REMEMBER REMEMBER... Americans React "Guy Fawkes and the Conspiracy Of The Gunpowder Plot"
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There is no escaping whistler. I just clicked on guy fawkes American reaction but there he is again, he’s the Rick Astley of youtube 😂 I’ve been whistlered
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It's actually quite an important event in American history as well because King James was the king that granted the Virginia Charter and subsequently had Jamestown named after him. If he had been blown up then American history might have been different.
Used to do 'Penny for the Guy' as a kid... which is basically a scarecrow, dressed in your dad's old clothes and pushed around on a cart! Used to divvy up the cash and head for the sweet shop
I did the same…we had a pub at the top of our street, so me and my guy would sit on the bench outside the pub, calling “ spare a copper for the guy” and collect coppers for the guy when everyone left the pub in differing states of inebriation. I would manage to fill a big crystal triffle bowl with not just coppers but thrupencess, sixpences and shillings. I now realise that I was duped by my parents, they would take the massive bowl of money and I would get A box of Standard fireworks that my Father would later let off in the yard. I think a box of standard fireworks was about 15 Bob at the time, I’m guessing the money from the bowl just made its way back to the pub!
@@TheShmoo123 yeah we used to penny for a guy outside the local pub, made a killing lol. 🤣
My brother dressed me up as a doll and made me do a bit so it got "us" more money...yeah right
I hear it's illegal today as it's seen as begging, shame.
@@tobytaylor2154 Not really - it is selling a service.
Guy Fawkes didn't give up the names easily. If you see his signature pre torture and post torture you can see the damage he took over the period of two days
yes i hoped they'd show that comparison. Also wasn't the gunpowder all taken and stored but then shortly before the plot was due to take place it was damaged by damp and had to be snuck out and replaced? I don't know if that's an actual thing, like the lodgings and the tunnel through to the cellars? Not sure if going insane?!
@@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 I seem to remember it being added to but honestly can't remember. I know the guys who fled had damp powder and tried to dry it
Unsure if one survived but they tried to dry the damp gunpowder in same place they slept in front of the open fire and you can guess what happened, unsure if before or after guy Fawkes was found
These two fellows passed over this section with assorted giggles. Even we English who rejoice at the thwarting of the plot feel a fleeting sympathy with Guy Fawkes’s incredible bravery for withstanding the torture for so long. If you are from the USA you obviously look at violence in a more relaxed way.
It is commonly said, that Guy Fawkes was the only man to enter parliament with honest intentions.
Too true.
Honest intentions, a clear agenda and the means to carry it out, to give the full quote.
It's funny that you raise the question of why it should be taught or why wasn't it taught. I did history all 6 years of high-school and what subjects we learned often seemed to differ (and by that I mean, just because the year above us was studying the cold war didn't necessarily mean that's what we would be studying next year). Year groups would often bring this up for discussion with teachers, especially if there was a "better" or "more interesting" topic that you worried you might miss out on. Students would ask the question "why are we even studying the Russian revolution?" or "what does Charlemagne have to do with us?". We had a phenomenal history teacher who ran the department and his answer made me love history even more. He told us it doesn't matter what section of history you study or what part of the world it comes from, the whole point is to learn how a thing happened, why it happened, and ask what did we learn from it that changed us so that we may learn from all mistakes, made on all sides, and strive not to repeat them.
Beautifully said. History papers are what happened, why, see both sides. Conclusion. I think you sum up why
Finally the reason history Is important put up on the Internet; I shall copy and paste this for future use if you don't mind
If you cringe at the idea behind forced religion, you really should look at real story of The Pilgrims on the Mayflower.
They were not fleeing persecution. They had a totally different agenda. It is really interesting how the story has been changed.
Yup the Pilgrims were persecution fleeing US.
I live in Northumberland, England. In 1596 Thomas Percy’s second cousin, Henry Percy, 9th Earl of Northumberland, appointed him constable of Alnwick Castle and made him responsible for the Percy family's northern estates. Their ancestors still live here, with Ralph Percy, being the 12th Duke of Northumberland. The Percy’s still live in their ancestral home Alnwick Castle in Northumberland.
