Such a Beautiful Detailed & Informative Review. Thank you 🙏 Brother. Such an Underrated Channel. Keep doing what you’re doing & how you’re doing. It’s so much Appreciated.
Just purchased this AND a set of 45W solar panels for $199 on Amazon. Couldn't pass up that price for the combo deal. It's my first Ecoflow so I am stoked.
@@beebop4333 No sir. Unfortunately can't share a pic of my Amazon order, but it is indeed a River 3 with 45w panels for $199. I placed the order over the weekend, the bundle has since gone up to $209.
Very nice unit, but I’m waiting until the river 3 plus comes out in November, 600W inverter 2 AC outlets in the back 1 outlet in the front 10ms UPS transfer, and clip on expansion battery
i ordered this from amazon yesterday, then watched your video today as suggested by YT, these devices are definitely listening to us. lol. first time watching your channel, subbed. good job on the review . 👍
For an entry level, small power station this is a very nice redesign. You won’t be able to run much on it but it would be super handy to charge smaller items away from a power source. The Amazon deal with the included solar panels as someone mentioned below would be the way to go on this at $199. That would be a very low investment to get your feet wet on what something like this can do. Nice review, thanks! 👍🏻
The river UPS is rated for 20 ms, unlike the delta 3 plus, which is rated at 10 ms, so they are not the same. Also, the battery pack itself is IP54 rated, not the entire unit.
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsstrangely, EcoFlow seems to be having a hard time figuring out what products they are releasing this year. When they first published these products, there was also a delta 3, which seems to have disappeared. The specs have also changed on several units. Don't know why
Just bought the river 3 bundled with 45 watt solar panel for $321.30 CAD October 8th. Got the solar panel first a few days ago, the model without USB and has 2 thick plus and minus cords proving from a small rectangular control box, will recieve the actual river 3 a week later just before November, was apparently not in stock for a couple weeks. Can't find the river 3+ anywhere for the life of me. Might have prefered that models ability to upgrade battery and power mor powerful appliances.
@ReeWrayOutdoors, I thought you had an ongoing spreadsheet with all the powerstation specs that you reviewed, but can't find it, only the power use one. Thx!
This is not a big issue for me as I really only need mostly the 12v side of this which the 12v plug hole will be occupied all the time, as used in mobile operations to power a CB and rear-view camera system and to charge up small rechargeable lights and have the solar panel which is 60 watts and the covers are rather in the way of my operations, as a survival set-up, the backpack frame is bare bones, I have is a rather larger carrying frame, designed for scavenging as I have a "bucket list" for the Zombie Apocalypse. The backpack system is really designed for 72 hour emergency pack designed to get you back to your safe house zone, allowing for 3 days grace where ever you are held up at. Also the pack will hold the power system requirements, water, and filters for the gas mask, as they are relocated into the pack. It is to make it a lite as possible as a "standard" load-out, and still be able to battle the Undead, as stamina useage of trying to keep with the "normal" load bearing weight one can naturally hold. Having a "redundancy" system on yourself at all times. The CB radio operates better for localized operational ranges, like in a group of a small community. The rearview camera system is mounted to my medivial steel plate helmet for quick glances for sisuation awareness. I would be the smaller groups communications and power centre, if none were not present. Also you could power up a mini Starlink system for internet usage if still operationally of coarse. The mission equiptment -> than can be attached if neccessay to the back pack ontop of the "standard" load out, as you might be taken back ground or an area and make a salilite HQ or a redundant safe house to fall back to, the additional thus is left there for that purpose. As the objective is to carry the torche as long as possible and bounce back to an era of time that will now support us all. Try and cushion the fall of the collaspe and then "sencond generation" and provide innovation ergonomics to keep time in efficencey and effectiveness, and you will have to borrow from yesterday untill you can self maufactor and re-educate the next generation for it. For some one the size of the unit for the River 3 could be of importance, could make them system just pop for them in getting everything to "fit", then it comes to cooling or keeping longivity for this tightness within the frame work of it, a dice role sometimes of slight pros and cons.
