Oranges and Lemons: The earliest known version - performed by Catherine King

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  • A performance of the earliest known version of the first verse of the popular song ‘Oranges and Lemons’.
    The music is performed by Catherine King.
    This is an extract from the full-length lecture by Professor Christopher Page, “Medieval Music: The Lands of the Bell Tower”: www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and...
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  • @andrewrichter2231
    @andrewrichter2231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    So I take it everyone who reads 1984 goes here to see exactly how the rhyme goes. It was driving me nuts only having the lyrics with no melody.

  • @seymournerds342
    @seymournerds342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    1984 anyone?

  • @morbidravenpages9695
    @morbidravenpages9695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    "We're all watching Winston, tell us what will defeat the party" - O'brien 1984

  • @IsraelLuisGeerRivera-ff4cg
    @IsraelLuisGeerRivera-ff4cg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Here because of 1984

  • @funsp
    @funsp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Two Sticks and Apple,
    Ring ye Bells at Whitechapple,
    Old Father Bald Pate,
    Ring ye Bells Aldgate,
    Maids in White Aprons,
    Ring ye Bells a St. Catherines,
    Oranges and Lemons,
    Ring ye bells at St. Clements,
    When will you pay me,
    Ring ye Bells at ye Old Bailey,
    When I am Rich,
    Ring ye Bells at Fleetditch,
    When will that be,
    Ring ye Bells at Stepney,
    When I am Old,
    Ring ye Bells at Pauls.

    • @papercup2517
      @papercup2517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for that Fernando! There were some words there I didn't quite catch.
      It's a little different from the scarier version we sang when we played the O&L game at children's parties in the 1950s. It was a scary game!

  • @TheUH1Huey
    @TheUH1Huey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I’ve seen this song twice now- from Private Peaceful & the 1984! Both of which are classics

  • @endermite6617
    @endermite6617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Fun fact: the song oranges and lemons was first written in 1744 and sung by Tommy Thumb as a nursery rhyme was a way of remembering the topography of London by a widely illiterate population. People would have associated the bells and the churches with what happened in that part of town. Eventually it became a rhyme and there is evidence of it being a dance in 1655.

    • @jessemossberg8108
      @jessemossberg8108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another fun fact: many of the bells mentioned were cast at the Whitechapel Bell Foundry (near the Aldgate East tube station), which also cast the famous American Liberty Bell.

  • @eva-rose5115
    @eva-rose5115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Am I the only one brought here by the book Private Peaceful

  • @christinecarlson5351
    @christinecarlson5351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm here after reading Book 1; Chapter 8 of George Orwell's 1984.

  • @JohnnyLCob
    @JohnnyLCob 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    *The Frankenstein Chronicles*

  • @isimsiztm2683
    @isimsiztm2683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    She:sings the song
    Pennywise:am i a joke to you?

    • @dragoneater2008_
      @dragoneater2008_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      h e r e c o m e s a c h o p p e r t o c h o p o f f y o u r h e a d

  • @thechocolatier2005
    @thechocolatier2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    does anyone else see the red balloon?

    • @Jrdn357
      @Jrdn357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When?

    • @TheBoogieMan888
      @TheBoogieMan888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me looking around like: 👁👄👁

    • @Jehejwjajshs
      @Jehejwjajshs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We all float down here

    • @archiedobson6075
      @archiedobson6075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jehejwjajshs yes we doo hahahha

    • @KateluvsSunandMoon
      @KateluvsSunandMoon หลายเดือนก่อน

      We all float down here

  • @ozunsensoy4491
    @ozunsensoy4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I came here by the book 1984 by George Orwell✨

  • @headshot6959
    @headshot6959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Beautiful voice.

  • @urdessstardancer9598
    @urdessstardancer9598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Huh, so in this earlier version there were less bells included and no mention of the candle or chopper - perhaps it was written before the other belltowers were put up and had become associated with executions?

