This is the best "Why we bleep" episode so far! You actually addressed the ELEPHANT question, that is IN THE TITLE. Also thoughts about AI and music are mind blowing and eye-opening. Thanks to you and BT for this amazing talk.
Great interview. Thanks for letting BT just flow. I'm not even a music producer. But instead a fan of his music. His work rate is phenomenal so it's great to get an insight into how he manages himself.
Recently circled back around to listen to this again after it's original publish date. 🤯 Been following BT since his first records. Amazing interview. BT continues to be way ahead of his time.
Great conversation. BT seems like a very positive switched on guy who hasn't lost his passion even operating this many years in the music industry which is inspiring in itself. His points about AI in the future of music... mind blown. Having read the comments i was expecting the typical angles here - but his way of explaining it being to do with artists being the data set etc - incredibly fresh thinking. Great stuff
Incredible conversation about AI, music, and the future......Surprised this doesn't have 100 times more views. The modular discussion was very interesting as well. There's the modular blackhole where people get consumed by more and more modules and cease to make music. Workflow is critical. This podcast is a keeper. Here's a drink to world peace.
Thanks for that interview! Really inspiring! What are the techniques used for analyzing an artist’s training sets or figuring out your own preferences? How are we as artists supposed to do this to protect ourselves?
RE BT and the OSCar comment. I had an OSCar but sold it late 80s. I take comfort in the hope it found a home with Mr BT or maybe Underworld or Paul Hartnoll . My OSCar got me the sack from a band, the guitarist in the band couldn't cope with the preset #1 it's Lead sound, so me (and my OSCar) got the "don't come back" phone call 😢 thanks for the podcast 👍
Just listened on Spotify and had to come round here to say. Best episode yet! He's a surprisingly insightful individual. I heard of him for the first time last year when someone told me I sounded like him (don't hear it myself but upon listening I definitely took it as a compliment) His idea of granting ownership of an artists data set to the artist is one I have trouble seeing as working, but I would love it if it happened.
Thinking more about people's data sets as an owned product has me thinking about the sample pack industry and what that will turn in to over time. Have you heard the stuff that's already coming out of jukebox by open AI. It's grainy and weird but it's also clear that we humans will be left in the dust before too long. BT is right imo the ownership of these data sets needs some serious regulation
Great episode. Interesting view about artists "training set". Fortunately, the "sets" are constantly evolving, sometimes taking sharp turns as life surprises us and also don't only cover the artist music writing ability. There is a lot more. Patenting yourself. Humm.
It's not been said explicitly in this podcast, but the danger isn't that some kid will use AI to clone your work, it's that the same companies that are already paying you too little for your music will use it to replace you completely. The playlists will keep playing, but the music in them will be owned by Spotify themselves, so that they can keep all the money.
I don't think the AI-generated music is going to be a "red flag" kinda thing in the future. It's kind of a situation like the "sampling" as Alex resonated. People won't listen to AI-generated music like they are listening their radio or Spotify or whatever, meaning it won't generate money. If a bedroom producer kid use the AI to generate a sample from their favorite artist, that falls into the "sampling" category, legally and morally, like we are debating since the 80s. On the other hand, the artist's intellect (like their intellectual property does) should be protected against the record labels or streaming services. Questions questions, that was an awesome episode, Alex and BT you guys are the best!
Crikey!! Like most intelligent people whose minds work so incredibly fast, he doesn't need much prompting. Very impressive. Thanks for the Skillshare share.
Probably my favorite musician and DJs as well as my (unfortunately) 2nd favorite film composers after Charlie Clouser. Just an amazing creative and I honestly want his Isotope software really really bad.
i think BT speaks about the space station (minute 57) - by ursa major ;) the digital reissue (no plugin, it was a little desktop unit with digital ins and outs only as far as i remember) is even rarer and imo better.
These is so huge and so important and everyone should here this. Even the simple music consumers should listen that and think about what they actually consume and why this is just acoustic junk food that cannot make you really enjoy.
Very interesting talk! Some real eye-opening information in there - and equally kind of scary with regards to the AI-related ideas/what is coming, better to know about it than be surprised I guess. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you! And yes indeed, have a listen to the link BT shared in the description here to listen to AI-generated music. It's grainy, but what is already possible is also insane when you think about it too...
With the fascinating AI discussion at the end. I have a question. If you let artists copyright their 'preference/training set'. Then will they start suing others for using their style (I mean outside of training AI). If so how will new genres evolve? How will new styles or music sub cultures evolve. Is there not a danger of essentially making that process of people coalescing around a sound illegal ?