You should look up the term "Priest holes". Many large houses had hidden cubbies where a Priest could hide when the authorities came knocking. These holes were often so small the priest could hardly move at all.
Later to be called, choir boys
@@chrisellis3797 🤣
@@chrisellis3797 wow 😂 take a like.
Harvington Hall being the best example. Even today they are not sure they’ve found them all.
@@MickEll91 🍻 cheers lol
Rockets in a milk bottle falling over and firing themselves straight in the shed where your dad and the whole box of fireworks were! Hysterical once you knew he was OK! Xx
My favourite night of the year as a kid! I am old enough to remember when the only fireworks you could buy were the 'Standard' fireworks, and who could forget the thrill of watching the snow storm, roman candle and *sigh* the traffic light.
I think you might like to react to “Why the Presbyterians arrived in America “
It’ll show quite a lot of information that you may or may not know
We may be able to see how it was taught in America ❤
Traffic lights along with bangs and airbombs lol
Roman candles, Catherine wheels and the dog shitting itself in the kitchen.
Those were the days.
Light up the sky with standard fireworks
Bob Mortimer reference to "Standard" fireworks?
I visited York in 2017. I spent a while looking at the mighty York Minster then I noticed a pub across the road called Guy Fawkes Inn. I went over and saw a blue plaque on its outside wall saying the inn is where Guy Fawkes was born. So I went in and had a couple of pints of Black Sheep in Guy Fawkes's birthplace.
The small church just across from the Inn ( right outside the mighty Minster) is where Guy was christened.
I never noticed that pub will have try it next time I go
The best film to watch is Gunpowder it’s a 3 part mini series starring Kit Harrington ( Jon Snow ) from G O T he is a distant relative of Robert Catesby whom he plays it’s a historical dramatisation and very good
Yes seen it but oh my god it was awful hide behind a cushion time when they found the priest etc..
A lot of old manor houses in the UK have priest holes - secret compartments in the walls. They’re very cool.
I did some electical work at an old manor house that had its own Chapel once, it was mind blowing, it was all intricately carved stone like a cathedral, it was built around this time period too
An interesting quirk of some buildings in the UK that were around during that period is that they had "Priest holes" built-in so that the clergy could hide, sometimes within your walls.
When I was a kid (60's) Most kids used to make a guy and sit it on corners crying out "A penny for the guy" And people used to throw you pennys so you could get some cheap fireworks or wood to celebrate.. I don't know when that stopped happening, maybe the 70's . However, that would have been a thing for at least a couple of hundred years at least.. " Penny for the Guy Mister" I remember the local Bonfire slowly building up in your local park or field for about 2 months before the event...
I did it in the early 90s
It's a bit sad really that this doesn't happen now. Children having to put a bit of effort in to gain something, the fun of building a big bonfire, the retention of history. Oh how I despair, they now teach my children Diwali while I'm trying to teach them about out Christian heritage.
@@davidticktum6867 still happens here , I think its probably more to do with xboxes than kids being taught about diwali tbh.
Didn't the clip say the guards searched places that had not been touched on november 4th, found fawkes on the 5th. Today we celebrated that the 'king' did not get killed on the 5th. (Fawkes was found with the gunpowder and had matches). As a kid back in the 50's/60's don't think we did halloween at all... but november 5th we did.
Dorset had a punky pie celebration at the end of oct, and churches would have masses and rememberances for all souls day and all saints day.
As a Yeoman of the Guard at the Tower of London (Billy Beefeater) once said. Guy Fawkes: The only man to enter Parliament with honest, noble, intentions, a clear agenda, and the means to carry it out…….😂😂
There's a cool Richard Hammond documentary where they build a full size replica of the houses of parliament and use a fraction of the gunpowder that was going to be used in the plot, and it's absolutely smashed to splinters
Some of this was new to me. This was more educational than history class at school, which if I’m honest just sent me to sleep.
