@@kingdeedee oh thank you,didn't know about it. Edit: can I purchase apple care after 2 years of getting the phone? Also my question was how he managed to take care of his battery after 3 years. That's the point.
@@alii2284 nah I believe you have to get Apple care within the first 30 days. But getting apple care 2 years after buying the phone would be a waste of money imo. A battery replacement would cost way less than the $200 to get apple care. It would probably even be a better idea to put the money toward a new phone altogether as well
I have Lenovo from 2011, put a new SSD in it, and runs better than in 2011. My opinion is that Apple products are overrated and overpriced. But that is just my opinion, I've had iPhone 3G on release, in about 2 months 1 drop of water killed my phone. That was it for me and Apple, Nokia would've holding Samsung and Apple's position today If they had a better strategy and CEO.
@@smarinovic390 And an iPhone still will get 5+ years of updates. I see here the main point. Oh and yes it’s pity thing with Nokia, absolutely loved their phones.
Yeah its funny thing how Samsung 15 years ago was a funny phone comparing to Nokia ( like no name today ), Apple didnt even had a phone. They really messed it up, they were leaders on mobile market for years, and let everything go in a blink of a eye.
@@rayray117 apple products do go on sale tho. I bought a brand new M1 Mac Mini for $640 from Amazon. And Costco has been selling them for $599 for the past month or so. MSRP of M1 Mac Mini is $699. Student discount for m1 mac mini is $679 i believe.
Thank you for adding captions to your video! I'm not hard of hearing but I sometimes can't make out what someone's saying, and auto-captions NEVER cut it for that. I think every TH-camr should add captions, but sadly, most don't.
What they did, and with a success, was to introduce the SE series as an "economy" class that snatched a portion of the market they would have gotten with a lower price. Masterful.
That’s how the won me over! I honestly never faced any of the inconveniences people talk about with Android because I stuck with Samsung for years so my favorite apps and services transferred easily from phone to phone. The thing is even nice Androids break so easily I stopped buying nice ones and just got budget phones instead until AT&T ruined my service so horribly I had to switch to Verizon. Got a free SE and was HOOKED. I’m a huge fan of the design philosophy of iPhone. I personally do NOT believe their products of overpriced because they work and continue to do so for years
Yeah, and SE uses design from several years back, meaning lots of the R&D have been recouped. SE is like Apple snatching fish that would otherwise go to Android. It doesn't matter to their core audience because the design of the phone looks outdated. I'd expect the next SE to be iPhone X style.
@@Kryptictails Nope, the iPhone sells well enough to not justify lowering the price. Lowering the price wouldn’t make it sell well enough to make the same amount of profit
That's why I was disappointed when Google priced the Pixel phones at $649 and $749. They're not in the position to price it that high. When I moved to the U.S., I looked for a used Pixel 2, and found one in mint condition for $130. That was a good deal considering how well it still works in 2020. It's great that Google sells the Pixel 3a and 4a at $349, they now know their position in the market. A great value.
To be fair, Apple's hardware is most often very high quality and their OS is optimized along with it, so when purchasing their device it is more of an investment you expect to pay off over years. I had a 2009 iMac that lasted me until 2017 and I gave that away when I started switching more towards the 2016 Macbook & Macbook Pro that I am still heavily using to this day (will get the M series to replace them soon) I had a 2014 Macbook Pro base model that I accidently spilled water on that seeped into the board...the machine lasted me until 2017 when I gave it away to relatives as I was already on the new 2016 Macbooks I still have a working iPhone 3G, and my iPhone 7 Plus last me until 2020 when the screen finally stopped working after hundreds of cracks and drops over the years. Still have an Apple Watch Gen 2. Still have a 2013 Apple TV (which admittedly haven't used in 3 years)
Makes perfect sense! And if you consider your brand a top brand or a luxury brand, you really don't lower prices. How many sales do you see of Ferraris, Lamborghinis and so on?
@@mrkring1526 … you may find this interesting: Veblen good defined: 📺 th-cam.com/video/56TIQ1rcHek/w-d-xo.html (2 minute video | Investopedia) ⬆️ Veblen goods are considered to be desirable for conspicuous consumption because of, rather than in spite of, their high prices: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good ⬆️ Conspicuous consumption is rooted in evolutionary psychology. …Scott Galloway, who is a marketing professor at NYU, succinctly described the underlying evolutionary psychology that makes Apple’s products alluring: 📺 th-cam.com/video/r5LM4wsH0k0/w-d-xo.html (1 minute video w/ Scott Galloway)
@@joebloggs4191 there’s still devices like the xr the 12 mini the se the Mac mini etc that are prices really competitively but you don’t see ferrari making a 12 thousand dollar car
@@joebloggs4191 not really, if Apple was luxurious they wouldn’t take away features from their products that people have been using for years, and also forcing those people to buy stupid ass dongles and adapters to get those features back
we've recently had sales for the current gen (12) phones, although before this sale (and before pandemic), they only become discounted after a new iphone launches. still much more expensive than US prices though (i live in PH).
I live in India and here the iPhone 12 pro is so expensive that if u fly to Dubai buy the phone and fly back here It's less than apples asking price in India
Simple, There's no official Apple Store in the Philippines, Yes! There is alot of Apple Store in the Philippines but it was a Retail Store like Power Mac Center. Some of Mobile Store like MemoExpress or Widget City gives Sale for this phones if the new gen is released.
I think you might be mixing launch pricing policy with discount policy. What you’re talking about here is how they have spiked their price over the years, but that’s something that other companies have been doing too. In fact, the first major smartphone that crossed the psychological line of what would you pay for a smartphone was the galaxy s8. Both companies noticed saturation so they resorted to shifting the market by increasing hardware features and price to increase margins. Besides, we’ve seen Apple being more aggressive with their pricing and lowering it some years. The main difference with their competitors is that you can’t expect to buy a 11 month old Apple product cheaper than at launch. By contrast, you can easily get a +200 bucks discount for a 5 month old Samsung flagship. My own guess is that Apple doesn’t want to devalue their products, since once many consumers realize that older devices get discounts, they decide to wait a bit and get them cheaper. That’s what I do with my android smartphones. So, if you want an Apple know that you’ll pay pretty much the same during launch date or just before the newer model appears. I assume that this may cause sudden spikes of sales at launch, and much lower sales on the later months, since buyers will pay full price for a product that will be renewed shortly. But I guess they’d be probably ok with this. Another company that does that is Nintendo, which is infamous for selling 4 yo games at full price, unlike other publishers. Both companies have very strong loyal fan bases so I guess this could help.
