Bucker BU-131 "Jungmann" | Full Flight Review | Martha's Vineyard | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we take take to the skies in the Lionheart Creations Bucker BU-131B "Jungmann", within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We'll be starting on the ground at Burning Blue Design's Martha's Vineyard; after a full startup, we will be heading over to Katama Airfield for some touch and go's and then returning to Martha's Vineyard for a full stop landing. Hopefully the flight should give us a great opportunity to review the product as we go and find out what the "Jungmann" is all about.
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight!
One of the biggest attractions to have this kind of aircraft in the sim in the first place is how they sound.
I was fairly interested in this aircraft, but not having an actual aircraft sound set makes it a no for me.
Yep, a very fair / valid point Sleight. A large part of an aircrafts vintage character comes from the sounds. The C172 soundset also misses a lot vs the ambiance you want from an open-cockpit aircraft. A shame. . .
All the best!
I'm a bit late to the party but flicking through the manual it does mention 'Sound Pack has now been improved to a new vintage 4 cylinder engine very similar to the classic Hirth 504 four cylinder.'
Ah well that’s great to hear Floydrix and hats off to Lionheart for continuing to put the work in! If the aircraft now sounds the part, I might just have to reinstall it and take it for another spin ; )
Cheers for the info! : )
now I watched your (very nice as always) review before making the purchase, and I did it right. Although I have a personal bounding as my grandpa worked as a mechanic on Jungmanns during the WWII, I won’t have this in my hangar. maybe in case of a promo price or after an update, but surely not right now. cheers. :)
Ahhh, but if your grandfather actually worked on the aircraft, then it’s a whole different set of rules Péter! : P
I have a whole collection of aircraft that I never fly (because they’re rubbish quality), but purchased simply because I have some sort of family tie to them haha.
In all seriousness though, sadly this one isn’t anything particularly special. Worth picking up in a sale though for sure - if only to honour your grandpa ; )
A shame it couldn’t have been a slightly more sophisticated offering. It’s not bad, but it’s a bit basic in some areas for sure.
All the best : )
The padding above the instruments looks like a sausage. I'd be hungry all the time flying this.
Haha, I suppose it does a bit Paul - I guess it’d be a bratwurst or a frankfurter in this case then XD
All the best! : )
Test quickie, it's a joy to fly
Ah great, glad you're enjoying it Larkin! These sorts of aircraft can certainly be a tonne of fun in the sim.
Happy flying! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations plus it looks like an X-wing! :) I'd love to fly a real one..
I find this interesting because a gentleman at my home field owns one that is in immaculate condition, nice review
Ah well lucky him! The Jungmann must be an absolute joy to own and fly. Have you managed to talk your way into a flight in it yet? ; )
I’m glad you enjoyed the review! Thanks very much for watching and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations not yet, I have however flown my buddie’s Extra 300L and a 1947 Cessna 195 (in addition to my 172 time) I’m the assistant manager at a small airport, working there full time has allowed me to develop an amazing relationship with the community
Awesome! That must indeed be a brilliant way to build relationships (and get some free flights hehe) etc. Unfortunately circumstances don’t allow for it at the moment, but id love to get back into some “proper” flying, I miss it / the airfield vibe etc.
TH-cam / flightsim will have to fill the GA-shaped hole for the time being though haha.
All the best! : )
For a longer faster flight to Martha's Vineyard, I'd recommend taking off from Teterboro, NJ with great views of NYC on departure, then continuing along Long Island or the Connecticut/Rhode Island coast east to Martha's Vineyard.
That does indeed sound like a very pleasant trip William! Thank you very much for the suggestion - I will certainly keep it in mind for the future : )
All the best!
I'm very impressed with the people on the tarmac. Hard to believe they're not real.
Some of the 3D people models used in MSFS are unnervingly realistic haha. I saw a scenery the other day, where they were clearly using real photos for the faces etc, but it was so well done that the avatars actually looked real. A big improvement over most of what we saw in FSX / P3D etc, but a bit uncanny ha.
All the best! : )
This sim is amazing.
