I'm a gamedev and I met a dev from TT games at a tradeshow last year. We talked about this for a little bit and he described the unbelievable crunch that was involved. The team was not happy to work on this. Poor guy
That's really sad to hear. Yeah reading up on the devs pleading to let them use unreal and them being ignored, on top of like you said crunch and the fact that this felt so unconnected from everything else the team has done. Then on top of that so many veterans leaving, it really is a shame. And you can't help but feel bad for every single person who helped make this product. The delays were also definitely also harsh on the developers as they realized that the game they were making was constantly being re-worked and shuffled about away from what they intended. poor devs.
@ASHFAR578 sadly, the amount of time put into a game doesn't mean much when everything is being changed constantly by people who don't understand game development, design, and programming.
The developer crunch alone should be the main reason people shouldn't buy the game. The game is fine, but the working conditions the developers had to endure were unacceptable
by far the biggest dissapointment of this game for me was the fact that there are literally no enemies to fight on the hub worlds and even if you do find some, THEY DONT EVER RESPAWN.
Yeah the open worlds feel completely disconnected to the levels. Which I guess is the point. But I see a lot of people saying the main point of the game is the open world. But it doesn't do enough to warrant exploring thoroughly to leave the missions imo.
@@Destined2BeKing yeah, i mean how hard is it to copy and paste a few into the worlds? they had ages to make this game and it kinda feels like a beta ngl.
@@MtpMuzik The issue with Open Worlds is that they don’t always encourage the creation of curated environments/activities, sometimes they’ll have em but that’s not their purpose at the end of the day. Open world games trade scripted events/scenarios with open landscapes where the player is tasked with “creating their own fun,” in some games where you have a lot of tools to work with this can work (like fallout, minecraft, and terraria.) But if you lean too much into that without a healthy gameplay loop then it comes off as lazy and hollow to a lot of players.
Yet Lego has made open world games (lord of the rings, batman 2, marvel super heroes, DC supervillains, city undercover) that utilize the format AMAZINGLY. I think something went very wrong with the development of the Skywalker saga
Open world is the new Battle Royale. When Fortnut and PUBG came out back then, every multiplayer game needed to have battle royale mode. Now it's open world for singleplayers. And now that Elden Ring became one of the most succesfull games ever, it will most likely continue for a few years until a new formula gets the spotlight.
@@ihatehandleupdatethis trend has been going on for a long time, years atleast. My personal hatred are games with a "Do small missions in the open world to unlock main missions" games. It can be well done and fun, stuff like Just Cause 2 come to mind as an old classic, but then you got the newer games in that series or stuff like Mafia 3 that just fall flet...
The weird thing is that the game felt like it was teasing Windu vs Palpatine as a level when you travel to his room as Windu and Kit Fisto in the open world. He wasn’t even an open world boss like Jango on Kamino was. I mean, why? Just why? We’ve wanted Windu vs Palpatine as far back as I can remember.
@@speedwagon1824 making Ben swolo, buff yoda, yourself, custom clone troopers, custom Jedi. That’s pretty fun to do. Like you actually can build your own Lego character.
@@speedwagon1824 idk, you could make your favourite character that isnt in game or jusr make a fun character to play. I could even make some Legends characters in character creator in I, II, TCS and III.
an aspect I personally felt "hurt" by, would be... for some reason they lock Scavengers behind episode 7. If you wanted to go through each episode in order, you need to go through more than half the game to unlock their abilities. Even if you get a scavenger character early, you can't use them. This is the only character type to be locked this way. What's making it worse, Scavenger-mandatory puzzles are found throughout all episodes. It gets discouraging really quickly
@@mickmufson1824which sadly is still a while, considering you don’t unlock ROTJ unless you finish ANH and ESB The Ewok level in particular is like, the third level in there? Meanwhile if you start at Force Awakens, it’s like the second one, and you already have TFA unlocked by default
Can we just appreciate how inventive it was to teach/show players exactly how they needed to progress at 5:30? Having the two destroyers roll onto the buttons to open the gate, and then roll off is so imaginative, and it sucks how the new game doesn't have any of that.
Literally tho, kinda like how Cod zombies in older games would use color to guide you through important locals, and it always gave a degree of help, even if small, the game is actively teaching you as you play, it’s just being clever Enough to hide it from the intended audience on a first run through
Worst part about this for me, not the biggest one, but the one I was most disappointed about was a character creation. I always loved getting every character, and each character could potentially unlock something new, and then, at the end I can create my character and have a combination of some of my favorite or most powerful abilities in my own style
And then there are people saying “oh but there’s over 400 characters,” which is dumb for many reasons but that’s even worse! Imagine the shear customization!
@@morepenguins6247 plus the whole idea is Lego being able to take apart and put together in whatever way you want so not being able to take apart a character and reshape it into a new character is weird specially, when it’s been a feature in every single Lego game before that seems weird to just drop it now
One of my favorite additions to the classic Lego Star Wars formula was the full scale battles from Lego Star Wars 3:TCW, where you could go around spending your studs on battalions of clones (which Clone commander type characters could take command of), AT-TEs, force shields, and even sometimes a item generator that would give either a minikit or the level's red brick after accomplishing certain requirements, as new tiers of buildings unlocked the more spots you controlled.
It made me so incredibly disappointed when I realized that the first actual level was the stupid Bigger Fish scene. It baffles me how they thought that made sense.
My main gripe is that creating more open world planets seemed to take away from the main levels themselves. The level is significantly smaller, there's significantly less puzzle solving and less cut scenes. Plus just because the open world planets look fairly well designed, doesn't mean I want to run around on them doing meaningless little quests. The complete saga from '07 had so much more charm and fun to be had I feel. You can see in a way how video games have changed considering how much of this game is just collectable fodder to squeeze as much time out of the player as possible. Also what's up with the genosian arena? It looks empty!!
@@JuanLeon-oe6xeYes, because they went from “not linear” to “linear”, in a manner that wasn’t graceful enough to receive excellent reception. The original LEGO Star Wars games have nothing to compare themselves to, so their linearity is completely appropriate.
My brother and I were really excited to play this game when it came out. We had fond memories of playing the complete saga together when we were younger. The skywalker saga literally made us fall asleep. I'm not lying. As soon as we stopped playing we were awake and fine again. It's a real phenomenon.
After realizing how bad Skywalker Saga was after the first 3 missions of the game, I bailed. A month later got a steam deck, and the first game I installed was the Complete Saga.
same thing happened with me and my older cousin. we both grew up playing lego star wars tcs whenever id visit him among other games, and i bought TSS and waited for him to come over to play it. we only played 2 levels of the phantom menace. and ive never played it ever again. what a let down
My brother and I 100% Lego Star Wars 1,2,3 and the complete saga and we couldn’t even get through this or the force awakens the games have strayed so far from the idea of fun
The longer I played the more disappointed I got. Most of the game and 'levels' were walk from point A to point B just to continue the story. I'd argue the clone wars lego game had more things you could do in the 'open' world than this and that one generally felt more fun despite it being restrictive for the time it came out. It honestly baffles me that we still do not have an open world star wars game that does things correctly.
I remember how my favourite chracters in TCS were Count Dooku and Palpatine for the sole reason they could use lighting on almost any npc and yeet 'em away. You can't imagine how disappointed i was when i bought them in TSS and noticed how this wasn't a thing anymore. As you said in the video,Sith are just more expensive Jedis now. No cool quirk they can kill npcs/enemies with or dark side related puzzles. And again,the fact that the characters you bought doesn't randomly appear in the hub worlds and start fighting each others it's an other let down. Mos Eisley Cantina it's still one of the most chaotic and fun hub worlds because of how easy it was to start a bar fight.
Yo those bar fights were sick I totally forgot about that 😂 That game was gravyyyy Literally the reason why they became successful n they wonder why ppl don't like it
Sith do have the ability to destroy cuttable walls (the ones you use a lightsaber to cut through) with the force, but you have to stand at a really specific angle and hold down a button.
I feel mixed on the game. Some times I love it, others I feel frustrated. I feel like this game needed another year or two to cook in the oven, especially thanks to the crunch put on devs.
Less to the crunch and more to the game design. The problems here show that they simplified game mechanics to add more numbers & worlds that ultimately feel formulaic. With problems like this, one or two extra dev years wouldn't make a difference. Fixing them would essentially make a completely different game.
@@larniieplayz6285 game design problem. It's like making Pokémon Snap and saying "they need to delay a few more years so that game can be Pokémon Sword & Shield". *That's not how game dev works.* Skywalker Saga was *designed* to minimize features & expand quantity of characters & puzzles. You can't fix that with delays or crunch; it was a different game from the start.
@@TheRibbonRed thats what crunch... does. It causes game design problems by forcing them to simply the game mechanics and pad play time. you are literally describing the problem with crunching while saying its not a crunch problem.
For me, my only major problem is how they limited each episode to exactly 5 missions, leading the developers to turn some of the best sequences from the movies into cutscenes because of it.
Biggest disappointment for me was the almost complete lack of platforming puzzles… jumping around to progress and discover secrets, occasionally falling to my death was sooo fun in the complete saga. Just look at the obi wan vs anakin duel to see how it’s changed. Literally every jump between platforms is a quick time event lmao
@@tophatcat1173 The whole obi wan and ani kan fight was my favorite fight in the game. It was very fun for me and the fact that he says that its worse that the original saga confuses me.
@@zzodysseuszz What do mean, in so many ways the Skywalker saga is better. Graphics, combat, open world, comedy, ships, amount of content, and they even have great voice acting. I don't know how you can say it's disappointing.
personally I find the story Hub interactions to be pretty fun despite the length of them. The problem I have is that because much of the story beats happen in these sections, I can't really replay the story of a certain film without having to start a new game and replay it's entire trilogy, I'd love to replay the story with maxed out character abilities and using different ships. I often got the most fun from the Hub sections as some story missions were just way too short, or don't show much importance.
Yeah it's weird to me that some cutscenes are connected to the open world. I had to play the whole game again to get the Battle over coruscant footage. I wonder why Lego games stopped having the room where you can view cutscenes.
I think I would have prefered a remaster of Complete Saga. Still one of my favorite games of all time, and far above the few hours I put into disney's skywalker saga.
Yes. They could have just remastered TCS with better graphics AND created 3 new levels to represent the Disney films. That would still have sold well. Possibly better.
It seems that TT traded out creative Lego levels for Open World, and that’s no good. If it were me, I would’ve actually scaled down the open worlds in favor of more creative Lego Levels/missions.
@@Smabbott the thing is, the games open world's didn't leave much replayability, I would rather both get good focus. Why does it have to be one? Finally, Lego games are trying to be more replayable.
I didnt even realize your ship takes visual damage as its health decreases. I'm at 80% of the game complete and ive never had a situation where my ship was damaged to that point.
given how the enemies will often deliberately miss you, it explains why neither of us saw ships taking damage. I once left my game running in the death star and came back to all 4 stormtroopers in the game shooting at me, and my health had been regenerating quicker than the damage
Wow that example of the Cloud City mission just made me laugh and realize what a waste of time it was. I remember it being pretty boring but watching you complete it without doing anything unique or interesting made me feel silly actually fighting the troopers and trying to enjoy it lol
What I noticed is that the game, at least from what I've seen in trailers and gameplays, pretty much is a Lego style version of Disney Infinity 3.0 with the story being the one of the movies. The open worlds, the camera angle, etc. Especially flying around in space looks exactly like in Disney Infinity.
