Pragmatism wins in the end. The peace loving Avatar is willing to just kill his bastard brother, instead of risking a drawn out wizard duel. Then gain, I'm pretty sure the Luger would be considered a dueling pistol too.
@@hariman7727if only any other character aside from Indiana Jones understood “just shoot him and stop talking, also don’t get into hand range when you are holding a RANGED weapon”
@@Charnel_Heartand whatever Avatar would have pulled, the fact Black Wolf lets him pull the most basic sleight of hand trick is an act of hubris that ends costing him.
"I am a dedicated but not an absolute pacifist; this means that I am opposed to the use of force under any circumstances except when confronted by an enemy who pursues the destruction of life as an end in itself." - Albert Einstein
Moral of the story: "It's okay to be a hippie pacifist, as long as you know when to stop mucking about and do what needs to be done when the situation calls for it."
This ending still fucks me up sometimes. It's goddamn genius. On the surface, it looks like a 180 of the movie's fairly consistent tone, but there's nothing about the gun, technology, or even propaganda that's necessarily evil: it's their use that colors them that way. The same could be said for Avatar's trickery and deception- which, by the way, is another reason why this scene is great: Blackwolf gets killed here because it never occurred to him that Avatar would resort to underhanded methods or technology made for killing. Avatar's too smart for that idealistic bullshit, though. Avatar isn't about lofty ideals or a sense of honor, he's about getting the fucking job done and putting an end to the madness. And then he tosses the gun without a second thought becuase, as with any principles he carries, he isn't married to it and it doesn't define who he is or what he does. The gun was a tool for defeating evil, and now that evil is defeated he no longer needs it. Raph Bakshi's "Avatar, or: Solving the Fucking Problem" I fucking LOVE this ending.
I also liked how it's a total subversion of expectations. The movie is called Wizards but there's no magic. Just tech people think is magic. Just trickery. This build up to a final confrontation, and then Avatar just blasts the fucker. It's great.
What do you do when there is a evil you cannot defeat by just means do you stain your hands with evil to defeat the greater evil or do you remain steadfastly right and just even if it means surrendering to evil
That's a terrible advice, you being a coward doesn't get you far and Professor Farnsworth doesn't live with other humans and he is distantly isolated in a scapeship. You will be subject to laws. Also forget academically eliciting anything and being on the news.
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son of a bitch" okay, 1. that is probably the most badass quote ever given by a wizard since "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" and 2. did he essentially call his own mom a bitch?
First saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
This is what you call 'narrative irony,' and Ralph Bakshi uses it really well here. Avatar comes from a land that preaches 'no technology.' But him pulling a gun on his evil brother to save Montegar is not only a surprising (and effective) trick, but it's ironic in that he uses a piece of technology to stop one who uses technology for evil. Here, Avatar is using technology in an act of good.
Yeah, historical context aside, It is a beautiful piece of engineering. Whenever I have to draw a gun, it is usually a Lugar, for the same reason when I draw shoes, it's usually Converse.
How a final battle between a simple good guy and an arrogant bad guy should be: Not a drawn-out test of skill, but when the good guy has HAD IT with the bad guy and gives him a reality check.
smv4usa like they say, if someone is about to kill You, pray its an evil man, he will sit and lecture and gloat giving you time. But a good man... A good man will kill you without a second thought
@@polygonfighter6600 I don't know about that. A good man would not be so good if He just killed right away. A good man would have a conscious to tell him to think twice of what he's about to do. But in Avatar's case, He's had a lifetime to contemplate killing his evil brother. So he know's what he's doing.
@@josephcalabrese6337 thats true, i suppose its more that the implications of the statement, that being that if an evil man is going to kill you, you just have to be in their way, but if a good man is going to kill you you had to be evil enough to warrant being killed and such
I do like how sad Avatar looks after shooting his brother, and the hesitation of the final shot, and how he throws the gun away after the act. Hits you in the feels, on in Blackwolf’s case, the lung.
That’s not how I interpreted that. It already seems like a mad hateful scene given Avatar’s pump fake. I feel like he wanted to see his brother suffer a little bit before he finished him off.
“A FAMAILY Picture”, honestly I miss these kinds of movies for kids/families and having a PG rating DID mean “Parental Guidance is Advised” Granted I was born in the 90’s but I was raised on movies like Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure, Watership Down, a bit of Wizards, the original Star Wars trilogy, Jaws, Gremlins and so many more that that pushed the “Ya know, for kids” line many times but have now aged like fine wine these days
first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
People seems to forget that this movie was done in the 70`s, reflecting not only on it`s aesthetics and themes, but on it`s moral too. See, Avatar is basically a hippie dude who wants only peace and whatnot. Black Wolf, of course is the one who wants warfare and domination. Now, the movie plays on those two ideals, showing not only that endless war is a terrible thing, but how extreme pacifism is impractical at the best. So, even if Avatar is not a big fan of violence, does not that mean he can`t be violent to protect himself, or else he is doomed from the start. That`s literally the moral of the movie. A nice poke at the hippie generation and their impractical utopia, while showing a better way than just warmongering.