    • @claireeyles7560
      @claireeyles7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All of the churches mentioned existed at the time of the song's earliest printing, which was 1744. I believe the idea that the song has anything to do with executions comes from the addition of the last candle and chopper lines, but the earliest known version that includes that comes from 1840. The added lines to the song do form part of a children's singing game, that was popular in places like England and Australia even up until the modern day in some areas. It is possible that the lines were made up by children themselves as part of the game, and that they then ended up becoming synonymous with the song - although that is mere conjecture. It does say something to the enduring appeal of the song and the game associated with it, that over a hundred years after it began to be played it still remained one of the most popular children's singing games in the playground of my primary school (in the 1970s).

    • @Sun.powder
      @Sun.powder หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally forgotten that we sang that at school playtime in the 70s .

  • @MrSpudguncat
    @MrSpudguncat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ring every church bell in the land for a full day, the following day that land would be a better place. Not because they've stopped but because they rang.

  • @KaracaEmre
    @KaracaEmre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    1984🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @kaboomyes9290
      @kaboomyes9290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hadi 1 yıl sonra 1 kere daha dinle şu şarkıyı

    • @KaracaEmre
      @KaracaEmre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kaboomyes9290 kdsfkjsdjkfs teşekkür ederim hatırlamış oldum

  • @ollywood8030
    @ollywood8030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm Indian and as I child I remember singing what I suppose is the Indian version of this rhyme.. I find it quite interesting, I suppose the it came to India when it was colonised by Britain, perhaps vice versa
    For anyone that's Indian and is wondering what rhyme I'm talking about, remember the "lal kile mein kya hua kya hua" rhyme?

    • @Lilzsnr
      @Lilzsnr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Id love to hear it and see a translation.

  • @alegendamongmen
    @alegendamongmen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anyone here because it’s actually one of the most famous and loviest English nursery rhymes from childhood?

  • @pastelsparadox
    @pastelsparadox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    You'll float too 🎈

    • @ignatiuspratomo3401
      @ignatiuspratomo3401 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pastels Paradox no chop chop o well, how about let pennywise and the balloon float?

    • @stacey1747
      @stacey1747 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all float

  • @tamyx2871
    @tamyx2871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Here because of Michael Morpurgo's Private Peaceful

    • @cookiecandle2964
      @cookiecandle2964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tamy X smae

    • @jjsis2142
      @jjsis2142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So am I, still reading the book

  • @lovelyally9876
    @lovelyally9876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
    🎈🎈🎈🎈
    🎈🎈🎈
    🎈🎈
    🎈

  • @jessemossberg8108
    @jessemossberg8108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No 1984 here- as a little boy, my mom 🥰 used to sing me this song at bedtime, and I grew up in Illinois!
    The mark of a true Londoner: born within the sound of the Bow bells.

    • @Sun.powder
      @Sun.powder หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very sweet story.❤

  • @warseeker8122
    @warseeker8122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Yo, who's here because of Private peaceful?

    • @googleuser4090
      @googleuser4090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My bruda let me guess your school made uou

    • @crystal_avian
      @crystal_avian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, just finished a review of it for school

  • @michaelmay5120
    @michaelmay5120 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clash City Rockers and William Castle's version of The Old Dark House brought me here. Thank you so much Catherine King! Long live England!

  • @quackeducc
    @quackeducc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastaisa.

  • @minecraftworldcharliefroms6515
    @minecraftworldcharliefroms6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful 😍

  • @AnnoraEksteen
    @AnnoraEksteen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful

  • @langdalepaul
    @langdalepaul ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Old enough to have sung this, and played the game, in the school playground.
    Here comes the candle to light you to bed
    Here comes the chopper to chop off your head
    Chip chop, chip chop
    The last man’s dead!

  • @lifemanager6865
    @lifemanager6865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing

  • @summer6071
    @summer6071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I came for the best part in the song and it’s not here 👌 ok

  • @fewmetsiam4u
    @fewmetsiam4u 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    catherine's 'got pipes'. thank goodness for people like her.

  • @thishouseofglass
    @thishouseofglass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This song slaps

  • @victoriapohlman7993
    @victoriapohlman7993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lovely antique song

  • @jaedo6180
    @jaedo6180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Here because of the Frankenstein Chronicles while looking for something else.