Thanks for taking us along.
It can be pretty spectacular at times. . . My pleasure - thanks very much for coming along for the ride! : )
All the best!
I was really looking forward to your review of the Jungmann, and I think you have once again done a very good job of describing and showing the pros and cons of the plane. I love the way it looks, but the sounds and flight model don't get me excited enough to buy it at full price. The Stearman is my favorite biplane in MSFS at the moment, the sounds really create that feeling of sitting in an open cockpit.Too bad the Jungmann cannot compete in this area, because I mainly use the Stearman in the US and would have liked to fly the Bücker in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.
I'm gonna have to give the Stearman a try. Been waiting for a sale but sounds like it's worth the money in comparison.
@@Largetalons It's 12.95€ at JustFlight, absolutely worth the money!
I really liked your comments. It looked to me that the parking break in attached to the stick. When you hit your control brake the stick moved full forward.
I bought this plane yesterday, however it doesn't respond to my throttle. I use a Honeycomb throttle quadrant. All other planes do. I might have to reload it.
Sorry put my post in the wrong place.
@@greglaw4451 you know you can delete or edit comments here right?
Well, that was 2 touch-and-goes, nudge-nudge, wink-wink!! Nice mini-review, as always.
Ouch, that cut deep Wikstrom!! XD
2 touch and go’s and 3 landings - I hope the they aren’t expecting landing fees for each one haha! Of course, I was merely using my “expert” flying skills to demonstrate the oleo compression animation ; )
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks very much once again! : )
Thank you👍 excellent iconic plane. Got it👍
Thanks Mr Shark! I hope you’re enjoying it then! Happy flying : )
YESSS I was waiting for you to review this beauty. You da Bomb! Thanks!
Haha, thanks very much Hani! Hope it was worth the wait then ; )
Cheers! : )
Hello again, great review as usual. Yep, when you have a 4 cylinder inverted engine, it makes sense to use a horizontally-opposed flat engine as its soundset, not. The aircraft itself doesn't look too bad, but I'm really hanging out for Ant's Tiger Moth Pro in MSFS. Is anyone doing add-on soundsets for MSFS yet?
Thanks very much again John!
Indeed, not an ideal solution. As I mentioned during the video; I can appreciate that not every dev may be capable / have the resources to create an accurate custom sound set, but the use of default sounds then needs to be reflected in the price (I think). A large part of the “vintage” appeal of many aircraft is the sound. With default sounds, I’d be knocking 25% off the asking price straight off the bat.
Like you though, what I’m really looking forward to is Ant’s Tiger Moth. I gather it’s in the works and obviously Ant just released his Drifter for MSFS recently - so hopefully we won’t have to wait too long.
As to custom MSFS sound sets; there are one or two devs creating such products (I gather there is a nice sound pack for the CRJ for example). Interestingly though, I see people have been using TSS soundsets with MSFS addons, so there must be some cross-compatibility there. . .
All the best! : )
Some Jungmanns have been fitted with 150 hp (110 kW) Lycoming O-320 or 180 hp (130 kW) O-360 four-cylinder horizontally-opposed engines so not to far off sound wise.
Fair enough ST, although believe it’s a straight 4 modelled here (by the looks of it)? Again, I don’t think the sounds are all that bad per se, it’s just a shame not to have a custom soundest, especially when I’d imagine the Jungmann sounds considerably nicer than your average 172 hehe.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations LHC dos not know how to make sound packs for MSFS planes at the moment. But who knows in the near future, a Hirth might be found.
That’s fair enough and it’s all far more than I could ever accomplish! As I said during the video, I can understand that it’s hard for smaller devs to come up with sophisticated / accurate soundsets - I do think the price point should reflect the use of default sounds though, as engine sounds are often a big part of the “vintage” appeal. The sounds weren’t a dealbreaker for me, but I know they were a disappointment for some. I certainly thought it was worth a mention anyway. . .
