Why Nikola Jokić is the best basketball player in the world, LeBron should retire | NBA | THE HERD
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- The Denver Nuggets took care of some late spring cleaning, sweeping the Los Angeles Lakers out of the playoffs with a 113-110 Game 4 win. Nikola Jokić finished with 30 points, 14 rebounds and 13 assists. He was also named the Magic Johnson Western Conference finals MVP. Colin Cowherd reacts to the Nuggets advancing to the NBA Finals, then explains why Joker is the best player in the world. Meanwhile, LeBron James hinted at retirement in his postgame interview, saying that he's 'got a lot to think about.' He finished with 40 points despite a tough loss. However, is it time to hang up the sneakers despite aiming to play with his son? Colin discusses why this offseason is the perfect time to retire.
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Stephs the biggest tb draw?? 😂😂😂 gsw v bos was one of the lowest rated finals in history. Steph and lebron have take a flame thrower to the NBAs fan base and ratings
I know what's wrong with Nick Wright, his take on Jokić. Dude is being made out to look like a straight clown by Jokić
Jokic is a genius. Generational talent. The world is finally waking up to this.
Or he’s finally turned super saiyan and we are noticing at the perfect time ? 🤔
No one was watching Denver before. That's the beauty of playoffs. They allow the best players to showcase their talents on a national stage. Jokic is shining. I'm happy for his success. The biased media hacks can't spin their nonsense anymore because we've all seen how good Jokic is. I hope Nuggets can complete their mission with a ring.
@@deemurray5711 he's just not black so the blacks didn't want to give him credit but now they are forced to.
Probably the most unorthodox athlete I’ve ever seen and I love it.
@@deemurray5711 he has been playing like this the last 3 years, theres a reason why he won 2 mvps, and should have won the third. Jokic is the most complete offensive basketball center in the history of the game.
What makes this segment hilarious is that Colin literally had never seen Jokic play before this series
Haha
It's actually true, if you watch back Colin's show he was trashing and playing down Jokic hard last few years, especially when Jokic won MVPs and when he was selected for 1st team All-NBA he was trashing Jokic hard and said he only got MVPs and All-NBA team selection because of stats that don't show the full picture because Jokic is not that good and is highly overrated because of stats. He never even had him in his top 5 list of best players. He never watched him play regularly and what all he does for Nuggets since Murray is a 3rd option player in regular season and always injured
Calls himself a sports journalist
Honestly . Watching undisputed and this show and Stephen A smith . Makes me think I can accomplish anything in life if these clowns can have there own sports talk shows . NONE of them will ever admit to having a wrong opinion .
Eisen is better than all of them. Colin is not conversational. He just repeats talking points
jokic does this for 3 years straight and now people are acting like he just started doing this
Exactly.
I criticize jokic and that was because to me , he falter when it matters, it's like imbide I don't jump ship I stand by my opinion
I criticize jokic and that was because to me , he falter when it matters, it's like imbide I don't jump ship I stand by my opinion
I criticize jokic and that was because to me , he falter when it matters, it's like imbide I don't jump ship I stand by my opinion
I criticize jokic and that was because to me , he falter when it matters, it's like imbide I don't jump ship I stand by my opinion
The no ego thing gets talked about a lot, but not really in the context of what it does for the team. Jokic can be the undisputed best player on the court without making his teammates feel like role players. A guy like Murray doesn't randomly go off for a 20 point 4th quarter or a 30 point first half without Jokic being humble and telling reporters Murray is the best player on the team. There's a lot to be said for being the best player in the world and having guys want to play with you - not because they're piggy backing to a chip, but because they're having fun.
I remember when Colin said the league was ready to move off of lebron and it was for Ben Simmons lol
Up there with skip bailed Johnny manziel take as the worst takes in recent memory
😂😂😂
Steph does get better ratings then lebron tbf
do u remember last week when colin said AD was gonna put on a clinic against jokic lol
Took the words out of my mouth. I never forgot that Ben Simmons take lol
Atleast Colin had the awareness & decency to lead with Jokic & the Nuggets. Unlike the rest of the media's coverage of Denver sweeping the Lakers.
Jokic is the Bird of this generation, more so than Luka. Both are big men who are great passers, shooters, rebounders and make their teammates better. Should have had his 3rd MVP in a row. Watching Jokic highlights is like watching prime Bird.
why, because they white?
Cant be compared to Bird because Bird was good on Defense. Niether Luka or Jokic are good on Defense.
