thescinema I have a stock 2500 and thinking of buying a K to overclock. My computer is still running find, but I’d like M2 SSD capability. The price of a new CPU/Mobo when they’re not that far ahead is hard to swallow
@@stevebean1234 They're not far ahead? In this test the top end is nearly 50% faster. That's excellent for cpu performance and that's only in 2017. Now you can get a 6/12 thread 3600 cpu and get 50-60%+ for $200-400 and be good for another 8-9 years.
richr161 not for the games I play. Multi threading is nearly useless for them, so stacking cores won’t do me much good. I think I may benefit from modern RAM and M2 SSD speeds, but having to buy those along with a $150 CPU and $150 MoBo is borderline more than I want to spend. Haven’t decided yet.
@@stevebean1234What games are those? Mostly everything uses more than 4/4 threads. Also min framerates matter. I had a 2500k excellent chip good framerate, but the min framerate was suffering. The biggest difference i noticed from upgrading was games were smoother not just higher frame rates. Also its a moot point if you have a 60hz monitor as basically any cpu can push most games to that frame rate. no reason to buy a cpu.
Tech Wiz Master well I can tell you that the 290x is holding well. My MSI 290x is getting locked 60fps ultra at 1440p on pretty much most modern games. An exception for me is GTA V where I run it on high settings and it stays at 60fps most the time. Apart from in the city but I think my i5 3570k is bottlenecking there. But would love to see a more extensive look at it.
How hot does it run? my reference 290x could almost heat my house in winter. and its deafening. awesome performance for what i paid for it though. Having said that, ill never buy a reference design card ever again
Grant Hogan mine stays pretty cool if it's not running an overclock. But once I bump the core to 1150mhz it hits around 87 degrees and if I play for long enough it'll slowly go up to 94 degrees especially in summer.
In terms of reducing temperature google for better performing thermal paste and stuff like "delid CPU", "CPU heatsink/die lapping", "all-in-one watercoolers". All this stuff is pretty cheap to achieve but it needs a little bravery to treat a fragile cpu like that. Coming from a guy who just beheaded his i5-3570k and runs 4.8ghz on air O;O Ofcourse you'll find a lot of youtube videos on this also.
Tomcat, he doesn't even need to do that (or rather he can't) - SandyBridge chips ran a soldered IHS so you don't need to delid it. I gave my old system to my brother which is a 2500k @5GHz - runs perfect to this day :D
That's not really true. Most of the games we've been working with are not that reliable with either new API just yet. DOOM is an exception, most the time. BF1 has issues with frametimes at the low-end, so it doesn't much matter what CPU or GPU you have as the implementation is so poor.
Gamers Nexus You can't blame the CPU for Devs f*cking up their API implementation. Also using an AMD GPU will help a lot with DX12 and Vulcan. You should test CPU Bottlenecks in Low-Level-APIs with some GPUs actully! :)
+Gamers Nexus not really in the topic, but have you tested GTX 1060/Rx 480 with current i3 processors? Usually, you isolate one component, like CPU in this video and maximize the other (GTX 1080 here) and it is hard to find mid-range + mid-range combo.
Who blamed the CPU? We have done many of those tests. You are welcome to check the website for them. Our GPU reviews contain several Dx12, Vulkan, and OpenGL tests.
And people are questioning why PC sales are declining. Calling it "PC is dead" It's just that people already have a machine that is good enough. Except for the extreme enthusiasts, gamers are fine with the performance of a 4 year old chip. And the PC gaming market is growing.
Exactly the video I wanted to see! This is why I love Gamer Nexus!!! :D And Digital Foundries. I'm still running the 2500K@4.5GHz too. Looking to upgrade to Ryzen. I think it's time now.
Even at 1440p 144hz the i5 2500k struggles. Playing Witcher 3, with maxxed out settings and Hairworks turned on so the frame rate would be lower, the i5 2500k was bottlenecking my GTX 1080. Happy to have upgraded.
Did he specify a memory overclock somewhere in there? Because these newer processors have far faster memory, and older reviews that I've seen pointed out that a DDR3 memory overclock to 2133mhz or higher had a bigger impact on FPS in most games than the overclocking the CPU clock for a 2500k.
Razor2048 As much as I like this processor family, I can understand why they wouldn't review it. Despite it being an unlocked 6 core CPU, the Phenom II X6 lacks support for all modern instruction sets. It is also outperformed or matched by the Piledriver FX series and Sandy Bridge Core series. Given how aged those processors are, it makes sense to leave the Phenoms in the dust.
I just upgraded rig of my brother (he is not very demanding user with HD 7870 Ghz and Phenom 1090T because he used to had AM3 board, its working ok. but I am awaiting for 3 120mm fans (cpu cooler is artic A32) so I will OCed it for sure
Razor2048 I have the Phenom II x2 560 or something and a gtx970 (stupid, I know) and I was testing the GPU and was watching both CPU and GPU usage . . . GPU usage jumped up to 100, CPU followed. oops.
Anti Duck Unless your main game is arma 3 that would have been a dumb move lol. Arma 3 and DayZ standalone both love high clock speeds and those are my main games so when I build my new PC it’s definitely going to have the new 8600k running at 4.8Ghz! :) I would opt for a used 4790k but nobody wants to sell them for a reasonable price
The difference is there (and significant % increase for some of the games), but what I seeing is unless you are gaming on a 120+Hz gaming monitor, the 2500/2600k CPU duo can still solider on at this point in time.
To be honest: I only understand half of the tech-jibberish you're talking about, since I'm not too deep into the materia, although knowing enough stuff about GPUs, CPUs, PSUs and so on in order to help friends and relatives with their problems. But what I really like to point out, is the effort you're putting into each and every video and article you're releasing. This is insane! I like Bitwit and JayZ as well and they do get slightly more in the factor of entertainment, but if it's about knowledge and explanation, your vids and articles just blow my f*cking mind. Each time. That's why you've got sourself another subscriber today and I will highly recommend your channel to everyone who's asking for benches or some deeper knowledge about the whole materia.
Steve, im currently using i7-4770k @ 4.5, do you think next generation of coffeelake / cannonlake will make any change or we will see same thing as with i7-7700k?
I like the term Zen so much better. It rolls of the tongue so smoothly, and gives you an impression of what the cpu series is capable of. But you hear Ryzen, and you're like tf is that shit?
