Absolutely great work there. I knew it was a complex area but who knew there were all those tests etc. I take it that things that have been historically found safe are not repeat tested on animals as this is a hideous practice and nobody should be using brands that still test already safe chemicals on living creatures. People have to take some responsibility for what they use so that this doesnt continue happening until the end of time. If people were just educated a little on what products they use, practices such as animal testing can be left in the past.
When RawbeautyKristi did her collab with colorpop, there was a shade in the palette that was a pressed pigment, and I remember her videos being REALLY clear about it. Basically "these are all eyeshadows, but this one right here is a pressed pigment, not an eyeshadow. It might cause staining, it might cause irritation, it is not FDA approved for the eye. All these? Eyeshadows. This one? Use on your eye at your own risk. I'm gonna use it on my eye at my own risk, that's a choice I'm making". I know it's a safe pigment, I know colorpop puts a bunch of R&D time into making sure they're safe, and Kristi herself had made videos about exactly what "pressed pigments" are and why they exist before that collab, but I really appreciated the like...over the top transparency that went beyond what would be necessary to legally cover her arse.
It's truly only because the FDA is archaic asf though. Rest of the world doesn't need to disclaim their souls away about simple pressed pigments. Like...the true issue here is the FDA and how they're not only light-years behind on health and safety, but also horridly, historically corrupt.
I absolutely agree and remember that video of hers and thinking how great she did explaining and making sure we understood. Also I’ve used that color and it did not stain my eye, eye makeup remover took it right off. But I still respected the info she gave us. It’s not hard, Huda was shady af w this lol
@@g1ng3rsn4ps but can we talk about the fact that when you try to order vitamins from usa to uk it will get stopped at customs and you wont be able to get it because it is not approved here in Europe? A lot of colorants and ingredients used in product in the us are not safe in Europe. This is bizarre😂
@Cam I could not have said this better myself! Unfortunately, all of this is spot on. The FDA isn't here to protect people. In fact, it gas approved drugs that kill people on a routine basis. It is responsible for approving opioid drugs that have caused countless deaths and addiction.
I was in a really bad car accident and the first thing I did once I got the hospital was take pictures of my injuries as best I could. Even on pain meds I knew I needed picture proof of how bad I was injured to help get the point across in court when I went to sue the guy who caused the accident. Pictures are worth more than a thousand words.
@@peps1943 I didn’t take the pictures of the car accident. A witness asked me if I wanted them too and at the hospital a nurse saw me struggling to take pictures of my broken wrist so he helped with that part
Smart. Im so sorry people can be such shit drivers. Ive just started driving at 18 and in ONE night i had two cars not use their turn signal almost hit the front of my car (i slowed down when i saw them coming over thank god i pay attention) and one person we were side by side he tried to pull into my lane and he was so close he almost hit my mirror he looked over saw me and quickly turned back. After that he sped up so much over the speed limit and nearly hit other cars in front of me. Like wtf
I didn’t think of that when I took my foot injury pictures. But now that I’m going into legal discussions for my settlement they will definitely come in handy!
Rolondo probably had an allergic reaction, scratched it, got an infection like staph or strep which can cause an ulceration - a hole in the skin. The pigment story reminded me of that one girl who got full body stained pink by a Lush bath bomb.
Idk if it’s the same girl, but wasn’t it a bath oil that she used like a bath bomb? I remember at least one incident with the bath oil because I own the product and it’s meant to be used in small amounts and not all at once.
I used a lush bathbomb that didn’t dye my skin but it tinted my hair pink (I have platinum blonde hair). It washed out after 3-4 days so I loved it! But I couldn’t ever find that bath bomb ever again once I looked. I wanted to tint my hair again haha!
@@annalisanorman9013I worked at lush back in the day, the solid oils are really small, it was probably a melt which are bigger and meant to be broken into a lot of pieces. The melts are stronger in scent and pigment since you really are ment to use them in small pieces but still get a really nice relaxing bath with them. It’s like that girl on TikTok who used the massage bar in her shower… the one with like actual red beans in it, and she was like “I bought this lush soap and it ruined my shower. There’s plants growing out of my shower!” I just face palmed so hard because lush makes a big deal of having the employees explain the products as best as possible since they don’t have individual packaging, you can get a booklet with all the information for the products and also easily found online since the company is big about being green.
Colourpop always puts this disclaimer on their products that include pressed pigments and glitters. But theirs are very much visible, that being said their stuff has NEVER stained my skin, and im am the palest of the pale fair skin.
Not the case for the eye hole guy, but I just wanted to throw this out there regarding patch testing & allergies: it is absolutely possible to develop an allergy to a product you've been using for a while. My own little anecdote - I adore the Belif brand & used multiple products of theirs on a daily basis for years with great results. Last year, my skin took a sudden downturn: miserably tight, itchy skin with lots of pimples, constantly chapped & bleeding lips despite liberal lip balm usage, and an ever-worsening, flaking rash around the perimeter of my face. Since nothing had changed in my skincare routine/life in general, I was tearing my hair out trying to determine the cause. After a lot of misery & my face reaching a level of severity where I was in constant pain just speaking & emoting, and it was difficult to even leave my house, I finally found out that it was my beloved Belif products that were the cause. Apparently most/all of Belif products contain added fragrances (limonene, geraniol, linalool) that oxidize when exposed to air, and the resultant oxidized compounds can be sensitizing/allergenic. My guess is that, with the onset of the pandemic, since I was wearing makeup/leaving the house/applying certain products from my routine less frequently, they had more time to oxidize once opened (despite still being well-within their expiration periods), triggering a fun new allergy. I've since switched to a completely fragrance-free routine that's been serving me well. Basically, while patch testing is absolutely a good idea, still be aware that an allergy can rear its ugly head after long-term use. Beware potentially sensitizing & allergenic ingredients!
I agree totally! I recently purchased the Belif Aqua Bomb Poolside Hydration starter kit, because I've always heard such great things about this line. Unfortunately, my skin did not like it at all. So I read the ingredients and saw the added fragrances that you mentioned as well as denatured alcohol. Upon researching these ingredients further, I learned about the oxidizing component of the fragrances which can cause allergies. Also, denatured alcohol strips the natural oils from your skin, disrupting the skin barrier. This not only means more moisture can escape (AKA your skin will be dryer), but also that more irritants can permeate, increasing the likelihood of redness and sensitivity. I'm usually really vigilant about reading ingredient lists and doing research before purchasing and using products, but I admit that I got sucked in by all the glowing recommendations and marketing, and just assumed that since it was Korean, it had to be good, lol. Definitely a big take away for me is to do your own research and listen to your skin, regardless of how long you've used a product, or what anyone else may be saying or doing.
I can’t use any Belif products because they are so irritating. I recently started using a product from Laneige called Cream Skin toner and moisturizer. It’s fragrance free and I looove it.
@@nikki271 I'm still looking for a good fragrance free toner and moisturizer. I will definitely try the Laneige line. Thanks so much for the recommendation!
@@rhema5998 I’ve tried another product from Laneige before and had a horrible reaction, but I think the new Cream Skin products are all fragrance free and hypoallergenic. I think I may order the mist too during a sale!
As a safety assessor for personal care products and toxicologists, I can say most products on the market, especially from big brands are going to have safety assessment reports for the formulas so the product matches the regulations and the company will be protected when it's taken to court. also, a lot of smaller brands don't do this safety assessment and that can result in lengthy court battles, big brands won't fa'' for this and the safety reports of the products are always prepared to be presented in court and the company will be okay. companies can not create a 100% safe and 0% allergy because it is not the fault of the ingredients but actually your immune system and how unique it is.
@@cniknik9863 thank you, i am trying to explain this all the time on my channel but people say oh you sided with the companies too much or i am Getting paid, but that's the truth most of the time it's your unique skin response not the product
@@cniknik9863 Seriously tho. I know people in real life with the weirdest allergies, and the solution is not lawsuits- it's being aware and vigilant about managing your allergies, and reacting quickly to anything out of the ordinary. IDK about anyone else but if I get a rash, especially on my face, I'm gonna start trying to narrow down what's been on my face recently that could be causing a reaction.
This!! 100% THIS!! My degree is in Human Science & we've definitely covered topics like this...& because of my studies in this subject, i can concur that u are RIGHT. Thank u for writing this!
I'm a court employee and as soon as you said there were no exhibits (statements from a doctor/dermatologist, photographs of the damage, etc) I knew where it was going 😅 I will be shocked if the judgment is made in favor of the plaintiff.
