Great review! I'm loving my extreme so far minus the messed up coil shock (which resulted in a bent suspension pin after a single set of stairs), but that is getting replaced really soon. I've had a lot of doubts and issues with Begode wheels in the past, but they have really stepped up their game lately, and I think the Extreme is so good that there is no reason for anyone to buy an S22 anymore (previously my favorite wheel).
I m kinda begode fan boy, got the extreme its nice power and Suspension feeling 750 lbs spring...landet hard on a jump and bottomed out, the suspension holder bend and cracked opposit rod bend also. Curoius if and when i will get replacement
I really think the Patton is better off road. I prefer the Mini on street. Kind of want to know how others feel. I have a Commander mini street and a Patton knobby and ride both trails and street.
@@RogueTravel patton Suspension is propably better and the responsivness also. Begode should have gone for c38 motor and let it just how its in the master, the smaler tyre would result in 62mph freespin and insane Power nice efficiency, i got the feeling the 2400 wh 50e cant keep up with the c40 demand sometimes
I don’t like my kickstand on my master cause when I go off roading and have any kind of small crash the kickstand bends and gets tweaked. One crash it even bent into the battery case almost puncturing the plastic casing. I like the new kickstand placement. Thanks for another great video 🤙🏼
Another Solid review video Ronin! 🔥🔥 Honestly after watching this I'm come to a complete standstill when it comes to purchasing my next wheel. There's so many Good choices. Trying to pick one seems has become a impossible task at this point. I'm going to Rock what I got through the Winter and buy a new wheel in March of 2024. Thanks for sharing Ronin. Have a Nice day.
Thanks for the review, Ronin! I'd be curious to know the reviews on the revised 900/1300lb springs with their CNC shock absorber. Seems like everyones moving to aftermarket linkages by Luc Vo and Vince in the Facebook groups.
I know these 16" wheels are touted as "trail wheels", but I just got a Patton and have put about 150 trail miles on it, and for the kind of terrain I ride, it is more unstable than my larger Master. Maybe I will get used to it, but so far, 16" does not handle large rocks and lose sand as well as the 18" wheel. But the range and suspension are good and if one is to believe Chooch's most recent review, the range on the 1900 WH Extreme isn't great.
The range on any wheel with as many cells as the Extreme that can go 45+ MPH isn't great unless your riding it like a grandma. I rode my Extreme and S22 Pro on trails and switched between the two over and over again and I was very surprised that the Extreme outperformed the S22, even with the smaller tire (and I ride trails with large rocks, roots, etc).
Interesting to read things like this, given the great deals going on with Masters right now. Master just seems like a no-brainer if you're remotely budget-conscious.
@@jordanb722 I didn't really care for the Master until I got used to it. Now it's a "fav" and they seem to be well-liked by lots of other ppl. Mine has the smaller pack with a higher discharge rate which accounts for some of the range limitation. The only mod I've done was to replace the linkage and I think the newer versions have improvements in that area. Some might find it a tad top-heavy, but I've grown used to that and the other shortcomings, so yes, it's a great wheel for a low price.
Hi Ronin, do you know if the Extreme rim supports tubeless tire? i.e dose the rim has a bump on the two sides to hold up the tubeless tire beads? thanks
Great review! Where did you get the 850lb coil? Do you know what the spring length is? I need something to hold me over until Begode delivers better springs.
Great review! Nothing on Range/Battery performance? Some of the negative aspects including the few cutouts were focused around battery sag and performance. So just curious with c40 motor if the range and fun factor are affected? Or if that was also over egaderated as well. Thanks again for an informative video!
