Before I even watch the video... *Thank you* for giving the SG-1000 some love. It's so obscure because it was so early and never saw the light of day outside of Japan.
Actually the SG-1000 did get released outside of Japan! The OG model did manage to get a release in New Zealand, and the SC-3000 got to Australia, France, Italy, and Finland, in addition to New Zealand. The SG-2000 Model also made it to Taiwan. This is even mentioned in the video.
5:20 That's not strange at all mate, the Colecovision, MSX, TI-99/4A, and SG-1000 all share similar hardware. 11:36 That's not true anymore, in 2010 it was ported and released to Colecovision, at "teampixelboy" you can see the status of what's been ported.
The SG-1000 looks similar to the Colecovision and MSX as well as other systems because they actually use the exact same CPU. Many systems back then used the Z80 CPU.
The Castle is honestly one of my favorite platformers. I also recommend Hustle Chummy, an amazing single screen platformer, and Girl's Garden, a very unique arcade-y game
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I don't have one of these, and in Colombia are pretty rare and expensive. What I did to play Sega 1000 and Master System was to mod my Dreamcast with a Mini SD reader (Removed serial port jack and soldered it directly to the pcb) to launch those two retro consoles homebrew emulators ( both SG-1000 & SMS have emulators well developed specially for the console) via the mighty DREAMSHELL R4.0. One advantage is not having to use the gdrom drive at all when playing from sd. Its nice to be able to play retro sega systems on original sega hardware. Both emus are extremely well developed. I recommend this option for those who are fans of this astonishing consoles, I think theSMS is definetly better than the NES.
It's interesting to learn the history of the Sega company, starting from thier launch from the US making arcade games before computers to becoming a software manufacturer based in Japan.
I have a PAL SC-3000 from France. It was released in more countries than you named in the video. The PAL SG-1000 was only released in New Zealand though.
"So Mr. Naka, what is this game idea you have?" "You play as a young girl who is trying to keep her boyfriend from running away to the arms of another girl by picking flowers from a field while bears chase you. If you pick enough flowers, your boyfriend won't dump you." "Brilliant! Get to work on it right away!"
Lovely video as always! The more I watch your content, the more I want to become a patron, but I don't have a lot of funds as of now though. Still, always great content here and I hope it continues to go well for you! Thank you!
It's basically the same hardware as the MSX1, barring the inferior soundchip, the AY-3-8910 on the MSX has much more bass and stronger white noise than the SN76489 on the SG-1000 and the SMS...
Boojakascha I take it you mean the home computer SC-3000. I found several references online all claiming it was released in Finland, but not Scandinavia (I don't count anything but Norway, Sweden and Denmark as Scandinavia). For example, the segaretro article (segaretro dot org/SC-3000), and dev dot to/buntine/the-historical-obscurity-of-the-sega-sc-3000-personal-computer-1hac). The most interesting one I found was a Finnish blog that was perfectly understandable with Google Translate: miljoonalaatikko dot com/sega-sc-3000. It confirms the SC-3000 was officially distributed through electronics stores, and it was reported on in the media, e.g. a automobile and tech magazine called Technical World. The blog post also makes the point that the SC-3000 was noted for having good price to performance, having solid circuitry, and being easy to program for. So, even though there was a lack of software at the start, enthusiast would just write their own.
+@@Mogura87 I learned about it in Norway and wasn't sure anymore whether it was sold in Norway or Finland. Thank you so much for the link. Wasn't aware that Finland isn't propper Scandinavia =)
Great video once again THGM!! I have played a couple of SG-1000 on emulation, and it's one of those consoles that really has me curious, and I will probably get one sooner or later when the opportunity arises. It's no technological marvel by any means, bu then again, neither was the Atari 2600 or the Colecovision, and yet they still hold a place of wonder in our hearts. What gets me onto the SG-1000 is the fact that the core of the system is what went on to be the Master System, with the specifications being beefed up, but the heart essentially the same, the famous Zilog Z80, and it surprises me just how much you can squeeze out of that processor with just a little more work on the accompanying components. Another thing I find interesting is that thanks to the SG-1000 existing, the importance of backwards compatibility was opened up to Sega, and later on to other companies like Sony and Microsoft, and even Nintendo although they took their time with that on the home console market and only really embracing the concept from the beginning on their handhelds. Such a shame, the SG-1000 could have been so much more if marketed to more places and opened up to 3rd party., but then Sega have always had an air of arrogance about them with their consoles... every company has their dark side I guess.