Zen is a peaceful meditative philosophy, something that hardly conjures images of high performance, you want your CPU to punch through your tasks, not meditate on them taking its time. Ryzen sounds like Phoenix rising from the ashes, something curiously apt for what this processor *has* to do for AMD CPU division in its current state. I think Ryzen is a uniquely good marketing name. But still, if i get a Ryzen (super likely, i really want affordable and fast 8 cores), i'll keep calling it Zen. The name just warms my heart and will give me patience for inevitable delays, bugs, excuses, and performance munching microcode hotpatches, if AMD's history if anything to go by. And for occasional waiting for CPU to wake up and do its thing - i expect sleepy power management from AMD, but perhaps it'll actually be good this time. Don't have a strong opinion on NX vs Switch, Switch may be a bit mundane, but i guess it's descriptive. If i were to get one (unlikely), i'll just call it The Thing. Or the Nintendo Gameplet. I don't have a TV, but good games on the go would be useful.
Great video! I cannot thank you enough for adding Total War: Warhammer to the benchmarking lineup. Regarding your stutter problem with GTA V: Could it be a G-sync issue? Haven't played GTAV on pc yet but I know some of my games stutter really bad when I have G-sync enabled. Just a thought!
Finally, somebody does exactly what I've been looking for over the internet for a while now. My old 2500k is really starting to show it's age and i wanted to find out what kind of upgrade I should get and what kind of performance I should expect. Well done, Gamers Nexus, have a sub.
I miss my 2500k@5.0GHz@1.40v :( it served me very well, & is now enjoying retirement at stock in my dad's computer. Best CPU purchase I ever made, though the Q6600 before it was also pretty epic!
I've been running a 2500k @4.8 since release and I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance boost I got going to a 6700k @4.7. I do a lot of different things though on my PC, from rendering to gaming to spreadsheets.
Currently I'm using 2500K at 4.5Ghz (70 degree Celsius under load) + Zotac GTX 1070 Amp! Extreme + 32Gb of DDR3 1866Mhz. And I think, it is the best balanced rig I've ever had. In some cases CPU limits 1070, in other video card limits my 2500K, but all the time I'm getting dead on 60hz with V-Sync option. Furthermore I'm using DSR technology and it works perfectly well in many titles. So, I have no rational reasons to upgrade my rig right now. Emotionally, I would do the upgrade, but it's not necessarily right now in my opinion.
Z77 boards offered a lot of the features that were cited here as missing from Z68. Obviously Z77 came out in 2012, alongside the 3rd Gen i5/i7. Z77 boards support M.2, PCI-E 3.0, (sometimes) faster RAM, etc... Being able to run DDR3 2133/2400 with an overclocked 3rd gen i5/i7 still gives pretty competitive performance.
sth. to remember here is that the i5 2500k was the clever choice well into the next generation the i5 35..k had overheating issues due to intel's first implementation of shit thermalpaste. thus a lot of clever people bought z77 motherboards with sandybridge like myself still running this setup.
***** there are a lot of forum posts about overheating i5 3570s solved by changing thermal paste between chip and heatspreading the issue gets huge once u exceed a certain level of thermal output, where the thermal paste just can't deliver more to the headspreader so shit starts to overheat real quick. i would assume the 4,2 ghz at stock cooler and what i assume is stock voltage will be below that. i'm running my i5 2500k at 4.4 ghz 1,356 v. 69 degrees celsius absolute (48 delta) in blend test 10 minutes, nh-d14. readout with realtemp/cpu-z what do u mean 68-70 did u run prime 95 blend test (i was told to run blend test, because it taxes the memory controller way more), but it is also intel burn test stable.
***** well i like gamer nexus videos find them entertaining and watch most of them, regardless if i have the tech or am interested in it. that's what i meant with random. did u specifically search for i5 2500k 2017?
Great benchmarking! I love your 1% and 0.1% LOW in the benchmarks, tells a whole lot about the experience. The only thing I'm missing is a frametime graph for each game. I understand that it's not so interesting in a video but maybe you could record frametimes and put them in the article? :)
We do record frametimes. That's what the 1% and 0.1% metrics represent. See here: th-cam.com/video/uXepIWi4SgM/w-d-xo.html We just don't plot them as a frametime chart at this moment.
Oh now I see! I thought they stood for what the current framerate in the games were at 1%/0.1% of the TIME in a benchmark. Maybe you should link to that video in every benchmark you do or at least include it in the description? I don't think everyone understands what it means right off the bat.
Great test! It's for this kind of great content that I subscribed :) I hope a similar test is repeated when Ryzen comes out, but with an OCed X5650 (a popular used CPU choice) too.
Here's the more detailed article, for folks who want to learn more and find a few more benchmarks: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2773-intel-i5-2500k-revisit-benchmark-for-2017
Gamers Nexus Are you rendering on windows or linux? Because there is a huge difference in performance between linux and windows when it comes to blender. The ryzen render took around 35%-40% longer to render on windows than on linux. This might be worth checking out, especially if you render production stuff that takes multiple days to complete.
Great video as always... The performance of the i5-2500k OC is amazing! About the watch dogs 2 even powerfull new cpus are having trouble to run so I wouldn't waste to many thought on it... And the hype for Ryzen is getting stronger and stronger in my heart with every new video. Man, I can't wait for march!!
why not overclock the 2600k too? anyway here's the deal: 60hz monitor? your oced 2500k is fine, and 2600k will probably last another 5 years to be barely enough for 60fpz at the current pace of things in other words: zen, we need you...
We visit each unit individually. If we OC'd the 2600K, everyone would ask for an overclocked 4690K, 6600K, 4790K, etc. That doubles the workload to a point of taking multiple days per CPU. The 2600K will be overclocked individually, just like the 7700K and 2500K were. We add one new test each time to iterate on the foundation.
the way the test is executed makes it useless in the first place. the only thing it shows is that at stock (seriously, which enthusiast cares about stock performance...) there are performance "improvements", which is obvious as the clocks went up to the former oc-values. tinfoil hat time: you're sponsored by intel and don't want to lose their monniez, so you present their products in a way that doesn't make it seem like they haven't done anything - which they did.
We overclocked the 2500K. We are not sponsored by Intel in any way. I bought (with GN's money) every CPU on that bench except the 7700K, which was loaned to us by a motherboard manufacturer.
Flaimbot Sees data that makes a company's product look good -> immediately assumes the person presenting the data is being payed off by that company. JUST STOP IT ALREADY. FFS, it seems like literally every single PC hardware video I watch now has a comment below it accusing the youtuber of being payed off by the company to make their product look good, or make someone else's product look bad. If you want to spend an entire month running tests on a dozen different CPUs both stock and OC, across a dozen different benchmarks, go ahead and do it yourself.
who is okay with 30- 60 fps. will be happy with a 2500k/2600k/3570k for the next 3-4 maybe 5 years. considering 4k 60 fps gameplay the gap between will be waaaaaaaay smaller because achieving 60 fps is for the actual graphicscards quite a problem. and as we can see those older cpus have no problem with 60 fps...