@@killakam8738 True. Bird's my all-time favorite player. I should have been more precise with my words. He closely resembles Bird...due to his offensive prowess, stature, and lack of top-tier athleticism. Bird did it on both sides of the court, though. And did it at a high level, mostly playing on a bad back. But make no mistake, I'd definitely take Bird over either or both of them
Joker is the Bird + 3" and 40lbs.
@@killakam8738 Right... Jokic had two blocks and 1 steal in game 4.
Everybody knows he won't retire. He wants a retirement tour and to play w his son.
Tyson Fury & Nikola Jokić are the most unathletic, but DOMINANT IN THEIR SPORTS!! Legends💪🏾
Love that comp… Jokic gotta close the deal now💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Jokic is athletic. He's just not fast.
Jokic is top 10 in running in NBA(no 9), all others are pg, and he is only C
He is slow footed, but is actually quick if that makes sense
Jokic regularly out runs centers at full sprint, he’s athletic
Wasn’t Colin the one who said AD is the best player in the conference finals for both west and east both the series started???
Yes, he likes to flip flop his opinions daily
Whichever way the wind is blowing
It turns out you can change your opinion when presented to new evidence. It’s kinda common, unless ur stubborn and just stick to takes regardless of what happens on the floor
@@rayreese8924 you're a liberal and i love it!
You should know how’s these shows work. Heat of the moment type takes
Nicola jokic is a great player and very humble to boot. Gotta love Nicola.
"Lbj is bigger and stronger, does almost everything better than michael"
Really? That doesnt sound right. I remember the bulls full court pressing defence, crazy steals, and unlimited energy in 4th quarter.
Colin hates MJ that’s nothing new
MJ has like 2x as many all defensive teams lol
Do you think bulls will win in this era heheeheh
Lol you used a team example to try debunk an individual premise
Jordan never guarded anyone like Rose though. He's still that guy and I wouldn't say Bron's better at everything by any stretch. That said his average career defensive rating matched what mj had the yr he won dpoy
Michael Jordan is the best ever. That hasn’t changed.
He said Jordan only beats Lebron in scoring 😂. Jordan literally better than Lebron at everything except passing and I guess rebounding
Michael Jordan took a year off which I don’t count that I don’t penalize him for that because y’all are hoes lmao
@@Domo3d MJ averaged 1 less rebound a game for his career and he is a guard. For their positions Jordan is actually better at rebounding. No one thinks 9 rebounds a game as a center would be better than these 2 on the glass....
Jordan is the Greatest ever...there is a difference
@JCtheSupreme. Jordan is the greatest AND best player to ever play. You pedantic pedant. Take away off the court accolades and Jordan is the better player that you want on the court to win the basketball tournament. No other player comes close to a serious consideration.
As a warriors fan, I fully believe that Nikola Jokić and the Nuggets have a chance to dominate the league for the next 5 years plus! Murray, MPJ, KCP and Gordon are all locked up for the long term and they’ve shown that they are by far the best starting 5 and the second best isn’t even close! ❤
As a Nuggets fan, I don't think so. We'd be fortunate to win ONE championship. Too many things have to go right, especially with injuries.
With the constant movement of players and the construction of "super teams", the chances of a (mostly) homegrown championship team is a thing of the past.
Look at your Warriors. Without KD, they don't repeat. And let's be honest. Last year, the Nuggets weren't healthy. Otherwise, the Warriors may not have raised the trophy.
A warriors fan having a bad take. Classic.
MPJ,Jokic and Murray is a nice core to have for a dynasty but you have to factor in injuries and competition and also luck because you can make the finals and lose it event you have a great team! let's wait and see how this goes.
@@josephramone5805 this nuggets team have a chance to make a major run in the next 3 years. They need to stay healthy, that's a major concern, but they have the best starting five of the league, by far. There major concern is their bench. Outside of bruce brown, they don't have reliable rotation players. They will need to improve that this offseason, and if they win the championship, there will be players wanting to get a ring playing for them. They can also improve getting good rookies.
I said the exact same Thang and I'm warriors fan from Alabama
Joker has basketball fundamentals. Most NBA players grew up dunking only.
Jokic should have been an NFL QB. The way he throws the basketball across the court to a moving target on a string. The way he commands the field with perfect calm. The utter selflessness. A supreme student of the game. Otherworldly stamina to play every minute of the game charging up and down the court. The Joker could have been an all time great NFL QB.
