Agreed, Ed is saying the exact same thing lots of other instructors on the channel have said but his methods seem to work better for Brendan specifically. Just shows finding the right instructor for you is just as important as trying to implement the correct instructions.
I think a lot of that has to do with the way Ed explains himself. If you understand why you need to do things a certain way it can help you get there. Of course if you're flexibility-challenged like me getting more around-and-open-at-impact requires a HUGE effort, partly because the lack of flexibility has led me in the past to take the easy way out and short-stop my rotation.
@@normankleinberg5525 Not saying you aren't flexibility challenged, but I personally used to think I had poor flexibility but it turns out it was poor mechanics (and poor understanding of simple concepts like rotating hips in backswing). I've heard most instructors say that the majority of golfers are plenty flexible, but that they all think they aren't.
@@canefan17 Fair enough, although Milo even has a section on his site specifically aimed at Senior golfers. It focuses on compensating for the inability to rotate enough, both on the back and through swing. But I would agree that, in general, people are more flexible than they think.
Brendan, you need to get a bit more depth in your backswing which might feel more “inside” so that you get pressure to your lead side sooner which will give you a brace to turn and open up without steepening the shaft. You would feel less of a need to reroute the club with wrist angles in the downswing in an effort to shallow it out. 👍
This is a great video, exactly what I needed! 3 swings and my rotation and compression is greatly improved! Grooved it with the next 20. Really exciting.
That closed position on the way down, that they are trying to coach out of you, is what Bobby Lopez recommended you do. There are many instructors who advocate back to the target as the first move down. For those of us who are arm swingers and hit from the top, this hitting the ball with your pivot is so counter intuitive
Quite correct. If you can drop down from the top into P6 with the club horizontal and pointing to the target, then you can rotate and open as hard as you like. Very few are supple and skilled enough to do that. We can, however, just swing through that position. Bobby is right. Vardon, Jones, Snead, Nicklaus, Watson, Couples, Mickleson etc. have played quite well without doing what these modern pros are trying to teach us.
I’ve found some players need the feel that their back is facing the target just a millisecond as to allow the lower body to recenter. This creates a minor amount of separation
Brendon, that last driver swing was the best I have seen you make. Don't know where the ball went but the swing was nothing like the pro was trying to teach you, 3/4 bs, easy swing, shoulders almost square at impact, and release. Bobby Lopez would be proud of you. I will email you with some different ideas as promised.
It was a snap hook, you’re correct it’s not what I was teaching him and more specifically not what he asked me to teach him. You’re also correct his shoulders were square and the toe flipped over. Not what you see from the best players in the world late on Sunday.
@@edlasatergolf Ha, that's told me, shows what I know. I still prefer the old-fashioned release, like Phil Mickelson, particularly for the average player, less strain on the back (Collin Morikawa, Will Zalatoris!). I was in a steel corset at 33 after copying Lee Trevino. Old, knackered now, nobody takes any notice of me but I predicted serious back problems for these youngsters. Joaquin Niemann next, I'm afraid.
@@oldprogolf7292 I would agree extremes in any form likely wouldn’t be good for the body or your golf game. But with that being said, my point to Brendon is to put the club in a position where it doesn’t put undo strain on his body while still maximizing his speed and accuracy. IMO, Like any athletic motion where you swing an object the pelvis moves in the opposite direction and the sternum allows leads the hands and arms. This allows you to maintain balance and limit face rotation. Thanks for watching and good luck to you👍🏼
This is a great video, but I personally was only able to do this type of swing (milo foundational 2) at slower speeds. Every time I tried to speed it up I got stuck. Passive arms and rotate just isn't for me apparently. I seem to do better with keep back to target and cast the club at the ball.
I would check your trail elbow position. Remember the only difference between Foundation 1 and 2 is the extension of he trail wrist. That extension should angle your trail elbow inside seam line on your shirt thus you won’t be stuck.
The key for me and maybe you is to make sure my butt posture is low enough to start the swing and to make sure it stays there or even go slightly lower during the swing. If I subtly think of this during the swing generally things go pretty well. It seems to create the room for my arms while opening my hips for them to come through.
But actually the truth is your arms are disconnected from your body. That is a for sure for you to be having this type of inconsistency. Your body will always turn with the swing if you’re connected. It’s as simple as that.
DJ, Rory both 'stall' to allow the clubhead to accelerate and get in front of the body. The danger I fear with the swing in this video is the potential for the club to get behind you as well as under plane, particularly when trying to add clubhead speed. If a person is used to swinging like this then sure, but can one transform one's swing effectively into this? I have my doubts.
They stall their pelvis because they get their lower body pointed almost at the target by p6 so everything else’s has to catch up, but their chests don’t stall.
I would have a quick watch of the new Taylormade video with Rory and Maria Fassi were he explains his feels and why letting the club get behind isn’t always bad with the correct rotation mechanics.
