other realities, including one where creature of fiction such as the witcher and dnd one are real or mutated human immune to the virus here.
Ironically, something that was meant to prevent humans from losing their humanity, was the thing that ultimately took it away, and gave it to our closest relatives.
This begs two questions: -1: Why did the initial scientists use a retrovirus, or a virus at all? Why not create micro-drones or something of the like? -2: Are humans after the mutation in this case truly non-sapient? Language isn’t entirely speech-based, nor is the lack of speech itself an indication of lower intelligence, as many people today are nonspeaking but communicate through alternative means. Wouldn’t this just mean the remnants of humanity have a language essentially devoid of speech but are able to communicate through as sign language, via other gesture/posture based communication, or even just by writing? After all these same humans after the mutation do have decently sophisticated clothing which I doubt the apes are making for them. Maybe the flame isn’t dimming out as much as finding a new kindling.
Probably the micro-drone technology of required level was(and is) completely unavailable. And even in case of availability, that route would require much more money and time to be developed. And if developed, that technology would bring several ways of wreck-a-mankind of it's own(in that universe).
For your first question, some viruses are actually used for genetic engineering in the real world. I'm no geneticist, but I suppose that since viruses already have the ability to modify cells, using them to create changes is easier than creating an entirely new method
1. The 1st movie, "Rise", was made in 2011, so it's likely in that in-universe it was also 2011 & the technology to make cell-sized drones wasn't invented yet. Even if those ever exited Gen-Sys, the company that was working to cure Alzteimers, likely had a tight budget & was specialized in working with genetics, so they worked with what they had. 2. With the degradation of mental compacity I'd say it's pretty unlikely that humans would be able to come up with an alternative mode of communication in such a short amount of time. In "War", Nova was able to learn Sign language from the apes pretty quickly after being infected & for being a kid. But it's unlikely that 1 in 10 surviving humans would know a sign language or that they would be able to distribute their knowledge across an entire group with the mutated virus. Plus it seems most apes in both "War" & the most recent movie don't see humans as worth educating or sympathizing with. It was likely a similar situation with early humans: the other human species likely had a similar mental capacity to us, but since we were learning faster & didn't care to share our knowledge with them they were trampled on in the end. In these movies, while the vast knowledge of humans was falling through their fingers, the apes were able to catch some of them & run with it. That's what it seems like to me. But yeah these movies are so great & bring up many interesting questions.
i imagine its more like idiocracy where the "average" human iq dropped massivly compared to our current average so theyd be more sapient then any modern primate but slightly less then the lowest adult human as of now. going of the first movie which is supposed to be the distant future of the new series as prequels the humans were certainly sapient but more on par with children then adults mentally. alongside the diffculities of losing most speech releated skills man so despratly built to our advantage for tens of millinia.
For retroviruses, it is due to their unique function to insert permanent genetic code into human DNA. Ie. how HIV reproduces isn't really by infecting your immune cells like most viruses but instead re-writing the function of your bone marrow to cause the marrow to produce HIV viruses.
Yes! The Simian Flu unintentionally had a huge impact on my interest In virology and viral gene therapy. I’m actually super happy that you put out this video lol
Here are some ideas for some lesser-known creatures for you to do Lusca (which I swear to God looks a lot like sharktopus don’t believe me look it up), Akhlut (a mammalian looking orca), Arabhar (a flying snake from the Arabian Sea region), Bies(a slavic demon that look a lot like the fiends from the Witcher), Bixi(A ginormous Chinese turtle dragon) Tatzelwurm(a stubby lizard with 2 to 6 feet, measuring from around 1 to 7 feet in length with a cat-like face) Cactus Cats(a bobcat-like creature, covered in hair-like thorns, with particularly long spines extending from the legs and its armored, branching tail)
@@ananslator3655 guess who’s back (back), back again (gain), Paki’s(etus) back (back), tell a friend (friend) Paki’s(etus) is meant to be pronounced “pakicetus” in case you were wondering
I like that some of these come with a story attached. I like that you have a fictional presenter that narrates their experiences. I can see a bit of an over arching story starting to take place and I enjoy that most of the episodes seem interconnected in some way. The science is definitely thrilling, but I also really enjoy hearing about the narrator’s struggles. I like that it’s subtle. Overall an excellent series.
Please do another cryptid biology, please. I want to know how something as freaky as The Goatman or the Dover Demon would look and function in a real-life scenario
Must admit, while the virus episodes are interesting (and this, like the mindflayer episode, stands alone outside the 'regular' Thought Potato universe that's being developed), I'd like to see an actual cryptid again. Considering the recordings of our favorite Vida Nova employee are supposed to be out of order, maybe we can get an older one from when our dear researcher was still looking into creatures and not diseases. Just for a palate cleanser.
@@MastodonMann Mr. Henry McDaniel (the primary witness) owned a kangaroo while he was in the military in Australia. He was certain it wasn't a kangaroo. OTOH, Devil Monkeys are reported in the Southern, New England and Midwestern (like Ohio) States. They are purported to look like a four foot tall, long tailed cross between a baboon, a canine and a kangaroo. They are supposedly great leapers and quite aggressive. Also, the same areas are said to have "Phantom Kangaroos." In one report, said creature was stated to eat dogs, another Devil Monkey behavior.
