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For a more modern take on the Protestant/ catholic trouble react to or watch Football Rivalry Celtic V Rangers ,as someone from Glasgow it’s uncomfortable viewing
I am back there are the new year celebrations in Edinburgh and also Up Helly aa which is a tradional Viking ceremony in Shetland ,us brits love a bit of fire lol
East sussex bonfire nights is a quite unique event, many of my friends across the country have described it as "Halloween on steroids". This event also doesn't just happen on the 5th November, In sussex there is a bonfire night on every saturday from September to late November at each town/village that have a bonfire society. The biggest ones are Hastings, Battle and of course Lewes. Battle is the oldest bonfire society with the Battle bonfire boyes.
That bloke dressed as an Archbishop getting fireworks thrown at him makes you proud to be British. If anyone asks how our small island managed to rule the world just point them in his direction.
It was the old Palace of Westminster which burned down in 1834, the new building was a replacement. Yes still cellars are still there, the medieval cellars were called undercrofts. Parts of the tradition is to inspect them prior to state opening of Parliament.
I know that some of the old floor and cellar still exists, it was my misfortune to have to attend an institute of structural engineers talk on it's restoration, my boss invited me and I had to feign interest, yawn.
Hi Sogal - I was born in Nov 5th, my middle name is Guy, and I was raised as a Roman catholic. However, as I grew up in England, most of my schoolmates were protestants. The birthday parties that I held every Guy Fawkes were a highlight of the year. Denominational differences aren't really a thing in most parts of the UK these days, and I am gladdened to find that the custom of fireworks and bonfires still exists in healthy form. Thanks for your video - it's always fun to see one's own culture through the eyes of a different culture. England's history is rich but bloody.
When I was a kid in the 1960s it was really common to make a "Guy" in the week before Bonfire Night, and use it to cadge money for fireworks, which was usually just a few old clothes stuffed with rags or whatever to roughly human shape with perhaps a balloon for a head, which we would sit with on the street and ask passers by "penny for the Guy". We never made enough to buy fireworks though, perhaps others did better business, but somehow (parents) there were always rockets and bangers when the evening came. I don’t remember the last time I saw a "Guy", the connection with Guy Fawkes seems to have faded away.
My wife went to a Catholic university where she was told that Fawkes was a hero and a martyr. Terrorism is always considered a righteous act by those on the side of the terrorist.
That drawing of the torture is actually of the Spanish Inquisition carrying out their work (against Protestants); look at their 'red' cloaks and the Catholic crucifix on the right wall (and the Cardinal sat below it)
Also that drawing of people being killed in the streets is actually of French Catholics murdering Huguenots (French Protestants). The survivors fled to Protestant England and thrived
@@SoGal_YT they actually come from English pamphlets published as propaganda against Catholicism. Most people feared a return to Catholic rule because of Queen Mary 1st, daughter of Henry VIII (Bloody Mary) who tried to reinstate Catholicism when she came to the throne. During her 5 year reign, she had over 300 people burned at the stake for heresy, although this is only the 'official' list from Fox's Book of Martyrs - many hundreds more died in prison, or just went unrecorded. The British fear of Catholicism ran through our history from the latter half of the 16th century, up to Victorian times - mainly because every monarch from Queen Elizabeth 1st onwards had to deal with Catholic plots to overthrow them and replace with a Catholic monarch/parliament. The Gunpowder Plot was the third attempt on his life by Catholics in 3 years.
@@gillianrimmer7733 To be fair, a lot of people got put to death for being of the wrong brand of religion under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I too, not just under Mary. People do airbrush out that England had a king when Mary was on the throne - Philip (also king of Spain).
Don't pay too much attention to the Lewes celebration. It may be the self-styled "biggest" bonfire event but it is still only one tiny part of the country. Most of the traditions they talked about have absolutely nothing to do with bonfire night. They are just local customs that they have merged into their way of celebrating the event. As their "seven societies" are groups associated with seven local pubs, there is the question of how much liquid was imbibed to produce these traditions.
It's your standard Guy Fawkes stuff, with added Lewes martyrs - definitely worth a visit. Oh, and there are many societies in that part of Sussex, all doing the same thing on a smaller scale.
@@kevinshort3943 If throwing fireworks at a tipsy guy wearing priest's robes, burning an effigy of the pope, marching around town with burning torches (like a classic Hammer Horror film) and racing with a burning cart strapped to your back are what you think of "standard Guy Fawkes stuff," then all I can say is that I am glad I'm not from Sussex. I think Sogal is half convinced now that we all have deep seated sectarian prejudices. There are of course a few hotspots in the country for deeply held protestant-catholic rivalries but for most places it isn't even an issue.
Oh bless... Das Audi Auto window (tinted) licking Uber Kool with a "K" hip trendy Volk (posh) with a "V" enjoy a night away from Ze Bunker after a raid on the dressing up box.
@@zarabada6125 Wooosh......... there it goes, right over your head. Their reasons are standard Guy Fawkes, they just get a little carried away with the it :) Nobody I have ever met takes the anti Catholic bit seriously, it just an excuse for a party, and to set light to something. Only the inbreds in NI and Glasgow take sectarianism seriously.
From my experience, it's not referred to as Guy Fawkes Day, it's Guy Fawkes Night (aka Bonfire Night or Fireworks Night) ... as it's just an evening of parties, fireworks and sometimes bonfires at public displays. Though I do remember a time when the daytime would include the tradition of 'Penny for the Guy' ... kids would put together a dummy/mock-up of a man and ask for loose change from passers by. The dummy would then be thrown on top of the bonfire before it's lit, to burn. I havent seen 'Penny for the Guy' in years, but it was quite common when I was a kid. If I look out my back window right now, I can see fireworks going off all over the place, both a nearby public display and home fireworks :-)
That's my experience too - it always been Guy Fawkes Night, Bonfire Night or Fireworks Night, because apart from preparations for the evening/night nothing happens during the daytime. The point is fireworks and bonfires don't look good during the daytime.
It's also a thing in New Zealand, where it IS refereed to as "Guy Fawkes Day" (though good luck getting people not to say it as "guy fox day" with any consistency)... of course, it's also at the tail end of spring (just before the summer weather starts drying everything out and making fireworks a major hazard in significant portions of the country), so the days are pretty long (leading to most people setting off fireworks the weekend following, rather than on the day itself)... Of course, it's also more a celebration of the fact that the week before is the only time of year that regular retailers carry fireworks, because it's the only time of year they're allowed to sell (a limited selection of) them to randoms (it's still age limited, mind, but in practice that amounts to something along the lines of 'not obviously a child' rather than rigorous checking of IDs, as from memory the age is lower than the point at which anyone has such (no centralized, unified identification system here, you see)).
As UK kids back in the 'fifties, we used to go out with a crudely-made 'Guy' and do "Penny For The Guy" - virtually it was like begging from passers-by for money to buy fireworks with. The practice was discouraged as, over the years, the sale of fireworks became more and more restricted. Children were barred from buying them many years ago, and now we see fewer and fewer outlets at this time of year, as we are more encouraged to attend an organised firework event, rather than setting off our own in our backyards like we used to. Of course, there were always an unacceptable amount of burns and injuries from amateur firworks back then, which luckily have dropped right down these days, with (generally) tighter restrictions on firework use.
@@davidsweeney4021 me and my brother and sister would do penny for the guy in the mid 90's but i think we were probably the last generation to really do it.
Catholics v Protestants was a very big deal in Europe especially in the 16th and 17th centuries, lots of wars were fought over this, such as the 30 years war ( a very nasty war). In England the 16th century was very confusing in England, Henry VIII started it when he formed the Church of England and required everyone to follow it, his son (Edward VI) was even more hardline and enforced this more thouroughly, he however died at a young age and his elder sister (Mary I) succeeded him. She was an arch catholic and tried to turn the clock back, persecuting protestants including the burnings referred to in this video. When she dies Elizabeth I succeeded her and went back to Protestantism , but she was more pragmatic than Edward. This didn't stop some Catholics plotting against her and plotting to remove her and replace her with her cousin, Mary Queen of Scots which resulted in Mary being beheaded.
@@wolf99000 Are you talking WW1& WW2 or the wars of the 16th/17thC and before.? If the latter then 'millions' did not die. Most battles/wars took place between a few 10s of thousands at the most as the logistics of moving men and supplies did not allow for the sort of numbers we saw in the 20th C. For instance it is estimated that William 1st (The Conqueror) had a total of no more than 10000 men with him when he invaded England. Even at the battle of Waterloo the British only numbered about 21000 troops, with about 60000 Prussian and Dutch alongside them. It is estimated that at the end of the day there was about 45000 deaths between all sides.
@@ChiefWizard666 The religious wars of the 16th & 17 centuries were pretty bloody because an army from one side would besiege a town or city and when they broke into it or the town surrendered, anyone who was of the opposite religion was massacred. Germany lost 30% of its population during the 30 years war.
Catesby is pronounced " Kate's-Bee ". Also remember in 1605 the UK Parliament was also the seat of government for the American colonies too, so it was also an attack against you ;-)
It was a separate English Parliament in 1605 - England and Scotland did not form a United Kingdom until 1707, and Ireland was joined to it in 1801. Mary 1 was King Henry VIIi’s eldest daughter ( by Katherine of Aragon) and was a Catholic - known as Bloody Mary because of her persecution of Protestants. She was succeeded by Elizabeth 1 who was a Protestant - she was the daughter of Henry and Anne Boleyn. When Elizabeth died with no heir, King James VI if Scotland was invited to become King of England as he was descended from Mary Queen of Scots, a relative of Elizabeth. However the nations remained separate, with their own legislatures and judiciaries for another hundred years until the Act of Union. Even today, Scotland has many laws different to England and retains its own legal system.
James Vl of Scotland was the Great, Great Grandson of Henry Vll of England, and was the legitimate heir to the English throne when Elizabeth died. Twice over, almost, as his parents were cousins, both descended from Henry!!
The Houses of Parliament today is a totally different building. As the original building which Guy Fawkes tried to blow up was largely destroyed by an accidental fire, from an oven overheating in 1834.
@@sammygirl5835 The lower part of the walls date from the original build in the 1090s. The upper parts of the wall and the roof are later additions of the age you indicate.
Yes, ironically it was the last laugh from the tax man as it was the old collection of tally sticks with recorded amounts of money transfers. A minister decided they all needed to be disposed of so they used a stove in the undercroft and caused a chimney fire. Some scholars say that those tally stick records probably had stuff like the ransom paid to free King Richard I and other historic transactions.
I remember years ago as a kid stuffing a ‘Guy’ with paper and wheeling it down the road in a wheelbarrow with a friend to the train station to catch returning commuters for ‘penny for the guy’, in reality we were waiting to catch my dad with a generous offering so he could buy his clothes back before the inevitable burning! Happy days.
Mostly it's either organised bonfires and firework displays in local parks or a family setting off a few fireworks for their children in their own gardens. The history is mostly ignored now and it's just seen as a chance to have some fun. The Lewes stuff is a very localised thing.
