34:44 Hey hey, I was your opponent round 2. Funny story here is that I had a pile planed that involved fetching and baubling that killed quicker but forgot to play them before the Doomsday so I had to rebuild my pile 😅. GGs!
Blinking their stuff with the doggo with Containment priest in play is also such a fun combo that makes 2 already top tier aggro cards even better! (I dunno if he says or does this here I am only part way through the draft lol)
I got extremely got by that lurrus pump fake. 😂 Question: if you had “accidentally “ taken lurrus there would that be enough to get you to commit at that point or are you abandoning the lurrus still?
Lsv got me gearing up to type up how cutting the 2 best red 4 drops and not picking the number 1 anti combo tech for boros was just such a blatant mistake. Ggwp
On the turn you drew path I think it was worth evoking fury then pathing it in order to guarantee a red source on future turns. Especially since emberheart and inti could theoretically recoup the card advantage
I agree LSV I always keep in mind when picking thought scour (or even in constructed) if they scry or surveil to the top you thought scour them.. it’s a card they want lol
Love to see some Boros beat down every once in a while. Also love LSV’s spirited defense of his boy (girl?) Lurrus. Edit: Little bit of trolling too lol.
Yeah, I was going to comment that this deck is full of great cards, but when I do really well with Boros it usually involves multiple fast mana artifacts and/or more of the X-for-1s that he wasn’t seeing (Jailer, Fable, Forth, etc.).
Loved this deck. Can you maybe once a week draft something simliar. Something that's easier to draft and pilot than Academy/Lurrus and so on. I love watching you play the difficult stuff too but I absolutely suck at piloting it for real :)
Everything kind of blurs together for me over the years so it's hard to say for sure if that's the best vintage cube deck I've ever seen but holy hell it doesn't take much effort for me to imagine it is. I'm sure at some point it's quite possible I've seen better decks but I don't know if I've ever seen a cube deck I've wanted to pilot more in my life right now lol.
being a league game the life/death sequence was just funny.. and u can appreciate it.. imagine this being in a 64m vegas thing or even top8 .. uff.. that would be kinda wild ^^
I like Lurrus, but I think the biggest issue I have with it is that it costs 6 mana to draw those 2 cards (3 to put Lurrus in hand and 3 to cast it). In grindy games it is really good as the opponent is basically required to keep a removal spell in hand to deal with it or risk having their other removal undone, and if they can't answer it then it can win the game with an avalanche of card advantage. On the flipside though, the cube has a lot of really impactful cards that can't be played in a Lurrus companion deck and sometimes you can lose even if you are up on cards just based on the fact that the opponent is playing more impactful threats.
12:02 wondering if diamond was considered here, maybe now retrospective of the cube season I feel like it’s a better pick than the 3 drop but I could be wrong
In R2G1 vs the B/G opponent, during the turn you drew Path, would it have been a viable play to have evoked fury to burn Sorin for 4 and then Path Fury for a guaranteed mountain for next turn? Or am I going too deep? I can see how opponent having removal in response could be a blowout, but the situation was pretty desperate.
There is a kind of bad Vengevine/Hogaak deck that can use them. They have some other synergies with discard stuff, but I don’t normally find them worth playing.
any thought to lurrus in the maindeck? if containment priest hadn't been in that pack (or if you just felt you didn't need graveyard/sneak hate) seems like lurrus would be just fine as a maindeck threat. doesn't have to be all or nothing.
I could smell something fishy from a minor detail in his voice with the lurrus move, but I am not enough into modern day vintage cube to know where it was good or bad from a game mechanics point of view.
I feel like this deck failed at either having fast mana/power of course but also the curve being so light on beater 1 drops. I feel like you typically want about 4 1drops.
Can you explain your lurrus limits? If the pick order had been slightly different, you'd have taken the lurrus and given up the possibility of taking those cards, and other powerful 3+ drops, later on. And you'd have then taken worse cards over the more expensive ones and not looked back. At what point is giving up past picks more important to you than giving up future potential?
I tune into my favorite MTG content creator and he drafts Boros and then trolls me with Lurrus baits. How much more abuse can I take? Probably a lot fun draft.
Lurrus is good, no doubt. The reason people rage is you see it and you try to pivot into it way too late usually into the draft and draft a much weaker deck because you force Lurrus. Doesn't matter how much value Lurrus gets you if your deck is just playing mid cards to force it. Early Lurrus is totally reasonable, late Lurrus is not.