Do you own a SEGA Master System Mk1 with card slot? You can play SG-1000 on the Master System. Via card or cartridge, cartridge you will need a Master System flash cart to load the ROMS as I don't think SG-1000 cartridges fit in the Master System, It is backwards compatible with the SG-1000 library of games.
This is why the SG -1000 is better described as the fetus of the MasterSystem, because it's still fundamental the same base hardware architecture but with upgrades. Check it even the Sega My Card slot on the Master System which is what all the SG-1000 series uses. The Sega MasterSystems real name in Asia is also just called the Sega Mark III - to mark the fact that it was the third time it has been upgraded and re-released again with slight branding alterations here and there. Overall Sega released far more hardware than Nintendo ever did because Sega did not go by the Nintendo standard of what was and wasn't successful (see GTVs video on the SG-1000 for details), while Sega upgraded hardware, Nintendo wanted to upgrade their software instead but keep their hardware exactly the same, this is why Nintendo hardware was kept so cheap enough to sell a lot because Nintendo kept it the same and it continued being exactly the same for the best part of a decade and a half at a good price, but it was the software that was more expensive on Nintendo's side by comparison. The reason why is because rather than do what SEGA was doing by upgrading their hardware every couple of years to increase its power and overall development leading to the MasterSystem, Nintendo instead opted to upgrade its software - that's why it was significantly more expensive than Sega software and why getting Sega software is fairly easier compared to the hardware, because Nintendo included chips in their software cartridges along with the ROM files, which were needed to make the game work on the Famicom/N.E.S. Sega was definitely more edgy and arrogant than Nintendo overall, but while Sega preferred to upgrade their hardware more. Nintendo upgraded their software more. This meant that SEGA hardware was generally a bit more expensive but once you invested, the software was cheaper and easier to get than Nintendo software.
My childhood gaming system. Best cartridges are The Castle, Hero and Pitfall II (but once finished you will not play often); Starjacker and Monaco GP (both instantly challenging and playable); Flicky (controls will seem annoying at first but keep at it); and my personal favourite - Lode Runner (many other versions around but the Sega one is smooth and near silent, making it very tense. However it doesn't offer much replay value). Also look out for Sir Roderick's Quest (a New Zealand release) on the SC-3000. Second tier games include - Sinbad Mystery, Star Force, Exerion, Gulkave, Elevator Action and Zippy Race. Avoid - Pacar (repetitive), Pop Flamer (several reasons), N-Sub (too easy), Yamato (too limited), Orguss (looks fantastic, gameplay is basic), Golgo 13 (repetitive and too easy). Almost everything else, even Safari Hunting, while not great, have hidden depths if you play them enough.
Star Jacker is right up my alley, I've grown into quite SHMUP nut. It's quite fascinating that I've learned a lot about Sega's venture into console manufacturing in reverse. I'd love it if the company took off the Mega Drive goggles and release an anthology of THESE games.
The Master System used the same game cartridges as the SG-1000. The Master System can play SG-1000 games, but doesn't always display them correctly. Hence, the Master System isn't officially compatible with SG-1000 games.
The SG-1000 is just the MasterSystem as a fetus, the MasterSystem is the SG-1000 series with all the upgrades, same fundamental base hardware, same compatibility - even the Sega My Card slot on the MasterSystem was just the SG-1000 hardware built into the MasterSystem. So MasterSystem still technically is the first home Sega hardware console to a degree. Your experience might not have displayed correctly because you were using NTSC hardware with PAL software or vice versa.
@@finaltuned2755 The Master System displays legacy TMS colours in a different way than a SG-1000 and SC-3000 does. This results in SG-1000 games' graphics appearing darker when played on Master Systems.
I have always loved the design of the SG-1000 2 but not so much the SG-1000. The second version just looks more like an high-end electronic device, the first looks more... Fisher Price.
I have resubscribe to you top hat gamer. Not gonna lie i have watched a couple new videos of late and realised you were actually a pretty good you tuber.
You said that Girl's Garden is truly exclusive to the SG1000 but it actually did get a port to the Nintendo 3DS. It is unlockable in "Sega Fukkoku Archives 3", if the game detects you have Sega Fukkoku Archives 1 save data on the same 3DS.