Yeah man I was just about to comment that😂😂😂. Everything was very familiar to me, from the bosses with health bars, the way you progress between levels, skill tree, and of course, EVERYTHING with space combat and vehicles. The bad part is that infinity let you create your own world's and do what you wanted. Also, Boba Fett's jetpack was useful at least😂
@@isaiahbridges7442 I never said it was bad, but I think it's pretty disappointing. While I love both DI 3.0 and the Lego Star Wars games, I expected a bit more.
my biggest complaint about this game was the lack of character customization- to me that's what made lego games worth playing because I enjoy mixing and matching the parts of every unlockable character just to see what I could come up with and then replay missions while playing as the custom character, so that way I could have my own little flare in the missions and collect stuff as well- I get it's big, but with the amount of playable characters, that makes custom characters more fun to play as and would serve as the solidification of a traditional feature to keep around.
@@scotthenglefelt2893 that’s fair, and it is true that not every Lego game had it. I personally found DC Supervillain’s forcing a custom character on us was very creative from how the custom characters were before. It could have been just a demonstration of how they’ll run customization-
I really hate to say it, but you’re absolutely right. 100% agree on everything, I remember booting this up and starting in chronological order to fill my head with nostalgia, started as Qui Gon on negotiations, then finishing it in like 5 seconds I was like that’s it?! And throughout episode 1 I was so confused on what was a level and what wasn’t. I got so bored just walking to point A to point B I just booted up another game to stop being bored. Throughout the game the problems you’ve said occur and it’s really sad cuz this could’ve been a great Lego game.
Same! Big fan of the original games and the open world hubs are cool...but the actual levels are lackluster and you never know if its just another section of the hub or another actual level
@@deathmanor4155 this is hilarious because you’re probably right lol I’m 21 and I grew up with these games and the level system wasn’t the same as this one- I think that’s what people are more upset about
@@evnsconnor I think it's Far more likely that, becuase we are older. We know better. With age comes experience and all that good stuff. We have seen/grown up with games that did it propperly. So this half-arsed trash doesn't wash. We KNOW what we are missing out on.
I’ve played through the first episode of this and started episode two and I knew something was off. I thought it was the inability to let a serious moment be serious (Qui Gon’s Death really felt tone deaf to me), but I think you’ve articulated what I was starting to perceive. The game just Ian Mt that interesting. Visually it’s immaculate, and the mechanics that are there work very well. Almost too well. I’m amazed how quickly you can play through something that would’ve taken 20 minutes in the complete saga.
Something that seems to be overlooked is that, when a game intended for children becomes too reliant on voice acting, it can deeply sour the experience for children whose languages aren't supported by the game. This review brought back memories of me attempting to simultaneously listen to dialogue while translating it for my younger siblings, a problem which lego games used to avoid, as everyone simply mumbled and all information was conveyed by gesturing and facial expressions. And while this game offers a mumble mode, it's very clearly just an afterthought.
Being limited to mumbling was also a _great_ opportunity for more of the lego humor charm. Creativity is born from limitations after all, as the saying goes. There are so many moments where they had to convey some piece of info where they just outright told us through dialogue, while previous lego games would've had to find a way to communicate it through props or body language, and all of these moments are just completely missed opportunities. People aren't asking for mumble to be back for the sake of the mumbling itself. People are asking for mumble to be back because that mumbling was part of the necessary _conditions_ for the most memorable jokes in the classic lego games.
This is what you get when you play a game made by people who were under extreme pressure to get the product done, you don't get a labor of love, you just get "Lets churn out a project we know they'll eat up, regardless of its quality"! This game should have had even more time in the oven with the scope they were trying to achieve without execs breathing down the necks of the devs constantly to just get it done.
I just feel sorry to all the developers as the directors weren't known by the team at all. But rather the new management choices from Sony who had no idea how to direct a Lego game and instead micromanaged and removed mechanics in which developers were working on for weeks without telling them. Another article was released detailing more than the polygon article. It just sucks.
They had plenty of time, it was delayed for 2 years since its initial launch on 2020. The devs just got too overwhelmed with the amount of expectations and ideas that they finally just came up with a product with so many new elements but not focusing on the ones that make a lego game enjoyable.
yea, there are alot of braindead kids that buy anything that has a brand they like. TH-camrs are taking advantage of their younger audience by making as many lego star wars skywalker saga videos as they possibly can so they get as much youtube money as possible. this was a great video.
I do still think it was a labour of love but yeah the production was very messy but I don’t think it should’ve been delayed again all tho they announced it way too early that’s for sure.
The completion bonus had me angry. I put in the hours to complete the game & all you get is a stud fountain, dancing characters, & a retro version of one of the songs. The whole thing was made out to be as if the pyramid was going to turn gold & possibly unlock something secret like Indiana Jones as a playable character.
I’ve just gotten to Episode 5, and as I progressed, I had this odd feeling in the back of the mind that something was just _missing._ I love this game, but the flaws you have pointed out are incredibly hard to ignore. It first hit me when I played against Grievous. Admittedly, I was incredibly persistent and exclusively used Cody until I literally couldn’t anymore (same with Typho against Palpatine lol). At some point I started to feel myself struggling to stay awake because some parts of this game is just so boring at times. I enjoy this game, I really do, but I wished it was just a little more. In conclusion, they didn’t add Coleman Trebor, 0/10.
My biggest issue has been the lightsaber duels. I spent the entire level figuring out puzzles and I don’t want the duel to be mostly puzzle. It has been annoying because I would clash with the boss and just as the fight is getting good he flees and I have to spend the next few minutes figuring out a puzzle.
Yeah like the high ground level Anakin and Obi-wan are supposed to be dueling to the death the whole time lightsabers swinging but then he just runs and you go to the droids and solve some puzzles
@@anakinlegowalker5167 That was just stupid they should have made that level like complete saga where one player gets to play as Anakin and the other plays as Obi Wan.
This was a nearly impossible job for some of the devs at Tt, especially with the stress they went through, it’s almost a miracle that they could actually make the game somewhat mediocre.
Tbf, that was inevitable. However, they missed out the memes that actually stood the test of time and used the cringe ones. Perfect example of a company only understanding the surface level of a point.
I appreciate someone who's willing to criticize the game and call it what it is, and not just praise it because it's big and pretty And let's not forget how big of an *L* it is that the game didn't bring over TCW's big battles
Despite how disappointing some of the levels were handled, I was still able to enjoy the game, but the multiplayer was the biggest failure in my eyes. The fixed split screen felt so claustrophobic in the open world and the way coop is handled in a lot of the levels was very upsetting, me and my friend didn’t even make it through the phantom menace before deciding to just play it on our own. This game could have greatly benefited from online coop
I agree with you. At first, I was excited to go around collecting everything. But then, it just felt tedious to where I have taken a hiatus from the game completely. A lot of it is due to lack of time, but the fact that when I do have free time I don't consider playing this game should be telling for how much of a chore it can to play.
This is exactly how I felt! The game is majority filler, from the open worlds to the challenges I was never made aware of and failed to complete after each level , forcing me to go back and replay it to pad out the completion time of the game. I don’t understand how people rated this game so highly when it has no respect for the players time.
I’m glad I could finally discover a genuinely well thought out, sincere review of this game’s flaws, because I have been wondering if anyone has actually disliked LS: TSS. Personally, I am continuing to enjoy playing mainly because I am a big Star Wars fan and love being able to explore my favorite planets, hear and find references, and unlock a lot of my favorite characters. When it was first announced, needless to say, I was very excited for what was in store. I thought I was going to get to play a modernized LS: TCS that would allow me to experience the 6 movies that I loved so much again and added three that were (for obvious reasons) not included in the previous game. I tried my best to avoid trailers and information about the game since I wanted to go into playing knowing as little as possible, however, I heard that I would be able to travel and explore a lot of planets, and that really excited me. For me personally, getting the opportunity to explore Star Wars planets was something special that nothing else has really done before, even JFO which only has 4 explorable planets. When I finally got the game, downloaded it and played the first section, I said “This doesn’t feel like a Lego Star Wars game. It feels like a Star Wars Lego game.” because of how different it felt. Weird camera angle, weird combat system, weird ways of getting to different levels: it was so odd. However, the more I played the more comfortable I became with it, and something I discovered right from the get-go was how you literally played through the movies. Going from the Trad Federation ship to meeting Jar Jar to swim down to Otoh Gunga to escaping the goober fish and walking the streets of Theed, to break through the blockade and going to Tatooine and so on and so forth all the way to the end of the movie! Therefore, as a Star Wars fan, I was totally fine with the time between levels. I loved getting time between the action to really experience the amazing graphics and environments and talk to the people that Obi-Wan had to talk to in AotC in order to locate Kamino. I loved getting a tour of the clones from Lama Su and walking around my favorite planet. It was a SW experience unlike anything else. Similar to my last point, I view the level design in a similar way. It almost felt like the open world in many aspects because of how short and concise each level was. I think they sacrificed the usual Lego level design for being able to play through the movies and tell as similar storyline and experience to the movies while still having hilarious dialogue from the characters like the two Resistance Medics carrying Rose on Crait! I think you can kinda see where I’m all going with this. Lego wanted to make a different game than they ever had before, in more than one way: the main way being the way they set the player up to play through each film. Starting at the beginning and having a fluid pace in which they progressed through the story and ended. However, as I said near the beginning, I’m a big Star Wars fan who can deal with some of the repetition and over-all clunkiness that others might have a problem with because I just love playing through my favorite story. I can totally understand where you are coming from, since it being a Star Wars game isn’t enough for the normal person to blow off the problems the game can undeniably have such as the glitches, and time consuming collectable hunting as well as the different way you play depending on which you like better. It’s just for me, playing through each movie like LS: TSS let me was a unique, exciting experience that serves the player with what I feel nothing else has been able to for this story that is Star Wars, and I for one, am all for it.
I think what makes me enjoy this game so much is the fact I'm a big collectathon fan and the game is mostly a colossal collectathon in open levels like Banjo-Kazooie. I love this game, but your criticisms so far (I'm not quite at the end yet, but still) have all been completely valid and I hope TT takes this video to heart and dials back the scale for the next game, focusing on a tight story with a side open world instead of a huge open world with decent but not anything special levels.
I personally like the new stud bar, but my main problem is the lack of enemy’s and character customization. And I wish you could replay the side missions.
And the lack of potential enemies, mass armies (TCW).... faction pissoffery(TCW&TCS) Civilian pissoffery(TCS) Partner pissoffery (TCW) and bar fights....
The main problem I have is that I have 20 hours played on this game and as soon as I finished episode 9 I never returned to it, and I cannot remember anything. I can’t even remember a single level I genuinely cannot
And those that do call it out get trolled for their opinions. Like for instance wanting it boycotted for everything that happened behind the scenes and removal of key LEGO game elements. Those supporters are the real ones who don't understand what real LEGO fans like. And to think they had the audacity to say I wasn't a true LEGO fan! Idiots! It's just bland and unenjoyable to me.