Only due to health and safety! When I was a kid you would either people have bonfires in their gardens or gangs of kids would all collect wood to build a huge bonfire in a field for instance though also there was more organised bonfire and firework parades aswell.
I grew up near Lewes in Sussex and many of the streets in Lewes are narrow. There are several Bonfire Societies in Lewes. The one featured in this video is Cliffe Bonfire Society. Cliffe is an area of the town of Lewes. Lewes is the County town of East Sussex
So it begins. 6.00pm Saturday 5th November 2022. It's all kicking off in East Anglia. The bangs and swishing of rockets flying off into the night sky. I can see the Bonfire off in the distant field from my back bedroom. My sons and the grandchildren have gone off to join the festivities. I stay and watch from the warmth of the house with my cup of tea and memories of so many similar gatherings going back as far as the fifties. Wow! That was a loud one! ... and pretty close too ... coming in now from all directions ... I'm off to enjoy the displays 😁👋
Love you looking into the history of this and wanting to learn of it's origins. Bonfire Night is well under way where I am and the poor dog next door is freaking out as the fireworks are VERY loud. Hope everyone stays safe and if you have pets please take good care of them over the next few days. By the way it isn't a holiday, as no time is taken off. It is a night (or now nights as they tend to go on for days after). Watching them from my window as I type this.
Fireworks hell week. Not eco-friendly either - air and noise pollution, not to mention the litter. The clowns who let these off are no better than terrorists.
Things are not as bad as they seem when it comes to firework displays. They are a lot more highly regulated than the lewes video made it seems. You have to have a licence and he given permission by local councils. So much so in many cases it's the council's themselves who put on the display.
This is not a holiday just a night to remember the 5th of November not a public holiday as you would know it and the war between the 2 half's of Christian Church still going on in many parts of Europe not just the UK this is what sent your forefathers to America to get religious freedom
I attend the one close by In Battle, East Sussex, the same parades but the bonfire and firework display is held on the actual battlefield of the Battle of Hastings 1066. Its amazing as is Lewes.
Many (I would even say most) places in the UK don't take the historical aspect this seriously. Growing up in the suburbs of London we went to firework displays with music, food stalls, stalls selling light up toys and sometimes a funfair and/or bonfire too. I don't remember ever seeing a 'guy' being burned and certainly no parades with burning barrels and crosses. Usually fireworks are going on locally every night for 4-6 days depending on where the weekend falls relative to the 5th. We mostly call it Firework Night where I'm from.
In 1605 it was still the English Parliament, the Act of Union was just over 100 years away, so although England and Scotland shared a king they still had separate Parliaments at that time.
It’s just a fun family celebration. When I was a kid, you’d have a fireworks party in your back garden. Now people are encouraged to go to big community displays for safety reasons.
I live not far from Lewes and I’ve been to Lewes Bonfire loads of times and it is a great experience, although I’ve never been involved in a bonfire society just gone along as a spectator . I think the guy dressed as the Archbishop probably best explained the spirit of it as the idea of carrying on a tradition, even if the origins are no longer relevant and the meaning has changed and is now about burning effigies of contemporary politicians and remembering fallen soldiers at the war memorial.
When I was a child (Catholic) We would go to a Bonfire. We'd have Fireworks and Toffee apples and Guy on the fire. The whole night was a reminder to honour Guy Fawkes at least that is what I thought, haha. 'O if only he blew up Parliament and the King that would have been great!'. Purely because he was a Catholic. Obviously when I was a bit older I learnt the real reason why we celebrated. I was a little off with my reasoning, haha.
You seem surprised that running through the streets with open fires is allowed in the UK, as in the US it is deemed dangerous. Europeans are just as surprised that Americans are allowed to wander the streets with firearms.
Thanksgiving is an old christian feast. As such it was recorded first within the 3rd century AD. Of course, it got a special meaning within the USA because of its' importance for the first settlers.
As a child i always enjoyed the whole event and preparation. collecting wood,discarded furniture etc for the fire (every neighbourhood had their own - there were a lot of vacant spaces just after WWII . making a guy and wheeling him around to collect money for fireworks/sweets.choosing & buying fireworks, then the night itself. standing around a big blazing fire on a cold night with family friends and neighbours watching adults set off all the different fireworks(yours and others). Inside, after,warm drinks and parkin(sticky ginger cake) and bed. when i read in the library how the conspiritors were dealt with and the tortures Fawkes was submitted to i never made another guy and just enjoyed the fire colours and sounds. still do but Health and Safety means more and mor controls on it all and covid this year has put an end to even our town's mass public event. Sad.
At 20:39 the "torture chamber" seems to be an illustration of the methods of the Inquisition, so it's not English. Note that the Catholic Church was not allowed to draw blood, so all their torture and execution methods were based on stretching, pressing, burning, etc, but not wounding or beheading. One of their tortures, called "toquilla" in old Spanish, was a form of waterboarding in which water was poured down a cloth into the prisoner's throat. The amount of water was limited by law, I think it was four jugs or something. So some illustrations of the Inquisition tortures are pure fantasy, but this one seems fairly accurate. But it's a composite so to say, they wouldn't torture several prisoners at the same time.
Love your videos. You grasp things so quickly and have intelligent insights. So nice to see in a world where most people don't bother about understanding anything.
That letter is not in Old English btw. That's already Modern English. Even Middle English would seem like a completely different language to us let alone Old English. Old English was a pure Germanic language spoken during the Anglo-Saxon times without any influence from French which came during the Norman Conquest.
When I was a wee bairn, between the ages of 5 and 10, my parents held a Bonfire Night party (of sorts) for the family and friends. Usually there was a bonfire that we kids were told to stay away from while waiting for the fireworks to start. My father was usually the designated person who set off the fireworks and these came in something called a "selection box". Basically it was a box FULL of these explosive treats, including rockets, a Catherine wheel, sparklers and a shed load more whos names I can't remember any more. Lol Anyway, after the fireworks finished the adults would usually go indoors and us kids would watch the bonfire slowly start to burn down although some people would keep feeding the fire all night long. After an hour or so my mother would come back to the fire with tin foil wrapped potatoes which we would throw into the embers to cook. When they were ready (about 40 minutes later), we would fish the silvery packages out of the fire with sticks and after cautiously opening the foil, as it was always hot, we'd eat the potatoes, skins and all. Eventually we started adding things to the potatoes like beans, coronation chicken, cheese and a load of other foods. It was always a treat and always delicious. Nowadays I don't celebrate Halloween or Bonfire Night as I'm a bit long in the tooth for it and I have a pet cat who is so scared of the fireworks that people set off a week before Halloween and for a week after the 5th of November and then again on Christmas Eve and every day right up until New Year's Day and often beyond.
I think Thanksgiving is a much bigger event because it's a big get together for families in the US. In the UK, Bonfire Night is about going to a public display of fireworks or it's a family (immediate family) event. I've always loved Bonfire Night because of the traditions associated with it. My mum made treacle toffee, my dad roasted chestnuts 'in' the stove, and we had fireworks set off by my dad in the back garden. We had sparklers, and generally, it was a really lovely night.
Between 30th October and 7th November you just hear fireworks outside. Mainly due to lots of professional firework displays happen on different days. Also this year Diwali is on 4th November so even more celebration for the Hindu's. It's the 5th Nov at 7.21 pm right now as I type this and it's sounds like WW3 outside.
Technically no UK in 1605. The English and Scottish monarchies became one in 1603. The UK was founded only when England and Scotland united politically in 1707
No UK in 1707 - it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Wales, Scotland) and Northern Ireland (formerly just Ireland), as noted in 1801. In that sense, the UK is younger than the USA.
As long as I've lived in England, this is my first in depth look at Guy Fawkes, and Bonfire night so I'm just as surprised as you are about all of this, oh my goodness...
I'm getting right giddy for Bonfire Night already as I missed it last year. A rural pub not far from me has a massive bonfire and fireworks every 5th November.🎇🎆🧨🔥
As I watch this the fireworks have been going off outside continuously for about 2 hours now. The whole Lewes thing is new to me. They seem to be mixing a lot of stuff up into one night. Everyone else just has a fire and fireworks.
I think everyone in the UK probably just calls it Bonfire Night. I have never heard it called Guy Fawkes Day (and I have never even heard of the Thanksgiving Act!). Also, it's not a holiday. WE just have the bonfire/fireworks in the afternoon/evening
In regards to the underground. A little known fact is that most major English cities are built on top of old Roman ruins. As a result London in particular has a navigable city below street level that's part medieval ruin part Roman and part caves carved out by the Britons. Same thing here in coventry we have a river that runs under the city its banks and tunnels are full of old houses and sewers the Romans built you can still navigate now. Similar to the catacombs in Paris except instead of empty tunnels full of skulls it's partially collapsed ruins and half flooded aqueducts and sewers
No caves as it's a river flood plain of mud, sand and gravel there's no stone or cliffs that's why they shipped in stone and later bricks from Holland.
@@dave_h_8742 there's quite a few caves under and near London, chiselhurst springs to mind plus the limestone caves the gov locked off in the 50s and I think there's even a few that were turned into bombshelters during the blitz. Though some like chiselhurst are man made
@@SoGal_YT yeah it's mad I remember climbing into the storm drains if my city when I was a kid, it's like slices of history have been crushed together in some places down there, makes you wonder how much forgotten stuff there is down there waiting to be found lol
Indeed, just going to people's home to get a penny for the guy was exciting in it self. Knowing most people were expected us. Not so many came up with the penny though. 🤔 we did manage to buy a few fireworks. Yay!!😊🇬🇧
As a kid in the North end of Birkhenhead remember, remember the 5th of November....and lots of fireworks related injury to other kids,as an animal rescue person ,really do not like 5th November
You should have a look at Lewes Borough Bonfire prayers. All good fun! It was a brilliant night - 10 miles walked, countless torches burnt, a few ciders drunk...excellent!
Not to confuse you to much but we n the U.K. have a habit of lighting fires every where, in shetland they have what can only be described as a Viking night,that’s another one you should check out. Continue the great work I enjoy your videos immensely .Thanks Sean ( as in Connery).
Thanks for the video. We went to the village Cricket Club on Friday (5th November ) where a beacon was lit, and we had a fireworks display. The beacon was the sort of thing used to pass messages centuries ago - a metal cage containing wood to light, atop a metal pole so it would be high enough that, when lit on a cliffe top, it could be seen on the cliffe top a couple of miles away, or inland. That way, there could be a chain of beacons passing messages many miles from the coast. Like when the Sapnish Armada was sighted in 1588 - as a warning mechanism in days when there were no telephones or internet. We use beacons rather than the traditional bonfire now in our village because the bonfire would obviously damage the grass. (We used to have the bonfire on the village green but in these risk-averse days, with houses nearby, the celebrations have been relocated to the cricket gound). The firework display was choreographed to music - both classical music and classic rock, like Queen. A good time was had by all with rockets flying up and illuminating the sky, Roman Candles brightening up the ground etc....