Really nice summary. As a massive fan of the Master System growing up I was always very vocal about how much more powerful the Master System was compared to the NES. Growing up I had no idea that there had been 2 or more other consoles previously released by Sega. The SG1000 being released on the same day as the Famicom is a joke, the Famicom wipes the floor with it! I'm tempted to get one for the collection though, as a huge Sega fan it feels somehow sacriligious not to at least have one on the shelf 😁
The SG-1000 and SG-1000 Mark II are better described as the fetus phases of the MasterSystem because they were still basically based on the same fundamental architecture, the Master System was still just the same SG-1000 series but with all the upgrades. That's why the MasterSystem is backwards compatible with the SG-1000 series and even includes the Sega My Card slot from the SG-1000 on the front side. Sega also released far more hardware than Nintendo did overall, because while Sega preferred upgrading their hardware, Nintendo instead preferred to upgrade their software - which meant Nintendo software cartridges were often more expensive to buy - which is something that Nintendo has always done to secure full profit as much as possible. This meant Nintendo including certain chips in their software cartridges which increased the overall price, but they were necessary as the games would not run without them on base Famicon/N.E.S hardware - so there's a little hint for some readers here, Nintendo hardware wasn't necessarily more powerful, just Nintendo being characteristically crafty by moving the upgrade costs to the software instead which they knew they'd shift. That's why Nintendo hardware was often cheaper because they kept the same base system in circulation for the best part of a decade and a half rather than upgrade every couple of years like Sega did, so Sega hardware was a bit more expensive but once invested, Sega software was generally cheaper and easier to get. Sega and Nintendo just had different strategies all in all, so if you judge Sega by Nintendo's standards obviously there will be inconsistencies, see GTV's SG-1000 video for more in-depth explanation.
The Sega MasterSystem is still acknowledged as the first home Sega hardware console because the SG-1000 was really better described as the MasterSystem fetus, it was still the same base proprietary hardware but just re-upgraded, hence the SG-1000 to the SG-1000 Mark II to the SG-1000 Mark III - which was called that just to mark the fact that it was the third time it had been upgraded, and the Sega Mark III was just exactly the same machine as the MasterSystem but with a different brand for other territories in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and some parts of Europe as it never came to the Americas due to the American Atari crash of the industry there in 1983. And of course, all software libraries of the SG-1000 series leading to the definitive MasterSystsm were all backwards compatible because it was still the same fundamental console with variant upgrades like the FM Synth unit, which is why the MasterSystem even still had the 'Sega My Card' card slot on the front side of it, so calling it a completely different console is a bit of a stretch because it still fits the bill of what became the first universal SEGA home console. It wasn't technically a failure either because Sega didn't use the same approach as the Nintendo standard, Sega released far more hardware and upgrades than Nintendo ever did in its time, because Nintendo's strategy was to upgrade their software - by including additional chips into the actual cartridges with the ROM files, so while their Famicom (Family Computer), or N.E.S in the West, was cheap enough to sell a lot over all as it was the same exact system that Nintendo was churning out for the best part of a decade and a half, it's software was where Nintendo followers had their wallets hit the hardest.
The SEGA Master system was the first or one of the first backwards compatible consoles ever, you can play SG 1000 games on the Master System via the card slot on the front.. Or if you have a Master System Everdrive cart you can play the SG 1000 cartridge roms.. Atari 5200 could of been the first backwards compatible system, that is something I will look in to.. Defo sure it was SEGA to first do Backwards compatibility... I would love a SG system as I F-in love SEGA. Oh and I knew SG 1000 was the first Console..
I live in NZ which seems to be one of the few places where this thing existed, - unfortunately never seen one.. Master System dominates the retro scene over here though.
The SG-3000 can be seen in Italian Facebook groups or E-bay listings at times, but regarding the SG-1000 I have never seen one excluding imports. It must have sold very poorly as Italy was a stronghold of microcomputers back then.
Well this was news to me. I didn't know that Sega had made a console before the masters system. This is good to know. Makes me wonder the price for the console and games?
A PAL system is expensive and rare (I paid around 500 euro), but a Japanese mark 2 or SC-3000 is very doable. Most games are very affordable, but rare. I bought plenty for about ten euro each. Some of the (later) releases are expensive.
Did Nintendo not have the rigid exclusivity contracts with 3rd parties at that point? That is usually cited as a big issue that competing consoles had with regards to 3rd party support during the 80s (and very early 90s.)
I found out about this system only when I started diving deep into emulation through the likes of RetroArch. It deeply fascinated me that Sega had released a console more primitive than the Master System. I liken it to the equivalent of the ColecoVision. And, with games being limited in complexity to somewhere between an Atari 2600 and a NES, it was no surprise that they were, for the most part, pretty forgettable. But I have the benefit of being able to appreciate archaic retro games from within their proper context since I grew up with the likes of the Atari 2600 and the Apple IIe. It's easier to consider SG-1000 games for their fascinating history as opposed to their entertainment potential in today's gaming landscape. The game that probably fascinated me the most out of the system's library was the car game Pacar -- very transparently a Pac-Man clone, but also inspired in no small part by Sega's own Head On, an arcade car-based game which, despite predating Pac-Man, involves eating dots in a maze while trying not to run into enemies. It doesn't get much more fascinating than that, really.