Fun factor is higher with extreme.. the combination of the out this world thrilling torque and acceleration with the optimum agility of the 16" wheel yet still capable of speeds over 50mph is the most fun.. (the greater suspension travel also allows to keep up speed more over uneven terrain)..there are also 50s battery extremes coming for sustaining those higher speeds for longer as otherwise none of these 4p battery 16" wheels excel at sustaining those higher speeds for long with eg. 50e batteries but rates but what they were inherently designed for. They excel and are primarily designed to excel as high torque agile dirt riders
As long as aftermarket pads cost 100$+ the wheels should come with pads, it's already a pain the price for these wheels no need for having to burn 200$ on some pads
So how did the wheel vibrate at 50mph? Was it a speed wobble vibration or a vertical up and down vibration? I think at 50mph you would need to possibly think about wheel balancing to stop vibration to do with the actual tyre and tube?
so I wonder if it is possible to have your wheel professionally balanced with lead wheel weights to stop the vibration the faster you go? @@Ronin_Ryder
Well for street riding... What about the new Master V4? Isn't that one better? It is for sure much cheaper :-). And original Master V1 has very comfy suspension :-).
@@Ronin_Ryder I have met a rider with Master V4 on a group ride. I compared my V12HT with his Master. The pedal height was the same even with no weight on the Master (which put it lower of course) :D. He was really susprised but V12 on the highest settings is high as crazy. So I think that pedal height of the Master is not problem at all for me :). Also V4 suspension and new damper are improved and better than the V1 :)...
Super review comme d'habitude 👍 ! Je partage sur le forum français. Pour la poignée c'est vrai qu'elle cache un peu l'écran, mais pour moi ce n'est pas une erreur de conception de Begode :elle protège bien l'écran en cas de chute d'une part, et recourbée vers l'arrière (et ainsi donc presque centrée) elle s'avère utile pour mieux contrôler / stabiliser / rattraper rapidement la roue à une main, très efficace sur terrains instables ou cabossés (off road) ... 😉 Peux-tu me dire quels ressorts (éventuellement lien) tu as testé ? Serait-ce les ExaForm sur Ali ? Car ils font 120mm de hauteur compatibles pour les amortisseurs 190 (donc course incomplète) , alors que ceux pour la Extreme sont des 130mm pour un amortisseur de 200... Merci
Ce sont bien les EXA de Ali. Clairement ils ne sont pas parfaits, pas faute d’avoir essaye de trouver une meilleure alternative…En attendant leur nouveau shock (jai essaye d’attendre de le recevoir avant de sortir la vidéo mais c’etait trop long…). Merci!!
Je pourrais rouler tranquille sous la pluie battante avec cette roue ? Ses specs ont l'air parfaites sinon mais c'est la seule chose qui me ferait hésiter. Ça et les 40kg quand tu habites au 3e sans ascenseur 😅
nice contend - But begode should do math. Can you pull 12kw of power out of 2,400ah battery, made of 50e battery? No ... I am curious how much heavier is c40 against c38. What about range ?
@@justinspirational Of course, but I am tired of the promises lol. There will be soon v2 extreme - begode released again V1 beta test. I am curious how v1 owner will feel when they make the next revision, instead helping V1 owners. (been there)
@danoseus eucs are a very fast evolving industry.. you have to accept the fact that improvements come fast and regularly. In fact we should be grateful for that.. there are advantages to getting v1 wheels.. you don't have to wait and get the latest greatest sooner and often at a better price.. but with that you need to accept with that fast evolution v2s will come months later but at least you've had your v1 to enjoy in the meantime.. it's always a choice.. get v1 and enjoy sooner without waiting.. or keep waiting (indefinitely) for the so called 'perfect' version of the wheel..I choose the former..I got a batch 1 ex30 and begode knocked it out the park with batch 1.. in fact I don't see any signs for a v2 it's that good.. glad I didn't wait.. usually v2, v3 are minor upgrades anyway.. I'd rather not keep waiting.. life is too short.. I'm grateful we have so many options and choices.. with any 4p 16" wheel voltage sag is an issue and not good at sustaining top speeds for long..I would have preferred 50s batteries.. but if I need to I can always sell my 50e extreme and buy the 50s version.. not that big a deal.. but I can also be satisfied with what I already have.. which I am and begode are still honoring batch 1 owners like myself by sending us the new spring for the coil shock that takes full advantage of the full 130mm suspension travel which I expect I get soon via my dealer.. in the meantime I'm having the most fun ever on my extreme.. the combination of the highest torque in any wheel ever with absolutely thrilling acceleration with optimum agility from the 16" smaller wheel with great suspension yet feels planted and stable with the 3" rim and low cog makes for the funnest wheel I've ever ridden.. feels like a pocket rocket
@@Ronin_RyderI saw your thread on Reddit like couple seconds after you posted. Then I heard you saying that the suspension travel is 130mm but in reality that's not really true with the coil so that's why I posted.