I saw that video as well and yes because of their sequence the club does trail their pivots and it is propelled like a catapult through impact. In addition, like Dr. Kwon says, Rory is speeding up his backswing to create a greater shortened stretch cycle to add more speed. That’s a great video.
I am a massive flipper and single digit handicap, and I was on track man with driver swings 117mph to 122mph and best spin rate I could achieve was 3500rpm with a 7.5 and 8 degree driver. Max distance was 270ish carry. Many drives were 4500 spin. A lot of attack angle of 0 or 1up. Many straight drives too. With those numbers I should be over 300 carry but sadly my average was 245ish. This video seriously is going to help me. I’ve already been using a swing thought of dropping the club shaft and hands behind me from top of the backswing but that’s not a full fix. It works using planemate until post impact follow through and it is awful …the rubber band nails my arm hard
I've tried similar feels before. It is always felt too rigid in mechanical. I invested in the plane mate training aid which basically teaches you the same feels. Just didn't feel like I was swinging it was more of a mechanical Ridgid move. Especially with the wrists like that. These feels don't seem like a swing to me they feel more like a hit.
Brendan No matter how much you turn nothing can overcome your left arm being STEEP . You’re left arm needs flatten in transition ie move out parallel to the ground in transition then feel like your hands cover your vision of the ball . All the other stuff he’s explaining are spot on ! Your left arm is the issue . Message me on Instagram @golfswingindex
Did this guy buy the San Diego franchise for Milo golf? He's got the Milo hat? His explanations were really, really spot on and I agree helped you more than any other BBB segment! This was a great lesson. Let's hear more from Ed!
I see the same things over and over in these lessons by different instructors - expecting to see the same things. I note the emphasis on “turning” from this guy, he points out the hips are expected to be continually more turned than the shoulders throughout the downswing and beyond the point of contact. He correctly points out that how rotated the hips are (say, at any point in the downswing, maybe at the point of contact) is a function of the type of shot shape you’re looking to create. One thing that is consistent I notice is that the harder one swings the easier it is to make a mistake. Haven’t seen a lesson yet on TH-cam discussing how to hit fairways and greens and play with strategy over raw power. Can a PGA event still be won by a guy only hitting the ball 250 to 270 off the tee? We wouldn’t know because EVERYONE is playing for power now. I see some instructors on TH-cam telling the audience they can hit like 300+ yard drives with no working out, and it having to be a big person - and giving Jamie Sadlowski as an example. But I pointed out Sadlowski worked out hard. The instructor wrote back to deny it! But all that aside, what happened to just going for accuracy? Does everyone expect to hit a sand wedge as their second shot on a par 5? Who is teaching accuracy and consistency? Maybe that is what was being taught here. I can tell the audience here I shot 1-under from the championship tees at Montebello muni (in CA) 6 months after taking up the game back in 1984 as a 22 year old, my instructors being a Jack Nicklaus picture book and anyone at the range willing to advise me, and plenty of practice. But I enjoy practicing. I think that is a key point. I really enjoy spending time on the range. Not too many people like to spend time practicing. I enjoy chipping and putting too, even hitting shots out of the bunker. The main things I learned within months of taking up the game are that you must keep the club on plane and keep your head in place and not turn too much too soon (but always the hips start the swing and complete the swing) AND to swing no harder than you can properly coordinate all that. In this video we heard about “Trevino,” who would roll balls onto greens. What is wrong with that? For most people I would argue slow down their swing and learn to appreciate the mechanics, power enough comes from a mechanically correct swing. Instructors should be teaching this, along with good shots selection strategy. The first time I broke par I do not think I hit a drive further than 260. I played with a K-mart set of Wilson clubs and a Top-Flite ball. But I was never out of the fairway. I was not trying to hit long drives. Just tried to execute. I would love to see some videos on “execution.” Love to see some videos on “mistakes” (e.g. turning too much too soon; sliding the head, dropping the right shoulder too much, failing to extend and turn, etc.). So as good as these lessons are, we are not seeing any other kind of lessons. Not seeing any course strategy lessons. Rarely a chipping lesson. But, the average person wants to get down the fairway with power so this is what we will see - perfect technique ideals imperfectly executed because power is the main goal. And in closing let me pose the question(s): How many fairways would a long drive guy actually hit in a round? How many greens in regulation?