Cheers! : )
flew to northern ireland in a casa 131e jungmann in november, have to say being 6ft tall i was very cozy, knees an inch from the dash, throttle jammed in my left leg, and stick full aft for a wheeler landing, on the plus side though i did fly from the front so i had a very nice view.
You should have been on the top of the wings, up there you get an even better view and the plus side is lots of leg room. 😁
@@WhiteHawk77 Glad i wasnt, was +2c on the ground, we were up at 4000' over the penines, was rather chilly. Flying over the high frequency masts had me feeling a bit uncomfortable for my old chap. lmao
Sounds like quite a cold, uncomfortable and yet no doubt wonderful experience overall haha! I can’t say I’m not a little jealous ; )
Thanks for sharing. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I over exaggerate, it was cold but the day was beautiful very nice green scenery all the way. Went from North Repps (Cromer) to Breighton then Kirkbride and finally crossed the sea to land over at Aughrim, A private strip with a rather challenging slope.
Haha, that’s okay - every good flying story needs a little bit of artistic licence! ; )
Sounds like a truly delightful trip though - some *real* flying! I might even look to recreate that trip (in the sim) myself at some point : )
Thanks again!
Kinda want this one, I do love me an old bi-plane, I fly the Stearman and WACO quite a bit! Shame about the sounds, think the other LHC planes also use default sounds because the dev hasn't figured out the new sound systems yet for MSFS but he does seem to improve his planes over time so hopefully he'll figure it out and we'll get better sounds. I did have some LHC stuff for FSX/P3D that I quite enjoyed and I'd like to do so again with MSFS! My major gripe though is that it's only marketplace. On the offiical LHC website it does have placeholder links for other online stores and a coming soon sign but after a month still marketplace exclusive and I'd much rather get it direct or from Just Flight or something so I'm gonna hold out until then.
Also really excited for Ant's Tiger Moth making its way to MSFS. It can't come soon enough! Thanks for the vid!
It’s by no means a “bad” offering, it’s just quite “middle of the road” at the moment; whereas both the Stearman and the Waco have their own little selling points.
I can certainly appreciate that it’s not easy for smaller devs to create accurate soundsets (and I empathise), but it is of course still a shame, as the sounds are a large part of the charm of these vintage aircraft. As you mention though, it sounds like LHC has been taking good care of the Trinidad, so hopefully the Jungmann will get the same treatment.
I’m sure you’ll still enjoy it overall Megadyptes - but like you, this is just one that I can squint at and pretend it’s a Tiger Moth; once Ant’s offering makes it into the sim, I suspect this one will be sent to the museum for retirement ; )
Cheers! : )
The fuel valve could creep back from vibration, so it makes sense to pull it back.
At the risk of asking a (genuine) stupid question, what’s to stop it creeping forward instead then? XD
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Nothing, except the nose would be down and not up, such as right after takeoff. Some airplanes had mixture arrangements like that for that reason. But, I'm just guessing.
Makes sense. . . Your educated guess is certainly a lot more valid than my almost complete lack of knowledge on the subject! : P
Cheers! : )
A few accuracy issues with the model. 1) The Jungmann does not have a parking brake. 2) No mention of using the very important tail wheel lock on the Bucker. The tail wheel locks the tailwheel to the rudder to allow steering. The first thing you do on getting in a Bucker is lock the tailwheel to the rudder and the last thing you do is unlock it when getting out. The sim does show the lever just below the mag switch. 3) The mixture should be full rich at full back. The reverse of most current aircraft. 4) The seating/view position is very high. You cant really see over the nose in the real thing no matter how tall you are. The seat in the jungmann does not have any adjustment (the jungmeister does). 5) Most jungmann do not have lights.
Check out this youtube site for some real Bucker flying: th-cam.com/channels/vCEiRugRz4xUSrtcnc5Dag.html
Hi SDBF,
Thanks for the info. I’d imagine the addition of a parking brake was a little concession for the sim. The tailwheel lock may have been a miss on my part, but I don’t recall having seen any mention of it in the included checklist. I’m sure there are a number of inaccuracies with the addon; whilst it’s certainly a pretty model, it doesn’t feel like the level of attention to detail is quite there in some areas. . .