That was premature.. all first batch owners are getting the redesigned progressive coil shock that takes full advantage of the full 130mm travel or use the air shock in the meantime that take full advantage already. Personally I love the suspension even as it is
@@segundacuenta726 you might have misunderstood, I wasn't excusing myself. I'm not accountable to any anonymous bikelane slow rider when I risk my life on the road.
@@Ronin_Ryder Setting a bad example for others and making other vehicles uncomfortable with reckless driving is not cool. As well as risking yourself in the process. Childish behavior. Good luck
After watching your vid & Chooch's, I'm left with the conclusion that one of yous is LYING. Thru their teeth plus their bunghole! Since you're the one with posted data & lotsa common sense thrown in, I'd conclude you aren't the one lying 😅. Anyhoos I agree with you so much so I'm seriously considering upgrading my T4 to this Extreme with a winter pre order for spring '24, where hopefully, most if not all batch 1 issues will be resolved. Luckily as well, all your dislikes are mostly moot for me. Far's your 'trail wheel as marketing', I'd agree that all wheels are multi use, to a point. EG from personal experience, I wouldnt wanna take my ex30 to take on black diamonds due it weight & bulk. Nor would I wanna ride my T4 as a strictly street wheel as its limitations would render it highly unsatisfactory for me but as a 'dirt' wheel, I thoroughly enjoy as it does 90% of what I want. Not disputing your point but offering another perspective as all. Good review with solid data & very valid conclusions. Glad it wasnt you that was found lying 🤣. JK ofcos
Great review! I'm loving my extreme so far minus the messed up coil shock (which resulted in a bent suspension pin after a single set of stairs), but that is getting replaced really soon. I've had a lot of doubts and issues with Begode wheels in the past, but they have really stepped up their game lately, and I think the Extreme is so good that there is no reason for anyone to buy an S22 anymore (previously my favorite wheel).
Thanks for your feedback! They definitely stepped up!
I m kinda begode fan boy, got the extreme its nice power and Suspension feeling 750 lbs spring...landet hard on a jump and bottomed out, the suspension holder bend and cracked opposit rod bend also. Curoius if and when i will get replacement
I really think the Patton is better off road. I prefer the Mini on street. Kind of want to know how others feel. I have a Commander mini street and a Patton knobby and ride both trails and street.
But since I don’t know how the extreme feels off road, I don’t really know how it is on trails compared to the Patton
@@RogueTravel patton Suspension is propably better and the responsivness also. Begode should have gone for c38 motor and let it just how its in the master, the smaler tyre would result in 62mph freespin and insane Power nice efficiency, i got the feeling the 2400 wh 50e cant keep up with the c40 demand sometimes
How do you like this wheel in comparison to the Patton and Mini?
I don’t like my kickstand on my master cause when I go off roading and have any kind of small crash the kickstand bends and gets tweaked. One crash it even bent into the battery case almost puncturing the plastic casing. I like the new kickstand placement. Thanks for another great video 🤙🏼
Another Solid review video Ronin! 🔥🔥 Honestly after watching this I'm come to a complete standstill when it comes to purchasing my next wheel. There's so many Good choices. Trying to pick one seems has become a impossible task at this point. I'm going to Rock what I got through the Winter and buy a new wheel in March of 2024. Thanks for sharing Ronin. Have a Nice day.
Next year will be the same stuff😉
@@Ronin_Ryder Lol 🤣😂🤣 different year same thing Good point!
Belle review Ronin!! j'ai finalement décider de partir sur la mini et je ne suis pas déçu!! Merci à toi pour tes reviews!!!
