I wish I had heard this earlier in my career. It took me years to realize that being the funniest guy in the room and being well liked isn't the best thing for leadership principles.
The comment about waiting reminded me of a favorite quote "Do you have the patience to wait Till your mud settles and the water is clear? Can you remain unmoving Till the right action arises by itself?" Lao tzu
Am I the only person that literally has to adjust the EQ when listening to Jocko? I had to make a preset specifically for his podcast that drops the bass out LoL. It's an observation that I found interesting. I would be willing to bet that no matter how chaotic a situation is that if he intended to get your attention he could do so. Thanks Jocko for the work that you put into all of your content.
I have resting B-face, but I have this weird habit that freaks people out. When things suck I smile. The more the situation sucks, sometimes, I'll even laugh. On some occasions it's nervousness; once during IDF scared the Fk out a peer. But at the gym I feel good when I'm struggling; I know I'm going to get better.
Only time it is productive to brag in my opinion would be if you are calming someone down. “I’m the best at starting a fire you’ve ever seen” if you were in a survival situation and didn’t want your companions to completely wig out. That being said, you DAMN SURE better be able to start up that fire. Quicker the better.
I put the plug in the jug 10 years ago, best move I ever made. I got drunk after my Father's funeral, a Korean war veteran and good man. That still haunts me for disrespecting his memory like that.
After an 18 mile foot patrol/movement to contact that took all night and just after the frost had melted off, sitting on the side of a cold rocky mountain, a few of us heard the end of the radio call. "Charlie company has missed their point. You are now the main attack force." A "beefed up" platoon of 4 skeletonized machine-gun crews (gunners and AGs only), 5 saw gunners, a handful of 203 gunners, and a few NCOs with m4s. The platoon Sergeant replied with "copy" before handing the set back to the LT. Grizzled and suddenly full of super natural energy, he turned to regard his men, "YOU MEN WANNA SEE A FIGHT? CAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO GET OUR ASSES KICKED" LT, got on the radio to stack up air. A couple of privates went as pale as the frost that had evaporated just 30 minutes prior. Claymores got set, the water we had left got drank, and we hunkered down behind what rocks we could. Not one second after the last man got into position; 89 bad-guys decided to test the mountain... They never knew what hit them. One of the best mornings of my life. Everything went wrong, and everything after went right. Sometimes Murphy's law is the most incredible thing you'll ever experience.
I'm currently in PA for work and stopped by a Vitamin shoppe to get Mölk and Discipline Go. They were sold out of the cases but had singles. Really love the healthy energy and protein options now I need to try the greens and creatine. Thanks Jocko to you and your team for all your hard work!
This is a great Podcast, great interview of a super humble consummate professional Sniper..JP..I Left home as a teenager, who could not swim lol...into the US Navy. Graduated from A school on Coronado Island into the Nuclear weapons field, and immediately went to Lebanon with the 6th fleet. I did 6 yrs. I love to see the stories, of how the Navy changed the lives of people, and their experiences. Hooyah brothers, thanks for yet another great interview and sharing your experiences, greatly appreciated. 👍 💪
Powerfully insightful episode, thank you, gentlemen! @JP @Jocko how about an EF community water only fast for 21 or 40 days. That’s a great fast, not chewing food. Let’s take it up a notch with a water only fast. I’ll volunteer to be part of the leaders by example!
I love the deep dive into military tactics and strategy by warriors like these who have lived it. We are so blessed to have this content for free. God bless you Jocko, Echo, and JP
Jocko, what is your opinion on the massive amount of over dose deaths directly caused by the cartels which have killed more Americans than the entire middle eastern conflicts by 5 times? Also what is your opinion on the lack of leadership to stop such things happening on American soil?