I am angry that people were praising so much. I spent money for this game and there is nothing that good about it. Finally someone is speaking the truth about negative things
@@jabbadaben9146 I don't understand what people are watching? I have literally seen nothing but absolute hate for the game. And this guy is nowhere near the first person to talk about not liking it
It also turns out that Disney was also pushing hard on the game makers according to several devs that left the project. They were forced to do the sequels first, it was worse to deal with since at the time The Rise of Skywalker didn’t come out so they had to wait until it eventually came out to start working on it. They did the prequels last, which is why it’s levels feel unfinished and short Edit: They’ve added in the cut capital ships. I suppose they are listening to the fans, which is good. I’m hoping the customizer is next.
@@Smabbott Yeah, it’s really unfortunate that the devs were being pushed by both the higher ups and the company that gave them permission to create a new Star Wars Game. I just hope the next game doesn’t have the devs be pushed to the brink of leaving. I hope the next game will be polished and really complete. I think The Skywalker Saga is a step in the right direction. But it isn’t perfect.
@@PearlBladeBeats 🤷 That’s Disney for ya. I guess it was because The Sequels were made by Disney. So they would want their movies to be adapted first. They also don’t really like the prequels that much. They only supported The Clone Wars due to how popular it was.
This is the most well said and honest review of this game I have seen. I was confused because it seemed so many were enjoying this game, when all I was getting was a migraine from all of the repetitive gameplay. This isn’t a nostalgic trip for lego star wars at all, it’s something completely different.
I thought I was the only one who thought this game was shallow and generic. This game had so much potential to be something special but instead we got a game that has boring levels.
*_FINALLY_* somebody started talking about this. I've watched and played the game and I am astounded by how many people fall heads over heels for it. It's like, "Did we even play the same game?" What's worse is how some the earlier entries in the Lego games were bashed as hard as they were and this is praised to high hell. It's like rose tinted glasses were welded on tight because people were so starved for a full on Lego Star Wars game.
@@scotthenglefelt2893 It is when people have been waiting over 2 years for a “Lego” game…as someone who ONLY plays Lego games, it’s been a long, hard wait. And a disappointing result. I don’t care for Star Wars, haven’t seen all the films, probably never will. I bought the game because it’s supposed to be a Lego game, not just a Star Wars game.
@@sprockett7798 it is more a Lego game than a Star Wars game, take all the jokes and references in cutscenes and dialogues. They are distancing themselves from the movies in this game.
The force awakens was actually a really enjoyable game. I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s bad because it was based off a film that people didn’t like, the gameplay consists of more than walking to the end of the level.
The one sequel trilogy comment not negative that I agree with, Force awakens had good levels, (except level 7) even if it was a bit stretched out, And unlike this, the levels were fun to replay, skywalker sagas levels are mostly not interesting enough to replay many times
And now I wish I saw this before getting the game. Would’ve saved some disappointment And another gripe I have is no custom characters. They’re always my favorite part but they’re not here Likely to prevent people from making characters they can charge for with dlc
i loved the game but absolutely understand where you're coming from. and the character roster is so frustating, like there are so many cool characters you can give unique abilities to but they are the same as everyone else in that character class. the villain class is the best since sometimes they come with a unique weapon like a flamethrower but that is not enough for me. i had a couple ideas to make the roster more unique like make some less experienced jedi only have distract as they're force ability while those with more knowledge could have the mind trick and panic too, tusken raiders and jawas could dig in the ground, maybe even go underground to do a 2d section like dig dug. commander cody or antilles could command troops just like in lego star wars 3 the clone wars, the list just goes on and the fact that they just copy the same abilities for an entire character class expect if they have a jetpack is so dissapointing. if i could sacrifice character upgrades for characters being more unique i would.
Those are some really cool abilities there. Yeah as much as the tracking mechanic in games such as LOTR and JW were tedious, they were still something. I really like the idea of different Jedi ranks. Like full on obstacles that maybe shine a different colour which then a hint bar comes up at the bottom stating you need a Jedi master to lift this object. Adding more variety to the Jedi themselves. That's actually awesome! God if only. But I'm glad you love the game. Thanks for the comment🙂
Yeah getting palpatine was legit one of the most dissapointing moments in a lego game for me when I realized he only threw his lightsaber instead of shooting out lightning like a beam
@@Destined2BeKing that would be a sick ability and would make me actually want to buy some more characters because there isn't a single story character with that ability
That has been a problem in Lego games for a long time now. As these games get bigger and bigger character rosters the characters feel less and less unique, and it's obvious they can't make all those characters feel different like in the past, where they would have to work on maybe 20 or 50 characters at most and there was no open world map to speak of. What happens in the end is that the game gives the main characters a better treatment and maybe has three or four different secondary characters to unlock that stand out among the others, but leaves the rest of the roster with recycled abilities and even animations; the most noticeable case of this being Lego DC Supervillains, where the main characters are very fun to play and the most expensive one in the game that you can get outside of the story, the Ventriloquist, has way better animations and a more creative set of abilities than all the others. I would say the last game that had very unique characters despite the size of its roster was Lego The Incredibles, but I suppose it's that way because they borrowed from a lot of Pixar's works and none of the characters from the two "The Incredibles" movies had similar superpowers.
This game really feels like it's trying way too hard to appeal to it's AAA brothers and sisters while moving away from made the LEGO games fun and unique in the first place. Also finally some LEGO Force Awakens praise. That game was good
In terms of the game’s simplicity in combat. It’s like they were building up to something quite complex. Maybe every individual ship or character gets a unique skill tree where they can unlock new abilities? (Seismic charges or dark saber e.t.c) but no, it really is just the same thing every time. Similarly, the enemies could have variations too. They could easily fix this.
Thank you for making this video, you put into words EXCACTLY how I felt playing this game. The worst purchase of my life. The cutscenes are the best part of this game, everything else is so void of anything fun that I felt truly miserable playing trough the story. And I have no desire to come back to it. We need to demand better.
When a game gets so hyped up it fails at even copying the previously good ones. Honestly i was going to buy it on release but after cyberpunk i don't trust the videogame industry
I can’t forgive this game for making Battle over coruscant Arresting the Chancellor And the Death Star 2 battle ALL cutscenes. That’s my genuine biggest gripe.
It was more of an RPG game than a LEGO game. I've been playing Assassin's Creed Origins and Odyssey recently and tbh The Skywalker Saga felt more like them than it did an actual LEGO game
When I started playing the game I barely got through the first level before putting the game down, at the time i couldn’t quite figure out what was wrong with the game but you were spot on
I haven't played the game in a while, but I remember there being being a bunch of filler stuff even though there's 9 movies to pull from. Also...there's no customization...how...
The issue I have with Skywalker Saga is that levels do not feel like levels. They are more structured around being accurate towards the films than doing there own thing. So some level are 2 minutes long and some are 10. Don't get me wrong I still like the game but it would be so much better if the levels followed the original Lego formula.
Fun fact: When playing the not chasing starship fights, I actually found it easier to stop moving as much as possible and wait for the enemy to come into view. I can’t believe they made flying around in spaceships so bad, that it’s just easier to stay in one place and shoot, because the enemies often have 100x more mobility than you do, combined with the fact that you’re too slow to catch up to them in normal speed, but in boosted speed you wind up whizzing past them In seconds
My biggest qualm with this game is the lack of a character creator. That feature has exponentionally increased the lifespan of these games for me, and it's absence has crippled my enjoyment of the game.
Dude for once I can see where someone is coming from when complaining about the skywalker saga. You seem like the only person who was genuinely a fan of the previous games that wasn’t happy with this one. And I get why the stuff you complained about could hold it down for some people like it did you, while it didn’t for me. However, other videos I’ve seen are so obviously for views and attention as all the complain about is how easy it is, which it’s a Lego game, of course it’s gonna be easy. And they also claim the “charm” is missing, which it isn’t despite it feeling different than the others. So honestly thank you for making the only good critique so to speak of this game
Thank you. I really appreciate it. I get a lot of comments saying that I'm just nostalgic, so that's why I didn't like the game. But thank you for your thoughts. Also I'm glad that you enjoy the game and continue to enjoy it. It's important to like what you like and defend it. So I hope you continue to. Thanks again🙂
42:00 I HATED voice acting in Lego games, because the way they presented the story before was genious and creative! With voice acting it's just: adjust the animation to the line.... done! make someone fall on a banana peel for laughs. I know you have a different opinion on this, but to me from the first game with voice acting the cutscenes already took a massive dive in creativity. Thank you, I did not know how to put my frustrations with this game into words, but you did a fine job.
Thank you. From the first gameplay footage of the game i became... sceptical. Everyone that received the early review copies and was showing small parts of "missions" that the marketing team allowed them to, saying how beautiful the game is and how good the combat feels. All i could see was the ugliest UI I've ever seen in a lego game, the worst split screen and neglect for player 2, lack of puzzles and bullet sponge enemies. I couldnt tell the bossfights apart if it wasn't for the different minifigures. But then the game came out and everyone seemed to love it. I was planning to buy it. But from the gameplay i saw? It did not look fun. The game industry seems to be heading towards a bad place. The people that control the mechanics and flow of the game don't seem to he experienced designers but rich excecutives concerned with which mechanic will sound better for the marketing. To sell more copies on release. Highly disappointed from TT.
I'll be as fair as I can. The 1st time I played this game was in early 2021 and I was 26 at the time. I couldn't possibly have been more disappointed with this game. Never bothered to play episodes 7-9. Just stopped after beating story for 1-6. Never replayed a single mission. I always get the "bro you're an adult playing a lego game of course you didn't like it. Stop being a baby. Blah blah blah." Then why did I absolutely love LEGO LOTR which I had never played until 2022? I was even older. I just can't keep up with the predicted shill excuses.
Impressively well made video for a channel of your size! Especially with how thorough you were, and attention to detail when editing, with which clips you chose to show.
what killed the skywalker saga for me was the fact that they made you play out nearly every little interaction, i couldn't even get through one chapter without completely losing interest over how much pointless content exists, overall i think lego games were better as level compilations and not open world-esque experiences the way lego dimensions did it was my favorite with the open worlds being entirely optional to the story
Thank you, I've been describing it as bloated and messy but no one agrees, they seem to like it because it has the things they know. Has anyone seen the red letter media skit about going through the haunted house super fast? That is this game
I find it sickeningly ironic that the property the games are built off of are intended to inspire creativity, yet the repetitiveness of segments, among other things are the complete opposite of inspired and creative.
One of the worst parts is not only can you not create a custom character, but Freeplay barely even lets you play as the character you want, you're forced to play as the story character
I think you hit something that I totally agree with. It isn't a lego game. It's a so-so star wars game with a lego skin. Other lego games are lego games first and wear the skin of the IP. For example, DC super villains is a lego game with DC skin. I think the people claiming this is the best lego game only ever played the complete saga years ago and none of the others since. I've played just about all of them (Jurrassic park, and lego movie1/2, Incredibles, and the spin-off whatevers I haven't played/bothered with). Playing DC super Villains had me excited for what they could do going back to star wars with all their new systems, and this is what the result was, literally none of their new innovations or creativity and completely lacking soul. I don't blame Tt developers directly, it was a publisher issue, namely WB Games. The production issues, overbearing leadership, and the engine stuff all just beat the hell out of passionate and skilled developers. Enough so that company veterans left the company after years of dedicated service. I didn't touch this game purely for the lack of character customizer, you know the thing that lego is all about, creativity and building your own stuff. I'll still probably play it eventually, if it gets added to game pass on xbox or it goes heavily (and I mean heavily) on sale. Just super disappointing. The game we could've gotten had they been allowed to keep using Unreal as the developers first intended, it would've been crazy. Especially since unreal 5 came out into early release during their development time and converting from unreal 4 to 5 is a very doable thing, even for an entire game.