I have an i3-2100 and have run into a lot of situations where it'l lagging behind, but that's less to do with single-core and more to do with only 2 cores. Thankfully there are good deals for used i7s or equivalent Xeons on the platform.
Why not OC the i7 SandyBridge? And these benches are only at 1080p, why not 1440 or 4K? nobody with a GTX 1080 games at 1080p. Also, the games used are all CPU intensive, why not other games? Seems like a very specific bench that doesnt tell you the whole picture of gaming with a sandybridge nowadays..
Agreed, im still on sandy bridge E (x79) have retired my i73820 in favour of EOL Xeons though! Have a e5-2680 octa core atm but bit MEH with max clock of 3.1 on all cores so i have an unlocked hexa core on the way. No way i will be upgrading anytime soon! Hopefully i do ok an silicon lottery and can push hexa core close to 5, cooling is nps full custom loop and 520mm worth of rad's.I know ill inherit a x99/6900k setup from a client who upgrades every 2 years before i run out of puff with my x79 system.So far this x79 system has been longest lived for me going on 5+ years now.
I'd love to see also 2600K @4,5GHz to a real compare. Because is a beast, and stock 3,4GHz is too low to compare with stock newer 4.0GHz cpu frequencies.
Wasn't that intel fast frequency switching technology released with the 6000 series ? Maybe GTAV doesn't play well with that frequency switching on the i5 6600K/7600K, making the CPU not know what it's supposed to do. Does the frequency stay consistent? then again it might be doing it that fast that monitoring software might not pick up on it. The problem might not occur on their i7 brothers because HT "fills in" for the "bug" ? I would have looked if the stuttering happens when you disable HT on the 6700K/7700K. Anyways just a thought
Great video, fun to see that I'm the target audience. Running an i5-2500k with a gtx 1080 and the 2500k is constantly on 100% usage whereas the 1080 didn't even turn it's fans on. Definitely upgrading to kaby lake, I'll wait for Zen though, maybe prices will drop a bit for the kaby lake i7. I really doubt that Zen will be as good as the hype suggests.
My i5-2500K o/c at 4.5ghz teamed with a 970GTX strix and 16gb ram. GTA5 runs excellent at 1080p as does skylines, factorio etc. I want to upgrade to latest and greatest but can't justify the outlay when that ol' 2500k keeps storming along. I'll see if it struggles with some of the 2017 AAA titles. Eventually it will fail and I'll upgrade. When it happens I'll give that trooper a proper send-off with a pint of ale and a tear in my eye.
MY 2500k has held up well for me. Especially since i have backed off into a casual gamer over the last couple years. Im really hoping for Ryzen to put out something awesome for my next PC build. I had been about to pull the trigger on a new rig until i started hearing about that, but considering i building from the ground up it is definitely worth the wait for me, as Intel is a bit lackluster in this generation.
I think that i5 6600K and i5 6700K may have an issue calculating the Integer numbers. I'm not sure, but it can be checked in Aida64. If overclocked gets a lower score in the Integer tests, or even in the float-point calculations, then the problem is found.
Awesome video, do you plan on making another video like this with a focus on the 2600k? (oc'd aswell). I would be really interested to see how a 4.5 ghz 2600k would do in these tests. I also feel like 1440p results should be included in these tests, many people running high end hardware will have made the jump to it and CPU bottlenecking is much less of a worry factor there since the GPU is often the bottleneck.
I actually never got to see this 2500K Revisit from 20I7, when it first uploaded (in fact, the first program of Gamers Nexus that I watched during the latter half of the 20IX decade was "iBUYPOWER vs. Walmart System Build Review"), so to look at this episode truly shows how much the production quality and formula of Gamers Nexus evolved from its 2004/2005 Era G4tv template to its modern incarnation over the course of a matter of months, following the update to the GN Logo, Heads~up Display assets, Benchmark Table, and End Screen. To be truthful, if Gamers Nexus was around back when G4tv was existent (especially in its early years), this version of the show's production formula would've fit right in with what the network was offering at the time; it's not often that we see this design template and also the fonts of that era used in virtually any programming of the modern era, so it makes for a nice throwback, perhaps this could be revived for a future Anniversary program down the road to remind longtime viewers of what this series looked like in its earlier times? (:
Hey Steve, Is your blender test image publicly available? curious to see how my system sits in terms of the results you have been posting of late, enjoying the fact some productivity tests are being included now over just the gaming stuff. cheers
It is fantastic that you include the stock speeds as well. Most channels just look at the OC speeds, and obviously the chance to get the particular OC speeds are not 100%
This video was perfect, thank you! I'm in the midst of planning for a new computer which includes an upgrade from my current 2500k, but I've constantly had a voice in the back of my head wondering if it's gonna be worth it. This tells me that it is. Thank you.
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this review. I have a 2500k i5 and I just purchased a GTX1080 FTW. I've been comparing my new setup with my cousins sli 1070's and I've been wondering how much my cpu has been bottlenecking me. Again thank you for this video.
A decade on and the 2500k is still legendary. I need to build a cheap computer intended for light use from a family member and I immediately considered the chip. I’m sure it’s integrated graphics can still pump out 1080p and 1440p video while still being really snappy for basic desktop operations.
Still rocking my i5-2500K @4.5GHz. Picked it up from MicroCenter for $99 in 2012 and it has never let me down. Recently I bumped up the RAM to 32GB 2133MHz DDR3 and installed a 1660 Super 6GB card to max out my 1920x1200 @60Hz IPS monitor. Not planning on upgrading until 2022 or so.
Hey Steve, maybe I missed it, but what do HT0 and HT1 stand for in your graphs? Excellent video. I had a 2500k that I gave to my brother when I upgraded to skylake, good to know it's still kicking.
I have 2500K, the funny thing is I always upgraded my VGA, from GTS 450 to GTX 750Ti to GTX1050 & now Im use RX 570, I have limited budget so I dont upgrade my CPU :D I dont know its bottleneck or not, but so far so good!
I went from the 2500k to the 6700k last month; huge (HUGE) improvements in games like World of Warcraft, MechWarrior: Online, and other MMO/online games - in order of dozens of FPS gain in every game. There's definitely some areas and titles that the upgrade made very little difference, but for the core applications and games that I run, it's a massive difference; people stating that the 2500k is not yet worth upgrading from were correct for a long time, but really, Skylake and up are substantial improvements.
