How the Dutch used Water as a Weapon of War (Siege of Leiden)
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One little addition needs to be made. The Pilgrims indeed reached Leiden, but not without some losses, you see, they first went to Amsterdam. So, it seems their faith was not strong enough to withstand what Amsterdam had to offer. They consequently lost half of their flock. They then moved to Leiden, took a few years to add to their flock, and only then the departed via Portsmouth to the new world. Not without trouble too, they got lost at sea and didn't arrive where they supposed to arrive. In all it was a disaster, but that story is seldom told.
Also, on the Pilgrims - they weren't fleeing persecution. They went to America TO PERSECUTE! The Puritan fathers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony did not tolerate opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that suffered no dissent - neither religious nor political.
That is a pretty accurate story, nice vid! We in Leiden still celebrate "Leids Ontzet" every year indeed, and although "Leideraren" are pretty aware about the greatness of this story, most of us just get drunk on the 3rd of October lol.
sad
There isnt such a thing as "Leideraren" or "Leidenaren" its Leienaren. Kut student
@@mitchellmarijt3941 Kut Leienaar.
@@tim3440 what is?
@@matbronk1 What is what?
Spot on. I live in Leiden and we indeed still extensively celebrate the liberation on October 3rd. The annual festivities are a major event and definitely include eating white bread and herring and also 'hutspot'. And there's obviously a lot of beer to wash it down. Small myth about the mayor: citizens were really starving but he had nothing to give. He allegedly told them they could cut him up and eat him if it would help them.
no wifi, since the dutch eats all hotspots that day
Ha mede Leienaar!
Edwin my, main stroopwafel, didnt we also eat a freakin minister back in the day?
John Quincy Adams -- for those not familiar, the 6th President of the United States -- was enrolled at Leiden University at age 13.
I live in Leiden! I was cool to see the old map of leiden much of the city street are still there and I bike through them often!
Drove my bicycle through Leiden (Leyden) today. Leiden is a beautiful -and maybe somewhat underrated- city. Not as massive as for instance Amsterdam. Perfectly accessible on feet or on a bicycle. Thanks for the history lesson.
vertel hun dat niet, we willen niet zoveel toeristen hebben.
The relief of Leiden is celebrated every year on 3 October. A common meal is part of the celebration. The pilgrims lived quit some time in Leiden, 12 to 20 years. Some historians think that thanksgiving in the USA is inspired by this 3 October celebrating. The song "We Gather Together”, linked to thanksgiving, is a Dutch song
As a Spaniard living in NL, it never ceases to amuse me that a national dish here is just random mash potato and sausage tercio leftovers
It just goes to illustrate how bland the rest of the traditional food here is/was. ; )
You forgot to retreat? :x joke
Go to England and try bangers and mash 😮
@@mfhulskemper At that time there were no potatoes in Holland. People ate pastinaken instead. Sort of white carrot.
The recipe is a celebration on how nice a dish one can make out of so little special food ingredients in difficult times. It exemplifies Dutch culture that those chose such a humble recipe over one that highlights for instance exquise ingredients.
Interestingly, historians found out that the hunger was deliberately exaggerated (the city still had horses and cheese when the watergeuzen came in) as that psychologically bound both the katholics and protestants under a collective suffering after Leiden was freed.
The thousands of deaths were caused by the plague and that surely felt like a punishment and was hard to accept if you felt you were on the "right side" enduring the seige. Leiden still had plenty Katholics empathizing with the Spanish, so the collective starving caused by the seige stuck better for solidarity among catholics and protestants than the plague
Catholic*
@@schnoz2372 Not everyone is a native English speaker and correcting them only makes you seem unbearable. In dutch we say katholiek and seeing how they are reacting under a video about the dutch, this might be the reason they spelled it the way they did.
@@jessie-ht7bc no corrections == no improvements.
@@YK-dx4ux we aren't on youtube to improve.
If you’d like to learn more and live in or are they panning on visiting the Netherlands a great place to visit is the Museum De Lakenhal in Leiden. A lot of the images and information came from it when I visited over the summer.
Interesting fact about the sea beggars: their name in Dutch is ‘Geuzen’, which is derived from the French term ‘Les Gueux’, meaning ‘Beggars’. The term was coined as an insult by the French (similar to how drinking alcohol for courage is called Dutch courage, thanks to the English) but they liked it so they took the name for themselves and sported it proudly.