Always enjoy your videos. I have noticed on several of your videos that sometimes the DC load capacity tests prove to be more inefficient than the AC load capacity test. I would have assumed that the DC tests would show greater efficiency since there is no conversion of DC to AC. Would you know why one would get better efficiency on A/C over DC? Thank you for your videos and hard work.
Some of the new systems with large inverters, do this by running 48V battery systems instead of 12V. Pecron, Oupes, etc. So all the 12V is made by converting from 48V. Turns out this conversion is less efficient than going from 48V to 120V ac, in some. My Pecron e1500LFP is about the same, actually. This has ramifications for say camping, where the conventional wisdom of running as much on dc as possible, may no longer be true. The oupes Mega2 actually has 2x 48Vdc outputs, but unfortunately I am not aware of any truck or camping equip that uses 48v in the US.
@@dave_in_az Will that explains a lot . Several years ago I purchased a lot of 12V equipment like fans, electric blankets, lights and such for camping and I love that my little jackery 500 can run a 12V fridge for 44 hours and the other can run my cpap for 4 nights with the humidifier. Thanks for responding.
I enjoy your reviews, but think you could make them a lot better with just a little effort. I would like to see you do the UPS test while drawing => 75% of the rated AC output. One way to help with that would be to actually have the PC do some work. EG: have it play a video while transcoding a video. Plug in your guitar amp too, set up your mic and do the AC noise test at the same time. That way, we could easily HEAR the difference in noise levels as well as seeing if the PC keeps chugging.
Love the PC test man!!! I'm looking to buy this, I'm curious if have you ever tried/experienced using it as UPS for your PC on load, like gaming or editing, that sucking maybe like 200+ Watts and then unplugging it?
@Reeway outdoors, are you, or did you do a UPS on the ecoflow river 3 plus product WITH the UPS feature, and if so, does it show on the desktop computer, and IF yes, how much WHs does it get? expanded and or not.
Hey in ups mode, if power goes out long enough to drain the battery, when the power comes back will it automatically power on and work again? Or does it need you to turn the ac output on again?
If I were designing a power station in 2024 I'd have no USB-A ports and all 140W USB-C ports. I completely agree with your sentiment and I'm glad others are finally saying it. Very interesting that the AC inverter is more power efficient than DC. I'd like to see self-consumption (no load) tests demonstrated for AC and DC, the Delta 3 Plus self-consumption is like 35-40W on AC. That's quite a lot, I expect a smaller inverter to be much less though. I can't wait till the River 3 *Plus* gets released, which does have a 10ms UPS like the Delta 3 Plus, unlike the regular River 3, which is 20ms. I am planning to replace all my old lead acid UPS units with the River 3 Plus.
Question 🙋🏻♀️ What brand Solar Panels do you recommend? Thank you for all the great videos you make. I’m a newbie to solar and just recently purchased an EcoFlow Delta 2 😊
He has a bunch of videos on panels, watch them for his already made efforts on recommendation. For the ecoflow delta2, its solar input is: Solar Charging 11-60V, 15A, 500W max So, be sure the Voc for your panels is less than 60V. If you use 2x panels, parallel or series will work fine, but it will only use up to 15A and 500W of power. In series, Voc adds, so they each need to be less than about 28Voc for cold temperature safe limits.
@blupupher No. As a personal rule, I don't do load testing using those boost functions because the drop the voltage pretty severely and would not be suitable for complex electronic loads.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors OK, figured as much, but just wanted to make sure since I have seen higher output on several videos with it. I just got my River 3 a few days ago, but my primary use is as a battery backup for my CPAP, and I have the x-boost turned off. Works great for that, I used it for 8 hours the first night and it used 57% of the charge. Theoretically I can get a full nights use setting the charge level to 20% for a low and 80% for a high, extending the battery life a lot. I have a manual ICE generator for whole home power backup, but wanted something for those times when the power blips out for a few minutes, as well as an occasional overnight camping trip that I had been carrying a large car battery and inverter to use for power.
Please explain the spreadsheet. It does not show how long the reviewed power stations runs devices. I only see a single worksheet, and honestly I don't understand the information in it. Thank you.
@Gwen3344 so first you'll need to download the sheet so you can edit your own copy. Then you would edit the AC Inverter cell to reflect 300W and the battery capacity cell to reflect 245Wh, matching the River 3 specs. The spreadsheet will then show in green what things it can run and the approx runtime of those things .