I’d love it if you could do a HLV HVV co-infection “study” Edit: ever since I first watched the movie Underworld, I’ve loved the concept of a werewolf vampire hybrid
Could you please do a biology explained of Banshees or Fairies. Love your content. I can't even count the amount of times I've watched your Abyssal mermaid video.
for any Fallout fans, with the release of the Fallout show I'd be surprised if Thought Potato didn't make a video on the effects of ghoulification, but I think it would be much cooler to create a super mutant FEV video
I absolutely adored this video. I've always wanted an actual, scientific, explanation of the mechanisms of the Simian Flu. Now I don't need a headcanon anymore! Although I will say, my only complaint here is how the video never addressed the fact that humans are apes. I know that doesn't happen in the franchise but I think it could've fit the scientific tone here much better. It could also explain the differences in viral reaction in humans specifically because of mutations exclusive to the human lineage, especially the infamous fusion of the equivalent of other apes' chromosomes 2 and 3
Maybe you could make a video on the Minotaur from Greek mythology. I’d imagine the Minotaur as a species of wild cow that evolved a body-plan similar to the extinct ungulate Chalicotherium of the late Miocene. These cows have evolved to eat the leaves on the tops of trees, as well as still being able to eat grass. There front limbs are much longer and flexible then there hind limbs. There front hooves have also evolved into more articulate appendages, each ending in a sharp, curved claw to help them pull down branches and to defend themselves from predators. Most of there weight would be taken up by there shorter rear limbs which have become much more muscular in order to help the animal support itself both in a quadruple and bipedal stance. The Minotaur spends majority of its time on all fours, however when the Minotaur is confronted with a predator, a rival, or an out of reach plant, the Minotaur will rear up on it’s hind legs. Minotaur’s are extremely territorial, especially during mating season. Males will often patrol large stretches of land in order to find a mate. If a male Minotaur confronts another male, the two will begin to stomp there hooves on the ground and make loud bellowing roars to intimidate the rival. These stomps and roars are so loud and powerful that they can be heard from miles away and can sometimes make the very ground rumble. If this display is not enough to detour the competitor, the two males then charge at each other with their massive horns. They will also rear up on their hind legs and begin to claw at each other with their sharp hooves. This fight will continue until either male is to injured, tired, or in rare cases even killed. Minotaurs are also incredibly smart for there species. They have been most famous for being able to solve complex mazes much like pigs.
In the werewolf virus video, the comment section went absolutely ape (not sorry) over the idea that gorilla werewolves could be a possibility. Please, for the love of Umbrella, let me see simian flu/ lycanthropy hybridization.
Really lovely video, just came across this channel and I already am loving it! Just a thought, but do you think you could cover the biology of The Last of Us world's cordyceps fungus? I think it would super entertaining and interesting to watch!
@@isaacofthales4303 2005 Kong is kinda too easy to figure out where he belongs in the animal kingdom. MV Kong and Skar King would be an interesting challenge.
When I heard there was a new Planet of The Apes movie coming out, I decided to watch the first 3 reboot prequels in preparation. And while watching I thought “I want Thought Potato to do a video on the simian flu, I bet he can explain it. I’ll leave a comment as soon as his next video comes out telling him to do that.” And sure enough this was that next video. Btw, it would have been really cool if you pulled a plot twist and the end where you reveal that you yourself are an ape. Or alternatively, choke out and stop taking at the end because you caught the virus.
Yeah, I just wish they released an update to include the mutated form of the virus (loss of speech). All they’d have to do is add it as a mutation in the mutation tree
@Orion-Pax_34 I was just playing this and thought the same. It would be cool to have the option of mutating the virus to devolve humans, as a way to be accurate and as a way to slow down the cure. The remaining humans are either killed or captured as cattle
Please consider doing something related to Formicines or Arthropods in general, I think it will be very interesting to see how you handle insect biology!
Given the rising popularity thanks to the TV show, have you ever thought of doing a video on some of the creatures from the Fallout series? Because there are some *fascinating* creatures there. And since you already covered another fictional virus in this video, prehaps you are up to covering the numerous different strains of the Fourced Evolutionary Virus, or FEV?
@@b4tman_and_Rob1n FEV mostly turns humans into Super Mutants (except for a few certain strains or fusions with different animals). They are large, hulking green (or yellow) beings, who appear in the different Fallout games
@ThoughtPotato I don’t know if this fits better on the second channel (and even then I’m not certain) but could you do a biology video on the Xenomorph (and the reason I wonder if it’s possible is because since they’re aliens and I don’t know how their alien DNA (even though I’m not sure if they’d even have DNA or something else) and how the host mimicry would work)
It cam out a LONG time ago! I've seen it several times in the past few months. It's on TH-cam. EDIT: Nope, I was thinking of zombie/werewolf and zombie/vampire.
The only way is if you use an HMX vaccine in conjunction with it or it would never work. Just like when a kathaga ate a vampire's head who had taken the resilience enhancing HMX kept the 2 super viruses from destroying each other or killing off the Vm7 infection. Both vampire and werewolf have regenerative infections antithetical to each, not possible. You would have to engineer your own hybrid strain. Good luck with that.