  • @deborahelliott3376
    @deborahelliott3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Compassion the foundations of society with a conscience

  • @cathuang6212
    @cathuang6212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ty george orwell

  • @angr3819
    @angr3819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @majiwarusentosen
    @majiwarusentosen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played this game in like the 2 or 3rd grade and it was so fun
    I think we did this version and not the ..semi-modern one

  • @terrortower666
    @terrortower666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It, 1984, The Wicker Man.

  • @kassandravenancio6724
    @kassandravenancio6724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Je comprends rien mais je suis la parce que George Orwell en parle dans son live 1984

    • @amnay7379
      @amnay7379 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Haha

  • @shadowdemon3420
    @shadowdemon3420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ik this song from IT

  • @orglancs
    @orglancs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've not even heard of Private Peaceful, but I can't remember not knowing this nursery rhyme. I must have absorbed it before I could even talk, I guess. Don't children learn nursery rhymes any more?

    • @janicethomas7217
      @janicethomas7217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no nursery rhymes are not politically correct at least here in the USA. I taught mother goose nursery rhymes to my middle school students as part of our poetry unit.

  • @ocastillo755
    @ocastillo755 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m here because of pennywise the dancing clown. Pennywise Is heavily associated with the song oranges and lemons. Which is a song about old London where Mary popping resides. Both return every 20 years. 😊

  • @dreamfield1399
    @dreamfield1399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hhhhh all respect or the guy who held his cough till she finished lol

  • @peytonk5986
    @peytonk5986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i finally know what those creepy pennywise kids are singing lol. You’ll Float too🎈

  • @terrenceprinceamosa2908
    @terrenceprinceamosa2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm hear because of 1984 :3

  • @newsmonger77
    @newsmonger77 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm old, the version I knew was this: You owe me three farthings said the bells of St Martens, when will you pay me, said the bells of old Bailey. When I grow rich, said the bells at Shorditch, when will that be, said the bells of Stepney, I do not know said the great bell at Bow.

  • @renc7305
    @renc7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "WHERE ARE YOU ALICE?!"

  • @ryx5380
    @ryx5380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grew up on this nursery rhyme...but watching 1984 🤯🤯🥺

  • @CadenKoehl
    @CadenKoehl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🎈Would anyone like a balloon?🎈 It floats. 🎈We all float here.🎈 You'll float too.🎈

  • @jamesmckean3221
    @jamesmckean3221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I am old..

  • @PonzWasTaken
    @PonzWasTaken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    you found us Patrick...

  • @eugenemurray2940
    @eugenemurray2940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At Aldgate..
    We will meet...
    And never
    Cross
    Traitors
    River
    To street..

  • @kookycoconut
    @kookycoconut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm scared

    • @richardcallihan9746
      @richardcallihan9746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh; you will be, you will be, when the choppers come

  • @gabrielcuzenic7399
    @gabrielcuzenic7399 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Geeeeeooooorgiiiiiiie ~

  • @catietaylor7503
    @catietaylor7503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We used to sing this in kindergarten and go under an arch this that was like a guillotine I’m very scared

  • @keirahaydon2804
    @keirahaydon2804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @mati301fm
    @mati301fm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    from the age of doublethink - greetings!

  • @pax3182
    @pax3182 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was brought here by the books Private Peaceful and 1984

  • @flippaclipanimations1933
    @flippaclipanimations1933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im coming from IT

  • @babyyodaavenger9019
    @babyyodaavenger9019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Private peaceful - r.i.p Charlie one of the bravest soilders ever 💔😰

  • @scottbuckley3208
    @scottbuckley3208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Who came here after watching it 🎈

  • @keskino9352
    @keskino9352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    06.06.22

  • @jeffbigelow444
    @jeffbigelow444 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came here looking for answer to Tartaria and pre rest historical factors.

  • @3mepleasenow
    @3mepleasenow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never been there

  • @TadawIyang
    @TadawIyang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1984 brought me here

  • @niamhharris9462
    @niamhharris9462 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    right QUESTION when is this in *it* because i recognise nothing

    • @thespinelizard4444
      @thespinelizard4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is in the Soundtrack of the movie... In the movie you can hear it when pennywise opens the door of the fridge, and when he transforms into the Lady of the painting.
      PD: Sorry for my bad english.