On that note, I’m off to dry some gunpowder in front of the bonfire. 😂 👍👍
In Ireland Guy Fawkes night is never celebrated and never has been because of what it represents. The Gunpowder Plot was a reaction to anti-Catholic laws in Britain and in the aftermath Parliament brought in extensive anti-Catholidi legislation. So for a majority Catholic country who suffered heavily under protestant British rule we have no interest in a night celebrating the burning of a Catholic and the celebration of anti-Catholic discrimination.
Love the video guys.
I live in York and grew up here. The school the mentioned, St. Peter’s still exists and many of my friends went there. Every year they have a bonfire but they refuse to put a Guy onto it because they won’t burn one of their former students. Strange fact for you there 😊
Bonfires of course predated Fawkes, being pagan to get the failing sunlight re-lit
I would recommend the Gunpowder Plot documentary with Richard Hammond, which does a recreation of what the explosion would have been like. Also, the Mayflower sailed 15 years after this, so it was just before the beginning of English speaking North America.
Mayflower set sail from England in July 1620, but it had to turn back twice because Speedwell, the ship it was traveling with, leaked. After deciding to leave the leaky Speedwell behind, Mayflower finally got underway on September 6, 1620.
@@daveofyorkshire301 Then sailed to Holland.
@@alanmawson9601 explain? You're telling me on a trip to America from Southampton they went to the Netherlands first? You do know it's on the other side of the country in the opposite direction?
They actually came from Leiden, Netherlands BEFORE setting off from Southampton to Massachusetts in the "New World"... Leaving from Plymouth Harbour in the UK to arrive in Plymouth Harbour, Massachusetts... There's original thinking for you...
@@daveofyorkshire301 They forgot the weed they had stashed in Amsterdam, silly!
As you mentioned your movie reviews, I have a recommendation here. Christian Bale's first movie rôle at aged 13 was as the central character (appearing in every scene over the 2h 35m) in Spielburg's Empire of the Sun. This is the largely true story of a privilaged British 13 yr old who is interned by the Japanese when they captured Shanghai in 1941. I think that, along with Jamie Bell in Billy Elliot and Jacob Trembley in Room, these are the finest performances by male child actors under 14 in post-war cinema history. You'll love the music, the cinematography, the message, and mostly the acting. The movie was nominated for 17 awards in 1988, and won 13 of those, but lost out at the Oscars to The Last Emperor - generally viewed as a much inferior production.
To put that 500 Pound annual pension for turning in the plot into perspective: in the 1700's and 1800's, the pay for a Private in the British army was 1 shilling per day, which is 30 shillings or 1.5 pounds per month, or 18 pounds per year. So that pension was 27 times a soldiers annual pay.
Back in the 90s when me and my sister were little, my dad and our best friends dad who lived about 10 houses away used to aim the fireworks at each other's gardens so they could try to set each other's sheds on fire. I thought that was pretty normal at the time hahaha
We had our fireworks tonight with our son and grandparents and aunties uncle's and cousins round with jacket potatoes, hot dogs and toffee apple bread and butter pudding. The whole guy aspect isn't really talked about, it's just a fun night with sparklers and fireworks and a bonfire and an excuse to have the family round.
Of course we do Halloween here in England. My 2 year old grandson dressed as Chucky going trick or treating this year.
We have another saying in the UK " Guy Fawkes was the last person to enter parliament with honest intentions"
We live in a home with a priest hole, i use it to store my decorating stuff. A wallpaper table fits in nicely. It is quite a large one but we are in the country and the priests were infamously rotund
As to your question about why should European religious and political wars be taught in American schools I have a couple of reasons. Although you say America was in its infancy (by western standards), the very foundation of the first colonies owed a lot to religious persecution in Europe. The puritans showed the same religious fervour in the New Country - the Mayflower landed a only a decade or so after Guy Fawkes death - resulting in bigotry to Catholic immigrants and Jewish people in the 19th and 20thC and having overwhelming influence on current day America, particularly since the Evangelical Christian movement decided to marry itself to the right wing politics of the 70’s and the Reagan years. The US is right now in a dire situation that directly contradicts the idea of separation of Church and State and you will never get elected President if you don’t pretend to be a person “of faith”.