Lol I think that's why he only asked for damages in the amount of 500k and his attorney was banking that it would settle. I was anticipating it would be higher if the claim was actually more legit
@@missalicesmiles yeah but I can't believe any attorney thinks they'll actually get anything from this... unless I'm missing something and maybe some documents are sealed but just based off what James is saying, it sounds like there's literally no proof at all. It just seems silly lol
@@missalicesmiles with a case like this, they absolutely could file a motion to dismiss but most judges will require a hearing regardless just ime. I probably wouldn't even bother. I'll be interested to see what the outcome is, if it's not sealed.
thank you for saying it can cause "irritation and staining" because literally no one knows these can irritate your eyes. we've seen videos where people had reactions to using these shades and then freak out like there's something awful in the product. there actually used to be information about it on the FDA's website under cosmetic ingredients but i haven't been able to find it again.
The thing I've learned about make up and skin care is there is always a chance for a reaction. It really comes down to the person, the medication in their system, body chemistry, and other issues. If something reacts bad, take it off and don't use it again.
Was the Huda Beauty palette sold in stores? Cause how where you supposed to remove the sticker in store before buying to know that you couldn't use the palette for what you intended? I can't imagine the store would have been too happy if you take the packaging apart. The whole way they went about this is insane and it's so odd to me that they might get away with a court paper that says they did nothing wrong. Shouldn't the FDA make it clear to beauty brands that this behavior is unacceptable? Also personally if I know a product has ingredients that are not approved for use on the eye area (in my own or another country) I probably wouldn't use it. I don't care who's right, I just rather not take that risk. There are so many perfectly fine alternatives.
The reason it’s considered not safe for the eye area in the US is just because of staining. That’s it. I think the best option is for the FDA to get with the times and stop unnecessarily worrying consumers about minor, very temporary staining. Sure, for legal reasons Huda should have made the “not intended for use in the immediate eye area” more prominent, but she shouldn’t have to put it on the palette in the first place. These pigments are safe, and the EU recognizes that. We should too.
@@MsCarterElise I live in the EU and if my eyes would be stained for days and I wasn't informed that could happen I wouldn't be happy with that brand. Just because you can technically use it doesn't mean you should do that to your customers. Also weather you agree with the law or not doesn't make it ok to circumvent a country's law by promoting the product to be used on the eyes and then put a sticker under another sticker in a way that almost no one will ever find it saying actually don't use it on the eyes. Consumers shouldn't be ok with something like this and regulators should protect their consumers from such practices.
@@Eeveelyn I guess I just think “may cause staining” is less alarmist than “not intended for the immediate eye area” because unlike glitter, for example, we know these pigments are safe. That’s my issue. Was what Huda did shady? Absolutely. But staining isn’t dangerous, and it isn’t the end of the world. It is at most inconvenient, and the possibility of staining should be made clear to consumers. But by requiring companies to put “not intended for the immediate eye area” on a product that definitely can be put on the eyelid safely, it puts companies in a very strange position. Additionally, many of these pigments that stain do so because they are vegan and made without carmine. I personally am much more bothered by the prospect of putting crushed up bugs on my eyelids than I am something that might stain. We should be encouraging this easy switches away from carmine, not unnecessarily frightening consumers. I’m all for strenuous regulation of all consumer goods. I just think this is a place where the FDA has not kept up with the times.
The only thing Huda did wrong in my opinion, was not state clearly it was a pressed pigment palette. As for the promotional videos, photos and articles, so many other brands use pressed pigment palettes on the eyes, so I don’t see the problem there. Unless we can sue them as well 🤨
I actually found Peter Thomas Roth through Lovely Skin (a company my mom gets all her skincare from) and I LOVE the pumpkin enzyme scrub, my skin is dry and sensitive and it’s a beautiful combination of chemical and physical exfoliation that I love
I really like these videos of yours. i hope you continue to do them... no matter who may be in the wrong the supplier or the consumer. This video stressed the importance of making sure you are not allergic to something. but I do find them really interesting. maybe you can even go over really old cases maybe even from the 70's 80's or 90's. that might be really interesting to go over, and most likely those cases would be closed. To see if any of them changed ingredients used or help pave the way to the safety standards we have today.
Hooo boy, this is why it's so important to research ingredients so you know how they interact, how they're used, and how they can affect the skin, as well as patch testing. Reactions are so individual that it really does fall to the consumer to be aware and be informed. I can honestly believe a product would "burn" a hole in someone's face. I have an extreme allergy to adhesives that increases in intensity with stronger adhesives, and it actually causes tissue breakdown and I end up with massive open sores. So I can honestly believe this happened to this poor guy, but as the chemist said, a patch would've helped him to see the effects. I honestly steer clear of fragrances and natural extracts, as they are known to be irritating to some people, especially those with sensitive skin.
My skin reacts to niacinamide, but not always: it depends on % and formulation. And I read that many people have this reaction to it. The problem is that not all products have % stated on the packaging and niacinamide is in everything these days. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in toilet paper soon. Since it's a known irritant, I wish all producers were obligated to state the percentage on the packaging.
This would make life so much easier for me. I'm allergic to some of the most common ingredients in skin care that are "all natural" but coconut won't cause major reactions if it's in a very small amount. So if it's the third ingredient, I usually can't buy it. Problem is... If it was a drop and everything behind it is also in such tiny amounts, I could probably tolerate it. "Probably".
I wonder if he got a staph infection. He developed an irritation. If he scratched or caused any small abrasion on his face hello bacteria. Staph lives all over our bodies and it can eat away at the skin causing holes to develop. I don't know the circumstances but it sounds like he should have consulted a doctor/dermatologist.
@@SandraMorris51 yeah I had to work slowly using that. I don’t use retinol around my eyes so when I first got it, I used once a week and worked my way up!
Although I loved BH Cosmetics most of their palettes are considered pressed pigment palettes so I always patch test and use an eyeshadow base that is tinted to act as a layer to protect my eyes. The formula is amazing but staining is probable if you don’t test and prep. And yet I’ve never heard of anything negative about their formula - now that Makeup Revolution bought the brand I’m curious if they’ll keep the same manufacturers so that they continue to use the pressed pigment formulas for their palettes.
I disagree about patch testing because I have suffered all week with a swollen eyelid from using a serum for my face on my eyelid that I have used for years on my face. The skin of your eyelid can be allergic but not your face or arm.
@@malikagirl yes absolutely and there are known eyelid irritants and companies are putting them in products anyway. My eyelids have been destroyed by terribly made moisturizers, serums, cleansers, sunscreen and eyeshadows. I don’t think not patch testing should be an Ace in the hole of every skincare company. My face can’t take lots of things my body can.
i think the big difference between this and other pallets is now if they have pressed pigments those are listed on the back with stuff like 'may stain and not intended for eye area' so it's not misleading
Having problems with Beauty Bay too, but I ordered just some candles so I will just wait and hope they will arrive to me... eventually. The pandemic taught me to be much more patient about shopping online, that's for sure 0.o
This happened to me with the Violet Voss Sweet Violet palette and I never understood why it stained my poor little eye lids 🫠 Thank you for showing me the light 💜 😅
There's a lot of eyeshadow palettes that indicate that certain shades should not be used in the eye area or immediate eye area... ColourPop for one has many palettes that state this, along with ABH Norvina palettes, and even Morphe to name a few that I know of.
....I've been a make up artist (and hair stylist as primary) for 16 years and never really knew the difference between pressed pallets that are set up just like eye shadow products... I feel so lied to but also feel better about the fact that I typically use those pressed pigment pallets for lips more than eye shadows. I'm surprised James is doing this story instead of Robert. Wonderful job James! 👏 💜🖤💜
It's interesting how information regarding pink and red eyeshadows has changed over just the last 5 years. Red eyeshadows used to never be produced except in the UK because the pigments used were known to stain the skin and were more frequent to causing irritation. I feel like it was talked about a lot back then? It's all but been brushed over now since more companies in the US have been able to produce hyper pinks and reds under the "pressed pigment" title. I, for one, have been elated since with all the new reds that companies are releasing HOWEVER I also acknowledge that the colors are going to stain, every single time, and it's gonna look worse on my very pink cool toned skin lol.
A couple years ago, I bought Say Yes to Grapefruit face wipes because Say Yes To is cruelty free and I had used some of their other face wipes and had no issues. The grapefruit line was new and marketed for acne and oily skin, so I thought it would work or my combination skin. Well, it turns out they gave me a chemical burn in the corner of one of my eyes. I stopped using them once I started getting irritation and discomfort and it was lucky because I had been using them to remove makeup and I know it could've gotten in my eyes. Stories like this one scare me because it can take one use to cause serious damage.