Steve, based on this test and the i7 7700k test, is the $350 upgrade to a 4790k + z97 motherboard a reasonable upgrade route as opposed to $650 for 7700k, z270, 16gb DDR4? Other than the blender rendering benchmarks, it seems that gaming and every day tasks like photoshop only see a 5=10% increase in performance for a 60% difference in price.
There were a few CPUs and GPUs which have held on extremely well and I sort of regret buying the low-end Core i5 2400 back in the day, which started to show its age much sooner in games and when editing and transcoding video. One was the mentioned Core i5 2500K (open multiplyer for easy overclocking) and the Core i7 2600K (open multiplyer and hyperthreading). About ten years ago (god, do I feel old...) the Core 2 Quad Q6600 was providing an excellent "bang for your buck" ratio and could be overclocked for even more long-term performance. On the GPU side there was the Radeon HD 7970, which is still doing just fine in 1080p six years later. On the Nvidia side there was the GTX 970, which has given buyers little to no need for upgrading to today. So It's not always the best idea to save a few bucks buying the "good enough" mid-range hardware. Sure, it'll do its job just fine, but it'll age much faster and often lacks long-term support via more high-end features like DX 12 support. Like I said, my Core i5 2400 from 2011 aged much faster and my old R9 270X 2GB card really grew long in the tooth after about two years or so.
Excellent comparison review, as always! I have a legacy build of i7-870 OC'd to 4G., to which I've updated with a Sapphire 290 gpu & can run most games comfortably in the mid to high 50's in ultra settings & maintain a good gaming experience. Agreed that the 1st & 2nd gen platforms are starting to show their age. My 4790K system (OC'd to 4.9G) pulled frame rates well into the mid/high 80's with the sames games. Cheers & ty!
I'm gonna wait just a little bit longer for Ryzen and see how Kaby lake performs. 4.2 gighertz i7 2600k, 16 gigs of ram, 1060 here :) Thanks for putting this video comparison up :)
love my overclocked 2500k still goin strong. got a new rx 470 and dont see any bottleneck. probably wait for amd and see what prices do before upgrading. since i game at 1080p
STILL rocking the 2500k in February 2019. It's a beast.
thescinema I have a stock 2500 and thinking of buying a K to overclock. My computer is still running find, but I’d like M2 SSD capability. The price of a new CPU/Mobo when they’re not that far ahead is hard to swallow
@@stevebean1234 They're not far ahead? In this test the top end is nearly 50% faster. That's excellent for cpu performance and that's only in 2017.
Now you can get a 6/12 thread 3600 cpu and get 50-60%+ for $200-400 and be good for another 8-9 years.
richr161 not for the games I play. Multi threading is nearly useless for them, so stacking cores won’t do me much good. I think I may benefit from modern RAM and M2 SSD speeds, but having to buy those along with a $150 CPU and $150 MoBo is borderline more than I want to spend. Haven’t decided yet.
@@stevebean1234What games are those? Mostly everything uses more than 4/4 threads.
Also min framerates matter. I had a 2500k excellent chip good framerate, but the min framerate was suffering. The biggest difference i noticed from upgrading was games were smoother not just higher frame rates.
Also its a moot point if you have a 60hz monitor as basically any cpu can push most games to that frame rate. no reason to buy a cpu.
Still rocking it in 2024, it ain't a beast anymore 😭😭
i LOVE those ''revisit'' videos!!
do GTX 780/780ti vs R9 290/290X
Tech Wiz Master GTX 770 and 780 Ti were already revisited.
Tech Wiz Master well I can tell you that the 290x is holding well. My MSI 290x is getting locked 60fps ultra at 1440p on pretty much most modern games. An exception for me is GTA V where I run it on high settings and it stays at 60fps most the time. Apart from in the city but I think my i5 3570k is bottlenecking there. But would love to see a more extensive look at it.
r9 270x ... because thats what i have ..... still ...
How hot does it run? my reference 290x could almost heat my house in winter. and its deafening. awesome performance for what i paid for it though. Having said that, ill never buy a reference design card ever again
Grant Hogan mine stays pretty cool if it's not running an overclock. But once I bump the core to 1150mhz it hits around 87 degrees and if I play for long enough it'll slowly go up to 94 degrees especially in summer.
Iam watching this video with my 2500k @ 5.0Ghz
In terms of reducing temperature google for better performing thermal paste and stuff like "delid CPU", "CPU heatsink/die lapping", "all-in-one watercoolers". All this stuff is pretty cheap to achieve but it needs a little bravery to treat a fragile cpu like that.
Coming from a guy who just beheaded his i5-3570k and runs 4.8ghz on air O;O
Ofcourse you'll find a lot of youtube videos on this also.
Tomcat, he doesn't even need to do that (or rather he can't) - SandyBridge chips ran a soldered IHS so you don't need to delid it. I gave my old system to my brother which is a 2500k @5GHz - runs perfect to this day :D
i am watching this with my 2500k at stock clockspeed and stock fan.
Same here, 6 years @ 5ghz. Using a Corsair H70. Only changed the thermal compound once, eep.
i managed to push mine to 4.7ghz but i reverted to 4.5ghz as it s in a small case and it was getting to warm for my liking.
thanks for highlighting the graphs. it makes it much easier to follow what you are talking about
Everyone revisiting, and here I am just getting my 2500k to finally put into my mobo :(
Me 2 two years later than u guys damn. Do you like it?
With Vulcan and DX12 there are even less reasons to upgrade.
That's not really true. Most of the games we've been working with are not that reliable with either new API just yet. DOOM is an exception, most the time. BF1 has issues with frametimes at the low-end, so it doesn't much matter what CPU or GPU you have as the implementation is so poor.
Gamers Nexus You can't blame the CPU for Devs f*cking up their API implementation.
Also using an AMD GPU will help a lot with DX12 and Vulcan.
You should test CPU Bottlenecks in Low-Level-APIs with some GPUs actully! :)
+Gamers Nexus not really in the topic, but have you tested GTX 1060/Rx 480 with current i3 processors?
Usually, you isolate one component, like CPU in this video and maximize the other (GTX 1080 here) and it is hard to find mid-range + mid-range combo.
Who blamed the CPU?
We have done many of those tests. You are welcome to check the website for them. Our GPU reviews contain several Dx12, Vulkan, and OpenGL tests.
They've been saying that for a while, and generally speaking, DX12 performance sucks.
It's funny to see Intel losing the game against their own products. Still not on the hype train of performance gains that can only be measured.