THANK YOU! Thank you for saying all this! It needed to be said! I don't get why people consider this "the best Lego game ever", or, god forbid, "the best Star Wars game ever". It just proves that shiny grahpix will make players and reviewers blind to any flaw a game can have. No review I saw when the game released mentioned any of these issues: the game breaking bugs, the empty open-world, the uninteresting level design, and the generally dubious game design (collecting kyber bricks to upgrade ability... but the open-world have almost no enemy, so what's the point?). I'm glad someone stood up and said what needed to be said. As a side note, it's been nearly two months and the Maz Kanata glitch is still not fixed. The devs had to suffer and crunch just for us to get a very subpar game. To TT's management, I say: shame on you.
Same. I saw no one criticizing it when it first came out. I realized that the ATTE tanks and spider droids were in the cover of the game and they NEVER show up and I was trying so hard to find a video that pointed it out.
@@ripalexx No, a lot of people share your opinion. We just have different experiences and different standards. It doesn't mean this game doesn't suffer from grave problems
@@kenrichgumanid9235 if people think this game is a masterpiece or that it is flawless that’s their opinion which they are entitled to. It doesn’t make them wrong.
I complain about this every time a discussion about this game is being held and I will continue to do so forever: This game has around 12 characters. There's a HUUUUGE roster of SKINS for 10 of them. The only characters that actually have something special about them are the characters with jetpacks like the Fetts and maybe some minor differences like the Droideka's shield or the silver lady being immune to blasters. Like I know there were always a couple of character "classes" like jedi, bounty hunters and the droids that could do certain specific things things, but I feel like the list of things a given "class" could do was never this... rigid. Maybe because of the fact that this time around they're literally grouped and color coded it's way more noticable. But this is also the reason Finn and Rey forget their abilities when they change class and also why there can't be any characters that can do things multiple classes can do. Also Palpatine can't shoot lightning because it's not in his class' abilities list which is crimminal. Unlocking new characters and trying to get all of them was easily the most enjoyable thing about LEGO games for me when I was a kid, but now once I had one of every class unlocked I kinda lost my drive to unlock more. What a shame.
Here's something I'd want them to add: When an enemy capital ship arrives, you can use your own capital ship if you have one to send out 6-8 starfighters that match what would be inside that ship. I also wish you could add core upgrades that gave you a maximum of 4 assistance starfighters because it would be really cool to see giant space battles (the starfighters would only do 50 damage so you still have to do something)
Great video, I'm tired of hearing so much blind praise for this game. My brother and I lost interest after playing the last level of Episode III. We had so much fun playing as Anakin and Obi-Wan in the last level of the original LEGO Star Wars (2005), and we were expecting it to be very much the same kind of thing. Making that level a PVP battle was a no-brainer! Then we get to the equivalent level in the new game, only to find out one of us has to play as a droid and do busy work. I don't know if it is avoidable, but there was a good chunk of the level where NEITHER of us had control of Obi-Wan. We were R2 and C3-PO, forced to watch the duel in the background until we hit the required switches. Now THAT was insulting!
I literally have no idea why they decided to do this. It literally is the most confusing thing about the whole game. They didn't need anymore panels because they were gonna use them for the rest of the saga. The Lightsaber combat is the most polished aspect of the game, so you'd think they'd want to show it off. My only theory is that they never implemented a program where player 2 could defeat player 1. Which is why the Vader fight in ROTJ is so jarring.
Player 2 defeating player 1 doesn't even need anything special. If Anakin wins the PVP duel in the original, he still gets dismembered by Obi-Wan in the cutscene. Maybe just have Sidious blast Vader with lightning to prevent him from finishing Luke, since the plan was for Luke to kill and succeed his father as the emperor's apprentice.
Levels were little too short . I’m having fun with the game still, I still like shooting like my other party members off ledges XD But…yeah damn the obiwan and Anakin fight was so disappointing to me. Artificial padding with the r2 and 3-po sessions annoyed me. It’s not…awful. But it’s definitely a game made during lockdown and it shows . Least the levels are longer than sonic forces
I think it's more to do with the behind the scenes controversy, there's some fantastic, but terrible articles which document the time. And you just have to feel sorry for the developers. Lockdown was definitely a factor. But at the same time, Elden Ring came out. Forbidden West came out. I think it's more down to the terrible management and poor treatment of staff. But yeah, the Obiwan v Anakin fight is mind boggling to me😂 thank you for the comment🙂
I instantly realized that this game wouldn't feel like a Lego game was when it started looking more like a 3rd person shooter instead of an adventure puzzle platformer. And people thought I was insane
My biggest problems 1. No ability to replay episodes start to finish (including the open world segments) unless you start a whole new game 2. No large scale battles like in Lego Clone Wars 3. Too many pointless collectibles (The whole game philosophy seems to be quantity over quality) 4. Basically no ground vehicles 5. No air vehicles to traverse the open world (Republic Gunship for example) 6. No character creator 7. Post launch support was dropped after only a few months 8. Half-assed character pack "DLCs" 9. No Battle over Coruscant or Mace Windu vs Palpatine level 10. No enemies to fight in the open world except on extremely rare occasions. 11. Too much attention is given to the sequels at the expense of the actual Star Wars movies This game could've been SO much more. Video does a great job explaining my disappointment. Still can't help but love it regardless.
i feel like the sequels got more attention because they’re newer, but there are some characters (primarily in the sequels) that are there for one level and do nothing. *cough* *cough* Jannah *cough*
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I'm a gamedev and I met a dev from TT games at a tradeshow last year. We talked about this for a little bit and he described the unbelievable crunch that was involved. The team was not happy to work on this. Poor guy
That's really sad to hear. Yeah reading up on the devs pleading to let them use unreal and them being ignored, on top of like you said crunch and the fact that this felt so unconnected from everything else the team has done. Then on top of that so many veterans leaving, it really is a shame. And you can't help but feel bad for every single person who helped make this product. The delays were also definitely also harsh on the developers as they realized that the game they were making was constantly being re-worked and shuffled about away from what they intended. poor devs.
Really? I thought they worked on this many more years than any other lego game.
@ASHFAR578 sadly, the amount of time put into a game doesn't mean much when everything is being changed constantly by people who don't understand game development, design, and programming.
The developer crunch alone should be the main reason people shouldn't buy the game. The game is fine, but the working conditions the developers had to endure were unacceptable
@@theraymunatorcapitalism baby
by far the biggest dissapointment of this game for me was the fact that there are literally no enemies to fight on the hub worlds and even if you do find some, THEY DONT EVER RESPAWN.
Yeah the open worlds feel completely disconnected to the levels. Which I guess is the point. But I see a lot of people saying the main point of the game is the open world. But it doesn't do enough to warrant exploring thoroughly to leave the missions imo.
@@Smabbott yeah collecting blue bricks isnt exactly an insentive to explore 23 planets
yeah its so dissapointing that enemies are limited to one time quests, like they couldn't even put some tusken raiders on tatooine
@@Destined2BeKing yeah, i mean how hard is it to copy and paste a few into the worlds? they had ages to make this game and it kinda feels like a beta ngl.
@@thehalopig9083 facts
I think this is just another tragic example of how hamfisting every game Into the “open world” category hurts it more than it helps it…
the game
being open world isnt the problem tho so i dont agree with that, its the mission structure that does it
@@MtpMuzik The issue with Open Worlds is that they don’t always encourage the creation of curated environments/activities, sometimes they’ll have em but that’s not their purpose at the end of the day.
Open world games trade scripted events/scenarios with open landscapes where the player is tasked with “creating their own fun,” in some games where you have a lot of tools to work with this can work (like fallout, minecraft, and terraria.) But if you lean too much into that without a healthy gameplay loop then it comes off as lazy and hollow to a lot of players.
Yet Lego has made open world games (lord of the rings, batman 2, marvel super heroes, DC supervillains, city undercover) that utilize the format AMAZINGLY. I think something went very wrong with the development of the Skywalker saga
Open world is the new Battle Royale. When Fortnut and PUBG came out back then, every multiplayer game needed to have battle royale mode. Now it's open world for singleplayers. And now that Elden Ring became one of the most succesfull games ever, it will most likely continue for a few years until a new formula gets the spotlight.
@@ihatehandleupdatethis trend has been going on for a long time, years atleast.
My personal hatred are games with a "Do small missions in the open world to unlock main missions" games.
It can be well done and fun, stuff like Just Cause 2 come to mind as an old classic, but then you got the newer games in that series or stuff like Mafia 3 that just fall flet...
The weird thing is that the game felt like it was teasing Windu vs Palpatine as a level when you travel to his room as Windu and Kit Fisto in the open world. He wasn’t even an open world boss like Jango on Kamino was. I mean, why? Just why? We’ve wanted Windu vs Palpatine as far back as I can remember.
Lmao my little brother even waited for me to "play"that level because he saw Windu and Fisto and thought it was a fight.
I was so pissed when that fight was just skipped... Imo they should have made at least 6-8 levels per episode. And the freeplay sucks
They didn't wanna repeat levels from the og games, at least most of them!
@@ManyFaceImpressions repeating levels is kind of impossible to avoid when making an "upgraded" version of a game about a movie series
@@ManyFaceImpressions and Palpatine vs Mace was not even a level in the complete Saga, so they would have not repeated it anyway
The worst part was that there was no character customization. That used to be AT LEAST half the fun of a lego game for me as a kid.
How
@@speedwagon1824 making Ben swolo, buff yoda, yourself, custom clone troopers, custom Jedi. That’s pretty fun to do. Like you actually can build your own Lego character.
@@speedwagon1824 idk, you could make your favourite character that isnt in game or jusr make a fun character to play. I could even make some Legends characters in character creator in I, II, TCS and III.
@@mrzirak792 Even in The Force Awakens you can make your custom character
The most valid critique IMO
an aspect I personally felt "hurt" by, would be... for some reason they lock Scavengers behind episode 7. If you wanted to go through each episode in order, you need to go through more than half the game to unlock their abilities. Even if you get a scavenger character early, you can't use them.
This is the only character type to be locked this way.
What's making it worse, Scavenger-mandatory puzzles are found throughout all episodes. It gets discouraging really quickly
Gotta force people to play the garbage content(7, 8, 9)
You can also unlock the scavenger abilities during episode 6 with the ewok level.
@@mickmufson1824which sadly is still a while, considering you don’t unlock ROTJ unless you finish ANH and ESB
The Ewok level in particular is like, the third level in there? Meanwhile if you start at Force Awakens, it’s like the second one, and you already have TFA unlocked by default
This was my problem when playing as I started with ep 1 like any sane person would don
The only scavenger mandatory puzzles are the ones with the cracked walls, all others can be gotten through finesse.
Can we just appreciate how inventive it was to teach/show players exactly how they needed to progress at 5:30? Having the two destroyers roll onto the buttons to open the gate, and then roll off is so imaginative, and it sucks how the new game doesn't have any of that.