I'm a mid 60s guy who's had health issues, i no longer hit the ball long, I watched tons of videos to try to increase distance, actually the opposite happened, so i now play within myself, concentrate on keeping the ball in play, i only hit around 220 of the tee so long par 4s i have to use 7 and 5 woods to stand any chance of reaching in regulation, my home course is long, 6600 yards of yellow tees, someo last week i decided to only practice short game, i spent between an hour and an hour and half pitching, chipping and putting, yesterday i shot my lowest score on the course, par 73 shot 78 gross, when l missed the greens i got it up and down almost every time, i think that's a lesson we all need, practice from 50 yards and under and don't be obsessed with distance and the perfect swing
@@richyclubsport5155 I was always halfway decent at putting and chipping - BUT still PLENTY of room for improvement. My putting just improved in the last year taking me from averaging about 33 down to 28 and my chipping improved too. I could not have taken anywhere near so many strokes off my game focusing on the long ball - but I can still easily drive 260. Played with some young pros the other day, and they were hitting over 300 off the tee. I shot 75 and didn’t play particularly well (wind was howling). The more accomplished of the two complimented me to say with your swing you’ll never hurt your back. (I wasn’t keeping their scores but I beat one for sure and was probably tied with the other.) And what I do is just what I described. Golf is a game of geometry and strategy, and the short game is every bit as important as the long game. If someone said “all you will do is play golf and I’ll pay you a salary,” then sure, I’d go from 260 off the tee to 280 or so, and I’d shoot in the 60’s all the time. (Actually I was averaging about 280 last summer, but I was working out, not specifically trying to swing harder. Moving from Long Beach CA to Medford OR last October there was no golf for me until about March. Got fat! Lost the weight though and I’m getting in shape again.) Anyway, this was a good lesson here, but pretty typical. This guy is from I don’t know where, but if I was starting out I’d give him a chance to teach me the full swing. I’m able to teach myself. I found that if you love to practice and have the time you can make it happen. Not many people love to practice. I’m old but not stiff. I can still develop muscle. I don’t know when that will end but I’m not worried about it. I won’t change my philosophy. Watching these guys going for power seems not to be working all that well for them. But maybe they just have fun hitting a super long drive every now and then, that is their biggest thrill. My thrill is the scorecard. And my joy is practice and working out some to stay in shape.
Spot on, my friend. Until courses are toughened up or the ball is restricted, this search for distance will continue. There are plenty of shorter hitters still winning, John Bland from UK for example, won his first tournament at 48 and lead the US Open after 2 rounds till nerves got to him. The average golfer would do a lot better with a shorter controlled swing poking the ball down the middle
@@BEBETTERGOLF I think it’d be great to do a video where they get you in the body suit and take you through everything. Their video showcasing how ams setup vs pros was eye opening. Hips over ankles etc.
@@marklucey1 Sorry for the delay in my response. What I was referring to was his lead arm. Brendon likes to slide and tilt his hips to start his downswing to off set his lead arm and because of his wrist conditions. Once we got the COM more bend his tush it gave his lead a smidge more depth, then we changed how his lower body started the downswing by feelings like he landed left and kept his lead hip moving down and around
I really like your video content, but this swing is so contrary to what Malaska was having you do. Why do you post swings that seem to be (at least to me) so diametrically opposed? As a golfer who is trying to Be Better, this is confusing. What swing pattern is the best?
@@ericschroeder8932 I said in the video that because Brendon tendency was to tilt and pull his hands down that at least initially he would have to contribute some manual manipulation. Over time, the dynamics of his transition will apply a torque to the handle which will shallow the shaft and get him more open.
Brendan has a 2 plane swing and Milo and Ed are teaching a one plane swing! Until Brendan transitions to a one plane swing, he will continue to struggle! Then complete body rotation will work well for him! No shallowing will be necessary! IMO
I agree. Now take it to the course and hit it full speed😝. Boyd S suggests same drill. U are getting ur transition looking great. Now slowly work this into ur game. 👍
@@MiloLinesGolf dude i think i created a new swing drill that really helped me 'get it'. i'm going to try on a few friends and i'll send it via email if it works on them.
11:08 Some things never change, if it wasn’t for some of your guests, I wouldn’t even bother… dude the man is talking directly to you, explaining something to you, and as always, you don’t even acknowledge or pay attention to him, you basically leave the man talking to himself or teaching himself. You invite them to teach you not you teach them or them hear you comment on how you’re struggling, they don’t care. Pay attention! Your disrespect never fails… 👍🏼
You are 100% correct. Let me tell you why he always disrespects the coaches who are trying to help him? He does not pay for the coaching he receives. Simple as that. I am a golf coach and a well-known one at that. But that's not important. He uses his platform to promote those coaches, therefore he gets free advice. If I were explaining something to him and he did not acknowledge it or was not paying attention to me, I would call him out directly. I have watched him many times do the same thing to other coaches on his channel. I would love him to try that shit with me or well-renowned coach Peter Cowan. He would not last 1 min. I don't know why Milo Lines or Ed put up with his disrespectful behavior. When my students come for a lesson they pay attention. Know why? They are paying for my services. I could never coach someone like him, and I'm a patient gay.
I remember when Be Better Golf believed in Mike Malaska...these other guys mean well but what they’re teaching destroys the body and takes away from the natural athletic motions of golf. I would encourage everyone to watch Mike Malaska and you will progress in no time.