@@gokultn72 Yes, but you'll never see iphones discounted before a new model launches. Of course they must lower the price of an iPhone 13 or else nobody would buy it if it was the same price as the 15. While androids often lower their price merely months after launch. I do think that buying a previous gen iPhone is a better deal I agree with you
I think they’ve hit a market cap in many markets. Besides, they have other strategies to get new costumers or retain old ones, like the SE phones or older models at discounted prices. They just refuse to lower the price of a new model, keeping all prices stable for an entire year.
@@jmiquelmb 2 years late and I just want to add some points, apple use its dominance to make even hard to anything but they products to exist, they stated by making the younger population of developed countries think you aren't cool if you use anything than they products (in poor countries they just sell then as the brand of riches), after that by being extremely closed in they own ecosystem they made that people indirectly force they social circle to move to apple too or you can't have a good social interaction online (ex: USA blue vs green bubble), that with the fact USA "banned" chinese phones from the west (US x China sanctions did hurt chinese brands a lot) and Samsung trying everything to look like a worse iPhone, they took control over most people under 30yo around the world and now they are just like windows on PC, unless they do something really insanely bad they will sit at top for a really long time, maybe they will never fall. obs: not saying they products are bad, but point out that performance is kind irrelevant for why they dominated the world.
I’ve own iPhones since 2012 and each usually last 4 year minimum because the Apple store replaced by battery for free every 18months even when out of warranty, in addition to iOS updates. The iPhone is expensive because they are getting you to pre paid for after sales service. And they are keeping me in the eco system to potentially earn more from services.
Considering that my iPhone is always with me, and thinking about how often I use it… how crucial it actually is, I dont think the price is that bad honestly… I paid more for my TV, which only sits at home, and that I dont even use every day.. My iPhone will still receive updates after 4-5 years. Idk, it’s more expensive than it used to be, but it’s still not that bad
Apple themselves directly never put anything on sale expect gift cards. However, carriers even in the US constantly put iPhones on sale. Either by trade in or sign ups
Good point. Thanks Greg! Now we just have to wait a year or two for the Apple products to go 'old' and hopefully have those $50 - $100 discount or so from Amazon or B&H.
Or buy an older refurbished model. The iPhone xr 128gb was $800 when it came out over 2 years ago. Now if you buy it refurbished from Apple, it's $470. Big difference.
@@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Yep. And they are actually refurbished. Basically brand new. New battery, new shell etc... unlike the ones from private sellers or Amazon.
@@user-fxw6k7da4 And an official warranty. On top of getting a brand new iPhone on the cheaper end, if anything does go wrong, you can send it back or get help with the device(especially because this is Apple we're talking about). Do the same thing with some random eBay seller, and they'll most likely tell you to screw off.
I love iOS, but can’t afford the latest phone so I just buy 1-2 generations behind. That way I don’t spend too much, plus I’ll get Apple’s full iOS updates for years to come.
Also helps that phones, not just iPhones, are usually paid for over a 2 year contract. So when that $800 phone turns into a $1000 phone, it’s really only a couple bucks more per month, which is worth it to most people if it means staying with the phone brand you like.
whats with tha background music? i feel like this is some sad scene in ah movie. please go back tah tha old background music. it was so upbeat and catchy
Verizon offers the previous iPhone models at a slightly lower price when the newer models are released, or they’re offering various deals. I know a lot of US carriers have also been giving 30 months for a customer to pay off the higher price iPhones as well.
Not only carriers, even the Apple Store offers discounts for older models, and payment plans. They even show the renewed pricing of their entire lineup during their keynotes. If you do some research you’ll see that most of the times they offer phones from 400 to 1200 bucks, reaching a wide costumer base. That’s their price policy to reach different consumer profiles. What they refuse to do is to lower their prices more than once a year. I assume they want to keep a consistent price to avoid devaluing their products too much.
I work at Vodafone, the GP (general profit) from an iPhone 13 is like 40 bucks, compared to a Samsung which gp is 200 dollars, Vodafone puts Samsung on sale way more because any significant discount on iPhone would make us lose money
I pay cash for my iPhone every year. I wait for the release and then in December I sell my old iPhone like the iPhone 11 for about $500-$550 and then just pay the difference which by December you can go to Swappa and buy the iPhone 12 for about $600-$650 so I only have to add $100.00 and that's better than making the idiotic monthly payments.
I worked for a major retailer and you could not put Apple products on sale because you would lose money the price we paid Apple was so high the only money to be made was in accessories.
Wait i just googled .. And there are a lot of sales by Apple in the past and yearly events. Black friday , back to school programs etc.... In India , the Apple store there gave away free ipod with every iphone .
@@difflam74 Thanks for answering. I know there are quite a few deals from 3rd parties, such as Costco, Bestbuy, etc, especially during big sale events (e.g. black friday) but i don't recall seeing one from Apple themselves. Granted, maybe it's just me who don't remember seeing it.
@@mapl3mage No worries. But if you are trying to get a mac , i would advise not to right now. Especially with the M1 chip . Look at the refurbished section. So many return on the M1 chip computers. Too many bad design choices for mac . wait at least for the 3rd iteration.
Fun Fact: In my country (Botswana) it costs less to take a flight to NYC, USA ($900), buy the latest iPhone ($699) and back again. Right now 10/10/2021, the iPhone 11 Pro Max 64GB is $2,200 and the 256GB version is going for $2,900... So yea.. we get some 'Sales' here but I've never bought an iPhone locally. Annoying thing is Shipping services are notoriously slow average 4-6 weeks for a package from USA.
I have the 12 Pro Max but I would like to see Apple do a line of SE style phones. Not just the SE first Gen, and SE second Gen but a line up of budget friendly phones. My daughter is 18, I got her the XR but it would be cool to be able to afford the latest chipset and of course compromise on size and features but at a price I can afford. Does that make sense? I don’t know maybe it’s just me 🤷🏻♀️
Things change when it comes to India. It's hard to get customers in this country. Even Amazon had to come up with 'Pay on Delivery' model to compete. Recently, iPhone went on sale for upto 30% price cut. While Apple didn't do it officially on their website but they offered free Airpods with iPhone purchase. Similarly they offered cashback on loading money to Apple pay. Strange for a company like Apple to do this marketing tricks. But results are here as well. Apple India saw 70% YoY growth in revenue than last year.