I knew there was a thing called the SG-1000 since the late 80's. But because of Sega's confusing naming schemes and the fact that they and Nintendo always gave their systems different names in the US vs Japan, I always assumed it, along with the Mark II and Mark III were an all just variations of the Master System instead of a completely different console.
It's rather funny how Sega of America actually brought a significant amount of fame and fortune to the company while Sega of Japan continued to make poor decision after poor decision which badly hurt the company over the years. It's even rumored that jealousy over Sega of America's success lead Sega of Japan to make bad decisions just to spite the American branch. In other words they pretty much deserved what was coming to them.
Did you know, in December 13th 2018 the time between the dawn of Dreamcast and this date will be the same as the time between the launch of SG-1000 and the Dreamcast.
You think THATS overlooked? At least in the UK the Master System sold good. Here in the good ol’ US of A it was considered a poor man’s NES, and lots of people I’ve met (including my own father) thought Sega’s home consoles started with Genesis and Game Gear. I honestly prefer Master System to the NES, but I fuckin’ love both consoles regardless as they both had some great games released for them.
If you are a true Clive Sinclair zealot, you wouldn't be ashamed at the fact, as he made all the microcomputers with business and education in mind, and didn't want them to be games machines...
It's a good thing you could hide a whole city behind a 5200, keeping it safe from a nuclear attack. Because that's the reaction I imagine coming from THGM when he see how you insulted his precious Speccy. But seriously, that thing looked embarrassing even by early 80's standards.
The Mark III and Master System both are able to play SG-1000 games, so there really is zero reason to own the SG-1000 these days aside for collecting purposes.
It's a good conversation piece, but it just doesn't have anything that great on it. There are just a few good games, most of which can be played on other consoles.
He openly admits he uses "clickbait" thumbnails, and he even explains that he doesn't like them but they actually do work at getting more views so he does them anyway. But you can't say the video titles are clickbait. This one is very accurate in describing what the video is about: The SG-1000 was Sega's first console. A clickbait title would be: "Does it suck? Sega's SG-1000" or "Proof that Sega was alway shite at consoles." And I wouldn't call him shallow either, as he brings a lot of information, and not just rambling opinions.
OK, Trophy Huntress, not trying to argue and notice I'm not saying anything you said is wrong (I seem to anger people or without that being my intention), but here's my responses: 1. You clearly have your mind made up about the thumbnail, and I really won't argue, it is cheap clickbait. 2. When the OP said, "I found this guy to be very clickbaity" he is implying that everything about him (including titles) is clickbaity. 3. Good point, but reading wiki is boring, and THGM put together a decent video with relevant footage. 4. Probably, but I think this guy's style is entertaining.
That’s true Andrea :D and I don’t think this on had that ? And to Worley´s its easy to miss sum Detail now and then Fx I am making a History off Sega because off the SEGA Gremlin Relationship ??? it was confusing and is SEGA from Hawaii or Japan and so-on but new Details kip popping up so I am bund to mist sum info her and there ;D so far it has goen from bing 1 Magazine to being a 3 parts Magazine LOL
I think the Sega Pong machine was with a number of games, but all in the memory and you change game with a switch, much like most other pong machines. The Nintendo ones I think were several complete units, each with their own game, and each one a different colour... imagine a Pong machine mixed with a Game & Watch. I could be wrong about both, because I'm going off memory and it was a long time ago when i found them on the internet, in the dark corners that game companies prefer you forget exist... hehehehe
It's like there was a whole parallel dimension of gaming next to our own. Totally alien and unfamiliar, yet similar and recognizeable.
Before I even watch the video... *Thank you* for giving the SG-1000 some love. It's so obscure because it was so early and never saw the light of day outside of Japan.
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Actually the SG-1000 did get released outside of Japan! The OG model did manage to get a release in New Zealand, and the SC-3000 got to Australia, France, Italy, and Finland, in addition to New Zealand.
The SG-2000 Model also made it to Taiwan.
This is even mentioned in the video.
I like how you tell a story with these videos. Yeeeaaaaaaahhh.
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5:20 That's not strange at all mate, the Colecovision, MSX, TI-99/4A, and SG-1000 all share similar hardware.