Yes, it was used towards the lower nobles who came to Brussel to demand and end to religious persecutions from the representants of the king of Spain. "Ils ne sont pas que des gueux". They are only beggars. The geuzen became the name of the resistance and the Watergeuzen became the terror of the seas for the Spaniards.
They also had the Geuzenpenning, a medaillon showing their allegiance, called the halve maen or half moon, not by accident the name of the ship that sailed up the Hudson by the captain in Dutch service with the same name.
we got a dish from this war. its called Hutspot. the spanish left it behind. and since there was no food the people of leiden discovered it and ate it. was good apparently and now it is our national dish. its pretty tasty if you make it correctly. just a random fact for you all
maar dat is gewoon peen en uien toch?
@@cerdjee4918 Aardappel puree (dus zelf puree maken van aardappels) Wortels en ui. En op het nederlands doen we er nog spekjes door heen. je kan het afmaken met Jus van de spekjes maar dat moet je zelf weten. maar ja dit is het over het algemeen.
@@metalvideos1961m'n vader zegt altijd: bruine hutspot is beter dan oranje. We bakken eerst runderlappen en dan doen we de wortelen, de uien en de aardappels erbij in. Zonder spekjes want je hebt er al vlees in. Zeker waard om te testen!
Hey Geography Geek, if your interested in another topic that involves the Netherlands and protection by water I recommend looking into the ''IJssel linie''. Its the same principal as the waterlinies of the Netherlands during the 17th and 18th century, but during the cold war. It was a secret project of using the river IJssel to create a large body of water to stop the Sovjet Union of occupying the harbers of Holland (many Rotterdam) in case of a outbreak of WW3. Was classified for a long period of time.
Amazing video, super well made and accurate! Thanks for creating this!
I appreciate it!
I live in Leiden in quite a notable historical house. The first owners (brother van Duivenbode) of my house held the carrier pigeons used by the prince of Orange. Safe to say I have a nice story to tell to guests!
Awesome! I wonder if the Spanish tried capturing or shooting down the pigeons.
As an proud Leidenaar I enjoyed this! So interesting to learn about my own city
Really? All I saw was a long ad and no history. It's a joke. Put more effort in his stupid ad than the info on the Dutch
Not a single native Leienaar would call himself a "Leidenaar" 🤡
@@mitchellmarijt3941 hahaha fair
Recipe of Hutspot: pealed potatoes with little water in a pot, a layer of carrots, cut in little pieces, and a layer of cut unions on top. Let it simmer for half an hour, add salt, pepper and nutmeg according to taste, and mash it up. Served with gravy (and usually stewed beef).
In those days, the potato hadn't arrived in the Netherlands as it originally came from South America. The original hutspot the Spaniards left behind on their camp fires was (probably) made with white beans, parsnip, carrot and onion (witte bonen, pastinaak, peen en ui). Potatoes became a staple of the Dutch diet at the end of the 80-year war.
Don't forget that Nutmeg in those days was EXTREMELY expensive. Only the super rich could afford it.
Thanks for another great creation! 👌🏼✌🏼
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@@lanebatts26 Are you a patreon of this channel?!
Thank you!
if you want to make an other video on the ''rampjaar 1672'' (year of disaster) the ''groningen ontzet'' or ''bommenberend'' is a cool topic to talk about its about the siege of groningen by the bishop of munster
my ancestors survived this siege :) We've lived in Leiden since the early 1500's, thanks for making this video.
I really like the map at the start of the video of the Dutch country. The name of some cities are spelled the same even nowadays, and some are shorter then than they are now. I was wondering where you found the map? Thanks for your reply!
a detail: the 80 years war started in 1568, not 1566. It was triggered by an event though that took place in 1566: an iconoclasm.
The Dutch Revolt started gradually. With prosecution of the protestants, Higher taxes. Centralized government, already under Charles V.
This all has led to major unrest in population, local government and nobility. The iconoclasm was one of the signs that a true revolt was about to happen. Later on Dutch historians agreed that the 'plea of the nobles' in 1568 was the start of the organized revolt.
But historians and history books can take other events as the starting point.
@@dutchman7623 *1568 (just a typo I see).
I knew someone would jump in to give extra info. I understood that the iconoclasm was a major event contributing to the start of the war, but that's what I learned at school anyway. Of course it won't ever be the only reason, as usual :)
@@SirThanksalot_1 Oops! Thanks! I corrected it.