These are my brothers' favorite movies, like he is all IN. Got an opening night ticket, took his girlfriend for a fancy dinner for the new one. The biggest fan right there
Aww dang, for a sec there at a glance i assumed ya somehow went into overdrive/locked in and gave us Bigfoot biology already, but it's just a non-cryptobiology vid lol. Another good potential non-cryptobiology vid could be on covering the dragons of Sawyer Lee's Dragonslayer Codex, another 3rd part of The Witcher monsters, and a video covering how humans would look when adapted for space, from Luna to Mars and the 0G environments, Lunarians, Martians, and Spacers oh my~!
What I'm missing there is how the mutated version of the virus spread among spatially very distant communities of survivors, especially when the means of rapid transport were no longer available.
You know what would be interesting? A video about the BOR-Parasite from Code Vein and how it transforms its hosts into Revenants and/or Lost. How their physiology and their abilities work. That would be epic.
I love reading about stuff like the simian flu I’d recommend Planet of the Apes firestorm which actually takes place during the pandemic (not seen video yet)
isn't genus pan closer to humans than it is to gorillans and orangutan, so shouldn't it at least have doffrent effects on each ape ? + humans and apes aren't both just primates hominins are also great apes.
@@randallbesch2424 The more traditional ones where they are more bird-like than bat-like. I would imagine that a biologically accurate harpy would be something like a giant eagle with feathers on its face that eerily resemble a human face.
@ThoughtPotato one last question, when taking requests for creatures for Cryptobiology, is there like a limit to what you’ll consider or do you like the challenge and go as far as possible (because I was gonna ask for something like the Gill-Man/the fish man from Shape of Water or for skinwalkers)
The virus didn’t directly affect the voc areas, it targeted the same area of the brain that gave the apes the ability to speak, but it took the humans’ ability away
Oh boi, you're talking about this strange series. I've wanted some content on the simian virus for a while since it seemed interesting in the first reboot movie of this series and seemed a little more grounded in reality then the original series, where somehow human achieve time travel years before engineering a retrovirus to treat alzheimers that unintentionally goes viral and increases ape intelligence while killing humans or lowering their intelligence. Bringing up the slight difference in cell structuring and the difference in immune responses between humans and apes is an interesting issue to discuss as it's why primate testing is never 100% reliable for human pharmaceuticals and why viruses that jump from apes or chimps are considerably worse for humans then the original host. That immunological response difference is also why bats are one of the worst species for anything to interact with and some people, at least for a time, unsure if that's changed more recently, thought bats were straight up immune to rabies due to how subdued their immune response is, so inflammation associated with many viruses is greatly reduced or even missing entirely and death from a fatal infection never comes from that side effect but direct cell damage from the invader. On the other hand, overreaction, especially of infections that infect the brain of a creature, causes inflammation that kills an amount of cells before the virus can even reach them and it becomes a two prong issue as the body unintentionally sabotages itself in the middle of the fight. That decreased immune response in the apes in this universe makes sense why it had positive effects, as little or no inflammation from the onset would allow the retrovirus to work without any unnecessary loss of cells, meanwhile in humans I wonder if the issue is doubled due to the virus being coded to promote the growth of new neurons, as it was created to counter a disease that causes the breakdown of old neurons, so that could cause some overcrowding while brain swelling would mash everything together so tight that neurons would be killed far quicker then they could theoretically be replaced. That's just my own personal thoughts though, I'm not a neurologist or biologist, I don't even have a college degree in any subject because school is annoying and too expensive, I just like fish and insects. It's fun to speculate though and it's good to keep learning so thanks for this video
Cool video. One thing, humans are apes. Separately referring one from another is like saying dogs and canines, or giraffes and artiodactyls. Theyre not separate things, one is just a member of the named clade you are using as a separate category
While technically true, humans are actually the last surviving member of a different branch of primates so it's more how chimps and apes are separated, distant cousins rather then close cousins, though it's not out of reach that the difference was made between humans (a species of unusually inelligent distant relative to the ape branch of primates) and the great apes, a closely related species group just because there's a few people out there that get mad if you call humans primates, despite that being their historical evolutionary roots, simply because I've even met people that thought humans weren't mammals. So ig some people think they're androids, but it's really that some people don't know or understand the definitions and how things work on those levels and think anything associated with animal is offensive to humans, as if it's offensive to call oneself a naturally occurring, hyper intelligent creature, which is pretty awesome ngl. Yeah though, calling humans apes isn't 100% correct, though not 100% incorrect either, some people just hate it either way outside of jokes and memes so that could play into it, though I legit don't know the exact reasoning unless Thought Potato decides to answer themself. My guess though is because humans are only distantly related to apes and have distinct features and different enough biology to be recognized as different groups, like how hyenas are neither dog nor cat, they've got similarities to both but are just too functionally different and their reproduction follows neither species group, so you could technically call them cats or dogs based on select features, but genetically they've either moved too far away from both or never converged into either category. Not that I'm personally opposed to calling humans apes though, I don't care, I just find the relations interesting enough to talk about on rare occasion because it also brings up the question of how different must a species evolve to be to be defined as a new species, and that's kinda neat and something I especially wonder about with domesticated animals
@@discordiacreates6669 Humans are great apes. All primates that are a part of the taxonomic family Hominidae (Great Ape Family) such as humans,chimps,and gorillas are great apes.