I do that all the time. "Did I close the garage door" "did I lock back & front door of office" & "did I turn stove/roster oven off" You do some things do second nature, and many times you'll be muti tasking. On the phone when locking office or leaving the house etc. That you can't remember if you did the basics... I've gotten better at it, but I still do it a lot. Cause even though I've never not closed/locked doors or turn off oven etc. I think that's part of my mom's ocd. Lol. She used to call me in Am before school to make sure she unplugged her curling iron. I'm Also prior & it's almost like the basics come second nature. But, if it pops in your head & you're only 5 min away from office or home, that thought will come in your head. And at that point if you can't trigger something that reminded you of locking a door etc. You are gonna turn around & double check, because the ramifications of if you did make that mistake, far outweighs the 5 min of your time. Lol. I'll get to the stop sign 3 houses from my house in my neighborhood & just back up a couple houses (the rd is curved with tress so I can't see till I hit next door neighbors house. With Pets in the house, that's my biggest fear. My daughter is 17 so the fire with her has gotten a lil less, because she knows all the points of egress from her room window, back sliders etc. But, once that thought pops in ur head of "did I lock or turn off stove" (also in my case if I'm last to leave the house, let the cat out of my daughter's room, so she don't piss in her bed from being locked up all day in her room. Cause that's like a 3 hr process of washing sheets, comforters, blankets etc. Now that, I never forget. I might if 4got to let her out cause I didn't see my wife or daughters notes. But when asked I definitely remember if I did or not. I think that's different because I'm having an interaction with something that I have a connection with . I gotta go in there, have her roll over & pet her belly , then say "time 2 get out" & she bounces. That interaction makes it rememberble. That's why I put a few sticky notes in my car. "Lock doors" 'garage door closed " So I'll tap them when I leave house or office, just as a point of reference. . Cause if you're say talking on the phone when you are locking the door, without any reinforcement, it's so easy to not remember ot have a point of reference 4 locking said door since it's second nature. Just me tapping the sticky note note, it automatically puts a distinct memory that u did it.
1:06:56 and that's what my dad didn't do. He and our mother never let us socialize much and we always had study for school. And now, my brothers and I have socializing deficiencies that other people don't. Not ot mention, we didn't do sports or martial arts. #hownottobeafather
T 72 Tanks maximum range 125mm main gun 5000 meters T-72M and T-72M1 can sustain direct hits from the 105mm gun equipped M1 Abrams at up to 2,000 meter range. The later T-72Ms and T-72M1s are equipped with laser rangefinders ensuring high hit probabilities at ranges of 2,000 meters and below. M1 Abrams The tank cannon has a maximum effective range of about 3000 meters, and precise aim is required to make a hit. The self-guided missile, however, can - like Longbow Hellfire - be effective to more than 8000 meters, and the electronic brain continually corrects the flight path as necessary.
I laugh when computer programmers demand to be called software engineers. This is like a construction worker demanding to be called a structural engineer since they built the building.
Jp, thanks for your time and service. As I listen to you many similarities are revealed which we share. My daughter is eighteen and and I am doing the same in my everyday activities. I want her to see how see can expect to be treated. And in order for that happen a certain standard has to be maintained. She needed to treat people with dignity and respect. And for my son who is the same as yours by name and size. He is observing how to treat others including his mom and sister . And everyone else to. How to move along as a young man. And how being big and strong Only allows you to carry a heavier load and take more of a blow. Not so you may impose your will on others around you. Enjoy camping with your crew. I hope the girls slay you on catching more fish. And the young man keeps the fire wood pile stocked. My girl crushes me in the Great Lakes. And to Jocko, much respect.) thanks. And Echo too. Great productions
Pls bring major vivek jacob 9 para sf ghost operator from 🇮🇳 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿 he's a legend of indian special forces pls make this happen I want to see him on international level 😇
One of the disabled team members could see a storm coming last week. He said, you've known each other a long time. I turned to him and said I've had Teddy Bears a long time too, and I enjoy their company more. To my complete surprise a sixty year old man exclaimed; YEAH! Just because you get older doesn't mean you can't have a Teddy Bear. I thought that was cute as Hell even if it came from an unknown deep place.
There's a very important corollary to the initial law. No plan survives first contact with 'the enemy'. The reality is, that no plan even survives first contact with the people, who are on the side, the plan was designed to help out. That is the real truth. One doesn't even need 'an enemy' at times. Human beings are perfectly capable of doing it all by themselves. And often do.