I took the message as: dangerous technology depends on who has it. And I like that since I hate it when stories are too much 'modern technology is something bad guys use.' They seem to gloss over how crappy life was without stuff like modern plumbing and electricity.
Sans Nom The way I took it was that Avatar pretty much forsook his beliefs on technology and stooped to his brothers level to kill him. It felt melancholic that a peace loving wizard would just whip out a gun and murder his brother ( Which was completely justified) instead of trying to find some alternate solution, or even just use magic to stop him. I don’t know. That was just my reaction to it.
It pays to be a pacifist as long as you can fight when the odds are against you. "A man that desires peace so much that he's willing to fight for it when he must is more dangerous than any warmongerer." The words of my martial arts master.
Right at the beginning of the movie Wizards, the Counsil of Women (and one of their advisers) state that they've been in peace so long that they neglected advancement, and became soft. Black Wolf wasn't the villain because he used technology to try to conquer the world. He's the villain because he's trying to conquer the world in the first place!
Duno what 'baller" means ( that's a word alien to MY vocab evidently ), but first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
I love how Trigun plays with the same concepts as this movie and comes to the same conclusion, but I've watched this scene 5 times now in a row and I'm still in shock of how good it is.
@@peaceable263 It's because there's a subtle difference in what each story tries to convey, Vash spares Knives is him taking control, not letting himself be swayed by other's ideals, he won't renounce to the protection of life first and foremost, but he will know to do as necessary when the time calls for it, killing Knives accomplishes nothing at that point, because Vash has always been stronger than him.
I get the sense they really did not want to kill each other, given how Black Wolf gave Avatar a chance to surrender, despite thinking he can still win easy. Avatar did what he had to, but he just looks defeated from it, Black Wolf was still his brother. That bond is not easy to get rid of, despite how much you want to.
you also have to remember that Avatar was a pacifist. The last time he actually fought someone was back when his brother tried for his original conquest of the world.
Funny how the black wolf allowed his army to use technology but not himself, he still relied on good old magic. While his brother uses it because he know he’ll never expect it.
I'll never forget the first time I saw this ending. I must have gone back and watched this a dozen times, completely surprised by this ending. It's right up there with the Raiders of the Lost Ark scene where Indy shoots the swordsman. You're expecting this epic fight and he just caps him with a Luger. Total genius
Thank Harrison Ford being sicker than a dog during the filming. Indy actually was supposed to fight the dude legit, but Ford had zero energy thanks to him getting dysentery and so asked if they can make Indy shoot the guy and be done with it.
Glinko Glinkomes I wanna show you a trick Snape showed me when you weren't around. Oh! and one last thing "Dark Lord." I'm glad you changed your name you son of a bitch! Bang, one shot through Voldemorts noseless face. The irony of him being brought low by a tool invented by the muggles he hates so much.
Oh, man, this is one of my favorite movie endings of all time! I remember my Dad taking me to see this movie when I was young and this ending never left me. Just that offhanded snarl of "Oh yeah, one more thing--I'm glad you changed your last name, you SONUVABITCH," makes me cackle in delight every time. Avatar telling his angry Goth brother "Right, I'm done with you," in the most direct and unexpected way imaginable! Love it.
This movie could be seen as one big metaphor. In a world where magic and fantasy exist, it's easy to get lost in its enticing allure. When the reality check comes, even fictional worlds are never spared it's ire, and quickly consume it's participants as well as its spectators.
I never seen this movie but my friend told me about this movie and said it was a kids film. Judging from this scene, something tells me he is a fucking liar.
lol, yeah definitely not a kids movie. said friend probably assumes all cartoons are for kids. in fairness, it could be worse; Fritz the Cat and some of Bakshi's non-fantasy films would be even worse for kids.
Keep in mind that this was made in a time where violence like this wasn't really controlled by the industry, so all cartoons in essence were "for kids."
Nah man. Watership down? Plauge dogs? Both great and educational movies that were for kids its just they taught truth unlike the stupid shit now. Back in the day everything animated was for kids but regulation ruined these types of movies.
Sad to say chap, it is. PG Rating, but actually meaning it. It's amazing how PG was taken so seriously back then. Right now, this would've been rated like 14A in Canada.
@@koichidignitythief7429 Not only that, but he makes the jukebox appear in place of a couple cages of small creatures. So he either transforms living things into a piece of technology, or banishes them somewhere else so he can entertain his guests.
Best "twist " ending of all time . And I was lucky enough to have seen it sitting in a stoked 71 AMC Javelin SST stoned to the gills totally unprepared for it . And what a beautiful luger .
I always felt that the final duel between the two brothers was going to be a gun fight Blackwolf knew he can't beat avatar at magic And avatar also knew he isn't at his peak anymore So both brother were going to pull out a gun at each other
I mean, Gandalf effectively brushed off Saruman whenever he met him after the first big reveal of Saruman's villainy. Gandalf's main task was to be the opponent of Sauron in that Age, and he was victorious. Saruman was small change that could be left in low quality house arrest guarded by trees, then murdered by his own abused underling in front of an audience of hobbits. He wasn't ever treated as being much more important than the single danger of his charismatic voice. He was basically left to solve his own equation to zero after the Ents broke his physical power.
