IMO, the mod would be much more interesting if, > It had custom events and custom focus trees > Custom models (for US militia) > An actual modicum of flavour That's the biggest issue - outside of being a perpetual cycle of naval invasions, the mod has no flavour at all.
I think the purpose of the mod is to be a simple quick "scenario" start akin to the vanilla 1936 start date and 1939 start date for people who wants a quick action (reason why we have a 1939 start date) and to play a high castle scenario I don't think the mod wants to be seen as an "actual" mod with new focuses, decisions and models
There's a submod for it called Defying the Axis (or something to that effect) that adds a pretty significant focus tree to the US and at least some events.
And maybe an event/focus or by default, have South America (except Argentina and Chile) be part of the Allies. To and some flavour, make Argentina and Chile be part of Axis.
Good sir, the number of times you say, "please don't yell at me", "I know it's suboptimal, but i don't care", "it's a game, please let me have fun", "I know it's not the best way", "I know it's not the best doctrine by the numbers, but i like it", etc... has grown to an almost comical frequency. If it were a drinking game, we'd be dead of alcohol poisoning before the end of the video. I know I can't speak for everyone, but i like the way you play, and the content you make. Constantly hearing how pissed viewers are at you for trivial things is really starting to hurt my own enjoyment and seems to be hurting your enjoyment as well. Haters gonna hate good sir; you don't need to devote time to asking them not to hate. I truly love your work!
Its actually incredibly frustrating that he hasnt learned the lesson all the other streamers and youtubers have: to just ignore and not give attention to those people.
@@erikhanseisenheberI occasionally see random upset in the comments, but not overwhelming, but I don't have my career online so I'm probably not as sensitive. Keep them trolls skinny! Let them eat elsewhere! ;-)
there are so few of them on the stream that i rarely see them, I think that's mainly just bittersteel being very hard on himself. Usually if someone is being a goober, he'll say them by name.
@@diegolopesme iirc from the newspapers on the wall, it was like, germany was garrisoning manchukuo alongside the kwantung army, and also tsingtao (which it essentially said "give me this hirohito, or i will glass your nation") had caused friction. after the italian betrayal when germany overnight invaded with no warning, japan was getting disconcerted after the tsingtao cession, and without warning germany, in the early 50s, maybe late 49, landed south of kyoto after order 66ing the kwantung army. iirc they made HEAVY use of cyberhounds and essentially, by the end, had erased the japanese as even a population and had begun settling the habitable parts of japan. so germany had zero friends, it indiscriminately demanded absolutely obiesance.
@@diegolopesme iirc by 1960 germany had rebuilt and renamed tokyo and was dealing with, ironically, ainu resistance. go figure the japanese equivalent of ewoks would be the only true foe.
This mod is way too artificially difficult. It wants to be an endsieg without the logic of endsieg. On top of that they didn't even update production. America is building its 1936 shit
It's definitely clear that it was quickly made, without considering much, just deleting some of the navy and giving enemies ships, and landing points It's definitely artificially difficult
Your videos are very entertaining I have been watching them for around 2 years as I bought hoi4 on December 22 2022, I just wanted to thank you for your guides and your videos, your videos take me out of life's stresses and let me relax, again I just want to say thank you keep up the work
Not related to this video (which was also great btw) but just wanted to say thanks as last night I finally managed to do the Bearer of Artillery achievement and it was due to learning so much from watching you play and especially watching you save disasters haha! Almost had one in my final push when it looked to be going well and then the Axis somehow counter attacked late, was forced to set up the classic Bittersteel stabilising fallback line along a river and some mountains before being able to finally win it and get the achievement - probably would have just given up or restarted the attempt prior to watching your videos over the years! Top man :)
US Army: Struggling, no equipment, getting thrown at enemy tanks like the Chinese did the Japs US Air Force: Also outnumbered, getting slaughtered US Navy: Outnumbered, outgunned, but never outmaneuvered *Boss music begins*
I really love your videos and your content in general, but man, you gotta stop worrying about haters in the comments. It brings the entire vibe of the videos down when you spend so much time saying "I know it's not optimal, I know this isn't the best way..." etc. Just play how you play. You get out of almost every disaster save ever, you succeed against the most insane mods, just do what you do and enjoy it and let us enjoy you doing it! Fuck the haters. Don't waste time addressing them. Anyone who tries to play a game like HoI4 in the "most optimal" way never leaves their basement anyhow. Just play the game, make the content, and let us enjoy your enjoyment of it.