15:20 I know you didn't mean it literally, but that's Early Modern English; Old English was about a thousand years before that and would be much harder to read! 31:52 Remember the idea that you could separate religion from politics would be totally alien until quite recently; there's no distinction between the two. As for why bonfires, they were just a default autumn/winter celebration thing regardless - until a few hundred years ago, England celebrated Twelfth Night on January 6th by having everyone cross-dress and jump over bonfires. 33:48 As I understand it, Lewes just picks whoever's prominent at the time, like the current Prime Minister regardless of party, or (e.g.) in 2001 they burnt Osama Bin Laden instead. It's a bit like being TIME Person of the Year.
@@dave_h_8742 I believe the official stance is that the "-ism" ending hasn't been used in record writings and so cannot be included, nor the "anti-" prefix. However 'disestablishmentarianism' has and was used in 1901, so it's a short hop. 🤗
As someone has already mentioned the anonymous letter sent to Baron Monteagle is modern English. However, 1605 was pretty much the middle period of the great vowel shift and spelling was beginning to become standardised, which is why you are able to read it.
Don't feel so bad .. I'm born and bred in the north of England but until I saw your video (they're all fascinating, by the way) .. I'd never heard of the Lewes bonfire night. November the 5th was always just about Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot. Please keep exploring our history in the UK because I'm lovin' it, too.
The noises outside my house right now are like being in the middle of a war zone, yet my cat is totally indifferent to it, stretched out in front of the fire watching UK Gold and a old episode of " The Good Life".
One cat hated the bangs, had another that loved watching the whizz of the fireworks through the window, once a car went by and a bang went off and she was most disappointed no sky fireworks
Will have to watch again as could hardly hear it as it sounds like a war zone outside at the moment! I can see the Houses of Parliament from where I live and can confirm it is still standing so far 😇
I was joking about it being a War Zone of course but I woke up to headlines like 'Parliament Square protesters clash with police on Bonfire Night'. Anti-establishment protesters were shooting fireworks at Police, 8 of which were injured and 12 arrests were made. Not exactly 'V for Vendetta' but not our usual Bonfire night. PS. maybe you should react to the movie!? Total fiction of course but still a lot of fun.
The first video about the history was very much in American English so a lot of the references, terminology and pronunciation were for a US audience. In the UK, we don't have the same Thanksgiving and a holiday would be a day off work, to put it very simply. Also, the classic mispronounced Worcestershire!!! Nonetheless, a good overview of what we are celebrating, and as you said, scratched the surface of the politics, religion and culture of that period in history.
Here in South Africa we "celebrate" Guy Fawkes but over the past few years it has gone down alot especially with so many of over local media questioning why we even celebrate it at all to most of my friends ( and I would say almost our whole country) we just know it as a day to shoot fireworks, not really going over the history which I doubt many of us are interested in I'm curious if there is any other country that celebrates Guy Fawkes like this?
@@rosemaryhannah3467 because when Britain had the empire it was celebrated in countries they ran and became tradition in a part of them being fair in the UK most people just see it as an excuse to shoot fireworks eat burgers and hot dogs same with New Year eve that is all fireworks now as soon as the clock hits 12 the sky is full of them most young people if you ask them might not even know the religious link to it like with everything religion nowadays its not as practice by the public at large
Love your videos Sarah, it's great to see someone with such an interest in history. As you probably know the first English settlement in America was in 1607, and it was called Jamestown, after the King who had ordered all the torturing that had happened to the gunpowder plotters two years earlier. History really is fascinating 🙂
Bonfires are a big thing everywhere in England but nowhere more than in Lewes (you pronounced it right), although the folks in Northern Ireland would no doubt disagree with this. I used to live near Lewes and I have been to the Lewes bonfire several times. You make sure you go in old clothes because you don't want to get decent clothes accidentally burnt by the sparks. The folks there take it really seriously. The Catholic and Protestant thing is mainly symbolic although some of the bonfire societies can take things too far. For those of you who follow politics in Britain closely one of the Lewes bonfire societies once invited the elder Ian Paisley! There is a November institution in England which is even bigger than Lewes bonfire night and that is Somerset Carnival, which is not just one night, it goes on for two whole weeks. I live in Somerset and am involved in Carnival and you really should check it out. Plenty of stuff on TH-cam and other social media. Over 100,000 people attend the larger carnivals and that is in small towns with a fraction of that population. Oh, and my grandmother's name was Frances Fawkes. A great video and I am not surprised your channel has progressed so much.
I love your very educated take on things you talk about and your desire to learn. You can see now how the Brits ended up with an empire. please post more videos as it is a joy to watch them.
When I was a child at Primary school (Up to the age of 11) we would always have visits from the Fire Brigade before Bonfire Night giving us lessons on safety around fireworks and bonfires. They used to let us play on the fire engines. We always looked forward to those visits. I don't know if they still do it today.
The 17 martyrs were burnt at the stake in the middle of Lewes - this is why there has always been such passion about it in the town. No one else does this!
Unfortunately November 5th it is not really a combination of Thanksgiving and 4th of July as it is not recognised as a public holiday anywhere in the UK, so it is business as usual though with fireworks going off in the evening. I feel that there is something quintessentially British about celebrating nothing happened in November. I heard Guy Fawkes described as "the only person to enter the palace of Westminster with honest motives, a clear agenda, and the means to carry it out" Lewes (pronounced Lewis, you were right first time!) is an interesting town, one of the leaders of the American revolution, Thomas Paine, was a tax official in Lewes for a while before he went off to the USA and France to help the revolutions in both countries. There was also a battle in Lewes in 1264 and part of the 900 year old castle fell down recently. Queen Mary wanted to bring the country back to the Catholic faith that her father, Henry VIII, had split from in order to divorce her mother. In her time hundreds of protestants were burned (alive) at the stake, including 17 from the town of Lewes.
The Lewis Bonfire is not typical of most of the country on Bonfire night. It is a time for families friends to meet up at an organised display more now. As the dark nights arrive with sunset around 6.00 it is a fun event around the warmth of a bonfire with food & drink with wonderful firework displays for children of all ages : )
Be interesting for you to react on the Celts from the King's and Legends channel, very interesting ...always a great subject as a lot of people think Celts are just Irish, Welsh or Scottish which is so far from the truth ...one of the most famous Celts in history was Boudica Queen of the Iceni who lived the South East of England
'Penny for the guy' was a main event as well.. nobody does that now!. The money we earned from that as a child outside the shops!.. we used to make a really beautiful guy... bonfire night, jacket potatoes, toffee apples, sparklers and fireworks in your own garden...
The Protestant martyrs were not all burned at the same time. Lewes was a stronghold of Protestantism and the defeat of a Catholic plot was seen as something to celebrate. It's hard to overestimate the importance of religious conflict in Europe. You should check out the history of the 30 Years' War which started as a religious issue before escalating into a wider geopolitical struggle which decimated Central Europe.
You're right, not all seventeen were executed at the same time. The most executed at once, was ten, the largest mass burning at the stake of people to ever take place in England.
@@lucyrobinson2814 The 17 referred to in this video were all burned in Lewes between 1555 and 1557. Of course, many more protestants were burnt elsewhere in England e.g. Archbishop Thomas Cranmer, Bishops Hugh Latimer and Nicholas Ridley in Oxford, Bishop John Hooper in Gloucester. Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many of them.
I’ve never heard it called Guy Fawkes Day and its not a holiday in England or the UK, and I’m born and bred in the south of England. I also regularly worked at the Lewes bonfire night celebrations when I was a police officer. It was pretty hectic but in my day generally good fun and many families attended. There are many bonfire societies across the towns and villages of Sussex who each hold their own celebrations in the build up to Lewes.
I love how taken/surprised/shocked you are with the difference between the UK and US in how differently we celebrate our cultures, your reactions to the differences between how we each celebrate, having seen your reactions made me realise how the time difference (ages of our countries) means that we celebrate in very different ways, yes there is a much more barbaric nature to the British celebrations generally, if you haven't seen the cheese rolling "sport" (it's held once a year I think it's in Gloucestershire, it's funny but it does make you wince seeing people throwing themselves down a very steep hill to chase a wheel of cheese, you need to watch a video of it to get a better idea of what it is about). Back to Guy Fawkes though, I really like how much you go into detail with the videos that you post, most people wouldn't make such an effort as you do, it really is appreciated, a big thank you for diving in as you do :)
@@SoGal_YT Yeah I think it's easy to see all of the history as if it's still relevant, and pertinent today, it isn't at all, it's certainly baked into it all and gives it its flavour but there's no animosity towards Catholics, and its not like Catholics don't attend bonfires and fireworks displays. And beyond that, Guy Fawke's Night is really the ancient festival of Samhain essentially, and many others like it around Europe - there was an ancient impulse to light big fires around this time of the year. Just as Christmas incorporates elements of (or is built on) ancient winter traditions of bringing greenery into the house as a reminder of life when everything else is cold and dying outside.
Guy Fawkes, was born and schooled in York ( Where I live ), he used to go to St Peters School, which is in the city, Whilst most people burnt a 'Guy', the school used to burn a rowing boat, as they couldn't really burn an ex-pupil on a bonfire ( it's not happened though in a while though tbh ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Peter%27s_School,_York
A lot of fireworks going off in the background as I watch this, quite appropriate :D (The bonfire/fireworks event I'm going to is tomorrow instead; last time I went to this one they were burning a boat in a Viking funeral for some reason...) I believe reason why America doesn't have Bonfire Night (it did before 1776) was George Washington suppressed it in an unsuccessful attempt to persuade the Catholic French in Canada to join the American Revolution.
You should also watch a mini-series that came out not too long ago, I think they called it “Gunpowder” & it was about the gunpowder plot, & had Kit Harrington in it
"They decided to dry some (gun) powder by the fire..." and guess what happened next. I saw the expression on your face there Socal and mine was much the same. These men were brave and tough. just imagine what might have happened if they were competant as well. As regards what was done to the conspiritors: life was pretty hard for everybody back then and death and starvation were constant companions. Punishment had to be worse than that and you could get hanged for stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving children. So attempting to blow up parliament had to get seriously brutal. Lewes is pronounced 'lew-is'. Everybody - please don't go to Lewes for bonfire night. They used to say that everybody was welcome, the mpre the merrier, but it got better and better known and now millions of people turn up to it. Lewes has a population of around 20 000 and just can't cope with the influx. People have tried to outlaw Lewes (on health and safety grounds believe it or not). Lewes folk don't give a f**k. Their motto is "We won't be drove (driven)' and they mean it. The town council installed parking meters which were disliked by the general population. They got blown up. Queen Mary, the original Bloody Mary, daughter of Henry VIII and older sister of Queen Elizabeth I. Yes this was all part of the whole Catholic/Protestant thing. This is all very complicated with lots of international politics going on and I'll leave it to somebody better informed than I to post on it. Another consequence was a 15 years later when a whole load of Protestants got on a boat called The Mayflower and... well you know the rest I'm sure. So it does have it's influence on US. Enjoyed and liked the video, as always. Keep up the good work.