And people are questioning why PC sales are declining. Calling it "PC is dead"
It's just that people already have a machine that is good enough. Except for the extreme enthusiasts, gamers are fine with the performance of a 4 year old chip. And the PC gaming market is growing.
I have an 2500K with a GTX 980ti, its fine with a OC
lokalkakan well I would definitely upgrade in a year or so
quangluu96 got 1070 and i was forced to buy a 6600k after getting stutter with 2500k. witcher 3 and gta 5 ran like shit tbh
2500k stock is on par with i3 6100/ G4620 so thats not true. Most people can get 4.5ghz easy
Mines at 4.4ghz and faster than any AMD processor right now in gaming.
my oc fx8370 4.5ghz will crush that cpu
Exactly the video I wanted to see! This is why I love Gamer Nexus!!! :D And Digital Foundries.
I'm still running the 2500K@4.5GHz too. Looking to upgrade to Ryzen. I think it's time now.
Don't let the higher numbers fool you unless you are running 144hz 1080p. OCed 2500k is fine.
I'm pretty sure that my 2500k is holding back my recently purchased Sapphire Fury Tri-X.
I agree with Karishin32. The numbers here are misleading.
well even for 75hz an i5 is barely enough anymore. gladly upgraded to a xeon e3 1230v3
Even at 1440p 144hz the i5 2500k struggles. Playing Witcher 3, with maxxed out settings and Hairworks turned on so the frame rate would be lower, the i5 2500k was bottlenecking my GTX 1080. Happy to have upgraded.
This video with all the great effort behind it is great and made me subscribe finally. Thanks. Getting the gear to delid and relid the 6700K.
i don't understand why you didn't do 2600k OC @ 4.5GHz as well. what a missed opportunity.
He probably didn't want to embarrass Intel any further :>
Elsewhere, he promised to do this for 2600 spotlight that will come in another video.
Did he specify a memory overclock somewhere in there? Because these newer processors have far faster memory, and older reviews that I've seen pointed out that a DDR3 memory overclock to 2133mhz or higher had a bigger impact on FPS in most games than the overclocking the CPU clock for a 2500k.
this is why i love this channel. very informative!
do you have a download link for that blender scene ?
2x performance for 8x price? I stay with 2500k for next 2-3 yers
I will stay too, i got mine for 6 years already and its keeping up!
what do you do? You still have 2500k? I have it at stock clock and im veery fine
Santy Media still on my 2500. RAM stick died and considering upgrading... can’t get over how expensive/boring modern CPUs are though
For the AMD platform, I would like to see the Phenom II X6 series be tested.
Razor2048 As much as I like this processor family, I can understand why they wouldn't review it. Despite it being an unlocked 6 core CPU, the Phenom II X6 lacks support for all modern instruction sets. It is also outperformed or matched by the Piledriver FX series and Sandy Bridge Core series. Given how aged those processors are, it makes sense to leave the Phenoms in the dust.
Those came out more than half a decade ago(April 2010)... Let it go man...
I just upgraded rig of my brother (he is not very demanding user with HD 7870 Ghz and Phenom 1090T because he used to had AM3 board, its working ok. but I am awaiting for 3 120mm fans (cpu cooler is artic A32) so I will OCed it for sure
Yes, i had 1100T
Razor2048 I have the Phenom II x2 560 or something and a gtx970 (stupid, I know) and I was testing the GPU and was watching both CPU and GPU usage . . . GPU usage jumped up to 100, CPU followed. oops.
How do you only have 83k subscribers? This is easily one of the most informative PC tech channels!
wish you had of overclocked the 2600k so we could see the difference
Intel paid him to not do it
Luke nobody would buy kaby lake if he showed it
Great work GN - Just the video i have been waiting for!
I was thinking of upgrading my 4790k to either a 7700k or Ryzen, but it looms like my 4790k still has plenty of life.
antiduckable don't, it's on par with a 6700K
antiduckable im not upgrading my 4790k until 2020 at this rate
I'm not upgrading my 2500K until 2020 at this rate
Anti Duck Unless your main game is arma 3 that would have been a dumb move lol. Arma 3 and DayZ standalone both love high clock speeds and those are my main games so when I build my new PC it’s definitely going to have the new 8600k running at 4.8Ghz! :) I would opt for a used 4790k but nobody wants to sell them for a reasonable price
Always top notch thorough and informative videos
The difference is there (and significant % increase for some of the games), but what I seeing is unless you are gaming on a 120+Hz gaming monitor, the 2500/2600k CPU duo can still solider on at this point in time.
Great review. Thank you for producing it.
To be honest: I only understand half of the tech-jibberish you're talking about, since I'm not too deep into the materia, although knowing enough stuff about GPUs, CPUs, PSUs and so on in order to help friends and relatives with their problems. But what I really like to point out, is the effort you're putting into each and every video and article you're releasing. This is insane!
I like Bitwit and JayZ as well and they do get slightly more in the factor of entertainment, but if it's about knowledge and explanation, your vids and articles just blow my f*cking mind. Each time. That's why you've got sourself another subscriber today and I will highly recommend your channel to everyone who's asking for benches or some deeper knowledge about the whole materia.
I'm so glad Kyle linked to your channel, awesome content. Thanks!
Steve, im currently using i7-4770k @ 4.5, do you think next generation of coffeelake / cannonlake will make any change or we will see same thing as with i7-7700k?
I've heard that (I think) coffeelake will increase the core counts in the i3s, i5s, and i7s.
PeanutButterSavage I cant imagine i5 6 cores...
Unknown Gamer, Why not? I can see i3 being what i5 is now and new i5 with 6 cores with no HT.
cryohellinc id wait until 10 or 7nm cpus if you have a 4770k
Thanks! That was a pretty useful video. Subscribed!
I like the term Zen so much better. It rolls of the tongue so smoothly, and gives you an impression of what the cpu series is capable of.
But you hear Ryzen, and you're like tf is that shit?
I wish they stuck with Zen as the name. I also like the NX better than the Switch. Project code names are so much cooler than the PR names.
Ragh D zen is probably to hard to get a copyright on as its a more generic word. it does sound better though
Frankie Dingleberry Zen is still their CPU lineup. It's just the high end CPUs are called Ryzen.
Zen is a peaceful meditative philosophy, something that hardly conjures images of high performance, you want your CPU to punch through your tasks, not meditate on them taking its time. Ryzen sounds like Phoenix rising from the ashes, something curiously apt for what this processor *has* to do for AMD CPU division in its current state. I think Ryzen is a uniquely good marketing name.
