Not sure why a small percentage of people are having volume issues on this video. Maybe some kind of glitch in TH-cam compression. Sorry if thats happening for you!
If you think about it, the Seba CJ is a soft boot but one of the stiffest skates on the market. It all depends on where the stiff part of the plastic ends. The CJ’s plastic comes half way up the side, kind of like the FR1 (but not as high). So I don’t really think it’s about soft boot vs hard boot. It’s more about stiff vs floppy. You can have stiff soft boots and floppy hard boots. These skates look absolutely amazing btw. They would pair very nicely with some endless frames.
not gonna lie, it looks like they improved a lot on their previous FR models, having said that, the previous shell was already amazing, so hats off to FR. they truly outdid themselves.
I don't know if the lower frame height is a good thing. Depending on the width of the boot. If you are skating hard on the street and you lean the boot over and you touch the shell or the stupid protruding slider boot saver thing to the ground you are probably going down. Physical injuries cost so much more than new skates. I also don't like the rockerable frame bolts, much prefer the standard seba screw in mounts. I am confused are these replacing the FR1s? I am going to try these I think, but I hope the FR1 is still around.
I also tried to downsize from my FR1 Intuition with the Neo. I put the FR Intuition liner in the Neo, and the toebox was just not big enough - both on top and on the side. This was with the dual density Neo which definitely did not solve the issue for me. Too bad, it's a lovely skate. Maybe I'll wait and see what they do with the Neo Intuition and try again.
That cavern on the shell right above the second wheel would have to be high enough to accommodate a 90mm. But yes, I'd love to see the pairing. Maybe some E80s if not
That is a great find. Yes it is really looking good. The ride height is what I started to hate on 165 mounts. Now for fun, go and take a look at the new k2 80 hardboots, how ridicolusly high they are
Hey @LocoSkates, by any chance would you know how to get a gentler rocker in these FR NEO 1s? The frame rocks the wheels way too much for my taste, to the point I feel really unstable. I'm used to the Endless Blades kind of rockering, btw.
I actually feel like it's a shame they removed the 7 point mounting system and put in the 5 point instead, having 3 holes exactly down the middle of the skate was cool for centering frames. with this new 5 point mounting system, you basically can no longer center it length wise as you only have 1 hole in the middle of the mounting block.
Much prefer the look of these over the usual fr boots and great work redesigning a lower profile 165 mount. Coming from a 4x80 Trinity Mount to a regular 4x80 feels noticeably higher. A much more affordable alternative to something like a Powerslide HC Evo if your after that Low Profile Mount 🫶
Having both single and dual density shells in hand, do you think the lateral support can work for wizard skating? Is it different (lateral support) from the ufrs?
There’s too much variation in personal preference to give a solid answer to the Wizard question… but I bet that Wizard would say that it would be better stiffer (ie WITHOUT dual density shell). The shell is similar width to FR1 etc but the new liner gives you a bit more width
Hi! the final version of the fr neo 1 is already on the market and I don't see any reviews, opinions or users of these skates.. Does anyone know what's going on? Or maybe someone is a happy user and can tell about them?
Mine got delivered today! I’m recovering from an ankle fracture so im very limited in actually trying them out. First look and feel are fantastic though. Im coming from fr1 intuition which were too roomy, so i went down one size. These feel like my feet just grew some wheels - in a good way lol. Happy to help out if you want to know anything specific
Bro I AirPlayed this video to my homepods because the volume was so low, cranked the volume up and my windows exploded when I got a discord notifications
Please just show the weight between the blue dual density boot vs the FR1.....PLEASE!!!! I'm assuming the dual density is lighter, but a friend of mine told me they feel heavier. Please confirm this. Thanks
I can't do it right now but I'm certain the Neo will be heavier in a like-for-like setup. Our previous video shows the non-dual density Neo to be 180g heavier than the equivalent FR2. The difference between the dual-density and non dual density Neo will be negligible.
How much difference does the lower drop really make ? ... I am a beginner, 50y/o, never going to require the best, but have got the money to spend ... My head says to get the FRX or Lightning, my wife says to get the fr3 as is doesnt have velcro, my heart says get the Neo ... my brain says, if you are getting the neo then get the FR2 ... argh, which one ?
It's a small difference and is just an extra selling point for the type of person who really cares about the little improvements. If you've got the money then I'd say get the Neo just on the of chance it will provide you with that extra bit of stability. It's what I'd do 🙂
To be honest it would have been better if FR gone with trinity mount instead so that other trinity frames could have been used on neo. It seems FR pretty much limited themselves here and missed the trick. Most people want to change frames if they are spending over £200 on the setup. Zoom is half the price so if u want low ride and no frame change just go with that.