Wow. This is one of, if not the greatest displays of magic abilities I have ever seen, and I’ve seen em’ all. Gandalf, Dumbledore, Merlin, everything. This is truly awe-inspiring. The animators captured this brilliant display of fantastical power perfectly.
I saw this movie with my buddies on shrooms last night, and my God, we were not prepared for this movie. Many laughs and "wtfs!?" were made that night 🤣🤣
love how avatar rolls up one sleeve first, and then goes in the other sleeve where the gun is. Blackwolf may have been expecting something at first, but then was caught off guard by thinking avatar was just going to roll up the other sleeve and perform some sort of magic trick.
Earlier in the movie, the green wiz says something like, " Magic is too convoluted, not meant for a guy like me." Then he uses slight of hand and a gun to best his brother and stop him!!!! Beautiful!!!!
It’s an interesting detail that Avatar is using a Luger, one of the quintessential bad-guy guns. Really reinforces that he’s being forced to perform an evil act for a good cause.
i greatly enjoy that this scene is not only “fuck talking it out w evil dudes, eliminate existential threats” but its also, “double tap the bastards”. so much death and misery in fiction and in reality because people refused to kill evil, or didnt make sure they were dead
This must be the only moment in media history that makes a Missed Moment of Awesomeness and a Crowning Moment of Awesomeness at the same FREAKING time.
@@eatanotherzio6811 They wouldn't. What are you talking about? It's not like his movies weren't controversial for the public back then. If he didn't care then and continued to do his work, then he wouldn't care today either, you moron.
“Holy symbols like crosses and blessed water occasionally have an effect, but are dependent upon the personal faith of the user. Most Hunters opt for violence over faith; we're kind of like soccer fans that way.” ― Larry Correia, Monster Hunter International
I first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
Watched this movie for the first time ever, yesterday. My jaw dropped when this happened. I have so many thoughts about this film....ahhhhhhh. God, I love movies that make you think, and this is one of those.
@jacoblgames well he said he was glad Black Wolf changed his last name correct me if I'm wrong doesn't that mean Black Wolf disowned his familial lineage so he's technically not avatar's brother? I dunno.
Nah, he's just glad that by changing his name, his reputation won't besmirch the rest of his family's own. IE: "I'm glad nobody else knows you're my brother."
Somebody else here said it best. Good defending itself can be terrifying. If you push it far enough it has far less mercy than evil. For example Blackwolf actually felt something for his brother. Avatar... Only felt recoil.
Black Wolf was expecting magic from another wizard. He was ready for EVERY sort of magical attack, ready with every sort of magical defense and countermeasure. Ready to fight a magic duel to the worse than death. Ready to gleefully show Avatar just how weak and feeble his magic was in comparison to the great Black Wolf. What Black Wolf was not ready for was a bullet. Because he wasn't expecting that. Because why would any wizard use some lesser mundane weapon when they can use MAGIC, a greater weapon than every single mundane weapon combined?! It was an idea that Black Wolf had never even concieved, let alone considered. Totally unthinkable. So laughably impossible Black Wolf dismissed it before it ever became a conscious thought. This is exactly why Avatar did exactly that. He couldn't win a magic duel with Black Wolf and knew that. But he ALSO knew he never once said it was gonna be a magical duel at all. He knew Black Wolf would just assume that because they were both wizards. Black Wolf would go all in on preparing to fight magic with magic just because Avatar was a wizard. He couldn't out-magic Black Wolf so he out-brained him instead. He did the one thing Black Wolf would never have been ready for even with a billion years to prepare: a wizard opponent NOT using magic at all and just using a mundane weapon. This is the difference between a Wizard and a Sorcerer. A Sorcerer casts spells... but he thinks ONLY in spells and magic. A Wizard CAN cast spells... but always considers all other options available equally. Which is why a Wizard always beats a Sorcerer... every time.
I did appreciate the way this ending subverted expectations. You expect some kind of actual magical spell fight. But he just pulls a gun, something you never expect him to use. And just shoots his brother.
No one else gonna mention how uncanny avatar sounds to columbo, he even uses his damn catchphrase and he is in fact not voiced by Falk.
This comment needs to be higher up
@@TornaitSuperBirdtrue
I just came off of Gianni's "Evil Columbo", and "one more thing" was dancing on my mind.
I was just thinking the same thing, I was suprised it wasn't Falk
Is your profile picture from Slayers, perhaps?
Remember: Only a good wizard with a gun can stop a bad wizard with... film projectors that show Hitler and Nazi warfare. Or something like that.
Pragmatism wins in the end. The peace loving Avatar is willing to just kill his bastard brother, instead of risking a drawn out wizard duel.
Then gain, I'm pretty sure the Luger would be considered a dueling pistol too.
@@hariman7727if only any other character aside from Indiana Jones understood “just shoot him and stop talking, also don’t get into hand range when you are holding a RANGED weapon”
"I am immune to blade, hammer, and arrow, you cannot kill me!"
"What about a gun?"
"A what?"
Is that a quote, if it is I’m curious where it’s from.
Vulcan gun:"Brrrrr"
The moral i took from this scene in particular of the movie is, "violence is a last resort, but a damn effective one you shouldnt fear"
As the saying goes "Those who use violence as a first resort will eventually run into someone who uses it as a last resort".