It doesn't have to be a deliberate 'self sabbotage', although that can happen. The history of young men and women going to begin their careers, by laying into place the first 'corner stone' of that plan, by going to higher level education as young adults. That history is littered and strewn with such examples, of almost deliberate self sabbotage. Why? I guess, because human beings are not robots. As a person once explained to me. Human beings are more complicated than that. Robert E. Lee once learned the difference between 'billiard balls' and Newton's laws of physics, and human organizations. One time in early July in 1863. Noah Andre Trudeau's 2013 anniversary lecture on the battle at Gettysburg being one useful coordination to examine, from the battle or tactics point of view. If one actually excavates down into what 'what can go wrong, will go wrong' really implies in real life circumstances. It's normally someone one 'your own side' (not even on the opposite side), who decided to do something. Or decides not to do something. Which brings the whole enterprise tumbling down. The point that Trudeau was making in his historical example, was of planning and implementation. One comes across it often in infrastructure, utilities and capital investment. Where some worthy goal or aspiration falls apart. Because the partners and collaborators all conspired, to lead the entire project failure.
It relates to that argument that Jocko sometimes make (where leaders who are 'in the trenches' in battle sometimes need to detach temporarily from the cut and trust of what is happening). In order to evaluate what is happening from a broader perspective. And example of that, is where in the legal system. The convicted or suspected, or alleged to have done X, Y or Z. Is entitled to some type of legal representation. Someone who might provide at least one other perspective. And the reason for that, is that often the person who has gotten themselves to that position. May have checked out already at that point, and is not capable any longer of seeing what their options are. What their best interests are. The point is that, it shouldn't be a case of where one makes it totally easy for the prosecution team to make their case. The prosecution if they do have a case, should be made to earn it (a bit like the point that I heard J.P. make about combative sports). Where superior opponents are still required to earn their win. The convicted are often very poor advocates for their own case. And often in real life, when a strategy or plan is required to do something. It is because someone's 'back is against the wall'. Some threat has become real. One has to solve this problem. Often times, the people who are in that situation are not the best advocates for their own case either. They have checked out.
I worked on a production line for an American multi-national once, and our task (as three thouand directly employed factory staff), was to build and ship a million units of production each quarter. That was approximately 'four million' in around 2001-02 for that geographical region. That was the size of the market demand at that time for the product. Which was gaining market share from it's competitors. In the recession of 2001-02, one of it's competitors after a decade had left the market entirely and had consolidated it's operations back in the United States again. It meant that from our company's perspective they were now on a growth trajectory, and production expanded by another 'hundred thousand' or so units, each and every quarter. That was, at the end of each year, around half a million additional units had to be built, quality assured and shipped to customers each year. And the company would have to do that for the foreseeable future (essentially getting to double it's level of output in the next four to five years it was anticipated). It did so, not by constructing a larger factory, which was already huge. By altering the sophistication and investment in the production line that it already had (they took down parts of the existing lines and re-built them in stages).
The point being, that quality control came under pressure as production volumes increased. And something happened, where you take on new staff to 'build' the product. The new staff may not have been as experienced or capable. And what would happen, based on the way the staff hours worked. One shift would end, as the other shift arrived to work. And the build staff would 'release' defective product downsteam of them, just as their shift was over. In the hopes that someone else would be forced to deal with, whatever kind of problem or technical fault was causing them bother. This is just by way of an analogy. Often the systems of accountability (everyone nowadays likes that word 'accountability'). It gets woven into every blanket nowadays. We need to have accountability. Projects in total are made out of many different parts that have to fit together. There is a sequence of activities that take place. And projects are broken down by project managers into what are known as 'work breakdown structures', or a WBS. The Achilles heel of the WBS approach, is that it enables each stakeholder to do their little part. Wait for when the 'shift change' happens, and release the dud build's onto the conveyor belt, and walk away. The up-side of that approach, is that you retain your 'perfect score' from a point of view, of how the system of accountability was constructed. And people find ways in which to circumvent the systems of accountability that are made.