If Jokic losses in finals Collin will say he is not top 10 player in nba 😂
He is the best big I’ve seen as a fan of Basketball since Dave Bing was playing. Larry Brown was coaching in Denver when i became a Nugget fan. Jokic will be recognized as a revolutionary savant @ center. Nice you’ve joined the party
41 player's drafted ahead of JOKER is just crazy. He is in a league of his own!!! 😎
Colin is the definition of a front runner.
bingo
Actually @nickwright is
@@nathCO3023 both are lol
@@nathCO3023Yes the man who picked the 8th seeded Heat and 7th seeded Lakers is a frontrunner 😒
"Cheesy retirement tour?" Ya that's been his style.
Kobe had one
Kobe had on off the hype of Derek jeter one. Lebron going to go out the same
Nobody is a prisoner of the moment like Colin🙄(this isn't Jokic shade)
Almost like it’s a daily sports show. People always act like they don’t know sports media. It’s been like this in every era of media, their always going to report on the current trends.
its better than to be a prisonner of the past. lebron fan boy still crying😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@johnnydkota5709 Sure but just because it's always been like this, doesn't mean it's fine... Also, I think there's a difference between flowing with current trends and saying stuff that directly contradicts something else you said a week earlier.
@@cugzido12 That’s everyone though. I’m not excusing it, we all see new information and and change our opinion based on the what we’re watching. Sports is constantly changing and I would rather have a person change their opinion than to been stubborn and make their arguments in bad faith. (Skip bayliss)
@@johnnydkota5709 Fair!! I definitely don't disagree with you at all on that front but I think I'd just like a LITTLE bit more accountability. At the end of the day, they're meant to be the people who 'know more' than the average person so it's probably unreasonable/unrealistic of me to expect accountability because it may be bad for their brands. But sometimes it doesn't feel like they're changing their opinions because of new information but more as if they're acting like this was their opinion the whole time. That's what bothers me a little.
So I guess the media is going to forget how bad LeFumble was down the stretch this series
G1: Less than 1 min left and bricks a 3 and the nuggets win
G2: Missed multiple open layups and a free dunk, then missed the layup late to make it 2 and got the ball stolen to seal the game
G3: whole team collapsed down the stretch
G4: horribly missed with under a minute left and then later had 4 seconds to tie the game off the inbound and couldn’t even get a shot off
HE WILL NEVER BE JORDAN, he doesn’t have the mentality
Not even Jordan will ever be Jordan and Joker is not using abuse to get the team to work without ego, but leads by example!
Lebomb
That's what make jokic special "Same guy shows up every njght"🏀💯
Nikola Jovic not only great, he makes everyone around him better. He raises their level of play. Plus, as stated, he is not an ego driven player....he's a wins driven player.
Nah he's still just a rookie in Miami, but hopefully he'll get there as well as *Jokic*
wrong Nikola buddy
As a nuggets fan, the biggest thing worrying me is that the media is starting to pick the nuggets, and the media is always wrong
Who is “the media”? Is there some type of stat somewhere that keeps track of every single NBA media persons’ opinion on how a series is gonna go? Or this is just your general feeling based on what you’ve heard from whoever you’ve listened to in the media?
Colin mentioned the 3 bigs that could lead a break. Wilt led the league in assists. Dream could actually shoot but it was frowned upon for a guy with his post skills. I'm convinced Colin just let's words fall out of his mouth
Loved the show
LeBron is not a better defender than MJ … and if MJ played in this pace and space non hand check era than I’m confident MJ would have even greater numbers probably something like 35 8 & 8 as career averages
The leagues talent is better and faster now than when Jordan played. It's not even close
@@BabaYagaRacing that don’t mean Jordan would not dominate… players these days are definitely more skilled & talented but that’s all on the offensive end … this era has not produced a defensive mindset or any schemes that would lend anybody to stopping anybody especially Jordan.
Jokic the best teammate a hooper could ask for
Prisoner of the moment Cowherd
Nicely said!
As a 76ers fan who have Embiid, I agree. Jokic is huge. He makes other massive players look SMALL. THE GUY'S A MONSTER!!
Thing is the NBA doesnt want Jokic to be the star because he isnt marketable. He is a beast though
LeRoids chasing stats while the other greats chased championships.
If you genuinely think Lebron doesn’t want and go after rings you’re an idiot. And what does “chasing stats” even mean? Is he supposed to just… not score?
How is lebron chasing stats if literally just got to the conference finals trying to get a ring lol are you slow or what ?