We are simply teaching Brendan to swing the club like a baseball player swings a bat. How often do you hear of baseball players getting hurt from swinging?
@@MiloLinesGolf I see some similarities to the L to L drill that Mike Malaska preaches but my concern with this one is that we are assuming that a lot things are already working right in the golf swing in order to do this. Someone new to golf who sees this drill but has no face control could destroy their swing more and potentially hurt their body trying to replicate being more "open" at impact.
@@rocketbabyclash5913 the student in this scenario is not new to golf he is a single digit player that has had lessons from many great coaches but has plateaued. Ed knew who was coming he and I had a discussion about what Brendan needs to take his game to the next level which is what you got to watch here. We teachers have to teach the student in front of us, we have to teach them at the level they are at and help them add the needed skills to continue progressing.
Milo is dead on. Brendon contacted me because he wanted help to do the drill Milo had assigned him and he wanted a pair of eyes on. Is this lesson for everyone, absolutely not. This why I said at the beginning each person is so unique and the lesson has to be individualized to there needs.
@@edlasatergolf Understood, I watched it again, I've been following Be Better Golf for a while and am always curious as to what different pros are teaching, in this case I forgot that this drill was specifically for Brendan and that you're trying to fix a flip follow thru. I just hope that people don't blindly start doing this drill expecting their game to miraculously get better.
As much as Brandon tries he still throws the clubhead. He has all the "buzz words" stolen from what he does, but he will not land correctly to get the club on plane through his initial squat and centering move. This move is not that difficult but he talks to so many instructors he still does the same thing. All arms and extending. Make a choice Brandon.
I’m glad your on a journey to find better golf. I’ve been at it for 45 years, but I did not get access to instructors like you. But, I think Malaska gave you the key but yet you go on looking and the new instructors are taking you away from mike. Keep looking and you’ll get nowhere.
Every video he's doing the same armsy flippy move, each time they fix his swing, yet instead of working on feels and short compression shots he's back too his over swinging and flippy move over again .
I did not notice the hat. However, I thought about modifying my comment after seeing your name mentioned but I thought my comment was valid. I’m just a Milo fan, be happy you are slowly changing my game without vast expense to me!
@@simmo5071 clearly I’m a huge Milo fan as well but, Brendon contacted me wanting to learn a specific thing “how to be more open at impact” and so that’s what we covered.
@@edlasatergolf Ed all is good, your message was delivered much like Milo. My comment really is nitpick-in as to why Brendon moves from instructor to instructor searching for a valid method to make him better. Something we all do get until we lite on something we understand, I tried Several sites and landed on three Danny Maude, Eric Cogorno and my favorite Milo.
Of all the instructors you’ve gone through, this by far was the best results for your swing.
My man Ed is good!
Agreed, Ed is saying the exact same thing lots of other instructors on the channel have said but his methods seem to work better for Brendan specifically.
Just shows finding the right instructor for you is just as important as trying to implement the correct instructions.
I think a lot of that has to do with the way Ed explains himself. If you understand why you need to do things a certain way it can help you get there. Of course if you're flexibility-challenged like me getting more around-and-open-at-impact requires a HUGE effort, partly because the lack of flexibility has led me in the past to take the easy way out and short-stop my rotation.
@@normankleinberg5525 Not saying you aren't flexibility challenged, but I personally used to think I had poor flexibility but it turns out it was poor mechanics (and poor understanding of simple concepts like rotating hips in backswing).
I've heard most instructors say that the majority of golfers are plenty flexible, but that they all think they aren't.
@@canefan17 Fair enough, although Milo even has a section on his site specifically aimed at Senior golfers. It focuses on compensating for the inability to rotate enough, both on the back and through swing. But I would agree that, in general, people are more flexible than they think.
Ed and Milo are the best coaches… stick with them please B….. many thanks for your video’s ….. you are the best channell… ❤❤❤❤❤
Brendan, you need to get a bit more depth in your backswing which might feel more “inside” so that you get pressure to your lead side sooner which will give you a brace to turn and open up without steepening the shaft. You would feel less of a need to reroute the club with wrist angles in the downswing in an effort to shallow it out. 👍
I’ve been watching a long time this is real good demo thanks first class.
This is a great video, exactly what I needed! 3 swings and my rotation and compression is greatly improved! Grooved it with the next 20. Really exciting.
Great to hear Steven
The first time I heard Ed voice, I thought it was Milo speaking, to me they sound so much alike.
Got fit for my old Titleist 910 D2 here. Looks like Slicefixer 9 to 3 drill. Looking good.
Great video. Highlights exactly what I'm working on as well...trying to shallow out without too much manipulation. Rotate, rotate, rotate.
So well explained, i needed this! Thanks!