That was a very successful corporation with build factories in most geographical regions around the globe at one point. And it still has a large global presence. The point is though, it didn't have that thing. Of where the leadership pushed from the bottom up. It mainly worked in the opposite direction. It found itself operating at a point in time, where the market had converged upon one simple technological solution. One alternative. There was less innovation around that product happening, rather than more. And it became simply a game of price, and volume. They were set up in order to create the maximum volume for the lowest price. That was the strategy. The reason to provide the example, is to explain another thing (I was hoping it would arise in the fourteen, or twenty Murphy's Laws that are listed in the episode 376 of Jocko Podcast). I didn't hear it mentioned. So here it is, often times in enterprise, in projects and in missions that are carefully planned (or even planned in broad brushstrokes, so as to be flexible enough in their implementation). It is a lot like the convicted criminal. The one thing that does not have an ambassador, a champion or an advocate. Is the mission plan, the mission statement or the conceptual framework itself. What happens to projects in reality is they become showcases for all kinds of sub-component solutions. Which wind up inside of the project. A whole pile of widgets with massive, successful brand names. That are intended to be the solution to a part of the problem. And projects tend to carry all of these 'show ponies' is what I call them. The project becomes a shop window, or display cabinet for X, Y or Z component, where it's brand is clearly visible. And the project itself has no champion at all. Or if it does, it is not someone who is able to compete, with the 'hard sell' that comes from the sellers of all of these component-part solutions. It's the equivalent to the people in the 'build cells' (each workstation or area the product was assembled in, was called a 'build cell'). Each build cell had two or three people in it, working back-to-back. I think they were supposed to have a junior and a senior builder in each cell (the junior would ask the senior for assistance maybe in learning how to assemble the product from it's parts). What happens though, in the course of putting together orders of forty or fifty units of production (the customer would normally order a quantity of a certain item, and our task was to create that quantity as soon as the order arrived). So your component parts suppliers had to be responsive in that whole chain too, on the back-end.
Love that we got to have JP on here again. I wanted to point out that we(male) don’t alway want the wife or Gf to have back. There are plenty of examples of how that’s gone sideways. Another solid insightful discussion, thank you
A perfect plan is a plan that is far too rigid and fragile to be practical in the real world. Any bump into that frozen glass window is going to break it
I wish I had heard this earlier in my career. It took me years to realize that being the funniest guy in the room and being well liked isn't the best thing for leadership principles.
You could also just have watched the Office :)
Michael is a great leader
I needed to hear this
How can I help J&J
JP’s honest take on life and willingness to help others is inspiring… thanks, as always, for the work you guys do.
The comment about waiting reminded me of a favorite quote "Do you have the patience to wait
Till your mud settles and the water is clear?
Can you remain unmoving
Till the right action arises by itself?"
Lao tzu
Echo’s commentary on jocko messing with people is priceless 😂
Bicepman's son saying that Commando is Jocko was on point.
"Sir, were surrounded"
Captain- "excellent, now they can't escape"
Gotta find the positive side of things.
The "no p*rn for a year" thing was particularly helpful this episode. Thanks J.P.
Am I the only person that literally has to adjust the EQ when listening to Jocko? I had to make a preset specifically for his podcast that drops the bass out LoL. It's an observation that I found interesting. I would be willing to bet that no matter how chaotic a situation is that if he intended to get your attention he could do so. Thanks Jocko for the work that you put into all of your content.
I have resting B-face, but I have this weird habit that freaks people out. When things suck I smile. The more the situation sucks, sometimes, I'll even laugh. On some occasions it's nervousness; once during IDF scared the Fk out a peer. But at the gym I feel good when I'm struggling; I know I'm going to get better.
Only time it is productive to brag in my opinion would be if you are calming someone down. “I’m the best at starting a fire you’ve ever seen” if you were in a survival situation and didn’t want your companions to completely wig out.
That being said, you DAMN SURE better be able to start up that fire. Quicker the better.
I put the plug in the jug 10 years ago, best move I ever made. I got drunk after my Father's funeral, a Korean war veteran and good man. That still haunts me for disrespecting his memory like that.
Appreciative of this podcast, thank you!
This is like the new Men's Health Magazine.
Remember that?
These guy's have the right stuff.
After an 18 mile foot patrol/movement to contact that took all night and just after the frost had melted off, sitting on the side of a cold rocky mountain, a few of us heard the end of the radio call.