Thanks Colin
A Triple double machine at 7ft, that's insane,Jokic is a 1st ballot hall of famer and he still has alot of basketball to play, hopefully he stays healthy,, Joker Rules 👑
Clean break? The dude got swept!! I swear they pander too much to Lebron. Jordan when he was with the Wizards was not about competing anymore, it was more to market the team more than anything.
Good take, Colin 💯
What a great view!
Wade & Bosh did not shrink.?. They helped make James better. It made for a good sound-bite but it was way off the mark.
Lots of great points, but [can't-unsee below break]
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You might want to reposition the mic to cast a less suggestively shaped shadow. ;) Unless it's on purpose, in which case 10/10 troll.
Jokic is who Luka was supposed to be
Jokic is the greatest player of all time.
Yo CC pump the breaks with comparing Jokic to TD, he has a long way to go to get to that comparison.
Jokic needs to play defense like Duncan before we even say their names in the same sentence.
Such a solid cogent piece
First off, Brons not retiring yet. He has always said he wants to play with his son before he does. If anything, he will retire temporarily and come back when bronny gets to the league and sign with whatever team he's on.
Jokic is a sensational defender... my god.. stop talking about basketball if you don't understand what happens on the floor.. defending isnt about just blocking shots... my god
He's bigger and stronger but averages less Steals and gets as many blocks
Nice words about Joker.
You forgot about Hakeem Olajuwon who won a ring without an All Star...
With Nikola Jokić Denver could win a couple of rings‘s. And Phoenix should feel better about their season after seeing how Denver plowed through the Lakers.
Suns were favored to win the West before playoffs and favored to win the series vs nuggets, Lakers were a 7 seed not close to favored to win West or win WCF.
@@superdopehiphop those are facts. however, the truth is the emotionally brittle Durant hasn’t done much in the playoffs since leaving Golden State.
@@oceanblue22 I would say the last 2 years he hasn’t, but to his credit in 2021 playoffs he was AMAZING and lost to Bucks in Game 7 of ECSF with Harden/Kyrie hurt on and off all series.
Denver winning this year’s ring is the best thing that could happen to basketball right now, before the all star break nobody feared this cohesive unit with one of the most talented and unselfish big man that NBA has seen.
AD is the most undeserving "top-75" player on the list
Wow Impressive Insight….where have you been the past THREE YEARS on this?
Aren't you the guy who said the Nuggets are boring? By the way the Nuggets have defensive reinforcements coming next year, Payton Watson and Ishmael Kamagate.
LeBron has said constantly that he wants to try to play with his son. Why would he retire now 1 year before he has an opportunity to do that?
Maybe he came to the realization that it would do more harm than good for Bronny.
@@Buggsiess do more harm? Damn if you don't like the dude just say that
He might want to go down in a blaze of glory. It's very unlikely he will able to deliver again 40 pt game where he played 47 min 55s, especially if he undergoes foot surgery. It's actually pretty good moment to retire, if you ask me.
click bait and deflecting away from that sweep lol
@@StevenTorres.NYC-CA What does that have to do with liking him lol. Colin touched on my point in the video if you watch
He a Serb. That why he so good.
Colin is the only guy who actually 'gets' Jokic and gives him his respect, respect.
Yes,but now when he won
No one could beat him in a one on one.
Why would he retire they just went to the Western conference final and it wasn't like they got blown out in the games?
They were by and large completely healthy. LeBron, AD, the role players. Everyone played in the postseason, and they still didn’t make the Finals. Whose to say that will be true next season? This was as good as any shot they had to win a championship, and he’s only going to decline further.
@@TheOrderofDylan Not if they get another superstar!
This man's a genius. I'm glad they are giving him his flowers.
3:19 Everything's clunky with the Wizards.
Looks like an exhausted Elk running down the court. Looks so awkward at times. But he has amazing skills
Denvers win is so satisfying and proves that you can win without forming superteams, manipulating the system to stack the deck in your favor, and having faith in your team, with the organization instead of taking multiple shortcuts. Pundits wonder why Lebron gets so much hate inspite of what he has accomplished. Well this iDenver win right here is something that Lebron will never have.
Jokic is the best offensive big man since shaq
Interesting, how it seems to me that you have been underestimating this guy for a good while now. The difference between this year and last, is a healthy Jamal Murray. The narratives run strong in NBA fans, and without a 2nd or 3rd player to take the heat off, it's tough.
The hate for the Kobe’s end of career tour is real.
