Not only that, but it also was a draft for the UK's "Bill of Rights" after the Glorious Revolution when the Netherlands conquered the United Kingdom with the conscent of the UK citizens. The Bill of Rights is signed ~100 years after the Dutch Act of Abjuration (Acte van Verlatinghe). The US decleration of independence is ~100 years after the Bill of Rights was signed. It's almost as if it was all planned.
@@NLTops Where do the differences come in though? We have (had) a lot of constitutional similarities as well, including being allowed to have firearms until after WW1. The Pilgrim Fathers were driven out of the UK and came to the Netherlands because they were free here (due to the Enlightenment here) and settled in Leiden before a group (not all) of them set sail to the new world. Taken with them the lessons learned here. Of course there will be a few things on how not to do it, but the vast majority of the Dutch concepts have been taken over. Free trade, stock exchange, freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom to carry arms (revoked in NL after WW1), democracy, capitalism, polder model. While things have certainly been tweaked, the USA in its foundations is unmistakably of Dutch origin.
nobody: "..." The Dutch from the 16 to 19th century: "money time" The british: "wait that's illegal" The Dutch from the 16 to 19th century: "NEUTRAL money time"
Actually the Dutch were nowhere near neutral in the 16th to 18th century. In the 1700's they took a leading role by conquering England in 1688 and defeating the French in the forty years war (1672-1712).
Dont forgot the voc which attacked other countries but was technically a independent organization so the Netherlands technically wasnt responsible eventhough they controlled it :D Neutral loopholes !
@@mauricebenink The VOC still got orders from patria, so the Dutch were actually responsible for the VOC. The VOC also made sure to not upset countries when they could not use tensions at patria. Except for the Portuguese holdings.
@@Limmitless thats how we used to be. Now look at that empty head in charge of our country and how everyone is blindly following the fool. We have changed unfortunately
Yeah, that's why absolutely no one ever used non-effective masks and "va¢¢ines" when the government told them so lol. I wish people still had that attitude!
I'm Dutch, and I knew that the Netherlands had some part, but I honestly never knew it was this big. I loved the part where Johannes de Graaff answered the salute shot with 11 shots, acknowledging the independent nation. Just considering his position, being sent there because the previous ruler would side against Britain, and what could've happened if it didn't work out as planned, I think it was a very powerful thing to do.
@@GeorgeSaint666 Marine Corp a Dutch invention? That's not what I was taught in history tbh. I was always taught that the first "marines" were the Spanish :/
This is still how the dutch work. Government well its technically not allowed but we do it any way ( weed ) France stop selling weed to our poeple. The dutch sure ( 1 year later ) well we still do it any way
het loopt de spuigaten uit met al die zegswijzen maar je hebt je op de valreep gered. anders sleep je die schuld mee in je kielzog en is het alle hens aan dek om ermee in het reine te komen. Wanneer je je innerlijke rust eindelijk hebt gevonden krijg je alle wind in de zeilen.
@@gingfreecss3467 stem tegen dat soort intolerante lanterfanters en zeker tegen mannen zoals thierry. als je nederlande glorie terug wil moet je een tolerante regerimg hebben zoals ook toen al het geval was en juist de arbeid en kennis van migranten waarderen.
As a Dutch person this was an interesting watch. I think the line "Whatever the motivation was, the US will always be grateful for their support." is wonderful. Especially as we have the same gratitude for the US' liberation efforts in WW2. Intentions matter, but actions matter for. There exist terrible actions based on good intentions and laudable actions based on self-interest.
@@niatscreations4913 Colonialism is oppressive and you want spoils of war when we barely contributed to it (at least in the European theater)? And since we promised Indonesia independence if they fought along the Dutch, I believe it's only fair that we kept our word. So yes. Grateful for being liberated from foreign occupation is plenty by my book.
It is a shame though we traded NYC for the Surinames back then. As it also became THIS close for Dutch to have become the official language to be spoken in the North American colonies. So the most spoken second language in the world these days may have been Dutch,... instead of english. And we would have been surfing "het Wereld Wijde Web" instead of "the World Wide Web". ;-D
@@ThirdGradeProductions I hope you read all of this so as to not make it a waste of my time. You should really try to read the context in which things are said. It was a response to someone who was angry we lost colonies post-WW2 (which, surprise, so did everyone else) and wanted Germany to give us part of the Ruhr as compensation when reparations in the Versailles Treaty is arguably the biggest factor as to why WW2 happened. Now that's out of the way, let's talk specifics. First off, I mentioned the Asian Theater already. Our influence there was far more significant, and so was the human cost there compared to the European Theater. Volunteer forces. Yes, a single Dutch Brigade fought under Canadian command at D-Day, and later moved inland under Brittish command. It was roughly 2.000 man strong and it had been trained in the UK, with British/US supplies. The Dutch also fought at Dunkirk, but again, it was a relatively insignificant force. Whereas the guy I was responding to tried to make it sound like we were one of the major players in the European Theater and deserve some kind of reward. Resistance. Yes, a significant part of the Dutch population passively or actively resisted German occupation. Activities like espionage and sabotage, which happened far less than hiding people or civic disobedience, did help the war effort. Most notably, had the Brits listened to the advice of Dutch Resistance cells, the utter disaster that was Market Garden wouldn't have been greenlit. On the other side of the coin, many Dutch people also joined the NSB or the Waffen-SS. Resistance or treachery isn't exactly a policy decision, but rather an individual one. There wasn't a country in occupied Europe where either didn't occur. And again, it was said within the context of the arguement of the person I'm responding to. Resistance isn't some kind of accomplishment that earns us some German territory after its defeat. These were regular people fighting for their freedom, their lives and their way of life. As for the human cost, I refer you to this aggregate of information, it's an interactive video worth watching in its entirity: www.fallen.io/ww2/# Here's a summary of the moments that show Dutch deaths. The interactive video talks about the European theater and the Pacific Theater seperately. Points relating to the Netherlands (European Theater): 3:44 shows the Dutch (military) death toll in the invasion, 7:58 shows the Dutch Jewish deaths, 11:02 shows all civilian deaths including the Jewish deaths. Points relating to the Netherlands (Pacific Theater): 12:00 shows all military and civilian Deaths in the Pacific Theater. This is where the majority of "Dutch" deaths happened. As in the European theater, the majority of them were civilians dying from starvation, disease, bombings and executions. And I put Dutch in quotes because many of them were in actual fact Indonesians living under Dutch rule. The US on the other hand had no significant civilian loss of life. Crews of merchant shipping and that's about it. The majority of US Deaths were military, and the majority of them were in Europe. So saying "we had the same amount of deaths" is a bit of a simplification. Since most of their deaths were soldiers trying to liberate Europe and defeat Germany, and most of our deaths were Indonesian civilians after we failed to keep the Japanese out with our relatively small military. So no, I'm not saying we just laid down and took it. I'm saying the loss of life under our flag were mostly non-Dutch SUBJECTS and complaining about reparations (when WW2 itself was a lesson on how horribly reparations can backfire) and the end of collonialism (due to every major power in the world being too financially, militarily and mentally exhausted to maintain control over their unwilling subjects whom they had often promised freedom for their help), is utterly ridiculous. And if you recall, my original point was entirely different. It was that I, and many other Dutch people, have a sense of gratitude towards the US (and the other Allies) for our liberation from German occupation. It wasn't a selfless act, heck, they had to get to Berlin somehow. But it still helped us be an independent country today. To which he basically begrudgingly replied "But we didn't get the Dutch East Indies back and the Allies didn't let us have part of Germany.". When we promised Indonesians independence if they helped us against the Japanese and we were a small drop in the wave that toppled Germany. So in the future, please keep in mind the context in which things are said. They are the best indication of what the point behind what someone says is. Don't just draw your own assumptions and talk down to them. Heck, if you can't figure it out from context, just ask. Because If I have to go over the entire 2nd World War every time I make a counter arguement against someone saying ridiculous things about it, I will be typing until I'm 80.
Wow, i never knew about this, i'm from the Netherlands and i always like hearing about our history, and to know that we contributed to the existence of America is pretty cool. Good content, surprised to see you're not getting more views man. Keep it up!
The first ambassador of the US in the Netherlands was also the first outside the US. The dutch did a lot in History in the world that many people doesn't know. The dutch where also the second country in the world after France that recognized the US as a country of their own..