11:36 That's not true anymore, in 2010 it was ported and released to Colecovision, at "teampixelboy" you can see the status of what's been ported.
I'm watching you since day one and i still don't get how come you only got 28k subscribers when you deserve a ton more
The SG-1000 looks similar to the Colecovision and MSX as well as other systems because they actually use the exact same CPU. Many systems back then used the Z80 CPU.
The Castle is honestly one of my favorite platformers. I also recommend Hustle Chummy, an amazing single screen platformer, and Girl's Garden, a very unique arcade-y game
I don't have one of these, and in Colombia are pretty rare and expensive. What I did to play Sega 1000 and Master System was to mod my Dreamcast with a Mini SD reader (Removed serial port jack and soldered it directly to the pcb) to launch those two retro consoles homebrew emulators ( both SG-1000 & SMS have emulators well developed specially for the console) via the mighty DREAMSHELL R4.0. One advantage is not having to use the gdrom drive at all when playing from sd. Its nice to be able to play retro sega systems on original sega hardware. Both emus are extremely well developed. I recommend this option for those who are fans of this astonishing consoles, I think theSMS is definetly better than the NES.
When you realize that the peppy young model in the ad is at this point quite elderly...
It's interesting to learn the history of the Sega company, starting from thier launch from the US making arcade games before computers to becoming a software manufacturer based in Japan.
Great video man, not enough people talk about this console.
I have a PAL SC-3000 from France. It was released in more countries than you named in the video. The PAL SG-1000 was only released in New Zealand though.
I definitely think a Megajet video would be pretty cool! 👍
"So Mr. Naka, what is this game idea you have?"
"You play as a young girl who is trying to keep her boyfriend from running away to the arms of another girl by picking flowers from a field while bears chase you. If you pick enough flowers, your boyfriend won't dump you."
"Brilliant! Get to work on it right away!"
You need to do the Laseractive next! :) Great video as always.
Lovely video as always! The more I watch your content, the more I want to become a patron, but I don't have a lot of funds as of now though. Still, always great content here and I hope it continues to go well for you! Thank you!
You could consider starting at $1 a month, which you can raise/lower/cancel at any time.
@@bluearmy893 It does for me, I assure you.
I love the MSX aesthetics of the games
It's basically the same hardware as the MSX1, barring the inferior soundchip, the AY-3-8910 on the MSX has much more bass and stronger white noise than the SN76489 on the SG-1000 and the SMS...
Boojakascha I take it you mean the home computer SC-3000. I found several references online all claiming it was released in Finland, but not Scandinavia (I don't count anything but Norway, Sweden and Denmark as Scandinavia). For example, the segaretro article (segaretro dot org/SC-3000), and dev dot to/buntine/the-historical-obscurity-of-the-sega-sc-3000-personal-computer-1hac).
The most interesting one I found was a Finnish blog that was perfectly understandable with Google Translate: miljoonalaatikko dot com/sega-sc-3000. It confirms the SC-3000 was officially distributed through electronics stores, and it was reported on in the media, e.g. a automobile and tech magazine called Technical World. The blog post also makes the point that the SC-3000 was noted for having good price to performance, having solid circuitry, and being easy to program for. So, even though there was a lack of software at the start, enthusiast would just write their own.
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I learned about it in Norway and wasn't sure anymore whether it was sold in Norway or Finland. Thank you so much for the link. Wasn't aware that Finland isn't propper Scandinavia =)
so do i
Great video once again THGM!!
I have played a couple of SG-1000 on emulation, and it's one of those consoles that really has me curious, and I will probably get one sooner or later when the opportunity arises. It's no technological marvel by any means, bu then again, neither was the Atari 2600 or the Colecovision, and yet they still hold a place of wonder in our hearts. What gets me onto the SG-1000 is the fact that the core of the system is what went on to be the Master System, with the specifications being beefed up, but the heart essentially the same, the famous Zilog Z80, and it surprises me just how much you can squeeze out of that processor with just a little more work on the accompanying components. Another thing I find interesting is that thanks to the SG-1000 existing, the importance of backwards compatibility was opened up to Sega, and later on to other companies like Sony and Microsoft, and even Nintendo although they took their time with that on the home console market and only really embracing the concept from the beginning on their handhelds.
Such a shame, the SG-1000 could have been so much more if marketed to more places and opened up to 3rd party., but then Sega have always had an air of arrogance about them with their consoles... every company has their dark side I guess.
Do you own a SEGA Master System Mk1 with card slot? You can play SG-1000 on the Master System. Via card or cartridge, cartridge you will need a Master System flash cart to load the ROMS as I don't think SG-1000 cartridges fit in the Master System, It is backwards compatible with the SG-1000 library of games.
