HY6040 5 Axis Simultaneous
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This is a full 5 axis simultaneous part on my HY 6040 CNC with a new Grizzly 2" centering vise.
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Hey! Just curious, how is this machine performing 4 years later? I'm looking at a very similar one and I would love to hear your feedback if you have time! I'm hoping to use it to machine aluminum parts at home. I use fusion360 and inventor regularly. Thanks Dan! Very cool video!
The machine performs the same after 4 years, not much changes. The version I have was updated 3 years ago after I got mine, if you are looking to mill aluminum, I would suggest a gantry style machine for more rigidity.
Thanks for taking the time to respond! Have you machined aluminum with yours? I'm curious where its weaknesses reside and if they can be engineered out. It's such and affordable and capable looking machine. There's really nothing else out there like this for the price point. The 5th axis is the real draw for me. @@HandyDan
@@degreeless_engineering The weakness is the rigidity of the column and 5th axis. I suggest you watch the A axis upgrade and B axis upgrade videos. That is the real problem with this machine rigidity or lack of.
Thank you for watching.
If there's any questions or if you want to see a video on any details just leave a comment.
Hey Dan I enjoyed this video, thanks! Is this machine from cnc china zone company?
@@marin.kucina
Yes this is a ChinaCNCzone HY6040. However you should watch my other videos in this series to see what I had to do to get the machine rigid enough to actually mill hard plastic and aluminum
@@HandyDan thanks for reply. I will watch that video! Have you had any problems with setting up G code software?
@@marin.kucina
I use CAD CAM to generate G-Code. There's a lot of software for making G-Code
@@HandyDan ok thanks!
So 3 years later are you still happy with it or did you run into problems? I'm considering buying one but it's a 3k$ gamble
I bought mine several years ago and it was $1,290.
I'm not completely happy with the lack of rigidity and the tool changes manually in the middle of every program, but for the most part it will make a lot of things. And cut aluminum if you stay beside it with ear plugs and spray the cutter with some thing like WD 40
@@HandyDan Lack of rigidity is to be expected for such a small/cheap mill. Also aluminum react the same on my lath. I have to drench the thing in cuting oil to prevent chips from sticking to the cutting tool. Anyway thanks for taking the time to answer me ^^
Hi Dan, How do you get 5 axes on Mach3? My version only has 4? Rob from Australia
Ha ha yes, mine too 😆
I did the 5 axis simultaneous and Mach3 ran the rotation super slow, Mach3 has A axis rotation compensation but nothing for B axis or C axis
As mach4 is out do you know dan if they have upgraded the machine to mach4?
Good to hear, I have been thinking about Mach4, To your question about the machine being upgraded, they did upgrade the mechanical system more rigid, as for Mach3 or Mach4, the machine itself doesn't run the software, Mach runs on a computer that connects to the mill USB
Now I understand a sound-booth, air stream, and vacuum!
Oh yeah - that was a hilarious gremlin bit!
do you have the post processor for the hy6040 for sale as I see your using it on the machine?
I can email it to you, are you using SolidWorks and CamWorks?
Email me and I'll send you the info. message2dan@live.com
Hello, do you happen to have the CD contents of the machine, I just got one second hand and missing the CD
Mine didn't come with any CD or any software. I use Mach3 from ArtSoft to run the machine. You will need some modeling software and CAM system. Fusion360 is a great way to start, free and plenty of tutorials 👍
Will this machine good to mill harder steel? to make 3d shapes
If you are trying to mill steel, I would not recommend this machine.
Hi there great content. Can you point me out to the video that you did upgrade?
After the upgrade could you STAINLESS STEEL?
hello, I have mach4 and need 5 axis post process. which post process should I use for mastercam?
Hello and thank you for watching, I believe Master cam has a few basic posts to use. I would suggest looking through them and test a simple box with text on the sides X Y Z and see how your machine reactions are, set Z above the part for your initial testing. Let me know what you find for the best and what things do not work.
Hi Dan, i just got that machine and i am having some problems. I use Fusion 360 for CAM and the controller is mach3 and I edited it to have both 4th and 5th axis but i simply cannot get the 5axis continuous toolpath to be like the one I programmed. Can you tell me if you use machine rotary zero position (MRZP) to be part zero. Thanks mate :)
Good to hear you have the machine and already have a tool path in Fusion 360.