Not completely true the first goverment that agreed that the Americans has the right too be free too control their own future and the right too be a indenpendence nation is the goverment of Friesland one off the seven provences off the republic off the Netherlands before France
@@crazydutchman7094 a lot of parties were involved in liberating the Netherlands, but as usual the only thing you'll hear is USA USA USA WE FREED YOU, WE NO ONE ELSE, kinda sad tbh
yes. my family also came from Zeeland ( and Brabant/Ghent/Antwerp) and were related to VOC/WIC merchants and were able to leave NL because of Spanish inquisition.Came to new amsterdam (NYC) in 1620 and married daughter off to WIC Governor of new amsterdam. Settled in New Jersey with other dutch families in 1750's and because of strategic location George Washington kept his troops on their farm and other dutch families for most of revolution. they helped get contraband from dutch merchant relatives through curacao mainly. spoke dutch dialect until 1930s. over 300 years stayed insular- marry primarily in dutch reform church.
at the start of WW2, the Dutch still had the 2nd largest fleet of merchant vessels in the world and 70% of all oil used as fuel by the allies came from curacao
I'm Dutch and I like this story. It looks like it was well researched. Small in size, great in deeds. I'm talking about The Netherlands here not something else.....
@@eelkesneijders6180 It'd be quite the change, yes, and all change comes with chaos. But in the end it would do our country a lot of good! We'd also save millions that now go to the EU. It could also convince more countries to leave the EU and then things can go back to normal more and more. The way I see it, it's the only road to a good future.
History always repeats itself. In this case with a window of about 200 years. The US Declaration of Independence (1776) was in part, based on the Akte der Verlatinghe (1581). It, in turn, was partly inspired by the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath (1320). Instead of looking at this as a competition, I find it very interesting to see the evolution between these three documents and the views they represent at the time.
As a dutchman I can confirm that we (from my experience) don't care. We don't care where you're from We don't care about your sexual orïentation We don't care about your skin colour We don't care about you upholding your traditions (as long as they don't violate any laws) Just try to get allong with us and we will do our best to return the favor.
@@napoleon950 - Those views were really handy when they persecuted Catholics in the Malaccas and other places. Read - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Church_(Melaka)
your country gave up ww2 and made weapons because hitler commanded ''your country'' is and will never be powerful your country literally is called land traitor i wouldn’t be proud of that.
@@sarahawow2093 okay.. first things first! “Nether” means Low (Low lands) 2: we only made weapons because our families were held at gunpoint. It wasn’t like they had a choice. Of course there were some rotten apples but every nation got that. And that brings me to part 3 Literally EVERY COUNTRY has a Dark chapter in their history. And NO I don’t support every thing that has happened in the past. So in general.. yes i’m proud. But where are your from?
@@Jari-95 oh and don’t forget that the Dutch people used to snitch on jews were they lived or hided not only are the dutch land traitors but that are also snitches
@@sarahawow2093 Stalin let his people starve to the point of cannibalism! And Putin is supplying every terrorist group in the world with weapons. There were even more people who helped jews then snitch on them! Start criticizing your own country first!! 🤣 Damn your stupid! By the way: Fun fact Peter the Great colored his flag in the colors in the red white and blue in honor of the country that helped him realize a navy… A.K.A. THE NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
One of the reasons my country became so influential is because we figured out how to use windmills to saw wood greatly increasing the speed with which we could create ships from wood.
I guess trade has always been the basis of the Netherlands economy. Trade came before religion, culture, nationality, etc. Even now, learning a second language is mandatory in the school system. The Netherlands is the 2nd biggest food export market in the world, after the U.S. Also they pritty much never let anyone tell them what to do or how to do it in trade, hence they are called stubborn. Can the Dutch be proud of their global achievements? I think yes, absolutely. Although it must be said they did not always make money in the nicest ways, slave trade and smuggeling. But at that time, almost every trade country did. The Dutch however did it from one of the smallest countries in Europe, about 17 Million inhabitants today. From that point of view i say yes, its an achievement. There are cities in this world that have more inhabitants.
at that time, slaves were just another item to be sold if it comes to slavery, the only guilty person is the consumer, if there is or was no demand for people to work for free, the Dutch wouldn't have a reason to 'transport' them to their destination... This principle stayed the same, no demand, and no'1 will care to make it
Dont start about slave trade without knowing it. At the time most dutch themselves were pretty much slaves. Also you should look into the barbary slave trade and others.
It's also the reason why the Dutch were allowed to keep a trading post in Japan, when all other Europeans were kicked out. The Dutch were the only ones that had just been honest traders, while the British, French, Spanish, had all tried to convert the Japanese to various forms of Christianity. This had led to peasant uprisings in Japan, and was one of the main reasons to kick all other Europeans out.
"The US will always be grateful" Hahaha they don't even know about it, come on. Like a common Dutch person anywhere, knowing the Canadians liberated the Netherlands in 1945. A common American person has no clue how the Dutch helped the US at it's infancy or that they did at all play a role. Edit : Rereading it and seeing the comments on it, I realize it can be interpreted as if I'm saying that the Dutch don't know who liberated them in 1945. Let me correct that, we commemorate the offers the many allies brought to give us back our freedom, every year on May 4th. The Canadians hold a special place in our hearts at that. Every Dutch knows why. Every single one of us. Canadians are forever welcome among the Dutch.
Ofcourse we know that we are liberated by the USA, Canada, UK and Poland... Yes parts of The Netherlands are liberated by the Polish division of General Maczek.
It's a fascinating bit of history that most Dutch and American people are unaware of. I am currently reading the book and have lived on St Eustatius (locally called "Statia") for four years. The First Salute is still celebrated there each year as "Statia Day".
Just a few fun facts: The airport on the St. Eustatius is named the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Airport in commemoration of the president's visit and acknowledgement. The story of the Dutch island's role in the US war for independence from the British been immortalised in the lyrics of the national anthem of the island.
Barbara Tuchman's "The First Salute (1988)" Great read (non-fiction). I never knew it was her last work. She died in 1989. Only read it once but the things I still remember: Saint Eustatius was simply known as "Statia" to most sailors. Tuchman wrote battle accounts that made you feel you were in a movie. "Give them powder!" (fire) "Give them steel!" (bayonet charge!) Yet she also wrote about the illustrious English fighting units sent to fight the American rebels, the British units which would hundreds years later, become famous again in their battles during World War II *fighting together* with their American Brothers in Arms.
@@AudieHolland thank you! As an American I’ve heard the war told from our point of view my entire life. It was really interesting reading it from such a different perspective which is what made me dive in a little deeper to make this video.
@@Bananaman-hk6qw New Belgium existed near new Netherlands in the USA before the English came. A lot of protestant Belgians came to America because of the inquisition by the catholics in that period of times. Has to do with religion.
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Really cool, I am surprised Statia does not get more visitors from the States, that salute story is legendary . Most Americans visit neigbouring Sint Maarten by cruiseship and miss out on this historical little island.
@Intuition and what you get in return are everything you see around you in Zuid holland. A governement gets taxes and other income and allocates this to, for.example, infrastructure, healthcare education. That beeing said, im not a fan of rutten, and no im also not a wilders voter.
@Intuition Good luck with your bins. British infrastructure is ridiculous and there's a river flooding pretty much every year. What we get in return for our taxes in the Netherlands is the 3rd best infrastructure in the world and a magnificent system of flood protection. And both of them are crucial to support our economy, which is the 4th most competitive in the world. We also get affordable and high quality education as well as healthcare. Taxes in the Netherlands are spent much better than in almost any other country.
the Dutch had invented the windmill and use it to saw logs to planks for shipbuilding faster as any other could and since it's not an isle it had limitless acces to the special parts of oaktrees where the thick old branches root, these were nessesary for shipbuilding as they could only support the vessels decks, it was only when british engeneers come up with a load bearing sullution when they could start playing catch up, by then the Dutch had taken the seatrade with their many ships,.. or so I've summarized as a Dutchman learning about our history,..
Actually we didnt invent the windmill, they were pretty common across all of western europe, same with wooden shoes and dikes and everything else that is now considered dutch cultural heritage. Thats mostly due to succesful marketing and tourism advertisement and the fact that we built a lot of windmills.
And when the narrator started talking about the Boston Tea Party, at that moment Abigail yelled to Ichabod "CRANEE!!! what do you know about this?" Well, Miss Mills.... I accidently started it...