For more fire, bonfire related options, you should check out Bridgwater Carnival and the squibbing that takes place in the town centre (parade of people with fireworks on sticks essentially!)
Hi, the Gunpowder plotters who were captured were certainly severely tortured but this was mainly by means of the rack and would have taken place in the Tower. The picture shown seems more like the Spanish Inquisition than the interrogation of the plotters. After their trial they were executed by means of being hung, drawn and quartered and even if they succeeded in killing themselves beforehand the practice was still carried out on their dead body.
10:40 London has always been relatively urban. The City of London has existed within walls since roman times. Westminster was deliberately built outside the walls, same as the Tower Of London by William the Conqueror. The main thing wrong with the graphic is how much more wide & marshy the Thames was.
member of a Lewes society here - we build our bonfires out of wooden pallets used for shipping and whatnot, this year we even had an old sofa on our bonfire as well...
SoGal: "I'm not saying you guys are doing something dangerous or anything..." Lewes: And here's a bloke dressed as a bishop having lit fireworks chucked at him. SoGal: Oh.
@@samuelterry6354 Actually I don’t really care that much about Martin Luther , I care about the Church maintaining itself against silly humanist foolishness. Our church has been messed uP by us many times, thank God who has set us back on the path despite ourselves.
@@jackochainsaw Protestantism started in 1517 when Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the doors of Schlosskirche Wittenberg (todays Lutherstadt Wittenberg in Saxon-Anhalt, Germany). This was as a reaction against abuses in the sale of indulgences by the Catholic Church. Lutheranism sprang from his theology. The term Protestantism derives from the 1529 letter of protestation from German Lutheran princes against an edict from the Diet of Speyer condemning the teachings of Martin Luther as heretical. The Diet was the deliberative body of the Holy Roman Empire.
@@dlanor9312 Wycliffe and other European proto-protestants were active 150 years before Luther. Our church has a prison built in the 15th century to contain proto-protestants known as Lollards.
What happens in Lewes on 5th Nov is very much a local tradition. Most people in the UK wouldnt know or understand the details of what happens there, including myself. The most common 'celebrations' generally involve a large bonfire in a park or open ground and the setting off of fireworks while eating a slightly stale toffee apple and getting cold feet. Oh! and annoying people letting off fireworks in the middle of the night scaring dogs and light sleepers.
I think you would be surprised to know that even in the USA there was a strong prejudice against Catholics holding positions of power for most of your time as an independent nation. JFK was the first Catholic president I believe.and there was a certain amount of corruption that helped him get there. As for the UK I would say that the actions of Henry 8 th had such an impact on our history going forward that I'm not sure any other monarch has had such an influence anywhere else in history. British history would have been completely different without the actions of Henry 8 that's for sure.
There's a few firey processions in Edinburgh. The one you're thinking of is the Torchlight Procession which takes place on 30th December as part of the Hogmany celebrations but we also have the Samhuinn fire parade on Halloween and Beltane Fire Festival in April. With regards to the Catholic/Protestantism thing, it might be an idea to watch a video on the troubles in Northern Ireland or the Celtic/Rangers football rivalry in Scotland (which is very much fuelled by the religious divide) to get a better understand of why it is, unfortunately, still a thing in the modern day.
When you slapped your forehead at the Archbishop, it looked as though you had a sudden understanding of how Britsh humour works. Don't assume us Brits are always well informed about our history, it's great to see it through anothers' eyes.
Really enjoyed your reaction. Guy fawkes/bonfire night is still well celebrated in England. It normally spills into the weekend so we'll have a couple more nights of bonfire parties and fireworks. It used to be (Before Xbox) that children would make and effigy of Guy Fawkes (like a scarecrow) to be burned, then push it around in a barrow saying "penny for the guy" (I guess a payment for their effort). The effigies of guy fawkes being burned are less popular now and Lewes is the only place that has burning effigies of Paul V. The 'fawkes mask from "V For Vendetta" are sometimes worn in protest as a sign of rebellion. Also the only successful assassination of a prime minister was by John Bellingham in 1812 (which we do not celebrate).
Guy Fawkes day has been diluted to almost nothing these days. The historical significance of it is basically ignored and the day is just a big firework display.
I think that is partially due to the rise in popularity of Halloween in the UK. Children used to cart a Guy Fawkes scarecrow around and ask for money from their neighbours in the days leading up to Nov 5th (and then burn that effigy on a bonfire), but that tradition got phased out in favour of Guising/Trick or Treating, since Halloween and Bonfire Night are so close together.
You, as a pyrotechnician, on a European pyrotechnical theme, I’d recommend searching for “Las Fallas de Valencia” . Neighbourhoods work all year on the “Fallas”, “Falles” in Valencian . All very impressive built over many months, which are all finally burnt with lots of fireworks also . In the run up to the “Las Fallas” is “ Mascletà” . A display of noise and rhythm rather than visuals . So much noise and smoke, all in the centre of the city. Crazy but great fun!
The Catholic vs Protestant thing is still huge in the UK. You only need to look at the problems in Northern Ireland. Or look at the Celtic vs Rangers football teams in Glasgow, Scotland. The current monarchy have a rule that they can't marry a Catholic. A couple of minor royals came out as Catholic and even that made headlines.
I think this was why it was quite difficult for Prince Charles to marry Camilla and he had to get special dispensation . Not only were they both divorced but Camilla is or was Catholic.
I agree unfortunately that the Catholic and Protestant thing is still big in parts of Northern Ireland and parts of the Glasgow area but I definitely can't agree that it's a big thing elsewhere in the country. The fact that the monarch can't be Catholic or marry a Catholic dates back to the aftermath of the Glorious Revolution which was looked at earlier. Also as the monarch is the titular head of the Church of England it would be difficult for them to practice another religion at the same time.
@@christinewright110 hi, no Camilla has always been an Anglican her first husband is a Catholic as are her son and daughter but she never converted. I think the concern over the marriage was that she was divorced not her religion. Hope that's a help.
Guy Fawkes day has a strange origin, but no one in Britain actually celebrates it as the holiday that it was hundreds of years ago anymore, it’s more of a tradition. It’s basically just a night to set off fireworks and light bonfires, which usually happens on November 5th.
Lewes is not the only place that's known for big Bonfire Night celebrations. In Somerset (South West corner of England), there is the Bridgwater Guy Fawkes Carnival, a procession of illuminated, themed 'carts' (floats - named carts, as that's what they originally paraded around on) that goes through the town every year (except the last two years, due to current circumstances). It has been going since the plot was foiled in 1605, although it has evolved over time (many firework and gunpowder safety laws were created because of the town's mishaps, like exploding nearly the whole street while making homemade fireworks) and because of how the county carnival circuits are organised, the town hosts the largest illuminated carnival in Europe. The event ends with Squibbing, a unique firework display where specially-trained people hold fireworks on sticks and shower the streets with sparks.
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For a more modern take on the Protestant/ catholic trouble react to or watch Football Rivalry Celtic V Rangers ,as someone from Glasgow it’s uncomfortable viewing
I am back there are the new year celebrations in Edinburgh and also Up Helly aa which is a tradional Viking ceremony in Shetland ,us brits love a bit of fire lol
Check about the night of St, Bartholomew in France to see how well Catholics and Protestants were getting along...
Did we all notice the bit about raiding the arms store at Warwick castle, two pronunciations that are soooo wrong 😂
East sussex bonfire nights is a quite unique event, many of my friends across the country have described it as "Halloween on steroids".
This event also doesn't just happen on the 5th November, In sussex there is a bonfire night on every saturday from September to late November at each town/village that have a bonfire society. The biggest ones are Hastings, Battle and of course Lewes. Battle is the oldest bonfire society with the Battle bonfire boyes.
That bloke dressed as an Archbishop getting fireworks thrown at him makes you proud to be British. If anyone asks how our small island managed to rule the world just point them in his direction.
No they did'nt , mr Stuart, the 3rd republic ( France, if ya not sure ) might "have a word ",like.
As I watch this in England, I can see and hear rockets, bangers and fireworks going on. My family and I, just had some sparklers.
I love bonfire night, 👍👍👍
I don't even do that much anymore. I close the curtains and try and calm my dog.
@@Eleglas time this nonsense stopped it causes great distress to animals with the noise and fireworks
@@JohnAnderson-ss9vn 100%
just did eastbournes bonfire night (im in the Hastings bonfire society)
It was the old Palace of Westminster which burned down in 1834, the new building was a replacement. Yes still cellars are still there, the medieval cellars were called undercrofts. Parts of the tradition is to inspect them prior to state opening of Parliament.
I know that some of the old floor and cellar still exists, it was my misfortune to have to attend an institute of structural engineers talk on it's restoration, my boss invited me and I had to feign interest, yawn.
Hi Sogal - I was born in Nov 5th, my middle name is Guy, and I was raised as a Roman catholic. However, as I grew up in England, most of my schoolmates were protestants. The birthday parties that I held every Guy Fawkes were a highlight of the year. Denominational differences aren't really a thing in most parts of the UK these days, and I am gladdened to find that the custom of fireworks and bonfires still exists in healthy form.
Thanks for your video - it's always fun to see one's own culture through the eyes of a different culture. England's history is rich but bloody.
Look at every "shop" mr Lubbock, they've all got "form", long after the colonisers fd/off.
When I was a kid in the 1960s it was really common to make a "Guy" in the week before Bonfire Night, and use it to cadge money for fireworks, which was usually just a few old clothes stuffed with rags or whatever to roughly human shape with perhaps a balloon for a head, which we would sit with on the street and ask passers by "penny for the Guy". We never made enough to buy fireworks though, perhaps others did better business, but somehow (parents) there were always rockets and bangers when the evening came. I don’t remember the last time I saw a "Guy", the connection with Guy Fawkes seems to have faded away.
Yep..we used to do the same in the late 70’s, fun times.
Yup the best parts of it all was to make the cart and the guy and go out penny for the guy-ing lol so daft that they banned it classing it as begging
_Conckers_ in October? Banned!
At least you could buy some sweets.
And with the money cadging adults to buy you the fireworks, best spot was at a crossing by the off licence biggie shop we coined it.
"Remember, remember the fifth of November. Gunpowder, treason and plot" This was definitely spoken a few times in my childhood on the 5th...
They say that Guy Fawkes was the first and last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions......English joke.
Catholic joke so lets not bring that back up
@@randommadness1021 With all what is going on with this current government especially, that ain't a bad shout!
It's funny because it's true
My wife went to a Catholic university where she was told that Fawkes was a hero and a martyr. Terrorism is always considered a righteous act by those on the side of the terrorist.
@@ChrisSmith-xh9wb , hardly a hero. He failed miserably.