@@beebop4333 a desktop computer has a built-in power supply that is eight times bigger than external power supply that of a laptop. He mentioned people said a laptop power brick has capacitors in it that would keep the laptop on during UPS transfer, the same holds true for a desktop computer power supply
Are all the your UPS tests flawed? Even power stations without UPS will work in your tests, since they all have pass through mains charging. You're just pulling the AC cord out.
UPS tests are to see how quickly the device can switch from pass through charging to operating off the devices batteries / inverter. This is a good test of the UPS function, do some research into it and see if you can understand why it’s a valid test.
Such a Beautiful Detailed & Informative Review. Thank you 🙏 Brother. Such an Underrated Channel. Keep doing what you’re doing & how you’re doing. It’s so much Appreciated.
Just purchased this AND a set of 45W solar panels for $199 on Amazon. Couldn't pass up that price for the combo deal. It's my first Ecoflow so I am stoked.
I think you ordered the old river 2 for $199
@@beebop4333 No sir. Unfortunately can't share a pic of my Amazon order, but it is indeed a River 3 with 45w panels for $199. I placed the order over the weekend, the bundle has since gone up to $209.
@@ready_player_jay2292 yeah this deal is still there, you have to be a prime member in order to see this deal.
@ready_player_jay2292 it's still $199 I just ordered one
In Canada we get the 209$ price without the solar panel. Still a decent deal though.
Use another ecoflow to create a variable load but changing the AC charge rate. You get 50W increments that way.
Last week I got a deal that included the bag and solar panel for only $199 on the Ecoflow site! Crazy! 🥰
I have tried several different brands, but my River 2 units always outperform in every area.
yes more type C ports. but also bring back the USBC-IN port for charging so I could use my laptop charger to recharge the River
@@planesandbikes7353 agreed! Excellent catch!
Very nice unit, but I’m waiting until the river 3 plus comes out in November, 600W inverter 2 AC outlets in the back 1 outlet in the front 10ms UPS transfer, and clip on expansion battery
Thank you for the review.
Anotheramazing video! Thanks! Just picked one up for $169. Very happy
i ordered this from amazon yesterday, then watched your video today as suggested by YT, these devices are definitely listening to us. lol. first time watching your channel, subbed. good job on the review . 👍
For an entry level, small power station this is a very nice redesign. You won’t be able to run much on it but it would be super handy to charge smaller items away from a power source. The Amazon deal with the included solar panels as someone mentioned below would be the way to go on this at $199. That would be a very low investment to get your feet wet on what something like this can do. Nice review, thanks! 👍🏻
another great review, just ordered one with free EF ECOFLOW Backpack, Thank you Sir :)
Patiently waiting for the River 3 pro.
The river UPS is rated for 20 ms, unlike the delta 3 plus, which is rated at 10 ms, so they are not the same. Also, the battery pack itself is IP54 rated, not the entire unit.
@joshreynolds7781 You're right! Apparently the original pre-releaae specs I'd gotten had changed and I didn't catch it before publishing.
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsstrangely, EcoFlow seems to be having a hard time figuring out what products they are releasing this year. When they first published these products, there was also a delta 3, which seems to have disappeared. The specs have also changed on several units. Don't know why
Would have liked to have seen the max output with xBoost turned on.
Just bought the river 3 bundled with 45 watt solar panel for $321.30 CAD October 8th. Got the solar panel first a few days ago, the model without USB and has 2 thick plus and minus cords proving from a small rectangular control box, will recieve the actual river 3 a week later just before November, was apparently not in stock for a couple weeks.
Can't find the river 3+ anywhere for the life of me. Might have prefered that models ability to upgrade battery and power mor powerful appliances.
This is a good gift. Nice device!
@ReeWrayOutdoors, I thought you had an ongoing spreadsheet with all the powerstation specs that you reviewed, but can't find it, only the power use one. Thx!