An additional reason I can think of is that psychologically, when an item is discounted, its value diminishes in the mind of the potential customer. And Apple would never diminishes the value of their products. That’s why the prices tags, in the Apple stores are always very discreet, that is in order to not make the price a selling point. The luxury industry uses the same price tags format if you ever notice
right now where I live the iphone 12 pro max 256 is arround $1700 while the s21 ultra 256 is arround $1150. And for used phones the iphone 11 pro max costs twice the price of the s20 ultra... I have a lot of dishes to wash and I'm just procrastination by typing this pointless comment. God I hate doing the dishes.
Great. Then don't buy an iPhone. Plenty of cheaper good products out there if you like or are confortable with an Android and getting updates for a very limited or even less amount of time. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
The iPhone that is always on sale: iPhone SE. I simply don’t see the point of any other iPhone. Also not a chance that I will use their trade in program since I can get much more money for it online
i turned off the volume & forgot to turn on the caption while watching this because my kid is sleeping. I thought the beginning of the video is samsung ads 🤣🤣🤣
in india, base iPhone SE2 is $499 compared to $399 for 64gb in USA. For 128gb, its $599 compared to $499 in USA. See, a $100 jump in price tag for this item even though it is "MADE IN INDIA" (written on the package itself). Anyway, it bought in Flipkart Big Billion Days which gave me discounted price at $499 for 128gb (which should be before the discounted price tag), it's a nice decent phone. Happy customer !! What a irony, we have to assume we got lucky because of discount, where all they did is sold the product for the original price.
It's nice that Apple has given us customers a great variety of options for iPhones. They can still sell the highest end $1,000 iPhones with their Pro models - have average customers get flagship power in the middle at $700 - $800 for the regular iPhones - and for the budget entry is the SE at an affordable $399.
About a week ago, Apple products in my country have huge sales including the iPhone 12 lineup. They cut the price up to 30% and it is actually pretty cool that some people could finally purchase it. Even older models like XR are considered cheaper than the SE 2020.
An exemption to this is the philippines they do go on sale 1-2 months before the new model comes, probably because these are sold by so called premium resellers
Pretty much this. My brothers and I opened our own family plan a couple years ago and at the time Verizon had a promotion where the iPhone 10 was buy one get one free for new family accounts. Apple themselves may never have their products on sales in their stores but carriers have promotional deals all the time.
@@ptrckwyn The hardware advantage Apple owns the processor development of the chip that no one else has access to in addition to the software. . Their latest model always out performs any competition with very tight integration to iOS. The rest use off the self stuff and make it work with Android
@@johniii8147 exactly. Snapdragon is no slouch. But because iOS is very optimitized on their chip that's why it performs so well. So it's still the software.
Not quite. They only do a price readjustment when the newer models are released. Otherwise, you would have an outdated model priced the same as a new model and it would confuse the hell out of customers. Having an actual sale would be taking the current product and slashing the price.
@@jon-erich9752 To add on to what you said, it’s because they begin to not care about older products. For example, I bought the iPhone XR for its full price back in 2018. Now it’s much less expensive.
Well, I live in Lithuania and we have Apple products discounts at official Apple products retailers. Often they make discounts for students and sometimes they make discounts for Macs, Airpods and iPads. But yeah, I never saw discounts for example, in US 😀
But in Apple Malaysia, we will always got a big discount on Chinese New Year, Hari Raya and Deepavali. And also, we will got a small discount on new iphone releases.
Apple has won people's mindset since the very beginning. Thanks to Steve Jobs. And, that legacy is still carried on. Only time will tell when the people reach the turning point.
My grandparents refuse to upgrade they're I phones because they're expensive as hell wait about 2 or 3 years before upgrading from any company not just apple
That’s the carrier discounting not Apple. Appolo still get the same amount of money for the phone it’s the carrier taking a hit to lock you into a contract
We gets sales but not directly from apple but from Amazon and Flipkart (amazon competitor) idk why but most likely because the base variant of a iphone cost around 1000 dollars here in India because of taxes and we get 100 to 200 dollars if you are lucky
I'm not convinced by your analysis. You say they'd never lower the price of the iPhone after the X in 2017 which went for 1000$ to retain profit margins, yet the year after they released a 749$ iPhone Xr and after that a 699$ iPhone 11. Last year, they dropped a 399$ iPhone. Those phones combined consist of the vast majority of their sales. And it is very obvious that Apple tries to extend the longevity of their devices and incentivises people to hold on to their iPhones: 5+ year software support, old iPhones run still very smoothly even after 4-5 years, very aggressive battery health management. Hence I am not convinced that their main goal at this point are hardware sales. If that were truly the case, they would go the android route which is try to bring the most bleeding edge tech but make phones obsolete or outdated just a few months after release, hoping customers upgrade more frequently. Apple tries to create the image that their phones are very robust and people who care about device longevity will buy iPhone again, and second, the longer people use an iPhone, the more likely they are to get locked in the ecosystem, buy an iPad/Mac/Watch/TV and spend money on the Appstore and on iCould. So basically, I don't think this video truly explains what is going on here
The only way how you could get an iPhone on sale is if you wait at least a year when a new generation iPhone launches, then the next year when the next generation iPhone launches, you can then buy that iPhone for almost half off on sites like eBay. You may can also get an agreement deal with your carrier that they may offer you an iPhone at a discounted price
Globally Apple has just 17% share of the market in units. In Europe it is about 1/3. In India they are included in the "others". Base d on OS the have 4% share. You can get iPhones cheaper now if you buy older models.
Coming from a former Android User, you're accurate, Older Models of iPhones is still on sale (E.g XR and 11) until now (2021) unlike Older Models of Android Phones is disappeared like a bubble.
I'm willing to pay extra for not having my data sold to other third party and advertisers. so yes, I bought an iPhone 11 pro last year and getting rid of all the google account associations in a phased manner Also a macbook air M1 this year I hate ads and being sold.
that's a really dumb logic made by Apple haters. You can dislike a company's product from one division, and enjoy the products from another division. By the same token, you can, for example, like the iPhone line but hate the Mac. I guess that must be mind-blowing to you, huh?