Tldr, the UK defeated a terrorist attack over 400 years ago and we celebrate it each year.
That drawing of the torture is actually of the Spanish Inquisition carrying out their work (against Protestants); look at their 'red' cloaks and the Catholic crucifix on the right wall (and the Cardinal sat below it)
Oh, lol. Why did they put that in this video?
@@SoGal_YT Probably what they found in a quick search for 'torture' but they apparently didn't examine it too closely.
Also that drawing of people being killed in the streets is actually of French Catholics murdering Huguenots (French Protestants). The survivors fled to Protestant England and thrived
@@SoGal_YT they actually come from English pamphlets published as propaganda against Catholicism.
Most people feared a return to Catholic rule because of Queen Mary 1st, daughter of Henry VIII (Bloody Mary) who tried to reinstate Catholicism when she came to the throne. During her 5 year reign, she had over 300 people burned at the stake for heresy, although this is only the 'official' list from Fox's Book of Martyrs - many hundreds more died in prison, or just went unrecorded.
The British fear of Catholicism ran through our history from the latter half of the 16th century, up to Victorian times - mainly because every monarch from Queen Elizabeth 1st onwards had to deal with Catholic plots to overthrow them and replace with a Catholic monarch/parliament.
The Gunpowder Plot was the third attempt on his life by Catholics in 3 years.
@@gillianrimmer7733 To be fair, a lot of people got put to death for being of the wrong brand of religion under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I too, not just under Mary. People do airbrush out that England had a king when Mary was on the throne - Philip (also king of Spain).
Don't pay too much attention to the Lewes celebration. It may be the self-styled "biggest" bonfire event but it is still only one tiny part of the country. Most of the traditions they talked about have absolutely nothing to do with bonfire night. They are just local customs that they have merged into their way of celebrating the event.
As their "seven societies" are groups associated with seven local pubs, there is the question of how much liquid was imbibed to produce these traditions.
It's your standard Guy Fawkes stuff, with added Lewes martyrs - definitely worth a visit.
Oh, and there are many societies in that part of Sussex, all doing the same thing on a smaller scale.
@@kevinshort3943 Hastings one is quite big
@@kevinshort3943 If throwing fireworks at a tipsy guy wearing priest's robes, burning an effigy of the pope, marching around town with burning torches (like a classic Hammer Horror film) and racing with a burning cart strapped to your back are what you think of "standard Guy Fawkes stuff," then all I can say is that I am glad I'm not from Sussex.
I think Sogal is half convinced now that we all have deep seated sectarian prejudices. There are of course a few hotspots in the country for deeply held protestant-catholic rivalries but for most places it isn't even an issue.
Oh bless... Das Audi Auto window (tinted) licking Uber Kool with a "K" hip trendy Volk (posh) with a "V" enjoy a night away from Ze Bunker after a raid on the dressing up box.
@@zarabada6125
Wooosh......... there it goes, right over your head.
Their reasons are standard Guy Fawkes, they just get a little carried away with the it :)
Nobody I have ever met takes the anti Catholic bit seriously, it just an excuse for a party, and to set light to something.
Only the inbreds in NI and Glasgow take sectarianism seriously.
From my experience, it's not referred to as Guy Fawkes Day, it's Guy Fawkes Night (aka Bonfire Night or Fireworks Night) ... as it's just an evening of parties, fireworks and sometimes bonfires at public displays. Though I do remember a time when the daytime would include the tradition of 'Penny for the Guy' ... kids would put together a dummy/mock-up of a man and ask for loose change from passers by. The dummy would then be thrown on top of the bonfire before it's lit, to burn. I havent seen 'Penny for the Guy' in years, but it was quite common when I was a kid. If I look out my back window right now, I can see fireworks going off all over the place, both a nearby public display and home fireworks :-)
That's my experience too - it always been Guy Fawkes Night, Bonfire Night or Fireworks Night, because apart from preparations for the evening/night nothing happens during the daytime. The point is fireworks and bonfires don't look good during the daytime.
It's also a thing in New Zealand, where it IS refereed to as "Guy Fawkes Day" (though good luck getting people not to say it as "guy fox day" with any consistency)... of course, it's also at the tail end of spring (just before the summer weather starts drying everything out and making fireworks a major hazard in significant portions of the country), so the days are pretty long (leading to most people setting off fireworks the weekend following, rather than on the day itself)...
Of course, it's also more a celebration of the fact that the week before is the only time of year that regular retailers carry fireworks, because it's the only time of year they're allowed to sell (a limited selection of) them to randoms (it's still age limited, mind, but in practice that amounts to something along the lines of 'not obviously a child' rather than rigorous checking of IDs, as from memory the age is lower than the point at which anyone has such (no centralized, unified identification system here, you see)).
As UK kids back in the 'fifties, we used to go out with a crudely-made 'Guy' and do "Penny For The Guy" - virtually it was like begging from passers-by for money to buy fireworks with. The practice was discouraged as, over the years, the sale of fireworks became more and more restricted. Children were barred from buying them many years ago, and now we see fewer and fewer outlets at this time of year, as we are more encouraged to attend an organised firework event, rather than setting off our own in our backyards like we used to. Of course, there were always an unacceptable amount of burns and injuries from amateur firworks back then, which luckily have dropped right down these days, with (generally) tighter restrictions on firework use.
@@SteveParkes-Sparko Yeah, I had the same stuff but remember doing it the 70s. That was probably the last days of " penny or the guy"
@@davidsweeney4021 me and my brother and sister would do penny for the guy in the mid 90's but i think we were probably the last generation to really do it.
Catholics v Protestants was a very big deal in Europe especially in the 16th and 17th centuries, lots of wars were fought over this, such as the 30 years war ( a very nasty war). In England the 16th century was very confusing in England, Henry VIII started it when he formed the Church of England and required everyone to follow it, his son (Edward VI) was even more hardline and enforced this more thouroughly, he however died at a young age and his elder sister (Mary I) succeeded him. She was an arch catholic and tried to turn the clock back, persecuting protestants including the burnings referred to in this video. When she dies Elizabeth I succeeded her and went back to Protestantism , but she was more pragmatic than Edward. This didn't stop some Catholics plotting against her and plotting to remove her and replace her with her cousin, Mary Queen of Scots which resulted in Mary being beheaded.
more pragmatic? elizabeth killed more people than mary
@@boss180888 Bear in mind , Mary only reigned for 5 years where as Elizabeth reigned for 45 years, on a basis of numbers per year Mary is more bloody
@@boss180888 compared to others don't forget the wars in Europe that happened between the sides that killed millions
@@wolf99000 Are you talking WW1& WW2 or the wars of the 16th/17thC and before.? If the latter then 'millions' did not die. Most battles/wars took place between a few 10s of thousands at the most as the logistics of moving men and supplies did not allow for the sort of numbers we saw in the 20th C. For instance it is estimated that William 1st (The Conqueror) had a total of no more than 10000 men with him when he invaded England. Even at the battle of Waterloo the British only numbered about 21000 troops, with about 60000 Prussian and Dutch alongside them. It is estimated that at the end of the day there was about 45000 deaths between all sides.
@@ChiefWizard666 The religious wars of the 16th & 17 centuries were pretty bloody because an army from one side would besiege a town or city and when they broke into it or the town surrendered, anyone who was of the opposite religion was massacred. Germany lost 30% of its population during the 30 years war.
Catesby is pronounced " Kate's-Bee ". Also remember in 1605 the UK Parliament was also the seat of government for the American colonies too, so it was also an attack against you ;-)
The first British colony was established 2 years later
It was a separate English Parliament in 1605 - England and Scotland did not form a United Kingdom until 1707, and Ireland was joined to it in 1801. Mary 1 was King Henry VIIi’s eldest daughter ( by Katherine of Aragon) and was a Catholic - known as Bloody Mary because of her persecution of Protestants. She was succeeded by Elizabeth 1 who was a Protestant - she was the daughter of Henry and Anne Boleyn. When Elizabeth died with no heir, King James VI if Scotland was invited to become King of England as he was descended from Mary Queen of Scots, a relative of Elizabeth. However the nations remained separate, with their own legislatures and judiciaries for another hundred years until the Act of Union. Even today, Scotland has many laws different to England and retains its own legal system.
James Vl of Scotland was the Great, Great Grandson of Henry Vll of England, and was the legitimate heir to the English throne when Elizabeth died.
Twice over, almost, as his parents were cousins, both descended from Henry!!
The Houses of Parliament today is a totally different building. As the original building which Guy Fawkes tried to blow up was largely destroyed by an accidental fire, from an oven overheating in 1834.
not totally, Westminster hall is a thousand years old
@@nathansellars3757 more like 620 odd years old, but still very impressive for it’s age, especially the hammer beam roof.
@@sammygirl5835
The lower part of the walls date from the original build in the 1090s. The upper parts of the wall and the roof are later additions of the age you indicate.
Yes, ironically it was the last laugh from the tax man as it was the old collection of tally sticks with recorded amounts of money transfers. A minister decided they all needed to be disposed of so they used a stove in the undercroft and caused a chimney fire.
Some scholars say that those tally stick records probably had stuff like the ransom paid to free King Richard I and other historic transactions.
I remember years ago as a kid stuffing a ‘Guy’ with paper and wheeling it down the road in a wheelbarrow with a friend to the train station to catch returning commuters for ‘penny for the guy’, in reality we were waiting to catch my dad with a generous offering so he could buy his clothes back before the inevitable burning! Happy days.
Genius!
Yes I used to do this as a child. Just to make money.
Mostly it's either organised bonfires and firework displays in local parks or a family setting off a few fireworks for their children in their own gardens. The history is mostly ignored now and it's just seen as a chance to have some fun. The Lewes stuff is a very localised thing.
Only due to health and safety! When I was a kid you would either people have bonfires in their gardens or gangs of kids would all collect wood to build a huge bonfire in a field for instance though also there was more organised bonfire and firework parades aswell.
I grew up near Lewes in Sussex and many of the streets in Lewes are narrow. There are several Bonfire Societies in Lewes. The one featured in this video is Cliffe Bonfire Society. Cliffe is an area of the town of Lewes. Lewes is the County town of East Sussex
Watching as outside the BOOMS whizzes and BANGS go off.
Same.
@@w0033944 Bit Early, must be Diwali
So it begins. 6.00pm Saturday 5th November 2022.
It's all kicking off in East Anglia. The bangs and swishing of rockets flying off into the night sky.
I can see the Bonfire off in the distant field from my back bedroom.
My sons and the grandchildren have gone off to join the festivities. I stay and watch from the warmth of the house with my cup of tea and memories of so many similar gatherings going back as far as the fifties.