Ghandi would be proud
@@quinnfletcher3906 neat quote
@accelerationquanta5816you develop elaborate rituals that allow you to touch other men
@accelerationquanta5816you know by that logic you'd be the films villain right?
Well, Black Wolf DID want a wizard's duel. He just never specified the weapons!
Reminds me of the Wizards' duel in Disney's Sword in the Stone.
@@mightymax9948 With changed roles
A wizard duel should be a test of wits as much as anything else, and that is exactly what was displayed here.
@@Charnel_Heartand whatever Avatar would have pulled, the fact Black Wolf lets him pull the most basic sleight of hand trick is an act of hubris that ends costing him.
"I am a dedicated but not an absolute pacifist; this means that I am opposed to the use of force under any circumstances except when confronted by an enemy who pursues the destruction of life as an end in itself." - Albert Einstein
Quick Einstein fact:
He was a socialist
@@geemcspankinson
Another quick Einstein fact:
He was smart.
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337
Quick Orwell fact:
He was a socialist
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337
Also, Steven Hawking
@@geemcspankinson another point for socialism!
Moral of the story:
"It's okay to be a hippie pacifist, as long as you know when to stop mucking about and do what needs to be done when the situation calls for it."
That is true. Being a dove ins't a problem, but sometimes its like what Android 16 said. There are just some people who words alone can't reach.
@@DarkArtistKaiser Words no. But that bullet certainly did!
That's why we call it communist propaganda kids, REMEMBA! TAIWAN NUMBA ONE!
Also, always shoot nazis.
Its a good moral
I love how his mother taught him that. That's good parenting right there.
Well then.
That worked.
That Weird Guy From Work certainly saved the budget on animating a long wizards duel
Would have made the final battle of Harry and Voldemort more interesting.
Finish off the dark wizard with Vernon’s shotgun.
This ending still fucks me up sometimes. It's goddamn genius. On the surface, it looks like a 180 of the movie's fairly consistent tone, but there's nothing about the gun, technology, or even propaganda that's necessarily evil: it's their use that colors them that way. The same could be said for Avatar's trickery and deception- which, by the way, is another reason why this scene is great: Blackwolf gets killed here because it never occurred to him that Avatar would resort to underhanded methods or technology made for killing. Avatar's too smart for that idealistic bullshit, though. Avatar isn't about lofty ideals or a sense of honor, he's about getting the fucking job done and putting an end to the madness. And then he tosses the gun without a second thought becuase, as with any principles he carries, he isn't married to it and it doesn't define who he is or what he does. The gun was a tool for defeating evil, and now that evil is defeated he no longer needs it.
Raph Bakshi's "Avatar, or: Solving the Fucking Problem"
I fucking LOVE this ending.
I also liked how it's a total subversion of expectations. The movie is called Wizards but there's no magic. Just tech people think is magic. Just trickery. This build up to a final confrontation, and then Avatar just blasts the fucker. It's great.
That word, "principle", I don't think it means what you think it means. If you can discard them, they aren't principle.
@@TheBananamonger oh I don't remember that. It's this one scene from the final bit that was stuck in my memory, hence wanting to go back and see it.
What do you do when there is a evil you cannot defeat by just means do you stain your hands with evil to defeat the greater evil or do you remain steadfastly right and just even if it means surrendering to evil
@@skullmaister stain your hands, of course
I completely died laughing at this scene, I wasn't expecting it at all. "Who needs courage when you have a gun?" Professor Farnsworth
🤣🤣
Or a P08 Luger
I still say Harry Potter shoulda pulled out Accio M1 Garand against Voldemort.
That's a terrible advice, you being a coward doesn't get you far and Professor Farnsworth doesn't live with other humans and he is distantly isolated in a scapeship. You will be subject to laws. Also forget academically eliciting anything and being on the news.
0:57 I love Black Wolf’s face here, he never thought he would be defeated by Avatar using dirty tactics AND technology.
It ain't dirty if it's against the villains
@@GM-kp7yw Fair. But Black Wolf was too arrogant to see Avatar as anything more than a hippie.
Kinda ironic since he loves watching WWII videos
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son of a bitch"
okay, 1. that is probably the most badass quote ever given by a wizard since "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"
and 2. did he essentially call his own mom a bitch?
Black Wolf changed his name and rejected his family, so no.
Blackwolf chose to believe that he was the heir of Hitler and his girlfriend. So no.
First saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
I don't think Avatar sees Black Wolf as family anymore, so no
@@xenomang3149 The name adolf comes from old German word "Aethelwulf" which means noble wolf. Maybe that's why he changed his name to Black Wolf.
I love how after avatar hit him with the first bullet black wolf looked genuinely shocked that he did it lol
About fucking time to clear that smug Look from his face
And the he hits him with a second one, just for good measure xD
I mean if I’m a powerful wizard facing another powerful wizard and he just pulls a gun out and shoots me, I’d be genuinely shocked as well
D: You SHOT me!
Avatar just pulled an "Indiana Jones" on him.
Never bring powerful magic to a gunfight.