LSV has never given up more than like 2 picks for lurrus. People generally look at it in hindsight, blend picks together and think it was wrong because of picks after lurrus. I would be hard pressed to find a draft where lurrus wasn’t the correct decision at the time.
in m2g1 a lot of "if I could have killed sorin" but you could have killed sorin, fury on him the turn you had when he was a creature. I guess you still would have lost to doomsday+thoracle though.
p1p1 Tinker seems better than Swords to Plowshares since it can win the game on turn 2/3, while plow at best 1:1s with mana advantage and is much more replaceable (especially with the current cube focus on cheap creatures, making removal spells more interchangeable)
Y’all go watch Lsv rate yugioh cards if they are banned or not. You can’t say this guy doesnt know the recipe for card games and what you can do to exploit certain ones!
While I feel like game 1 in round 2 you did get quite unlucky to have that thoughtseize make your hand entirely nonfunctional, i don't really think game three was unlucky. You kind of kept a hand with a single not particularly fast threat in your aggro deck and just did mostly nothing the whole game against a combo deck.
The aggro decks are too good in the cube. World class players playing against equal competition routinely force them and have outstanding win percentages. The threats are just much too powerful and mana efficient and make other win cons seem quaint.
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Not going to lie, you had me for a moment there...
I was super had. Reasonable arguments could be made
I'm not often *got* by an lsv troll. But I was holding my breath that whole time.
RIP Goldspan Dragon. Went to the sideboard for the joke and then never came back
I was entirely had lul
With how he'd talked about it just minutes before, I think that's fair, lol.
The foreshadowing of Luis getting on his soapbox about Lurrus was so good
“I don’t even know if those cards are good” lmao peak entertainment
Our man didn't even comment on the Academy in Pack 3-- so disciplined.
34:44 Hey hey, I was your opponent round 2. Funny story here is that I had a pile planed that involved fetching and baubling that killed quicker but forgot to play them before the Doomsday so I had to rebuild my pile 😅. GGs!
Your deck was super interesting. Very cool to see.
Sweet deck bruv
Awesome deck!
In game 2, when you got Stück on 2 plains, you could have pitch cast Fury and path it in response to get a mountain :)
I think he was considering it but didn’t want to do it without a good target in play. Might have still been worth it just to -4 the Sorin.
Blinking their stuff with the doggo with Containment priest in play is also such a fun combo that makes 2 already top tier aggro cards even better! (I dunno if he says or does this here I am only part way through the draft lol)
I've been watching these daily and this was the most disciplined draft I've seen yet.
😂😂😂 got me good with I don't even know if those cards are good
I got extremely got by that lurrus pump fake. 😂
Question: if you had “accidentally “ taken lurrus there would that be enough to get you to commit at that point or are you abandoning the lurrus still?
I would play Lurrus in main deck probably.
@@dementievatzyeah lurrus is fine in the 40
That last opponent deck was crazy. Lotus, Recall, Mox, Academy.
Breach, Brain Freeze, LED. Dear lord.
I love the response to the comments from the Lurrus about cutting Fury. It’s good reasoning for being a fan of Lurrus
holy smokes, that last opp's deck was basically Saitama in cardboard form
31:00 pitch casting fury and playing path to get yourself a mountain could have got you going
There is an argument that Lurrus as printed before the errata was the strongest card ever printed in the history of magic
There's always arguments, doesn't mean they're very good arguments.
Yes, just like adding 3 mana to Black Lotus also makes it a lot worse.
This is my opinion fwiw
Before errata it simply was the strongest card ever. After errata it was merely the strongest creature ever.
no
Lsv got me gearing up to type up how cutting the 2 best red 4 drops and not picking the number 1 anti combo tech for boros was just such a blatant mistake. Ggwp
That Lurrus rant is 100% factual. It is so strong.
Luis, I was questioning EVERYTHING when you started removing half your deck for Lurrus, and you'd JUST talked me into not being a h8r!
On the turn you drew path I think it was worth evoking fury then pathing it in order to guarantee a red source on future turns. Especially since emberheart and inti could theoretically recoup the card advantage
Great draft, I'm extremely glad you stuck to two colours. You fully had me with the Lurrus 😄
ngl - the lurus drag everything to the sideboard got me good - well played
I was completely sold that you were taking Lurrus. Masterfully done
I agree LSV I always keep in mind when picking thought scour (or even in constructed) if they scry or surveil to the top you thought scour them.. it’s a card they want lol
Love your positive mindset to stay upbeat and laugh about your bad run of results!