Literally tho, kinda like how Cod zombies in older games would use color to guide you through important locals, and it always gave a degree of help, even if small, the game is actively teaching you as you play, it’s just being clever Enough to hide it from the intended audience on a first run through
Worst part about this for me, not the biggest one, but the one I was most disappointed about was a character creation. I always loved getting every character, and each character could potentially unlock something new, and then, at the end I can create my character and have a combination of some of my favorite or most powerful abilities in my own style
What is even worse is that a while back, one of the devs literally said that it would be in the game 😭💀
@@ItsBoltify damn bro they bamboozled us
And then there are people saying “oh but there’s over 400 characters,” which is dumb for many reasons but that’s even worse! Imagine the shear customization!
I miss character customize too, but with such an empty world, I don’t even think it could have saved this game
@@morepenguins6247 plus the whole idea is Lego being able to take apart and put together in whatever way you want so not being able to take apart a character and reshape it into a new character is weird specially, when it’s been a feature in every single Lego game before that seems weird to just drop it now
One of my favorite additions to the classic Lego Star Wars formula was the full scale battles from Lego Star Wars 3:TCW, where you could go around spending your studs on battalions of clones (which Clone commander type characters could take command of), AT-TEs, force shields, and even sometimes a item generator that would give either a minikit or the level's red brick after accomplishing certain requirements, as new tiers of buildings unlocked the more spots you controlled.
Oh yeah I loved those missions
That shit sucked
If the Skywalker Saga incorporated a lot of those missions in the game I think the game would be way better
@@rjtay560 Going of of the boxart thats what i thought they where going to do
except for the jar jar one. that one sucked
It made me so incredibly disappointed when I realized that the first actual level was the stupid Bigger Fish scene. It baffles me how they thought that made sense.
wouldn't have been as bad if it involved more exploration or something, but yeah....
To be fair a majority of Episode I was a joke anyway. I was just happy to get the Episode over with lol
@@Benjamillion
The Maul level was nice though.
My main gripe is that creating more open world planets seemed to take away from the main levels themselves. The level is significantly smaller, there's significantly less puzzle solving and less cut scenes. Plus just because the open world planets look fairly well designed, doesn't mean I want to run around on them doing meaningless little quests. The complete saga from '07 had so much more charm and fun to be had I feel. You can see in a way how video games have changed considering how much of this game is just collectable fodder to squeeze as much time out of the player as possible.
Also what's up with the genosian arena? It looks empty!!
I follow and agree. Too much open world, despite i like it.....levels are missing and key aspects that make lego star wars lego star wars
But remember what the Final Fantasy fandom whined on for the last 14 years:
"linear bad".
@@JuanLeon-oe6xeYes, because they went from “not linear” to “linear”, in a manner that wasn’t graceful enough to receive excellent reception.
The original LEGO Star Wars games have nothing to compare themselves to, so their linearity is completely appropriate.
My brother and I were really excited to play this game when it came out. We had fond memories of playing the complete saga together when we were younger. The skywalker saga literally made us fall asleep. I'm not lying. As soon as we stopped playing we were awake and fine again. It's a real phenomenon.
After realizing how bad Skywalker Saga was after the first 3 missions of the game, I bailed. A month later got a steam deck, and the first game I installed was the Complete Saga.
same thing happened with me and my older cousin. we both grew up playing lego star wars tcs whenever id visit him among other games, and i bought TSS and waited for him to come over to play it. we only played 2 levels of the phantom menace. and ive never played it ever again. what a let down
My brother and I 100% Lego Star Wars 1,2,3 and the complete saga and we couldn’t even get through this or the force awakens the games have strayed so far from the idea of fun
@@aaronstark1969 Facts. I mean at least TFA's character creator is fun though. Skywalker Saga is just a disappointing mess.
That’s….kinda of pathetic. I mean I was a huge fan of the complete saga and I was disappointed by the skywalker saga but it was still fun
The longer I played the more disappointed I got. Most of the game and 'levels' were walk from point A to point B just to continue the story. I'd argue the clone wars lego game had more things you could do in the 'open' world than this and that one generally felt more fun despite it being restrictive for the time it came out. It honestly baffles me that we still do not have an open world star wars game that does things correctly.
Do people not like the clone wars game? I’ve always preferred the first one, but thought that objectively clone wars was better
@@gabeitch9142 apparently not, I always loved it though
@@gabeitch9142 clone wars was fire. Especially the huge battle levels. If only this game had anything like that...
@@the_seer_0421 yeah, best Lego starwars by far. TCS and TSS are way to uncreative in their puzzles.
@@gabeitch9142 it is objectively one of the best Lego games, as an example a Lego game expert, ruggedeagle says it's a top notch Lego game
Picking up yoda and having no crazy moves was a real bummer for me. Also there is no incentive in using the emperor when you could just use obi wan
Yeah, it doesn't seem like a big thing to criticize. But idk, to me it feels like wasted potential.
The emperor doesn’t even have lightning, which is really disappointing
@critter critterHow do you use it?
@@certified-clown it's only in combos sadly for ps4 its square square triangle and he shoots lighting so does count dooku
I think the emperor is faster
I remember how my favourite chracters in TCS were Count Dooku and Palpatine for the sole reason they could use lighting on almost any npc and yeet 'em away.
You can't imagine how disappointed i was when i bought them in TSS and noticed how this wasn't a thing anymore. As you said in the video,Sith are just more expensive Jedis now. No cool quirk they can kill npcs/enemies with or dark side related puzzles. And again,the fact that the characters you bought doesn't randomly appear in the hub worlds and start fighting each others it's an other let down. Mos Eisley Cantina it's still one of the most chaotic and fun hub worlds because of how easy it was to start a bar fight.
Yo those bar fights were sick I totally forgot about that 😂
That game was gravyyyy
Literally the reason why they became successful n they wonder why ppl don't like it
@@RobertAragonIsGhxstGravy?
Sith do have the ability to destroy cuttable walls (the ones you use a lightsaber to cut through) with the force, but you have to stand at a really specific angle and hold down a button.
I feel mixed on the game. Some times I love it, others I feel frustrated. I feel like this game needed another year or two to cook in the oven, especially thanks to the crunch put on devs.
Less to the crunch and more to the game design. The problems here show that they simplified game mechanics to add more numbers & worlds that ultimately feel formulaic.
With problems like this, one or two extra dev years wouldn't make a difference. Fixing them would essentially make a completely different game.
Maybe not that much time
@@TheRibbonRed what?
@@larniieplayz6285 game design problem.
It's like making Pokémon Snap and saying "they need to delay a few more years so that game can be Pokémon Sword & Shield". *That's not how game dev works.*
Skywalker Saga was *designed* to minimize features & expand quantity of characters & puzzles. You can't fix that with delays or crunch; it was a different game from the start.
@@TheRibbonRed thats what crunch... does. It causes game design problems by forcing them to simply the game mechanics and pad play time. you are literally describing the problem with crunching while saying its not a crunch problem.
it doesn’t help that the complete saga, made a decade and a half ago did half of what this did but better
For me, my only major problem is how they limited each episode to exactly 5 missions, leading the developers to turn some of the best sequences from the movies into cutscenes because of it.
Biggest disappointment for me was the almost complete lack of platforming puzzles… jumping around to progress and discover secrets, occasionally falling to my death was sooo fun in the complete saga. Just look at the obi wan vs anakin duel to see how it’s changed. Literally every jump between platforms is a quick time event lmao
Bruh what are you talking about, the game was great.
@@andrewtrash7158 you can literally see what he was talking about. Read the comment.
@@tophatcat1173 The whole obi wan and ani kan fight was my favorite fight in the game. It was very fun for me and the fact that he says that its worse that the original saga confuses me.
@@andrewtrash7158 the original saga was better
@@zzodysseuszz What do mean, in so many ways the Skywalker saga is better. Graphics, combat, open world, comedy, ships, amount of content, and they even have great voice acting. I don't know how you can say it's disappointing.
personally I find the story Hub interactions to be pretty fun despite the length of them. The problem I have is that because much of the story beats happen in these sections, I can't really replay the story of a certain film without having to start a new game and replay it's entire trilogy, I'd love to replay the story with maxed out character abilities and using different ships. I often got the most fun from the Hub sections as some story missions were just way too short, or don't show much importance.
Yeah it's weird to me that some cutscenes are connected to the open world. I had to play the whole game again to get the Battle over coruscant footage. I wonder why Lego games stopped having the room where you can view cutscenes.
In my opinion there should be some sort of super story so you can replay the whole story again in free play
@@Dr.DOMOphd that would be fun.
So everything is a Macro-scale, not Micra, basically? That's a shame 😕
@@Dr.DOMOphd so there's no free play in the Skywalker saga?
I think I would have prefered a remaster of Complete Saga. Still one of my favorite games of all time, and far above the few hours I put into disney's skywalker saga.
Yes.
They could have just remastered TCS with better graphics AND created 3 new levels to represent the Disney films.
That would still have sold well. Possibly better.
It seems that TT traded out creative Lego levels for Open World, and that’s no good.
If it were me, I would’ve actually scaled down the open worlds in favor of more creative Lego Levels/missions.
Yeah, a world doesn't have to be massive to be interesting.
@@Smabbott the thing is, the games open world's didn't leave much replayability, I would rather both get good focus. Why does it have to be one? Finally, Lego games are trying to be more replayable.
In my opinion, the Open Worl isn't even that good
@@Smabbott they didn’t even make them massive
@@errorschnansch1892 how?
I didnt even realize your ship takes visual damage as its health decreases. I'm at 80% of the game complete and ive never had a situation where my ship was damaged to that point.
Yeah that's what happens when you stand there and let all three shields drain😂 It's actually really cool tbf.
@@Smabbott bro you are gonna be famous i can see it
@@fuuuuuuuuuckyouprerna ill be there
@@fuuuuuuuuuckyouprerna I doubt it! But thank you😊
given how the enemies will often deliberately miss you, it explains why neither of us saw ships taking damage. I once left my game running in the death star and came back to all 4 stormtroopers in the game shooting at me, and my health had been regenerating quicker than the damage
As I played the game, I kept on thinking about the original games and kept on comparing them and made me want to play the original and older games.
Wow that example of the Cloud City mission just made me laugh and realize what a waste of time it was. I remember it being pretty boring but watching you complete it without doing anything unique or interesting made me feel silly actually fighting the troopers and trying to enjoy it lol
When I played it the level broke at about there and I had to replay the whole thing three times
@@Rocco049im so sorry for your loss
What I noticed is that the game, at least from what I've seen in trailers and gameplays, pretty much is a Lego style version of Disney Infinity 3.0 with the story being the one of the movies. The open worlds, the camera angle, etc. Especially flying around in space looks exactly like in Disney Infinity.
Yeah man I was just about to comment that😂😂😂. Everything was very familiar to me, from the bosses with health bars, the way you progress between levels, skill tree, and of course, EVERYTHING with space combat and vehicles. The bad part is that infinity let you create your own world's and do what you wanted. Also, Boba Fett's jetpack was useful at least😂
in a sense yeah it is and its disappointing
Lol I thought I was the only person who saw how it was similar to DI 3.0
You fail to explain why that's bad
@@isaiahbridges7442 I never said it was bad, but I think it's pretty disappointing.
While I love both DI 3.0 and the Lego Star Wars games, I expected a bit more.