All i have to say is THANK YOU, you are one of the rare journalists who is talking the truth, all other media still talk about lakers and Lebron and i'm like dude WHAT THE HECK?
Keep it up and you will get a lot of praise from fans
Yeah Colin...you just finding this out?...mans been the best player in the world for 3/4 years now...dude was robbed of the MVP this year...joker been that dude...but Colin and the American media never gives him credit because he European...joker winning the chip🎉
Honestly for the Lakers franchise? I think Bron should just go up on the podium Magic style and announce his retirement.
I think it's time for Bron to go.
People overjoyed & delirious at 38-year-old LeBron being swept. The current LeBron is expected to score 30+ points AND guard Jokic on a bad foot. No Athlete gets held to a ridiculously higher standard.
Kobe was out of the league at 38. Jordan was overweight chucker on a lottery team at 38.
I was listening to Mark Jackson and SVG last night saying that he needed to continue attacking the post while also guarding Jokic or Murray on the other side and I was asking myself shouldn't AD do that?
@@jdelgado216facts
@@leyere1686 Kobe played out West his entire career & never load managed. It was far more competitive & physically demanding then the weak East with a stacked team. MJ played during the most physical era in NBA history. The had shorter all-star breaks, more back to backs, and didn't have anything close to the medical advances available to players like Lebron.
@@jdelgado216bruh I asked myself that so many times
Jokic rules the game at the moment. Amen
"they need a little depth on the bench" also..."they're a better deeper team". Wtf 🤦🏻
Has Colin been under a rock? Bronny has been compared to Bron since middle school 😂
Davis is a power forward, a big wing really who does not like to post. Jokic is a center / point guard. He is combo Magic J and Larry Bird but he's 6' 11" and 280 and in great shape. I can't even compare AD to him for real.
Does Cowherd know Aaron Gordon? He’s pretty good defender to say the least.
Jokic just might be a future GOAT center, that or AD was massively exposed.
Would this convo be happening if Joker had all these stats and still lost the series?
Doubt Wemby will reach Jokic’s impact on the game as a whole.
🎯
The facvt people are still talking about Leflop when a guy like this is playing is crazy to me.
Also it’s a bit weird Colin being in la is so ready for this lakers team to be irrelevant again? Given what he said about the Knicks being good is great for basketball doesn’t make sense why he’d want the lakers to be bad unless he really doesn’t want to back off his Antonio take
I don't like how Cowherd keeps talking about European basketball being selfless. Jokic is a great talent but his approach to the game is not really much different from Lebron and Magic, two great non-European talents.
If Lebron played for vet minimum, he could win. I'm not a lebron fan at all, but I think he should consider it if he feels okay with it.
Jimmy Butler may have something to say about this.
AD? Adrian Dantley is still playing?
That's gold!
Imagine Jokic and Curry in same team. Sheesh
We've been waiting for the king to retire for 20 years now and he's long overdue because we're sick of him...
Speak for yourself
I love Jokic and his game, that all star talk would be a disservice to jamaal Murray who is an all star talent and who avg 30 last series
Murray is Superstar talent in playoffs
@@patrick553 exactly and this isn’t the first time he’s doing this, last time he was healthy and they got to the wCF he was one again in that realm
Jokic is Yt so he will get all the credit even thou Murray is the one that was closing the Lakers out
@@Judahscattered4corners-ms4lm well that’s probably not it 😂
@chriscollins7309 Yeah what am I thinking 😂😂 A dude that's been to the finals 1 time is the best in the league now😂😂 Real hoopers and watchers are not fallin for the "the great white hype"
Jokic top 5 off all the once everything set and done
Joel Embid should do the right things and give back MVP to jokic
Lebron probably wants Harden, Westbrook and Kyrie or he's retiring lmao. 😂😂
Yes! He is the one, the " annointed" one!
A rare breed! So skilled in his craft! Can do everything!
One of a kind!
When Wilt won a title with Philadelphia, who was the other all-star on his team?
Billy Cunningham
I think it's a tie between him and gi right now. I think they are both leagues above everyone. I wouldn't argue if anyone says jokic. I just respect defense
LeBron tried to change the story from getting swept to I might retire, when everyone knows he's not going to retire but the media just ran with it.
And that's why this segment is all about LeBron and not about Denver
Its gotten so hard to listen to colin. He flips every other segment.
Im not crowning anybody a goat center or player until you lead your team to multiple championships. Then we can talk. These days people crown too early and it always never comes into fruition. We will see! As of now he's a good player.