Unfortunately that wouldn't have been an option for FR because when Powerslide created the Trinity mounting system they decided to patent it. That's why only Powerslide has it. Frame companies like Endless or NN have to work with Powerslide to get permission to make frames for their system. Not a fan of patents personally especially hate seeing them pop up here and there in this industry when it's so small and there should be more co operation. Gotta give special thanks to K2 because they were one of the first in skating to patent shit left and right
@@wadesblades8316 shame about patent surely there can be frame mounting system designed to have lower height and open industry standard. Hopefully 1 day.. It still doesn't concern me I enjoy endless 90 on 165mm and can do my wizard stuff just fine
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Not sure why a small percentage of people are having volume issues on this video. Maybe some kind of glitch in TH-cam compression. Sorry if thats happening for you!
quiet as hell for me!!
Whoever is designing the skates at FR is smashing it, these are gorgeous 😍
Damn, the combination of that mount and frame looks like your foot would be damn close to being as low as a trinity setup.
If you think about it, the Seba CJ is a soft boot but one of the stiffest skates on the market. It all depends on where the stiff part of the plastic ends. The CJ’s plastic comes half way up the side, kind of like the FR1 (but not as high). So I don’t really think it’s about soft boot vs hard boot. It’s more about stiff vs floppy. You can have stiff soft boots and floppy hard boots. These skates look absolutely amazing btw. They would pair very nicely with some endless frames.
not gonna lie, it looks like they improved a lot on their previous FR models, having said that, the previous shell was already amazing, so hats off to FR. they truly outdid themselves.
Thanks for the review (no sound issue for me )
I'll probably wait for the white version..only if they're producing it 😊
That blue version is a really good looking skate 🤩
Oh wow! Interesting! Curious about the ride height between the trinity mount and this now!
Absolutely beautiful skates tho!
Looks to be about the same as Trinity... but with the bonus of having more aftermarket frame options later on if you want to switch frames.
@@LocoSkateswill the ride height be lower than an fr2 if both are using an aftermarket frame? Or is the benefit only with the stock frame
@@raph1136 yes would still be lower than an FR2 even if using aftermarket
@@LocoSkates wow thanks for the fast reply
@@LocoSkates any info on whether they plan to ship the neo 1 with a non-intuition option?
Turn the master volume up lads
Volume is peaking at +6db. If you could have a word with TH-cam for us that’d be great😅
Video wasn't quiet at all for me
Yep seems 👌on my device
Audio is perfect 🙂
I have the same problem with the video
I don't know if the lower frame height is a good thing. Depending on the width of the boot. If you are skating hard on the street and you lean the boot over and you touch the shell or the stupid protruding slider boot saver thing to the ground you are probably going down. Physical injuries cost so much more than new skates. I also don't like the rockerable frame bolts, much prefer the standard seba screw in mounts.
I am confused are these replacing the FR1s? I am going to try these I think, but I hope the FR1 is still around.
7 hole mount enables you to mount endless 100, which are 180mm mount. i was really hoping they would keep the 7 hole.
I also tried to downsize from my FR1 Intuition with the Neo. I put the FR Intuition liner in the Neo, and the toebox was just not big enough - both on top and on the side. This was with the dual density Neo which definitely did not solve the issue for me. Too bad, it's a lovely skate. Maybe I'll wait and see what they do with the Neo Intuition and try again.
Would love to see that on the endless 90
That cavern on the shell right above the second wheel would have to be high enough to accommodate a 90mm. But yes, I'd love to see the pairing. Maybe some E80s if not
@@HotFiya05 I have exactly that :D
That is a great find. Yes it is really looking good. The ride height is what I started to hate on 165 mounts. Now for fun, go and take a look at the new k2 80 hardboots, how ridicolusly high they are
Dang, Jake might convince me to get one. I actually like the black and blue 😅
Take the current neo skates, swap frames, add your intuition liner and you'll have an equivalent skate to the upcoming skate.
The higher-end Neo frames don’t exist yet and the lower price version doesn’t have dual density shell.
@@LocoSkates use the blue dual density, swap in the 4 x 80 cast frame?
@@longtermsquatter Definitely not tryina' rock that blue though
@@LocoSkatesI’m normally an all black and white kind of person but that blue is pretty sick.