But still, if i get a Ryzen (super likely, i really want affordable and fast 8 cores), i'll keep calling it Zen. The name just warms my heart and will give me patience for inevitable delays, bugs, excuses, and performance munching microcode hotpatches, if AMD's history if anything to go by. And for occasional waiting for CPU to wake up and do its thing - i expect sleepy power management from AMD, but perhaps it'll actually be good this time.
Don't have a strong opinion on NX vs Switch, Switch may be a bit mundane, but i guess it's descriptive. If i were to get one (unlikely), i'll just call it The Thing. Or the Nintendo Gameplet. I don't have a TV, but good games on the go would be useful.
Unrelated but PS4 Neo sounded so much cooler than PS4 Pro
I´m so glad someone does these tests so I don´t have to do them myself. You guys really make life easier for a lot of people. Thanks!!
i5 2500k for life!
Great video! I cannot thank you enough for adding Total War: Warhammer to the benchmarking lineup. Regarding your stutter problem with GTA V: Could it be a G-sync issue? Haven't played GTAV on pc yet but I know some of my games stutter really bad when I have G-sync enabled. Just a thought!
Well it shows that i5 2500k with good OC is still enough for FHD gamer playing on 4/5 with good gpu like r9 290, gtx 970
Finally, somebody does exactly what I've been looking for over the internet for a while now. My old 2500k is really starting to show it's age and i wanted to find out what kind of upgrade I should get and what kind of performance I should expect. Well done, Gamers Nexus, have a sub.
i am very happy with my 2600k....4years still kicking yooo EDIT: OC to 4.5ghz for 3days
Same here but 5 1/2 yrs for me and just got a GTX 1080 and can play all games in ultra on stock clocks.
yep i got the EVGA SC 1080 lol....with the h100i on it the overclock is also very very good ^.^ all hail the sandybridge
Haven't even overclocked mine and it still runs like a charm.
Your videos are truly excellent!
I miss my 2500k@5.0GHz@1.40v :( it served me very well, & is now enjoying retirement at stock in my dad's computer. Best CPU purchase I ever made, though the Q6600 before it was also pretty epic!
HOkayson what cooling did you have
I've been running a 2500k @4.8 since release and I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance boost I got going to a 6700k @4.7. I do a lot of different things though on my PC, from rendering to gaming to spreadsheets.
Currently I'm using 2500K at 4.5Ghz (70 degree Celsius under load) + Zotac GTX 1070 Amp! Extreme + 32Gb of DDR3 1866Mhz. And I think, it is the best balanced rig I've ever had. In some cases CPU limits 1070, in other video card limits my 2500K, but all the time I'm getting dead on 60hz with V-Sync option. Furthermore I'm using DSR technology and it works perfectly well in many titles. So, I have no rational reasons to upgrade my rig right now. Emotionally, I would do the upgrade, but it's not necessarily right now in my opinion.
Good video! Keep up this good work, i forwared this to my friends with an 2500k
Z77 boards offered a lot of the features that were cited here as missing from Z68. Obviously Z77 came out in 2012, alongside the 3rd Gen i5/i7. Z77 boards support M.2, PCI-E 3.0, (sometimes) faster RAM, etc... Being able to run DDR3 2133/2400 with an overclocked 3rd gen i5/i7 still gives pretty competitive performance.
I think that savage has a CL of 11 at 2400, thats bad when my 2133 has a cl of 9
sth. to remember here is that the i5 2500k was the clever choice well into the next generation the i5 35..k had overheating issues due to intel's first implementation of shit thermalpaste.
thus a lot of clever people bought z77 motherboards with sandybridge like myself still running this setup.
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there are a lot of forum posts about overheating i5 3570s solved by changing thermal paste between chip and heatspreading the issue gets huge once u exceed a certain level of thermal output, where the thermal paste just can't deliver more to the headspreader so shit starts to overheat real quick.
i would assume the 4,2 ghz at stock cooler and what i assume is stock voltage will be below that.
i'm running my i5 2500k at 4.4 ghz 1,356 v.
69 degrees celsius absolute (48 delta) in blend test 10 minutes, nh-d14. readout with realtemp/cpu-z
what do u mean 68-70 did u run prime 95 blend test (i was told to run blend test, because it taxes the memory controller way more), but it is also intel burn test stable.
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idk random interest, why are we both watching random tech videos?
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well i like gamer nexus videos find them entertaining and watch most of them, regardless if i have the tech or am interested in it. that's what i meant with random.
did u specifically search for i5 2500k 2017?
Great benchmarking!
I love your 1% and 0.1% LOW in the benchmarks, tells a whole lot about the experience.
The only thing I'm missing is a frametime graph for each game.
I understand that it's not so interesting in a video but maybe you could record frametimes and put them in the article? :)
We do record frametimes. That's what the 1% and 0.1% metrics represent. See here:
th-cam.com/video/uXepIWi4SgM/w-d-xo.html
We just don't plot them as a frametime chart at this moment.
Oh now I see! I thought they stood for what the current framerate in the games were at 1%/0.1% of the TIME in a benchmark.
Maybe you should link to that video in every benchmark you do or at least include it in the description? I don't think everyone understands what it means right off the bat.
Wow, that's gorgeous hair!
Great test! It's for this kind of great content that I subscribed :) I hope a similar test is repeated when Ryzen comes out, but with an OCed X5650 (a popular used CPU choice) too.
Here's the more detailed article, for folks who want to learn more and find a few more benchmarks: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2773-intel-i5-2500k-revisit-benchmark-for-2017
Gamers Nexus i looked the article and i saw you didn't overclock 7600k. Why didn't you overclock it?
Exacly.. 4.5 is prettly low for 2500K I run mine 4.6ghz atm but it can run 4.7. 4.8 with better cooler is possible.
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Are you rendering on windows or linux?
Because there is a huge difference in performance between linux and windows when it comes to blender. The ryzen render took around 35%-40% longer to render on windows than on linux. This might be worth checking out, especially if you render production stuff that takes multiple days to complete.
it doesn't matter what platform they are testing blender on because their results are still comparable.
Looks like it might be more the PCI-E bus rather then the CPU grunt holding back the chip
Great video as always... The performance of the i5-2500k OC is amazing! About the watch dogs 2 even powerfull new cpus are having trouble to run so I wouldn't waste to many thought on it... And the hype for Ryzen is getting stronger and stronger in my heart with every new video. Man, I can't wait for march!!
why not overclock the 2600k too?
anyway here's the deal: 60hz monitor? your oced 2500k is fine, and 2600k will probably last another 5 years to be barely enough for 60fpz at the current pace of things
in other words: zen, we need you...