Also do not forget the simiarities between the Netherlands and the USA. Sum it up: Freedom! (To make money) Freedom! (Of religion) Freedom! (From oppression) But we also have some differences Like freedom from want And freedom from fear
stumbled across this video and channel by accident. glad I did. As an expat living in Amsterdam, I’ve had 25+ years of experiencing firsthand the flaws and the joys of both cultures. these days I wish I could create a utopia and combine the two, picking the best traits from both. I’d start with a better public education system in the states & civics classes for all. And a healthy dose of debunking online disinformation for both countries
I am not at all impressed by the US education system, when compared to the Dutch one. What makes you think the US system is better? Citizenship education (maatschappijleer) has been a part of the Dutch curriculum since 1972 and civics (burgerschaponderwijs) since 2006. I know that when I was in my last year of Dutch high school in 1994, I looked into studying in the USA for a year. My SAT scores would have allowed me to skip the first year of US university. In the end I didn't go, because it would have marked me as a draft dodger. And don't get me started on the unequal financing of US public education.
@@rogerwilco2 You misunderstood my comment, or something I wrote wasn’t clear. I was agreeing with your opinions. the public education system in America is savagely underfunded and the civics classes are limited at best, and often use textbooks that, let’s just say, don’t reflect all of America’s history. Dutch high schools are far far better. I think the universities are good in both countries, the US has amazing schools for the arts, conservatories, etc. Anyway, hope I cleared that up.
I'm Dutch, but didn't know we were the first (by extention) to recognize the United States as a sovereign state. The other stuff sounds familliar. As long as money could be made, the Netherlands would trade and support efforts.
Ja, de geschiedenis van de Caribische eilanden, en andere voormalige coloniën wordt in Nederland niet echt verteld. Er zijn delen bij waar we als Nederland trost op kunnen zijn, en delen waar Nederland zich van haar slechtste kant heeft laten zien. Maar zeker voor de eilanden die nog steeds bij het koningkrijk horen, zou best iets meer aandacht mogen zijn. Zeker St. Eutatius en Curaçao hebben zelf een rijke geschiedenis.
As a Dutchman, this really surprised me. I never thought the Netherlands contributed THIS MUCH to the USA. This video feels like a big historical 'You're welcome' to the USA. Great video
The Dutch merchants and their american families contributed SO SO SO much to the founding of the USA. my family came 1620 to New Amsterdam from Zeeland. Dutch farm families (mine included) hosted and paid for George Washingtons troops during the revolution for several years and arranged contraband trade. dutch loan words still in american lexicon. cookie (koekje) stoop, sinder klaus etc. see my other posts on this thread.
Thank you for this video. Informative and maybe why I'm so invested in USA affairs as a Dutch person. I love the US of A but recently I've come to detest it as well. The US is straying off the path.
Hi there, there are still parts of New York(nieuw Amsterdam) that has Dutch names like Harlem(Haarlem), my city of birth! And also Brooklyn(Breuckelen).
8:25...why is that flag portrayed upside-down? (Orange at the bottom instead of the top) Does this mean anything or was it 'just a drunk painter not paying attention to his work'?
Thank you! It was free to use, from the time period, and sounds awesome lol. Though I did leave it open for interpretation. I did have the death / decline of the Netherlands as global power in mind though. Or the deaths & destruction that amounted in the wars that occurred as part of the revolution as a whole.
@@chupapi7620 yet we invented a lot like the beginning of wifi wich australia completed and a dutch guy invented bluetooth and another dutch guy the submarine and a dutch company philips invented the audiotape wich evolved into cd’s etc. and we are a big tech country also a large export country and we have pretty good schools so also good medical care etc.
@@chupapi7620 yes they were ancestors or long ago but we did it and that is something what helped now right.. america wouldn’t have had submarines is no one invented it.. no one would have wifi if australia never completed it and no one would have sht to listen to without any invention
As a Dutch citizen I find the foreign relations policy of my ancestors has been pretty much suicidal. The decline of the Dutch economy after the 4th Anglo-Dutch war essentially made the Netherlands a vassal of Great Britain. As Winston Churchill like to say about the Netherlands (and Denmark) "fat but toothless." But it hurt the balance of power in Europe as first France under Napoleon would just roll over the Netherlands and gained it's resources and manpower for his wars and later Germany without the Netherlands being able to do much about it as Great Brittain dreaded a powerful Netherlands and kept us "fat and toothless" as were they responsible for making the Netherlands a monarchy.
Nah, we just lived above our standing in the world. We were a small country that was really powerfull for a while but we could never have kept that up. We were just to small.
You had the *brand new* Blitzkrieg beaten in Afsluitdijk and the *brand new* Fallschirmjäger completely annihilated at Ypenburg. Moerdijk was right in the middle and was unfortunately lost. I don’t think you realize how many Wehrmacht Generals shit themselves.
I knew the French and Spanish assisted the fledgling USA in its fight against the oppressive English, but I was unfamiliar with the fact that the Netherlands played a major role as well. Whether their motivation was lining their own pockets or the fact that we shared a common enemy doesn't really matter. They assisted the USA in its time of need, and for that we are in your debt.
Thank you! I’ve thought about that! I’ve got quite a lot of studying to do before an India video though. I have little background knowledge on the country at the moment.
3:32... Darned. What was the name of the black man again that got shot during the Boston Massacre? It is on the tip of my tongue,... but I dont recall. He was the first to die. Wasnt he?
For the Louisiana purchase in 1803 the US borrowed five million dollars from Hope&co in the Netherlands and the wealthy Dutch could buy a share in this deal. The “Gemeente Amsterdam stadsarchief” (city archives) includes the Bank Mees&Hope archives, and has some original documents.
Excellent episode. Here's topic for a future episode: American Dutch settlers in the upper Hudson River Valley were subject to constant harassment by British subjects and their Indian allies from the New England Colonies; including forays into the Valley. My ancestors - the Tellers - and most other Dutch settlers kept to themselves after the English Crown became their new rulers. Obviously there was no love lost between the Dutch and the English in those early days of American history.
if only my history teacher back in 1986 told it this way history would have been a lot more interresting for me. Looking back I think he did okay for the time. BUt I never knew that the Dutch we the first nation to recongize the US. Lets do it again and recognize Taiwan as a country!! Bring back the V.O.C.! (but a bit more humane this time). Who cares about AliExpress. Taiwan has Acer, HTC and a huge chip factory the world needs. So there is profit there! Sorry I got carried away. Thank you for the nice video.
I appreciate the kind words! The United States recognized Taiwan at one time but eventually gave in and recognized China as the government of both, though the US still treats Taiwan as a sovereign country.
Ever wondered why there is KLM Asia (a subsidiary of Amsterdam-based KLM Royal Dutch Airlines)? As China doesn't allow KLM to fly into China if KLM would fly to Taiwan. The removal of the royal crown from its livery and the addition of the word 'Asia' was to appease mainland China authorities who still regard Taiwan as a part of China.
The Dutch also loaned the American ambassadors 1 million gulden to fund the war effort when they were touring Europe for war support. Theres quite a funny scene about this from the 2008 documentary John Adams with Paul Giamatti, if you haven't seen it, it was pretty good.
I do wish the Netherlands could have kept part of the US so mutual borders and a stronger relationship would have been possible. Also it would have made things a lot easier in getting the US their independence as the British couldn't stop the Dutch merchant ships and possibly even US people getting trained properly to become proper battle ready soldiers. It would have made things so much easier in the long run as well.
And you think the British wouldn't just have declared war and invaded anyway? The Dutch did have a foothold in the Americas once, remember? Nieuw Amsterdam. Guess who came and kicked us out.
@@xXTheoLinuxXx The people in Nieuw Amsterdam didn't care who they traded with only Peter Stuyvesant wanted to fight. As for the Dutch goverment it was not such a great loss. Fur trade was a small part of the economy and Sugar cane made money more so Suriname was a good trade for them at that time.
My fiance, who is a Dutchman, sent me this. Interestingly enough, one of my great grandmothers was a member of Daughters of the American Revolution which makes me a descendant of revolutionaries. Funny our world isn't it. Just thought that was a fun little coincidence.
Yes, the Dutch did that. But we will never stop being thankful (understatement) for the liberation from pure evil and oppression during WO II and the subsequent US financial aid. Mind-boggling how many young US lives were lost. What makes me proud is that there is a long list of Dutch people that want to adopt a US WO II grave. So financial investments are clearly not the only thing that makes us tick ;)
How many US lives were lost? The Netherlands was liberated by the Canadians and the British, not the Americans. If you care about lives lost, you should be grateful for the Soviet Union. They lost 27 million lives to defeat Nazi Germany. That's 1,5 times the number of people that live in the Netherlands today. Now THAT'S mind-boggling.
@@Swaxdude Very true, obviously! In the grader scheme of thing there is much to debate about, like: would GB and Canada be able to have done it without the US, I think not! Without the USSR? Who knows! Anyway, my comment is about this video which is about Dutch/US relationships.
@@Swaxdude the Allies liberated southern Netherlands during Market Garden. As you might know this was a joined effort with both Common Wealth and Amercan troops The 101th Airborne liberated Eindhoven.