Kit Harrington who was Jon snow and actually played catesby in the tv movie of the gunpowder plot is actually a descendant of catesby
Great video...Im 55 and still love Guy Fawkes night, I'll be in the local park tomorrow night with family and friends for the bonfire, fireworks and funfair. Stay safe guys...
I'm taking my Aussie girlfriend to her first. 6 years she's been living here and has never gone to anything but a friend's back garden bonfire.
Oh and the experience in Northern Ireland is on another level. Where members of the Protestant community put an effigy of the Pope at the top of the bonfire. 🤷😂
Used to love Guy Fawkes night, motto for us as kids was Penny for the Guy, which consisted of old clothes stuffed with newspaper {usually dads}. a face made out of an old pillowcase stuffed with newspaper, to resemble the man himself, stick him in a cart or old pram, stand outside the local pub and shout penny for the guy.
Always got enough pennies to get sweeties and to put toward getting fireworks. A small bonfire would have been built in garden on the 5th November, then the Guy that my bro and I made would then have been burned. Dad would have lit fireworks while mam cooked jacket spuds on fire. Happy Memories.
Guy Fawkes birthplace house still stands in York.
The Vikings found the new world before Columbus
The Guy Fawkes experience has changed over the years. Loved it as a kid, everyone stood around a bonfire with baked potatoes in tin foil. And us kids could easily get our hands on fireworks and they seemed to go off every night randomly for weeks before and after. Today is the 4th and I haven't heard one firework yet, South London
I think that's more to do with the fact that people haven't got spare money to buy fireworks this year and a lot of the professional display companies went bust due to covid lockdowns
Really? I’m in a village north of Birmingham and I’ve been hearing them for the last week.
@@VC-gt8fv that would have been for Diwali
@@bmxerqf882 oh no Diwali was like 2 weeks ago the fire works come from the houses with the lights. We get a week of those then about a week of the bonfire ones.
Here in Nottingham we’ve had fireworks going off for at least a week as well.
Doesn’t surprise me that you aren’t hearing any in London, anything to do with being English isn’t liked.
Richard Hammond did a documentary called 'the gun powder plot exploding the legend' in 2005 in which he recreated what was then the parliament building in an attempt to see what would have happened if the gun powder plot had been successful, not sure how accurate it is but it is an interesting show
The last man to enter parliament with honest intentions
The 13 colonies started in 1607 just 2 years later. Novenber 5th was celebrated in America up to 1776.
Richard Hammond did a show where they actually detonated 36 barrels of gunpowder in a replica of the houses of Parliament. Gunner9365 has a video of the detonation scenes on TH-cam
I love Halloween as an 80s kid we carved turnips which is really hard to carve!! Snapped knives sore hands the smell of burning turnip!! Loved it when we got pumpkins! Also enjoy bonfire night always do my own fireworks and maybe go to a display sparkles and getting warm by the fire, hot pots, toffee apples and baked potatoes we would eat. Penny for the guy etc
Weren't turnips the original jack'o lanterns, because the Irish and Scots before Pocahontas, the conquistadors and the pilgrims started up a pumpkin export business?
Sorry, the Irish and Scots didn't have pumpkins. Only turnips. They must have been pleased when they got a bigger gourd from the New World. And the pies!
@@colinwilson4609 I’m from England and we didn’t back then I got my first ever pumpkin in year 2000 when my daughter was born and couldn’t believe how easy is to carve!!! Although they smelt like melon so summer smell, I associate burning turnip smell with Halloween… we would do trick or treat here in 80s, have partys , Also seeing pumpkins in films all my life and having one was cool! I try and grow my own now but buy them also . 🎃
@@grunge_surf_witch_uk9130 I went to rehab in 2009 so got to live at this place called Transition House for three months. One of my favourite people that I met there was this guy named Joe Pavone. At a long table full of therapists, alkies and druggies, in the middle of a trestle table with a tablecloth, experiencing Canadian Thanksgiving for the first time ever. Because even though his Italian immigrant parents had carved a scary face out of the rind and toasted the seeds, they never new what to do with the mush.