This is why the SG -1000 is better described as the fetus of the MasterSystem, because it's still fundamental the same base hardware architecture but with upgrades.
Check it even the Sega My Card slot on the Master System which is what all the SG-1000 series uses. The Sega MasterSystems real name in Asia is also just called the Sega Mark III - to mark the fact that it was the third time it has been upgraded and re-released again with slight branding alterations here and there.
Overall Sega released far more hardware than Nintendo ever did because Sega did not go by the Nintendo standard of what was and wasn't successful (see GTVs video on the SG-1000 for details), while Sega upgraded hardware, Nintendo wanted to upgrade their software instead but keep their hardware exactly the same, this is why Nintendo hardware was kept so cheap enough to sell a lot because Nintendo kept it the same and it continued being exactly the same for the best part of a decade and a half at a good price, but it was the software that was more expensive on Nintendo's side by comparison.
The reason why is because rather than do what SEGA was doing by upgrading their hardware every couple of years to increase its power and overall development leading to the MasterSystem, Nintendo instead opted to upgrade its software - that's why it was significantly more expensive than Sega software and why getting Sega software is fairly easier compared to the hardware, because Nintendo included chips in their software cartridges along with the ROM files, which were needed to make the game work on the Famicom/N.E.S.
Sega was definitely more edgy and arrogant than Nintendo overall, but while Sega preferred to upgrade their hardware more. Nintendo upgraded their software more. This meant that SEGA hardware was generally a bit more expensive but once you invested, the software was cheaper and easier to get than Nintendo software.
My childhood gaming system. Best cartridges are The Castle, Hero and Pitfall II (but once finished you will not play often); Starjacker and Monaco GP (both instantly challenging and playable); Flicky (controls will seem annoying at first but keep at it); and my personal favourite - Lode Runner (many other versions around but the Sega one is smooth and near silent, making it very tense. However it doesn't offer much replay value). Also look out for Sir Roderick's Quest (a New Zealand release) on the SC-3000. Second tier games include - Sinbad Mystery, Star Force, Exerion, Gulkave, Elevator Action and Zippy Race. Avoid - Pacar (repetitive), Pop Flamer (several reasons), N-Sub (too easy), Yamato (too limited), Orguss (looks fantastic, gameplay is basic), Golgo 13 (repetitive and too easy). Almost everything else, even Safari Hunting, while not great, have hidden depths if you play them enough.
Star Jacker is right up my alley, I've grown into quite SHMUP nut. It's quite fascinating that I've learned a lot about Sega's venture into console manufacturing in reverse. I'd love it if the company took off the Mega Drive goggles and release an anthology of THESE games.
The Master System used the same game cartridges as the SG-1000. The Master System can play SG-1000 games, but doesn't always display them correctly. Hence, the Master System isn't officially compatible with SG-1000 games.
The SG-1000 is just the MasterSystem as a fetus, the MasterSystem is the SG-1000 series with all the upgrades, same fundamental base hardware, same compatibility - even the Sega My Card slot on the MasterSystem was just the SG-1000 hardware built into the MasterSystem. So MasterSystem still technically is the first home Sega hardware console to a degree.
Your experience might not have displayed correctly because you were using NTSC hardware with PAL software or vice versa.
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The Master System displays legacy TMS colours in a different way than a SG-1000 and SC-3000 does.
This results in SG-1000 games' graphics appearing darker when played on Master Systems.
Awesome video 👌
I have always loved the design of the SG-1000 2 but not so much the SG-1000. The second version just looks more like an high-end electronic device, the first looks more... Fisher Price.
I have resubscribe to you top hat gamer. Not gonna lie i have watched a couple new videos of late and realised you were actually a pretty good you tuber.
The SG-1000 is something I do have experience with. However, I really only played one game.
Before I became familiar with 8-bit, I grew up on 16-bit and 32-bit.
You said that Girl's Garden is truly exclusive to the SG1000 but it actually did get a port to the Nintendo 3DS. It is unlockable in "Sega Fukkoku Archives 3", if the game detects you have Sega Fukkoku Archives 1 save data on the same 3DS.
I have a SC-3000. I find it to be a fun system with an interesting library of games.