In college, I had a professor in philosophy deny that apes coukd sign or use computers yo communicate, my cognitive psych professor laughed at him while sitting in his class
Your philosophy teacher is right. Apes cannot sign as they lack the dexterity man has. Coco could never sign. All she did was do some gestures and her care givers would assign random meaning to them They do communicate with eachother and the best we can do is figure out what their body language means
@kingpotato7183 BTW, this was the same philosophy professor that freaked out over Riverworld, ripping it from a students hands , it was an English assignment
@@stefanjakubowski8222 funny how bro believes in koko propaganda 🤣 😂 The entire koko thing became a cult You actually believe that ape with big meaty hands which have the same dexterity of a muppet is able to sign an entire discourse about saving the planet 🤣🤣🤣 In one video her caregiver translates one word and the care giver says she meant another word which rhymes with the word she just translated. Sign language doesn't work like that. Some words might rhyme when spoken. But in sign language they have drastically different signs. Also they barely had any people who actually knew sign language on the team. And the ASL experts they did have they barely listened to them. At the end the ASL guys left and the scientists were teaching koko sign language. Scientists who have 0 experience with sign language and don't really understand how it works. So how could these scientists even tell she invented new signs? Very curious indeed.
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Biology of brahmaraksha pls
Potatoes together strong
You should cover the Krippin Virus from I Am Legend (2007)
Can this virus also effect monkeys and leamers just like it effect apes
Can simion flu also make monkey 🐒 and leamers smarter as well
Thought Potato is an ape studying the post apocalypse confirmed ❤
Or an extradimensionnal being, taking the form of human to study our planet and other realities, including one where creature of fiction such as the witcher and dnd one are real
or mutated human immune to the virus here.
That is until the Mind Flayers get him presumably leading to an Ape/Squid Person war
SPOILERS FROM KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES:
Or a scientist in one of the bunkers.
Ironically, something that was meant to prevent humans from losing their humanity, was the thing that ultimately took it away, and gave it to our closest relatives.
Thank you captain obvious
Me after binging planet of the apes: I want to know the science
Thought Potato: *rolls sleeves up*
Babe wake up, new thought potato video just dropped
Me sending the link to my husband who is still asleep
Apes🦧🦍🐒 together strong 💪
Let him sleep, he was busy with your mom last night
I'm worried about babe... she's always sleeping.
beat me to it
This begs two questions:
-1: Why did the initial scientists use a retrovirus, or a virus at all? Why not create micro-drones or something of the like?
-2: Are humans after the mutation in this case truly non-sapient? Language isn’t entirely speech-based, nor is the lack of speech itself an indication of lower intelligence, as many people today are nonspeaking but communicate through alternative means. Wouldn’t this just mean the remnants of humanity have a language essentially devoid of speech but are able to communicate through as sign language, via other gesture/posture based communication, or even just by writing?
After all these same humans after the mutation do have decently sophisticated clothing which I doubt the apes are making for them. Maybe the flame isn’t dimming out as much as finding a new kindling.
Probably the micro-drone technology of required level was(and is) completely unavailable. And even in case of availability, that route would require much more money and time to be developed. And if developed, that technology would bring several ways of wreck-a-mankind of it's own(in that universe).
For your first question, some viruses are actually used for genetic engineering in the real world. I'm no geneticist, but I suppose that since viruses already have the ability to modify cells, using them to create changes is easier than creating an entirely new method
1. The 1st movie, "Rise", was made in 2011, so it's likely in that in-universe it was also 2011 & the technology to make cell-sized drones wasn't invented yet. Even if those ever exited Gen-Sys, the company that was working to cure Alzteimers, likely had a tight budget & was specialized in working with genetics, so they worked with what they had.
2. With the degradation of mental compacity I'd say it's pretty unlikely that humans would be able to come up with an alternative mode of communication in such a short amount of time. In "War", Nova was able to learn Sign language from the apes pretty quickly after being infected & for being a kid. But it's unlikely that 1 in 10 surviving humans would know a sign language or that they would be able to distribute their knowledge across an entire group with the mutated virus. Plus it seems most apes in both "War" & the most recent movie don't see humans as worth educating or sympathizing with. It was likely a similar situation with early humans: the other human species likely had a similar mental capacity to us, but since we were learning faster & didn't care to share our knowledge with them they were trampled on in the end. In these movies, while the vast knowledge of humans was falling through their fingers, the apes were able to catch some of them & run with it. That's what it seems like to me.
But yeah these movies are so great & bring up many interesting questions.
i imagine its more like idiocracy where the "average" human iq dropped massivly compared to our current average so theyd be more sapient then any modern primate but slightly less then the lowest adult human as of now.
going of the first movie which is supposed to be the distant future of the new series as prequels the humans were certainly sapient but more on par with children then adults mentally.
alongside the diffculities of losing most speech releated skills man so despratly built to our advantage for tens of millinia.
For retroviruses, it is due to their unique function to insert permanent genetic code into human DNA. Ie. how HIV reproduces isn't really by infecting your immune cells like most viruses but instead re-writing the function of your bone marrow to cause the marrow to produce HIV viruses.
Man this is freaking awesome. Anything Planet of the Apes is an A+ in my book.