The moral of this story? You can bake a tasty pie with it. I have completely lost my train of thought.
And another question @Grunge_Surf_Witch_UK, if that is indeed your real name. It sounds like a futuristic Kim and Kelly Deal-themed interactive internet Whack-a-Mole themed phenomenon. I don't remember the question. When Mr. Blobby was a well-written hit I had only experienced it on the comic strip pages of Private Eye, a very-highbrow low-brow publication that even a young yours truly realised might frown on the clumsy antics of a bowling pin-shaped half-Dalek, half plum pudding character. Yet again, I have lost the plot.
Coughton Court is a country house where the gunpowder plotters used to meet. It’s only a few minutes from where I live.
I think it’s a wedding venue now
You guys should look up "priest holes" in English houses. They were amazing hides for priests.
We call it bonfire night around these ways...
As a direct ancestor of Kit and Jack Wright it's weird to see the fireworks now (grew up with it before I found out my link) and know my family had a part in this night
Great one fellas and Daniel your face as soon as religion was mentioned was gold mate😂👍✌️🍻
Thanks guys, I learned something new from your video. I never knew that it’s our “Thanksgiving” day, we just commonly call it Bonfire night.
My favourite holiday just because its uniquely British :) Keep up the great reacts lads. Shame its a Simon Whistler video.
I think you mean Britain and colonies. You can’t take my childhood Guy Fawkes away from me :)
@@feebeedoc78 My apologies. I did not mean to denigrate any commonwealth or other that also celebrate. Enjoy your fireworks friend :)
Holiday? since when has the 5th November been a holiday?
@@keithcornish5073 The same as all the other ones? Its a group celebration on a particular day it fits the definition. I'm not sure what your arguement would be against it not being one unless you have some reductive definition of only Holy days being defined as holidays.
@@nizmollusk Never a holiday in my memory!
The guards searched the storage roomed beneath the Houses of Parliament and discovered Guy Fawkes on the Fifth of November guarding the Gunpowder
Kit Harrington (John Snow in Game of Thrones) is descended from 2 people involved in the Gunpowder Plot.
If you want to see what 36 barrels of gunpowder can do check out Richard Hammond's Gunpowder Plot experiment.
It should have been taught because the pilgrims etc came because of this religious change. It lasted way longer than they’re portraying here. It is also the thing that led to our current monarchy and the creation of the United Kingdom as a country. It went from 1527-1707. This period also produced the most common version of the Bible, The King James Version.
This kind of skips over quite a bit of the religious turmoil of the time. Between 1527- 1605 the country had gone through 5 monarchs and 5 different lots of religious turmoil. We went from devout catholics, questionable Protestants, rabid Protestants, rabid Catholicism, back to milder Protestantism with some serious persecution of the catholics.
People always skip the fact that this turmoil also led to the 3 civil wars, execution of Charles I, the Commonwealth and the glorious revolution and the Act of Union.
Snitches may get Stitches but these were times were those who Dont do the Talking are no longer Walking
One of my local pubs has a priest hole, up in the chimney stack. Just around the corner from where St.Margaret Clithero was crushed to death for hiding them.
Crazy old city is York.
Kit Harington (Jon Snow in Game of Thrones) is directly descended from Robert Catesby, the mastermind behind the Gunpowder Plot. In a quirky coincidence, the actor played Catesby in a TV show about the famous conspiracy.
It’s happening right now. I just went to the shop and almost choked on the smoke from someone burning all the rubbish in his back garden. It’s a great opportunity to burn everything you don’t need 😂
Re John Johnson - I used to work in real estate and names like that are not uncommon - David Davidson, Richard Richardson, James Jamieson. I've seen them all.
The religious wars in Europe during the 1500s were all tied into the Reformation that was started by a monk, Martin Luther.
You seemed shocked by the treatment of Catholics in England but Protestants in France were treated just as badly. The low estimate of people killed during the St.. Bartholomew's massacre is 5,000 but some believe as many as 30,000 Protestants were killed in 1 day. And they killed everyone - men, women, babies.