@Namir Deshmukh Hardware profit at the end of the day, so why cutting on that area ? It's better for them to sell less units. It's simple as that. It's an hardware company and they make profit with that.
I bought iPhone 11 for ₹45,499 via Flipkart on “Mobile Bonanza” on April 7 2021. Believe me, Apple offered u free (so called) AirPod on iPhone 11 at priced ₹60,000+ 🤣 (₹15,000) more than I got. That’s AirPod price.
There are a lot behind the sale. Normally you only get on sale products from last years product. If you visit China’s Huawiangbei you will know why. I can’t talk too much online. Just go visit Shenzhen’s Huawiangbei.
When you position your product as a luxury good, you dare not discount it.
though iPhones can easily be used for over 3-4 years with just battery swapping once
@@overkilljames2010 don't consider buying something that doesn't exist yet
who knows if 120hz will be added
it was rumored to be in 12, and it isn't
@@kingdeedee oh thank you,didn't know about it.
Edit: can I purchase apple care after 2 years of getting the phone?
Also my question was how he managed to take care of his battery after 3 years. That's the point.
@@alii2284 nah I believe you have to get Apple care within the first 30 days. But getting apple care 2 years after buying the phone would be a waste of money imo. A battery replacement would cost way less than the $200 to get apple care. It would probably even be a better idea to put the money toward a new phone altogether as well
@@kingdeedee I thought appleCare+ is only $9.99 / month and $180 (i gess) for 24 month !
If you use your iPhone for 4 to 5 Years (Amazing Update Policy), then the price is not that high imo.
2010 Macbook Air user here. Couldn't agree more.
I have Lenovo from 2011, put a new SSD in it, and runs better than in 2011. My opinion is that Apple products are overrated and overpriced. But that is just my opinion, I've had iPhone 3G on release, in about 2 months 1 drop of water killed my phone. That was it for me and Apple, Nokia would've holding Samsung and Apple's position today If they had a better strategy and CEO.
@@smarinovic390 I also have WIntels from 2000's, also replaced some with SSD. Yes they are functional and you will get what you pay for. Or even less.
@@smarinovic390 And an iPhone still will get 5+ years of updates. I see here the main point. Oh and yes it’s pity thing with Nokia, absolutely loved their phones.
Yeah its funny thing how Samsung 15 years ago was a funny phone comparing to Nokia ( like no name today ), Apple didnt even had a phone.
They really messed it up, they were leaders on mobile market for years, and let everything go in a blink of a eye.
I just realised after a decade. I never seen apple products on sale lol
You can get discount on macs and ipads by being a college student.
Actually, isn’t there also normal discounts on Macbooks right now?
@@dekomoon1741 discount for students is different then ‘on sale’ or ‘half price’ offers.
@@rayray117 apple products do go on sale tho. I bought a brand new M1 Mac Mini for $640 from Amazon. And Costco has been selling them for $599 for the past month or so. MSRP of M1 Mac Mini is $699. Student discount for m1 mac mini is $679 i believe.
About 5 years ago Apple had a Black Friday and some discount was offered
Same
Thank you for adding captions to your video! I'm not hard of hearing but I sometimes can't make out what someone's saying, and auto-captions NEVER cut it for that. I think every TH-camr should add captions, but sadly, most don't.
It takes time and days if they do that, just like how you put captions on your video editing software
Wa-wait, at least I should make quality content and then add captions
I’m not hard of hearing but for some reason I always read the captions and a lot of the time if they aren’t there I just click off the video
I'm half deaf in both ears and hate captions
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What they did, and with a success, was to introduce the SE series as an "economy" class that snatched a portion of the market they would have gotten with a lower price. Masterful.
That’s how the won me over! I honestly never faced any of the inconveniences people talk about with Android because I stuck with Samsung for years so my favorite apps and services transferred easily from phone to phone. The thing is even nice Androids break so easily I stopped buying nice ones and just got budget phones instead until AT&T ruined my service so horribly I had to switch to Verizon. Got a free SE and was HOOKED. I’m a huge fan of the design philosophy of iPhone. I personally do NOT believe their products of overpriced because they work and continue to do so for years
@@malaquiasalfaro81 Yeah, I'd love to get my first iPhone in the future
@@JustinObi54 Did you?
@@thecapone45 Not yet, still working on it
Yeah, and SE uses design from several years back, meaning lots of the R&D have been recouped. SE is like Apple snatching fish that would otherwise go to Android. It doesn't matter to their core audience because the design of the phone looks outdated. I'd expect the next SE to be iPhone X style.
Same reason why Rolex, Omega, LV and Polo by Ralph Lauren are never on sale. They hold their luxury status.
Polo by Ralph Lauren goes on sale all the time. What the fuck are you talking about.
@@darth_kal-el Wrong, they sell their unsold items to tj Maxx, Ross or outlets.
Ralph lauren isn't luxurious at all lol. It's overrated and overhyped by normies
@@Wade_Fucking_Wilson That’s about everysingle luxury brand lol
@@evilspock4714 wrong - Polo is not Luxury you fool
Perceived value and Brand loyalty also plays a big part in how they can continue to push the boundaries of sale prices imo.
yea, but at the same time their cheapest model costs less than the origional iphone, and much less when you consider inflation.
This video could have had a dark twist, but I love how Greg just explains the facts. Thanks for making such great content. 🙏🏻
Just so you know that emoji at the end is a high five
@@16games71 just so you know it’s putting your two hands together
@@holyaubergine do you have an iPhone or android
@@16games71 Emojis follow unicode, and thats is the unicode name, but I primarily use an iPhone
@@holyaubergine nope, that’s a high five. That doesn’t matter. What matters is that I agree with you
I’m amazed at how well-made these videos consistently are!
Let me guess: Because they sell well enough already
watch the video
@@robertcamargo9289 I did. That was my guess before watching the video and I wasn’t that off 😂
@@anianii Nah you are very off
@@Kryptictails Nope, the iPhone sells well enough to not justify lowering the price. Lowering the price wouldn’t make it sell well enough to make the same amount of profit
@@Kryptictails it was a good guess though
That's why I was disappointed when Google priced the Pixel phones at $649 and $749. They're not in the position to price it that high. When I moved to the U.S., I looked for a used Pixel 2, and found one in mint condition for $130. That was a good deal considering how well it still works in 2020.