🙏🙏⚡️
Thanks for the review, Ronin! I'd be curious to know the reviews on the revised 900/1300lb springs with their CNC shock absorber. Seems like everyones moving to aftermarket linkages by Luc Vo and Vince in the Facebook groups.
whats a realistic range you can get out of this wheel when street riding?
So aftermarket mods on the front and rear bars,,,
and the tire?
I have the T4 AND I JUST CAN'T EXPRESS MYSELF HOW MUCH I LOVE THAT SMALL THING
Where can i find the under grow LEDs? Thanks!!
I know these 16" wheels are touted as "trail wheels", but I just got a Patton and have put about 150 trail miles on it, and for the kind of terrain I ride, it is more unstable than my larger Master. Maybe I will get used to it, but so far, 16" does not handle large rocks and lose sand as well as the 18" wheel. But the range and suspension are good and if one is to believe Chooch's most recent review, the range on the 1900 WH Extreme isn't great.
The range on any wheel with as many cells as the Extreme that can go 45+ MPH isn't great unless your riding it like a grandma. I rode my Extreme and S22 Pro on trails and switched between the two over and over again and I was very surprised that the Extreme outperformed the S22, even with the smaller tire (and I ride trails with large rocks, roots, etc).
Interesting to read things like this, given the great deals going on with Masters right now. Master just seems like a no-brainer if you're remotely budget-conscious.
@@jordanb722 I didn't really care for the Master until I got used to it. Now it's a "fav" and they seem to be well-liked by lots of other ppl. Mine has the smaller pack with a higher discharge rate which accounts for some of the range limitation. The only mod I've done was to replace the linkage and I think the newer versions have improvements in that area. Some might find it a tad top-heavy, but I've grown used to that and the other shortcomings, so yes, it's a great wheel for a low price.
What would be your advice to someone who already ordered it?
Ride it!
@@Ronin_Ryder🤣🤙
I’d like to know if you calibrated the PWM with PWM correction or if you just relied on the assumed accuracy of the PWM.
I always calibrate.
Good so it’s accurate! I’m loving mine with 1350 lb spring in the soft hole. (That’s what she said lol)
@@Ronin_Ryder
How do you calibrate PWM?
What lights do you have beneath the begode?
I got these on aliexpress, id need to find out.
Hi Ronin, do you know if the Extreme rim supports tubeless tire? i.e dose the rim has a bump on the two sides to hold up the tubeless tire beads? thanks
No idea sir!
Very nice review Ronin
Thanks!
Great review! Where did you get the 850lb coil? Do you know what the spring length is? I need something to hold me over until Begode delivers better springs.
Aliexpress
Great review! Nothing on Range/Battery performance? Some of the negative aspects including the few cutouts were focused around battery sag and performance. So just curious with c40 motor if the range and fun factor are affected? Or if that was also over egaderated as well. Thanks again for an informative video!
Same type of range as the Master.
Fun factor is higher with extreme.. the combination of the out this world thrilling torque and acceleration with the optimum agility of the 16" wheel yet still capable of speeds over 50mph is the most fun.. (the greater suspension travel also allows to keep up speed more over uneven
terrain)..there are also 50s battery extremes coming for sustaining those higher speeds for longer as otherwise none of these 4p battery 16" wheels excel at sustaining those higher speeds for long with eg. 50e batteries but rates but what they were inherently designed for. They excel and are primarily designed to excel as high torque agile dirt riders
@@justinspirational I agree
I’d wait for the new batteries
As long as aftermarket pads cost 100$+ the wheels should come with pads, it's already a pain the price for these wheels no need for having to burn 200$ on some pads
So how did the wheel vibrate at 50mph? Was it a speed wobble vibration or a vertical up and down vibration?
I think at 50mph you would need to possibly think about wheel balancing to stop vibration to do with the actual tyre and tube?
Not a speed wobble
so I wonder if it is possible to have your wheel professionally balanced with lead wheel weights to stop the vibration the faster you go? @@Ronin_Ryder
This group ride looks fantastic, I wonder How to meet with you guys? I'm from NY as well riding Commander 1 gen..
Check out kung fu tea st mark place!