1:11:00 Very thought provoking discussion about the future of music. Property. Ownership. Fair compensation for artistry. Maybe join the hive mind with a bluetooth brain, or not. 🤖
this is the best understanding of AI I've ever heard. I've only ever commented on spitfire's stuff about it. but what if we were using AI to make the variance and sample choice in a sampled instrument based on recording performances the way they do in movies? analyze the performances of amazing players and use that to arrange sample playback...you could do brilliant things with what people use to deepfake stars into porn. the technology isn't bad. the applications can be.
52/17 is the bomb. There are 52/17 timers / Tadam timers you can get for free on any platform. The key is to not snooze them. Listen to the alarms, force yourself. It is insane how big of an effect it has. Thanks for highlighting, BT.
Just finished. Mind = blown! Get this strong feeling that I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS AI SHIT TAKING OVER THE WORLD!! But how/what can one even do 😅
Hah!! The problem is it relies on rights laws that don’t exist, like sampling litigation it’ll mean laws have to catch up with technology, after a lot of damage is done - so as he says, you have to MAKE the AI and so then you can control it...right?!! 🤔😭
Be like my friends who think the world is made of peaches and cream and our government loves us and the freemasons really are just nice people, they are chilled as :)
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This is the best "Why we bleep" episode so far! You actually addressed the ELEPHANT question, that is IN THE TITLE.
Also thoughts about AI and music are mind blowing and eye-opening.
Thanks to you and BT for this amazing talk.
Great interview. Thanks for letting BT just flow. I'm not even a music producer. But instead a fan of his music. His work rate is phenomenal so it's great to get an insight into how he manages himself.
What a guy, we can all learn a lot from him and his experience and attitude. Thanks for doing this BT
Recently circled back around to listen to this again after it's original publish date. 🤯
Been following BT since his first records. Amazing interview. BT continues to be way ahead of his time.
Great conversation. BT seems like a very positive switched on guy who hasn't lost his passion even operating this many years in the music industry which is inspiring in itself.
His points about AI in the future of music... mind blown. Having read the comments i was expecting the typical angles here - but his way of explaining it being to do with artists being the data set etc - incredibly fresh thinking. Great stuff
Man, with an upbringing like that theres no wonder hes done what hes done. Amazing interview.
Oh this is just perfect for a Sunday afternoon; thanks Mr. Melodies / Mr. T for making this happen!
BT is profoundly heavy. Thank you for this. So much to consider.
Amazing talk! Thanks for this! 🤗😁👊
Incredible conversation about AI, music, and the future......Surprised this doesn't have 100 times more views. The modular discussion was very interesting as well. There's the modular blackhole where people get consumed by more and more modules and cease to make music. Workflow is critical. This podcast is a keeper. Here's a drink to world peace.
🤟Thanks - Please share it with your crew Ben!
Thanks for that interview! Really inspiring! What are the techniques used for analyzing an artist’s training sets or figuring out your own preferences? How are we as artists supposed to do this to protect ourselves?
I'm still listening to 今 Ima and ESCM. Played them in the last few days.
48 mins in he basically asks us to reflect on why we bleep :) get episode as always !
RE BT and the OSCar comment. I had an OSCar but sold it late 80s. I take comfort in the hope it found a home with Mr BT or maybe Underworld or Paul Hartnoll . My OSCar got me the sack from a band, the guitarist in the band couldn't cope with the preset #1 it's Lead sound, so me (and my OSCar) got the "don't come back" phone call 😢 thanks for the podcast 👍
Brian literally just doing an off the cuff Ted Talk, this is insane.
Just listened on Spotify and had to come round here to say. Best episode yet! He's a surprisingly insightful individual. I heard of him for the first time last year when someone told me I sounded like him (don't hear it myself but upon listening I definitely took it as a compliment)
His idea of granting ownership of an artists data set to the artist is one I have trouble seeing as working, but I would love it if it happened.
Thinking more about people's data sets as an owned product has me thinking about the sample pack industry and what that will turn in to over time.
Have you heard the stuff that's already coming out of jukebox by open AI. It's grainy and weird but it's also clear that we humans will be left in the dust before too long. BT is right imo the ownership of these data sets needs some serious regulation
Great episode. Interesting view about artists "training set".
Fortunately, the "sets" are constantly evolving, sometimes taking sharp turns as life surprises us and also don't only cover the artist music writing ability. There is a lot more.
Patenting yourself. Humm.
This was an excellent podcast/conversation. Always feel inspired after listening to BT's insights and wisdom. A true legend.
Great chat, thank you both. I learned quite a bit.
It's not been said explicitly in this podcast, but the danger isn't that some kid will use AI to clone your work, it's that the same companies that are already paying you too little for your music will use it to replace you completely. The playlists will keep playing, but the music in them will be owned by Spotify themselves, so that they can keep all the money.