It's great that Google sells the Pixel 3a and 4a at $349, they now know their position in the market. A great value.
Pixel 6 and 7 are $599.
I went on this video steight as the notification came up
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@@ratanasorn8080 straight
I just wait until someone regrets their iPhone purchase so I can get at a major discount on Facebook marketplace a week later😂😂
@Apple Explained you are getting reported
@Unknown entity I regret buying a 12 PM
You’d be surprised how many people get 2 iPhones for Christmas or their birthday.
+1
@ why???
I’m still using iphone 6s. Bought early 2016. Will think of a new when updates stops. ✌🏻
I bought a 6S in 2019, just for the headphone jack.
When updates cripple your phone. thats a fact.
@@brochdk4712 ??
My first iPhone is a 6s+ bought in 2020.
Title : Why do iPhones never go on sale?
Me, who's already seen the thumbnail : I think we already know the answer
Greedinessssss!!!!
@@xXAnni3LuvsYhuXx no because people are ready to pay more😂, just being greedy dose not make profit, you got to study the market 😁
To be fair, Apple's hardware is most often very high quality and their OS is optimized along with it, so when purchasing their device it is more of an investment you expect to pay off over years.
I had a 2009 iMac that lasted me until 2017 and I gave that away when I started switching more towards the 2016 Macbook & Macbook Pro that I am still heavily using to this day (will get the M series to replace them soon)
I had a 2014 Macbook Pro base model that I accidently spilled water on that seeped into the board...the machine lasted me until 2017 when I gave it away to relatives as I was already on the new 2016 Macbooks
I still have a working iPhone 3G, and my iPhone 7 Plus last me until 2020 when the screen finally stopped working after hundreds of cracks and drops over the years.
Still have an Apple Watch Gen 2.
Still have a 2013 Apple TV (which admittedly haven't used in 3 years)
Makes perfect sense! And if you consider your brand a top brand or a luxury brand, you really don't lower prices. How many sales do you see of Ferraris, Lamborghinis and so on?
But Apple ain't a luxury brand
@@mrkring1526 … you may find this interesting:
Veblen good defined:
📺 th-cam.com/video/56TIQ1rcHek/w-d-xo.html
(2 minute video | Investopedia)
⬆️ Veblen goods are considered to be desirable for conspicuous consumption because of, rather than in spite of, their high prices:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
⬆️ Conspicuous consumption is rooted in evolutionary psychology. …Scott Galloway, who is a marketing professor at NYU, succinctly described the underlying evolutionary psychology that makes Apple’s products alluring:
📺 th-cam.com/video/r5LM4wsH0k0/w-d-xo.html
(1 minute video w/ Scott Galloway)
@@mrkring1526 Yes it is!
@@joebloggs4191 there’s still devices like the xr the 12 mini the se the Mac mini etc that are prices really competitively but you don’t see ferrari making a 12 thousand dollar car
@@joebloggs4191 not really, if Apple was luxurious they wouldn’t take away features from their products that people have been using for years, and also forcing those people to buy stupid ass dongles and adapters to get those features back
Thanks for the excellent video, Greg!
Seems about right. The only time I've gotten an iPhone at lower price was via phone trade in or refurb purchase.
we've recently had sales for the current gen (12) phones, although before this sale (and before pandemic), they only become discounted after a new iphone launches. still much more expensive than US prices though (i live in PH).
I live in India and here the iPhone 12 pro is so expensive that if u fly to Dubai buy the phone and fly back here
It's less than apples asking price in India
Simple, There's no official Apple Store in the Philippines, Yes! There is alot of Apple Store in the Philippines but it was a Retail Store like Power Mac Center. Some of Mobile Store like MemoExpress or Widget City gives Sale for this phones if the new gen is released.
@@NewRepublicMapper ya but India has an online apple store
@@superior7387 That's nice, and wait, i heard that you have a Diwali Sale last Year Right?
@@NewRepublicMapper no just some small offers but BC of taxes the cost is crazy high
Read what I wrote first that would put it to perspective
I think you might be mixing launch pricing policy with discount policy. What you’re talking about here is how they have spiked their price over the years, but that’s something that other companies have been doing too. In fact, the first major smartphone that crossed the psychological line of what would you pay for a smartphone was the galaxy s8. Both companies noticed saturation so they resorted to shifting the market by increasing hardware features and price to increase margins. Besides, we’ve seen Apple being more aggressive with their pricing and lowering it some years.
The main difference with their competitors is that you can’t expect to buy a 11 month old Apple product cheaper than at launch. By contrast, you can easily get a +200 bucks discount for a 5 month old Samsung flagship. My own guess is that Apple doesn’t want to devalue their products, since once many consumers realize that older devices get discounts, they decide to wait a bit and get them cheaper. That’s what I do with my android smartphones. So, if you want an Apple know that you’ll pay pretty much the same during launch date or just before the newer model appears. I assume that this may cause sudden spikes of sales at launch, and much lower sales on the later months, since buyers will pay full price for a product that will be renewed shortly. But I guess they’d be probably ok with this. Another company that does that is Nintendo, which is infamous for selling 4 yo games at full price, unlike other publishers. Both companies have very strong loyal fan bases so I guess this could help.
iPhones which are 3 or 2 gens older can be bought for a nice discount but still the hardware is OP.
@@gokultn72 Yes, but you'll never see iphones discounted before a new model launches. Of course they must lower the price of an iPhone 13 or else nobody would buy it if it was the same price as the 15. While androids often lower their price merely months after launch. I do think that buying a previous gen iPhone is a better deal I agree with you
55 views + 50 likes = good fans
We r more than fans.. We r friends 💚
@@AbdulAziz4CaNaDa I mean, you and Greg don't know much about each other, so you're probably still defined as fans. Loyal fans.
@@CybernerdShua lol whoosh
@@TamilEelam1 No, I understood it. And wooosh, not whoosh. If you're going to take a crack at me, do it right.
@@AbdulAziz4CaNaDa انت عربي
So this means Apple wasn't at all interested to make new customers, it waz just interested in maintaining the old ones
I think they’ve hit a market cap in many markets. Besides, they have other strategies to get new costumers or retain old ones, like the SE phones or older models at discounted prices. They just refuse to lower the price of a new model, keeping all prices stable for an entire year.