  • @CarlosEduardo0105
    @CarlosEduardo0105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't you want a balloon? 🎈🎈🎈

  • @GingerBun
    @GingerBun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she wore orange to match the song

  • @alexbarker6864
    @alexbarker6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought it was Shoreditch not fleet ditch?

  • @somerage7110
    @somerage7110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shoutout winston

  • @sjohnson1216
    @sjohnson1216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun.

  • @luv5560
    @luv5560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those bells we're execution bells. Is that for kids ?

  • @iridescentvids
    @iridescentvids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2+2=4

  • @mizumi2550
    @mizumi2550 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1984といえばこの曲

  • @user-eo6yq8yf9j
    @user-eo6yq8yf9j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the theme song for the IT movie

  • @mariafernandacalderon1133
    @mariafernandacalderon1133 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here by 1984

  • @pjabrony8280
    @pjabrony8280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one here, not from 1984 or IT or Private Peaceful, but from Ellen Raskin's "The Tattooed Potato"?

  • @KurablessWutero-Manjo
    @KurablessWutero-Manjo ปีที่แล้ว

    The earliest known version contains the lyric "You owe me five fartings".

  • @conorsweeney9248
    @conorsweeney9248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pov: youre here from private peaceful

  • @manwithnoplan5496
    @manwithnoplan5496 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s literally 1984!

  • @aricm5973
    @aricm5973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know this song from 1984, not *It* lmao

  • @sugarbmb6446
    @sugarbmb6446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big joe brought me here (private peaceful)

  • @scathbeorh7073
    @scathbeorh7073 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    she forgot the head chopping part

    • @Theglitcher3vids
      @Theglitcher3vids 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The earliest known version didn't have that.

    • @shane8719
      @shane8719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Theglitcher3vids Sadly

  • @pacifedtwinangl..3594
    @pacifedtwinangl..3594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember me when iam dead dead dead..........

  • @RobertOrgRobert
    @RobertOrgRobert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lovely voice but, surly the book wasn’t necessary

    • @fumbleknit719
      @fumbleknit719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is more than one version of the song.

  • @Dudos-pn2vs
    @Dudos-pn2vs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We all float down here 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈

  • @Charles-mc7ei
    @Charles-mc7ei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am i the only one that comes from White day?

  • @corndawg15
    @corndawg15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Girly

  • @twistedcoasters1533
    @twistedcoasters1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    float

  • @laurenmontera9516
    @laurenmontera9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little princess brought me here.

  • @westyinzer4607
    @westyinzer4607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you miss me Ritchie?

    • @archiedobson6075
      @archiedobson6075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I missed you no one wants to play with the clown anyone

  • @louis-philippegirard7608
    @louis-philippegirard7608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    We're all here because of IT or 1984

    • @bibvx
      @bibvx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Frankenstein Chronicles

    • @expressodepresso7805
      @expressodepresso7805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope

    • @urdessstardancer9598
      @urdessstardancer9598 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, we used to sing this at school

    • @papercup2517
      @papercup2517 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We used to sing it at children's parties, while playing the game that went with it.

    • @archiedobson6075
      @archiedobson6075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm here because
      IT chapter one
      IT chapter two

  • @ChaoticMushy
    @ChaoticMushy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think people knew this song mainly from The Wiggles

    • @urdessstardancer9598
      @urdessstardancer9598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Wiggles sang this song? Did their version have the head chopper bit? (a bit hard to see that included)

    • @ChaoticMushy
      @ChaoticMushy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@urdessstardancer9598 the Wiggles sung it years ago but I don't think it involved head chopping...

    • @specialunit0428
      @specialunit0428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I miss them :(

    • @archiedobson6075
      @archiedobson6075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChaoticMushy I heard it from IT chapter 1 and IT chapter 2

  • @lorkexz7917
    @lorkexz7917 ปีที่แล้ว

    *laughs in Pennywise*

  • @maromancem306
    @maromancem306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little did they know, it was once an execution song sang by children.

  • @deborahelliott3376
    @deborahelliott3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let them eat cake

  • @coryelliott7925
    @coryelliott7925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol IT movie anyone

  • @kookycoconut
    @kookycoconut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎈🎈 🎈