Feels like your first match opponent saw they were playing LSV and just was really nervous.
or just very new to the MTGO interface? Not having the precombat stop, for example
Alright you got me with that one rofl. I was thinking, maaaaan what?? LOL!
I think I'm supposed to keep this hand sometimes sounds so similar to I think I'm supposed to lose this game!
Laughed at the Lurrus pick. Well played.
Love to see some Boros beat down every once in a while. Also love LSV’s spirited defense of his boy (girl?) Lurrus.
Edit: Little bit of trolling too lol.
lurrus bit was gold thank you for that
thanks for the video!
P3P4 Mox Diamond might have been better then Gut, only thing deck was missing was mana acceleration.
Yeah, I was going to comment that this deck is full of great cards, but when I do really well with Boros it usually involves multiple fast mana artifacts and/or more of the X-for-1s that he wasn’t seeing (Jailer, Fable, Forth, etc.).
Bolt Swords Plateau PYROGOYF??? I just know this is boutta be an all-timer #borosgang
Loved this deck. Can you maybe once a week draft something simliar. Something that's easier to draft and pilot than Academy/Lurrus and so on. I love watching you play the difficult stuff too but I absolutely suck at piloting it for real :)
dang, that last deck is a deck I would have *loved* to see you play. (and you used to!)
Perfect draft to do during a stationary bike session
Sweet Mother of God. 5 mana on turn one. That last opponent was COOKING
Everything kind of blurs together for me over the years so it's hard to say for sure if that's the best vintage cube deck I've ever seen but holy hell it doesn't take much effort for me to imagine it is. I'm sure at some point it's quite possible I've seen better decks but I don't know if I've ever seen a cube deck I've wanted to pilot more in my life right now lol.
By man read the format as "Vintage..." and stopped reading
First to smoke the Boros pack
Lurrus fundamentally breaks the rule of the game. That's its power.
31:00
pitch-cast fury, path your own fury to take a mountain?
Came here to say this
Why not evoke the fury then path it in the mana screw game? Too many resources given up?
Sicko had me with that Lurris swap 💀
being a league game the life/death sequence was just funny.. and u can appreciate it.. imagine this being in a 64m vegas thing or even top8 .. uff.. that would be kinda wild ^^
Match 1 was really something.
Should you have taken Lurrus and just maindecked it? Pretty strong card still.
Is it better than containment priest in the main?
I like Lurrus, but I think the biggest issue I have with it is that it costs 6 mana to draw those 2 cards (3 to put Lurrus in hand and 3 to cast it). In grindy games it is really good as the opponent is basically required to keep a removal spell in hand to deal with it or risk having their other removal undone, and if they can't answer it then it can win the game with an avalanche of card advantage. On the flipside though, the cube has a lot of really impactful cards that can't be played in a Lurrus companion deck and sometimes you can lose even if you are up on cards just based on the fact that the opponent is playing more impactful threats.
Is there a reason to take Prismatic Vista over Stomping Ground when the point was to add a green source to splash Pest Infestation?
What a dope Game 2 deck.
12:02 wondering if diamond was considered here, maybe now retrospective of the cube season I feel like it’s a better pick than the 3 drop but I could be wrong
Man that Round 2 opponent was COOKING
8:05 BAIT! :D
he got me I have to say
Almost got me at the Containment Priest pick 😁
In R2G1 vs the B/G opponent, during the turn you drew Path, would it have been a viable play to have evoked fury to burn Sorin for 4 and then Path Fury for a guaranteed mountain for next turn? Or am I going too deep? I can see how opponent having removal in response could be a blowout, but the situation was pretty desperate.
m2g1 world's best thoughtsieze
The 2nd match, opponent's deck was so spicy.
That last match was like the final boss of an RPG, ya’ll playing 2 different games
I'm surprised no thought for staff in final deck - fantastic with the dog, great with gut, adeline can trigger and redraw eventually.
That golgari doomsday storm deck was..well, entertaining at least😂
Why on earth are the Rootwalla's in this Cube?? I thought this Cube was supposed to be heavily refined.
There is a kind of bad Vengevine/Hogaak deck that can use them. They have some other synergies with discard stuff, but I don’t normally find them worth playing.
any thought to lurrus in the maindeck? if containment priest hadn't been in that pack (or if you just felt you didn't need graveyard/sneak hate) seems like lurrus would be just fine as a maindeck threat. doesn't have to be all or nothing.