I have never and won't ever buy anything Huda. The brand and its namesake turn me off. It just feeeeels like a scam money grab. I can't explain it. I've always been skeptical.
I trued their iconic concealer.. Maybe it'll work for someone who oozes sebum from every pore.. Lord, you would have to look long and hard to find fmsonething worse at dollar tree!
Patch tests might not work for everyone to be honest. I'm allergic to the adhesive on bandaids, but only on certain areas of my body. If I have one on my fingers / hands or arms, I'm fine, but anywhere else, and it becomes inflamed, puffy and extremely itchy because the skin begins to peel off. It's strange. I haven't needed to put a bandaid on my face, but there's a good chance that I would have a reaction from it there when I wouldn't have on my arms or wrists
I have something similar, with certain bandaids or adhesives. I got two tattoos recently, one near my collarbone and got a perfect red rash from the second skin but nothing for the one on my leg near my ankle 🤷♀️
I've never used a skincare product that was dangerous to me before fortunately. For me, I usually get Korean products due to their quality and I would go to discount stores to get them for cheaper prices since they're exports so they're pricey. I haven't gotten an eye cream yet and instead got an eye serum which has retinol and it works wonders. It's made by a Korean brand called Azure. I used to have dry eyelids earlier this year and it wasn't until I got that eye serum that they became smooth again. Before, I used Ponds moisturizers but since they're not made for eye skin, it would accidentally get into my eyes and I would tear up. Off-topic: I love your Sailor Moon Luna LED light and Mimikyu plush!
have been casually watching your videos and then you mentioned being a kpop fan during your university days and stayc and it was then i knew i had to stay
My own dermatologist told me myself I'm better off staying away from expensive skin care. He literally made a shopping list with 5 things. Everything was under $25.
I don't have problems with the green one. But I avoid putting the shimmers too close because when they get inside the eye it's hurts a bit. But when used correctly it's fine. Not the best but usable
I have eczema, severe eczema that covers most of my body. I am so careful with products. I have to do patch tests for 7 days for me to be fully careful with a product
Jamesssss! I ☠️ when you said you laugh when you get nervous. I do this same thing! I remember being about 10 or 11 at my Grandparent's for Christmas. The kids (my cousins and me) were playing games in the dining room when suddenly my great grandpa fell backwards from his recliner. I could hardly contain my laughter, but I laugh when I feel tension or I'm nervous. I swear I got evil looks from everyone! 30 years later, I'm still the same..... just not as bad.
I’m always so careful with buying pallets now because back when I was super into Urban Decay I bought a pallet that I wanted to use for eyeshadow only to read the package when I got home and find out that half were pressed pigments not recommended for use around the eyes. That basically made me nope out of keeping it and I returned it the next day. Granted, most of the pigments would’ve probably been safe but since I love doing really detailed eye looks and wanted it primarily for eye looks I wasn’t about to risk it!
Hi James and James' fans. I"m a professional makeup artist and skincare specialist. I have degrees in both Art and Chemistry, so this was a really interesting video to me. Peter Thomas Roth (PTR) is one of my favorite skincare brands. Having helped people with skincare and makeup for 25 years now, I have to say there is something that has been left out here. PTR has a range of highly effective and safe skincare products and many of them are specifically designed to address skin problems. It is VERY important that you seek the advice of someone THOROUGHLY trained in the brand. Cocktailing products on your own can lead to (you guessed it) irritation. I can remember having a client that wanted to use a 10% Glycolic face wash with a 10% AHA/BHA acid toner, dermatologist prescribed retinol, with a resurfacing serum, and a Niacinamide moisturizer and it wasn't clear if they were going to wear any sunscreen. THIS IS TOO MUCH EXFOLIATION and leaves the skin vulnerable to sun damage. Who knows if they were using a washcloth on their face and eye area (introducing the ingredients from their favorite laundry detergent and fabric softener to their skin care concoction). After coming back to visit me after me strongly suggested them not follow this routine, they were clearly chemically burned, but guess what? They loved the results. Despite having huge red patches on their cheeks with clearly visible inflamed blood vessels. Even after explaining they were chemically inducing rosacea-- no disuading. So I guess my point is, we don't know what this client was using in combination with the PTR laser focus eye cream and what preventative measures he was and was not including in his routine since a patch test was obviously too much to expect of him. HIGHLY dubious. As for HUDA Beauty, well they have been shady from the start. From homophobic comments to clearly copying other brands products and marketing campaigns, and now hiding the pressed pigment disclamer. This isn't shocking. Throwing your money at a brand this toxic (in attitude) and then being shocked when they weren't 100% honest, is well.... hmmmm. Yes, I know, some times reputations aren't deserved, but this has pretty much been documented through the years, and I personally think the shady/dodgey reputation was well earned.
About a year ago I noticed that almost all of the pallets that I was receiving in probably 7 beauty subscriptions that I was receiving many of the colors. If you look on the back, they were made in China, and it says like do not use in the Eye area, and it would name off like 6 of the Colors at 12 color pallet type thing. Literally, every single pallet from China said. Do not use on the Eye area even though they were Eye shadow pallets I'm disgusted with what china gets away with. And they also been putting lead in the plastic kids toys, they sell the dollar store for the last 50 years, so there's that.
Every time a palette with a bright red or pink there is someone who cries about staining 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ i think by now learned that these colours as well as purples and browns leaning to the red side of the colour wheel can and most likely will stain your eyes. Having said that, I do agree though it’s not very hard to add a few words to warn people about this possibility as well as the possibility for these pigments to irritate your eye/skin. Also i believe ( i might be wrong ) Huda Beauty HQ and production is in Dubai and not in US which why they usually get away with bs like this, at least to a point.
wasn't huda beauty also accused of stealing ideas from beauty bakerie, a black-female-owned indie business, and also copying what they've done to profit off of it? there's something definitely a little fishy about the brand and the fact that they LITERALLY made a whole, separate, COVERED layer on the packaging to HIDE ONE SENTENCE about the dangers of using it around the eyes... would've been much easier to just include that one single sentence on the main packaging or on the website or product advertisements both pre-launch and after it came onto the market.. just really weird. they definitely did the MOST to evade the law and sell it as something that frankly it's not.
Wow! I had a bad allergic reaction years ago from a glittery eyeshadow pallete from Younique. My eyes swole up to the point I couldn't see & had to go to an eye doctor to get drops & antibiotics. I wrote to Younique & they re sent me the same pallete as a sorry! Lol. Xx
With regard to the product that burned a hole in the skin it sounds like he woke up one day and decided he needed money. I would have loved to go through that case file. I was a legal assistant in both The Bronx and NYC and cases like this came in all of the time - there is something called comparative negligence - like how the person contributed to the problem themselves - he expects to win a law suit with no evidence - no photos or more importantly no medical records demonstrating how this affected him. I mean anyone could say anything right? The Court doesn’t just award money based on claims that can’t be backed up so he shouldn’t hold his breath
I was sitting here thinking "how did this happen?" about the eye burning man...and my initial assessment seems to be right. He didn't do his due diligence and do a patch test. I have a huge stash of products and they ALL recommend patch tests, especially the eye creams and face masks. And sometimes they just interact with additional products differently. I've been going through my stash and using products to see what works for me and using up stuff I don't like as much. One eye serum, made by High Beauty, which I've normally never had a bad reaction to, reacted weird to one serum I was using. It left a slight tingly sensation and I immediately washed it off and used another eye cream out of my mug of eye products. Why keep using it if you have a reaction, no matter how initially mild?! I have some products that state that there might be a slight tingling sensation, so I'll keep an eye out for that, but otherwise...if you're not expecing it, it's not normal and you shouldn't continue use. There's warnings on these products for a reason. I have a travel size trio of masks from Bad Habit and the detox mask, which very good, also leaves a tingling sensation. The first time, it was BAD. But I was using too much. So, I tried it a second time and used a lot less and it was fine. No irritation at all. It's like when people get upset that a peel burned their face and then state they left it on for longer than the stated time. The one by The Ordinary is a good example. It says to leave on for up to 10 mins, but not a minute longer. I don't risk it and leave it on for 8 minutes lol. Also, good eye creams don't need to cost a lot. Cosrx is affordable (I don't know if snail mucin is cruelty free, but I use their blackhead and whitehead essences and they're lovely!) and I use the CBD cream by Elf and it's good. I think I paid $8 for it. Andalou Naturals has a CBD line and the eye cream is really great. Also affordable. I have 2 moisturizers, a mask, and an eye cream from PTR that I got on sale on their website and all are wonderful products. Wouldn't pay full price, but they're fantastic. I think they're worth the price, but it makes me gulp seeing the price tags lol. Great, informative vieo as always, James!