"Charlie company has missed their point. You are now the main attack force."
A "beefed up" platoon of 4 skeletonized machine-gun crews (gunners and AGs only), 5 saw gunners, a handful of 203 gunners, and a few NCOs with m4s.
The platoon Sergeant replied with "copy" before handing the set back to the LT.
Grizzled and suddenly full of super natural energy, he turned to regard his men,
"YOU MEN WANNA SEE A FIGHT? CAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO GET OUR ASSES KICKED"
LT, got on the radio to stack up air. A couple of privates went as pale as the frost that had evaporated just 30 minutes prior. Claymores got set, the water we had left got drank, and we hunkered down behind what rocks we could. Not one second after the last man got into position; 89 bad-guys decided to test the mountain... They never knew what hit them.
One of the best mornings of my life.
Everything went wrong, and everything after went right.
Sometimes Murphy's law is the most incredible thing you'll ever experience.
bloody brilliant as usual.
gent's do the hagakure next .
its Murphy's on a whole zen level.
I'm currently in PA for work and stopped by a Vitamin shoppe to get Mölk and Discipline Go. They were sold out of the cases but had singles. Really love the healthy energy and protein options now I need to try the greens and creatine. Thanks Jocko to you and your team for all your hard work!
This is a great Podcast, great interview of a super humble consummate professional Sniper..JP..I Left home as a teenager, who could not swim lol...into the US Navy. Graduated from A school on Coronado Island into the Nuclear weapons field, and immediately went to Lebanon with the 6th fleet. I did 6 yrs. I love to see the stories, of how the Navy changed the lives of people, and their experiences. Hooyah brothers, thanks for yet another great interview and sharing your experiences, greatly appreciated. 👍 💪
Really interesting interview Jocko & Co.! Nice work as usual. 👌
I love you guys and the messages you send.
Thank you for being consistently solid.
If the enemy is in range so are you! precisely!
Commando is a classic.
Murphy's law is a big thing in anything maritime
Powerfully insightful episode, thank you, gentlemen! @JP @Jocko how about an EF community water only fast for 21 or 40 days. That’s a great fast, not chewing food. Let’s take it up a notch with a water only fast. I’ll volunteer to be part of the leaders by example!
I love the deep dive into military tactics and strategy by warriors like these who have lived it. We are so blessed to have this content for free. God bless you Jocko, Echo, and JP
Jocko please get Mark Billingham on your podcast!
So many good statements that I'd like to share. It's sort of like doing a direct quote with emphasis when it's in a video form...
Awesome! Always a treat when JP comes on :)
"reach for perfection and fall into excellence". Vince Lombardi
man i wish i could just watch that retirement haha! so good.
Jocko, what is your opinion on the massive amount of over dose deaths directly caused by the cartels which have killed more Americans than the entire middle eastern conflicts by 5 times? Also what is your opinion on the lack of leadership to stop such things happening on American soil?
Great point!
I do that all the time. "Did I close the garage door" "did I lock back & front door of office" & "did I turn stove/roster oven off"
You do some things do second nature, and many times you'll be muti tasking. On the phone when locking office or leaving the house etc.
That you can't remember if you did the basics... I've gotten better at it, but I still do it a lot.
Cause even though I've never not closed/locked doors or turn off oven etc. I think that's part of my mom's ocd. Lol. She used to call me in Am before school to make sure she unplugged her curling iron.
I'm Also prior & it's almost like the basics come second nature. But, if it pops in your head & you're only 5 min away from office or home, that thought will come in your head. And at that point if you can't trigger something that reminded you of locking a door etc. You are gonna turn around & double check, because the ramifications of if you did make that mistake, far outweighs the 5 min of your time. Lol.
I'll get to the stop sign 3 houses from my house in my neighborhood & just back up a couple houses (the rd is curved with tress so I can't see till I hit next door neighbors house.
With Pets in the house, that's my biggest fear. My daughter is 17 so the fire with her has gotten a lil less, because she knows all the points of egress from her room window, back sliders etc.