And then again, one hundred years later during Louis XIV's reign, Protestants faced persecution again although he didn't have them killed. Instead, Protestants couldn't emigrate to France, Protestant marriages were deemed invalid. All children had to be baptized as Catholics.
Old houses still have priest holes which is pretty cool (a small amount of really old houses)
The amount of gunpowder they had was estimated to be about 2 and half tons. And the original palace was built in 1016 and burnt down in 1834. The houses of parliament we have now was built in 1840.
As a kid Bonfire Night was second only to Christmas in the calendar ...... when I was young it was a lot more anarchic with kids from all areas of town collecting wood for weeks beforehand, having a wood store, defending it against other kids who might try and pinch some of your stocks. Going on raids to pinch other gang's stores. Each gang of kids had their own bonfires in each district of town with fireworks. The adults would get involved on the evening with women making food to bring out and share around ..... pea and ham soup, parkin, treacle toffee were bonfire night specialities. The adults would buy and and set off the fireworks. Nowadays it's all been sanitised and taken over by 'the authorities' who have official bonfires organised by local councils with health & safety conforming firework displays. It's not the same any more ...... it used to belong to the kids, now it's all organised and 'official'
You guys have got to do lewes bonfire night, it's full of fire !
It's a common British saying 'the last person to enter parliament with good intentions was Guido fawkes'
People in Britain (my dad included) complain about American Halloween traditions overtaking British Bonfire night traditions, but there is quite a bit of evidence that actually, bonfire night was a retooling of the original halloween, which was further based on the pagan Samhain. So, its kind of going back to our roots!
It was planned in a village called Welwick (pronounced Wellick) about five miles from where I live,a Good friend is a direct descendant of the Wrights involved.
Imagine all those bonfires in back gardens and all the fireworks going on on one night. On the sixth of November it always rains here because there is such a disruption to the lower atmosphere by 6th November.
If you think that Queen Elizabeth I (King James' predecessor) was tough on Catholics, she was was comparatively easy-going compared to her predecessor Queen Mary (also known as Bloody Mary) who was way tougher on Protestants and had lots of them burnt to death (eg google Broad St in Oxford, where there are plaques in the road for where three Protestant Bishops were burnt to death).
Religion and Politics were completely intertwined for hundreds of years in Europe - the Pope had great power, but European monarchs (Catholics) would fight wars to see who could control the Pope, and also to try and get rid of any remaining Protestants...
Monarchs wanted to have both Temporal Power (doing the King stuff, setting laws and taxes) and as much Religious Power as possible (influence the Pope if Catholic or set up a State Protestant Church eg Church of England if not Catholic).
I find this history very interesting, but in those times they certainly played hard ball, so a lot of it is very gruesome...
The way things are now, we are all wishing he had succeeded
The presenter didn't go back far enough to explain why the Queen was so against Catholics. Long story short she didn't set out to, but there were a lot of Catholic plots to kill her, so she got tough on them. James inherited the problem of a country split religiously. The European religious wars were very bloody (some estimates of the death toll are over 17 million). I think the Americans that want to make the US a Christian country don't know enough history and how dangerous such a move will be. Also, take a look at Lewis's (a town in southern England) bonfire night and procession.
American history is European history to a point. Your major religion, protestantism derived from this period. Its crazy how the religious wars of Europe isn't taught in American schools for saying how much it has impacted faith over there.
They were called priest holes , I lived in a house that was built in the 15 hundreds and there was one in the upper part of a old pantry .
If he was fired, it would have been for something serious. Fired in those times meant they would burn your tools.
Agents used to go to house's looking for priest's that were hidden in secret chamber's in the house, they would measure the outside, then measure inside, if it didn't add up it ment there was a hidden room.
most of us just say bonfire night lol
As I'm watching this there are explosions going off all around my house, as its the 5th. The sky is briefly sparkling with the fireworks from across the valley... great video ETS
Well done Guys. Thank you.