Jess Aarons I struggle with eye creams. In addition I am older. I used to use clinique when I was younger but still struggling. I have given away so many eye creams & make up.
Funny enough we have an eyewash station in my garage . My husband is a climber ( arborist ) and he gets saw dust and crap in his eyes daily . He uses it everyday when he comes home .
I used one of Peter Thomas Roth under eye products and my skin reacted...badly. Puffiness, irritation and redness. I've never used any of his products since.They don't like me.
I’m like this with the brand REN. A housemate of mine had a bad reaction almost 9 years ago now lol but I can still never touch their products because it ruined her skin so bad!
I do nails, I applied a high quality primer without patch testing. I was highly allergic to it. My fingers looked like they sat in open flames. I know thousands of people who can use it without any reactions. Everyone is different, just because I'm allergic doesn't mean it's a bad product.
haha! You two make my day! Love your artists impression of the "hole in the eye"! I find it strange that anyone who had a hole appear anywhere, didnt run screaming to his GP and definately take some photos just in case! I mean who, in this day and age, doesnt take selfies of anything like that. Even me, who is ancient and not very computer savvy would take photos of a reaction like that, just to make sure my doctor sees it in every way, sometimes things wax and wane and you would want to be sure the GP saw it at best and at worst. Maybe of course it affected him so much, he actually became she??
I’m suspected of a connective tissue disorder and have ridiculously saggy eyelid skin. I’m talking 10 folds rather than 1 or two. I could use this cream before applying eyeshadow
With the PTR one I wonder if the packaging recommends a patch test as I have seen many that say it literally on the bottle or the box. If they dont they should. People should know to do that especially when it comes to the face but if its not on the package I dont know if a court would agree its standard common sense to do so
I still thin his account of what happened seems iffy. But if it were 2 dozen people coming forward with similar claims then I would consider it credible
Ngl, there were a few products I reacted to and still continued to use them, because I payed a certain amount of money or "maybe my skin just have to get used to it". Olay retinol cream and the red one for example. Those were hyped up everywhere and they aren't cheap. My skin hates these creams. Of course I stoppwd using them after like 5 days. But I would never be like "oh, my skin reacted badly, why not sue the company?", I would be waaay to ashamed to admit that I kept on using the cream😂 *the eyeshadow one is stupid...I tried sooo many eyeshadows and yes, especially with reds you always have to consider that it might stain when using. It is weird that Huda hid the disclaimer like this, but I still think it's stupid...in my rightful opinion. And same with other products, everything can cause allergic reaction, even eyeshadows. I think it's more problematic how much glitter stuff, that isn't meant for the eyes, is sold with picture of eyelooks with that glitter. If it's no cosmetic glitter, it can damage your eyes badly.
So, the Huda Beauty controversy is genuinely just a re-hashing of the Urban Decay "Electric" palette controversy. They had also included pressed pigments (which are almost always red-based colours) and people complained about staining. The tricky thing is that people can have reactions like rashes and irritation to red pigments in approved eyeshadows (like red purples and red browns) It's just a sensitivity. I don't love how shady Huda was about the usage but I'm not surprised that some people used the pigments like she did and had a reaction, when she didn't. She's in the wrong for the marketing but the palette itself doesn't contain ingredients that would cause a severe reaction in every person.
I also have the electric palette and I saw that the red stained my eyes for days 😭😭 the green one too, but I had no allergic reaction and I always thought it’s like with lip stains.. when you pack them on they last almost 2 days. I don’t know why people seem to have a problem with staining especially when the colour pay off is so vibrant
Urban decay also had a neon palette at some point. I thought it was super weird that 2 colors were not meant for eyes, but they were very clear about it at least.
I have the neon obsessions palette in orange and use them regularly on my eyes. I think dark pinks usually stain skin anyway so I'm not bothered. Funny enough i recently recorded a list by colour of all my eyeshadows and thought it weird they didn't name any of the colours like the rest of the eyeshadow palettes. Now I know lmao
I freaking love this series. Also I'm glad you mentioned your eyes because I was sitting here the whole time thinking "his eyes look different, is he wearing contacts?" 😅
As someone in health and has a hobby for beauty products; I think he pay attention to his skin well enough leaving the bumps alone, continuing the product, and likely got the skin dirty or bacterial infected from a scratch that caused the wound. I have very sensitive skin so adhesives and many skin care products do not react well with me and i have to test new products & pay close attention to any reaction. I feel like that’s just common sense if anyone wants to experiment with beauty products-acknowledge beforehand that all skin is different, many tests are done to make sure these products aren’t toxic, and that you need to learn your skin first to know how it reacts.
I have been binging on your videos so much that I just noticed this is brand new !!!! And yes , I nodded when you asked if you were crazy for putting on your lids a known irritant ! 😆 We love your skin. Don’t mess it up ! ❤️ kisses
I own those huda palettes the green and pink one And I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve used them near my waterline maaaany times, not even have had problems with staining or anything 😳 was I lucky? Or my palettes weren’t crap? Idk
I had a Jeffree Star pallet, it was the green one. I loved it so much because I have flecks of green in my eyes and those colors made my eyes really stand out. But. After applying the eyeshadow my eyes always got more watery than normal. I checked the back of the packaging and there it was, a warning: INGREDIENT: POISON IVY. DO NOT USE AROUND THE EYES. ... on an eyeshadow pallet. Goddamnit :')
WOOHOO! Loved working with you on this James! Great video as always ❤️❤️
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on this! There was so much information 😂💜
Thank you for working with James on these videos!! Your input makes this so so much better!
We love a chemist we do! Xx
My goodness, girl! You are so smart! I’m just in awe of you! This sounds so stupid but I’m so proud of you lol! I LOVE to see women killing it! 💕
Absolutely great work there. I knew it was a complex area but who knew there were all those tests etc. I take it that things that have been historically found safe are not repeat tested on animals as this is a hideous practice and nobody should be using brands that still test already safe chemicals on living creatures. People have to take some responsibility for what they use so that this doesnt continue happening until the end of time. If people were just educated a little on what products they use, practices such as animal testing can be left in the past.
When RawbeautyKristi did her collab with colorpop, there was a shade in the palette that was a pressed pigment, and I remember her videos being REALLY clear about it. Basically "these are all eyeshadows, but this one right here is a pressed pigment, not an eyeshadow. It might cause staining, it might cause irritation, it is not FDA approved for the eye. All these? Eyeshadows. This one? Use on your eye at your own risk. I'm gonna use it on my eye at my own risk, that's a choice I'm making".
I know it's a safe pigment, I know colorpop puts a bunch of R&D time into making sure they're safe, and Kristi herself had made videos about exactly what "pressed pigments" are and why they exist before that collab, but I really appreciated the like...over the top transparency that went beyond what would be necessary to legally cover her arse.
It's truly only because the FDA is archaic asf though. Rest of the world doesn't need to disclaim their souls away about simple pressed pigments. Like...the true issue here is the FDA and how they're not only light-years behind on health and safety, but also horridly, historically corrupt.
I absolutely agree and remember that video of hers and thinking how great she did explaining and making sure we understood. Also I’ve used that color and it did not stain my eye, eye makeup remover took it right off. But I still respected the info she gave us. It’s not hard, Huda was shady af w this lol
@@g1ng3rsn4ps but can we talk about the fact that when you try to order vitamins from usa to uk it will get stopped at customs and you wont be able to get it because it is not approved here in Europe? A lot of colorants and ingredients used in product in the us are not safe in Europe. This is bizarre😂
@Cam I could not have said this better myself! Unfortunately, all of this is spot on. The FDA isn't here to protect people. In fact, it gas approved drugs that kill people on a routine basis. It is responsible for approving opioid drugs that have caused countless deaths and addiction.
Sure, but then why is it in an eyeshadow pallet?? Lol
It shouldn't be included in anything with that label.
I was in a really bad car accident and the first thing I did once I got the hospital was take pictures of my injuries as best I could. Even on pain meds I knew I needed picture proof of how bad I was injured to help get the point across in court when I went to sue the guy who caused the accident. Pictures are worth more than a thousand words.