@@Swaxdude British and Canadians were helped by the Americans you liberal don't shit on the net if you don't know history and also ussr were themselves more evil than Germany you commie had Germany won in ww2 the world would've been very advanced and many countries like cuba ,Venezuela, Vietnam and many more would have been saved and we would've lived 50 years in the future but ussr victory pushed the world 50 yrs back so go away commie
@@GeographyGeek like the pilgrims sailed from the Netherlands they lived here because they where political refugees from England and they left because they thought of us as too free so they came to bee free and then they where like dang you guys are too free
Also, the Plakkaat van Verlatinghe (the Dutch Declaration of Independence) served as a draft for the American Declaration of Independence!
*Het Plakkaat van Verlatinghe
@@markposthuma2000 depends on the region*
Not only that, but it also was a draft for the UK's "Bill of Rights" after the Glorious Revolution when the Netherlands conquered the United Kingdom with the conscent of the UK citizens.
The Bill of Rights is signed ~100 years after the Dutch Act of Abjuration (Acte van Verlatinghe). The US decleration of independence is ~100 years after the Bill of Rights was signed. It's
almost as if it was all planned.
This is true, but the Constitution was a different matter. They saw the Dutch Republic mainly as an example of how not to do it.
@@NLTops Where do the differences come in though?
We have (had) a lot of constitutional similarities as well, including being allowed to have firearms until after WW1.
The Pilgrim Fathers were driven out of the UK and came to the Netherlands because they were free here (due to the Enlightenment here) and settled in Leiden before a group (not all) of them set sail to the new world. Taken with them the lessons learned here.
Of course there will be a few things on how not to do it, but the vast majority of the Dutch concepts have been taken over.
Free trade, stock exchange, freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom to carry arms (revoked in NL after WW1), democracy, capitalism, polder model.
While things have certainly been tweaked, the USA in its foundations is unmistakably of Dutch origin.
Finally! The Netherlands role in the USA revolutions has had always been underestimated.
I want compensation for supporting the United States. Can we have some country?
@@laurensa.1803 Same i just want a single plot of land of a 300 meter radius on these coordinates: 38°53'50.9"N 77°02'11.7"W.
@@darknessblades Now I’m curious. But I can’t click on that., can you post it as a separate link?
@@alumpyhorse I looked it up, its the white house
@@stefgrootlipman69 dank 😀
nobody: "..."
The Dutch from the 16 to 19th century: "money time"
The british: "wait that's illegal"
The Dutch from the 16 to 19th century: "NEUTRAL money time"
Actually the Dutch were nowhere near neutral in the 16th to 18th century. In the 1700's they took a leading role by conquering England in 1688 and defeating the French in the forty years war (1672-1712).
@@TimDutch Neutral hostile takeover tieme
Dont forgot the voc which attacked other countries but was technically a independent organization so the Netherlands technically wasnt responsible eventhough they controlled it :D
Neutral loopholes !
@@mauricebenink The VOC still got orders from patria, so the Dutch were actually responsible for the VOC. The VOC also made sure to not upset countries when they could not use tensions at patria. Except for the Portuguese holdings.
i mean in 1830 they lost belgium
"The Dutch didn't care."
Accurate, as long as there is money, we gonna be there. XD
Or spices🌶🌶
@@kebab9834 But no to coconuts!
Or Colony's!
@@bundleofhumble3119 colonies* 's is more a Dutch thing than English
I would even sell my mother in law when the price is good. Well, that's a lie because i would sell her for any price.
This entire video is one big demonstration of the average Dutchman's 'you can't tell me what to do'-attitude 😄
Thats the reason we are one of the best countries in the world. We dont listen to dumbasses
@@Limmitless thats how we used to be. Now look at that empty head in charge of our country and how everyone is blindly following the fool. We have changed unfortunately
@@samuvisser ngl true lmao. Not all though but yeah u right.
Yeah, that's why absolutely no one ever used non-effective masks and "va¢¢ines" when the government told them so lol.
I wish people still had that attitude!
@@MrBasinator heh
"It's not about sending a message... it's about the money"
Actually that is still true :)
As was it all. We did not colonize as the British, we just wanted some moela, if you now what I am saying.
@@AlbertAlbertB. I mean yeah, but let's not forget the slave trading that came with it. VOC had a huge slave trade network
@@TheB0sss yeah, because that made money.
Capitalism is amoral, shocker.
@@TheB0sss that’s basically all european countries in the 17th century tho
I'm Dutch, and I knew that the Netherlands had some part, but I honestly never knew it was this big.
I loved the part where Johannes de Graaff answered the salute shot with 11 shots, acknowledging the independent nation.
Just considering his position, being sent there because the previous ruler would side against Britain, and what could've happened if it didn't work out as planned, I think it was a very powerful thing to do.
Zonder ons was het niks geworden.
Meanwhile (... or a couple of weeks later)
in the Hague (was the government seated over there back then too?)
'He did what?!'
Just remember when you see a USA person being proud of their Marine Corp.... that the marine corp is a Dutch invention.
@@GeorgeSaint666 Marine Corp a Dutch invention?
That's not what I was taught in history tbh. I was always taught that the first "marines" were the Spanish :/
@@jansmit4690 precies lol
So the Dutch were being stubborn and profitdriven you say? Sounds accurate :')
And vengeful people always forget how angry dutch people can get 😂
This is still how the dutch work.
Government well its technically not allowed but we do it any way ( weed )
France stop selling weed to our poeple.
The dutch sure ( 1 year later ) well we still do it any way
Im Dutch, and thats al it is. Take everthing that makes money for you. And trade it back
Do I hear spices ? Starts breating
Same shit, different day.
The british: '' So you and your fellow dutchies will stop trading with americans?''
The dutch: ''Well yea but actually, no''
Meme's dead, try something else.
@@BalboaBaggins it isn't dead yet
Here's a common Dutch phrase: we gaan het probleem omzeilen.
Zeilen is sailing. You would say, we'll sail around the problem. Or outsail maybe.
You are a wise man.
het loopt de spuigaten uit met al die zegswijzen maar je hebt je op de valreep gered.
anders sleep je die schuld mee in je kielzog en is het alle hens aan dek om ermee in het reine te komen.
Wanneer je je innerlijke rust eindelijk hebt gevonden krijg je alle wind in de zeilen.
zullen we ff zo een frikandelbroodje eten? MET CURRY GRAAG
@@ltmcolen stem fvd. Rutte en kaag hebben nederland gekaapt. Het renaissance vloot heeft te maken met muiterij
@@gingfreecss3467 stem tegen dat soort intolerante lanterfanters en zeker tegen mannen zoals thierry. als je nederlande glorie terug wil moet je een tolerante regerimg hebben zoals ook toen al het geval was en juist de arbeid en kennis van migranten waarderen.
The English: Stop that!
The Dutch: Oke.
Also the Dutch: Continues doing whatever we want.
Yup! The Dutch… 😂
Sounds about right.
@@wHiTeHaT44 Wie ik? Nee joh dat was een fransoos met een knoop in zn vlag..
As a Dutch person this was an interesting watch. I think the line "Whatever the motivation was, the US will always be grateful for their support." is wonderful. Especially as we have the same gratitude for the US' liberation efforts in WW2. Intentions matter, but actions matter for. There exist terrible actions based on good intentions and laudable actions based on self-interest.
Ah yes grateful by denying annexation of German lands to Netherlands for reperations and then forcing the release of colonies.
@@niatscreations4913 Colonialism is oppressive and you want spoils of war when we barely contributed to it (at least in the European theater)? And since we promised Indonesia independence if they fought along the Dutch, I believe it's only fair that we kept our word.
So yes. Grateful for being liberated from foreign occupation is plenty by my book.
It is a shame though we traded NYC for the Surinames back then. As it also became THIS close for Dutch to have become the official language to be spoken in the North American colonies. So the most spoken second language in the world these days may have been Dutch,... instead of english.
And we would have been surfing "het Wereld Wijde Web" instead of "the World Wide Web". ;-D
@@GeorgeSaint666 well at the time it was a good trade fur outpost for something much more valuable: sugar and later high value metals.
@@ThirdGradeProductions I hope you read all of this so as to not make it a waste of my time. You should really try to read the context in which things are said. It was a response to someone who was angry we lost colonies post-WW2 (which, surprise, so did everyone else) and wanted Germany to give us part of the Ruhr as compensation when reparations in the Versailles Treaty is arguably the biggest factor as to why WW2 happened.
Now that's out of the way, let's talk specifics. First off, I mentioned the Asian Theater already. Our influence there was far more significant, and so was the human cost there compared to the European Theater.