This is not a big issue for me as I really only need mostly the 12v side of this which the 12v plug hole will be occupied all the time, as used in mobile operations to power a CB and rear-view camera system and to charge up small rechargeable lights and have the solar panel which is 60 watts and the covers are rather in the way of my operations, as a survival set-up, the backpack frame is bare bones, I have is a rather larger carrying frame, designed for scavenging as I have a "bucket list" for the Zombie Apocalypse. The backpack system is really designed for 72 hour emergency pack designed to get you back to your safe house zone, allowing for 3 days grace where ever you are held up at.
Also the pack will hold the power system requirements, water, and filters for the gas mask, as they are relocated into the pack. It is to make it a lite as possible as a "standard" load-out, and still be able to battle the Undead, as stamina useage of trying to keep with the "normal" load bearing weight one can naturally hold. Having a "redundancy" system on yourself at all times.
The CB radio operates better for localized operational ranges, like in a group of a small community. The rearview camera system is mounted to my medivial steel plate helmet for quick glances for sisuation awareness. I would be the smaller groups communications and power centre, if none were not present. Also you could power up a mini Starlink system for internet usage if still operationally of coarse. The mission equiptment -> than can be attached if neccessay to the back pack ontop of the "standard" load out, as you might be taken back ground or an area and make a salilite HQ or a redundant safe house to fall back to, the additional thus is left there for that purpose.
As the objective is to carry the torche as long as possible and bounce back to an era of time that will now support us all. Try and cushion the fall of the collaspe and then "sencond generation" and provide innovation ergonomics to keep time in efficencey and effectiveness, and you will have to borrow from yesterday untill you can self maufactor and re-educate the next generation for it.
For some one the size of the unit for the River 3 could be of importance, could make them system just pop for them in getting everything to "fit", then it comes to cooling or keeping longivity for this tightness within the frame work of it, a dice role sometimes of slight pros and cons.
Excellent testing 😊
Solid video, thanks!
Always enjoy your videos. I have noticed on several of your videos that sometimes the DC load capacity tests prove to be more inefficient than the AC load capacity test. I would have assumed that the DC tests would show greater efficiency since there is no conversion of DC to AC. Would you know why one would get better efficiency on A/C over DC? Thank you for your videos and hard work.
Some of the new systems with large inverters, do this by running 48V battery systems instead of 12V. Pecron, Oupes, etc. So all the 12V is made by converting from 48V. Turns out this conversion is less efficient than going from 48V to 120V ac, in some. My Pecron e1500LFP is about the same, actually. This has ramifications for say camping, where the conventional wisdom of running as much on dc as possible, may no longer be true. The oupes Mega2 actually has 2x 48Vdc outputs, but unfortunately I am not aware of any truck or camping equip that uses 48v in the US.
@@dave_in_az Will that explains a lot . Several years ago I purchased a lot of 12V equipment like fans, electric blankets, lights and such for camping and I love that my little jackery 500 can run a 12V fridge for 44 hours and the other can run my cpap for 4 nights with the humidifier. Thanks for responding.
A very comprehensive test 👍 It would be even better if you can find out what type of inverter it is (Square wave or Sine wave?)
I enjoy your reviews, but think you could make them a lot better with just a little effort. I would like to see you do the UPS test while drawing => 75% of the rated AC output. One way to help with that would be to actually have the PC do some work. EG: have it play a video while transcoding a video. Plug in your guitar amp too, set up your mic and do the AC noise test at the same time. That way, we could easily HEAR the difference in noise levels as well as seeing if the PC keeps chugging.
REALLY GOOD VIDEO. 👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Have a question could you connect an auto 12 battery or even two at 12 volt total for extra run time
Love the PC test man!!!
I'm looking to buy this, I'm curious if have you ever tried/experienced using it as UPS for your PC on load, like gaming or editing, that sucking maybe like 200+ Watts and then unplugging it?
Great review
@Reeway outdoors, are you, or did you do a UPS on the ecoflow river 3 plus product WITH the UPS feature, and if so, does it show on the desktop computer, and IF yes, how much WHs does it get? expanded and or not.
Hey in ups mode, if power goes out long enough to drain the battery, when the power comes back will it automatically power on and work again? Or does it need you to turn the ac output on again?
@frostyfroze7352 with the new EcoFlow app, it can automatically turn the inverter back on. Pretty cool stuff.