We visit each unit individually. If we OC'd the 2600K, everyone would ask for an overclocked 4690K, 6600K, 4790K, etc. That doubles the workload to a point of taking multiple days per CPU. The 2600K will be overclocked individually, just like the 7700K and 2500K were. We add one new test each time to iterate on the foundation.
the way the test is executed makes it useless in the first place. the only thing it shows is that at stock (seriously, which enthusiast cares about stock performance...) there are performance "improvements", which is obvious as the clocks went up to the former oc-values.
tinfoil hat time: you're sponsored by intel and don't want to lose their monniez, so you present their products in a way that doesn't make it seem like they haven't done anything - which they did.
We overclocked the 2500K. We are not sponsored by Intel in any way. I bought (with GN's money) every CPU on that bench except the 7700K, which was loaned to us by a motherboard manufacturer.
Looking forward to the 2600k OC'd tests as that is what I'm running with a GTX 1080 but mine is stock clocks atm.
Flaimbot Sees data that makes a company's product look good -> immediately assumes the person presenting the data is being payed off by that company. JUST STOP IT ALREADY. FFS, it seems like literally every single PC hardware video I watch now has a comment below it accusing the youtuber of being payed off by the company to make their product look good, or make someone else's product look bad. If you want to spend an entire month running tests on a dozen different CPUs both stock and OC, across a dozen different benchmarks, go ahead and do it yourself.
Great video. This must have taken a great deal of time, thanks.
i got an 2600k watercooled with a gtx 1080 still a great cpu
good shit. i still run 2500k with 1060, no water. pubg pretty stable around 85 fps
btw you are rocking with the hair man.keep it up! thanks for the video
who is okay with 30- 60 fps. will be happy with a 2500k/2600k/3570k for the next 3-4 maybe 5 years. considering 4k 60 fps gameplay the gap between will be waaaaaaaay smaller because achieving 60 fps is for the actual graphicscards quite a problem. and as we can see those older cpus have no problem with 60 fps...
The i5 2500k is a legendary cpu.
i have the i3 2130 paired with rx 470 and can still play doom 4 at 150 fps
you can't use Intel CPU with AMD GPU, it causes nerd rage
rurutu M ... nobody should buy a fx in 2017
that would cause nerdrage
I have an i3-2100 and have run into a lot of situations where it'l lagging behind, but that's less to do with single-core and more to do with only 2 cores. Thankfully there are good deals for used i7s or equivalent Xeons on the platform.
Energy Core i actually only encountered lag because of the i3 in halo 5 forge, and im waiting for ryzen
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I found the framerate tanked in the old Trackmania United forever if I was playing while watching a Twitch stream.
Thank you for this video. I found it very helpful.
Why not OC the i7 SandyBridge? And these benches are only at 1080p, why not 1440 or 4K? nobody with a GTX 1080 games at 1080p. Also, the games used are all CPU intensive, why not other games?
Seems like a very specific bench that doesnt tell you the whole picture of gaming with a sandybridge nowadays..
mrmariomantube cpu's have a lot more to do when you play on 1080p. Its easier to see any bottlenecks this way.
Agreed, im still on sandy bridge E (x79) have retired my i73820 in favour of EOL Xeons though! Have a e5-2680 octa core atm but bit MEH with max clock of 3.1 on all cores so i have an unlocked hexa core on the way. No way i will be upgrading anytime soon! Hopefully i do ok an silicon lottery and can push hexa core close to 5, cooling is nps full custom loop and 520mm worth of rad's.I know ill inherit a x99/6900k setup from a client who upgrades every 2 years before i run out of puff with my x79 system.So far this x79 system has been longest lived for me going on 5+ years now.
great video! finally some cpu-intensive games
Your wall is a floor.
I'd love to see also 2600K @4,5GHz to a real compare. Because is a beast, and stock 3,4GHz is too low to compare with stock newer 4.0GHz cpu frequencies.
Great breakdown!
Wasn't that intel fast frequency switching technology released with the 6000 series ? Maybe GTAV doesn't play well with that frequency switching on the i5 6600K/7600K, making the CPU not know what it's supposed to do. Does the frequency stay consistent? then again it might be doing it that fast that monitoring software might not pick up on it. The problem might not occur on their i7 brothers because HT "fills in" for the "bug" ? I would have looked if the stuttering happens when you disable HT on the 6700K/7700K. Anyways just a thought
Great video, fun to see that I'm the target audience. Running an i5-2500k with a gtx 1080 and the 2500k is constantly on 100% usage whereas the 1080 didn't even turn it's fans on. Definitely upgrading to kaby lake, I'll wait for Zen though, maybe prices will drop a bit for the kaby lake i7. I really doubt that Zen will be as good as the hype suggests.
Nice video, really liked it
My i5-2500K o/c at 4.5ghz teamed with a 970GTX strix and 16gb ram. GTA5 runs excellent at 1080p as does skylines, factorio etc. I want to upgrade to latest and greatest but can't justify the outlay when that ol' 2500k keeps storming along. I'll see if it struggles with some of the 2017 AAA titles. Eventually it will fail and I'll upgrade. When it happens I'll give that trooper a proper send-off with a pint of ale and a tear in my eye.
MY 2500k has held up well for me. Especially since i have backed off into a casual gamer over the last couple years. Im really hoping for Ryzen to put out something awesome for my next PC build. I had been about to pull the trigger on a new rig until i started hearing about that, but considering i building from the ground up it is definitely worth the wait for me, as Intel is a bit lackluster in this generation.
I think that i5 6600K and i5 6700K may have an issue calculating the Integer numbers. I'm not sure, but it can be checked in Aida64. If overclocked gets a lower score in the Integer tests, or even in the float-point calculations, then the problem is found.
Awesome video, do you plan on making another video like this with a focus on the 2600k? (oc'd aswell).
I would be really interested to see how a 4.5 ghz 2600k would do in these tests.
I also feel like 1440p results should be included in these tests, many people running high end hardware will have made the jump to it and CPU bottlenecking is much less of a worry factor there since the GPU is often the bottleneck.
Yes! Hoping to.
I actually never got to see this 2500K Revisit from 20I7, when it first uploaded (in fact, the first program of Gamers Nexus that I watched during the latter half of the 20IX decade was "iBUYPOWER vs. Walmart System Build Review"), so to look at this episode truly shows how much the production quality and formula of Gamers Nexus evolved from its 2004/2005 Era G4tv template to its modern incarnation over the course of a matter of months, following the update to the GN Logo, Heads~up Display assets, Benchmark Table, and End Screen.