One reason the wars of the Protestant reformation might not be taught in the US is because they would puncture some of the founding myths of the country. The pilgrims who immigrated to the American colonies were puritans: zealous Protestants who wanted to eliminate all other religions. They weren’t allowed to do that in the UK because of all this stuff, and so they left/were encouraged to leave. That clashes with the religious freedom narrative of later in a way that would invite awkward questions about manifest destiny. In the UK we often joke about sending off our more religious people to the colonies so we could get some peace
It really should have been taught in US schools because this is what lead to the forming of the 13 colonies, all of the religious wars within Europe lead to people traveling further to discover new lands to conquer and aquire resources
In Guy Fawkes Inn in York, having a beer on a grey and moody Saturday afternoon on the 5th November where the man himself was born in 1570.
George Santayana
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.
I was brought up as a catholic and so went to catholic school. We were not allowed to call 5th November Guy Fawkes night. We called it bonfire night.
Remember, remember,
The fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot,
I know of no reason,
Why gunpowder treason,
Should.Ever.Be.Forgot.
Not far from me are 2 famous Catholic mansion houses , Coughton Court , ancestral home of Actor ( John Snow ) Kit Harrington and Baddesley Clinton .
Both these houses have Priest holes and hidden Chapels where the local Catholics would have gone to worship . They are both managed now by the National Trust but Coughton still has private rooms where the Throckmorton family have lived since 1409
31st October we get the trick or treaters coming round for sweets then we have 5th November bonfire night ( Guy Fawkes ) penny for the guy to buy fireworks usually bangers as a kid.
We do Halloween in NI, 31 October, trick and treating, and (some fireworks) not Guy Fawkes, 5 November.
To stick up for Elizabeth I a little bit, she succeeded her unpopular Catholic sister, Mary I, who had persecuted Protestants during her reign, burning many for heresy..at the beginning of her reign, Elizabeth said she did not want to peer into people's souls and fines for non attendance at Protestant Church services weren't too severe. As her reign went on, this became harder line because of Catholic plots on her life and the influx of undercover Jesuit priests. This also made it very difficult for Catholics who wanted to follow their faith but also be loyal to the Queen. It is an interesting difference that Protestant were punished for heresy, a religious crime, in Mary's reign but Catholics tended to be hanged, drawn and quartered as traitors during Elizabeth's reign ie a political punishment.
This didn't start in England, it started in Germany.
_Martin Luther, a German teacher and a monk, brought about the Protestant Reformation when he challenged the Catholic Church's teachings starting in 1517. The Protestant Reformation was a religious reform movement that swept through Europe in the 1500s_
There were reformers before Luther: John Wycliffe in England and Jan Hus in Bohemia to name but two.
@@MrBulky992 John Wycliffe : A reformer is not necessarily trying to break away or create a new church, they simply wish to change something... So what were John Wycliffe's ideas? Why do you think he was a Protestant over a hundred years before the idea of breaking away existed?
If he had voiced anything against the Catholic church back then, especially being in it as a priest he would have been branded a heretic and excommunicated - and that's how history would remember him, but we don't, so I'm guessing his reformist ideas were inline with the church... The Catholic church has changed over the millennia because 9f reformist inside it. Being a reformist does not make you a separatist.
He was a Catholic priest, biblical translator and philosopher, so he would have been a thinking man, but that doesn't necessarily mean he wanted to separate from the church, only make his mark or teach his interpretation, who would have been challenging him back then?
I don't believe any of the reformers wanted schism in the church: if Martin Luther could have come to an accommodation with the Church which was in line with his conscience, I believe he would have taken it otherwise why bother attempting to engage initially? "Reform" just means changing things to make them better. "Protestant" originally just meant "one who protests". The Nicene Creed states "I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church" and most protestant denominations subscribed to it and still do.
Henry VIII broke from Rome and he wasn't even what we could truthfully describe as a protestant: he was fully on board with the dogma of the catholic church and its mode of ecclesiastical governance except for the supremacy of the Pope in temporal matters and he continued to persecute protestants until the end of his reign.
So "schismatic" and "protestant reformer" do not equate.