@@jmiquelmb 2 years late and I just want to add some points, apple use its dominance to make even hard to anything but they products to exist, they stated by making the younger population of developed countries think you aren't cool if you use anything than they products (in poor countries they just sell then as the brand of riches), after that by being extremely closed in they own ecosystem they made that people indirectly force they social circle to move to apple too or you can't have a good social interaction online (ex: USA blue vs green bubble), that with the fact USA "banned" chinese phones from the west (US x China sanctions did hurt chinese brands a lot) and Samsung trying everything to look like a worse iPhone, they took control over most people under 30yo around the world and now they are just like windows on PC, unless they do something really insanely bad they will sit at top for a really long time, maybe they will never fall.
obs: not saying they products are bad, but point out that performance is kind irrelevant for why they dominated the world.
I dont have an iphone, but im hooked on these videos 😅
Update, my iphone came yesterday!!
I’ve own iPhones since 2012 and each usually last 4 year minimum because the Apple store replaced by battery for free every 18months even when out of warranty, in addition to iOS updates. The iPhone is expensive because they are getting you to pre paid for after sales service. And they are keeping me in the eco system to potentially earn more from services.
Great content, Greg. For your next topic can you please explain why apple remained intransigent in restricting repairs by third party?
They make a lot of money on repairs and by making repairs very expensive , they encourage the consumers to just buy a new Apple product.
Man, I’m absolutely loving this content that you’re putting out, Greg.
Keep up the good work!
Considering that my iPhone is always with me, and thinking about how often I use it… how crucial it actually is, I dont think the price is that bad honestly… I paid more for my TV, which only sits at home, and that I dont even use every day.. My iPhone will still receive updates after 4-5 years. Idk, it’s more expensive than it used to be, but it’s still not that bad
That is the beauty of second hand market websites!!!
Apple themselves directly never put anything on sale expect gift cards. However, carriers even in the US constantly put iPhones on sale. Either by trade in or sign ups
Good point. Thanks Greg! Now we just have to wait a year or two for the Apple products to go 'old' and hopefully have those $50 - $100 discount or so from Amazon or B&H.
Earn from the comfort of your home
+ 1 =7 =3 =1 =2 =4 =1 =0 =3 =3 =7
Or buy an older refurbished model. The iPhone xr 128gb was $800 when it came out over 2 years ago. Now if you buy it refurbished from Apple, it's $470. Big difference.
@@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Yep. And they are actually refurbished. Basically brand new. New battery, new shell etc... unlike the ones from private sellers or Amazon.
@@user-fxw6k7da4 And an official warranty. On top of getting a brand new iPhone on the cheaper end, if anything does go wrong, you can send it back or get help with the device(especially because this is Apple we're talking about). Do the same thing with some random eBay seller, and they'll most likely tell you to screw off.
I love iOS, but can’t afford the latest phone so I just buy 1-2 generations behind. That way I don’t spend too much, plus I’ll get Apple’s full iOS updates for years to come.
Also helps that phones, not just iPhones, are usually paid for over a 2 year contract. So when that $800 phone turns into a $1000 phone, it’s really only a couple bucks more per month, which is worth it to most people if it means staying with the phone brand you like.
You guys still use contracts? Is it 2011 again
@@mgraham0160 facts, when you pay on contract the phone isn’t even really yours till you pay it off and I can’t stand that feeling
Luxury goods like Canada Goose and LV never go on sale for the same reason. It was never about being the most accessible but prestige.
Although Apple isn't a luxury product...
@@mrkring1526 Regardless of whether they are or not, thats how they want to be perceived.
whats with tha background music? i feel like this is some sad scene in ah movie. please go back tah tha old background music. it was so upbeat and catchy
Verizon offers the previous iPhone models at a slightly lower price when the newer models are released, or they’re offering various deals. I know a lot of US carriers have also been giving 30 months for a customer to pay off the higher price iPhones as well.
Not only carriers, even the Apple Store offers discounts for older models, and payment plans. They even show the renewed pricing of their entire lineup during their keynotes. If you do some research you’ll see that most of the times they offer phones from 400 to 1200 bucks, reaching a wide costumer base. That’s their price policy to reach different consumer profiles. What they refuse to do is to lower their prices more than once a year. I assume they want to keep a consistent price to avoid devaluing their products too much.
again nice explaind!! Thank you Greg 😊👍
I work at Vodafone, the GP (general profit) from an iPhone 13 is like 40 bucks, compared to a Samsung which gp is 200 dollars, Vodafone puts Samsung on sale way more because any significant discount on iPhone would make us lose money
The best channel when it comes to Apple products. Respect ✊!!!
Great video!!!
I pay cash for my iPhone every year. I wait for the release and then in December I sell my old iPhone like the iPhone 11 for about $500-$550 and then just pay the difference which by December you can go to Swappa and buy the iPhone 12 for about $600-$650 so I only have to add $100.00 and that's better than making the idiotic monthly payments.
It's idiotic to buy a new phone every year.
We love Apple Music lossless quality and spatial audio surround sound.
Biggest growth strategy is ever year they say : Worlds best camera 🤣😂😂
No, it’s happening in Korea quite regularly, I got 10% discount for iPhones 13 after 3 months from release date
Legit showed an android phone listed as "for parts, not working" lol
I worked for a major retailer and you could not put Apple products on sale because you would lose money the price we paid Apple was so high the only money to be made was in accessories.
Wait i just googled ..
And there are a lot of sales by Apple in the past and yearly events.
Black friday , back to school programs etc....
In India , the Apple store there gave away free ipod with every iphone .
by Apple or by third-party retailers? Because that's two different things.
@@mapl3mage By Apple actually ...and third party .
Ever heard of back to school programs?
Sales for veterans ? Sales for teachers and students?
@@difflam74 Thanks for answering. I know there are quite a few deals from 3rd parties, such as Costco, Bestbuy, etc, especially during big sale events (e.g. black friday) but i don't recall seeing one from Apple themselves. Granted, maybe it's just me who don't remember seeing it.
@@mapl3mage No worries.
But if you are trying to get a mac , i would advise not to right now.
Especially with the M1 chip .
Look at the refurbished section. So many return on the M1 chip computers.