But, once that thought pops in ur head of "did I lock or turn off stove" (also in my case if I'm last to leave the house, let the cat out of my daughter's room, so she don't piss in her bed from being locked up all day in her room.
Cause that's like a 3 hr process of washing sheets, comforters, blankets etc.
Now that, I never forget. I might if 4got to let her out cause I didn't see my wife or daughters notes.
But when asked I definitely remember if I did or not.
I think that's different because I'm having an interaction with something that I have a connection with .
I gotta go in there, have her roll over & pet her belly , then say "time 2 get out" & she bounces.
That interaction makes it rememberble. That's why I put a few sticky notes in my car. "Lock doors" 'garage door closed "
So I'll tap them when I leave house or office, just as a point of reference. .
Cause if you're say talking on the phone when you are locking the door, without any reinforcement, it's so easy to not remember ot have a point of reference 4 locking said door since it's second nature.
Just me tapping the sticky note note, it automatically puts a distinct memory that u did it.
This episode is next level!
Jocko I really would love to see a chino cut on some tactical outdoorsman pants, is this doable
1:06:56 and that's what my dad didn't do. He and our mother never let us socialize much and we always had study for school. And now, my brothers and I have socializing deficiencies that other people don't. Not ot mention, we didn't do sports or martial arts. #hownottobeafather
Perhaps:
Take the thinnest cut via grit and grind without cutting.
Polish. Don’t force the edge
T 72 Tanks maximum range 125mm main gun 5000 meters
T-72M and T-72M1 can sustain direct hits from the 105mm gun equipped M1 Abrams at up to 2,000 meter range. The later T-72Ms and T-72M1s are equipped with laser rangefinders ensuring high hit probabilities at ranges of 2,000 meters and below.
M1 Abrams
The tank cannon has a maximum effective range of about 3000 meters, and precise aim is required to make a hit. The self-guided missile, however, can - like Longbow Hellfire - be effective to more than 8000 meters, and the electronic brain continually corrects the flight path as necessary.
God bless you JP, Jesus saves!
JP is awesome. I met him at the 2021 Vegas Muster.
Come to Tractor Supply.... Please
im gonna try the greens
Can someone else try to do a Remix that's longer than 5 seconds? Does anyone have insight into why this is a limitation?
Bless
Wouldn't just managing expectations always negate Murphy's law?
Some folks in the reserve around home say they are SWAT (Some Weekends And Thursdays)
Commando II - Starring Jocko 😂😂😂😆😆😆
I laugh when computer programmers demand to be called software engineers. This is like a construction worker demanding to be called a structural engineer since they built the building.
He is in ministry! Oh my goodness
Jocko please do a podcast with Chris Beck.
I love JP
I just rewatched the Jocko/JP series of podcasts last month
a very dope listen
Always good to see JP on the podcast
Spontaneous pneumothorax while welding aluminium
Twice my brother had that before changing career...
Jp, thanks for your time and service.
As I listen to you many similarities are revealed which we share. My daughter is eighteen and and I am doing the same in my everyday activities. I want her to see how see can expect to be treated. And in order for that happen a certain standard has to be maintained. She needed to treat people with dignity and respect.
And for my son who is the same as yours by name and size. He is observing how to treat others including his mom and sister . And everyone else to. How to move along as a young man. And how being big and strong Only allows you to carry a heavier load and take more of a blow. Not so you may impose your will on others around you.
Enjoy camping with your crew. I hope the girls slay you on catching more fish. And the young man keeps the fire wood pile stocked.
My girl crushes me in the Great Lakes.
And to Jocko, much respect.) thanks. And Echo too. Great productions
Spot on!👊🏻🇺🇸👊🏻
Best best best
in england we have a comparable law which is called SODS LAW
15,000 Subscribers gave 0 Likes. ???????? Wtf.
C'mon, JP's Rush Limbaugh in the shadows
Pls bring major vivek jacob 9 para sf ghost operator from 🇮🇳 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿 he's a legend of indian special forces pls make this happen I want to see him on international level 😇
I think some of these are not victim mentality, it's big army GIs just embracing the suck. You accept that shit sucks and you still win.