Much better to fly the real thing, if you’re lucky enough to be able to do so (and what a joy that must be)! ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks - I'm very luck to own two Bucker and have several friend with them. The model does get the landing gear right as you note. A bit squirely on hard surfaces but fine for grass. If you ever make it to SoCal look me up and I will give you a bucker ride.
Thanks - no reason to fill up the hangar with medium aircraft. I know for experience that I fly them a few hours - then back to my "default" Just Flight Arrow III turbo..
Haha, I think many of us are guilty of having a large collection of “dusty” aircraft Øystein (I know I am). As you say, this is an average offering; not bad, but it doesn’t stick its head out above the competition either unfortunately.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Should fly to the YMCA
Haha! Another time perhaps - I hear it’s fun! ; )
I like the rear seat POV, not as common as it should be.
Indeed Dave, there is something rather special about open cockpit / rear-seat in a tandem aircraft - nice to have another such option in the sim.
All the best! : )
Come on, do a 3 Wheels Touch Down -> No Bounce!
Haha, I don't know what to say Wanderfalke, clearly my skills aren't up to you expectations ; )
I can land many other tailwheel aircraft in the sim without too many issues, but at the time of recording, this one felt very "bouncy". . .
All the best
Was just flying there this morning. Do any of the bi-planes you've reviewed stand out to you from the rest?
Sorry, 13:30 answers my question more or less. :)
@@Largetalons both the Waco and Stearman are really good. The Stearman has better sounds but the Waco looks nicer. Also the Stearman is acrobatic and the Waco is steadier and slower to respond (making long flights easier).
Not tried the Jungmann yet.
A nice summary Roland.
I’d say the Jungmann is on a par with the other two in some areas, but doesn’t really have its own “niche” as a result. It’s prettier than the Stearman, but not as nice as the Waco (in terms of modelling, texturing etc). Systems-wise all three are about on a par with one another. The Stearman has the nicest flight model overall and by far the best soundest (although the Waco’s engine does sound lovely). Unfortunately the Jungmann, whilst nice, doesn’t really offer anything special.
Cheers! : )
Ahh, I probably would have seen you there then Robert, except I turned multiplayer off on my last flight and forgot to turn it on again ha.
If I could only choose one from the current crop of biplanes, it would be the Stearman. It looks the worst of the 3 main contenders, but it flies and sounds the nicest (in my opinion). It’s a very fair offering for the price I think and really the only option of the 3 that gives you the “feeling” that you’re in an open cockpit.
It sounds like you’re probably going to give the Stearman a go - I hope you enjoy it! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for your detailed explanation. I might pick up the stearman tonight. I was offline, too. I Was giving the default pitts a try and didn't want anyone to see my landing attempts. 😁
Biplanes are the best planes! 😋
Haha, absolutely Davide! Double the wings = double the fun! : P
and I know there is STILL one other biplane that is overdue an appearance on the channel ; )
Cheers!
I took a pass on this one , not one of favorite genre of aircraft already got the Pitts Special in MSFS 2020 and I have the full Reno pack no need for another bi-plane I Have enough . I'm waiting on the P-38 to come to xbox if ever ? and Carenado Skymaster again if ever ?
Fair enough Earl, I’m sure it’s not to everyone’s tastes.
The Jungmann is certainly not up to the same standards as the P-38 etc as well. I’m fairly sure both the P-38 and the C337 will make their way onto the Xbox; it sounds like Asobo / Microsoft need to re-jig some stuff behind the scenes in the short term though, before PC addons can be more readily ported over. I’m sure most devs are very keen to have their products out on Xbox though!
All the best : )
There's no need to feel down
Where have I heard that before ;)
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who immediately ran with that.
Haha, that doesn’t excuse such behaviour though Joe! XD
Haha, it took a while for this to click. . . At first I just thought you were insinuating that I sounded depressed during the video XD
I should’ve played the sound during the intro. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I've been singing M S F S by the Village People all morning as a result. You're welcome.