Thanks Nha
That is IT --- You Got it. It's looks like a new swing --- the way you hit the last drives --- huge difference.
Cee Bee nailed it. Everybody has told you the same address but this gentleman is the GPS you should download :)
Looking good. That looks like Stadium Golf Center.
That closed position on the way down, that they are trying to coach out of you, is what Bobby Lopez recommended you do.
There are many instructors who advocate back to the target as the first move down.
For those of us who are arm swingers and hit from the top, this hitting the ball with your pivot is so counter intuitive
Quite correct. If you can drop down from the top into P6 with the club horizontal and pointing to the target, then you can rotate and open as hard as you like. Very few are supple and skilled enough to do that. We can, however, just swing through that position. Bobby is right. Vardon, Jones, Snead, Nicklaus, Watson, Couples, Mickleson etc. have played quite well without doing what these modern pros are trying to teach us.
I guess I'm too unflexible in the hips and back for this type of swing. I've been trying this for awhile but not consistent.
I’ve found some players need the feel that their back is facing the target just a millisecond as to allow the lower body to recenter. This creates a minor amount of separation
Seth, you are correct generally a persons torso will be slightly closed as there lower is square to the target line at about P5.
Nice work boys!
Notice the Ed’s hat😉
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Looks like Monte’s new no turn cast! BTW we all need a new Monte episode soon!
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Monte is a legend💪🏼🚀
this is exactly what milo tried to teach you.
Learning is a process. Ed is teaching the same principles I teach and Brendan is beginning to understand how things fit together.
good work B
Good ole Stadium Golf, first place I ever swung a club
Looking great!
Brendon, that last driver swing was the best I have seen you make. Don't know where the ball went but the swing was nothing like the pro was trying to teach you, 3/4 bs, easy swing, shoulders almost square at impact, and release. Bobby Lopez would be proud of you. I will email you with some different ideas as promised.
It was a snap hook, you’re correct it’s not what I was teaching him and more specifically not what he asked me to teach him. You’re also correct his shoulders were square and the toe flipped over. Not what you see from the best players in the world late on Sunday.
@@edlasatergolf Ha, that's told me, shows what I know. I still prefer the old-fashioned release, like Phil Mickelson, particularly for the average player, less strain on the back (Collin Morikawa, Will Zalatoris!). I was in a steel corset at 33 after copying Lee Trevino. Old, knackered now, nobody takes any notice of me but I predicted serious back problems for these youngsters. Joaquin Niemann next, I'm afraid.
@@oldprogolf7292 I would agree extremes in any form likely wouldn’t be good for the body or your golf game. But with that being said, my point to Brendon is to put the club in a position where it doesn’t put undo strain on his body while still maximizing his speed and accuracy.
IMO, Like any athletic motion where you swing an object the pelvis moves in the opposite direction and the sternum allows leads the hands and arms. This allows you to maintain balance and limit face rotation.
Thanks for watching and good luck to you👍🏼
This is a great video, but I personally was only able to do this type of swing (milo foundational 2) at slower speeds. Every time I tried to speed it up I got stuck. Passive arms and rotate just isn't for me apparently. I seem to do better with keep back to target and cast the club at the ball.
I would check your trail elbow position. Remember the only difference between Foundation 1 and 2 is the extension of he trail wrist. That extension should angle your trail elbow inside seam line on your shirt thus you won’t be stuck.
@@edlasatergolf Thanks Ed.
The key for me and maybe you is to make sure my butt posture is low enough to start the swing and to make sure it stays there or even go slightly lower during the swing. If I subtly think of this during the swing generally things go pretty well. It seems to create the room for my arms while opening my hips for them to come through.
But actually the truth is your arms are disconnected from your body. That is a for sure for you to be having this type of inconsistency. Your body will always turn with the swing if you’re connected. It’s as simple as that.
DJ, Rory both 'stall' to allow the clubhead to accelerate and get in front of the body. The danger I fear with the swing in this video is the potential for the club to get behind you as well as under plane, particularly when trying to add clubhead speed. If a person is used to swinging like this then sure, but can one transform one's swing effectively into this? I have my doubts.
They stall their pelvis because they get their lower body pointed almost at the target by p6 so everything else’s has to catch up, but their chests don’t stall.
I would have a quick watch of the new Taylormade video with Rory and Maria Fassi were he explains his feels and why letting the club get behind isn’t always bad with the correct rotation mechanics.
I saw that video as well and yes because of their sequence the club does trail their pivots and it is propelled like a catapult through impact. In addition, like Dr. Kwon says, Rory is speeding up his backswing to create a greater shortened stretch cycle to add more speed. That’s a great video.