This game was Starfield before Starfield came out. Too large for its own good.
Nah it's a lot better then Starfield really.
my biggest complaint about this game was the lack of character customization- to me that's what made lego games worth playing because I enjoy mixing and matching the parts of every unlockable character just to see what I could come up with and then replay missions while playing as the custom character, so that way I could have my own little flare in the missions and collect stuff as well- I get it's big, but with the amount of playable characters, that makes custom characters more fun to play as and would serve as the solidification of a traditional feature to keep around.
Yeah and seeing how far things have developed from Star Wars to DC Supervillains is insane! Imagine the different builds we could have had.
Not every LEGO game has it though and I barely used it. I like it when it’s not forced upon you like DC supervillains.
@@scotthenglefelt2893 that’s fair, and it is true that not every Lego game had it. I personally found DC Supervillain’s forcing a custom character on us was very creative from how the custom characters were before. It could have been just a demonstration of how they’ll run customization-
I legit cancelled my pre-order when I heard it was gone
this was great news for me as it meant youtubers couldnt try and inflict customs on us
I really hate to say it, but you’re absolutely right. 100% agree on everything, I remember booting this up and starting in chronological order to fill my head with nostalgia, started as Qui Gon on negotiations, then finishing it in like 5 seconds I was like that’s it?! And throughout episode 1 I was so confused on what was a level and what wasn’t. I got so bored just walking to point A to point B I just booted up another game to stop being bored. Throughout the game the problems you’ve said occur and it’s really sad cuz this could’ve been a great Lego game.
LMFAO EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE NO JOKE. No idea what a level was and what wasn’t. Didn’t make it past episode 1
Same! Big fan of the original games and the open world hubs are cool...but the actual levels are lackluster and you never know if its just another section of the hub or another actual level
I think u guys just got old. I’m pretty young and realky enjoyed it
@@deathmanor4155 this is hilarious because you’re probably right lol I’m 21 and I grew up with these games and the level system wasn’t the same as this one- I think that’s what people are more upset about
@@evnsconnor I think it's Far more likely that, becuase we are older. We know better.
With age comes experience and all that good stuff.
We have seen/grown up with games that did it propperly. So this half-arsed trash doesn't wash.
We KNOW what we are missing out on.
I’ve played through the first episode of this and started episode two and I knew something was off. I thought it was the inability to let a serious moment be serious (Qui Gon’s Death really felt tone deaf to me), but I think you’ve articulated what I was starting to perceive. The game just Ian Mt that interesting. Visually it’s immaculate, and the mechanics that are there work very well. Almost too well. I’m amazed how quickly you can play through something that would’ve taken 20 minutes in the complete saga.
isn’t*
Something that seems to be overlooked is that, when a game intended for children becomes too reliant on voice acting, it can deeply sour the experience for children whose languages aren't supported by the game. This review brought back memories of me attempting to simultaneously listen to dialogue while translating it for my younger siblings, a problem which lego games used to avoid, as everyone simply mumbled and all information was conveyed by gesturing and facial expressions. And while this game offers a mumble mode, it's very clearly just an afterthought.
I totaly agree. The charm of telling the story WITHOUT voice acting is one of the defining features of the first lego star wars games.
Being limited to mumbling was also a _great_ opportunity for more of the lego humor charm. Creativity is born from limitations after all, as the saying goes. There are so many moments where they had to convey some piece of info where they just outright told us through dialogue, while previous lego games would've had to find a way to communicate it through props or body language, and all of these moments are just completely missed opportunities.
People aren't asking for mumble to be back for the sake of the mumbling itself. People are asking for mumble to be back because that mumbling was part of the necessary _conditions_ for the most memorable jokes in the classic lego games.
That's how i first properly understood Star Wars in the first place.
Playing the old Lego Star Wars without knowing a lick of english.
I went back to play Lego Star Wars 2 and tbh it was way funnier without the voice acting
You do know you can just turn on mumble mode in extras at the start of the game
This is what you get when you play a game made by people who were under extreme pressure to get the product done, you don't get a labor of love, you just get "Lets churn out a project we know they'll eat up, regardless of its quality"!
This game should have had even more time in the oven with the scope they were trying to achieve without execs breathing down the necks of the devs constantly to just get it done.
I just feel sorry to all the developers as the directors weren't known by the team at all. But rather the new management choices from Sony who had no idea how to direct a Lego game and instead micromanaged and removed mechanics in which developers were working on for weeks without telling them. Another article was released detailing more than the polygon article. It just sucks.
They had plenty of time, it was delayed for 2 years since its initial launch on 2020. The devs just got too overwhelmed with the amount of expectations and ideas that they finally just came up with a product with so many new elements but not focusing on the ones that make a lego game enjoyable.
yea, there are alot of braindead kids that buy anything that has a brand they like. TH-camrs are taking advantage of their younger audience by making as many lego star wars skywalker saga videos as they possibly can so they get as much youtube money as possible. this was a great video.
@@Marvel32667 must actually agree, its still a fun game just feels less of a lego game
I do still think it was a labour of love but yeah the production was very messy but I don’t think it should’ve been delayed again all tho they announced it way too early that’s for sure.
The completion bonus had me angry. I put in the hours to complete the game & all you get is a stud fountain, dancing characters, & a retro version of one of the songs. The whole thing was made out to be as if the pyramid was going to turn gold & possibly unlock something secret like Indiana Jones as a playable character.
Really? That’s all you get?
Now that’s just pathetic.
I mean you get that in complete saga, but the difference was it was fun to 100% this game was just tedious
I’ve just gotten to Episode 5, and as I progressed, I had this odd feeling in the back of the mind that something was just _missing._
I love this game, but the flaws you have pointed out are incredibly hard to ignore. It first hit me when I played against Grievous. Admittedly, I was incredibly persistent and exclusively used Cody until I literally couldn’t anymore (same with Typho against Palpatine lol).
At some point I started to feel myself struggling to stay awake because some parts of this game is just so boring at times. I enjoy this game, I really do, but I wished it was just a little more.
In conclusion, they didn’t add Coleman Trebor, 0/10.
At least Yarael poof is added so 1/10 now
@@thepeskyone HOLY SHIT
This is how the magic of LEGO games dies. With thunderous applause.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the skywalker saga?
If the game studio had any ounce of respect for its employees, this game would be a masterpiece
i suppose that's true of many games
My biggest issue has been the lightsaber duels. I spent the entire level figuring out puzzles and I don’t want the duel to be mostly puzzle. It has been annoying because I would clash with the boss and just as the fight is getting good he flees and I have to spend the next few minutes figuring out a puzzle.
Yeah I actually agree. The grievous battle is so annoying for that. Really pulls you out of it.
Yeah like the high ground level Anakin and Obi-wan are supposed to be dueling to the death the whole time lightsabers swinging but then he just runs and you go to the droids and solve some puzzles
The "puzzle - duel for a bit - puzzle - duel for a bit" was the usual format for Lego Bosses since LSW1
@@Josh-os7vn yeah but this is like showing these crazy duels and the puzzles could be a little shorter
@@anakinlegowalker5167 That was just stupid they should have made that level like complete saga where one player gets to play as Anakin and the other plays as Obi Wan.
This was a nearly impossible job for some of the devs at Tt, especially with the stress they went through, it’s almost a miracle that they could actually make the game somewhat mediocre.
While I can appreciate them getting VAs from the show for the game, I’m disappointed by how much less fun the humor is than it is just a “meme”
Tbf, that was inevitable. However, they missed out the memes that actually stood the test of time and used the cringe ones. Perfect example of a company only understanding the surface level of a point.
@@Smabbottexcuse me, the “high ground” ones were great, and it wouldn’t be a Star Wars saga game without them
@@Drumming_Dragon yeah I’ll give you those ones😂
@@Smabbott yeah, I love how this game basically just has a recurring joke of taking the piss out of Anakin at every chance it gets that makes sense
@@Drumming_Dragon The Youngling jokes are very good with Anakin😂
I appreciate someone who's willing to criticize the game and call it what it is, and not just praise it because it's big and pretty
And let's not forget how big of an *L* it is that the game didn't bring over TCW's big battles
Yeah the TCW battle mode was FUN!!
HOLY SHIT TCW WAS SO DAMN FUN
I remember just hooking up anothrr Controller just to do Vs Mode and have one of those big battles...
Despite how disappointing some of the levels were handled, I was still able to enjoy the game, but the multiplayer was the biggest failure in my eyes. The fixed split screen felt so claustrophobic in the open world and the way coop is handled in a lot of the levels was very upsetting, me and my friend didn’t even make it through the phantom menace before deciding to just play it on our own. This game could have greatly benefited from online coop
I agree with you. At first, I was excited to go around collecting everything. But then, it just felt tedious to where I have taken a hiatus from the game completely. A lot of it is due to lack of time, but the fact that when I do have free time I don't consider playing this game should be telling for how much of a chore it can to play.
This is exactly how I felt! The game is majority filler, from the open worlds to the challenges I was never made aware of and failed to complete after each level , forcing me to go back and replay it to pad out the completion time of the game. I don’t understand how people rated this game so highly when it has no respect for the players time.
I’m glad I could finally discover a genuinely well thought out, sincere review of this game’s flaws, because I have been wondering if anyone has actually disliked LS: TSS. Personally, I am continuing to enjoy playing mainly because I am a big Star Wars fan and love being able to explore my favorite planets, hear and find references, and unlock a lot of my favorite characters.
When it was first announced, needless to say, I was very excited for what was in store. I thought I was going to get to play a modernized LS: TCS that would allow me to experience the 6 movies that I loved so much again and added three that were (for obvious reasons) not included in the previous game. I tried my best to avoid trailers and information about the game since I wanted to go into playing knowing as little as possible, however, I heard that I would be able to travel and explore a lot of planets, and that really excited me. For me personally, getting the opportunity to explore Star Wars planets was something special that nothing else has really done before, even JFO which only has 4 explorable planets.
When I finally got the game, downloaded it and played the first section, I said “This doesn’t feel like a Lego Star Wars game. It feels like a Star Wars Lego game.” because of how different it felt. Weird camera angle, weird combat system, weird ways of getting to different levels: it was so odd. However, the more I played the more comfortable I became with it, and something I discovered right from the get-go was how you literally played through the movies. Going from the Trad Federation ship to meeting Jar Jar to swim down to Otoh Gunga to escaping the goober fish and walking the streets of Theed, to break through the blockade and going to Tatooine and so on and so forth all the way to the end of the movie! Therefore, as a Star Wars fan, I was totally fine with the time between levels. I loved getting time between the action to really experience the amazing graphics and environments and talk to the people that Obi-Wan had to talk to in AotC in order to locate Kamino. I loved getting a tour of the clones from Lama Su and walking around my favorite planet. It was a SW experience unlike anything else.
Similar to my last point, I view the level design in a similar way. It almost felt like the open world in many aspects because of how short and concise each level was. I think they sacrificed the usual Lego level design for being able to play through the movies and tell as similar storyline and experience to the movies while still having hilarious dialogue from the characters like the two Resistance Medics carrying Rose on Crait! I think you can kinda see where I’m all going with this.