I remember when I saw the mod creator post on reddit about the mod. My biggest problem was how he essentially vaporized the navy but gave the German, Italian, and Japanese navy needless buffs. Like yeah sure you can still include a pearl harbor deficit but the entireeeee rest of the San Diego and Norfolk fleets would still exist. I just told him he was fucking stupid to obliterate the navy while buffing the rest of the axis navies for zero gain. (Like serious the NCs or Dakotas weren’t even at least in the production que)
I've been playing the mod after seeing your struggle on stream. Its imo ideal for a scenario to build up without alot of pressure to defend the borders because pushing them out of boston and california seems really easy and holding novia scotia isn't that difficult. Florida was so annoying that i deleted the troops there via console. After that it was actually fun. Island hopping in the carribean and dunking on navies is my favourite way to play hoi
As a fellow carrier naval enjoyer, try the Kaiserriech naval rework mod, makes the ai design realistic ships and task forces that depending on the settings can make naval fun
American citizens are not free, and America is more like a republic. If you can't see anything past your false opinions, then you really are an American
So in this mod, the Axis killed off the Commonwealth, France and the USSR, stole their navies, sunk the US fleet and at no point did the US spool up production prior to being invaded?
This mod really missed out on having a Star Trek Enterprise easter egg. Specifically referencing the 2 part episodes where The Enterprise get sent back in time to WW2 to stop time travelling aliens from helping the Germans from conquering the US.
I like that the mod seems to not even pretend this is mildly realistic and just says "Here is a fun scenario to play!" We don't need a "Somehow, Palpatine returned" fanfic at the start to fight an interesting scenario.
Decimation is something entirely different, not killing enemy troops or navies! It was a punishment in roman armies where a tenth (deci in latin) of a group of soldiers or legion were beaten to death by their comrades. This word is so often misused...
Through a process of semantic change starting in the 17th century, the word evolved to refer to any extreme reduction in the number of a population or force, or an overall sense of destruction and ruin, not strictly in the punitive sense or to a reduction by one-tenth.
37:49 1 time i played (Germans, roleplay) with mode where i had Basically infinite resources and i also before i unpaused game i instant build everything from tech-tree & focus tree using command, i had like 100k Jet Fighters on UKs sky in 1 point. I was like roleplaying that German had accuired somekind of future scifi tech what allowed them to build everything instantly.
They probably should. Right next to the naval invasion option there's an option to do it from a "floating harbor", which sounds like what you're describing. The big question is, how do you even get floating harbors
@@erikhanseisenheber You research naval invasion tech 2 and the game gives the production for the harbours. Its only really useful if youre planning to do any invasions that have more size than Operation Overlord or 2x24 divisions (any more units will take ridiculous amounts of time to prepare) because of the supply.
I'm just putting a question out there: Why are you only able to put like 5 dockyards on ships? Why isn't it like infantry equipment where you can put a lot on it.
One must wonder how the fuck the Japanese have crossed the Pacific and also landed in LA and San Fran. Like actually how. It wasn't in the realm of possibility in '42.
Wait how on Earth did the Italy magane to take the two biggest cities in Floirda? One of them being the 3rd largest US milltary strongpints since WW1 and despite being of massive strtgic instrest has never been attacked before by anyone included all but very few hurricanes! The other being mami which Flioirda bearly has any control of which even fought the rest of Floirda inm the civil war making Floirda the only state I believe to fight a two front war ever which we didn't even lose milltray mind one despite a massvie blockade... We just gave up because the CSA whent insanwe and killed y ancestor for checking up on his sick family which had every major general in a massive debate... Like Italy the nation who only strength in the world wars was choosing the winning side in the end... But Floirda in both world wars majorly controboted to victory in alot of ways when again Italy didn't... Like I really don't get that decstion at all given the fact they could easly had given Italy some of easter central florixda which didn't have much going on back then.... But the two places that are insanely good at war? Give me a break...