Please read God's Assassins by Patricia Marchak
Every echo reference is a movie what gives
It would be awesome if you guys could get Elon on the show.
One of the disabled team members could see a storm coming last week. He said, you've known each other a long time. I turned to him and said I've had Teddy Bears a long time too, and I enjoy their company more. To my complete surprise a sixty year old man exclaimed; YEAH! Just because you get older doesn't mean you can't have a Teddy Bear. I thought that was cute as Hell even if it came from an unknown deep place.
GOD *** THE AUTHORITY AND CREATOR ****
There's a very important corollary to the initial law. No plan survives first contact with 'the enemy'. The reality is, that no plan even survives first contact with the people, who are on the side, the plan was designed to help out. That is the real truth. One doesn't even need 'an enemy' at times. Human beings are perfectly capable of doing it all by themselves. And often do.
It doesn't have to be a deliberate 'self sabbotage', although that can happen. The history of young men and women going to begin their careers, by laying into place the first 'corner stone' of that plan, by going to higher level education as young adults. That history is littered and strewn with such examples, of almost deliberate self sabbotage. Why? I guess, because human beings are not robots. As a person once explained to me. Human beings are more complicated than that. Robert E. Lee once learned the difference between 'billiard balls' and Newton's laws of physics, and human organizations. One time in early July in 1863. Noah Andre Trudeau's 2013 anniversary lecture on the battle at Gettysburg being one useful coordination to examine, from the battle or tactics point of view. If one actually excavates down into what 'what can go wrong, will go wrong' really implies in real life circumstances. It's normally someone one 'your own side' (not even on the opposite side), who decided to do something. Or decides not to do something. Which brings the whole enterprise tumbling down. The point that Trudeau was making in his historical example, was of planning and implementation. One comes across it often in infrastructure, utilities and capital investment. Where some worthy goal or aspiration falls apart. Because the partners and collaborators all conspired, to lead the entire project failure.
It relates to that argument that Jocko sometimes make (where leaders who are 'in the trenches' in battle sometimes need to detach temporarily from the cut and trust of what is happening). In order to evaluate what is happening from a broader perspective. And example of that, is where in the legal system. The convicted or suspected, or alleged to have done X, Y or Z. Is entitled to some type of legal representation. Someone who might provide at least one other perspective. And the reason for that, is that often the person who has gotten themselves to that position. May have checked out already at that point, and is not capable any longer of seeing what their options are. What their best interests are. The point is that, it shouldn't be a case of where one makes it totally easy for the prosecution team to make their case. The prosecution if they do have a case, should be made to earn it (a bit like the point that I heard J.P. make about combative sports). Where superior opponents are still required to earn their win. The convicted are often very poor advocates for their own case. And often in real life, when a strategy or plan is required to do something. It is because someone's 'back is against the wall'. Some threat has become real. One has to solve this problem. Often times, the people who are in that situation are not the best advocates for their own case either. They have checked out.
I worked on a production line for an American multi-national once, and our task (as three thouand directly employed factory staff), was to build and ship a million units of production each quarter. That was approximately 'four million' in around 2001-02 for that geographical region. That was the size of the market demand at that time for the product. Which was gaining market share from it's competitors. In the recession of 2001-02, one of it's competitors after a decade had left the market entirely and had consolidated it's operations back in the United States again. It meant that from our company's perspective they were now on a growth trajectory, and production expanded by another 'hundred thousand' or so units, each and every quarter. That was, at the end of each year, around half a million additional units had to be built, quality assured and shipped to customers each year. And the company would have to do that for the foreseeable future (essentially getting to double it's level of output in the next four to five years it was anticipated). It did so, not by constructing a larger factory, which was already huge. By altering the sophistication and investment in the production line that it already had (they took down parts of the existing lines and re-built them in stages).