@@peps1943 I didn’t take the pictures of the car accident. A witness asked me if I wanted them too and at the hospital a nurse saw me struggling to take pictures of my broken wrist so he helped with that part
Omg take good care of yourself
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Smart. Im so sorry people can be such shit drivers. Ive just started driving at 18 and in ONE night i had two cars not use their turn signal almost hit the front of my car (i slowed down when i saw them coming over thank god i pay attention) and one person we were side by side he tried to pull into my lane and he was so close he almost hit my mirror he looked over saw me and quickly turned back. After that he sped up so much over the speed limit and nearly hit other cars in front of me. Like wtf
I didn’t think of that when I took my foot injury pictures. But now that I’m going into legal discussions for my settlement they will definitely come in handy!
Rolondo probably had an allergic reaction, scratched it, got an infection like staph or strep which can cause an ulceration - a hole in the skin. The pigment story reminded me of that one girl who got full body stained pink by a Lush bath bomb.
Ah yes I wish I wouldve known about the bath bombs beforehand....i went to the pool looking like Pink Panther lol
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Idk if it’s the same girl, but wasn’t it a bath oil that she used like a bath bomb? I remember at least one incident with the bath oil because I own the product and it’s meant to be used in small amounts and not all at once.
I used a lush bathbomb that didn’t dye my skin but it tinted my hair pink (I have platinum blonde hair). It washed out after 3-4 days so I loved it! But I couldn’t ever find that bath bomb ever again once I looked. I wanted to tint my hair again haha!
@@annalisanorman9013I worked at lush back in the day, the solid oils are really small, it was probably a melt which are bigger and meant to be broken into a lot of pieces. The melts are stronger in scent and pigment since you really are ment to use them in small pieces but still get a really nice relaxing bath with them. It’s like that girl on TikTok who used the massage bar in her shower… the one with like actual red beans in it, and she was like “I bought this lush soap and it ruined my shower. There’s plants growing out of my shower!” I just face palmed so hard because lush makes a big deal of having the employees explain the products as best as possible since they don’t have individual packaging, you can get a booklet with all the information for the products and also easily found online since the company is big about being green.
Colourpop always puts this disclaimer on their products that include pressed pigments and glitters. But theirs are very much visible, that being said their stuff has NEVER stained my skin, and im am the palest of the pale fair skin.
Not the case for the eye hole guy, but I just wanted to throw this out there regarding patch testing & allergies: it is absolutely possible to develop an allergy to a product you've been using for a while. My own little anecdote - I adore the Belif brand & used multiple products of theirs on a daily basis for years with great results. Last year, my skin took a sudden downturn: miserably tight, itchy skin with lots of pimples, constantly chapped & bleeding lips despite liberal lip balm usage, and an ever-worsening, flaking rash around the perimeter of my face. Since nothing had changed in my skincare routine/life in general, I was tearing my hair out trying to determine the cause. After a lot of misery & my face reaching a level of severity where I was in constant pain just speaking & emoting, and it was difficult to even leave my house, I finally found out that it was my beloved Belif products that were the cause. Apparently most/all of Belif products contain added fragrances (limonene, geraniol, linalool) that oxidize when exposed to air, and the resultant oxidized compounds can be sensitizing/allergenic. My guess is that, with the onset of the pandemic, since I was wearing makeup/leaving the house/applying certain products from my routine less frequently, they had more time to oxidize once opened (despite still being well-within their expiration periods), triggering a fun new allergy. I've since switched to a completely fragrance-free routine that's been serving me well. Basically, while patch testing is absolutely a good idea, still be aware that an allergy can rear its ugly head after long-term use. Beware potentially sensitizing & allergenic ingredients!
I agree totally! I recently purchased the Belif Aqua Bomb Poolside Hydration starter kit, because I've always heard such great things about this line. Unfortunately, my skin did not like it at all. So I read the ingredients and saw the added fragrances that you mentioned as well as denatured alcohol. Upon researching these ingredients further, I learned about the oxidizing component of the fragrances which can cause allergies. Also, denatured alcohol strips the natural oils from your skin, disrupting the skin barrier. This not only means more moisture can escape (AKA your skin will be dryer), but also that more irritants can permeate, increasing the likelihood of redness and sensitivity.
I'm usually really vigilant about reading ingredient lists and doing research before purchasing and using products, but I admit that I got sucked in by all the glowing recommendations and marketing, and just assumed that since it was Korean, it had to be good, lol. Definitely a big take away for me is to do your own research and listen to your skin, regardless of how long you've used a product, or what anyone else may be saying or doing.
I can’t use any Belif products because they are so irritating. I recently started using a product from Laneige called Cream Skin toner and moisturizer. It’s fragrance free and I looove it.
@@nikki271 I'm still looking for a good fragrance free toner and moisturizer. I will definitely try the Laneige line. Thanks so much for the recommendation!
@@rhema5998 I’ve tried another product from Laneige before and had a horrible reaction, but I think the new Cream Skin products are all fragrance free and hypoallergenic. I think I may order the mist too during a sale!
Also, if you have eye eczema, patch testing on your wrist will not work
As a safety assessor for personal care products and toxicologists, I can say most products on the market, especially from big brands are going to have safety assessment reports for the formulas so the product matches the regulations and the company will be protected when it's taken to court.
also, a lot of smaller brands don't do this safety assessment and that can result in lengthy court battles, big brands won't fa'' for this and the safety reports of the products are always prepared to be presented in court and the company will be okay.
companies can not create a 100% safe and 0% allergy because it is not the fault of the ingredients but actually your immune system and how unique it is.
Why doesn't this have more likes?!?! Sometimes it's not the product, it's your skin.
@@cniknik9863 thank you, i am trying to explain this all the time on my channel but people say oh you sided with the companies too much or i am Getting paid, but that's the truth most of the time it's your unique skin response not the product
@@cniknik9863 Seriously tho. I know people in real life with the weirdest allergies, and the solution is not lawsuits- it's being aware and vigilant about managing your allergies, and reacting quickly to anything out of the ordinary. IDK about anyone else but if I get a rash, especially on my face, I'm gonna start trying to narrow down what's been on my face recently that could be causing a reaction.
This!! 100% THIS!!
My degree is in Human Science & we've definitely covered topics like this...& because of my studies in this subject, i can concur that u are RIGHT.
Thank u for writing this!
I'm a court employee and as soon as you said there were no exhibits (statements from a doctor/dermatologist, photographs of the damage, etc) I knew where it was going 😅 I will be shocked if the judgment is made in favor of the plaintiff.
Lol I think that's why he only asked for damages in the amount of 500k and his attorney was banking that it would settle. I was anticipating it would be higher if the claim was actually more legit
@@missalicesmiles yeah but I can't believe any attorney thinks they'll actually get anything from this... unless I'm missing something and maybe some documents are sealed but just based off what James is saying, it sounds like there's literally no proof at all. It just seems silly lol
@@sadezem991 I'm sure there was more. Otherwise, the defense could have filled a motion to dismiss or msj
@@missalicesmiles with a case like this, they absolutely could file a motion to dismiss but most judges will require a hearing regardless just ime. I probably wouldn't even bother. I'll be interested to see what the outcome is, if it's not sealed.
the barely-noticeable peel-off sticker and the “mm but don’t” absolutely killed me - and on this, the non-makeup artist twin’s channel 😂
thank you for saying it can cause "irritation and staining" because literally no one knows these can irritate your eyes. we've seen videos where people had reactions to using these shades and then freak out like there's something awful in the product. there actually used to be information about it on the FDA's website under cosmetic ingredients but i haven't been able to find it again.
never mind i commented too soon lol you addressed the reactions
That eye look is edgy, editorial, and avant garde. Someone tell Robert that James is coming for his crown!! 🖤💜
Apparently, when they made this bottle, PTR left out the “free” and just made Laser Eye Serum.
The thing I've learned about make up and skin care is there is always a chance for a reaction. It really comes down to the person, the medication in their system, body chemistry, and other issues. If something reacts bad, take it off and don't use it again.
Was the Huda Beauty palette sold in stores? Cause how where you supposed to remove the sticker in store before buying to know that you couldn't use the palette for what you intended? I can't imagine the store would have been too happy if you take the packaging apart.
The whole way they went about this is insane and it's so odd to me that they might get away with a court paper that says they did nothing wrong. Shouldn't the FDA make it clear to beauty brands that this behavior is unacceptable?
Also personally if I know a product has ingredients that are not approved for use on the eye area (in my own or another country) I probably wouldn't use it. I don't care who's right, I just rather not take that risk. There are so many perfectly fine alternatives.
The reason it’s considered not safe for the eye area in the US is just because of staining. That’s it. I think the best option is for the FDA to get with the times and stop unnecessarily worrying consumers about minor, very temporary staining.
Sure, for legal reasons Huda should have made the “not intended for use in the immediate eye area” more prominent, but she shouldn’t have to put it on the palette in the first place. These pigments are safe, and the EU recognizes that. We should too.