Funny how BitterSteel said on stream that he will never play this mod ever again and well here we are again
He's a Masochist, what did you expect? The temptation of suffering through the pain is euphoric for him
It's from the twitch stream, not a new video
@@potato88872 it isnt, in the stream he didnt stopped after loosing south america, and iirc he didnt loose a carrier
只是編輯後，再次撥放
@@蔡林翰-v2m陳生又係你呀
For anybody who wants to know, the music he uses is mostly found on the album "Dust it off" by Golden Age Radio, it's on spotify
thank you so much bro
@@ToasteddPancakes No problem!
I did not know that, thank you!
You're a life saver!
I've been curious about that for a while. Expected to see it in the descriptions but nada.
"People of Miami, Florida, I shall return" - Gen. Mcarthur, 1942
General, I got a settlement that needs your help. here I'll mark it on your map....... bring the ladies
@@iwantcrawfish6110 fallout 4 refrence right ?
IMO, the mod would be much more interesting if,
> It had custom events and custom focus trees
> Custom models (for US militia)
> An actual modicum of flavour
That's the biggest issue - outside of being a perpetual cycle of naval invasions, the mod has no flavour at all.
Cool Scenario right?
I think the purpose of the mod is to be a simple quick "scenario" start akin to the vanilla 1936 start date and 1939 start date for people who wants a quick action (reason why we have a 1939 start date) and to play a high castle scenario
I don't think the mod wants to be seen as an "actual" mod with new focuses, decisions and models
There's a submod for it called Defying the Axis (or something to that effect) that adds a pretty significant focus tree to the US and at least some events.
And maybe an event/focus or by default, have South America (except Argentina and Chile) be part of the Allies. To and some flavour, make Argentina and Chile be part of Axis.
There needs to be events to restore allied governments like the British and the French. Would make the Europe push less of a slog.
Good sir, the number of times you say, "please don't yell at me", "I know it's suboptimal, but i don't care", "it's a game, please let me have fun", "I know it's not the best way", "I know it's not the best doctrine by the numbers, but i like it", etc... has grown to an almost comical frequency. If it were a drinking game, we'd be dead of alcohol poisoning before the end of the video. I know I can't speak for everyone, but i like the way you play, and the content you make. Constantly hearing how pissed viewers are at you for trivial things is really starting to hurt my own enjoyment and seems to be hurting your enjoyment as well. Haters gonna hate good sir; you don't need to devote time to asking them not to hate. I truly love your work!
To be very honest, do these haters even exist? I rarely see them
Its actually incredibly frustrating that he hasnt learned the lesson all the other streamers and youtubers have: to just ignore and not give attention to those people.
@@erikhanseisenheberI occasionally see random upset in the comments, but not overwhelming, but I don't have my career online so I'm probably not as sensitive. Keep them trolls skinny! Let them eat elsewhere! ;-)
there are so few of them on the stream that i rarely see them, I think that's mainly just bittersteel being very hard on himself. Usually if someone is being a goober, he'll say them by name.
well said
Bro just won Wolfenstein
well at wolfenstein the invasion was on very late 1948 and also japan was invaded by germany
@@diegolopesme iirc from the newspapers on the wall, it was like, germany was garrisoning manchukuo alongside the kwantung army, and also tsingtao (which it essentially said "give me this hirohito, or i will glass your nation") had caused friction.
after the italian betrayal when germany overnight invaded with no warning, japan was getting disconcerted after the tsingtao cession, and without warning germany, in the early 50s, maybe late 49, landed south of kyoto after order 66ing the kwantung army.
iirc they made HEAVY use of cyberhounds and essentially, by the end, had erased the japanese as even a population and had begun settling the habitable parts of japan.
so germany had zero friends, it indiscriminately demanded absolutely obiesance.
@@diegolopesme iirc by 1960 germany had rebuilt and renamed tokyo and was dealing with, ironically, ainu resistance.
go figure the japanese equivalent of ewoks would be the only true foe.