The point being, that quality control came under pressure as production volumes increased. And something happened, where you take on new staff to 'build' the product. The new staff may not have been as experienced or capable. And what would happen, based on the way the staff hours worked. One shift would end, as the other shift arrived to work. And the build staff would 'release' defective product downsteam of them, just as their shift was over. In the hopes that someone else would be forced to deal with, whatever kind of problem or technical fault was causing them bother. This is just by way of an analogy. Often the systems of accountability (everyone nowadays likes that word 'accountability'). It gets woven into every blanket nowadays. We need to have accountability. Projects in total are made out of many different parts that have to fit together. There is a sequence of activities that take place. And projects are broken down by project managers into what are known as 'work breakdown structures', or a WBS. The Achilles heel of the WBS approach, is that it enables each stakeholder to do their little part. Wait for when the 'shift change' happens, and release the dud build's onto the conveyor belt, and walk away. The up-side of that approach, is that you retain your 'perfect score' from a point of view, of how the system of accountability was constructed. And people find ways in which to circumvent the systems of accountability that are made.
That was a very successful corporation with build factories in most geographical regions around the globe at one point. And it still has a large global presence. The point is though, it didn't have that thing. Of where the leadership pushed from the bottom up. It mainly worked in the opposite direction. It found itself operating at a point in time, where the market had converged upon one simple technological solution. One alternative. There was less innovation around that product happening, rather than more. And it became simply a game of price, and volume. They were set up in order to create the maximum volume for the lowest price. That was the strategy. The reason to provide the example, is to explain another thing (I was hoping it would arise in the fourteen, or twenty Murphy's Laws that are listed in the episode 376 of Jocko Podcast). I didn't hear it mentioned. So here it is, often times in enterprise, in projects and in missions that are carefully planned (or even planned in broad brushstrokes, so as to be flexible enough in their implementation). It is a lot like the convicted criminal. The one thing that does not have an ambassador, a champion or an advocate. Is the mission plan, the mission statement or the conceptual framework itself. What happens to projects in reality is they become showcases for all kinds of sub-component solutions. Which wind up inside of the project. A whole pile of widgets with massive, successful brand names. That are intended to be the solution to a part of the problem. And projects tend to carry all of these 'show ponies' is what I call them. The project becomes a shop window, or display cabinet for X, Y or Z component, where it's brand is clearly visible. And the project itself has no champion at all. Or if it does, it is not someone who is able to compete, with the 'hard sell' that comes from the sellers of all of these component-part solutions. It's the equivalent to the people in the 'build cells' (each workstation or area the product was assembled in, was called a 'build cell'). Each build cell had two or three people in it, working back-to-back. I think they were supposed to have a junior and a senior builder in each cell (the junior would ask the senior for assistance maybe in learning how to assemble the product from it's parts). What happens though, in the course of putting together orders of forty or fifty units of production (the customer would normally order a quantity of a certain item, and our task was to create that quantity as soon as the order arrived). So your component parts suppliers had to be responsive in that whole chain too, on the back-end.
I want to open a christian cafe/artgallety
Do it. I'm not uber religious or anything but I think more light not less in the world makes sense.
May your God bless you.
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Good evening all that could go wrong. 😅
There's a Japanese film that ends with a total amateur killing a professional in a swordfight, but getting killed in the process himself.
get up at 2:30am instead quit being lazy dude
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Love that we got to have JP on here again.
I wanted to point out that we(male) don’t alway want the wife or Gf to have back. There are plenty of examples of how that’s gone sideways.
Another solid insightful discussion, thank you
I wonder if Jocko has read the B.O.H.I.C.A. manual.
Guess what the enemy cannot see me
I think the Spartan race was just a bunch of jockos
third from Australia
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A perfect plan is a plan that is far too rigid and fragile to be practical in the real world.
Any bump into that frozen glass window is going to break it
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Daaammm! I'm in love with you Jocko!
JP is a christian! Oh great!
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First hahahahah
Yayyyy someone give @dresnio1363 a banana
This level of badassery has never been seen with such audaciousness.
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I like JP and I wish him well, but it's such a shame how Jesus is still thing in USA. Obvious lies -- bible and all..
WE WANT FULL DISCLOSURE OF THE SECRET SPACE PROGRAM
What like starlink being a global hypersonic missle defense system?
How can "everything you do is your fault" and "everything is the leader's fault" both be true (just wondering) Like, doesnt everyone have a leader?
1:07:10 sounds like you're trying to micromanage kids in spelling bees :/
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