@@MsCarterElise I live in the EU and if my eyes would be stained for days and I wasn't informed that could happen I wouldn't be happy with that brand. Just because you can technically use it doesn't mean you should do that to your customers.
Also weather you agree with the law or not doesn't make it ok to circumvent a country's law by promoting the product to be used on the eyes and then put a sticker under another sticker in a way that almost no one will ever find it saying actually don't use it on the eyes. Consumers shouldn't be ok with something like this and regulators should protect their consumers from such practices.
@@Eeveelyn I guess I just think “may cause staining” is less alarmist than “not intended for the immediate eye area” because unlike glitter, for example, we know these pigments are safe. That’s my issue. Was what Huda did shady? Absolutely. But staining isn’t dangerous, and it isn’t the end of the world. It is at most inconvenient, and the possibility of staining should be made clear to consumers. But by requiring companies to put “not intended for the immediate eye area” on a product that definitely can be put on the eyelid safely, it puts companies in a very strange position.
Additionally, many of these pigments that stain do so because they are vegan and made without carmine. I personally am much more bothered by the prospect of putting crushed up bugs on my eyelids than I am something that might stain. We should be encouraging this easy switches away from carmine, not unnecessarily frightening consumers.
I’m all for strenuous regulation of all consumer goods. I just think this is a place where the FDA has not kept up with the times.
The only thing Huda did wrong in my opinion, was not state clearly it was a pressed pigment palette. As for the promotional videos, photos and articles, so many other brands use pressed pigment palettes on the eyes, so I don’t see the problem there. Unless we can sue them as well 🤨
I actually found Peter Thomas Roth through Lovely Skin (a company my mom gets all her skincare from) and I LOVE the pumpkin enzyme scrub, my skin is dry and sensitive and it’s a beautiful combination of chemical and physical exfoliation that I love
Love love the pumpkin mask by Peter Thomas Roth. Just wish it wasn't so spendy.
Pressed pigments can stain eyes depending on the colour. It’s funny that you can sue for this😭
Ikr???
@peny---💌 what???
@peny---💌 why do I see you everywhere :")
@peny---💌 we don’t care
Yeah there are soooo many brands that use that neon pink/red pigment that stains, I find it funny that it was huda that got in trouble for it?
I really like these videos of yours. i hope you continue to do them... no matter who may be in the wrong the supplier or the consumer. This video stressed the importance of making sure you are not allergic to something.
but I do find them really interesting. maybe you can even go over really old cases maybe even from the 70's 80's or 90's. that might be really interesting to go over, and most likely those cases would be closed. To see if any of them changed ingredients used or help pave the way to the safety standards we have today.
Hooo boy, this is why it's so important to research ingredients so you know how they interact, how they're used, and how they can affect the skin, as well as patch testing. Reactions are so individual that it really does fall to the consumer to be aware and be informed.
I can honestly believe a product would "burn" a hole in someone's face. I have an extreme allergy to adhesives that increases in intensity with stronger adhesives, and it actually causes tissue breakdown and I end up with massive open sores. So I can honestly believe this happened to this poor guy, but as the chemist said, a patch would've helped him to see the effects. I honestly steer clear of fragrances and natural extracts, as they are known to be irritating to some people, especially those with sensitive skin.
My skin reacts to niacinamide, but not always: it depends on % and formulation. And I read that many people have this reaction to it. The problem is that not all products have % stated on the packaging and niacinamide is in everything these days. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in toilet paper soon.
Since it's a known irritant, I wish all producers were obligated to state the percentage on the packaging.
This would make life so much easier for me. I'm allergic to some of the most common ingredients in skin care that are "all natural" but coconut won't cause major reactions if it's in a very small amount. So if it's the third ingredient, I usually can't buy it. Problem is... If it was a drop and everything behind it is also in such tiny amounts, I could probably tolerate it. "Probably".
I wonder if he got a staph infection. He developed an irritation. If he scratched or caused any small abrasion on his face hello bacteria. Staph lives all over our bodies and it can eat away at the skin causing holes to develop. I don't know the circumstances but it sounds like he should have consulted a doctor/dermatologist.
Perfect timing since recently I tried an eye cream and all the next day my eye was cloudy and stung. No more for me!
which one was it?
@@Lilpeach3sz It was the Glow Recipe but I usually love their stuff so not sure what caused it.
@@SandraMorris51 ohhhh the retinol one?!
@@JamesWelsh Yeah. It was a bit unsettling. I was ok after I stopped using it
@@SandraMorris51 yeah I had to work slowly using that. I don’t use retinol around my eyes so when I first got it, I used once a week and worked my way up!
"I'm not the makeup artist twin..." LOL
I am sure that Huda doesn’t even use her own products (besides the times when she films something to promote it)😂😂😂
STAYC GIRLS??????
Although I loved BH Cosmetics most of their palettes are considered pressed pigment palettes so I always patch test and use an eyeshadow base that is tinted to act as a layer to protect my eyes. The formula is amazing but staining is probable if you don’t test and prep. And yet I’ve never heard of anything negative about their formula - now that Makeup Revolution bought the brand I’m curious if they’ll keep the same manufacturers so that they continue to use the pressed pigment formulas for their palettes.
8:01 "I don't know how law works,I'd probably just get some vouchers" 🤣🤣🤣
I clicked so fast to make sure it wasn't one of the eye creams I've used 🤡💜
Omg I used a sample of this I remember the dragon blood and it was red.
I disagree about patch testing because I have suffered all week with a swollen eyelid from using a serum for my face on my eyelid that I have used for years on my face. The skin of your eyelid can be allergic but not your face or arm.
@@SingingAesthetician agreed. Skin on my face is terribly allergic to benzoyl peroxide but my body is fine. Learned that the hard way.
I saw the title and literally looked at my eye cream on the vanity 😂😂😂 I was scared
@@malikagirl yes absolutely and there are known eyelid irritants and companies are putting them in products anyway. My eyelids have been destroyed by terribly made moisturizers, serums, cleansers, sunscreen and eyeshadows. I don’t think not patch testing should be an Ace in the hole of every skincare company. My face can’t take lots of things my body can.
i think the big difference between this and other pallets is now if they have pressed pigments those are listed on the back with stuff like 'may stain and not intended for eye area' so it's not misleading
Having problems with Beauty Bay too, but I ordered just some candles so I will just wait and hope they will arrive to me... eventually. The pandemic taught me to be much more patient about shopping online, that's for sure 0.o
This is why I worry about trying new products 😬
Always patch test! I personally like to patch test behind my ear or just on my neck. I give 48 hours just to be sure!
Fan of stayc?
This happened to me with the Violet Voss Sweet Violet palette and I never understood why it stained my poor little eye lids 🫠 Thank you for showing me the light 💜 😅
There's a lot of eyeshadow palettes that indicate that certain shades should not be used in the eye area or immediate eye area... ColourPop for one has many palettes that state this, along with ABH Norvina palettes, and even Morphe to name a few that I know of.
23:17 the fact that he went in with no primer and its that vibrant.... kinda makes me want it
....I've been a make up artist (and hair stylist as primary) for 16 years and never really knew the difference between pressed pallets that are set up just like eye shadow products... I feel so lied to but also feel better about the fact that I typically use those pressed pigment pallets for lips more than eye shadows.
I'm surprised James is doing this story instead of Robert.
Wonderful job James! 👏 💜🖤💜
Damn. Mad appreciation for you paying to read the legal docs for your videos.
I love these vids and your take on the situation ❤❤❤
It's interesting how information regarding pink and red eyeshadows has changed over just the last 5 years. Red eyeshadows used to never be produced except in the UK because the pigments used were known to stain the skin and were more frequent to causing irritation. I feel like it was talked about a lot back then?
It's all but been brushed over now since more companies in the US have been able to produce hyper pinks and reds under the "pressed pigment" title. I, for one, have been elated since with all the new reds that companies are releasing HOWEVER I also acknowledge that the colors are going to stain, every single time, and it's gonna look worse on my very pink cool toned skin lol.
Not me immediately checking my Huda obsessions palettes for the same disclaimer 😂 (they’re not the neon palettes tho so they’re fine)
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HAHAHAHA I THOUGHT TH-cam WAS DRUNK AGAIN WHEN YOUR INTRO SONG PLAYED. Cuz I was just watching the mv🤣
A couple years ago, I bought Say Yes to Grapefruit face wipes because Say Yes To is cruelty free and I had used some of their other face wipes and had no issues. The grapefruit line was new and marketed for acne and oily skin, so I thought it would work or my combination skin. Well, it turns out they gave me a chemical burn in the corner of one of my eyes. I stopped using them once I started getting irritation and discomfort and it was lucky because I had been using them to remove makeup and I know it could've gotten in my eyes. Stories like this one scare me because it can take one use to cause serious damage.