Completely agree!!
Yee yee!!
0:19 i served with "Admiral Goal" in 05...hell of sailor.
I've heard his tale, one of glory. I served under General Idea, myself.
@@rollochairbreaker230what a coincidence, i served with “Captain Thought”
Yes! The Simian Flu unintentionally had a huge impact on my interest In virology and viral gene therapy. I’m actually super happy that you put out this video lol
Here are some ideas for some lesser-known creatures for you to do Lusca (which I swear to God looks a lot like sharktopus don’t believe me look it up), Akhlut (a mammalian looking orca), Arabhar (a flying snake from the Arabian Sea region), Bies(a slavic demon that look a lot like the fiends from the Witcher), Bixi(A ginormous Chinese turtle dragon) Tatzelwurm(a stubby lizard with 2 to 6 feet, measuring from around 1 to 7 feet in length with a cat-like face) Cactus Cats(a bobcat-like creature, covered in hair-like thorns, with particularly long spines extending from the legs and its armored, branching tail)
Orcas are mammals.
@@alexjewett7455 Well it’s mammalian like as in its body somewhat looks kind of like a wolf
@@ananslator3655 after looking it up, I think quadrupedal orca would have been a better description.
@@alexjewett7455 ahh yeah
@@ananslator3655 guess who’s back (back), back again (gain), Paki’s(etus) back (back), tell a friend (friend)
Paki’s(etus) is meant to be pronounced “pakicetus” in case you were wondering
I like that some of these come with a story attached. I like that you have a fictional presenter that narrates their experiences. I can see a bit of an over arching story starting to take place and I enjoy that most of the episodes seem interconnected in some way. The science is definitely thrilling, but I also really enjoy hearing about the narrator’s struggles. I like that it’s subtle. Overall an excellent series.
Please do another cryptid biology, please. I want to know how something as freaky as The Goatman or the Dover Demon would look and function in a real-life scenario
Must admit, while the virus episodes are interesting (and this, like the mindflayer episode, stands alone outside the 'regular' Thought Potato universe that's being developed), I'd like to see an actual cryptid again. Considering the recordings of our favorite Vida Nova employee are supposed to be out of order, maybe we can get an older one from when our dear researcher was still looking into creatures and not diseases. Just for a palate cleanser.
Perhaps the Dover Demon was a Devil Monkey. Indeed, it's likely that the Enfield Horror was one too.
@@jackalope2302the Enfeild horror was a kangaroo you know that right?
@@MastodonMann Mr. Henry McDaniel (the primary witness) owned a kangaroo while he was in the military in Australia. He was certain it wasn't a kangaroo.
OTOH, Devil Monkeys are reported in the Southern, New England and Midwestern (like Ohio) States. They are purported to look like a four foot tall, long tailed cross between a baboon, a canine and a kangaroo. They are supposedly great leapers and quite aggressive.
Also, the same areas are said to have "Phantom Kangaroos." In one report, said creature was stated to eat dogs, another Devil Monkey behavior.
Look up Roanoke gaming. He does excellent videos on cryptids and movie monsters.
Dude! I was just thinking "Thought Potato should do an episode on the Simian Flu from PotA" ❤
New Thought Potato! My favorite food
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I’d love it if you could do a HLV HVV co-infection “study”
Edit: ever since I first watched the movie Underworld, I’ve loved the concept of a werewolf vampire hybrid
Could you please do a biology explained of Banshees or Fairies. Love your content. I can't even count the amount of times I've watched your Abyssal mermaid video.
These movies are my favorite trilogy ever, and it’s a dream come true to see someone explore the Simian Flu from a spec bio perspective =D
Never knew I’d want this video so much but now it’s here and I’m glad it is
for any Fallout fans, with the release of the Fallout show I'd be surprised if Thought Potato didn't make a video on the effects of ghoulification, but I think it would be much cooler to create a super mutant FEV video
I just adore the intelligence in your videos.
I absolutely adored this video. I've always wanted an actual, scientific, explanation of the mechanisms of the Simian Flu. Now I don't need a headcanon anymore!
Although I will say, my only complaint here is how the video never addressed the fact that humans are apes. I know that doesn't happen in the franchise but I think it could've fit the scientific tone here much better. It could also explain the differences in viral reaction in humans specifically because of mutations exclusive to the human lineage, especially the infamous fusion of the equivalent of other apes' chromosomes 2 and 3
I think Rise addressed this. Apes have stronger immune systems, so the virus affected humans and apes in very different ways
I think many of our immune systems just could not handle the virus.