Volunteer forces. Yes, a single Dutch Brigade fought under Canadian command at D-Day, and later moved inland under Brittish command. It was roughly 2.000 man strong and it had been trained in the UK, with British/US supplies. The Dutch also fought at Dunkirk, but again, it was a relatively insignificant force. Whereas the guy I was responding to tried to make it sound like we were one of the major players in the European Theater and deserve some kind of reward.
Resistance. Yes, a significant part of the Dutch population passively or actively resisted German occupation. Activities like espionage and sabotage, which happened far less than hiding people or civic disobedience, did help the war effort. Most notably, had the Brits listened to the advice of Dutch Resistance cells, the utter disaster that was Market Garden wouldn't have been greenlit. On the other side of the coin, many Dutch people also joined the NSB or the Waffen-SS. Resistance or treachery isn't exactly a policy decision, but rather an individual one. There wasn't a country in occupied Europe where either didn't occur. And again, it was said within the context of the arguement of the person I'm responding to. Resistance isn't some kind of accomplishment that earns us some German territory after its defeat. These were regular people fighting for their freedom, their lives and their way of life.
As for the human cost, I refer you to this aggregate of information, it's an interactive video worth watching in its entirity: www.fallen.io/ww2/#
Here's a summary of the moments that show Dutch deaths. The interactive video talks about the European theater and the Pacific Theater seperately.
Points relating to the Netherlands (European Theater):
3:44 shows the Dutch (military) death toll in the invasion,
7:58 shows the Dutch Jewish deaths,
11:02 shows all civilian deaths including the Jewish deaths.
Points relating to the Netherlands (Pacific Theater):
12:00 shows all military and civilian Deaths in the Pacific Theater. This is where the majority of "Dutch" deaths happened. As in the European theater, the majority of them were civilians dying from starvation, disease, bombings and executions. And I put Dutch in quotes because many of them were in actual fact Indonesians living under Dutch rule.
The US on the other hand had no significant civilian loss of life. Crews of merchant shipping and that's about it. The majority of US Deaths were military, and the majority of them were in Europe. So saying "we had the same amount of deaths" is a bit of a simplification. Since most of their deaths were soldiers trying to liberate Europe and defeat Germany, and most of our deaths were Indonesian civilians after we failed to keep the Japanese out with our relatively small military.
So no, I'm not saying we just laid down and took it. I'm saying the loss of life under our flag were mostly non-Dutch SUBJECTS and complaining about reparations (when WW2 itself was a lesson on how horribly reparations can backfire) and the end of collonialism (due to every major power in the world being too financially, militarily and mentally exhausted to maintain control over their unwilling subjects whom they had often promised freedom for their help), is utterly ridiculous.
And if you recall, my original point was entirely different. It was that I, and many other Dutch people, have a sense of gratitude towards the US (and the other Allies) for our liberation from German occupation. It wasn't a selfless act, heck, they had to get to Berlin somehow. But it still helped us be an independent country today. To which he basically begrudgingly replied "But we didn't get the Dutch East Indies back and the Allies didn't let us have part of Germany.". When we promised Indonesians independence if they helped us against the Japanese and we were a small drop in the wave that toppled Germany.
So in the future, please keep in mind the context in which things are said. They are the best indication of what the point behind what someone says is. Don't just draw your own assumptions and talk down to them. Heck, if you can't figure it out from context, just ask. Because If I have to go over the entire 2nd World War every time I make a counter arguement against someone saying ridiculous things about it, I will be typing until I'm 80.
Wow, i never knew about this, i'm from the Netherlands and i always like hearing about our history, and to know that we contributed to the existence of America is pretty cool.
Good content, surprised to see you're not getting more views man. Keep it up!
Thank you! Hopefully it will pick up soon!
Well it's an big part of our history and I learned about?
we contributed to the existence of America, causing the 4th anglo dutch war and completely ruining the dutch colonial holdings..
We co created the nuclear bomb and guantanamo. Yeah pretty cool.
Roosevelt and van der bolt were dutch heritage presidents tough
@@martinos9334 yeah because colonialism was a right fairytale wasn't it?
The Netherlands is still nowadays a power in the international trade such a marvel for such a tiny nation rising the chart in competitiveness
Yep, second in agricultural export globally with a nation that small
Yep, one of the biggest polluters as well.
@@BalboaBaggins bullshit
@@BalboaBaggins Have you looked at Australia or America mate?
@@BalboaBaggins dude what? No, per Capita, Netherlands is 33rd on the list of heaviest polluters.
United States is 2nd for example
You're doing a pretty good job at pronouncing Dutch words, tip of the hat to you sir.
Thank you!
The first ambassador of the US in the Netherlands was also the first outside the US. The dutch did a lot in History in the world that many people doesn't know. The dutch where also the second country in the world after France that recognized the US as a country of their own..
This is true! I learn more about the Dutch everyday. I hope to cover some of those unknown topics on this channel.
@@GeographyGeek Like to see when you have more. Keep up the good work...
Not completely true the first goverment that agreed that the Americans has the right too be free too control their own future and the right too be a indenpendence nation is the goverment of Friesland one off the seven provences off the republic off the Netherlands before France
@@clashholland5333 I forgot about Friesland..Thanks for the info...
1) Morocco 1777, 2) The Netherlands 1782, if I remember well. : )
"if it weren't for us you'd be speaking german😠"
if it weren't for us you'd be drinking tea!
Hahahahahahaha precieeeesssss
I thought that canada liberated the Netherlands not america
@@crazydutchman7094 together with the Poles and British, by that time in the war the US was mostly interested in their race to Berlin
@@crazydutchman7094 a lot of parties were involved in liberating the Netherlands, but as usual the only thing you'll hear is USA USA USA WE FREED YOU, WE NO ONE ELSE, kinda sad tbh
🤣🤣🤣
John Adams was the first US ambassador to the Netherlands and achieved good relations, in trade and financial.
Look up "John Adams meets the Dutch" on YT
@@AudieHolland ah yes, from the TV show, 'John Adams'
Really enjoyed that.
@@rolandet Yes, it's very good isn't it :D
Thank you for mentioning Roosevelt, his ancestors came from Middelburg, Zeeland one of the 7 provinces. I hope I got it right .
12 provinces actually
@@mrkurrei between 1588 and 1795 we were a republic of 7 provinces. Now a days we have 12.
A bunch of US presidents had their roots/ties in The Netherlands actually
yes. my family also came from Zeeland ( and Brabant/Ghent/Antwerp) and were related to VOC/WIC merchants and were able to leave NL because of Spanish inquisition.Came to new amsterdam (NYC) in 1620 and married daughter off to WIC Governor of new amsterdam. Settled in New Jersey with other dutch families in 1750's and because of strategic location George Washington kept his troops on their farm and other dutch families for most of revolution. they helped get contraband from dutch merchant relatives through curacao mainly. spoke dutch dialect until 1930s. over 300 years stayed insular- marry primarily in dutch reform church.
The netherlands was the richest and had the biggest navy in the world at some point
Isnt that just epic
at the start of WW2, the Dutch still had the 2nd largest fleet of merchant vessels in the world and 70% of all oil used as fuel by the allies came from curacao
An epic downfall
@@TB-tv2zf Yeah cause were doing so bad right now.... xD
The golden century. Number 1 also in painting.
@@TB-tv2zf Holland still is among the best countries to live in. Would've been 1st if it weren't for the EPIC downfall!..xD
I'm Dutch and I like this story. It looks like it was well researched. Small in size, great in deeds. I'm talking about The Netherlands here not something else.....
I'm not Dutch, but I like this story! 😅🤣😅
Ahh, 22 dudes with small dicks liked your comment :)
@@ramachtbassman375 LOL, we're the tallest people in the world kiddo... .. . Also among the richest and happiest... .. .
Very accurate told part of both American and Dutch history! Fort Orange still standing strong on St. Eustatius.
Video about thr Netherlands: *eixsts*
Dutch commenters: "SPECERIJEN!"
"GEKOLONISEERD!"
VEry famous: Schiphol! Who can pronounce that! (outside of the Netherlands of course)
@@hansdegroot652 I figure the Germans have a good chance of nailing it, even if they don't pronounce the G
@@sheepisfortheweak6164 no, the G is the hardest part. Scandinavians have a better chance of hitting that hard G, just like Arabs and Hebrew speakers.
@@DokterRoetker Yeah, perhaps you're right. I guess the hard G is a pretty niche thing.
@@hansdegroot652 doesn't matter, most people can say amsterdam airport or beach of den hague without a problem.