Really nice summary. As a massive fan of the Master System growing up I was always very vocal about how much more powerful the Master System was compared to the NES. Growing up I had no idea that there had been 2 or more other consoles previously released by Sega. The SG1000 being released on the same day as the Famicom is a joke, the Famicom wipes the floor with it! I'm tempted to get one for the collection though, as a huge Sega fan it feels somehow sacriligious not to at least have one on the shelf 😁
The SG-1000 and SG-1000 Mark II are better described as the fetus phases of the MasterSystem because they were still basically based on the same fundamental architecture, the Master System was still just the same SG-1000 series but with all the upgrades. That's why the MasterSystem is backwards compatible with the SG-1000 series and even includes the Sega My Card slot from the SG-1000 on the front side.
Sega also released far more hardware than Nintendo did overall, because while Sega preferred upgrading their hardware, Nintendo instead preferred to upgrade their software - which meant Nintendo software cartridges were often more expensive to buy - which is something that Nintendo has always done to secure full profit as much as possible. This meant Nintendo including certain chips in their software cartridges which increased the overall price, but they were necessary as the games would not run without them on base Famicon/N.E.S hardware - so there's a little hint for some readers here, Nintendo hardware wasn't necessarily more powerful, just Nintendo being characteristically crafty by moving the upgrade costs to the software instead which they knew they'd shift.
That's why Nintendo hardware was often cheaper because they kept the same base system in circulation for the best part of a decade and a half rather than upgrade every couple of years like Sega did, so Sega hardware was a bit more expensive but once invested, Sega software was generally cheaper and easier to get.
Sega and Nintendo just had different strategies all in all, so if you judge Sega by Nintendo's standards obviously there will be inconsistencies, see GTV's SG-1000 video for more in-depth explanation.
My SG-1000 is one of my prized possessions. Fun fact, The Dreamcast's colour scheme was taken and inspired by the SG-1000.
The last music track that was played, was that from NiGHTS?
The Sega MasterSystem is still acknowledged as the first home Sega hardware console because the SG-1000 was really better described as the MasterSystem fetus, it was still the same base proprietary hardware but just re-upgraded, hence the SG-1000 to the SG-1000 Mark II to the SG-1000 Mark III - which was called that just to mark the fact that it was the third time it had been upgraded, and the Sega Mark III was just exactly the same machine as the MasterSystem but with a different brand for other territories in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and some parts of Europe as it never came to the Americas due to the American Atari crash of the industry there in 1983.
And of course, all software libraries of the SG-1000 series leading to the definitive MasterSystsm were all backwards compatible because it was still the same fundamental console with variant upgrades like the FM Synth unit, which is why the MasterSystem even still had the 'Sega My Card' card slot on the front side of it, so calling it a completely different console is a bit of a stretch because it still fits the bill of what became the first universal SEGA home console. It wasn't technically a failure either because Sega didn't use the same approach as the Nintendo standard, Sega released far more hardware and upgrades than Nintendo ever did in its time, because Nintendo's strategy was to upgrade their software - by including additional chips into the actual cartridges with the ROM files, so while their Famicom (Family Computer), or N.E.S in the West, was cheap enough to sell a lot over all as it was the same exact system that Nintendo was churning out for the best part of a decade and a half, it's software was where Nintendo followers had their wallets hit the hardest.
The sg-1000 was not a failure
The SEGA Master system was the first or one of the first backwards compatible consoles ever, you can play SG 1000 games on the Master System via the card slot on the front.. Or if you have a Master System Everdrive cart you can play the SG 1000 cartridge roms.. Atari 5200 could of been the first backwards compatible system, that is something I will look in to.. Defo sure it was SEGA to first do Backwards compatibility... I would love a SG system as I F-in love SEGA. Oh and I knew SG 1000 was the first Console..
I live in NZ which seems to be one of the few places where this thing existed, - unfortunately never seen one.. Master System dominates the retro scene over here though.
I just got the emulator of sg 1000 for the dreamcast! Works great, needs more games tho!!
I am impressed with the graphics
A video on the Sega CDX would be fun. :)
The SG-3000 can be seen in Italian Facebook groups or E-bay listings at times, but regarding the SG-1000 I have never seen one excluding imports. It must have sold very poorly as Italy was a stronghold of microcomputers back then.
You mean the SC-3000.
@@finaltuned2755 Yes..the SC-3000.
Gotcha to 1000 likes.
Well this was news to me. I didn't know that Sega had made a console before the masters system. This is good to know. Makes me wonder the price for the console and games?
Triple fife outrageous. Very expensive to collect for unfortunately.
Well thats to bad. @CDi guy do you know by chance if there is a way to at least experience these games? Maybe like a emulator or something?
A PAL system is expensive and rare (I paid around 500 euro), but a Japanese mark 2 or SC-3000 is very doable. Most games are very affordable, but rare. I bought plenty for about ten euro each. Some of the (later) releases are expensive.