Wow! That was a loud one! ... and pretty close too ... coming in now from all directions ... I'm off to enjoy the displays 😁👋
It all kicks off from 4.30pm on the 5th November in Lewes, east Sussex
Love you looking into the history of this and wanting to learn of it's origins. Bonfire Night is well under way where I am and the poor dog next door is freaking out as the fireworks are VERY loud. Hope everyone stays safe and if you have pets please take good care of them over the next few days. By the way it isn't a holiday, as no time is taken off. It is a night (or now nights as they tend to go on for days after). Watching them from my window as I type this.
The same exact thing is going on where I live, including the dog.
My dog just kicked me in the nuts
Fireworks hell week. Not eco-friendly either - air and noise pollution, not to mention the litter. The clowns who let these off are no better than terrorists.
My dog is terrified of fireworks, so I sympathize.
Things are not as bad as they seem when it comes to firework displays. They are a lot more highly regulated than the lewes video made it seems. You have to have a licence and he given permission by local councils. So much so in many cases it's the council's themselves who put on the display.
Well done for releasing this on the right day of the year 👍
That is an extreme celebration in Lewes! Most people up and down the country just go to a firework display!
This is not a holiday just a night to remember the 5th of November not a public holiday as you would know it and the war between the 2 half's of Christian Church still going on in many parts of Europe not just the UK this is what sent your forefathers to America to get religious freedom
There are a few like this down here - the Rye display is quite similar.
@@Wally-H😂
@@danielabbott2528 And my comment is funny because of what exactly?
I attend the one close by In Battle, East Sussex, the same parades but the bonfire and firework display is held on the actual battlefield of the Battle of Hastings 1066. Its amazing as is Lewes.
Many (I would even say most) places in the UK don't take the historical aspect this seriously. Growing up in the suburbs of London we went to firework displays with music, food stalls, stalls selling light up toys and sometimes a funfair and/or bonfire too. I don't remember ever seeing a 'guy' being burned and certainly no parades with burning barrels and crosses. Usually fireworks are going on locally every night for 4-6 days depending on where the weekend falls relative to the 5th. We mostly call it Firework Night where I'm from.
Shocked you Never had a Guy!
Since i was a child, I've always known the 5th of November to be called bonfire night, not Guy Fawkes Day
In 1605 it was still the English Parliament, the Act of Union was just over 100 years away, so although England and Scotland shared a king they still had separate Parliaments at that time.
Now Scotland has a Parliament, and England doesn’t .
It’s just a fun family celebration. When I was a kid, you’d have a fireworks party in your back garden. Now people are encouraged to go to big community displays for safety reasons.
I live not far from Lewes and I’ve been to Lewes Bonfire loads of times and it is a great experience, although I’ve never been involved in a bonfire society just gone along as a spectator . I think the guy dressed as the Archbishop probably best explained the spirit of it as the idea of carrying on a tradition, even if the origins are no longer relevant and the meaning has changed and is now about burning effigies of contemporary politicians and remembering fallen soldiers at the war memorial.
Probably one of most accurate accounts of November 5th I've found on the internet . Thank you for a great presentation of this event .
When I was a child (Catholic) We would go to a Bonfire. We'd have Fireworks and Toffee apples and Guy on the fire. The whole night was a reminder to honour Guy Fawkes at least that is what I thought, haha. 'O if only he blew up Parliament and the King that would have been great!'. Purely because he was a Catholic. Obviously when I was a bit older I learnt the real reason why we celebrated. I was a little off with my reasoning, haha.
Remember, remember.... happy Guy Fawkes! Keep up the great content, loving it.
You seem surprised that running through the streets with open fires is allowed in the UK, as in the US it is deemed dangerous. Europeans are just as surprised that Americans are allowed to wander the streets with firearms.
Thanksgiving is an old christian feast. As such it was recorded first within the 3rd century AD. Of course, it got a special meaning within the USA because of its' importance for the first settlers.
Didn't know that, thanks.
As a child i always enjoyed the whole event and preparation. collecting wood,discarded furniture etc for the fire (every neighbourhood had their own - there were a lot of vacant spaces just after WWII . making a guy and wheeling him around to collect money for fireworks/sweets.choosing & buying fireworks,
then the night itself. standing around a big blazing fire on a cold night with family friends and neighbours watching adults set off all the different fireworks(yours and others). Inside, after,warm drinks and parkin(sticky ginger cake) and bed. when i read in the library how the conspiritors were dealt with and the tortures Fawkes was submitted to i never made another guy and just enjoyed the fire colours and sounds.
still do but Health and Safety means more and mor controls on it all and covid this year has put an end to even our town's mass public event. Sad.
@@rogerjenkinson7979 I still have a scar on the palm of my left hand for not looking where I was waving my sparkler.
At 20:39 the "torture chamber" seems to be an illustration of the methods of the Inquisition, so it's not English. Note that the Catholic Church was not allowed to draw blood, so all their torture and execution methods were based on stretching, pressing, burning, etc, but not wounding or beheading. One of their tortures, called "toquilla" in old Spanish, was a form of waterboarding in which water was poured down a cloth into the prisoner's throat. The amount of water was limited by law, I think it was four jugs or something.
So some illustrations of the Inquisition tortures are pure fantasy, but this one seems fairly accurate. But it's a composite so to say, they wouldn't torture several prisoners at the same time.
The water causes severe stomach cramps.
Nice to see the catholic church had some standards 😂😂
My first thought was that it was a generic Inquisition illustration, given the monks/friars.
Love your videos. You grasp things so quickly and have intelligent insights. So nice to see in a world where most people don't bother about understanding anything.
That letter is not in Old English btw. That's already Modern English. Even Middle English would seem like a completely different language to us let alone Old English. Old English was a pure Germanic language spoken during the Anglo-Saxon times without any influence from French which came during the Norman Conquest.
yes, I noticed that minor faux pas
I think she just meant it was olde worlde English not Anglo Saxon English.
I concur it's most definitely not old English, it's an older gametical style but not old English by any means
It Is indeed old English from our perspective, it just isn't Old English.
@@jwi1085 yeah whatever.
When I was a wee bairn, between the ages of 5 and 10, my parents held a Bonfire Night party (of sorts) for the family and friends. Usually there was a bonfire that we kids were told to stay away from while waiting for the fireworks to start. My father was usually the designated person who set off the fireworks and these came in something called a "selection box". Basically it was a box FULL of these explosive treats, including rockets, a Catherine wheel, sparklers and a shed load more whos names I can't remember any more. Lol
Anyway, after the fireworks finished the adults would usually go indoors and us kids would watch the bonfire slowly start to burn down although some people would keep feeding the fire all night long.
After an hour or so my mother would come back to the fire with tin foil wrapped potatoes which we would throw into the embers to cook. When they were ready (about 40 minutes later), we would fish the silvery packages out of the fire with sticks and after cautiously opening the foil, as it was always hot, we'd eat the potatoes, skins and all.
Eventually we started adding things to the potatoes like beans, coronation chicken, cheese and a load of other foods. It was always a treat and always delicious.
Nowadays I don't celebrate Halloween or Bonfire Night as I'm a bit long in the tooth for it and I have a pet cat who is so scared of the fireworks that people set off a week before Halloween and for a week after the 5th of November and then again on Christmas Eve and every day right up until New Year's Day and often beyond.
Those Bonfire foil wrapped spuds were the best!
@@lorraineyoung102 they certainly were. 😋 Yummy
Penny for the guy SoGal! :)
YOU'RE GREAT! :) Thank you for your posts... I'm from Lewes East Sussex originally... wonderful night out! x
I think Thanksgiving is a much bigger event because it's a big get together for families in the US. In the UK, Bonfire Night is about going to a public display of fireworks or it's a family (immediate family) event. I've always loved Bonfire Night because of the traditions associated with it. My mum made treacle toffee, my dad roasted chestnuts 'in' the stove, and we had fireworks set off by my dad in the back garden. We had sparklers, and generally, it was a really lovely night.
They were making Toffee Apples on This Morning , This Morning (Val always used to do them on Blue Peter in the 1960s)
Very enjoyable, well done,,
Bonfire night really runs deep, we used to have fires in the streets until quite recently.
Between 30th October and 7th November you just hear fireworks outside. Mainly due to lots of professional firework displays happen on different days. Also this year Diwali is on 4th November so even more celebration for the Hindu's. It's the 5th Nov at 7.21 pm right now as I type this and it's sounds like WW3 outside.
Technically no UK in 1605. The English and Scottish monarchies became one in 1603. The UK was founded only when England and Scotland united politically in 1707
Alot of videos online seem to use the terms interchangably for some reason.
I believe it was Great Britain in 1707,
Then The U.K. in 1801, when Ireland joined. Safest to say Britain.
@@Themanyfacesofego I believe you may be right.
No UK in 1707 - it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Wales, Scotland) and Northern Ireland (formerly just Ireland), as noted in 1801. In that sense, the UK is younger than the USA.
As long as I've lived in England, this is my first in depth look at Guy Fawkes, and Bonfire night so I'm just as surprised as you are about all of this, oh my goodness...
I'm getting right giddy for Bonfire Night already as I missed it last year. A rural pub not far from me has a massive bonfire and fireworks every 5th November.🎇🎆🧨🔥
As I watch this the fireworks have been going off outside continuously for about 2 hours now.
The whole Lewes thing is new to me. They seem to be mixing a lot of stuff up into one night. Everyone else just has a fire and fireworks.
I think everyone in the UK probably just calls it Bonfire Night. I have never heard it called Guy Fawkes Day (and I have never even heard of the Thanksgiving Act!). Also, it's not a holiday. WE just have the bonfire/fireworks in the afternoon/evening
In regards to the underground. A little known fact is that most major English cities are built on top of old Roman ruins. As a result London in particular has a navigable city below street level that's part medieval ruin part Roman and part caves carved out by the Britons. Same thing here in coventry we have a river that runs under the city its banks and tunnels are full of old houses and sewers the Romans built you can still navigate now. Similar to the catacombs in Paris except instead of empty tunnels full of skulls it's partially collapsed ruins and half flooded aqueducts and sewers
No caves as it's a river flood plain of mud, sand and gravel there's no stone or cliffs that's why they shipped in stone and later bricks from Holland.
I just watched "Darkest Hour" over on my Patreon, and I saw the War Room was underground. Didn't know that was a thing.
@@dave_h_8742 there's quite a few caves under and near London, chiselhurst springs to mind plus the limestone caves the gov locked off in the 50s and I think there's even a few that were turned into bombshelters during the blitz. Though some like chiselhurst are man made
@@SoGal_YT yeah it's mad I remember climbing into the storm drains if my city when I was a kid, it's like slices of history have been crushed together in some places down there, makes you wonder how much forgotten stuff there is down there waiting to be found lol
As children we used to make a guy and tout it around asking a penny for the guy, not seen children doing it for years, now more commercial.
Indeed, just going to people's home to get a penny for the guy was exciting in it self. Knowing most people were expected us. Not so many came up with the penny though. 🤔 we did manage to buy a few fireworks. Yay!!😊🇬🇧
As a kid in the North end of Birkhenhead remember, remember the 5th of November....and lots of fireworks related injury to other kids,as an animal rescue person ,really do not like 5th November
@@eamonnclabby7067 - Sticky space bar?