Jeffree Star did the same thing. His palettes say 'not for use in the eye area' and they stain the lids.
I have never and won't ever buy anything Huda. The brand and its namesake turn me off. It just feeeeels like a scam money grab. I can't explain it. I've always been skeptical.
I trued their iconic concealer.. Maybe it'll work for someone who oozes sebum from every pore.. Lord, you would have to look long and hard to find fmsonething worse at dollar tree!
I get a weird vibe too
Patch tests might not work for everyone to be honest. I'm allergic to the adhesive on bandaids, but only on certain areas of my body. If I have one on my fingers / hands or arms, I'm fine, but anywhere else, and it becomes inflamed, puffy and extremely itchy because the skin begins to peel off. It's strange. I haven't needed to put a bandaid on my face, but there's a good chance that I would have a reaction from it there when I wouldn't have on my arms or wrists
I have something similar, with certain bandaids or adhesives. I got two tattoos recently, one near my collarbone and got a perfect red rash from the second skin but nothing for the one on my leg near my ankle 🤷♀️
I've never used a skincare product that was dangerous to me before fortunately. For me, I usually get Korean products due to their quality and I would go to discount stores to get them for cheaper prices since they're exports so they're pricey.
I haven't gotten an eye cream yet and instead got an eye serum which has retinol and it works wonders. It's made by a Korean brand called Azure.
I used to have dry eyelids earlier this year and it wasn't until I got that eye serum that they became smooth again. Before, I used Ponds moisturizers but since they're not made for eye skin, it would accidentally get into my eyes and I would tear up.
Off-topic: I love your Sailor Moon Luna LED light and Mimikyu plush!
have been casually watching your videos and then you mentioned being a kpop fan during your university days and stayc and it was then i knew i had to stay
I absolutely love this series!!
Thank you!!
Me too!!
My own dermatologist told me myself I'm better off staying away from expensive skin care. He literally made a shopping list with 5 things. Everything was under $25.
Hi everyone. I’m so early for a change. Can’t wait. Love to Ukraine 🇺🇦
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Okay but I see you with the StayC intro music 😏😏❤️❤️
I love how you actually include the @ of who you're working with instead of just a lazy verbal credit.
I’ve had the green and pink neon palettes from Huda, too! I never used them but wow! I thought it was an eye shadow! I’m shocked!
I don't have problems with the green one. But I avoid putting the shimmers too close because when they get inside the eye it's hurts a bit. But when used correctly it's fine. Not the best but usable
I have eczema, severe eczema that covers most of my body. I am so careful with products. I have to do patch tests for 7 days for me to be fully careful with a product
Jamesssss! I ☠️ when you said you laugh when you get nervous. I do this same thing! I remember being about 10 or 11 at my Grandparent's for Christmas. The kids (my cousins and me) were playing games in the dining room when suddenly my great grandpa fell backwards from his recliner. I could hardly contain my laughter, but I laugh when I feel tension or I'm nervous. I swear I got evil looks from everyone! 30 years later, I'm still the same..... just not as bad.
I’m always so careful with buying pallets now because back when I was super into Urban Decay I bought a pallet that I wanted to use for eyeshadow only to read the package when I got home and find out that half were pressed pigments not recommended for use around the eyes. That basically made me nope out of keeping it and I returned it the next day. Granted, most of the pigments would’ve probably been safe but since I love doing really detailed eye looks and wanted it primarily for eye looks I wasn’t about to risk it!
Hi James and James' fans. I"m a professional makeup artist and skincare specialist. I have degrees in both Art and Chemistry, so this was a really interesting video to me. Peter Thomas Roth (PTR) is one of my favorite skincare brands. Having helped people with skincare and makeup for 25 years now, I have to say there is something that has been left out here. PTR has a range of highly effective and safe skincare products and many of them are specifically designed to address skin problems. It is VERY important that you seek the advice of someone THOROUGHLY trained in the brand. Cocktailing products on your own can lead to (you guessed it) irritation. I can remember having a client that wanted to use a 10% Glycolic face wash with a 10% AHA/BHA acid toner, dermatologist prescribed retinol, with a resurfacing serum, and a Niacinamide moisturizer and it wasn't clear if they were going to wear any sunscreen. THIS IS TOO MUCH EXFOLIATION and leaves the skin vulnerable to sun damage. Who knows if they were using a washcloth on their face and eye area (introducing the ingredients from their favorite laundry detergent and fabric softener to their skin care concoction). After coming back to visit me after me strongly suggested them not follow this routine, they were clearly chemically burned, but guess what? They loved the results. Despite having huge red patches on their cheeks with clearly visible inflamed blood vessels. Even after explaining they were chemically inducing rosacea-- no disuading.
So I guess my point is, we don't know what this client was using in combination with the PTR laser focus eye cream and what preventative measures he was and was not including in his routine since a patch test was obviously too much to expect of him. HIGHLY dubious.
As for HUDA Beauty, well they have been shady from the start. From homophobic comments to clearly copying other brands products and marketing campaigns, and now hiding the pressed pigment disclamer. This isn't shocking. Throwing your money at a brand this toxic (in attitude) and then being shocked when they weren't 100% honest, is well.... hmmmm. Yes, I know, some times reputations aren't deserved, but this has pretty much been documented through the years, and I personally think the shady/dodgey reputation was well earned.
About a year ago I noticed that almost all of the pallets that I was receiving in probably 7 beauty subscriptions that I was receiving many of the colors. If you look on the back, they were made in China, and it says like do not use in the Eye area, and it would name off like 6 of the Colors at 12 color pallet type thing. Literally, every single pallet from China said. Do not use on the Eye area even though they were Eye shadow pallets I'm disgusted with what china gets away with. And they also been putting lead in the plastic kids toys, they sell the dollar store for the last 50 years, so there's that.
Every time a palette with a bright red or pink there is someone who cries about staining 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ i think by now learned that these colours as well as purples and browns leaning to the red side of the colour wheel can and most likely will stain your eyes. Having said that, I do agree though it’s not very hard to add a few words to warn people about this possibility as well as the possibility for these pigments to irritate your eye/skin. Also i believe ( i might be wrong ) Huda Beauty HQ and production is in Dubai and not in US which why they usually get away with bs like this, at least to a point.
James I love ya ❤️🔥 never ever stop making videos please. Thank you
Thank you so muuuuch 😍
OMG! THE RUN2U INTRO IS SO PERFECT U STAN STAYC OMG SLAYY
wasn't huda beauty also accused of stealing ideas from beauty bakerie, a black-female-owned indie business, and also copying what they've done to profit off of it? there's something definitely a little fishy about the brand and the fact that they LITERALLY made a whole, separate, COVERED layer on the packaging to HIDE ONE SENTENCE about the dangers of using it around the eyes... would've been much easier to just include that one single sentence on the main packaging or on the website or product advertisements both pre-launch and after it came onto the market.. just really weird. they definitely did the MOST to evade the law and sell it as something that frankly it's not.
Wow! I had a bad allergic reaction years ago from a glittery eyeshadow pallete from Younique. My eyes swole up to the point I couldn't see & had to go to an eye doctor to get drops & antibiotics. I wrote to Younique & they re sent me the same pallete as a sorry! Lol. Xx
So btw, I live about 25mins away from spacex and it shakes my house really bad. I think people within a 40 mile radius feels it.
It’s wild.
OMG your explanation on the lawsuit was hilarious…i mean, not the actual ‘incident’ but your explanation lmao
STAYC INTRO???? Oh I know it’s going down
OMG THE INTRO WITH STAYC!!!!!!!!
@17:40 LMFAO I just adore you.
Edit: & the whole 23 minute mark in it’s entirety 😘🤌🏻😂😂😂😂
Is that I RUN TO YOU? I cant figure the song, i know its StayC.