I think that now the UK has left the EU the new offical EU language should be Dutch!
@@contrapasso1539 The Germans would always prefer Dutch over French though
Obviously it should be the language of the Hanseatic League that becomes the official EU language. 😊
No, we should follow their example and leave as well.
@@SparklingDiva1111 The dutch would go bankrupt if we did that lol. Or atleast lose out on a shit load of money
@@eelkesneijders6180 It'd be quite the change, yes, and all change comes with chaos. But in the end it would do our country a lot of good! We'd also save millions that now go to the EU. It could also convince more countries to leave the EU and then things can go back to normal more and more. The way I see it, it's the only road to a good future.
The crede of the Dutch in those times was: God is goed, handel is beter!
God is great, but trade is better! :)
The Dutch, the OG Ferengi.
@DylanG0125 Vertel me wat :P
History always repeats itself. In this case with a window of about 200 years. The US Declaration of Independence (1776) was in part, based on the Akte der Verlatinghe (1581). It, in turn, was partly inspired by the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath (1320). Instead of looking at this as a competition, I find it very interesting to see the evolution between these three documents and the views they represent at the time.
I should indeed have a look at comparing all three.
Plakkaat*
“So why did you trade them weapons?”
*”Hello i like money”*
Wow this was a very interesting video! I'd heard about this before, but never with so much detail!
Well done!!
Thank you!
As a dutchman I can confirm that we (from my experience) don't care.
We don't care where you're from
We don't care about your sexual orïentation
We don't care about your skin colour
We don't care about you upholding your traditions (as long as they don't violate any laws)
Just try to get allong with us and we will do our best to return the favor.
and dont act stupid or outlandish. that's still a big one
@@napoleon950 true. The great Dutch paradox: be great, but act humble.
@@RedOrm68 100% sure that stems from Calvinistic views with a little bit of merchant diplomacy
We may not care but if you sound gay, we say it anyway.
@@napoleon950 - Those views were really handy when they persecuted Catholics in the Malaccas and other places. Read - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Church_(Melaka)
Loved this piece on Dutch support and recognition of The US. Simple, nicely done with fascinating facts!
Thank you!
The Dutch didn’t care…
Now that’s my country!! 🇳🇱😁
your country gave up ww2 and made weapons because hitler commanded ''your country'' is and will never be powerful your country literally is called land traitor i wouldn’t be proud of that.
@@sarahawow2093 okay.. first things first!
“Nether” means Low (Low lands)
2: we only made weapons because our families were held at gunpoint.
It wasn’t like they had a choice. Of course there were some rotten apples but every nation got that. And that brings me to part 3
Literally EVERY COUNTRY has a Dark chapter in their history. And NO I don’t support every thing that has happened in the past.
So in general.. yes i’m proud.
But where are your from?
@@Jari-95 im am russian but live in the Netherlands. yeah you guys made weapons that were used to kill you guys and other countries
@@Jari-95 oh and don’t forget that the Dutch people used to snitch on jews were they lived or hided not only are the dutch land traitors but that are also snitches
@@sarahawow2093 Stalin let his people starve to the point of cannibalism!
And Putin is supplying every terrorist group in the world with weapons.
There were even more people who helped jews then snitch on them!
Start criticizing your own country first!! 🤣
Damn your stupid!
By the way: Fun fact Peter the Great colored his flag in the colors in the red white and blue in honor of the country that helped him realize a navy… A.K.A. THE NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
Achievement unlucked: you know more about dutch history then 95% of dutch people
One of the reasons my country became so influential is because we figured out how to use windmills to saw wood greatly increasing the speed with which we could create ships from wood.
Yess, i missed that one in the video!!
Thanks to the crankshaft in the windmills they could saw planks much quicker than other countries could indeed.
I guess trade has always been the basis of the Netherlands economy. Trade came before religion, culture, nationality, etc. Even now, learning a second language is mandatory in the school system. The Netherlands is the 2nd biggest food export market in the world, after the U.S. Also they pritty much never let anyone tell them what to do or how to do it in trade, hence they are called stubborn. Can the Dutch be proud of their global achievements? I think yes, absolutely. Although it must be said they did not always make money in the nicest ways, slave trade and smuggeling. But at that time, almost every trade country did. The Dutch however did it from one of the smallest countries in Europe, about 17 Million inhabitants today. From that point of view i say yes, its an achievement. There are cities in this world that have more inhabitants.
As someone who does VWO I’m forced to learn 3 languages... hahaha I wanna shoot myself
Ja lekker gymnasium doen, wordt leuk zeggen ze
at that time, slaves were just another item to be sold
if it comes to slavery, the only guilty person is the consumer, if there is or was no demand for people to work for free, the Dutch wouldn't have a reason to 'transport' them to their destination... This principle stayed the same, no demand, and no'1 will care to make it
Dont start about slave trade without knowing it.
At the time most dutch themselves were pretty much slaves. Also you should look into the barbary slave trade and others.
It's also the reason why the Dutch were allowed to keep a trading post in Japan, when all other Europeans were kicked out.
The Dutch were the only ones that had just been honest traders, while the British, French, Spanish, had all tried to convert the Japanese to various forms of Christianity. This had led to peasant uprisings in Japan, and was one of the main reasons to kick all other Europeans out.
"The US will always be grateful"
Hahaha they don't even know about it, come on.
Like a common Dutch person anywhere, knowing the Canadians liberated the Netherlands in 1945.
A common American person has no clue how the Dutch helped the US at it's infancy or that they did at all play a role.
Edit : Rereading it and seeing the comments on it, I realize it can be interpreted as if I'm saying that the Dutch don't know who liberated them in 1945.
Let me correct that, we commemorate the offers the many allies brought to give us back our freedom, every year on May 4th.
The Canadians hold a special place in our hearts at that.
Every Dutch knows why.
Every single one of us.
Canadians are forever welcome among the Dutch.
True lol. I’ll be grateful for them. Or maybe this video will go viral. lol
Ofcourse we know that we are liberated by the USA, Canada, UK and Poland... Yes parts of The Netherlands are liberated by the Polish division of General Maczek.
Every dutchman knows this 🤣🤣
I mean, in this part of the Netherlands most people do, we have a few graves and small monuments dedicated to the Canadians.
everyone knows that the canadians helped we even hang there flag out on the 4th and 5th of may
It's a fascinating bit of history that most Dutch and American people are unaware of. I am currently reading the book and have lived on St Eustatius (locally called "Statia") for four years. The First Salute is still celebrated there each year as "Statia Day".
I love both Statia and Saba.
Such nice islands.
Great video, and pro tip: put dutch in the title and your viewership will increase until everyone in the netherlands is watching
Thank you and will do! lol
@@GeographyGeek Be careful tho, cause your channel might become G E K O L O N I S E E R D.
@@TMTFT I’m completely fine with that 😂
I'm not watching,!
Just a few fun facts:
The airport on the St. Eustatius is named the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Airport in commemoration of the president's visit and acknowledgement.
The story of the Dutch
island's role in the US war for independence from the British been immortalised in the lyrics of the national anthem of the island.
Oh thank you! I didn’t know that.
Barbara Tuchman's "The First Salute (1988)" Great read (non-fiction).
I never knew it was her last work. She died in 1989.
Only read it once but the things I still remember:
Saint Eustatius was simply known as "Statia" to most sailors.
Tuchman wrote battle accounts that made you feel you were in a movie.
"Give them powder!" (fire)
"Give them steel!" (bayonet charge!)
Yet she also wrote about the illustrious English fighting units sent to fight the American rebels, the British units which would hundreds years later, become famous again in their battles during World War II *fighting together* with their American Brothers in Arms.
Great book! That was one of my main sources of information for this video.
@@GeographyGeek Thank you for your well-researched and well narrated video!
@@AudieHolland thank you! As an American I’ve heard the war told from our point of view my entire life. It was really interesting reading it from such a different perspective which is what made me dive in a little deeper to make this video.
She also wrote " The crazy fourteenth century ". A good book if you like history.
Long Leve the USA, The Netherlands and Belgium.
What is this Belgium thing people keep talking about? All I see is southern Netherlands.
@@letheas6175 lol
Belgium didn't even exist... 🤣
-Hello 1830 👋
why tf belgium????
@@Bananaman-hk6qw New Belgium existed near new Netherlands in the USA before the English came. A lot of protestant Belgians came to America because of the inquisition by the catholics in that period of times. Has to do with religion.
At that time it was eat or be eaten, many people today don’t seem to understand.
Thanks for this interesting recount of an influential element of history.
[edited for grammar mistake]
No problem! Thank you for watching and I’m happy you found it interesting as well.