For a closer relationship between the English and fire you should react to the Tar Barrels Of Ottery St. Mary.
Thanks
Or Bob Mortimer's Would I Lie To You? Lol
The only bonfire night where burning barrels are carried on the shoulders of locals . We were there last week
You should have a look at Lewes Borough Bonfire prayers. All good fun!
It was a brilliant night - 10 miles walked, countless torches burnt, a few ciders drunk...excellent!
Not to confuse you to much but we n the U.K. have a habit of lighting fires every where, in shetland they have what can only be described as a Viking night,that’s another one you should check out. Continue the great work I enjoy your videos immensely .Thanks Sean ( as in Connery).
Yes the Viking celebration is called UP HELLY-A (apologies if spelt incorrectly)
Thanks for the video. We went to the village Cricket Club on Friday (5th November ) where a beacon was lit, and we had a fireworks display. The beacon was the sort of thing used to pass messages centuries ago - a metal cage containing wood to light, atop a metal pole so it would be high enough that, when lit on a cliffe top, it could be seen on the cliffe top a couple of miles away, or inland. That way, there could be a chain of beacons passing messages many miles from the coast. Like when the Sapnish Armada was sighted in 1588 - as a warning mechanism in days when there were no telephones or internet. We use beacons rather than the traditional bonfire now in our village because the bonfire would obviously damage the grass. (We used to have the bonfire on the village green but in these risk-averse days, with houses nearby, the celebrations have been relocated to the cricket gound).
The firework display was choreographed to music - both classical music and classic rock, like Queen. A good time was had by all with rockets flying up and illuminating the sky, Roman Candles brightening up the ground etc....
15:20 I know you didn't mean it literally, but that's Early Modern English; Old English was about a thousand years before that and would be much harder to read!
31:52 Remember the idea that you could separate religion from politics would be totally alien until quite recently; there's no distinction between the two. As for why bonfires, they were just a default autumn/winter celebration thing regardless - until a few hundred years ago, England celebrated Twelfth Night on January 6th by having everyone cross-dress and jump over bonfires.
33:48 As I understand it, Lewes just picks whoever's prominent at the time, like the current Prime Minister regardless of party, or (e.g.) in 2001 they burnt Osama Bin Laden instead. It's a bit like being TIME Person of the Year.
My granddad was definitely an antidisestablishmentarian. 😁
@@AlBarzUK double neg proven on QI to be rubbish and not in the O.E.D.
@@dave_h_8742 I believe the official stance is that the "-ism" ending hasn't been used in record writings and so cannot be included, nor the "anti-" prefix.
However 'disestablishmentarianism' has and was used in 1901, so it's a short hop. 🤗
As someone has already mentioned the anonymous letter sent to Baron Monteagle is modern English. However, 1605 was pretty much the middle period of the great vowel shift and spelling was beginning to become standardised, which is why you are able to read it.
@@AlBarzUK Correct win a point for both 🎇🎇
Don't feel so bad .. I'm born and bred in the north of England but until I saw your video (they're all fascinating, by the way) .. I'd never heard of the Lewes bonfire night.
November the 5th was always just about Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot.
Please keep exploring our history in the UK because I'm lovin' it, too.
The noises outside my house right now are like being in the middle of a war zone, yet my cat is totally indifferent to it, stretched out in front of the fire watching UK Gold and a old episode of " The Good Life".
One cat hated the bangs, had another that loved watching the whizz of the fireworks through the window, once a car went by and a bang went off and she was most disappointed no sky fireworks
Our first cat used to go outside and sit on the wall to watch the display.
I’ve been involved in the Lewes Bonfire Night. I played in one of the bands playing. Once someone nearly chucked a banger down my tuba!!! 😊
Will have to watch again as could hardly hear it as it sounds like a war zone outside at the moment! I can see the Houses of Parliament from where I live and can confirm it is still standing so far 😇
I was joking about it being a War Zone of course but I woke up to headlines like 'Parliament Square protesters clash with police on Bonfire Night'. Anti-establishment protesters were shooting fireworks at Police, 8 of which were injured and 12 arrests were made. Not exactly 'V for Vendetta' but not our usual Bonfire night. PS. maybe you should react to the movie!? Total fiction of course but still a lot of fun.
The first video about the history was very much in American English so a lot of the references, terminology and pronunciation were for a US audience. In the UK, we don't have the same Thanksgiving and a holiday would be a day off work, to put it very simply. Also, the classic mispronounced Worcestershire!!!
Nonetheless, a good overview of what we are celebrating, and as you said, scratched the surface of the politics, religion and culture of that period in history.
Here in South Africa we "celebrate" Guy Fawkes but over the past few years it has gone down alot especially with so many of over local media questioning why we even celebrate it at all to most of my friends ( and I would say almost our whole country) we just know it as a day to shoot fireworks, not really going over the history which I doubt many of us are interested in I'm curious if there is any other country that celebrates Guy Fawkes like this?
Why would other countries 'celebrate' it. Guy Fawkes was an English man who, with his fellow conspirators tried to blow up the English parliament.
@@rosemaryhannah3467 Your guess is as good as mine
Catesby is not pronounced with a short 'a'. So think 'kates-bee'.
@@rosemaryhannah3467 because when Britain had the empire it was celebrated in countries they ran and became tradition in a part of them
being fair in the UK most people just see it as an excuse to shoot fireworks eat burgers and hot dogs same with New Year eve that is all fireworks now as soon as the clock hits 12 the sky is full of them
most young people if you ask them might not even know the religious link to it
like with everything religion nowadays its not as practice by the public at large
Definitely in Scotland and Wales.
Love your videos Sarah, it's great to see someone with such an interest in history. As you probably know the first English settlement in America was in 1607, and it was called Jamestown, after the King who had ordered all the torturing that had happened to the gunpowder plotters two years earlier. History really is fascinating 🙂
Bonfires are a big thing everywhere in England but nowhere more than in Lewes (you pronounced it right), although the folks in Northern Ireland would no doubt disagree with this. I used to live near Lewes and I have been to the Lewes bonfire several times. You make sure you go in old clothes because you don't want to get decent clothes accidentally burnt by the sparks. The folks there take it really seriously. The Catholic and Protestant thing is mainly symbolic although some of the bonfire societies can take things too far. For those of you who follow politics in Britain closely one of the Lewes bonfire societies once invited the elder Ian Paisley!
There is a November institution in England which is even bigger than Lewes bonfire night and that is Somerset Carnival, which is not just one night, it goes on for two whole weeks. I live in Somerset and am involved in Carnival and you really should check it out. Plenty of stuff on TH-cam and other social media. Over 100,000 people attend the larger carnivals and that is in small towns with a fraction of that population.
Oh, and my grandmother's name was Frances Fawkes.
A great video and I am not surprised your channel has progressed so much.
Northern Ireland doesn't really do Guy Fawkes night, they do their bonfires on July 12th for a different reason!
I love your very educated take on things you talk about and your desire to learn. You can see now how the Brits ended up with an empire. please post more videos as it is a joy to watch them.
When I was a child at Primary school (Up to the age of 11) we would always have visits from the Fire Brigade before Bonfire Night giving us lessons on safety around fireworks and bonfires. They used to let us play on the fire engines. We always looked forward to those visits. I don't know if they still do it today.
The 17 martyrs were burnt at the stake in the middle of Lewes - this is why there has always been such passion about it in the town. No one else does this!
Unfortunately November 5th it is not really a combination of Thanksgiving and 4th of July as it is not recognised as a public holiday anywhere in the UK, so it is business as usual though with fireworks going off in the evening. I feel that there is something quintessentially British about celebrating nothing happened in November. I heard Guy Fawkes described as "the only person to enter the palace of Westminster with honest motives, a clear agenda, and the means to carry it out"
Lewes (pronounced Lewis, you were right first time!) is an interesting town, one of the leaders of the American revolution, Thomas Paine, was a tax official in Lewes for a while before he went off to the USA and France to help the revolutions in both countries. There was also a battle in Lewes in 1264 and part of the 900 year old castle fell down recently. Queen Mary wanted to bring the country back to the Catholic faith that her father, Henry VIII, had split from in order to divorce her mother. In her time hundreds of protestants were burned (alive) at the stake, including 17 from the town of Lewes.
I didn't realize it wasn't a holiday.
The Lewis Bonfire is not typical of most of the country on Bonfire night. It is a time for families friends to meet up at an organised display more now. As the dark nights arrive with sunset around 6.00 it is a fun event around the warmth of a bonfire with food & drink with wonderful firework displays for children of all ages : )
Be interesting for you to react on the Celts from the King's and Legends channel, very interesting ...always a great subject as a lot of people think Celts are just Irish, Welsh or Scottish which is so far from the truth ...one of the most famous Celts in history was Boudica Queen of the Iceni who lived the South East of England
'Penny for the guy' was a main event as well.. nobody does that now!. The money we earned from that as a child outside the shops!.. we used to make a really beautiful guy... bonfire night, jacket potatoes, toffee apples, sparklers and fireworks in your own garden...
The Protestant martyrs were not all burned at the same time. Lewes was a stronghold of Protestantism and the defeat of a Catholic plot was seen as something to celebrate.
It's hard to overestimate the importance of religious conflict in Europe. You should check out the history of the 30 Years' War which started as a religious issue before escalating into a wider geopolitical struggle which decimated Central Europe.
You're right, not all seventeen were executed at the same time. The most executed at once, was ten, the largest mass burning at the stake of people to ever take place in England.
And not all in Lewes. I've always found it amazing to know that a group were burnt to death in my little village of Mayfield.
@@lucyrobinson2814 The 17 referred to in this video were all burned in Lewes between 1555 and 1557. Of course, many more protestants were burnt elsewhere in England e.g. Archbishop Thomas Cranmer, Bishops Hugh Latimer and Nicholas Ridley in Oxford, Bishop John Hooper in Gloucester. Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many of them.
I’ve never heard it called Guy Fawkes Day and its not a holiday in England or the UK, and I’m born and bred in the south of England. I also regularly worked at the Lewes bonfire night celebrations when I was a police officer. It was pretty hectic but in my day generally good fun and many families attended. There are many bonfire societies across the towns and villages of Sussex who each hold their own celebrations in the build up to Lewes.
I love how taken/surprised/shocked you are with the difference between the UK and US in how differently we celebrate our cultures, your reactions to the differences between how we each celebrate, having seen your reactions made me realise how the time difference (ages of our countries) means that we celebrate in very different ways, yes there is a much more barbaric nature to the British celebrations generally, if you haven't seen the cheese rolling "sport" (it's held once a year I think it's in Gloucestershire, it's funny but it does make you wince seeing people throwing themselves down a very steep hill to chase a wheel of cheese, you need to watch a video of it to get a better idea of what it is about).