This mod is way too artificially difficult.
It wants to be an endsieg without the logic of endsieg.
On top of that they didn't even update production. America is building its 1936 shit
It's definitely clear that it was quickly made, without considering much, just deleting some of the navy and giving enemies ships, and landing points
It's definitely artificially difficult
I was going to say its too easy. I think Mexico should be on the side of the axis to reclaim their old territories. :)
@@anthonyh3898 yeah no. It's absurd enough that Free France is nowhere to be seen and the Commonwealth has entirely collapsed.
@@anthonyh3898that’s retarded
@@lolloblue9646 he just used toolbox i bet
My marine was lost in the disastor of Dumfries. Pitbull is now dead in a random scottish city.
o7
Bittersteel literally took the quote "No Pain, No Gain" too literally. Man's a total Masochist at this point.
oh i remember this stream, glad it got turned into a video
Your videos are very entertaining I have been watching them for around 2 years as I bought hoi4 on December 22 2022, I just wanted to thank you for your guides and your videos, your videos take me out of life's stresses and let me relax, again I just want to say thank you keep up the work
10:23 Clearly you just need to train some gators to act as mules. Perfect way to deal with difficult supply. Obviously there's no other easy way.
Day 1 of asking Bittersteel to play one of the most insane and cursed Hoi4 mods (The Fire Rises)
signed.
SIGNED. Do the socialist paths... Catgirl brigade!!!
Facts
Bittersteel definetly got a new edditor
noticed that too, it's not too much, but it'll take a bit to get used to it.
Not related to this video (which was also great btw) but just wanted to say thanks as last night I finally managed to do the Bearer of Artillery achievement and it was due to learning so much from watching you play and especially watching you save disasters haha! Almost had one in my final push when it looked to be going well and then the Axis somehow counter attacked late, was forced to set up the classic Bittersteel stabilising fallback line along a river and some mountains before being able to finally win it and get the achievement - probably would have just given up or restarted the attempt prior to watching your videos over the years! Top man :)
Map looks like "Man in the High Castle: Freedom Edition"
That England invasion force mjst have gone deaf from the constant Stuka sirens
If I had a dollar everytime he said "Bhaston" I'd have atleast 1 dollar
Not that difficult, just tedious
The hardest thing is definitely defending against the beginning landings
US Army:
Struggling, no equipment, getting thrown at enemy tanks like the Chinese did the Japs
US Air Force:
Also outnumbered, getting slaughtered
US Navy:
Outnumbered, outgunned, but never outmaneuvered *Boss music begins*
I really love your videos and your content in general, but man, you gotta stop worrying about haters in the comments. It brings the entire vibe of the videos down when you spend so much time saying "I know it's not optimal, I know this isn't the best way..." etc. Just play how you play. You get out of almost every disaster save ever, you succeed against the most insane mods, just do what you do and enjoy it and let us enjoy you doing it! Fuck the haters. Don't waste time addressing them. Anyone who tries to play a game like HoI4 in the "most optimal" way never leaves their basement anyhow. Just play the game, make the content, and let us enjoy your enjoyment of it.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
I have not even seen any of the haters really. Its worrying about nothing.
Happy Fathers day Bittersteel!
i will never be this early again to a BitterSteel vid... Mark my words.
yes brother
@@vietanhnguyen4218 thanks i guess lol
Hi bittersteel i really enjoy wachting your videos i hope you keep making videos and grow❤❤❤
I remember when I saw the mod creator post on reddit about the mod. My biggest problem was how he essentially vaporized the navy but gave the German, Italian, and Japanese navy needless buffs. Like yeah sure you can still include a pearl harbor deficit but the entireeeee rest of the San Diego and Norfolk fleets would still exist.
I just told him he was fucking stupid to obliterate the navy while buffing the rest of the axis navies for zero gain. (Like serious the NCs or Dakotas weren’t even at least in the production que)
I've been playing the mod after seeing your struggle on stream. Its imo ideal for a scenario to build up without alot of pressure to defend the borders because pushing them out of boston and california seems really easy and holding novia scotia isn't that difficult. Florida was so annoying that i deleted the troops there via console. After that it was actually fun. Island hopping in the carribean and dunking on navies is my favourite way to play hoi
bitter be spoiling us with the best possible weekend
Agreed
As a fellow carrier naval enjoyer, try the Kaiserriech naval rework mod, makes the ai design realistic ships and task forces that depending on the settings can make naval fun
I actually enjoy you playing and seeing you turn around a hopeless situation.