As a dutchman i have to say,
G E K O L O N I S E E R D 🇳🇱
🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈 ik sluit me daarbij aan
G E H A N D H A A F D
I N G E P O L D E R D
Ik kan niet zeggen dat ik niet naar deze reactie op zoek was.
M O I E E M
U are probably one of the, if not the most underrated channel! Keep it up!
Thank you! That means a lot!
How the Dutch Created The Netherlands - th-cam.com/video/M9tEABvnFXs/w-d-xo.html
As someone from NL, the first line in that video should be ' as finishing touch god created the Dutch;'
Also the declaration of independence has many Many things in common with our version of it. Which predate it by a 100 years.
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Hey, Geek! Hello! *
Watch Dutch movie:
"Michiel de Ruiyter".
I like that movie a lot,
and maybe u do too. :)
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* I don't know your name,
for this reason I call you,
Geek. :)
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@@rubenverheij4770 thanks! I’ll check it out! I’m happy to be called a geek! lol
The country that contributed the most, both economically and militarily, to the USA independence was Spain.
Really cool, I am surprised Statia does not get more visitors from the States, that salute story is legendary . Most Americans visit neigbouring Sint Maarten by cruiseship and miss out on this historical little island.
Statia and Saba are much nicer than St. Maarten.
I love both little islands a lot.
Too bad USA isn’t bilingual with both English and Dutch, would’ve been fun to talk Dutch to everyone in NYC.
you have the pensylvania dutch, but these actually have their roots in germany
@@StMargorach That isn't even close to Dutch, perhaps they could understand me speaking German though.
@@StMargorach they speak a Plattdutch dialect and use many English words. Hard to comprehend foe many speakers from Germany or the Netherlands.
It could've been monolingual Dutch if Nieuw Amsterdam wasn't swapped for Suriname.
You mean New Amsterdam?
Very interesting vid. Thanks for putting in the work!!
Thank you!
Yeah, what can I say. Us Dutch people never really did well under aothoritarian people who tell us what we are and are not allowed to do.
We can relate to that
@Intuition its a progressive taxation. And not 52%. Up to € 68.507 income there is 37,05% taxation. Higher income than that is taxed 49,50%.
@Intuition and what you get in return are everything you see around you in Zuid holland. A governement gets taxes and other income and allocates this to, for.example, infrastructure, healthcare education.
That beeing said, im not a fan of rutten, and no im also not a wilders voter.
@Intuition If you think we're obsessed with rules and regulations you're gonna hate Germany lmao
@Intuition Good luck with your bins. British infrastructure is ridiculous and there's a river flooding pretty much every year. What we get in return for our taxes in the Netherlands is the 3rd best infrastructure in the world and a magnificent system of flood protection. And both of them are crucial to support our economy, which is the 4th most competitive in the world. We also get affordable and high quality education as well as healthcare. Taxes in the Netherlands are spent much better than in almost any other country.
the Dutch had invented the windmill and use it to saw logs to planks for shipbuilding faster as any other could and since it's not an isle it had limitless acces to the special parts of oaktrees where the thick old branches root, these were nessesary for shipbuilding as they could only support the vessels decks, it was only when british engeneers come up with a load bearing sullution when they could start playing catch up, by then the Dutch had taken the seatrade with their many ships,.. or so I've summarized as a Dutchman learning about our history,..
Actually we didnt invent the windmill, they were pretty common across all of western europe, same with wooden shoes and dikes and everything else that is now considered dutch cultural heritage. Thats mostly due to succesful marketing and tourism advertisement and the fact that we built a lot of windmills.
And when the narrator started talking about the Boston Tea Party, at that moment Abigail yelled to Ichabod "CRANEE!!! what do you know about this?"
Well, Miss Mills.... I accidently started it...
Excellent video and info. Thank you.
What motivated you to support the American war for independence?
Money!
Most likely to be nasty to our enemy: the British...
Dont underestimate our hatred for the British empire 😉
Also do not forget the simiarities between the Netherlands and the USA. Sum it up:
Freedom! (To make money)
Freedom! (Of religion)
Freedom! (From oppression)
But we also have some differences
Like freedom from want
And freedom from fear
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@@jacobushubertuskirchner9948 The Brits were actually our allies for a long time since France was our major enemy
stumbled across this video and channel by accident. glad I did. As an expat living in Amsterdam, I’ve had 25+ years of experiencing firsthand the flaws and the joys of both cultures. these days I wish I could create a utopia and combine the two, picking the best traits from both. I’d start with a better public education system in the states & civics classes for all. And a healthy dose of debunking online disinformation for both countries
I am not at all impressed by the US education system, when compared to the Dutch one. What makes you think the US system is better?
Citizenship education (maatschappijleer) has been a part of the Dutch curriculum since 1972 and civics (burgerschaponderwijs) since 2006.
I know that when I was in my last year of Dutch high school in 1994, I looked into studying in the USA for a year. My SAT scores would have allowed me to skip the first year of US university. In the end I didn't go, because it would have marked me as a draft dodger. And don't get me started on the unequal financing of US public education.
@@rogerwilco2 You misunderstood my comment, or something I wrote wasn’t clear. I was agreeing with your opinions. the public education system in America is savagely underfunded and the civics classes are limited at best, and often use textbooks that, let’s just say, don’t reflect all of America’s history.
Dutch high schools are far far better. I think the universities are good in both countries, the US has amazing schools for the arts, conservatories, etc. Anyway, hope I cleared that up.
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Thank you for your hard work and dedication
I'm Dutch, but didn't know we were the first (by extention) to recognize the United States as a sovereign state. The other stuff sounds familliar. As long as money could be made, the Netherlands would trade and support efforts.
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Ja, de geschiedenis van de Caribische eilanden, en andere voormalige coloniën wordt in Nederland niet echt verteld.
Er zijn delen bij waar we als Nederland trost op kunnen zijn, en delen waar Nederland zich van haar slechtste kant heeft laten zien.
Maar zeker voor de eilanden die nog steeds bij het koningkrijk horen, zou best iets meer aandacht mogen zijn.
Zeker St. Eutatius en Curaçao hebben zelf een rijke geschiedenis.
Great video.
Great music at the end.
Thank you!
Actual goosebumps, hearing this as a dutchman.
I think I may just have been your 4000th subscriber after seeing this video. Congrats on the milestone and thanks for the great video.
I think you were! Thank you!
Delta's, like the Netherlands, are always about trade. Connecting sea, river and road trade.
The british: stop trading with the united states
The dutch: ill pretend i didn’t see that
As a Dutchman, this really surprised me. I never thought the Netherlands contributed THIS MUCH to the USA. This video feels like a big historical 'You're welcome' to the USA. Great video
The Dutch merchants and their american families contributed SO SO SO much to the founding of the USA. my family came 1620 to New Amsterdam from Zeeland. Dutch farm families (mine included) hosted and paid for George Washingtons troops during the revolution for several years and arranged contraband trade. dutch loan words still in american lexicon. cookie (koekje) stoop, sinder klaus etc. see my other posts on this thread.
Thank you for this video. Informative and maybe why I'm so invested in USA affairs as a Dutch person. I love the US of A but recently I've come to detest it as well. The US is straying off the path.
Thank you!
Hi there, there are still parts of New York(nieuw Amsterdam) that has Dutch names like Harlem(Haarlem), my city of birth! And also Brooklyn(Breuckelen).
And the Yankees named after Jan Kees
@@richardslotboom9250 net als cookies(koekjes) en dollars(daalders)
Good video.
So...the Dutch will get free beer, when they are visiting the U.S. A. now?
No, we sell them beer
Where do you think they get the beer from?
@@somerandomdude8887 heineken...😄
Hahaha that would've been great if that happened
NO Heiniken Plzzzz. It's horsepeeee!
8:25...why is that flag portrayed upside-down? (Orange at the bottom instead of the top) Does this mean anything or was it 'just a drunk painter not paying attention to his work'?
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This is the first video
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Ps. I am from the NLs.
Thank you sir!
@2:53 geography
British: “we wish to inspect your vessels for contraband”
Dutch: “Ja, echt niet”
British: “eh?”
Hahaha 😂
ja dat gaan we dus even niet doen he makker
Great video. There's a typo in the title btw.
Thank you! Fixed it.
Nice video!
Thank you!
Nice video, but why does it end with Mozart's Requiem?
Thank you! It was free to use, from the time period, and sounds awesome lol. Though I did leave it open for interpretation. I did have the death / decline of the Netherlands as global power in mind though. Or the deaths & destruction that amounted in the wars that occurred as part of the revolution as a whole.