I am a massive flipper and single digit handicap, and I was on track man with driver swings 117mph to 122mph and best spin rate I could achieve was 3500rpm with a 7.5 and 8 degree driver. Max distance was 270ish carry. Many drives were 4500 spin. A lot of attack angle of 0 or 1up. Many straight drives too. With those numbers I should be over 300 carry but sadly my average was 245ish. This video seriously is going to help me. I’ve already been using a swing thought of dropping the club shaft and hands behind me from top of the backswing but that’s not a full fix. It works using planemate until post impact follow through and it is awful …the rubber band nails my arm hard
Is this with the driver as well?
Obviously I didn’t watch the end of the video 😂
Yes sir it does but unfortunately we didn’t have the time to get into it in depth
I've tried similar feels before. It is always felt too rigid in mechanical. I invested in the plane mate training aid which basically teaches you the same feels. Just didn't feel like I was swinging it was more of a mechanical Ridgid move. Especially with the wrists like that. These feels don't seem like a swing to me they feel more like a hit.
Very similar no doubt
Look at the way your left arm moved when you rehearse the baseball/ tee ball swing left arm moves our essentially on plane out and down
Yes we have had this discussion. He’s getting better but changing patterns is a process
Definitely
Brendan
No matter how much you turn nothing can overcome your left arm being STEEP . You’re left arm needs flatten in transition ie move out parallel to the ground in transition then feel like your hands cover your vision of the ball . All the other stuff he’s explaining are spot on ! Your left arm is the issue . Message me on Instagram @golfswingindex
Did this guy buy the San Diego franchise for Milo golf? He's got the Milo hat? His explanations were really, really spot on and I agree helped you more than any other BBB segment! This was a great lesson. Let's hear more from Ed!
Ed will be formally joining the milolinesgolf team soon. He’s a great guy a really solid player and a really solid coach.
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That’s why you pull
6:03 I LOVE IT!!!! For all the obvious reasons!
@@gordonwood1594 What Ive been saying...Cant argue with the spots this drill got him into though =)
I see the same things over and over in these lessons by different instructors - expecting to see the same things. I note the emphasis on “turning” from this guy, he points out the hips are expected to be continually more turned than the shoulders throughout the downswing and beyond the point of contact. He correctly points out that how rotated the hips are (say, at any point in the downswing, maybe at the point of contact) is a function of the type of shot shape you’re looking to create. One thing that is consistent I notice is that the harder one swings the easier it is to make a mistake. Haven’t seen a lesson yet on TH-cam discussing how to hit fairways and greens and play with strategy over raw power. Can a PGA event still be won by a guy only hitting the ball 250 to 270 off the tee? We wouldn’t know because EVERYONE is playing for power now. I see some instructors on TH-cam telling the audience they can hit like 300+ yard drives with no working out, and it having to be a big person - and giving Jamie Sadlowski as an example. But I pointed out Sadlowski worked out hard. The instructor wrote back to deny it! But all that aside, what happened to just going for accuracy? Does everyone expect to hit a sand wedge as their second shot on a par 5? Who is teaching accuracy and consistency? Maybe that is what was being taught here. I can tell the audience here I shot 1-under from the championship tees at Montebello muni (in CA) 6 months after taking up the game back in 1984 as a 22 year old, my instructors being a Jack Nicklaus picture book and anyone at the range willing to advise me, and plenty of practice. But I enjoy practicing. I think that is a key point. I really enjoy spending time on the range. Not too many people like to spend time practicing. I enjoy chipping and putting too, even hitting shots out of the bunker. The main things I learned within months of taking up the game are that you must keep the club on plane and keep your head in place and not turn too much too soon (but always the hips start the swing and complete the swing) AND to swing no harder than you can properly coordinate all that. In this video we heard about “Trevino,” who would roll balls onto greens. What is wrong with that? For most people I would argue slow down their swing and learn to appreciate the mechanics, power enough comes from a mechanically correct swing. Instructors should be teaching this, along with good shots selection strategy. The first time I broke par I do not think I hit a drive further than 260. I played with a K-mart set of Wilson clubs and a Top-Flite ball. But I was never out of the fairway. I was not trying to hit long drives. Just tried to execute. I would love to see some videos on “execution.” Love to see some videos on “mistakes” (e.g. turning too much too soon; sliding the head, dropping the right shoulder too much, failing to extend and turn, etc.).
So as good as these lessons are, we are not seeing any other kind of lessons. Not seeing any course strategy lessons. Rarely a chipping lesson. But, the average person wants to get down the fairway with power so this is what we will see - perfect technique ideals imperfectly executed because power is the main goal. And in closing let me pose the question(s): How many fairways would a long drive guy actually hit in a round? How many greens in regulation?