Lego wanted to make a different game than they ever had before, in more than one way: the main way being the way they set the player up to play through each film. Starting at the beginning and having a fluid pace in which they progressed through the story and ended. However, as I said near the beginning, I’m a big Star Wars fan who can deal with some of the repetition and over-all clunkiness that others might have a problem with because I just love playing through my favorite story. I can totally understand where you are coming from, since it being a Star Wars game isn’t enough for the normal person to blow off the problems the game can undeniably have such as the glitches, and time consuming collectable hunting as well as the different way you play depending on which you like better. It’s just for me, playing through each movie like LS: TSS let me was a unique, exciting experience that serves the player with what I feel nothing else has been able to for this story that is Star Wars, and I for one, am all for it.
Well said.
Wondering if anyone disliked the game? You must be watching something different because there is literally nothing of hate for it
Wow….
@@nativepredator8803 ?
I am totally with you I’m just a giant Star Wars fan and can ignore the repetitiveness of the game
I think what makes me enjoy this game so much is the fact I'm a big collectathon fan and the game is mostly a colossal collectathon in open levels like Banjo-Kazooie. I love this game, but your criticisms so far (I'm not quite at the end yet, but still) have all been completely valid and I hope TT takes this video to heart and dials back the scale for the next game, focusing on a tight story with a side open world instead of a huge open world with decent but not anything special levels.
My two biggest pet peeves about this game are: no creating your own custom Lego character, and no story replay-ability beyond a few select missions.
I personally like the new stud bar, but my main problem is the lack of enemy’s and character customization. And I wish you could replay the side missions.
yeah, if you have character, ship, or kyber brick, it should just give you studs
And the lack of potential enemies, mass armies (TCW)....
faction pissoffery(TCW&TCS)
Civilian pissoffery(TCS)
Partner pissoffery (TCW)
and bar fights....
The main problem I have is that I have 20 hours played on this game and as soon as I finished episode 9 I never returned to it, and I cannot remember anything. I can’t even remember a single level I genuinely cannot
Glad to see somebody call this game out. It seems like any criticism of this game is ignored and denied by fanboys and it infuriates me.
Just people with opinions which is all this is. You can like what you like at the end of the day🙂
@@Smabbott W mature ness
And those that do call it out get trolled for their opinions. Like for instance wanting it boycotted for everything that happened behind the scenes and removal of key LEGO game elements. Those supporters are the real ones who don't understand what real LEGO fans like. And to think they had the audacity to say I wasn't a true LEGO fan! Idiots! It's just bland and unenjoyable to me.
I am angry that people were praising so much. I spent money for this game and there is nothing that good about it. Finally someone is speaking the truth about negative things
@@jabbadaben9146 I don't understand what people are watching? I have literally seen nothing but absolute hate for the game. And this guy is nowhere near the first person to talk about not liking it
It also turns out that Disney was also pushing hard on the game makers according to several devs that left the project. They were forced to do the sequels first, it was worse to deal with since at the time The Rise of Skywalker didn’t come out so they had to wait until it eventually came out to start working on it. They did the prequels last, which is why it’s levels feel unfinished and short
Edit: They’ve added in the cut capital ships. I suppose they are listening to the fans, which is good. I’m hoping the customizer is next.
That's explains why the best level in the game is the Raftar capture or 'reap what you solo'
@@Smabbott
Yeah, it’s really unfortunate that the devs were being pushed by both the higher ups and the company that gave them permission to create a new Star Wars Game. I just hope the next game doesn’t have the devs be pushed to the brink of leaving. I hope the next game will be polished and really complete. I think The Skywalker Saga is a step in the right direction. But it isn’t perfect.
That sucks makes me hate Disney more
That's stupid they would have to wait for the movie to come out first the og Lego game came out before episode 3 was released.
@@PearlBladeBeats
🤷 That’s Disney for ya. I guess it was because The Sequels were made by Disney. So they would want their movies to be adapted first. They also don’t really like the prequels that much. They only supported The Clone Wars due to how popular it was.
This is the most well said and honest review of this game I have seen. I was confused because it seemed so many were enjoying this game, when all I was getting was a migraine from all of the repetitive gameplay. This isn’t a nostalgic trip for lego star wars at all, it’s something completely different.
I thought I was the only one who thought this game was shallow and generic. This game had so much potential to be something special but instead we got a game that has boring levels.
It’s boring cuz u too old lol
A Lego game can NOT be a Lego game without character creation. Simply mind-boggling.
the best boss battle isn't described on how much you like the boss battle its on how much you like the character
True.
*_FINALLY_* somebody started talking about this. I've watched and played the game and I am astounded by how many people fall heads over heels for it. It's like, "Did we even play the same game?" What's worse is how some the earlier entries in the Lego games were bashed as hard as they were and this is praised to high hell. It's like rose tinted glasses were welded on tight because people were so starved for a full on Lego Star Wars game.
Yeah I completely agree. Except it's a Lego game second and a star wars game first. Thanks for your comment🙂
@@Smabbott is that such a bad thing.
Hm
@@scotthenglefelt2893 It is when people have been waiting over 2 years for a “Lego” game…as someone who ONLY plays Lego games, it’s been a long, hard wait. And a disappointing result. I don’t care for Star Wars, haven’t seen all the films, probably never will. I bought the game because it’s supposed to be a Lego game, not just a Star Wars game.
@@sprockett7798 it is more a Lego game than a Star Wars game, take all the jokes and references in cutscenes and dialogues. They are distancing themselves from the movies in this game.
The force awakens was actually a really enjoyable game. I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s bad because it was based off a film that people didn’t like, the gameplay consists of more than walking to the end of the level.
I haven’t played either Lego Force Awakens or this game, but at first glance, Force Awakena seems far and away the better game
The one sequel trilogy comment not negative that I agree with,
Force awakens had good levels, (except level 7) even if it was a bit stretched out,
And unlike this, the levels were fun to replay, skywalker sagas levels are mostly not interesting enough to replay many times
OMG! That game was my childhood!
If The Force Awakens was themed around Revenge Of The Sith it would be considered one of the best LEGO Star Wars games
Faccs
And now I wish I saw this before getting the game. Would’ve saved some disappointment
And another gripe I have is no custom characters. They’re always my favorite part but they’re not here
Likely to prevent people from making characters they can charge for with dlc
This
i loved the game but absolutely understand where you're coming from. and the character roster is so frustating, like there are so many cool characters you can give unique abilities to but they are the same as everyone else in that character class. the villain class is the best since sometimes they come with a unique weapon like a flamethrower but that is not enough for me. i had a couple ideas to make the roster more unique like make some less experienced jedi only have distract as they're force ability while those with more knowledge could have the mind trick and panic too, tusken raiders and jawas could dig in the ground, maybe even go underground to do a 2d section like dig dug. commander cody or antilles could command troops just like in lego star wars 3 the clone wars, the list just goes on and the fact that they just copy the same abilities for an entire character class expect if they have a jetpack is so dissapointing. if i could sacrifice character upgrades for characters being more unique i would.
Those are some really cool abilities there. Yeah as much as the tracking mechanic in games such as LOTR and JW were tedious, they were still something. I really like the idea of different Jedi ranks. Like full on obstacles that maybe shine a different colour which then a hint bar comes up at the bottom stating you need a Jedi master to lift this object. Adding more variety to the Jedi themselves. That's actually awesome! God if only. But I'm glad you love the game. Thanks for the comment🙂
Yeah getting palpatine was legit one of the most dissapointing moments in a lego game for me when I realized he only threw his lightsaber instead of shooting out lightning like a beam
@@Destined2BeKing that would be a sick ability and would make me actually want to buy some more characters because there isn't a single story character with that ability
That has been a problem in Lego games for a long time now. As these games get bigger and bigger character rosters the characters feel less and less unique, and it's obvious they can't make all those characters feel different like in the past, where they would have to work on maybe 20 or 50 characters at most and there was no open world map to speak of.
What happens in the end is that the game gives the main characters a better treatment and maybe has three or four different secondary characters to unlock that stand out among the others, but leaves the rest of the roster with recycled abilities and even animations; the most noticeable case of this being Lego DC Supervillains, where the main characters are very fun to play and the most expensive one in the game that you can get outside of the story, the Ventriloquist, has way better animations and a more creative set of abilities than all the others.
I would say the last game that had very unique characters despite the size of its roster was Lego The Incredibles, but I suppose it's that way because they borrowed from a lot of Pixar's works and none of the characters from the two "The Incredibles" movies had similar superpowers.
All I hear when reading this comment is nothing but a bunch of whining and complaining.
So basically they turned Lego into Ubisoft open-world schlock.
This game really feels like it's trying way too hard to appeal to it's AAA brothers and sisters while moving away from made the LEGO games fun and unique in the first place.
Also finally some LEGO Force Awakens praise. That game was good
Yeah the Force Awakens is actually a great game. It's a shame that it is basically a star wars game first and a Lego game second.
@@Smabbott ok???
In terms of the game’s simplicity in combat. It’s like they were building up to something quite complex.
Maybe every individual ship or character gets a unique skill tree where they can unlock new abilities? (Seismic charges or dark saber e.t.c) but no, it really is just the same thing every time.
Similarly, the enemies could have variations too.
They could easily fix this.
I was really upset when it came to Episode 3.
I was really hoping to be able to fight someone else, one being Anakin and one being Obi-Wan...
For the life of me I don’t get why they didn’t do it.
Thank you for making this video, you put into words EXCACTLY how I felt playing this game. The worst purchase of my life. The cutscenes are the best part of this game, everything else is so void of anything fun that I felt truly miserable playing trough the story. And I have no desire to come back to it. We need to demand better.
When a game gets so hyped up it fails at even copying the previously good ones. Honestly i was going to buy it on release but after cyberpunk i don't trust the videogame industry
“How did it get the reputation that it has?”
“Because it was Lego Star Wars, a legend”
I can’t forgive this game for making
Battle over coruscant
Arresting the Chancellor
And the Death Star 2 battle
ALL cutscenes. That’s my genuine biggest gripe.
It was more of an RPG game than a LEGO game. I've been playing Assassin's Creed Origins and Odyssey recently and tbh The Skywalker Saga felt more like them than it did an actual LEGO game
When I started playing the game I barely got through the first level before putting the game down, at the time i couldn’t quite figure out what was wrong with the game but you were spot on
I haven't played the game in a while, but I remember there being being a bunch of filler stuff even though there's 9 movies to pull from. Also...there's no customization...how...
The issue I have with Skywalker Saga is that levels do not feel like levels. They are more structured around being accurate towards the films than doing there own thing. So some level are 2 minutes long and some are 10. Don't get me wrong I still like the game but it would be so much better if the levels followed the original Lego formula.
This game feels like a high school project that started off good (graphics/effects) then realized there was supposed to be gameplay at the last month.
Yeah I have to say I'm not a fan of the sequel trilogy, but The Force Awakens felt much more intuitive than The Skywalker saga
I don't get why the new combat (blasters) is now some fps. The original Lego SW was never focused that, it feels like a bad battlefront but with lego.
Fun fact: When playing the not chasing starship fights, I actually found it easier to stop moving as much as possible and wait for the enemy to come into view. I can’t believe they made flying around in spaceships so bad, that it’s just easier to stay in one place and shoot, because the enemies often have 100x more mobility than you do, combined with the fact that you’re too slow to catch up to them in normal speed, but in boosted speed you wind up whizzing past them In seconds
My biggest qualm with this game is the lack of a character creator. That feature has exponentionally increased the lifespan of these games for me, and it's absence has crippled my enjoyment of the game.