I guess i became a fan of the apes movies at a good time because these movies are getting popular again
just finished the TPOTA trilogy and now I’m OBSESSED with this
Maybe you could make a video on the Minotaur from Greek mythology. I’d imagine the Minotaur as a species of wild cow that evolved a body-plan similar to the extinct ungulate Chalicotherium of the late Miocene. These cows have evolved to eat the leaves on the tops of trees, as well as still being able to eat grass. There front limbs are much longer and flexible then there hind limbs. There front hooves have also evolved into more articulate appendages, each ending in a sharp, curved claw to help them pull down branches and to defend themselves from predators. Most of there weight would be taken up by there shorter rear limbs which have become much more muscular in order to help the animal support itself both in a quadruple and bipedal stance. The Minotaur spends majority of its time on all fours, however when the Minotaur is confronted with a predator, a rival, or an out of reach plant, the Minotaur will rear up on it’s hind legs. Minotaur’s are extremely territorial, especially during mating season. Males will often patrol large stretches of land in order to find a mate. If a male Minotaur confronts another male, the two will begin to stomp there hooves on the ground and make loud bellowing roars to intimidate the rival. These stomps and roars are so loud and powerful that they can be heard from miles away and can sometimes make the very ground rumble. If this display is not enough to detour the competitor, the two males then charge at each other with their massive horns. They will also rear up on their hind legs and begin to claw at each other with their sharp hooves. This fight will continue until either male is to injured, tired, or in rare cases even killed. Minotaurs are also incredibly smart for there species. They have been most famous for being able to solve complex mazes much like pigs.
Alternatively, actually a calicotherium (with horns)
@@MastodonMann Why would a Chalicotherium evolve horns?
@@wendylacey2745 🤷♂️
ONLY it is a gene engineered monster that is part human and all carnivore.
guess whaaaaaat!
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY
TOGETHER STRONG!!
@@Igoorboy APE TOGETHER STRONG
In the werewolf virus video, the comment section went absolutely ape (not sorry) over the idea that gorilla werewolves could be a possibility.
Please, for the love of Umbrella, let me see simian flu/ lycanthropy hybridization.
Yeah or even chimps or bonobos
Simian flu isn't canon.
Yes i want a Werewolf Gorilla
@@KiraiKatsuji Okay. But. Counterpoint.
Manticores are primates in this universe.
Werewolf manticore.
@@whyamihere555 You bought me good sir, that sounds absolutely amazingly scary
do biology of the centaur please
Oh it's coming
@@ThoughtPotatowhich centaur though? Fallout centaur or real world mythology centaur?
@@Nathan_ColeyI got $10 bucks on mythology centaur
@@ThoughtPotato I really hope you manage to find a way to let them have six limbs.
Apes together strong
I think this is your best video.
Not even joking.
The apes look bigger in the movies than they actually are in real life
Biologically of the Jersey Devil would be an awesome episode.
That and the loch ness monster
I have been waiting so long for this virus
The way that these movies took this goofy concept from a 70’s movie and thought it through this much is impressive
Seeing a new Thought Potato video, about my FAVORITE viral movie got a literal "Noice!!" outta me 😂
Bro, this needed to happen, thank you
This day keeps getting better
What a wonderfull day!
Really lovely video, just came across this channel and I already am loving it! Just a thought, but do you think you could cover the biology of The Last of Us world's cordyceps fungus? I think it would super entertaining and interesting to watch!
Speaking of apes, could you look at Kong and Skar King?
Probably Peter Jackson kong rather than Monsterverse Kong
@@isaacofthales4303 2005 Kong is kinda too easy to figure out where he belongs in the animal kingdom. MV Kong and Skar King would be an interesting challenge.
@@praetorianrex5571big gorilla
@@praetorianrex5571 for Kong to reach that size he would need hollow bones, air sacs and cartilaginous knees. See birds and dinosaurs for that
Been waiting for this one
When I heard there was a new Planet of The Apes movie coming out, I decided to watch the first 3 reboot prequels in preparation. And while watching I thought “I want Thought Potato to do a video on the simian flu, I bet he can explain it. I’ll leave a comment as soon as his next video comes out telling him to do that.” And sure enough this was that next video.
Btw, it would have been really cool if you pulled a plot twist and the end where you reveal that you yourself are an ape. Or alternatively, choke out and stop taking at the end because you caught the virus.
The Plague Inc mode of this was great
Yeah, I just wish they released an update to include the mutated form of the virus (loss of speech). All they’d have to do is add it as a mutation in the mutation tree
@Orion-Pax_34 I was just playing this and thought the same. It would be cool to have the option of mutating the virus to devolve humans, as a way to be accurate and as a way to slow down the cure. The remaining humans are either killed or captured as cattle
Chefs kiss, well done.
This was great!
i like how bro treats it like it actually happened 😂😂
One of my favorite franchises.
Me when Thought Potato releases a new video: "WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!"
Please consider doing something related to Formicines or Arthropods in general, I think it will be very interesting to see how you handle insect biology!
Can simian flu affect King Kong?
It should! That would be cool as fuck
No reason it couldn't
Only if he gets it from ur mum
I would love to see your take on the werehyena/ crocotta!
This is one time when I appreciate TH-cam's algorithm.
Given the rising popularity thanks to the TV show, have you ever thought of doing a video on some of the creatures from the Fallout series? Because there are some *fascinating* creatures there.
And since you already covered another fictional virus in this video, prehaps you are up to covering the numerous different strains of the Fourced Evolutionary Virus, or FEV?
is that the one where humans turned into crabs?? Can't remember the artist sorry
@@b4tman_and_Rob1n FEV mostly turns humans into Super Mutants (except for a few certain strains or fusions with different animals). They are large, hulking green (or yellow) beings, who appear in the different Fallout games
Very nice.
What a wonderful day
@@andreisrayton7357 WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY
You should cover Predators (Yautja) and Xenomorphs.