@@Ronin_Ryder Ok. Thx
Propre la review ! J'hésite encore avec la mini . Tu penses que l'extrême a plus de pèche de 0 à 20 kmh que la mini ou c'est kif kif ? Merci
Extreme 💯
I probably didn't catch it, but was this 40t or 50e?
50e. I should have precised it.
Thanks for the review. Im an inch away from putting a deposit on the v14. For $3300 i might need to just get a big wheel
Why are they all coming with knobby tires? Are street tires better on 16-inch wheels for street riding?
I didn’t have issues with that knobby tire.
Well for street riding... What about the new Master V4? Isn't that one better? It is for sure much cheaper :-). And original Master V1 has very comfy suspension :-).
I dont like the stock tire on the Master, and the pedals are high. The Original suspension of the master was pure 🗑️. I can say because i had one😂.
@@Ronin_Ryder I have met a rider with Master V4 on a group ride. I compared my V12HT with his Master. The pedal height was the same even with no weight on the Master (which put it lower of course) :D. He was really susprised but V12 on the highest settings is high as crazy. So I think that pedal height of the Master is not problem at all for me :). Also V4 suspension and new damper are improved and better than the V1 :)...
shots fired at chooch hahaha nice video!!!!
Not targeting anyone. The same pattern happens regularly 😄.
Would you rather get this or the V14 ?
I never tried the V14 so i can’t advise.
I certainly wouldn’t shell out the cash before the V14 and Extreme are better vetted… the Patton seems widely loved but I’m waiting for a 20” V14.
Super review comme d'habitude 👍 ! Je partage sur le forum français.
Pour la poignée c'est vrai qu'elle cache un peu l'écran, mais pour moi ce n'est pas une erreur de conception de Begode :elle protège bien l'écran en cas de chute d'une part, et recourbée vers l'arrière (et ainsi donc presque centrée) elle s'avère utile pour mieux contrôler / stabiliser / rattraper rapidement la roue à une main, très efficace sur terrains instables ou cabossés (off road) ... 😉
Peux-tu me dire quels ressorts (éventuellement lien) tu as testé ? Serait-ce les ExaForm sur Ali ? Car ils font 120mm de hauteur compatibles pour les amortisseurs 190 (donc course incomplète) , alors que ceux pour la Extreme sont des 130mm pour un amortisseur de 200... Merci
Ce sont bien les EXA de Ali. Clairement ils ne sont pas parfaits, pas faute d’avoir essaye de trouver une meilleure alternative…En attendant leur nouveau shock (jai essaye d’attendre de le recevoir avant de sortir la vidéo mais c’etait trop long…). Merci!!
I'm just wondering if it really is the torquiest wheel. How's the acceleration, and the uphill abilities?
I talked about the acceleration in my video.
Je pourrais rouler tranquille sous la pluie battante avec cette roue ? Ses specs ont l'air parfaites sinon mais c'est la seule chose qui me ferait hésiter. Ça et les 40kg quand tu habites au 3e sans ascenseur 😅
pareil mais je pense que je vais quand meme me lancer sur cette roue.
Good review 👍
nice contend - But begode should do math. Can you pull 12kw of power out of 2,400ah battery, made of 50e battery? No ... I am curious how much heavier is c40 against c38. What about range ?