I would like to know more of what is the issue, I don't use Fusion so I can't relate to MRZP, my CAD CAM is always zero at the table tilt axis and rotation axis.
@@HandyDan Thanks for responding man :) So my issue is that for instance, if i create a flow toolpath with 5 axis continous, the machine movements do not correspond to what the ones i programmed. So i think this is related to the post-processor that i am using. I edited both a mach3 and a Fanuc post-processor according to the machine´s setup but the 5 axis continuous problem keeps happening no matter what. Have you ever experience something like this when you used that machine?
@@The03ulisses I have been very successful with 3+2 meaning positional. When it comes to simultaneous 5 axis I have similar problems. I had no issues with the half spherical dome. But I then tried a more complex part and on one curved toolpath that looked perfect in CAM software but on my mill the arc was way off and my table traveled like it was 200mm arc instead of 5mm
@@HandyDan yeah, i am gonna try to keep the 5 axis continuous as simple as i can, it is just a shame that the instructions that come with the machine are so basic that they just don´t mention this. Anyways, than you for your time and keep up with the videos man, they are great ;)
Which cam do you use?
I use Camworks 2019 inside Solidworks 2018.
Nice video man this looks awesome so does the machine, I’m also using solidworks and mach3 could you possibly send me the post processor that you used for this video? Thanks man and nice video again
Thank you for your reply, you can email me at message2dan@live.com
I can send you the files to add to SolidWorks if you use SolidWorks CAM
Hello, im looking for post procesor to work on this machine, could you share with me ?
What CAM software do you use?
A post processor needs to be configured to work between the CAM software and machine.
Can you remove the 5 axis and do regular cutting and milling on the table it is clamped to?
Yes, I do that often. It comes in a different box and they show the 5th axis clamped to the table, I drilled and tapped threads to bolt mine in place.
Dan, after using this machine for a few years, do you recommend it? Thinking of getting one.
@fastbird101 It really depends on what you are planning on machining.
I chose it because the next step up is around $7k. I paid like $1,200 when I got mine.
I have made plenty of plastic parts, several wooden pieces and several aluminum pieces, aluminum is very noisy and requires some attention to spray cooling or mist.
But in all it does work good
Hello! I hope to make one. This type of servo motor is also a stepping motor. What other models are there, and which axis card is used for printing? Can the operation interface also be introduced? Or the place where the whole unit is purchased? Can you introduce
Hello, are you building your own machine? Most use stepper motors only. Servos with closed loop encoders require more advanced controllers. You will also need a breakout board and software like Mach3 or Linux CNC.
Which Mach3 breakout board u r using in this and what is the speed of board
I have the original board in this mill, I purchased another breakout board that has more functionality, but I never put it in. I mainly use this mill for 3 axis, not sure why I bought it 5 axis 🤣
it is ok
I just want to know that
Speed of breakout board i mean 100 khz or 125 khz or 200 khz or 500 khz or 2 mhz
@@innovativetec1362 I believe 1mhz
Hello love from India
I am looking for 100khz breakout board this is very cheap i don't know it works completely and correctly or not
@Innovative tec I have the older China Zone CNC with the main board, it has 3 axis drivers and the breakout on one main board.
I bought a more featured product bur have not yet installed it. I found it on Amazon
DAOKI DC 12-24V CNC Breakout Board 5 axis Mach3
hello, what software do you use to create gcode?
I post my code within Solidworks using Camworks
@@HandyDan THank you
hello, I also have mach3 and need 5 axis post process. which post process should I use for solidcam? to mach3
What CAD system do you use?
@@HandyDan ı do not use anything right now, it will depends on which which 5 axis post processor is okay for mach3. than I start to set up cam software
@@mertkars1463 There's quite a lot of choices, and a post processor is developed to work with the specific CAM software to the specific controller. Your CAD system is your choice, but all I have is a post for Solidworks with Camworks for Mach3
@@HandyDan can you please send me if it is possible ?
@@mertkars1463 email me message2dan@live.com
where should i take "0" on machine ??
It depends on where you programed the datum. But since this machine doesn't have Kinematics or TPCP or Dynamic work offsets. I use the A axis centerline for Z, and B axis center for the X,Y datum.
hi, i have rhe same cnc HY6040 from CNCZONE. but the problem is that the manual don't explain a lot of part like the panel on machine....
this is my first cnc and i never used mach3. i installed the program with 5 axis but when i connect the computer at cnc nothing is happening.
someone can hel me? thanks
Hello, did your machine come with the small blue display on the side?