Great episode. Thank you!
Time Management: something that stresses me out by just thinking about it :D
Great episode, the AI future looks very exciting to me.
Fantastic advice from BT, thank you for the video.
Amazing interview so much to think about.
I don't think the AI-generated music is going to be a "red flag" kinda thing in the future. It's kind of a situation like the "sampling" as Alex resonated. People won't listen to AI-generated music like they are listening their radio or Spotify or whatever, meaning it won't generate money. If a bedroom producer kid use the AI to generate a sample from their favorite artist, that falls into the "sampling" category, legally and morally, like we are debating since the 80s. On the other hand, the artist's intellect (like their intellectual property does) should be protected against the record labels or streaming services. Questions questions, that was an awesome episode, Alex and BT you guys are the best!
Crikey!! Like most intelligent people whose minds work so incredibly fast, he doesn't need much prompting. Very impressive. Thanks for the Skillshare share.
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Probably my favorite musician and DJs as well as my (unfortunately) 2nd favorite film composers after Charlie Clouser. Just an amazing creative and I honestly want his Isotope software really really bad.
Love this!
i think BT speaks about the space station (minute 57) - by ursa major ;) the digital reissue (no plugin, it was a little desktop unit with digital ins and outs only as far as i remember) is even rarer and imo better.
ps: brilliant interview(ed) guest
These is so huge and so important and everyone should here this. Even the simple music consumers should listen that and think about what they actually consume and why this is just acoustic junk food that cannot make you really enjoy.
What a guru, thanks for facilitating this chat :D
The beatbox solo in the last minute of NSYNC's "POP" was a watershed moment for idm.
Any recommendations for software delay plugins to get the “delay as reverb”sound that BT mentions when describing Manuel Göttsching’s E2-E4?
Very interesting talk! Some real eye-opening information in there - and equally kind of scary with regards to the AI-related ideas/what is coming, better to know about it than be surprised I guess. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you! And yes indeed, have a listen to the link BT shared in the description here to listen to AI-generated music. It's grainy, but what is already possible is also insane when you think about it too...
With the fascinating AI discussion at the end. I have a question.
If you let artists copyright their 'preference/training set'. Then will they start suing others for using their style (I mean outside of training AI). If so how will new genres evolve? How will new styles or music sub cultures evolve. Is there not a danger of essentially making that process of people coalescing around a sound illegal ?
the intro sponsor advert is priceless...lol
1:11:00 Very thought provoking discussion about the future of music.
Property. Ownership. Fair compensation for artistry.
Maybe join the hive mind with a bluetooth brain, or not. 🤖
Which Josh Wink track is he talking about around 56:00? It sounds like I need to listen to that track
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this is the best understanding of AI I've ever heard. I've only ever commented on spitfire's stuff about it. but what if we were using AI to make the variance and sample choice in a sampled instrument based on recording performances the way they do in movies? analyze the performances of amazing players and use that to arrange sample playback...you could do brilliant things with what people use to deepfake stars into porn. the technology isn't bad. the applications can be.
@mylarmelodies you is GAS man.
What was the name of that record? Big thanks!
E2-E4 by Manuel Göttsching!
mylarmelodies thnx man! Listening right now :)
Ty both-visiting the comments on TH-cam hoping this would be asked an answered. What a great listen this cast was!
Dear Mr Bleep, what is the album title BT mentioned as changing his life? HELP MEEEEE
E2-E4 by Manuel Gottsching!
More thanks than Trump owes in taxes!
bt is high iq individual, he will speak my mind exactly
What is the record they are talking about around 55 min? can’t hear what they are saying!
E2-E4 by Manuel Gottsching!
mylarmelodies bought on vinyl, will listen to it uninterrupted!
Calle Sjönell Oof! Great work mate 👍
52/17 is the bomb. There are 52/17 timers / Tadam timers you can get for free on any platform. The key is to not snooze them. Listen to the alarms, force yourself. It is insane how big of an effect it has. Thanks for highlighting, BT.
Just finished. Mind = blown! Get this strong feeling that I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS AI SHIT TAKING OVER THE WORLD!!
But how/what can one even do 😅
Hah!! The problem is it relies on rights laws that don’t exist, like sampling litigation it’ll mean laws have to catch up with technology, after a lot of damage is done - so as he says, you have to MAKE the AI and so then you can control it...right?!! 🤔😭
Be like my friends who think the world is made of peaches and cream and our government loves us and the freemasons really are just nice people, they are chilled as :)
AI suggested this video to me, and placed your comment for me at the top.
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