Great review! Would it be okay to use the River 3 for a home PC ups leaving it plugged in all the time? Thanks again.
How is it you get more run time from the AC then you do the DC. I would have thought it would be opposite.
I'm getting one if I see the prices people are mentioning here. Presently it's $239.
Is it a 20A three prong AC outlet?
Do you happen to know if left alone with full charge, how long does it take to discharge all the power?
Can it use while solar charging input? if can is that limit any function? i can not found info from factory manual.
Yes you can discharging AC and DC while charging via solar. No real limits beyond the normal specs when doing that.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors sorry , i mean charging laptop/mobile phone from River 3 then while solar input in the sametime.Can do?
It is missing USB C charging like the river 2.....I can charge the river 2 using my USB C iphone charger.
Good afternoon, through the EcoFlow app is it possible to turn off the confirmation button press “beep” sound?
Yes it is
If I were designing a power station in 2024 I'd have no USB-A ports and all 140W USB-C ports. I completely agree with your sentiment and I'm glad others are finally saying it.
Very interesting that the AC inverter is more power efficient than DC.
I'd like to see self-consumption (no load) tests demonstrated for AC and DC, the Delta 3 Plus self-consumption is like 35-40W on AC. That's quite a lot, I expect a smaller inverter to be much less though.
I can't wait till the River 3 *Plus* gets released, which does have a 10ms UPS like the Delta 3 Plus, unlike the regular River 3, which is 20ms. I am planning to replace all my old lead acid UPS units with the River 3 Plus.
Question 🙋🏻♀️ What brand Solar Panels do you recommend? Thank you for all the great videos you make. I’m a newbie to solar and just recently purchased an EcoFlow Delta 2 😊
He has a bunch of videos on panels, watch them for his already made efforts on recommendation. For the ecoflow delta2, its solar input is:
Solar Charging 11-60V, 15A, 500W max
So, be sure the Voc for your panels is less than 60V. If you use 2x panels, parallel or series will work fine, but it will only use up to 15A and 500W of power. In series, Voc adds, so they each need to be less than about 28Voc for cold temperature safe limits.
were you using x-boost when doing the load test? I have seen several using this pulling up to 800 watts momentarily, and 400 watts continuous.
@blupupher No. As a personal rule, I don't do load testing using those boost functions because the drop the voltage pretty severely and would not be suitable for complex electronic loads.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors OK, figured as much, but just wanted to make sure since I have seen higher output on several videos with it.
I just got my River 3 a few days ago, but my primary use is as a battery backup for my CPAP, and I have the x-boost turned off.
Works great for that, I used it for 8 hours the first night and it used 57% of the charge. Theoretically I can get a full nights use setting the charge level to 20% for a low and 80% for a high, extending the battery life a lot.
I have a manual ICE generator for whole home power backup, but wanted something for those times when the power blips out for a few minutes, as well as an occasional overnight camping trip that I had been carrying a large car battery and inverter to use for power.
would i be able to run starlink with this? i would buy it if i can
Im sure you can
Please explain the spreadsheet. It does not show how long the reviewed power stations runs devices. I only see a single worksheet, and honestly I don't understand the information in it. Thank you.
@Gwen3344 so first you'll need to download the sheet so you can edit your own copy. Then you would edit the AC Inverter cell to reflect 300W and the battery capacity cell to reflect 245Wh, matching the River 3 specs. The spreadsheet will then show in green what things it can run and the approx runtime of those things .
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Okay. Thank you!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you!
Wait till the smartest commenters find out that a desktop pc has a power supply brick that is 8x bigger than the brick on your laptop
?
@@beebop4333 a desktop computer has a built-in power supply that is eight times bigger than external power supply that of a laptop.
He mentioned people said a laptop power brick has capacitors in it that would keep the laptop on during UPS transfer, the same holds true for a desktop computer power supply
Are all the your UPS tests flawed? Even power stations without UPS will work in your tests, since they all have pass through mains charging. You're just pulling the AC cord out.
UPS tests are to see how quickly the device can switch from pass through charging to operating off the devices batteries / inverter. This is a good test of the UPS function, do some research into it and see if you can understand why it’s a valid test.