Happy fathers day Bitt3erSteel and thanks for an amazing video!
You could also name capital ships after members, when you're doing a navy heavy game
38:03 “doesn’t matter how much you prepare”
Sends non-fully trained divisions to invade the enemy.
I’m surprised they set this mod in 1942 and not in 1945 or later.
i think its so you have a major naval disadvantage at the start
This will be chaotic
I'm playing this rn not because Im insane because I enjoy a challenge. Ehh maybe a little cause I'm insane @19:34
太離譜了，這 AI 就像是缺了幾組的邏輯，海軍?空軍? 進攻計畫? 裝甲部隊?
明明只剩下一個國家一個戰線，但AI 就是沒有把軍隊部屬到前線，試著做任何事情
10:53 所以為甚麼AI要離開?也許他沒有贏下戰鬥，但撤離部隊是沒有理由的
Let's spread freedom and democracy for AMERICA AND THE WORLD!!🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥
Sadly the democracy part of that will expire soon...
Well the recent developments in America kind of make me doubt in that...
@@ImbuedHunterOverdramatic
@@Aaron067That is literally part of democracy. Get over it
American citizens are not free, and America is more like a republic. If you can't see anything past your false opinions, then you really are an American
If u want a challenge, you could play as the pacific fleet in maa.
You have to defeat all the west coast as just hawaii and alaska.
Awesome video. Super cool !!!
So in this mod, the Axis killed off the Commonwealth, France and the USSR, stole their navies, sunk the US fleet and at no point did the US spool up production prior to being invaded?
Caught napping
today i found out how to naval invade while playing road to 56
This mod really missed out on having a Star Trek Enterprise easter egg. Specifically referencing the 2 part episodes where The Enterprise get sent back in time to WW2 to stop time travelling aliens from helping the Germans from conquering the US.
I like that the mod seems to not even pretend this is mildly realistic and just says "Here is a fun scenario to play!" We don't need a "Somehow, Palpatine returned" fanfic at the start to fight an interesting scenario.
The Eagle may have broken a leg but that’s why god blessed it with wings
I did indeed watch this to gauge my interest in playing this mod. My interest has been sufficiently snubbed, thank you bitter
I got really lucky with this mod, the germans basically vacated the ports, but the italians and nova scotia were problems for me
The amount of dopamine in my bloodstream is reaching critical mass
Bittersteel getting consumed by the slop within 3 seconds of the video starting? Is he going to become isp
Can we pit one "It's not meta"-Guy versus a artillery/tank only enjoyer? I'd get popcorn for that discussion.
The fact that u say baston but u say Los Angeles in a pretty good spanish accent is crazy to me
0:51 This is the only correct way to pronounce "Baaaashton".
From this video i've learned that carriers are suboptimal
Hey, Bittersteel, don't you know that carriers are not optimal!? What a goober
i remember you on stream saying i will never play this again
I don’t want to know how many ships are on the bottom of the sea after this
So what exactly is a meta design? I have been doing this design for my carriers for a while now and it works very well
25:28 you know it would helpyouby adding that port to railways for more supply than just 8
italians that landed in florida definitely got turned into gator bait
No one cares if you're first or last in the comments, but...... It gives him money so
he's able to do that and i can't even beat germany as the usa in historical
bittersteel being bitter. while ISP is having a great time.
Decimation is something entirely different, not killing enemy troops or navies! It was a punishment in roman armies where a tenth (deci in latin) of a group of soldiers or legion were beaten to death by their comrades. This word is so often misused...
Through a process of semantic change starting in the 17th century, the word evolved to refer to any extreme reduction in the number of a population or force, or an overall sense of destruction and ruin, not strictly in the punitive sense or to a reduction by one-tenth.
I wonder what a civil war mod would be like
Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?