Mine did and I didn't use it.
Also I needed to get a controller adapter UC100 USB to parallel
@@HandyDan no i don't have the small blue display. i have the other one that i see on your cnc and i don't know what it's for. but i have the usb port ! i think it's the latest
The display I have is just a 17" touch screen computer monitor that didn't come with the CNC mill.
If you have the newest model with USB then all you need to do is configure Mach3
Hello dan, i have one question. What type of materials. Can i machining with this machine?
I have had success with wood, plastic and aluminum. I do not think it can mill steel, aluminum is a match to what the machine is made of.
@@HandyDan thank dan. I manufacture injection plastic molds, and i want to make prototypes of molds. I want to machining steel 4140 and electrodes of copper and graphite
Do you think this machine works for me?
@@alejandrovilla4311 Ok are you going to be using an EDM to make the 4140 steel? This machine will definitely mill graphite, copper should not be a problem.
@@HandyDan
Hello Dan, you have the reason about that I have to used other process por example edm machine. Yesterday I went to see a machine of 5 axies, the machine is the same that your machine. I was talking with the seller and he said to the machine doesn't home position or zero machine, moreover this machine doesn't have the application enabled of work planes G54 to G59. Can you tell me if you machine has the same problems? Or if you made any ajustment.
Thanks for help me.
I'm sorry, if my english is bad.
@@alejandrovilla4311 my machine is not the best choice for 5 axis cnc but for the price I chose it.
The problem is it is basically a hobby machine and has no software support. I use Mach3 but it is a versatile solution but not specific enough to handle 5 axis simulations, you also need a post processor with kinematics. I am very close to having that ready but again this machine nor Mach3 will home the A and B axis.
Do a scissor method when tightening the collet. You are applying a lot of unnecessary forces the way you were doing it and could move things from alignment or bend things
Yes I agree, I usually do the scissor method to loosen, I'll be using it for both now, thank you 😊
Hi, have you to give me a 5 axis postprocessor? Thanks
Have you tried to make a post processor yourself? I have a video on it.
@@HandyDan I don’t saw it, can you show me the link?
@@ferdinandoterranova5190 th-cam.com/video/f97TNh3rfDE/w-d-xo.html
Hello . I have the same device and I have a problem that I can't solve. I use the Mach3 program with the 6th axis adjustment. and I can't control the B axis. Has anyone had a similar problem, I am looking for help everywhere
Not sure what you have found out, but what can you control? X,Y, Z?
A, not B? Have you tried C?
Do you have a parallel port or USB connection? There's a lot of possibilities. Do you have Mach3 settings turned on for B motor tuning? 🤔
@@HandyDan I admit that this is my first machine of this type in my life and I'm still learning. If there is any possibility, e-mail or wathapp will describe the whole thing to you with photos and videos. Regards
@@arturkoziel9246 email me message2dan@live.com
Can i take classes from you? Where do you live?
USA, Phoenix area
hi i would like to ask how do the tool change works in 5 axis?
This mill doesn't have a tool changer, so each tool change needs to be done manually and then Z touch off.
HY3040 .... which vendor in China 🇨🇳?
Ali I bought mine a few years ago straight from the manufacturer China CNC zone
www.chinacnczone.com/
Can I do any sort of Metal? aluminum, Brass bronze steel?
I have done aluminum and it cuts fine,very noisy though.🤯
Hi, how to make G code??? Name soft for make 5 axis engraving G code please
Do you have a CAD system? CAM program?
I use Solid Works and CAM Works.
I made my post processor with Cam Works UPG.
Fusion360 is free, Sprut cam, Bob cad and several others are available.
Yes i know rhinocam but i dont have post for 5 axis post for A B axis
Via upg i can make g code for rhinocam?? Or tell me universal soft for make postrprocessor for rhinocam???
@@levonyeganyan1922 I don't know Rhino cam, but if you are milling 2.5 axis, flat work, almost any software can post that G Code.
If you want 3 axis or 4 or5 simultaneously then you'll need a more powerful program and a specific post processor.
Check www.mecsoft.com
Nice!
Thanks, I'm working on a few more videos and hope to get some uploaded soon.
Hola Dan, thank you so much for the videos and your updates for this model.
I bought this machine and received it today. I wish I could talk to you, I have some doubts.