Specy J just imagine him rummaging through some ruins and finding Raiders of the Lost Ark VHS tape and taking notes
And several years before Raiders of the Lost Ark
So Bakshi told all filmmakers “this is how you do a badass battle”
This is what you call 'narrative irony,' and Ralph Bakshi uses it really well here. Avatar comes from a land that preaches 'no technology.' But him pulling a gun on his evil brother to save Montegar is not only a surprising (and effective) trick, but it's ironic in that he uses a piece of technology to stop one who uses technology for evil. Here, Avatar is using technology in an act of good.
+velociraptor4you And it's a German Luger
Greg Robinson The pistol? Huh, I didn't know that until now.
Yeah, historical context aside, It is a beautiful piece of engineering.
Whenever I have to draw a gun, it is usually a Lugar, for the same reason when I draw shoes, it's usually Converse.
Tim O'callaghan You an artist?
Tim O'callaghan Oh, so you are. Thanks. :)
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.
Mark hamill was in this movie. fun fact to go with that quote
JEG Amazon's description of this movie makes sure to highlight that fact, even though he only gets four fucking lines.
Another fun fact: this movie was originally supposed to be titled Wizard Wars, but it came out in 1977, so...yeah.
Han Solo was the wisest... He knew what the real magic was.
Lol
How a final battle between a simple good guy and an arrogant bad guy should be: Not a drawn-out test of skill, but when the good guy has HAD IT with the bad guy and gives him a reality check.
You would love the City Watch series of Discworld books!
smv4usa like they say, if someone is about to kill You, pray its an evil man, he will sit and lecture and gloat giving you time. But a good man... A good man will kill you without a second thought
@@polygonfighter6600 I don't know about that. A good man would not be so good if He just killed right away. A good man would have a conscious to tell him to think twice of what he's about to do.
But in Avatar's case, He's had a lifetime to contemplate killing his evil brother. So he know's what he's doing.
@@josephcalabrese6337 thats true, i suppose its more that the implications of the statement, that being that if an evil man is going to kill you, you just have to be in their way, but if a good man is going to kill you you had to be evil enough to warrant being killed and such
Avatar found a Raiders of the Lost Ark VHS tape in some ruins and took notes
I do like how sad Avatar looks after shooting his brother, and the hesitation of the final shot, and how he throws the gun away after the act. Hits you in the feels, on in Blackwolf’s case, the lung.
Also Blackwolf was willing to spare him. He had some humanity in him after all.
That’s not how I interpreted that. It already seems like a mad hateful scene given Avatar’s pump fake. I feel like he wanted to see his brother suffer a little bit before he finished him off.
I more see it as Avatar waiting to see if he needed to waste another bullet or not.
Just because it’s necessary doesn’t mean you like or even want to do it.
Ralph Bakshi himself said that this film was his attempt to show that he could make a kids movie and still be good!
He may have meant RELATIVE to his EARLIER films - Fritz The Cat, Coonskin, Heavy Traffic.
Only it wasn't really a kids movie, otherwise it would not have been rated PG.
Its a kids movie alright
Just dont show em Elinores concept art in the special features
“A FAMAILY Picture”, honestly I miss these kinds of movies for kids/families and having a PG rating DID mean “Parental Guidance is Advised”
Granted I was born in the 90’s but I was raised on movies like Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure, Watership Down, a bit of Wizards, the original Star Wars trilogy, Jaws, Gremlins and so many more that that pushed the “Ya know, for kids” line many times but have now aged like fine wine these days
I mean I saw this when I 8 and it was something I use to watch all the time growing up
That seriously took me by surprise, but hell... I loved that quick draw!
first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
"I'm glad you changed your last name you son of a bitch."
Love this line. Has so many layers and is fantastic characterization.
But he called his own mom a bitch.
People seems to forget that this movie was done in the 70`s, reflecting not only on it`s aesthetics and themes, but on it`s moral too.
See, Avatar is basically a hippie dude who wants only peace and whatnot. Black Wolf, of course is the one who wants warfare and domination.
Now, the movie plays on those two ideals, showing not only that endless war is a terrible thing, but how extreme pacifism is impractical at the best. So, even if Avatar is not a big fan of violence, does not that mean he can`t be violent to protect himself, or else he is doomed from the start. That`s literally the moral of the movie.
A nice poke at the hippie generation and their impractical utopia, while showing a better way than just warmongering.
"Violence is bad, but actual literal wizard nazis are way worse"
I took the message as: dangerous technology depends on who has it. And I like that since I hate it when stories are too much 'modern technology is something bad guys use.' They seem to gloss over how crappy life was without stuff like modern plumbing and electricity.
Sans Nom The way I took it was that Avatar pretty much forsook his beliefs on technology and stooped to his brothers level to kill him. It felt melancholic that a peace loving wizard would just whip out a gun and murder his brother ( Which was completely justified) instead of trying to find some alternate solution, or even just use magic to stop him. I don’t know. That was just my reaction to it.
Do no harm, take no shit.
In short, peace is nice, but a gun is a gun.
I just noticed he used a Luger pistol. Fitting.
Oh yeah they're reliable. Not quite as reliable as a revolver but still...
He probably got it off the general from the previous scene.