Yo this intro is sick
@ThoughtPotato I don’t know if this fits better on the second channel (and even then I’m not certain) but could you do a biology video on the Xenomorph (and the reason I wonder if it’s possible is because since they’re aliens and I don’t know how their alien DNA (even though I’m not sure if they’d even have DNA or something else) and how the host mimicry would work)
The Strigoi from the Strain would be interesting 🤔 I think.
I'm still waiting for the Vampire-Werewolf hybrid video…
Same 😮
It cam out a LONG time ago! I've seen it several times in the past few months. It's on TH-cam.
EDIT: Nope, I was thinking of zombie/werewolf and zombie/vampire.
The only way is if you use an HMX vaccine in conjunction with it or it would never work. Just like when a kathaga ate a vampire's head who had taken the resilience enhancing HMX kept the 2 super viruses from destroying each other or killing off the Vm7 infection. Both vampire and werewolf have regenerative infections antithetical to each, not possible. You would have to engineer your own hybrid strain. Good luck with that.
These are my brothers' favorite movies, like he is all IN. Got an opening night ticket, took his girlfriend for a fancy dinner for the new one. The biggest fan right there
Aww dang, for a sec there at a glance i assumed ya somehow went into overdrive/locked in and gave us Bigfoot biology already, but it's just a non-cryptobiology vid lol. Another good potential non-cryptobiology vid could be on covering the dragons of Sawyer Lee's Dragonslayer Codex, another 3rd part of The Witcher monsters, and a video covering how humans would look when adapted for space, from Luna to Mars and the 0G environments, Lunarians, Martians, and Spacers oh my~!
What I'm missing there is how the mutated version of the virus spread among spatially very distant communities of survivors, especially when the means of rapid transport were no longer available.
Oh yeah I remember when this happened, but at least we get 30 Donkey Kong games a year now
I am curious if you're planning on doing Biology of the Minotaur or the harpy at some point.
You know what would be interesting? A video about the BOR-Parasite from Code Vein and how it transforms its hosts into Revenants and/or Lost.
How their physiology and their abilities work.
That would be epic.
Yaaay new potatoes!!!!!
16:31 anyone know the name of the music that starts here?
You should cover the F.E.V virus from fallout.
This is probably too late for you to see, but I’d LOVE if you could do FEV from Fallout
Here goes Dr Zaius giving a lecture on the rise of apes.
"So much so that they moved from sentient, to sapient"
Apes are debatably already sapient animals.
You should tackle David Cronenberg's Scanners in the future . Or the effects on the physical body of astral traveling , or remote viewing .
the simian flu: *tries to destroy my intelligence*
me: *knows you cant destroy what isnt there*
Now I know how it works love this dude❤
Hey though potato you forgot the original co infection study of zombie and vampire part 1
I literally just finished the last movie before the new one, and I see this
Is this in the same universe as your other videos?
I love reading about stuff like the simian flu I’d recommend Planet of the Apes firestorm which actually takes place during the pandemic (not seen video yet)
This is a video I didn't expect, but a welcome one, nonetheless!
Here's hoping we get a Jersey Devil vid sometime!
What happen it you get the werewolf virus and vampire virus and mixed that?
Please do Sasquatch Anatomy PLEASE
What a wonderful day
First off, great video, super entertaining. Second off, 8:37 thats 1.5 mil, not 150 mil. Dont take this as being ungreatful, tho.
This is gonna haunt me
I wonder if there will be the biology of the centuar
Centaurs are chimeric hybrids artificial.
isn't genus pan closer to humans than it is to gorillans and orangutan, so shouldn't it at least have doffrent effects on each ape ? + humans and apes aren't both just primates hominins are also great apes.
True.
How about a look at the Chimera from the Resistance series.
Another day, another request for a Cyberman video
Cybermen begot Borgs.
But wouldn’t making a vaccine or cure be done easily? Since Gensys basically had the entire virus/genome on file
Please I beg you to make a speculative Biology video on The Hulk.
I would really love to hear more about why the virus only affected the great apes, and not other forms of apes or even other simians like monkeys.
One of these days, there's going to be a video titled 'Harpy Biology Explained | The Science of Harpies'
Which harpies? The Harryhausen ones in Jason and the Argonauts or more traditional depictions.
@@randallbesch2424 The more traditional ones where they are more bird-like than bat-like. I would imagine that a biologically accurate harpy would be something like a giant eagle with feathers on its face that eerily resemble a human face.
@ThoughtPotato one last question, when taking requests for creatures for Cryptobiology, is there like a limit to what you’ll consider or do you like the challenge and go as far as possible (because I was gonna ask for something like the Gill-Man/the fish man from Shape of Water or for skinwalkers)
I'm still waiting on the nechromorph biology
Roanoke has covered that.
The fact I avoided Corona and last time I had either Influenza or even Common Cold was 2008 tells me I'd be fine. I'm just built different.
Why would it mess with the vocal areas too? I thought it would just affect the brain? How did the virus gain the ability to change so much?