I’ve watched two other expert HOI4 TH-camrs try this same mod and either get somewhere and stop, or barely claw on.
That was ISP and Aldarhall.
This is Naval Invasions The Mod 😅 and I'm here for the rage
Bittersteel made it so that Goering was the most competent part of the German military.
Next video sneak peek to Belgium focus tree :).
37:49 1 time i played (Germans, roleplay) with mode where i had Basically infinite resources and i also before i unpaused game i instant build everything from tech-tree & focus tree using command, i had like 100k Jet Fighters on UKs sky in 1 point. I was like roleplaying that German had accuired somekind of future scifi tech what allowed them to build everything instantly.
Carriers are goated tbh. If only they had the ability to ferry units to do naval based naval invasions
They probably should. Right next to the naval invasion option there's an option to do it from a "floating harbor", which sounds like what you're describing. The big question is, how do you even get floating harbors
@@erikhanseisenheber it's like a temp port but it has to be produced
@@erikhanseisenheber You research naval invasion tech 2 and the game gives the production for the harbours. Its only really useful if youre planning to do any invasions that have more size than Operation Overlord or 2x24 divisions (any more units will take ridiculous amounts of time to prepare) because of the supply.
Somehow, the Italians were the most competent in the end of the beginning situation.
Wait how do you cycle units when doing a naval invasion
2:38 what’s the point in doing war bonds when you are already at 10%, since you can’t go below 10% consumer goods?
Makes me feel good about myself
@ that’s fair ngl
Germany in 1946: what the hell is that noise? *oh no*
America: **invading Britain** *AND THE YANKS ARE COMING THE YANKS ARE COMING*
I see its a new disaster save.
Listen, the Italian army was on a peninsula from the start, we all know they were never really a threat there.
I love how i played this mod as germany and it was so easy xd
The most immaculate US military industrial complex post-war
I've played this mod like 20 times and I die each time.
Carriers go brrrr
liberation ❌
Freedom 🦅🦅
I think he likes carriers
Freedom rahhhhh🦅🦅🦅🦅
Agreed
I'm really surprised you didn't try to take control of the English channel. That probably would've starved the lower part of England
"all that's left is America"
Siberian Army:
Does anyone knows the music he used in 36:41
0:08 😁
I'm just putting a question out there: Why are you only able to put like 5 dockyards on ships? Why isn't it like infantry equipment where you can put a lot on it.
Gameplay balancing. Slows down the proscutionrate of capital ships. Screens can have 10. Again, to balance things a bit
@Bitt3rSteel thanks!
OVER THERE!
Cool scenario but it's just a pain simulator
So, are you going to start uploading 2 videos per weekend?
i’m noticing a lot of zooming here, is it just me or the editing style changed again
One must wonder how the fuck the Japanese have crossed the Pacific and also landed in LA and San Fran. Like actually how. It wasn't in the realm of possibility in '42.
Well played Chad
Starting to think US Carriers are in fact meta for the naval game
Wait how on Earth did the Italy magane to take the two biggest cities in Floirda? One of them being the 3rd largest US milltary strongpints since WW1 and despite being of massive strtgic instrest has never been attacked before by anyone included all but very few hurricanes! The other being mami which Flioirda bearly has any control of which even fought the rest of Floirda inm the civil war making Floirda the only state I believe to fight a two front war ever which we didn't even lose milltray mind one despite a massvie blockade... We just gave up because the CSA whent insanwe and killed y ancestor for checking up on his sick family which had every major general in a massive debate... Like Italy the nation who only strength in the world wars was choosing the winning side in the end... But Floirda in both world wars majorly controboted to victory in alot of ways when again Italy didn't... Like I really don't get that decstion at all given the fact they could easly had given Italy some of easter central florixda which didn't have much going on back then.... But the two places that are insanely good at war? Give me a break...
I agree it's ridiculous, but I suppose you have to assume its a Highcastle or Wolfenstein scenario, so let's just assume the US was 100% unprepared
👌🏻
Deja vu? I swear i watched this same upload just recently.
Ngl, I thought this was a disaster save
Where’s the crispy mic? 😢