But yeah, tensions started brewing, and it was a slow process towards open warfare.
Defragged History (YT) has some beautiful and extended information about it. I can really recommend her!
I also live in Leiden and study at the University. Nice video!
Leuk om iets van je stadje te zien
Yoo, I’m living in the Netherlands and idk is kinda a running joke that in Leiden is nothing going on really, but damn I love history and now I wanna go there and swim in history hababab. Awesome video
Thank you! If you go to Leiden the Museum De Lakenhal is a great place to learn about the Siege of Leiden. A lot of the images in this video came from there.
It's true there's not a lot to do there lol. But it's still well worth a visit for a few days. Go to de twee speighels on a Monday night for some good jazz and definitely wander around that area of the city in the day time. The hortus botanicus in leiden is the oldest botanical garden in the Netherlands and also well worth a visit
I'm just wondering, do you have links for the maps used? I'm Dutch myself but I love to see old maps of the netherlands, but can't find these anywhere
Very cool video.
Thank you!
Hello, Dutch guy here first of all well done! Even your pronunciation of Dutch words wasn't terrible (it's a hard language to learn) and as off today if we as a nation would that same area the area would first need to evacuate about 2 million people with half of that number being the population of Rotterdam.
Hi, nice video! I was wondering if you would be willing to share where you found the tapestry that you show at 5:00? Apparently I live exactly on the place where the maps shows that the dikes were broken, and I would love to see the tapestry for myself!
Thank you! It’s at the Museum De Lakenhal in Leiden.
Hi, nice vid. I was born on de lammenschans were Cornelus Jopenszoon found the hutspot. 😋
This is probably off topic but I wanted to ask; Does anyone know or suggest me any app for making maps like physical maps, the surface of the earth ect. I would really like some help.
Not a phone app but ArcGIS or QGIS.
And yet still learning things from my own country.
Ngl. That sponser was a fucking masterclass in selling something to someone else.
Hi I’m from the Netherlands and I remember my history teacher telling what happend in Lijden. Your story is so much more interesting because of your great storytelling.
Ja ik kan zien aan hoe je Leiden schrijft dat je uit nederland komt 😣 knuppel...
You should check out the liberation of Brielle
April 1st holiday is wildly celebrated because of defeating the Spanish in 1952
"Hutsepot" isn't really a dish, it's just a word for stew. It could really contain anything, usually various vegetables and occasionally some meat.
Very minor detail but we call it "The Dutch revolt" nowadays. Saying it was a revolution is incorrect, as the revolt wasn't a one sided Dutch vs Spaniard thing, nor was it about Dutch liberty or anything like that.
i was thinking ... how the cuts of land fit together like puzzle pieces 🤔🤔
Wow did not know that hutspot is in fact a Spanish dish 👍🏼
I’m from leiden its a fantastic City and the History is solid
the Dutch pirates were called the 'Watergeuzen', which were protestants that fled from the Spanish.
Who knew so many people from leiden watched your videos
Talks about hutspot shows stampot peen en ui..... Its two wholly different dishes. Although the proper hutspot that is more a stew with broken up pieces of potatoes is going into memories lost. But anyone interested. It's called huts not stamp. Huts being shaking stap being stamping
The Netherlands have border disputes with the ocean.
My city! ❤
Hutspot
Finally, Leiden!
The Netherlands: the lords of water
watch defragged history its all about the 80 yrs war and the netherlands great channel
Leiden...
My birthplace.
It did backfire against the France due to winter if my history knowledge serves me correctly
Ha ima early bird today 😂
Ik Proud of my land for all the inventions it Made like the submarine and this 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
Imagine celebrating by eating Herring
I just watched a 9 minute video about a story that has been told to me since i was 5...
I was born and raised in Leiden.
As per tradition GEKOLONISEERD
That story about the pigeons was inaccurate. It was Willem Cornelisz van Duivenbode and his brothers who defended the walls of Leiden and sended out his own pigeons from out of the city during the famine instead of eating them which reached Willem of Orange with pivotal information gathered by “spies” who had to do horrible things. That act won him the war. Van Duivenbode was the lute player in the church. Which earned honarary titles and heraldry. With papal symbols and all. Ironic is that he kicked down the esthablisment he was serving by sending out the pigeons. Cause when the sea beggars relieved the city the dutch papal Sint Pieterskerk church was overtaken by the germanic order who hated papalism and formed a new establisment. ‘Liever Turcks’ they said.