To be truthful, if Gamers Nexus was around back when G4tv was existent (especially in its early years), this version of the show's production formula would've fit right in with what the network was offering at the time; it's not often that we see this design template and also the fonts of that era used in virtually any programming of the modern era, so it makes for a nice throwback, perhaps this could be revived for a future Anniversary program down the road to remind longtime viewers of what this series looked like in its earlier times? (:
Hey Steve,
Is your blender test image publicly available? curious to see how my system sits in terms of the results you have been posting of late, enjoying the fact some productivity tests are being included now over just the gaming stuff.
cheers
Not yet. We might look into it, but need to write some kind of license agreement if we do.
It is fantastic that you include the stock speeds as well. Most channels just look at the OC speeds, and obviously the chance to get the particular OC speeds are not 100%
I'm drooling over those CPU trays. What a collection!
How come the 4690k was missing from the gta 5 benchmark? did it have some issues?
First time on this channel and I gotta say, bro, your hair is ****ing glorious
interesting and nice test, thanks!!
This video was perfect, thank you! I'm in the midst of planning for a new computer which includes an upgrade from my current 2500k, but I've constantly had a voice in the back of my head wondering if it's gonna be worth it. This tells me that it is. Thank you.
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this review. I have a 2500k i5 and I just purchased a GTX1080 FTW. I've been comparing my new setup with my cousins sli 1070's and I've been wondering how much my cpu has been bottlenecking me. Again thank you for this video.
I was waiting for this.
Very helpful thank you!
A decade on and the 2500k is still legendary. I need to build a cheap computer intended for light use from a family member and I immediately considered the chip. I’m sure it’s integrated graphics can still pump out 1080p and 1440p video while still being really snappy for basic desktop operations.
4690K + GTX970 OC for lyf son! Match made in heaven. Great video.
I really like this kind of article.. Impressive to see the 2500K still holding on..
Still rocking my i5-2500K @4.5GHz. Picked it up from MicroCenter for $99 in 2012 and it has never let me down. Recently I bumped up the RAM to 32GB 2133MHz DDR3 and installed a 1660 Super 6GB card to max out my 1920x1200 @60Hz IPS monitor. Not planning on upgrading until 2022 or so.
great really helpful. gave it a 👍
Good info! I just upgraded to an i7 7700k from an i5 760 and damn, night and day difference.
Hey Steve, maybe I missed it, but what do HT0 and HT1 stand for in your graphs? Excellent video. I had a 2500k that I gave to my brother when I upgraded to skylake, good to know it's still kicking.
Hyper-threading on or off.
I have 2500K, the funny thing is I always upgraded my VGA, from GTS 450 to GTX 750Ti to GTX1050 & now Im use RX 570, I have limited budget so I dont upgrade my CPU :D
I dont know its bottleneck or not, but so far so good!
Seeing FX 9590 (or OCed 83xx) would be nice for AMD FX CPUs as I think most people who have these CPUs will be running 4.6 GHz - 5 GHz
I went from the 2500k to the 6700k last month; huge (HUGE) improvements in games like World of Warcraft, MechWarrior: Online, and other MMO/online games - in order of dozens of FPS gain in every game. There's definitely some areas and titles that the upgrade made very little difference, but for the core applications and games that I run, it's a massive difference; people stating that the 2500k is not yet worth upgrading from were correct for a long time, but really, Skylake and up are substantial improvements.
Steve, based on this test and the i7 7700k test, is the $350 upgrade to a 4790k + z97 motherboard a reasonable upgrade route as opposed to $650 for 7700k, z270, 16gb DDR4? Other than the blender rendering benchmarks, it seems that gaming and every day tasks like photoshop only see a 5=10% increase in performance for a 60% difference in price.
There were a few CPUs and GPUs which have held on extremely well and I sort of regret buying the low-end Core i5 2400 back in the day, which started to show its age much sooner in games and when editing and transcoding video.
One was the mentioned Core i5 2500K (open multiplyer for easy overclocking) and the Core i7 2600K (open multiplyer and hyperthreading). About ten years ago (god, do I feel old...) the Core 2 Quad Q6600 was providing an excellent "bang for your buck" ratio and could be overclocked for even more long-term performance.
On the GPU side there was the Radeon HD 7970, which is still doing just fine in 1080p six years later. On the Nvidia side there was the GTX 970, which has given buyers little to no need for upgrading to today.
So It's not always the best idea to save a few bucks buying the "good enough" mid-range hardware. Sure, it'll do its job just fine, but it'll age much faster and often lacks long-term support via more high-end features like DX 12 support. Like I said, my Core i5 2400 from 2011 aged much faster and my old R9 270X 2GB card really grew long in the tooth after about two years or so.
can you guys do a software test to see if Windows 7 performs different against Windows 8 or 10?
Still running my 2500K with P8Z68-V Pro and Noctua NH14 @4.6. Just upgrading now to coffee lake.
Excellent comparison review, as always!
I have a legacy build of i7-870 OC'd to 4G., to which I've updated with a Sapphire 290 gpu & can run most games comfortably in the mid to high 50's in ultra settings & maintain a good gaming experience.
Agreed that the 1st & 2nd gen platforms are starting to show their age. My 4790K system (OC'd to 4.9G) pulled frame rates well into the mid/high 80's with the sames games.
Cheers & ty!
Why you didn't overclock the i5 7600k? is it same performance with the 7700k in games when overclocked?
We'll do that in the 7600K review.
Ok I'll be waiting for that! Thanks!
Currently running on a 2500K. I upgraded from a E6600 in 2012. I feel no pressure to upgrade again.
did you say in the video that there are some z170 boards that are compatible with 2500/2600k?
I only watched this video today. I'm using a i5 2500k right now since September 2011. This is a impressive processor.
This is exactly what I was looking for.
I'm gonna wait just a little bit longer for Ryzen and see how Kaby lake performs. 4.2 gighertz i7 2600k, 16 gigs of ram, 1060 here :) Thanks for putting this video comparison up :)
why is the 2600k and 2500k so popular but i almost never see the 2700k in any benchmarks etc?
because the 2500k is actually faster and cheaper if im not mistaken
cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2500K/1985vs619
Because 2600K was essentially the same chip as the 2700K, and is cheaper and OCs just as well.
love my overclocked 2500k still goin strong. got a new rx 470 and dont see any bottleneck. probably wait for amd and see what prices do before upgrading. since i game at 1080p
Can we revisit FX 6300 some day?
It would be interesting to compare it to the 2500k and the g4560, for example
Rather the FX 8350.
The FX 6300 would get shit on by the 2500K :P