That’s a bit like saying you can just use time walk as an explore. If that’s all it’s ever going to be, it’s just not worth it.
If Containment Priest was not in the pack, would you have taken Lurrus?
Lurrus prank worked , cause we seen it so many times in so many decks. Rick rolled everyone lol
I could smell something fishy from a minor detail in his voice with the lurrus move, but I am not enough into modern day vintage cube to know where it was good or bad from a game mechanics point of view.
gut is great, but it hurt passing the mox diamond, especially since you mentioned that that was the only type of thing you were missing.
Why not Fury the Sorin when it was a creature, since you have nothing else going on? Feel like I'm missing something.
I feel like this deck failed at either having fast mana/power of course but also the curve being so light on beater 1 drops. I feel like you typically want about 4 1drops.
That third match was essentialy Vintage constructed 😂
8:10 my wife had to ask me why i started randomly yelling while I was eating lunch.
Dang bro, how many wives do you have?
@@Nightwishmaster damn typo, my whole good funny situation was ruined.
Can you explain your lurrus limits? If the pick order had been slightly different, you'd have taken the lurrus and given up the possibility of taking those cards, and other powerful 3+ drops, later on. And you'd have then taken worse cards over the more expensive ones and not looked back.
At what point is giving up past picks more important to you than giving up future potential?
Game 1 was hilarious
Lmao I got got with that Lurrus deke
I think the first opponent was either unfamiliar with MODO or very drunk.
13:54 Luis! You missed your 0 mana artifact that taps for mana!
Karakas or Plateau in that spot?
He would take karakas he just didn't think of it when giving examples. Karakas over anything but power or forth eorlingas
I tune into my favorite MTG content creator and he drafts Boros and then trolls me with Lurrus baits. How much more abuse can I take? Probably a lot fun draft.
Lurrus is good, no doubt. The reason people rage is you see it and you try to pivot into it way too late usually into the draft and draft a much weaker deck because you force Lurrus. Doesn't matter how much value Lurrus gets you if your deck is just playing mid cards to force it. Early Lurrus is totally reasonable, late Lurrus is not.
LSV has never given up more than like 2 picks for lurrus. People generally look at it in hindsight, blend picks together and think it was wrong because of picks after lurrus. I would be hard pressed to find a draft where lurrus wasn’t the correct decision at the time.
Match 3 game 3 turn 1 was brutal😭
in m2g1 a lot of "if I could have killed sorin" but you could have killed sorin, fury on him the turn you had when he was a creature. I guess you still would have lost to doomsday+thoracle though.
I would kill for the pov of round one opponent
that lurrus bait lul
p1p1 Tinker seems better than Swords to Plowshares since it can win the game on turn 2/3, while plow at best 1:1s with mana advantage and is much more replaceable (especially with the current cube focus on cheap creatures, making removal spells more interchangeable)
all time bamboozle
That second round was ridiculous. Never lucky.
Edit: the round 3 opponents deck was also ridiculous.
Not afraid to confess I was baited
You got me talking out loud to my screen begging you to not pick lurrus
I think everyone can agree that white is the worst color in cube and green is the best, but what order are the other three in?
What
@@traycarrot oops I meant that the other way around
Fucking got me lmao
Why not mox diamond?
I got got. 😂
Plateau also over Karakas? I disagree I think
I was thinking same thing - he probably forgot Karakas in that moment.
Karakas would also probably be better than taking a plateau there
Great fair deck! Too bad you were against unfair decks.
Sometimes its right to play and not companion lurrus
Man, we really need the complaint fed to raise the interest rates, this market is flooded with bad beats.
I will admit to hating on Lurrus a lot, but if LSV says it's good then it's good lol.
8:23 I was so audibly confused my roommates came to check on me. Good one LSV.
You Should Start getting away with it more often again. Maybe invite cheon for some good luck at some point?
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Y’all go watch Lsv rate yugioh cards if they are banned or not. You can’t say this guy doesnt know the recipe for card games and what you can do to exploit certain ones!
While I feel like game 1 in round 2 you did get quite unlucky to have that thoughtseize make your hand entirely nonfunctional, i don't really think game three was unlucky. You kind of kept a hand with a single not particularly fast threat in your aggro deck and just did mostly nothing the whole game against a combo deck.
The aggro decks are too good in the cube. World class players playing against equal competition routinely force them and have outstanding win percentages. The threats are just much too powerful and mana efficient and make other win cons seem quaint.