Good looking aircraft, not really my cup of tea though. Another lovely really though, cheers.
Hi Mark,
Yep it’s certainly a pretty aircraft, it’s a shame about the deficiencies in other areas though (sounds / flight model). Not a bad effort by any means, but not a “must have” either currently.
Cheers! : )
Lionheart...always classed as lightweight in FSX..and by me...sorry.
Great review, agree 100 %. I want a WOW FACTOR! I WANNA BUY THIS!
I want to see something special.
A WOW in the flight model?
A WOW thats great and unique!
They are all using Asobo models.
They are all using Asobo figures!
They are using ASOBO FLIGHT MODELS...SHAME!
This doesnt have a uniuque flight model its a C172!!!!!
Sadly it looks like a FSX model port over!
Sorry! No! Its just a money making coin for the coders!
YOU must try harder for my money!
The way I see it David, there are 5 main categories I’m looking for when when buying an addon:
1) Flight model comes first and is of course generally the most important (though I can forgo it somewhat, if we’re looking at a really beautiful recreation of an aircraft in every other way - the aircraft does at least need to be “pleasant” to fly though). All the other categories hinge around number 1.
2) Modelling / texturing
3) Sounds
4) Systems
5) “Fun factor”
I can usually forgo a product being somewhat deficient in category 2 / 3 / 4 or 5, so long as it does all the others well.
Here though, we have a product that has an average flight model, average sounds and average systems depth. I still enjoyed the Jungmann, but it doesn’t offer anything groundbreaking, that’s for sure. As you say, it’s very much lacking any “wow-factor” sadly. . .
All the best!
Not my cup of tea. The flight model has to feel much different then default with these classics. And why we have the possibilities of PBR if we don't use it? At this price? (Not even) One for the gamers! 💙
Hi Ra,
Well it’s interesting that you mention the “gamers”, as I can’t imagine this one ever really appealing to them in the first place? I wonder therefore, whether Lionheart Creations realises that it will mostly be “simmers” looking at this one and that we’ll want a decent flight model (that feels noticeably different from default, as you say) and ideally a nice custom soundset as well.
I can understand why a small dev may not be able to come up with authentic sounds, but then the price needs to reflect that. I enjoy the Jungmann for its aesthetic, but sadly that’s about all it really has going for it currently. It’s not a bad aircraft, but it doesn’t offer anything special vs the competition either unfortunately.
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Agree, maybe jet's are more appealing to the kids. Yet of course many gamers get interested with the consoles and if they have at some point proper peripherals you maybe get some real experiences.
I hope these unusual/unpopular aircrafts get into the sim with all their beauty. Interesting to fly aircrafts that have design flaws in their concepts (the orignal aircrafts, not the models of course) and to work with these flaws. To experience these differences is the whole point to have different aircrafts at the first place.
From a standpoint of quality and to get efficiently many aircraft with high fidelity into the sim over the years i would like to see another process of developing.
As important as visuals and audio are for immersion, small devs simply aren't able to catch it with the necessary fidelity. Microsoft has shown it's expertise and has the tech to scan the visuals and take HQ audio, they would be able to create a small team that over the years adds all that variety into some tech database. Developers can access these raw model for a fee (per model in the marketplace or whatever) and do their actual work/programming: rebuilding the behaviour of the systems in detail, the logic, non-normals - maybe variants of the airframe - still so much work left. Yet this still would require to have access to the aircraft more then once to copy the behaviour and of course real passion and interest for the specific model. More a work of heart at the end, yet what a rich experience for simmer's if we really can feel and even have to fight with the unusual flaws of some airframes... 💙
That’s a very interesting idea / concept Ra. I wonder if to some extent, it isn’t already being done? I see that FlyignIron purchased some high-fidelity audio recordings of the Hellcat for their upcoming product. I guess there probably is a sizeable library of this sort of stuff kicking around these days.
Either way, I think your idea is a great one and it’d be nice to perhaps see it come to fruition (I suppose to some degree that’s what we’re seeing with the likes of the Zibo and FBW mods as well).
Cheers and all the best! : )