Back to Guy Fawkes though, I really like how much you go into detail with the videos that you post, most people wouldn't make such an effort as you do, it really is appreciated, a big thank you for diving in as you do :)
That’s a great point about how the age of a country influences things like this.
@@SoGal_YT Yeah I think it's easy to see all of the history as if it's still relevant, and pertinent today, it isn't at all, it's certainly baked into it all and gives it its flavour but there's no animosity towards Catholics, and its not like Catholics don't attend bonfires and fireworks displays. And beyond that, Guy Fawke's Night is really the ancient festival of Samhain essentially, and many others like it around Europe - there was an ancient impulse to light big fires around this time of the year. Just as Christmas incorporates elements of (or is built on) ancient winter traditions of bringing greenery into the house as a reminder of life when everything else is cold and dying outside.
Guy Fawkes, was born and schooled in York ( Where I live ), he used to go to St Peters School, which is in the city, Whilst most people burnt a 'Guy', the school used to burn a rowing boat, as they couldn't really burn an ex-pupil on a bonfire ( it's not happened though in a while though tbh )
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Peter%27s_School,_York
A lot of fireworks going off in the background as I watch this, quite appropriate :D (The bonfire/fireworks event I'm going to is tomorrow instead; last time I went to this one they were burning a boat in a Viking funeral for some reason...) I believe reason why America doesn't have Bonfire Night (it did before 1776) was George Washington suppressed it in an unsuccessful attempt to persuade the Catholic French in Canada to join the American Revolution.
Interesting, I didn't know we used to have it.
"Penny for the Guy" was the refrain we would shout to get some coppers for fireworks. But usually ended up at the Sweet Shop.
Nobody in England has ever called it Guy Fawkes *Day*, it’s always Guy Fawkes Night.
You should also watch a mini-series that came out not too long ago, I think they called it “Gunpowder” & it was about the gunpowder plot, & had Kit Harrington in it
"They decided to dry some (gun) powder by the fire..." and guess what happened next. I saw the expression on your face there Socal and mine was much the same. These men were brave and tough. just imagine what might have happened if they were competant as well.
As regards what was done to the conspiritors: life was pretty hard for everybody back then and death and starvation were constant companions. Punishment had to be worse than that and you could get hanged for stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving children. So attempting to blow up parliament had to get seriously brutal.
Lewes is pronounced 'lew-is'.
Everybody - please don't go to Lewes for bonfire night. They used to say that everybody was welcome, the mpre the merrier, but it got better and better known and now millions of people turn up to it. Lewes has a population of around 20 000 and just can't cope with the influx.
People have tried to outlaw Lewes (on health and safety grounds believe it or not). Lewes folk don't give a f**k. Their motto is "We won't be drove (driven)' and they mean it. The town council installed parking meters which were disliked by the general population. They got blown up.
Queen Mary, the original Bloody Mary, daughter of Henry VIII and older sister of Queen Elizabeth I. Yes this was all part of the whole Catholic/Protestant thing. This is all very complicated with lots of international politics going on and I'll leave it to somebody better informed than I to post on it. Another consequence was a 15 years later when a whole load of Protestants got on a boat called The Mayflower and... well you know the rest I'm sure. So it does have it's influence on US.
Enjoyed and liked the video, as always. Keep up the good work.
For more fire, bonfire related options, you should check out Bridgwater Carnival and the squibbing that takes place in the town centre (parade of people with fireworks on sticks essentially!)
Hi, the Gunpowder plotters who were captured were certainly severely tortured but this was mainly by means of the rack and would have taken place in the Tower. The picture shown seems more like the Spanish Inquisition than the interrogation of the plotters. After their trial they were executed by means of being hung, drawn and quartered and even if they succeeded in killing themselves beforehand the practice was still carried out on their dead body.
As I have a slight obsession with fire, bonfire night is just perfect 💯
10:40 London has always been relatively urban. The City of London has existed within walls since roman times. Westminster was deliberately built outside the walls, same as the Tower Of London by William the Conqueror. The main thing wrong with the graphic is how much more wide & marshy the Thames was.
William the conqueror also outlawed slavery in England
member of a Lewes society here - we build our bonfires out of wooden pallets used for shipping and whatnot, this year we even had an old sofa on our bonfire as well...
SoGal: "I'm not saying you guys are doing something dangerous or anything..."
Lewes: And here's a bloke dressed as a bishop having lit fireworks chucked at him.
SoGal: Oh.
Protestantism, wasn’t started by Henry VIII but by a German preacher called Martin Luther.
There were several different movements. The Lutherans were one part of the puzzle.
And he also never ordered everyone in England to convert. Protestants were still a minority until Queen Elizabeth I.
@@samuelterry6354 Actually I don’t really care that much about Martin Luther , I care about the Church maintaining itself against silly humanist foolishness. Our church has been messed uP by us many times, thank God who has set us back on the path despite ourselves.
@@jackochainsaw Protestantism started in 1517 when Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the doors of Schlosskirche Wittenberg (todays Lutherstadt Wittenberg in Saxon-Anhalt, Germany). This was as a reaction against abuses in the sale of indulgences by the Catholic Church. Lutheranism sprang from his theology.
The term Protestantism derives from the 1529 letter of protestation from German Lutheran princes against an edict from the Diet of Speyer condemning the teachings of Martin Luther as heretical. The Diet was the deliberative body of the Holy Roman Empire.
@@dlanor9312 Wycliffe and other European proto-protestants were active 150 years before Luther. Our church has a prison built in the 15th century to contain proto-protestants known as Lollards.
What happens in Lewes on 5th Nov is very much a local tradition. Most people in the UK wouldnt know or understand the details of what happens there, including myself. The most common 'celebrations' generally involve a large bonfire in a park or open ground and the setting off of fireworks while eating a slightly stale toffee apple and getting cold feet. Oh! and annoying people letting off fireworks in the middle of the night scaring dogs and light sleepers.
I think you would be surprised to know that even in the USA there was a strong prejudice against Catholics holding positions of power for most of your time as an independent nation. JFK was the first Catholic president I believe.and there was a certain amount of corruption that helped him get there. As for the UK I would say that the actions of Henry 8 th had such an impact on our history going forward that I'm not sure any other monarch has had such an influence anywhere else in history. British history would have been completely different without the actions of Henry 8 that's for sure.
There's even more prejudice against athiests holging positions of power
It's Bonfire night and it is in full flow as I am watching this and it fits in nicely,!
There's a few firey processions in Edinburgh. The one you're thinking of is the Torchlight Procession which takes place on 30th December as part of the Hogmany celebrations but we also have the Samhuinn fire parade on Halloween and Beltane Fire Festival in April.
With regards to the Catholic/Protestantism thing, it might be an idea to watch a video on the troubles in Northern Ireland or the Celtic/Rangers football rivalry in Scotland (which is very much fuelled by the religious divide) to get a better understand of why it is, unfortunately, still a thing in the modern day.
I think Burns Night is what I was referring to. I was having a mind blank at the time.
Both in NI and Scotland there's an ethnic divide, not a religious one, religion is just used as an identifier of ethnicity
@@fyrdman2185 An ethnic divide? Between which ethnicities?
Good to see you posting, I thought that Holy Roman Empire video broke you 😂
When you slapped your forehead at the Archbishop, it looked as though you had a sudden understanding of how Britsh humour works. Don't assume us Brits are always well informed about our history, it's great to see it through anothers' eyes.
Really enjoyed your reaction. Guy fawkes/bonfire night is still well celebrated in England. It normally spills into the weekend so we'll have a couple more nights of bonfire parties and fireworks. It used to be (Before Xbox) that children would make and effigy of Guy Fawkes (like a scarecrow) to be burned, then push it around in a barrow saying "penny for the guy" (I guess a payment for their effort). The effigies of guy fawkes being burned are less popular now and Lewes is the only place that has burning effigies of Paul V. The 'fawkes mask from "V For Vendetta" are sometimes worn in protest as a sign of rebellion. Also the only successful assassination of a prime minister was by John Bellingham in 1812 (which we do not celebrate).
Guy Fawkes day has been diluted to almost nothing these days. The historical significance of it is basically ignored and the day is just a big firework display.
I think that is partially due to the rise in popularity of Halloween in the UK. Children used to cart a Guy Fawkes scarecrow around and ask for money from their neighbours in the days leading up to Nov 5th (and then burn that effigy on a bonfire), but that tradition got phased out in favour of Guising/Trick or Treating, since Halloween and Bonfire Night are so close together.
You, as a pyrotechnician, on a European pyrotechnical theme, I’d recommend searching for “Las Fallas de Valencia” . Neighbourhoods work all year on the “Fallas”, “Falles” in Valencian . All very impressive built over many months, which are all finally burnt with lots of fireworks also . In the run up to the “Las Fallas” is “ Mascletà” . A display of noise and rhythm rather than visuals . So much noise and smoke, all in the centre of the city. Crazy but great fun!
The Catholic vs Protestant thing is still huge in the UK. You only need to look at the problems in Northern Ireland. Or look at the Celtic vs Rangers football teams in Glasgow, Scotland.
The current monarchy have a rule that they can't marry a Catholic. A couple of minor royals came out as Catholic and even that made headlines.
I don't think it's about religion as such now, more like traditions.
I think this was why it was quite difficult for Prince Charles to marry Camilla and he had to get special dispensation . Not only were they both divorced but Camilla is or was Catholic.
Scotland definitely has an anti Catholic problem.
I agree unfortunately that the Catholic and Protestant thing is still big in parts of Northern Ireland and parts of the Glasgow area but I definitely can't agree that it's a big thing elsewhere in the country. The fact that the monarch can't be Catholic or marry a Catholic dates back to the aftermath of the Glorious Revolution which was looked at earlier. Also as the monarch is the titular head of the Church of England it would be difficult for them to practice another religion at the same time.
@@christinewright110 hi, no Camilla has always been an Anglican her first husband is a Catholic as are her son and daughter but she never converted. I think the concern over the marriage was that she was divorced not her religion. Hope that's a help.
Guy Fawkes day has a strange origin, but no one in Britain actually celebrates it as the holiday that it was hundreds of years ago anymore, it’s more of a tradition.
It’s basically just a night to set off fireworks and light bonfires, which usually happens on November 5th.
Love your down to earth intellectual reactions but the second video isn't typical of bonfire night in the UK
Lewes is not the only place that's known for big Bonfire Night celebrations. In Somerset (South West corner of England), there is the Bridgwater Guy Fawkes Carnival, a procession of illuminated, themed 'carts' (floats - named carts, as that's what they originally paraded around on) that goes through the town every year (except the last two years, due to current circumstances). It has been going since the plot was foiled in 1605, although it has evolved over time (many firework and gunpowder safety laws were created because of the town's mishaps, like exploding nearly the whole street while making homemade fireworks) and because of how the county carnival circuits are organised, the town hosts the largest illuminated carnival in Europe. The event ends with Squibbing, a unique firework display where specially-trained people hold fireworks on sticks and shower the streets with sparks.