It's strange how you mention a lot of problems in your advert and then use a company that has been one f the mayor players in creating and/or worsening these problems to push the product in your advert.
I bought cars and guns...working pretty well.
00:25 I can see my house
Oh, please tell me Alkmaar is going to be next!
I never knew hutspot was Spanish. My whole life is a lie
Many Dutch traditions are from Spain.
You forgot to mention the innumerable deaths by overeating after the city fell. It is a less known and less promoted part of Leiden's freedom.
Lalala Leiden
Iam fom te Nederlands
There were some other factors present that need to be understood. First of all, the Spanish had broken the resistance of the city of Haarlem, probably by treason as they simply walked in during the night through one of the gates. What happened next is beyond any description. They inflicted the worst possible tortures on the population, they killed and maimed like crazy, it was called "The Spanish Fury". Worse than the Spanish Inquisition, another Spanish invention that became notorious as a torturous murder squad. So, the people in Leiden had the hellish prospect of immense death after the most painful torture imaginable or starvation with the hope of liberation. It was a no-brainer but still, there were idiots that preferred the Spanish. It is exactly like today with the Trumpists and the Ukrainian nationalists who think suppression under fascism is better than happiness and freedom.
Uit gouden aren schiep god de Leidenaren en uit het restant de rest van het land!
GEKOLONISEERD
The Puritans left the Netherlands because it was too progressive, with too much freedom of religion. They were extremely conservative and saw their children pick up liberal ideas, which they hated, to the point they left for the US.
Another part of the myth is that they were very early to arrive to the New World, which wasn't the case. It had been colonised for centuries by then, but their campaigning and religious marketing worked wonders. Even the spot they supposedly landed, Plymouth Rock, is incorrect, as they landed way further north from there. The rock in question was made the official landing site because a man suddenly remembered a family member telling him about the stone and the pilgrims when he was a kid. No joke.
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Saw the title and was instantly reminded of my German ex girlfriend 😪😪
How am I supposed to take someone seriously who's openly shilling for the nosey guys.
@7:04 that is a myth.
Not acurrate at all
gekoloniseerd
I'm pretty sure the pilgrims were not avoiding persecution. They were much more likely asked to leave cause they were vocally against everyone else in England
As someone with 450 years family history in Leiden i can assure you that students are a worse threat to our city and culture than what the spaniards could ever be
The art they are promoting is not art....
Wake up...🧐
Why i never hear about Alkmaar... there the victory started!
willem, prince of oranje... not orange... its a name not a fruit.
You know orange is also how you say the colour right?
You do know that Orange refers to a city and principality in Southern France of which he was prince of?
Besides Stadhouder he was literally the Prince of a Principality in France called Orange. And so where his successors up until the principality was abolished. Only AFTER that became it a symbolic title.
So yeah. Orange/Oranje has basically nothing to do with Dutch culture, and only became interwoven with Dutch culture due to coincidence.
Prins van oranje.
Not Prince of Orange.
You don't translate names, certainly royal names.
I'd say gratz, you f'd this up.
Exactly the opposite. It is general practice to translate Royal names
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You can't talk about climate change and ignore weather manipulation, global dimming, contrails spraying.
Yes. I can actually lol
I am going to be sorry, but what is global dimming?
The Dutch also have a long history of slavery. But nobody wants to talk about that
If about the halve of the Netherlands is “nobody”… then, indeed nobody wants to talk about that!🙄
Literally everybody is talking about that.
@@pangaea5258 people just like to repeat things like that… It’s one way to grab attention!
You could throw a dart at a map of Europe and hit a country with a history of slavery, go find another channel to try starting controversy
It is standard curriculum history teaching. Same with Indonesia and colonisation. And piracy and stuff. The point of history teaching is to learn from the mistakes of the past. That the gory details of all these whole thing do not get much attention is mainly to prevent kids having nightmares. In high school it is repeated with some graphic examples. You'd have to live under a rock not to get confronted with the less glorious aspects of the past.
Heard "climate change" and stopped viewing immediately.
Ah yes, rising Sea levels..., the reason why for example Hussein Obama bought a 12 million dollar mansion at the waterfront. 🤡🤣
Shameful ad push
Laten we wel ff duidelijk zijn hiero: als je in stevenshof woont ben je GEEN leijenaar
Hutspot