When working conditions aren’t good, the products aren’t good. Gamedevs, cgi artists, etc need strong unions
Ubisoft and its consequences have been a disaster for open world game design.
Dude for once I can see where someone is coming from when complaining about the skywalker saga. You seem like the only person who was genuinely a fan of the previous games that wasn’t happy with this one. And I get why the stuff you complained about could hold it down for some people like it did you, while it didn’t for me. However, other videos I’ve seen are so obviously for views and attention as all the complain about is how easy it is, which it’s a Lego game, of course it’s gonna be easy. And they also claim the “charm” is missing, which it isn’t despite it feeling different than the others. So honestly thank you for making the only good critique so to speak of this game
Thank you. I really appreciate it. I get a lot of comments saying that I'm just nostalgic, so that's why I didn't like the game. But thank you for your thoughts. Also I'm glad that you enjoy the game and continue to enjoy it. It's important to like what you like and defend it. So I hope you continue to. Thanks again🙂
Yup! This is exactly what I felt. It feels way too short and I miss the great open levels that have lots of good puzzles and platforming. Shame
The scene of Vader just showing a picture of him and padme is just peak Lego game comedy while also conveying the story beat.
42:00 I HATED voice acting in Lego games, because the way they presented the story before was genious and creative!
With voice acting it's just: adjust the animation to the line.... done! make someone fall on a banana peel for laughs.
I know you have a different opinion on this, but to me from the first game with voice acting the cutscenes already took a massive dive in creativity.
Thank you, I did not know how to put my frustrations with this game into words, but you did a fine job.
Thank you. From the first gameplay footage of the game i became... sceptical. Everyone that received the early review copies and was showing small parts of "missions" that the marketing team allowed them to, saying how beautiful the game is and how good the combat feels. All i could see was the ugliest UI I've ever seen in a lego game, the worst split screen and neglect for player 2, lack of puzzles and bullet sponge enemies. I couldnt tell the bossfights apart if it wasn't for the different minifigures.
But then the game came out and everyone seemed to love it. I was planning to buy it. But from the gameplay i saw? It did not look fun. The game industry seems to be heading towards a bad place. The people that control the mechanics and flow of the game don't seem to he experienced designers but rich excecutives concerned with which mechanic will sound better for the marketing. To sell more copies on release. Highly disappointed from TT.
I'll be as fair as I can. The 1st time I played this game was in early 2021 and I was 26 at the time. I couldn't possibly have been more disappointed with this game. Never bothered to play episodes 7-9. Just stopped after beating story for 1-6. Never replayed a single mission. I always get the "bro you're an adult playing a lego game of course you didn't like it. Stop being a baby. Blah blah blah."
Then why did I absolutely love LEGO LOTR which I had never played until 2022? I was even older. I just can't keep up with the predicted shill excuses.
@@bobafett8768 yeah I hate the argument it’s a kids game. That does not absolve it of all criticism.
Dude, DISNEY star wars is insulting.
Everything associated with their dumpsterfire of a trillogy has been SHIT. Why would this be any different?
Impressively well made video for a channel of your size! Especially with how thorough you were, and attention to detail when editing, with which clips you chose to show.
Thank you very much. That means a lot!🙂
what killed the skywalker saga for me was the fact that they made you play out nearly every little interaction, i couldn't even get through one chapter without completely losing interest over how much pointless content exists, overall i think lego games were better as level compilations and not open world-esque experiences
the way lego dimensions did it was my favorite with the open worlds being entirely optional to the story
Thank you, I've been describing it as bloated and messy but no one agrees, they seem to like it because it has the things they know. Has anyone seen the red letter media skit about going through the haunted house super fast? That is this game
I find it sickeningly ironic that the property the games are built off of are intended to inspire creativity, yet the repetitiveness of segments, among other things are the complete opposite of inspired and creative.
One of the worst parts is not only can you not create a custom character, but Freeplay barely even lets you play as the character you want, you're forced to play as the story character
I think you hit something that I totally agree with. It isn't a lego game. It's a so-so star wars game with a lego skin. Other lego games are lego games first and wear the skin of the IP. For example, DC super villains is a lego game with DC skin.
I think the people claiming this is the best lego game only ever played the complete saga years ago and none of the others since. I've played just about all of them (Jurrassic park, and lego movie1/2, Incredibles, and the spin-off whatevers I haven't played/bothered with). Playing DC super Villains had me excited for what they could do going back to star wars with all their new systems, and this is what the result was, literally none of their new innovations or creativity and completely lacking soul. I don't blame Tt developers directly, it was a publisher issue, namely WB Games. The production issues, overbearing leadership, and the engine stuff all just beat the hell out of passionate and skilled developers. Enough so that company veterans left the company after years of dedicated service.
I didn't touch this game purely for the lack of character customizer, you know the thing that lego is all about, creativity and building your own stuff.
I'll still probably play it eventually, if it gets added to game pass on xbox or it goes heavily (and I mean heavily) on sale.
Just super disappointing. The game we could've gotten had they been allowed to keep using Unreal as the developers first intended, it would've been crazy. Especially since unreal 5 came out into early release during their development time and converting from unreal 4 to 5 is a very doable thing, even for an entire game.
THANK YOU! Thank you for saying all this! It needed to be said! I don't get why people consider this "the best Lego game ever", or, god forbid, "the best Star Wars game ever". It just proves that shiny grahpix will make players and reviewers blind to any flaw a game can have. No review I saw when the game released mentioned any of these issues: the game breaking bugs, the empty open-world, the uninteresting level design, and the generally dubious game design (collecting kyber bricks to upgrade ability... but the open-world have almost no enemy, so what's the point?).
I'm glad someone stood up and said what needed to be said.
As a side note, it's been nearly two months and the Maz Kanata glitch is still not fixed. The devs had to suffer and crunch just for us to get a very subpar game. To TT's management, I say: shame on you.
Same. I saw no one criticizing it when it first came out. I realized that the ATTE tanks and spider droids were in the cover of the game and they NEVER show up and I was trying so hard to find a video that pointed it out.
I mean, it’s just peoples opinions, if they like it they like it. You can’t get mad at it.
am i the only one that loves this games more than any other lego game?
@@ripalexx No, a lot of people share your opinion. We just have different experiences and different standards. It doesn't mean this game doesn't suffer from grave problems
@@Lefty9678 Yeah except when the game came out if you said anything negative about it youd be swarmed by npcs saying it was the best game of all time
The worst parts are no customs and the free play in every lightsaber duel doesn't let you change your character for no reason
I’m glad someone has the guts to ridicule this game. I’m tired of people treating it like a flawless masterpiece
If you think it's flawless, how about the Yoda death sound effect, the DLC dialogues, etc.
@@kenrichgumanid9235 if people think this game is a masterpiece or that it is flawless that’s their opinion which they are entitled to. It doesn’t make them wrong.
I agree with both parties, right and wrong.
I complain about this every time a discussion about this game is being held and I will continue to do so forever: This game has around 12 characters. There's a HUUUUGE roster of SKINS for 10 of them. The only characters that actually have something special about them are the characters with jetpacks like the Fetts and maybe some minor differences like the Droideka's shield or the silver lady being immune to blasters. Like I know there were always a couple of character "classes" like jedi, bounty hunters and the droids that could do certain specific things things, but I feel like the list of things a given "class" could do was never this... rigid. Maybe because of the fact that this time around they're literally grouped and color coded it's way more noticable. But this is also the reason Finn and Rey forget their abilities when they change class and also why there can't be any characters that can do things multiple classes can do. Also Palpatine can't shoot lightning because it's not in his class' abilities list which is crimminal.
Unlocking new characters and trying to get all of them was easily the most enjoyable thing about LEGO games for me when I was a kid, but now once I had one of every class unlocked I kinda lost my drive to unlock more. What a shame.
Here's something I'd want them to add:
When an enemy capital ship arrives, you can use your own capital ship if you have one to send out 6-8 starfighters that match what would be inside that ship. I also wish you could add core upgrades that gave you a maximum of 4 assistance starfighters because it would be really cool to see giant space battles (the starfighters would only do 50 damage so you still have to do something)
Great video, I'm tired of hearing so much blind praise for this game.
My brother and I lost interest after playing the last level of Episode III. We had so much fun playing as Anakin and Obi-Wan in the last level of the original LEGO Star Wars (2005), and we were expecting it to be very much the same kind of thing. Making that level a PVP battle was a no-brainer!
Then we get to the equivalent level in the new game, only to find out one of us has to play as a droid and do busy work. I don't know if it is avoidable, but there was a good chunk of the level where NEITHER of us had control of Obi-Wan. We were R2 and C3-PO, forced to watch the duel in the background until we hit the required switches. Now THAT was insulting!
I literally have no idea why they decided to do this. It literally is the most confusing thing about the whole game. They didn't need anymore panels because they were gonna use them for the rest of the saga. The Lightsaber combat is the most polished aspect of the game, so you'd think they'd want to show it off. My only theory is that they never implemented a program where player 2 could defeat player 1. Which is why the Vader fight in ROTJ is so jarring.
Player 2 defeating player 1 doesn't even need anything special. If Anakin wins the PVP duel in the original, he still gets dismembered by Obi-Wan in the cutscene. Maybe just have Sidious blast Vader with lightning to prevent him from finishing Luke, since the plan was for Luke to kill and succeed his father as the emperor's apprentice.
Levels were little too short . I’m having fun with the game still, I still like shooting like my other party members off ledges XD
But…yeah damn the obiwan and Anakin fight was so disappointing to me. Artificial padding with the r2 and 3-po sessions annoyed me.
It’s not…awful. But it’s definitely a game made during lockdown and it shows .
Least the levels are longer than sonic forces
I think it's more to do with the behind the scenes controversy, there's some fantastic, but terrible articles which document the time. And you just have to feel sorry for the developers. Lockdown was definitely a factor. But at the same time, Elden Ring came out. Forbidden West came out. I think it's more down to the terrible management and poor treatment of staff. But yeah, the Obiwan v Anakin fight is mind boggling to me😂 thank you for the comment🙂
The Boba Fett fight was kaka
I'd take Sonic Forces over this ngl.
@@vocalcalibration8033 Same
@@vocalcalibration8033 No. Just no.
I instantly realized that this game wouldn't feel like a Lego game was when it started looking more like a 3rd person shooter instead of an adventure puzzle platformer. And people thought I was insane
My biggest problems
1. No ability to replay episodes start to finish (including the open world segments) unless you start a whole new game
2. No large scale battles like in Lego Clone Wars
3. Too many pointless collectibles (The whole game philosophy seems to be quantity over quality)
4. Basically no ground vehicles
5. No air vehicles to traverse the open world (Republic Gunship for example)
6. No character creator
7. Post launch support was dropped after only a few months
8. Half-assed character pack "DLCs"
9. No Battle over Coruscant or Mace Windu vs Palpatine level
10. No enemies to fight in the open world except on extremely rare occasions.
11. Too much attention is given to the sequels at the expense of the actual Star Wars movies
This game could've been SO much more. Video does a great job explaining my disappointment. Still can't help but love it regardless.
i feel like the sequels got more attention because they’re newer, but there are some characters (primarily in the sequels) that are there for one level and do nothing. *cough* *cough* Jannah *cough*