Too many bad design choices for mac . wait at least for the 3rd iteration.
@@difflam74 I'm not, but thanks for the advice!
Fun Fact: In my country (Botswana) it costs less to take a flight to NYC, USA ($900), buy the latest iPhone ($699) and back again. Right now 10/10/2021, the iPhone 11 Pro Max 64GB is $2,200 and the 256GB version is going for $2,900... So yea.. we get some 'Sales' here but I've never bought an iPhone locally. Annoying thing is Shipping services are notoriously slow average 4-6 weeks for a package from USA.
I have the 12 Pro Max but I would like to see Apple do a line of SE style phones. Not just the SE first Gen, and SE second Gen but a line up of budget friendly phones. My daughter is 18, I got her the XR but it would be cool to be able to afford the latest chipset and of course compromise on size and features but at a price I can afford. Does that make sense? I don’t know maybe it’s just me 🤷🏻♀️
You didnt understood the video if you ask for that
In India we almost get a 40% off around October for the second latest model. But prices are already like 30% higher than rest of the world.
Cause it’s a retailer not Apple Store. There’s sales in retailers all over the world.
this should be a 2 second video
"no broke people"
Things change when it comes to India. It's hard to get customers in this country. Even Amazon had to come up with 'Pay on Delivery' model to compete. Recently, iPhone went on sale for upto 30% price cut. While Apple didn't do it officially on their website but they offered free Airpods with iPhone purchase. Similarly they offered cashback on loading money to Apple pay. Strange for a company like Apple to do this marketing tricks. But results are here as well. Apple India saw 70% YoY growth in revenue than last year.
Very interesting! Thanks for the video 😁
well it did recently , iphone 13 and 12 were on sale in india with ₹10000+discount
An additional reason I can think of is that psychologically, when an item is discounted, its value diminishes in the mind of the potential customer. And Apple would never diminishes the value of their products.
That’s why the prices tags, in the Apple stores are always very discreet, that is in order to not make the price a selling point. The luxury industry uses the same price tags format if you ever notice
So true it happens to me sometimes when I see discounted products
This video convinced me even more! Well said, and explained man!
right now where I live the iphone 12 pro max 256 is arround $1700 while the s21 ultra 256 is arround $1150. And for used phones the iphone 11 pro max costs twice the price of the s20 ultra... I have a lot of dishes to wash and I'm just procrastination by typing this pointless comment. God I hate doing the dishes.
Great. Then don't buy an iPhone. Plenty of cheaper good products out there if you like or are confortable with an Android and getting updates for a very limited or even less amount of time. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
The iPhone that is always on sale: iPhone SE. I simply don’t see the point of any other iPhone.
Also not a chance that I will use their trade in program since I can get much more money for it online
i turned off the volume & forgot to turn on the caption while watching this because my kid is sleeping. I thought the beginning of the video is samsung ads 🤣🤣🤣
Lol😂
in india, base iPhone SE2 is $499 compared to $399 for 64gb in USA. For 128gb, its $599 compared to $499 in USA. See, a $100 jump in price tag for this item even though it is "MADE IN INDIA" (written on the package itself). Anyway, it bought in Flipkart Big Billion Days which gave me discounted price at $499 for 128gb (which should be before the discounted price tag), it's a nice decent phone. Happy customer !!
What a irony, we have to assume we got lucky because of discount, where all they did is sold the product for the original price.
Just a market strategy, since Indians love a good deal, they did exactly that but it was only a gimmick.
It's nice that Apple has given us customers a great variety of options for iPhones.
They can still sell the highest end $1,000 iPhones with their Pro models - have average customers get flagship power in the middle at $700 - $800 for the regular iPhones - and for the budget entry is the SE at an affordable $399.
About a week ago, Apple products in my country have huge sales including the iPhone 12 lineup. They cut the price up to 30% and it is actually pretty cool that some people could finally purchase it. Even older models like XR are considered cheaper than the SE 2020.
@Simz Zxy yeah, it is from several authorised reseller.
Probably from an unauthorized reseller though :(
1:16 I have been a Finshots.in subscriber for about a year. It's great to see an Indian company referenced in a foreign channel.
another factor is inflation
10 years ago u bought KitKat for 40~50 cent and now u have to pay 1$ for it
An exemption to this is the philippines they do go on sale 1-2 months before the new model comes, probably because these are sold by so called premium resellers
I am Android person but i love this channel.
Honestly, it's pretty easy to buy iPhone cheaper with shopping malls and carriers discounted/promotion gift cards
Pretty much this. My brothers and I opened our own family plan a couple years ago and at the time Verizon had a promotion where the iPhone 10 was buy one get one free for new family accounts. Apple themselves may never have their products on sales in their stores but carriers have promotional deals all the time.
Apple was already paid by the carrier. The carrier isn’t trying to sell the phone but their service
@@chidorirasenganz and it's usually more expensive in the long run
Superb explanation.
So will prices keep going up every year to match their previous year’s growth? :/
Google never sell users data. They just analyze the data to show personalized ads.
Apple can afford to not go on sale because, in my opinion, they have the best hardware to back up that strategy.
More importantly it’s the software
I think its the software. There are products that are made with more premium materials than their products.
@@j.d6009 but those are just small factors. Compared to how Apple develops and handles their software.
@@ptrckwyn The hardware advantage Apple owns the processor development of the chip that no one else has access to in addition to the software. . Their latest model always out performs any competition with very tight integration to iOS. The rest use off the self stuff and make it work with Android
@@johniii8147 exactly. Snapdragon is no slouch. But because iOS is very optimitized on their chip that's why it performs so well. So it's still the software.
Apple go on sale in India. Last year in Diwali sale they dropped the price of iPhone SE to as less as 25k INR which original launch price was 40k INR.
They are lowering the price of the older iPhones every year. Isn’t considered sale?
Not quite. They only do a price readjustment when the newer models are released. Otherwise, you would have an outdated model priced the same as a new model and it would confuse the hell out of customers. Having an actual sale would be taking the current product and slashing the price.
shhhh isheeps dont wanna hear this it burns there little brains i mean ears.
@@jon-erich9752 To add on to what you said, it’s because they begin to not care about older products. For example, I bought the iPhone XR for its full price back in 2018. Now it’s much less expensive.