With regard to the product that burned a hole in the skin it sounds like he woke up one day and decided he needed money. I would have loved to go through that case file. I was a legal assistant in both The Bronx and NYC and cases like this came in all of the time - there is something called comparative negligence -
like how the person contributed to the problem themselves - he expects to win a law suit with no evidence - no photos or more importantly no medical records demonstrating how this affected him. I mean anyone could say anything right? The Court doesn’t just award money based on claims that can’t be backed up so he shouldn’t hold his breath
I have red bumps like that even months after i stopped using the ordinary lash serum and now im scared 😭😭
I was sitting here thinking "how did this happen?" about the eye burning man...and my initial assessment seems to be right. He didn't do his due diligence and do a patch test. I have a huge stash of products and they ALL recommend patch tests, especially the eye creams and face masks. And sometimes they just interact with additional products differently. I've been going through my stash and using products to see what works for me and using up stuff I don't like as much. One eye serum, made by High Beauty, which I've normally never had a bad reaction to, reacted weird to one serum I was using. It left a slight tingly sensation and I immediately washed it off and used another eye cream out of my mug of eye products. Why keep using it if you have a reaction, no matter how initially mild?! I have some products that state that there might be a slight tingling sensation, so I'll keep an eye out for that, but otherwise...if you're not expecing it, it's not normal and you shouldn't continue use. There's warnings on these products for a reason.
I have a travel size trio of masks from Bad Habit and the detox mask, which very good, also leaves a tingling sensation. The first time, it was BAD. But I was using too much. So, I tried it a second time and used a lot less and it was fine. No irritation at all.
It's like when people get upset that a peel burned their face and then state they left it on for longer than the stated time. The one by The Ordinary is a good example. It says to leave on for up to 10 mins, but not a minute longer. I don't risk it and leave it on for 8 minutes lol.
Also, good eye creams don't need to cost a lot. Cosrx is affordable (I don't know if snail mucin is cruelty free, but I use their blackhead and whitehead essences and they're lovely!) and I use the CBD cream by Elf and it's good. I think I paid $8 for it. Andalou Naturals has a CBD line and the eye cream is really great. Also affordable. I have 2 moisturizers, a mask, and an eye cream from PTR that I got on sale on their website and all are wonderful products. Wouldn't pay full price, but they're fantastic. I think they're worth the price, but it makes me gulp seeing the price tags lol.
Great, informative vieo as always, James!
I get irritation with every single eye cream I’ve used and I’ve tried 20+. I can’t imagine it being this bad though!
Jess Aarons I struggle with eye creams. In addition I am older. I used to use clinique when I was younger but still struggling. I have given away so many eye creams & make up.
Funny enough we have an eyewash station in my garage . My husband is a climber ( arborist ) and he gets saw dust and crap in his eyes daily . He uses it everyday when he comes home .
I used one of Peter Thomas Roth under eye products and my skin reacted...badly. Puffiness, irritation and redness. I've never used any of his products since.They don't like me.
I’m like this with the brand REN. A housemate of mine had a bad reaction almost 9 years ago now lol but I can still never touch their products because it ruined her skin so bad!
I do nails, I applied a high quality primer without patch testing. I was highly allergic to it. My fingers looked like they sat in open flames. I know thousands of people who can use it without any reactions. Everyone is different, just because I'm allergic doesn't mean it's a bad product.
haha! You two make my day! Love your artists impression of the "hole in the eye"! I find it strange that anyone who had a hole appear anywhere, didnt run screaming to his GP and definately take some photos just in case! I mean who, in this day and age, doesnt take selfies of anything like that. Even me, who is ancient and not very computer savvy would take photos of a reaction like that, just to make sure my doctor sees it in every way, sometimes things wax and wane and you would want to be sure the GP saw it at best and at worst. Maybe of course it affected him so much, he actually became she??
Is it just me or wouldn't you just stop using an eye cream if it burns or irritates?
Yes! Unless you were a person desperately trying to make some quick cash by suing a brand 🤭
If an eye cream burned a hole in my face, I’d want at least a million dollars.
omg JAMES xD when you said 'you cant bring me to court for this, or maybe you can' omg you killed me im dying xD
I’m suspected of a connective tissue disorder and have ridiculously saggy eyelid skin. I’m talking 10 folds rather than 1 or two. I could use this cream before applying eyeshadow
With the PTR one I wonder if the packaging recommends a patch test as I have seen many that say it literally on the bottle or the box. If they dont they should. People should know to do that especially when it comes to the face but if its not on the package I dont know if a court would agree its standard common sense to do so
I still thin his account of what happened seems iffy. But if it were 2 dozen people coming forward with similar claims then I would consider it credible
So if the pigment isn't "safe" for the eyes what about the glitter !!!
Glitter is a complete hazard and shouldn't be allowed to exist
Ngl, there were a few products I reacted to and still continued to use them, because I payed a certain amount of money or "maybe my skin just have to get used to it". Olay retinol cream and the red one for example. Those were hyped up everywhere and they aren't cheap. My skin hates these creams. Of course I stoppwd using them after like 5 days.
But I would never be like "oh, my skin reacted badly, why not sue the company?", I would be waaay to ashamed to admit that I kept on using the cream😂
*the eyeshadow one is stupid...I tried sooo many eyeshadows and yes, especially with reds you always have to consider that it might stain when using. It is weird that Huda hid the disclaimer like this, but I still think it's stupid...in my rightful opinion. And same with other products, everything can cause allergic reaction, even eyeshadows.
I think it's more problematic how much glitter stuff, that isn't meant for the eyes, is sold with picture of eyelooks with that glitter. If it's no cosmetic glitter, it can damage your eyes badly.
This is definitely my favorite video series ♡
So, the Huda Beauty controversy is genuinely just a re-hashing of the Urban Decay "Electric" palette controversy. They had also included pressed pigments (which are almost always red-based colours) and people complained about staining.
The tricky thing is that people can have reactions like rashes and irritation to red pigments in approved eyeshadows (like red purples and red browns) It's just a sensitivity. I don't love how shady Huda was about the usage but I'm not surprised that some people used the pigments like she did and had a reaction, when she didn't. She's in the wrong for the marketing but the palette itself doesn't contain ingredients that would cause a severe reaction in every person.
I also have the electric palette and I saw that the red stained my eyes for days 😭😭 the green one too, but I had no allergic reaction and I always thought it’s like with lip stains.. when you pack them on they last almost 2 days. I don’t know why people seem to have a problem with staining especially when the colour pay off is so vibrant
Urban decay also had a neon palette at some point. I thought it was super weird that 2 colors were not meant for eyes, but they were very clear about it at least.
James using StayC's new song as the intro is everything
Didn’t know about those re-usable eye patches, thank you for listing it, just ordered me a pair.💋
james walking around his house with eyeshadow smeared on ONE eye for an hour has me crying 😂😂
Bwahahaha! The 'this is what it might have looked like' picture made my week! 🤣
Rolondo wants $500,000
James: I’d end up with vouchers 😂😂😂
You never fail to give me a good giggle 😆🇬🇧
I have the neon obsessions palette in orange and use them regularly on my eyes. I think dark pinks usually stain skin anyway so I'm not bothered. Funny enough i recently recorded a list by colour of all my eyeshadows and thought it weird they didn't name any of the colours like the rest of the eyeshadow palettes. Now I know lmao
I freaking love this series. Also I'm glad you mentioned your eyes because I was sitting here the whole time thinking "his eyes look different, is he wearing contacts?" 😅
"I'll probably just get some vouchers!"
I hear you.
I love these series ! You do such a wonderful job breaking it down
Shewwww that Neon Huda pallette. There was a Makeup Forever pink eye shadow ages ago that stained. They really meant forever lmao
As someone in health and has a hobby for beauty products; I think he pay attention to his skin well enough leaving the bumps alone, continuing the product, and likely got the skin dirty or bacterial infected from a scratch that caused the wound. I have very sensitive skin so adhesives and many skin care products do not react well with me and i have to test new products & pay close attention to any reaction. I feel like that’s just common sense if anyone wants to experiment with beauty products-acknowledge beforehand that all skin is different, many tests are done to make sure these products aren’t toxic, and that you need to learn your skin first to know how it reacts.
I have been binging on your videos so much that I just noticed this is brand new !!!!
And yes , I nodded when you asked if you were crazy for putting on your lids a known irritant ! 😆
We love your skin. Don’t mess it up ! ❤️ kisses
I own those huda palettes the green and pink one
And I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve used them near my waterline maaaany times, not even have had problems with staining or anything 😳 was I lucky? Or my palettes weren’t crap? Idk
...or you didn't rub your eyes while wearing it or you took proper care while taking your makeup off. 👀
@@marysiatomanek538 That too! 😉
I had a Jeffree Star pallet, it was the green one. I loved it so much because I have flecks of green in my eyes and those colors made my eyes really stand out.
But. After applying the eyeshadow my eyes always got more watery than normal. I checked the back of the packaging and there it was, a warning:
INGREDIENT: POISON IVY. DO NOT USE AROUND THE EYES.
... on an eyeshadow pallet. Goddamnit :')