50s extremes coming soon
@@justinspirational Of course, but I am tired of the promises lol. There will be soon v2 extreme - begode released again V1 beta test. I am curious how v1 owner will feel when they make the next revision, instead helping V1 owners. (been there)
@danoseus eucs are a very fast evolving industry.. you have to accept the fact that improvements come fast and regularly. In fact we should be grateful for that.. there are advantages to
getting v1 wheels.. you don't have to wait and get the latest greatest sooner and often at a better price.. but with that you need to accept with that fast evolution v2s will come months later but at least you've had your v1 to enjoy in the meantime.. it's always a choice.. get v1 and enjoy sooner without waiting.. or keep waiting (indefinitely) for the so called 'perfect' version of the wheel..I choose the former..I got a batch 1 ex30 and begode knocked it out the park with batch 1.. in fact I don't see any signs for a v2 it's that good.. glad I didn't wait.. usually v2, v3 are minor upgrades anyway.. I'd rather not keep waiting.. life is too short.. I'm grateful we have so many options and choices.. with any 4p 16" wheel voltage sag is an issue and not good at sustaining top speeds for long..I would have preferred 50s batteries.. but if I need to I can always sell my 50e extreme and buy the 50s version.. not that big a deal.. but I can also be satisfied with what I already have.. which I am and begode are still honoring batch 1 owners like myself by sending us the new spring for the coil shock that takes full advantage of the full 130mm suspension travel which I expect I get soon via my dealer.. in the meantime I'm having the most fun ever on my extreme.. the combination of the highest torque in any wheel ever with absolutely thrilling acceleration with optimum agility from the 16" smaller wheel with great suspension yet feels planted and stable with the 3" rim and low cog makes for the funnest wheel I've ever ridden.. feels like a pocket rocket
it is the c40 like ex30 is not 3000w but 2500w
3500w with extreme..4000w with ex30
I guess most EUC customers live in the city.
My next wheel must have much more torque.
What are your shoes in this video? Are they your typical riding shoe? Looking for new suggestions:)
I don’t recommend them they wear out fast.
seems you forgot your ski pole somewhere but still think you are out skiiing..
Street ski😉
Honestly the suspension is kind of bad. I sold my extreme after one day.
Amazing that you posted this in a shorter time than the length of the video😂
@@Ronin_RyderI saw your thread on Reddit like couple seconds after you posted. Then I heard you saying that the suspension travel is 130mm but in reality that's not really true with the coil so that's why I posted.
That was premature.. all first batch owners are getting the redesigned progressive coil shock that takes full advantage of the full 130mm travel or use the air shock in the meantime that take full advantage already. Personally I love the suspension even as it is
@@justinspirational yes but I can always just buy a newer batch at a cheaper price down the line so
its actually a 3500w c-40 motor and the ex-30 is a 4ooow c-40... just saying.
Nice video
Thanks for saying!
@@Ronin_Ryder tHANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEOS :)
Just be straightforward by the company. Waterproof or Not. Because its hard cash thats being spent. Lose the hustle. Keep it real.
Disappointed in your reckless driving, getting narrowly between cars and switching lanes as seen in 10:30 to 10:45...
Come ride here, then you will understand. Until then you can't judge. Thanks
@@Ronin_Ryder Sorry, no excuses.
@@segundacuenta726 you might have misunderstood, I wasn't excusing myself. I'm not accountable to any anonymous bikelane slow rider when I risk my life on the road.
@@Ronin_Ryder Setting a bad example for others and making other vehicles uncomfortable with reckless driving is not cool. As well as risking yourself in the process. Childish behavior. Good luck
Actually your reaction proves my point in the video which was that the Extreme is an excellent traffic riding wheel. Thank you and good luck as well !
After watching your vid & Chooch's, I'm left with the conclusion that one of yous is LYING. Thru their teeth plus their bunghole! Since you're the one with posted data & lotsa common sense thrown in, I'd conclude you aren't the one lying 😅. Anyhoos I agree with you so much so I'm seriously considering upgrading my T4 to this Extreme with a winter pre order for spring '24, where hopefully, most if not all batch 1 issues will be resolved. Luckily as well, all your dislikes are mostly moot for me. Far's your 'trail wheel as marketing', I'd agree that all wheels are multi use, to a point. EG from personal experience, I wouldnt wanna take my ex30 to take on black diamonds due it weight & bulk. Nor would I wanna ride my T4 as a strictly street wheel as its limitations would render it highly unsatisfactory for me but as a 'dirt' wheel, I thoroughly enjoy as it does 90% of what I want. Not disputing your point but offering another perspective as all. Good review with solid data & very valid conclusions. Glad it wasnt you that was found lying 🤣. JK ofcos
Thanks for your feedback!!
#true2gnome :)
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Let's just stop this never ending new wheel crap. Start RElooking at wheels & there issues.
Agreed there are way too many. We just need better versions of what is there.