Well, I live in Lithuania and we have Apple products discounts at official Apple products retailers. Often they make discounts for students and sometimes they make discounts for Macs, Airpods and iPads. But yeah, I never saw discounts for example, in US 😀
Its because the apple products’ prices in Europe are always higher than the US ones. Your „discounts” are still higher prices than in America
1:17 shattered the truth
You pay apple with cash. You pay Google with data.
i had both galaxies and iphones, no issues, just went with the flow, now with trying to save money so i'm no hurry to get the latest galaxy or iphone
If you deliver quality, you don't need to go on sale. The product speaks for itself and markets itself.
But in Apple Malaysia, we will always got a big discount on Chinese New Year, Hari Raya and Deepavali. And also, we will got a small discount on new iphone releases.
Apple has won people's mindset since the very beginning. Thanks to Steve Jobs. And, that legacy is still carried on. Only time will tell when the people reach the turning point.
My grandparents refuse to upgrade they're I phones because they're expensive as hell wait about 2 or 3 years before upgrading from any company not just apple
I can’t believe I started watching this guy at like 200k in 2018. Now Apple Explained has 687k.
IKR Too bad you can't invest in youtube channels.... NFTs maybe?
Try blinking at 1:20, it creates a weird effect at the picture. Idk if it's just me but it's actually kinda cool.
haha cool !
Here in Europe iphone def go on sale as the carriers wanna sell u that plan, not the phone :p
That’s the carrier discounting not Apple. Appolo still get the same amount of money for the phone it’s the carrier taking a hit to lock you into a contract
We gets sales but not directly from apple but from Amazon and Flipkart (amazon competitor) idk why but most likely because the base variant of a iphone cost around 1000 dollars here in India because of taxes and we get 100 to 200 dollars if you are lucky
When you know you’re worth you never put yourself on sale lol 😉
Great vid!
I'm not convinced by your analysis.
You say they'd never lower the price of the iPhone after the X in 2017 which went for 1000$ to retain profit margins, yet the year after they released a 749$ iPhone Xr and after that a 699$ iPhone 11. Last year, they dropped a 399$ iPhone. Those phones combined consist of the vast majority of their sales.
And it is very obvious that Apple tries to extend the longevity of their devices and incentivises people to hold on to their iPhones: 5+ year software support, old iPhones run still very smoothly even after 4-5 years, very aggressive battery health management.
Hence I am not convinced that their main goal at this point are hardware sales.
If that were truly the case, they would go the android route which is try to bring the most bleeding edge tech but make phones obsolete or outdated just a few months after release, hoping customers upgrade more frequently.
Apple tries to create the image that their phones are very robust and people who care about device longevity will buy iPhone again, and second, the longer people use an iPhone, the more likely they are to get locked in the ecosystem, buy an iPad/Mac/Watch/TV and spend money on the Appstore and on iCould.
So basically, I don't think this video truly explains what is going on here
The only way how you could get an iPhone on sale is if you wait at least a year when a new generation iPhone launches, then the next year when the next generation iPhone launches, you can then buy that iPhone for almost half off on sites like eBay. You may can also get an agreement deal with your carrier that they may offer you an iPhone at a discounted price
The background music sounds like one of the in game music used in Theotown wahaha
@Apple Explained Why
Globally Apple has just 17% share of the market in units. In Europe it is about 1/3. In India they are included in the "others". Base d on OS the have 4% share.
You can get iPhones cheaper now if you buy older models.
Things are changing in India. If you see now more and more people are buying iPhones even older phone like 11 and 12 and 13.
I just also bought 13
Also That’s why Apple Product hold there value unlike android products that depreciate like a brick in the sky 😂
Yeah....that's the sacrifice you've to make for better value I guess
Coming from a former Android User, you're accurate, Older Models of iPhones is still on sale (E.g XR and 11) until now (2021) unlike Older Models of Android Phones is disappeared like a bubble.
Exactly that’s why I stick to Apple like my mom has a Samsung galalaxy s9 now it’s worth $180 on EBay that’s how cheap they get
Apple does hold a premium , but you pay for it . So often times Samsung is the far better value.
In india ,,,,iphone 12,12mini and SE was on huge sale in first week of October,,,,price dropped from $800 to $510 for 12 mini
I'm willing to pay extra for not having my data sold to other third party and advertisers.
so yes, I bought an iPhone 11 pro last year and getting rid of all the google account associations in a phased manner
Also a macbook air M1 this year
I hate ads and being sold.
In the uk the iPhone 12 Pro was £999 last year. This year it’s £949. (Most likely just conversion rates)
Apple User: Samsung smartphones sucks
Also Apple User: guess what I just got a new Samsung Smart TV
hey that's me
Humans: we will work together because we are all the same
Also humans: stupid rice eater
Nope I’ll stick with my lg smart tv lol 😂 but I will consider trying a note 20 from an iPhone XR
that's a really dumb logic made by Apple haters. You can dislike a company's product from one division, and enjoy the products from another division. By the same token, you can, for example, like the iPhone line but hate the Mac. I guess that must be mind-blowing to you, huh?
Thank u 🙏 for sharing information
Because they know they will sell them anyway , so why loosing money at the end of the day...
watch the video
@Namir Deshmukh Hardware profit at the end of the day, so why cutting on that area ? It's better for them to sell less units. It's simple as that. It's an hardware company and they make profit with that.
Was using an iPhone 4 for 3 years after my mom gave it to me after she finished her 2year contract on it. Only changed the battery once.
Here in India during Diwali festival we had an deal from Apple that if you buy an iPhone 11 you will get air pods free
Damm that was sweetest Deal 🤩
I bought iPhone 11 for ₹45,499 via Flipkart on “Mobile Bonanza” on April 7 2021. Believe me, Apple offered u free (so called) AirPod on iPhone 11 at priced ₹60,000+ 🤣 (₹15,000) more than I got. That’s AirPod price.
@@mirzarizwan6855 yea but that's apple giving free stuff on their official website
@@mirzarizwan6855 also I knew I will be getting genuine product instead of getting headache from flipcart or Amazon yea paid more but got more
There are a lot behind the sale. Normally you only get on sale products from last years product. If you visit China’s Huawiangbei you will know why. I can’t talk too much online. Just go visit Shenzhen’s Huawiangbei.
In Malaysia we do have sales for iphones suprisingly