Marcio,
I can help you along, you can ask any questions here in the comments so they may help others.
If you want to email let me know.
@@HandyDan thank you for your response. Maybe we can start by email and after publish a complete review of my assemble, calibration and start with 5 axis? This is my mail zzzmutations@gmail.com. Ok for you?
@@zzzmutations I sent you an email, let me know if you received it.
Plz bro how this machine go with u.i want buy same.Plz advice me.Thank you
@@hamidhassa1178
As I mentioned to Marcio this machine is not a turn key ready to go 5 axis cnc. It requires a learning process, Mach3 to control it and you will need some software to generate the G Code any CAD CAM software will be fine, there are literally hundreds to choose from.
In all it works to mill wood, plastic and aluminum but aluminum is a slow noisy process. You can see in my other videos that I had to upgrade a lot to get it rigid.
I can help you along.
Gracias por compartir.
Alegre intermedio.
Does anyone sell dual axis trunnion table?
I don't know, I bet if you searched it you could find something.
Are you referring to the one I have?
China Zone CNC sells it. But you will also need the 5 axis CNC controller and motor drivers
please inform the program Cam and half of the galaxy would be happy if you post your post processor as it is written his code, it would be the guy, because the others are all selfish, regrettable that. thank you so much for everything
Thank you, I can help you with this. Let me know what type of software you are using and what CNC machine and controller
@@HandyDan
It is a pleasure to be able to talk to you, I wanted to use mach3, NXcam or Fusion 360 or MasterCam, which you indicate, except SprutCam, NX seems to be one of the best Cams, I am a person who has no money here in Brazil , electrician work on a textile, look at the link to my machine that I built myself th-cam.com/video/_qG8kWUWHJQ/w-d-xo.html
That is a very incredible machine you built! I see it running Mach3.
What CAD/CAM software do you have now?
@@HandyDan
I'm lost trying on Fusion with linuxCNC, and I really liked NXcam, but honestly what you indicate and I manage to download I learn to use, I am very dedicated and I love to learn, did you do the post processor of yours? which Cam do you use? I have several projects that I am finishing in sketchup if you want I can send by email without problems, you are helping me and in what I can help I am here
my email drausiohenrique@hotmail.com send me a hello so I can identify your email address
Well done sir
Thank you for watching, and let me know if you want me to make any other videos to help others.
@@HandyDan off course will be our pleasure to got more videos about 4axis 5 axis.
And sir post processor file for controller ,I mean 5axis post processor file,
There's so many different CAD/CAM programs and so many different CNC machines that a post processor is almost a one off.
There's not one fits all.
@@HandyDan I have fanuc controller, and can read (Fanuc 6m)or(Fanuc 15m) post processing files from autodesk powermill (cam software),but what about 4or5axis
Hahaha, you're really funny!! 😂😂😂
That was my first stop motion video. I'm glad it made you laugh! Thanks for watching.
Yeah, that really was my kind of humor... 😂 Keep bringing up this guy 😁 and your great content. Not sure if I really wanna get a 6040 but it definitely is interesting. 👍 Much appreciated!
Another funny video including him and a bear, did you see my CNC kinematic dance? I noticed how the stepper motors made humming sounds so I hand wrote G Code and made a dance.
I can still hear your voice, please increase music volume.
So you're saying you don't want to hear what I say? Just music 🎶
@@HandyDan sarcasm bro
I do have a low voice and I get your sarcasm. 🤣
Hello Dan
Where I would get a HY6040 postprocessor ( solidcam ) ?
Thanks you for your response .
Sorry for the late reply, post processor is more for the machine controller you are using, not specifically for the HY6040.
So if you are running the machine with Linux CNC, Mach3 or an Arduino the post may differ.
I use Mach3 and a basic Fanuc style post works good. SolidCAM has basic posts, let me know if you need help.
@@HandyDan Would you please send me an example of a 5 axis milling program? (Mach3 ) thanks
@@marekvisnovsky7969 Sure, I can send you the G Code file I used in this video.
Where can I send it?
@@HandyDan Sure, that would be great . my mail : logifriz@gmail.com
@@HandyDan Please can you give me the post file. I have a cnc excatly same as your machine. Please.... Please ........ Please........................does not matter solidcam or mastercam or both you have. atekinay1@hotmail.com I could not find it and I could not run my machine 5 axis?