Hey @LocoSkates, by any chance would you know how to get a gentler rocker in these FR NEO 1s? The frame rocks the wheels way too much for my taste, to the point I feel really unstable. I'm used to the Endless Blades kind of rockering, btw.
@@Rafaelinux best way is probably to skate down a few rough hills to wear them in!
@@LocoSkates Ooff.. not the response I was hoping for! Is there any kind of alternate rocker axle that's more gentle on the rockering?
@@Rafaelinux Yes! You could put 76mm wheels in the middle and leave the 80mm on the outside
@@LocoSkates I'll try putting some used wheels in the middle, perhaps that does it. Thanks!
I actually feel like it's a shame they removed the 7 point mounting system and put in the 5 point instead, having 3 holes exactly down the middle of the skate was cool for centering frames. with this new 5 point mounting system, you basically can no longer center it length wise as you only have 1 hole in the middle of the mounting block.
Much prefer the look of these over the usual fr boots and great work redesigning a lower profile 165 mount.
Coming from a 4x80 Trinity Mount to a regular 4x80 feels noticeably higher.
A much more affordable alternative to something like a Powerslide HC Evo if your after that Low Profile Mount 🫶
Having both single and dual density shells in hand, do you think the lateral support can work for wizard skating? Is it different (lateral support) from the ufrs?
Oh and question number 2.
I’m happy there are a little less space in the toe, but are they wider inside the shell? How much?
There’s too much variation in personal preference to give a solid answer to the Wizard question… but I bet that Wizard would say that it would be better stiffer (ie WITHOUT dual density shell).
The shell is similar width to FR1 etc but the new liner gives you a bit more width
Hi! the final version of the fr neo 1 is already on the market and I don't see any reviews, opinions or users of these skates.. Does anyone know what's going on? Or maybe someone is a happy user and can tell about them?
Mine got delivered today! I’m recovering from an ankle fracture so im very limited in actually trying them out. First look and feel are fantastic though. Im coming from fr1 intuition which were too roomy, so i went down one size. These feel like my feet just grew some wheels - in a good way lol. Happy to help out if you want to know anything specific
Bro I AirPlayed this video to my homepods because the volume was so low, cranked the volume up and my windows exploded when I got a discord notifications
Did someone say massive protruding part?
Please just show the weight between the blue dual density boot vs the FR1.....PLEASE!!!! I'm assuming the dual density is lighter, but a friend of mine told me they feel heavier. Please confirm this. Thanks
I can't do it right now but I'm certain the Neo will be heavier in a like-for-like setup. Our previous video shows the non-dual density Neo to be 180g heavier than the equivalent FR2. The difference between the dual-density and non dual density Neo will be negligible.
How much difference does the lower drop really make ? ... I am a beginner, 50y/o, never going to require the best, but have got the money to spend ... My head says to get the FRX or Lightning, my wife says to get the fr3 as is doesnt have velcro, my heart says get the Neo ... my brain says, if you are getting the neo then get the FR2 ... argh, which one ?
It's a small difference and is just an extra selling point for the type of person who really cares about the little improvements. If you've got the money then I'd say get the Neo just on the of chance it will provide you with that extra bit of stability. It's what I'd do 🙂
To be honest it would have been better if FR gone with trinity mount instead so that other trinity frames could have been used on neo. It seems FR pretty much limited themselves here and missed the trick. Most people want to change frames if they are spending over £200 on the setup. Zoom is half the price so if u want low ride and no frame change just go with that.
Unfortunately that wouldn't have been an option for FR because when Powerslide created the Trinity mounting system they decided to patent it. That's why only Powerslide has it. Frame companies like Endless or NN have to work with Powerslide to get permission to make frames for their system. Not a fan of patents personally especially hate seeing them pop up here and there in this industry when it's so small and there should be more co operation. Gotta give special thanks to K2 because they were one of the first in skating to patent shit left and right
@@wadesblades8316 shame about patent surely there can be frame mounting system designed to have lower height and open industry standard. Hopefully 1 day..
It still doesn't concern me I enjoy endless 90 on 165mm and can do my wizard stuff just fine
The sound of this video is very low! Almost cant't hear you...
So basically we cant use endless frames on it?
You can. But almost any aftermarket frame will ride higher than the stock frame
Great thanks I don't mind higher ride height if the boot is supportive. Thanks for clarifying
@@LocoSkates I wonder if some Swans would keep the ride height the same?
Can barely hear you on this video.