I'm a mid 60s guy who's had health issues, i no longer hit the ball long, I watched tons of videos to try to increase distance, actually the opposite happened, so i now play within myself, concentrate on keeping the ball in play, i only hit around 220 of the tee so long par 4s i have to use 7 and 5 woods to stand any chance of reaching in regulation, my home course is long, 6600 yards of yellow tees, someo last week i decided to only practice short game, i spent between an hour and an hour and half pitching, chipping and putting, yesterday i shot my lowest score on the course, par 73 shot 78 gross, when l missed the greens i got it up and down almost every time, i think that's a lesson we all need, practice from 50 yards and under and don't be obsessed with distance and the perfect swing
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I was always halfway decent at putting and chipping - BUT still PLENTY of room for improvement. My putting just improved in the last year taking me from averaging about 33 down to 28 and my chipping improved too. I could not have taken anywhere near so many strokes off my game focusing on the long ball - but I can still easily drive 260. Played with some young pros the other day, and they were hitting over 300 off the tee. I shot 75 and didn’t play particularly well (wind was howling). The more accomplished of the two complimented me to say with your swing you’ll never hurt your back. (I wasn’t keeping their scores but I beat one for sure and was probably tied with the other.) And what I do is just what I described. Golf is a game of geometry and strategy, and the short game is every bit as important as the long game. If someone said “all you will do is play golf and I’ll pay you a salary,” then sure, I’d go from 260 off the tee to 280 or so, and I’d shoot in the 60’s all the time. (Actually I was averaging about 280 last summer, but I was working out, not specifically trying to swing harder. Moving from Long Beach CA to Medford OR last October there was no golf for me until about March. Got fat! Lost the weight though and I’m getting in shape again.) Anyway, this was a good lesson here, but pretty typical. This guy is from I don’t know where, but if I was starting out I’d give him a chance to teach me the full swing. I’m able to teach myself. I found that if you love to practice and have the time you can make it happen. Not many people love to practice. I’m old but not stiff. I can still develop muscle. I don’t know when that will end but I’m not worried about it. I won’t change my philosophy. Watching these guys going for power seems not to be working all that well for them. But maybe they just have fun hitting a super long drive every now and then, that is their biggest thrill. My thrill is the scorecard. And my joy is practice and working out some to stay in shape.
Spot on, my friend. Until courses are toughened up or the ball is restricted, this search for distance will continue. There are plenty of shorter hitters still winning, John Bland from UK for example, won his first tournament at 48 and lead the US Open after 2 rounds till nerves got to him. The average golfer would do a lot better with a shorter controlled swing poking the ball down the middle
Billy, this lesson is specific to this students stated goal of being more open at impact. It’s not for everyone.
Brenden,
I'm surprised you haven't done a video with Athletic Motion guys. I'm assuming you've reached out though.
I was invited to LA. And I met them briefly at the GOLF show
@@BEBETTERGOLF I think it’d be great to do a video where they get you in the body suit and take you through everything.
Their video showcasing how ams setup vs pros was eye opening. Hips over ankles etc.
I’m still unsure what he meant by “lead are was so up”?
Not pulling the arms down too early I think
Mark, can you give me a time stamp to refresh my recollection? I think I was talking about his lead hip rising to woo to start the downswing.
@@edlasatergolf 1:39 Ed. Thanks.
@@marklucey1 Sorry for the delay in my response. What I was referring to was his lead arm. Brendon likes to slide and tilt his hips to start his downswing to off set his lead arm and because of his wrist conditions. Once we got the COM more bend his tush it gave his lead a smidge more depth, then we changed how his lower body started the downswing by feelings like he landed left and kept his lead hip moving down and around
@@edlasatergolf Thanks Ed. Really good and clear concept you guys showed in this video. Much appreciated.
lighter gear might help for finding easier transition and shorter follow trough
Crushed
Left hip still not moving down and around as shown by both the pros
I agree John, Rome wasn’t built in a day bud👍🏼
You play golf swing. Do some videos where you play 18 holes and show how you score . Can you break 77 ?
He does
I thought this was Milo with a beard!!
p.s I am still waiting for my AcuStrike mate you promised me 🙏
I wished I were that young and thin😂😂😂
One thing that i haven’t seen you try is a bowed left wrist that some pros do, let’s see how that goes/ feels??
So much for arms first
I really like your video content, but this swing is so contrary to what Malaska was having you do. Why do you post swings that seem to be (at least to me) so diametrically opposed? As a golfer who is trying to Be Better, this is confusing. What swing pattern is the best?
Agreed. This kind of flies in the face of what Dana was saying, in terms of "laying off the club".
Bob, remember this video is specifically designed because Brendon wanted to work on a drill where by he gets more open at impact.
@@ericschroeder8932 I said in the video that because Brendon tendency was to tilt and pull his hands down that at least initially he would have to contribute some manual manipulation. Over time, the dynamics of his transition will apply a torque to the handle which will shallow the shaft and get him more open.
@@edlasatergolf thanks for the thoughtful, detailed response. Respect.