Wycliffe and Jan Hus translated the scriptures into the vernacular. They were branded heretics just like the 16th century reformers. However, their desire for reform went well beyond this modest reform. The 16th century reformers acknowledged the debt they owed to both. The Hussites actually fought wars against the Pope so the two factions were clearly separate for as long as the wars were going on and the Hussites were not yet defeated.
I am not aware that there was much reforming going on in the Church before their time. Everything seemed to be going in the opposite direction until they appeared.
And who broke away from whom? It was the catholic church which was doing all the excommunicating and putting their reforming members outside the church. The Anglicans have never excommunicated the Roman Catholic church whose members may, to this day, receive anglican communion (should they wish to); but the catholic church does not allow the same in reverse: I'm just saying.
One of the jollier Catholic burning festivals.
We call it bombie night in Liverpool and I know from a friend in Glasgow that they call it bonny night but in general over the uk it’s bonfire night.
Guy fawks night or bonfire night is bloody mental.. for like 2 weeks each side of the 5th... one of my fav nights of the year cause its like christmas and eceryone seems to be nice n chatty... however its fkn brutal.. everyone turns feral man.... like the purge... its free for all and as a kid i never really noticed but now as an adult it must be the worst time of year for emergency services etc... and yet...it persists... warts n all... as i say.. my fav time of year... when done right its just magical.
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It's a good time of year to have a fireworks celebration with big bonfires and toffee and hot dogs and everything.
In Bradford England. We call bonfire night plot night. When I was a kid the day before nov 4th we did mischief night. Basically we played tricks on people. I thought that everybody in Britain did the same. When I was older I found out that it's only done in and around Bradford.
What he did not say is that it was King James who ordered that bonfires be lit in celebration that the plot failed. This is why we still have bonfires on 5th Nov.
Regarding the drying of gunpowder remember Catholics regard suicide as a mortal sin and as capture torture and execution was certain one of the party may have attempted to blow up the party to escape capture. Instead they ended up charging the guards like Butch and Sundance but unfortunately for them they were captured alive. Richard Hammond of Top Gear and Grand Tour fame did a programme where they built a copy of the palace of Westminster and placed gunpowder underneath to see what happened. The video is on TH-cam so maybe check it out?
Lovely commentary. So interesting.
The Gunpowder Plot took place in 1605. The Mayflower sailed in 1620. Both events are linked through King James I's religious policies..
The Mayflower people weren't catholics: they were at the opposite end of the religious spectrum and happy to see the failure of the Gunpowder Plot, no doubt. They weren't fleeing persecution - they objected to the laxity in religious observance and morals in England under James and the middle-of-the-road episcopalianism he favoured and they wanted to leave to impose a puritanical regime of their own to counteract those tendencies.
It seems that King James couldn't please either side.
Whilst all of that was going on, King James took a great interest in finding witches and dealing with tgem. He wrote a book on the subject and his zeal was reflected not only on England but also in the American colonies throughout the century.
I never knew his name for awhile and used to call him Baldy Beardy man-and now that's all we call him in our house x
Guy Fawkes, the last person to ever enter the Houses Of Parliament with honest intentions.
Happy Bonfire Night guys!
For me , an ex Catholic, the 5th of November represents the defeat of terrorism on that night. I think that it’s something that all right minded people should support 💥 💥💥
Except Guy Fawkes was a guard on duty on the door, the aristocracy where the ones who derived the plan and then one turned on them to look favourably on the King. Guy Fawkes was a patsy.
@@MickEll91 No he was a traitor and terrorist in the pay of a foreign power trying to assassinate the King, his family and his parliament, to then place a puppet regime in power for the Roman Pope.
It might also be worth knowing about the Queen before Elizabeth, Mary a Catholic who persecuted the Protestant , 17 were burnt at the stake at Lewes (See Lewes bonfire celebrations) at least 287 were killed, 56 were women.
Given The US's own 'Pilgrim Fathers' left England in the reign of James 1, they left because they weren't allow to persecute Catholics as much as they would have liked.
At about the same time the Hugo Monts were French protestant's persecuted by the French Catholics, many fled to England, Germany or Holland.