Taking down a dark Nazi warlord with a product of Nazi weaponry
@@crimsondynamo615 Irony
@Notausername101 In Imperial Germany, predecessor of Third Reich in many ways.
It pays to be a pacifist as long as you can fight when the odds are against you. "A man that desires peace so much that he's willing to fight for it when he must is more dangerous than any warmongerer." The words of my martial arts master.
The most baller thing I have ever seen.
Right at the beginning of the movie Wizards, the Counsil of Women (and one of their advisers) state that they've been in peace so long that they neglected advancement, and became soft.
Black Wolf wasn't the villain because he used technology to try to conquer the world. He's the villain because he's trying to conquer the world in the first place!
Duno what 'baller" means ( that's a word alien to MY vocab evidently ), but first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
My favorite move is him just dropping the piece afterwards like a fucking pimp.
The funny thing is...they actually did it in an episode of HISHE. ^^
"For his Neutral Special, he wields a GUN"
Found it
It's amazing to come back to an old video, and see a more recent meme in the comments that fits perfectly. XD
I love how Trigun plays with the same concepts as this movie and comes to the same conclusion, but I've watched this scene 5 times now in a row and I'm still in shock of how good it is.
Woooow you’re right.
Trigun did too but pussied out to save the brother.
@@peaceable263 It's because there's a subtle difference in what each story tries to convey, Vash spares Knives is him taking control, not letting himself be swayed by other's ideals, he won't renounce to the protection of life first and foremost, but he will know to do as necessary when the time calls for it, killing Knives accomplishes nothing at that point, because Vash has always been stronger than him.
I get the sense they really did not want to kill each other, given how Black Wolf gave Avatar a chance to surrender, despite thinking he can still win easy.
Avatar did what he had to, but he just looks defeated from it, Black Wolf was still his brother.
That bond is not easy to get rid of, despite how much you want to.
you also have to remember that Avatar was a pacifist. The last time he actually fought someone was back when his brother tried for his original conquest of the world.
Those secret evil wizard lairs are so flimsy. A couple gunshots and the whole thing comes down.
+CoffeeCupGoodness They operate on video game boss battle logic. I mean, the whole thing looks like a final level of a Castlevania game, doesn't it?
+CoffeeCupGoodness Load bearing boss.
hahahaha omg my whole life just flashed before my eyes reading this. so fucking true lmao
What do you expect when you depend on load bearing wizards?
"only in novels do places crumble to dust for no reason, when their spirit is lost"
Funny how the black wolf allowed his army to use technology but not himself, he still relied on good old magic. While his brother uses it because he know he’ll never expect it.
Remember: the greatest magic, is gun.
Tell that to Superman, lol.
And if that don't work... Use more gun.
For his neutral special he wills a *GUN*
works for gene starwind.
No, it's NAPALM.
I'll never forget the first time I saw this ending. I must have gone back and watched this a dozen times, completely surprised by this ending. It's right up there with the Raiders of the Lost Ark scene where Indy shoots the swordsman. You're expecting this epic fight and he just caps him with a Luger. Total genius
Thank Harrison Ford being sicker than a dog during the filming. Indy actually was supposed to fight the dude legit, but Ford had zero energy thanks to him getting dysentery and so asked if they can make Indy shoot the guy and be done with it.
@@Critick3000LMAO nice one
That's should be Harry Potter's ending.
Glinko Glinkomes I wanna show you a trick Snape showed me when you weren't around. Oh! and one last thing "Dark Lord." I'm glad you changed your name you son of a bitch!
Bang, one shot through Voldemorts noseless face.
The irony of him being brought low by a tool invented by the muggles he hates so much.
You know, that would have been better than the trite ending with the Elder Wand betraying Voldemort.
Fricking Harry P[otter would NEVER be THAT edgy in a million years!
we already have that memes
search for "How harry potter shoul had ended?"
Oh, man, this is one of my favorite movie endings of all time! I remember my Dad taking me to see this movie when I was young and this ending never left me. Just that offhanded snarl of "Oh yeah, one more thing--I'm glad you changed your last name, you SONUVABITCH," makes me cackle in delight every time. Avatar telling his angry Goth brother "Right, I'm done with you," in the most direct and unexpected way imaginable! Love it.
I always described this scene to my friends as "The Best Wizard Fight in all of Cinema".
This movie could be seen as one big metaphor.
In a world where magic and fantasy exist, it's easy to get lost in its enticing allure. When the reality check comes, even fictional worlds are never spared it's ire, and quickly consume it's participants as well as its spectators.
Sorry Black Wolf, but you just brought magic to a gunfight
Everyone's gangsta until the wizard pulls out a pistol
A magical pistol is a doom incarnate
Normally I like to mock “everyone’s gangsta” memes but I’m inclined to agree this time.
I never seen this movie but my friend told me about this movie and said it was a kids film.
Judging from this scene, something tells me he is a fucking liar.
lol, yeah definitely not a kids movie. said friend probably assumes all cartoons are for kids. in fairness, it could be worse; Fritz the Cat and some of Bakshi's non-fantasy films would be even worse for kids.
Keep in mind that this was made in a time where violence like this wasn't really controlled by the industry, so all cartoons in essence were "for kids."