Brendan has a 2 plane swing and Milo and Ed are teaching a one plane swing! Until Brendan transitions to a one plane swing, he will continue to struggle! Then complete body rotation will work well for him! No shallowing will be necessary! IMO
Easily the best your swing has ever looked!
Thx Chase
I agree. Now take it to the course and hit it full speed😝. Boyd S suggests same drill. U are getting ur transition looking great. Now slowly work this into ur game. 👍
He’s catching on. Changing patterns is a process but with some teamwork Ed and I have helped Brendan start building better patterns.
@@boudieskate Boyd knows a thing or two about building quality golf swings
@@MiloLinesGolf dude i think i created a new swing drill that really helped me 'get it'. i'm going to try on a few friends and i'll send it via email if it works on them.
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Some things never change, if it wasn’t for some of your guests, I wouldn’t even bother… dude the man is talking directly to you, explaining something to you, and as always, you don’t even acknowledge or pay attention to him, you basically leave the man talking to himself or teaching himself. You invite them to teach you not you teach them or them hear you comment on how you’re struggling, they don’t care. Pay attention! Your disrespect never fails… 👍🏼
You are 100% correct. Let me tell you why he always disrespects the coaches who are trying to help him? He does not pay for the coaching he receives. Simple as that. I am a golf coach and a well-known one at that. But that's not important. He uses his platform to promote those coaches, therefore he gets free advice. If I were explaining something to him and he did not acknowledge it or was not paying attention to me, I would call him out directly. I have watched him many times do the same thing to other coaches on his channel. I would love him to try that shit with me or well-renowned coach Peter Cowan. He would not last 1 min. I don't know why Milo Lines or Ed put up with his disrespectful behavior. When my students come for a lesson they pay attention. Know why? They are paying for my services. I could never coach someone like him, and I'm a patient gay.
I remember when Be Better Golf believed in Mike Malaska...these other guys mean well but what they’re teaching destroys the body and takes away from the natural athletic motions of golf. I would encourage everyone to watch Mike Malaska and you will progress in no time.
We are simply teaching Brendan to swing the club like a baseball player swings a bat. How often do you hear of baseball players getting hurt from swinging?
@@MiloLinesGolf I see some similarities to the L to L drill that Mike Malaska preaches but my concern with this one is that we are assuming that a lot things are already working right in the golf swing in order to do this. Someone new to golf who sees this drill but has no face control could destroy their swing more and potentially hurt their body trying to replicate being more "open" at impact.
@@rocketbabyclash5913 the student in this scenario is not new to golf he is a single digit player that has had lessons from many great coaches but has plateaued. Ed knew who was coming he and I had a discussion about what Brendan needs to take his game to the next level which is what you got to watch here. We teachers have to teach the student in front of us, we have to teach them at the level they are at and help them add the needed skills to continue progressing.
Milo is dead on. Brendon contacted me because he wanted help to do the drill Milo had assigned him and he wanted a pair of eyes on. Is this lesson for everyone, absolutely not. This why I said at the beginning each person is so unique and the lesson has to be individualized to there needs.
@@edlasatergolf Understood, I watched it again, I've been following Be Better Golf for a while and am always curious as to what different pros are teaching, in this case I forgot that this drill was specifically for Brendan and that you're trying to fix a flip follow thru. I just hope that people don't blindly start doing this drill expecting their game to miraculously get better.
As much as Brandon tries he still throws the clubhead. He has all the "buzz words" stolen from what he does, but he will not land correctly to get the club on plane through his initial squat and centering move. This move is not that difficult but he talks to so many instructors he still does the same thing. All arms and extending. Make a choice Brandon.
I’m glad your on a journey to find better golf. I’ve been at it for 45 years, but I did not get access to instructors like you. But, I think Malaska gave you the key but yet you go on looking and the new instructors are taking you away from mike. Keep looking and you’ll get nowhere.
Every video he's doing the same armsy flippy move, each time they fix his swing, yet instead of working on feels and short compression shots he's back too his over swinging and flippy move over again .
Surely Milo had you hit tons of shots with just using your pivot. So why spend the money traveling to different instructors?
Ed is on my team. Did you notice his hat.
I did not notice the hat. However, I thought about modifying my comment after seeing your name mentioned but I thought my comment was valid. I’m just a Milo fan, be happy you are slowly changing my game without vast expense to me!
@@simmo5071 clearly I’m a huge Milo fan as well but, Brendon contacted me wanting to learn a specific thing “how to be more open at impact” and so that’s what we covered.
@@edlasatergolf Ed all is good, your message was delivered much like Milo. My comment really is nitpick-in as to why Brendon moves from instructor to instructor searching for a valid method to make him better. Something we all do get until we lite on something we understand, I tried Several sites and landed on three Danny Maude, Eric Cogorno and my favorite Milo.
I'm surprised he can hit the ball at all. The swing instruction he's getting in this video is the complete opposite of what Malaska taught him.