Funny to know that this little spit of land I'm from has been such a pain in the ass for the biggest empire of it's time.
And now its a country full of snowflakes and pussies who can only talk about the things their ancestors have done
@@chupapi7620 yet we invented a lot like the beginning of wifi wich australia completed and a dutch guy invented bluetooth and another dutch guy the submarine and a dutch company philips invented the audiotape wich evolved into cd’s etc. and we are a big tech country also a large export country and we have pretty good schools so also good medical care etc.
@@chupapi7620 yes they were ancestors or long ago but we did it and that is something what helped now right.. america wouldn’t have had submarines is no one invented it.. no one would have wifi if australia never completed it and no one would have sht to listen to without any invention
@@chupapi7620 they started growing and we keep it up there.. we are still a huge tech and export country
As a Dutch citizen I find the foreign relations policy of my ancestors has been pretty much suicidal.
The decline of the Dutch economy after the 4th Anglo-Dutch war essentially made the Netherlands a vassal of Great Britain.
As Winston Churchill like to say about the Netherlands (and Denmark) "fat but toothless." But it hurt the balance of power in Europe as first France under Napoleon would just roll over the Netherlands and gained it's resources and manpower for his wars and later Germany without the Netherlands being able to do much about it as Great Brittain dreaded a powerful Netherlands and kept us "fat and toothless" as were they responsible for making the Netherlands a monarchy.
Nah, we just lived above our standing in the world. We were a small country that was really powerfull for a while but we could never have kept that up. We were just to small.
I thought Napoleon made Holland a monarchy, with his brother as King.
Its not like the English wouldve just played nice if we didnt go to war with them when it was favourable to do so. They wanted those spice islands.
You had the *brand new* Blitzkrieg beaten in Afsluitdijk and the *brand new* Fallschirmjäger completely annihilated at Ypenburg. Moerdijk was right in the middle and was unfortunately lost. I don’t think you realize how many Wehrmacht Generals shit themselves.
I knew the French and Spanish assisted the fledgling USA in its fight against the oppressive English, but I was unfamiliar with the fact that the Netherlands played a major role as well. Whether their motivation was lining their own pockets or the fact that we shared a common enemy doesn't really matter. They assisted the USA in its time of need, and for that we are in your debt.
Nothing changed here. Money makes the world go 'round in the country that me created ourselves. Check the first country with a stock exchange.
What great story, never knew about the 11 salute shots that acknowledged the first American war ship.
greetings from The Netherlands
Your content is awesome ....Tip for you make 2-3 video about India . It will really blow up. Mark my words....
Thank you! I’ve thought about that! I’ve got quite a lot of studying to do before an India video though. I have little background knowledge on the country at the moment.
Amazing video!! Proud to be a Dutchman
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3:32... Darned. What was the name of the black man again that got shot during the Boston Massacre? It is on the tip of my tongue,... but I dont recall. He was the first to die. Wasnt he?
You are correct! Crispus Attucks
The dutch: I don't came to look for war i am looking for your money.
@TwinTurbo Ray it's correct. If it's not please let me know the reasoning. it's past simple form of come.
@TwinTurbo Ray Give me an explanation why ''i don't came'' is incorrect.
For the Louisiana purchase in 1803 the US borrowed five million dollars from Hope&co in the Netherlands and the wealthy Dutch could buy a share in this deal.
The “Gemeente Amsterdam stadsarchief” (city archives) includes the Bank Mees&Hope archives, and has some original documents.
You can't tell a Dutchie what to do, the Brits should've known that.
of course that is why we always fuck up with covid. cuz the dutch don't give a fuck. XD makes sense
Excellent episode. Here's topic for a future episode: American Dutch settlers in the upper Hudson River Valley were subject to constant harassment by British subjects and their Indian allies from the New England Colonies; including forays into the Valley. My ancestors - the Tellers - and most other Dutch settlers kept to themselves after the English Crown became their new rulers. Obviously there was no love lost between the Dutch and the English in those early days of American history.
1:03 Did it? I thought it was pretty much the modern day borders, but a bit messier and without Limburg
Yes, yes it did
Great video, I just subscribed 😀
Thank you!!
if only my history teacher back in 1986 told it this way history would have been a lot more interresting for me. Looking back I think he did okay for the time. BUt I never knew that the Dutch we the first nation to recongize the US. Lets do it again and recognize Taiwan as a country!! Bring back the V.O.C.! (but a bit more humane this time). Who cares about AliExpress. Taiwan has Acer, HTC and a huge chip factory the world needs. So there is profit there! Sorry I got carried away. Thank you for the nice video.
I appreciate the kind words! The United States recognized Taiwan at one time but eventually gave in and recognized China as the government of both, though the US still treats Taiwan as a sovereign country.
@@GeographyGeek A bit like what the Dutch did to the Brits during the American revolution? lol
@@bloedblarre I remember some kind of scandal a long time a about selling Dutch submarines to to Taiwan. I think we gave in under pressure.
Ever wondered why there is KLM Asia (a subsidiary of Amsterdam-based KLM Royal Dutch Airlines)? As China doesn't allow KLM to fly into China if KLM would fly to Taiwan. The removal of the royal crown from its livery and the addition of the word 'Asia' was to appease mainland China authorities who still regard Taiwan as a part of China.
The Dutch also loaned the American ambassadors 1 million gulden to fund the war effort when they were touring Europe for war support. Theres quite a funny scene about this from the 2008 documentary John Adams with Paul Giamatti, if you haven't seen it, it was pretty good.
Still miss that VOC time and attitude
Me too. The best time of worldhistory!
6:53 Don't think the name is Johans. It's Johan or Johannes.
I do wish the Netherlands could have kept part of the US so mutual borders and a stronger relationship would have been possible. Also it would have made things a lot easier in getting the US their independence as the British couldn't stop the Dutch merchant ships and possibly even US people getting trained properly to become proper battle ready soldiers. It would have made things so much easier in the long run as well.
And you think the British wouldn't just have declared war and invaded anyway?
The Dutch did have a foothold in the Americas once, remember? Nieuw Amsterdam.
Guess who came and kicked us out.
@@RedOrm68 we trade it for Suriname, otherwise they might kicked us out.
@@xXTheoLinuxXx forced trade if I remember correctly
@@thijsg717 true it was part of the 'peace' :)
@@xXTheoLinuxXx The people in Nieuw Amsterdam didn't care who they traded with only Peter Stuyvesant wanted to fight. As for the Dutch goverment it was not such a great loss. Fur trade was a small part of the economy and Sugar cane made money more so Suriname was a good trade for them at that time.
did he also do a vid on the war between England and the Netherland with Michiel de Ruyter?
My fiance, who is a Dutchman, sent me this. Interestingly enough, one of my great grandmothers was a member of Daughters of the American Revolution which makes me a descendant of revolutionaries. Funny our world isn't it. Just thought that was a fun little coincidence.
You make great quality videos. Subscribed.
Thank you!!
Yes, the Dutch did that. But we will never stop being thankful (understatement) for the liberation from pure evil and oppression during WO II and the subsequent US financial aid. Mind-boggling how many young US lives were lost. What makes me proud is that there is a long list of Dutch people that want to adopt a US WO II grave. So financial investments are clearly not the only thing that makes us tick ;)
How many US lives were lost? The Netherlands was liberated by the Canadians and the British, not the Americans. If you care about lives lost, you should be grateful for the Soviet Union. They lost 27 million lives to defeat Nazi Germany. That's 1,5 times the number of people that live in the Netherlands today. Now THAT'S mind-boggling.
@@Swaxdude Very true, obviously! In the grader scheme of thing there is much to debate about, like: would GB and Canada be able to have done it without the US, I think not! Without the USSR? Who knows! Anyway, my comment is about this video which is about Dutch/US relationships.
@@Swaxdude the Allies liberated southern Netherlands during Market Garden. As you might know this was a joined effort with both Common Wealth and Amercan troops
The 101th Airborne liberated Eindhoven.
@@Swaxdude British and Canadians were helped by the Americans you liberal don't shit on the net if you don't know history and also ussr were themselves more evil than Germany you commie had Germany won in ww2 the world would've been very advanced and many countries like cuba ,Venezuela, Vietnam and many more would have been saved and we would've lived 50 years in the future but ussr victory pushed the world 50 yrs back so go away commie
great new channel!
Thank you!!
in my opinnion the netherlands created the right Circumstances for the word we now live in to exist
I do think the Netherlands influence in underestimated.
@@GeographyGeek like the pilgrims sailed from the Netherlands they lived here because they where political refugees from England and they left because they thought of us as too free so they came to bee free and then they where like dang you guys are too free