Nah man. Watership down? Plauge dogs? Both great and educational movies that were for kids its just they taught truth unlike the stupid shit now. Back in the day everything animated was for kids but regulation ruined these types of movies.
54 now. saw this in the theatre when i was a kid,
that move has inspired/saved me more than once.
Sad to say chap, it is. PG Rating, but actually meaning it. It's amazing how PG was taken so seriously back then. Right now, this would've been rated like 14A in Canada.
Avatar: “I refuse to use technology.”
Also Avatar: *uses a Luger pistol to kill Black Wolf*
Didn't he also have a jukebox in his home that he used?
@@koichidignitythief7429 Not only that, but he makes the jukebox appear in place of a couple cages of small creatures. So he either transforms living things into a piece of technology, or banishes them somewhere else so he can entertain his guests.
Justified the entire movie.
I love Blackwolfs expression, he’s like “DID YOU JUST FUCKING SHOOT ME, WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?”
Best "twist " ending of all time . And I was lucky enough to have seen it sitting in a stoked 71 AMC Javelin SST stoned to the gills totally unprepared for it . And what a beautiful luger .
I love the fact that even their mother knew that Black Wolf was far beyond any sort of repair.
"What the hell is that?"
"You know what it is, bitch"
A warning to evil itself.....when good has had enough IT becomes the horror evil can only imagine itself to be.
I always felt that the final duel between the two brothers was going to be a gun fight
Blackwolf knew he can't beat avatar at magic
And avatar also knew he isn't at his peak anymore
So both brother were going to pull out a gun at each other
Ralph Baskhi: What do you mean we’re out of money?!
This should have been Gandalf's confrontation with Saruman, LOL!
>Saruman
I mean, Gandalf effectively brushed off Saruman whenever he met him after the first big reveal of Saruman's villainy. Gandalf's main task was to be the opponent of Sauron in that Age, and he was victorious.
Saruman was small change that could be left in low quality house arrest guarded by trees, then murdered by his own abused underling in front of an audience of hobbits. He wasn't ever treated as being much more important than the single danger of his charismatic voice. He was basically left to solve his own equation to zero after the Ents broke his physical power.
Wow. This is one of, if not the greatest displays of magic abilities I have ever seen, and I’ve seen em’ all. Gandalf, Dumbledore, Merlin, everything. This is truly awe-inspiring. The animators captured this brilliant display of fantastical power perfectly.
"Behold! The most powerful spell of all! Are you ready to meet god?"
This is the greatest misdirection I have ever seen, you think he's about to pull off some grand spell and instead he pulls out a luger
in a way it was the greatest spell of all: Misdirection
0:37 is finger clips behind the guys stand XD
Can’t believe the Avatar Columbo’d his brother.
I saw this movie with my buddies on shrooms last night, and my God, we were not prepared for this movie. Many laughs and "wtfs!?" were made that night 🤣🤣
Shadow wizard money gang member before the 2020 incident:
Accidentally stumbling onto this movie is probably the best thing that's ever happened to me. He straight up just iced him in his own castle!
I wish my mother had shown me a trick like that.
Makes you wonder what that special occasion was.
love how avatar rolls up one sleeve first, and then goes in the other sleeve where the gun is. Blackwolf may have been expecting something at first, but then was caught off guard by thinking avatar was just going to roll up the other sleeve and perform some sort of magic trick.
That's the just the classic "Nothing up my sleeves" magician routine
Turns out it was a lie
Earlier in the movie, the green wiz says something like, " Magic is too convoluted, not meant for a guy like me." Then he uses slight of hand and a gun to best his brother and stop him!!!! Beautiful!!!!
Avatar sounds a lot like Peter Falk, that "One more thing." Threw me off guard.
This was a deliberate choice on part of the director. The voice actor was directed to emulate Peter Falk and Columbo specifically
It’s an interesting detail that Avatar is using a Luger, one of the quintessential bad-guy guns. Really reinforces that he’s being forced to perform an evil act for a good cause.
"Surrender! Surrender your world!"
So anyways, I started blastin'.
I like how Blackwolf's last look before the second shot isn't betrayal or hatred, but literally just "Damn it, didn't see that coming"
I love how a movie called "Wizards" ended not with a grandiose magic battle, but with a simple gunshot or two. 😆
And that is how to end a Final battle in five minutes.
i greatly enjoy that this scene is not only “fuck talking it out w evil dudes, eliminate existential threats” but its also, “double tap the bastards”. so much death and misery in fiction and in reality because people refused to kill evil, or didnt make sure they were dead
0:45
Gotta love that quote. What better statement to tell your own brother that he's dead to you right before he's dead to everybody else?
This must be the only moment in media history that makes a Missed Moment of Awesomeness and a Crowning Moment of Awesomeness at the same FREAKING time.
I hope bakshi comes back to animation, easily one of my favorite directors and one that definitely deserves more recognition.
He's is to old
@@JB-mb1ro Not only that todays snowflakes would cancel him into his grave
@@eatanotherzio6811 They wouldn't. What are you talking about? It's not like his movies weren't controversial for the public back then. If he didn't care then and continued to do his work, then he wouldn't care today either, you moron.