The virus didn’t directly affect the voc areas, it targeted the same area of the brain that gave the apes the ability to speak, but it took the humans’ ability away
Oh boi, you're talking about this strange series. I've wanted some content on the simian virus for a while since it seemed interesting in the first reboot movie of this series and seemed a little more grounded in reality then the original series, where somehow human achieve time travel years before engineering a retrovirus to treat alzheimers that unintentionally goes viral and increases ape intelligence while killing humans or lowering their intelligence. Bringing up the slight difference in cell structuring and the difference in immune responses between humans and apes is an interesting issue to discuss as it's why primate testing is never 100% reliable for human pharmaceuticals and why viruses that jump from apes or chimps are considerably worse for humans then the original host. That immunological response difference is also why bats are one of the worst species for anything to interact with and some people, at least for a time, unsure if that's changed more recently, thought bats were straight up immune to rabies due to how subdued their immune response is, so inflammation associated with many viruses is greatly reduced or even missing entirely and death from a fatal infection never comes from that side effect but direct cell damage from the invader. On the other hand, overreaction, especially of infections that infect the brain of a creature, causes inflammation that kills an amount of cells before the virus can even reach them and it becomes a two prong issue as the body unintentionally sabotages itself in the middle of the fight. That decreased immune response in the apes in this universe makes sense why it had positive effects, as little or no inflammation from the onset would allow the retrovirus to work without any unnecessary loss of cells, meanwhile in humans I wonder if the issue is doubled due to the virus being coded to promote the growth of new neurons, as it was created to counter a disease that causes the breakdown of old neurons, so that could cause some overcrowding while brain swelling would mash everything together so tight that neurons would be killed far quicker then they could theoretically be replaced. That's just my own personal thoughts though, I'm not a neurologist or biologist, I don't even have a college degree in any subject because school is annoying and too expensive, I just like fish and insects. It's fun to speculate though and it's good to keep learning so thanks for this video
Do the analysis of Sweet Tooth virus
Since your ok with covering mind flayers cover owlbears next!
Fascinating, but also you've been warned, you are a person of interest of the foundation.
Cool video. One thing, humans are apes. Separately referring one from another is like saying dogs and canines, or giraffes and artiodactyls. Theyre not separate things, one is just a member of the named clade you are using as a separate category
Problem, the virus infects orangutans gorillas and chimps, a chimp is more closely related to humans than orangutan, so that isn't a clade
While technically true, humans are actually the last surviving member of a different branch of primates so it's more how chimps and apes are separated, distant cousins rather then close cousins, though it's not out of reach that the difference was made between humans (a species of unusually inelligent distant relative to the ape branch of primates) and the great apes, a closely related species group just because there's a few people out there that get mad if you call humans primates, despite that being their historical evolutionary roots, simply because I've even met people that thought humans weren't mammals. So ig some people think they're androids, but it's really that some people don't know or understand the definitions and how things work on those levels and think anything associated with animal is offensive to humans, as if it's offensive to call oneself a naturally occurring, hyper intelligent creature, which is pretty awesome ngl. Yeah though, calling humans apes isn't 100% correct, though not 100% incorrect either, some people just hate it either way outside of jokes and memes so that could play into it, though I legit don't know the exact reasoning unless Thought Potato decides to answer themself. My guess though is because humans are only distantly related to apes and have distinct features and different enough biology to be recognized as different groups, like how hyenas are neither dog nor cat, they've got similarities to both but are just too functionally different and their reproduction follows neither species group, so you could technically call them cats or dogs based on select features, but genetically they've either moved too far away from both or never converged into either category. Not that I'm personally opposed to calling humans apes though, I don't care, I just find the relations interesting enough to talk about on rare occasion because it also brings up the question of how different must a species evolve to be to be defined as a new species, and that's kinda neat and something I especially wonder about with domesticated animals
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Humans are great apes. All primates that are a part of the taxonomic family Hominidae (Great Ape Family) such as humans,chimps,and gorillas are great apes.
Can you do a video on the Succubus
Sussy baka
In college, I had a professor in philosophy deny that apes coukd sign or use computers yo communicate, my cognitive psych professor laughed at him while sitting in his class
Your philosophy teacher is right. Apes cannot sign as they lack the dexterity man has.
Coco could never sign. All she did was do some gestures and her care givers would assign random meaning to them
They do communicate with eachother and the best we can do is figure out what their body language means
@kingpotato7183 funny, how my professor who worked with KoKo, Washoe and Nim and others said otherwise, who to believe...such a quandry
@kingpotato7183 BTW, this was the same philosophy professor that freaked out over Riverworld, ripping it from a students hands , it was an English assignment
@@kingpotato7183 funny how KoKo formed.new signs, right,
@@stefanjakubowski8222 funny how bro believes in koko propaganda 🤣 😂
The entire koko thing became a cult
You actually believe that ape with big meaty hands which have the same dexterity of a muppet is able to sign an entire discourse about saving the planet 🤣🤣🤣
In one video her caregiver translates one word and the care giver says she meant another word which rhymes with the word she just translated.
Sign language doesn't work like that. Some words might rhyme when spoken. But in sign language they have drastically different signs.
Also they barely had any people who actually knew sign language on the team. And the ASL experts they did have they barely listened to them.
At the end the ASL guys left and the scientists were teaching koko sign language. Scientists who have 0 experience with sign language and don't really understand how it works.
So how could these scientists even tell she invented new signs? Very curious indeed.
When will you do the banshee?