@@eatanotherzio6811The assertion that he wouldn't be railing against people like you is quite a lofty one.
@@eatanotherzio6811oh shut up
There is a bit of a paralel to the austrian novel William Tell, where out of nowhere the protag shoots the antagonist during his monologue
“Holy symbols like crosses and blessed water occasionally have an effect, but are dependent upon the personal faith of the user. Most Hunters opt for violence over faith; we're kind of like soccer fans that way.”
― Larry Correia, Monster Hunter International
Remains in my top 10 of most satisfying villain deaths.
How Harry Potter Should Have Ended
yup
Frickin Harry Potter is just another typical bland pussy mainstream Hollywood movie, .. . IT would never be THIS EDGY in a million years!!
I first saw THIS when I was like eight years old. It was the FIRST time I'd ever both heard PROFANITY and seen BLOOD in a CARTOON, .. . quite shocking! . . and funny too.
One of the great twists in cinematic history. In my opinion, of course!
Agreed
When the wizard takes a level of gunslinger
This was the original "PARRY THIS YOU FILTHY CASUAL"
Was anyone expecting long-drawn out battle between 2 powerful wizards?
Gol D. Luffy this certainly saved on the budget
Ralph Bakshi is famous for not spending money on animation and the rest of this movie is basically a slideshow, so no not really
Yeah
Watched this movie for the first time ever, yesterday. My jaw dropped when this happened. I have so many thoughts about this film....ahhhhhhh. God, I love movies that make you think, and this is one of those.
1800: I hope we have flying cars.
2020 TH-cam recommendations: Avatar vs. Black Wolf.
The strongest spell is Gun.
@jacoblgames well he said he was glad Black Wolf changed his last name correct me if I'm wrong doesn't that mean Black Wolf disowned his familial lineage so he's technically not avatar's brother? I dunno.
Nah, he's just glad that by changing his name, his reputation won't besmirch the rest of his family's own.
IE: "I'm glad nobody else knows you're my brother."
Only by blood relation, which you can't do anything about.
Man didn’t even need magic to win. Just needed a fucking P08 and won immediately
"I CURSE YOU, I CURSE YOU WITH THE POWER OF MY MIGHTY WIZARD GUN!"
Question: How do you kill black wolf?
Answer: Use his own weapons against him!
Evil wizard: "There is no need for you to die"
Good wizard: *Shoots him in the gut, lets him feel it, then aims for the kill*
Somebody else here said it best. Good defending itself can be terrifying. If you push it far enough it has far less mercy than evil.
For example Blackwolf actually felt something for his brother.
Avatar... Only felt recoil.
I love this movie. This was something my friends and I would watch daily. We were hooked on this film.
He's fine with having no flesh on his arms but a bullet is instantly lethal?
2 bullets
One to abdomen, non lethal. One to the head, lethal.
He's got a point. Black Wolf is more than half lich at this point. It would have been unsurprising if the bullets had little or no effect.
He's so evil that his humerus switched places with his radius and ulna.
He was born like that
Just waiting for him to say "Keep the change you filthy animal" right at the end there
I remember watching the movie thinking there was going to be an epic battle between them, just to get more enlightened to see that awesome death.
Black Wolf was expecting magic from another wizard. He was ready for EVERY sort of magical attack, ready with every sort of magical defense and countermeasure. Ready to fight a magic duel to the worse than death. Ready to gleefully show Avatar just how weak and feeble his magic was in comparison to the great Black Wolf.
What Black Wolf was not ready for was a bullet. Because he wasn't expecting that.
Because why would any wizard use some lesser mundane weapon when they can use MAGIC, a greater weapon than every single mundane weapon combined?! It was an idea that Black Wolf had never even concieved, let alone considered. Totally unthinkable. So laughably impossible Black Wolf dismissed it before it ever became a conscious thought.
This is exactly why Avatar did exactly that.
He couldn't win a magic duel with Black Wolf and knew that. But he ALSO knew he never once said it was gonna be a magical duel at all. He knew Black Wolf would just assume that because they were both wizards. Black Wolf would go all in on preparing to fight magic with magic just because Avatar was a wizard.
He couldn't out-magic Black Wolf so he out-brained him instead. He did the one thing Black Wolf would never have been ready for even with a billion years to prepare: a wizard opponent NOT using magic at all and just using a mundane weapon.
This is the difference between a Wizard and a Sorcerer.
A Sorcerer casts spells... but he thinks ONLY in spells and magic. A Wizard CAN cast spells... but always considers all other options available equally.
Which is why a Wizard always beats a Sorcerer... every time.
Love this ending... did not see it coming
"I cast magic missiles"
"Well, i summon a winston."
Did anyone noticed Black Wolf's skeletal anatomy of both his arms were backwards? 🤨
Good ol gun. Nothing beats gun.
Not even gun.
0:45 - 0:49 my reaction to Handsome Jack's last words in Borderlands 2
I did appreciate the way this ending subverted expectations. You expect some kind of actual magical spell fight. But he just pulls a gun, something you never expect him to use. And just shoots his brother.
Avatar: The Last Leadbender
Ah yes, my favorite wizard spell:
GUN