Good to know.
Casper Egas the original Japanese SG1000 is also rare and expensive which is too bad because it’s the most iconic and coolest looking one.
Did Nintendo not have the rigid exclusivity contracts with 3rd parties at that point? That is usually cited as a big issue that competing consoles had with regards to 3rd party support during the 80s (and very early 90s.)
This sega console predates the Nes. So the didnt have the exclusive contracts yet.
That anime girl pic... It's so blatant, it even overshadows the frame! I LIKE IT. :D
Oh, and the video is great as well. :)
Great !!!
What job do you do to travel the world like you have in your videos?
I remortgaged and took a year out, which is when alot of my footage around the world was shot.
I found out about this system only when I started diving deep into emulation through the likes of RetroArch. It deeply fascinated me that Sega had released a console more primitive than the Master System. I liken it to the equivalent of the ColecoVision. And, with games being limited in complexity to somewhere between an Atari 2600 and a NES, it was no surprise that they were, for the most part, pretty forgettable. But I have the benefit of being able to appreciate archaic retro games from within their proper context since I grew up with the likes of the Atari 2600 and the Apple IIe. It's easier to consider SG-1000 games for their fascinating history as opposed to their entertainment potential in today's gaming landscape. The game that probably fascinated me the most out of the system's library was the car game Pacar -- very transparently a Pac-Man clone, but also inspired in no small part by Sega's own Head On, an arcade car-based game which, despite predating Pac-Man, involves eating dots in a maze while trying not to run into enemies. It doesn't get much more fascinating than that, really.
Xcuse me guys, how's that Mega Drive game from the opening sequence called?
They made it after they made Pokemon, but before they turned Nintendo exclusive.
you may like to check out Bomb Jack and The Castle as well. I thought the Castle is maybe the best game on that system.
Source for thumbnail? I-I need it f-for “research!”
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Have you done a video on the Atari Jaguar yet?
It didn't come to the U.S. because it's actually a Colecovision.
Yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...
Hey-yo Nakayama has a powerful comb-over.
@9:18 what is this? gradius never made it to the sega master system
See I never knew there was a system before Gensis, so this was neat
I knew there was a thing called the SG-1000 since the late 80's. But because of Sega's confusing naming schemes and the fact that they and Nintendo always gave their systems different names in the US vs Japan, I always assumed it, along with the Mark II and Mark III were an all just variations of the Master System instead of a completely different console.
Yeaahhh
Yeeeaaaaaaahhh
It's rather funny how Sega of America actually brought a significant amount of fame and fortune to the company while Sega of Japan continued to make poor decision after poor decision which badly hurt the company over the years. It's even rumored that jealousy over Sega of America's success lead Sega of Japan to make bad decisions just to spite the American branch. In other words they pretty much deserved what was coming to them.
1:10 What game is it? Seems a kind of precuel/spin-off of Bubble Bobble!! I'd like to know it!!!!
Could you imagine Doki Doki Literature Club on this console?
Chuckled at the notion we must mention that 'Doki Doki' can mean more than DD Panic and Literature Club...
Do the HyperScan next :p
Did you know, in December 13th 2018 the time between the dawn of Dreamcast and this date will be the same as the time between the launch of SG-1000 and the Dreamcast.
I am surprised by Sega`s massive improvement from this to the genesis.
Yeeeaaaaaaahhh
You think THATS overlooked? At least in the UK the Master System sold good. Here in the good ol’ US of A it was considered a poor man’s NES, and lots of people I’ve met (including my own father) thought Sega’s home consoles started with Genesis and Game Gear. I honestly prefer Master System to the NES, but I fuckin’ love both consoles regardless as they both had some great games released for them.
Japanese girl giggling behind her hands classic😊
Does it come with the girl?
9:47 "It would not be a real SEGA console if it did not have add-ons".
Has SEGA ever made a console that didn't have add-ons?
I was gonna say the Game Gear didn't have any and then I saw its TV tuner. 😳
I love the psp
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You gotta getcha some girls garden!
So right out of the gate, Sega's fear of Nintendo shaped how they ran their gaming business.
It had better game coders than the Colecovision coders.
better than the zx spectrum
You'll be thankful of those rubber keys when they start hitting you over the head with their ZX81s.
its okay I got an atari 5200 to use as a shield.
@@SAM-ru4vx At last, a good use for the 5200! 😀
If you are a true Clive Sinclair zealot, you wouldn't be ashamed at the fact, as he made all the microcomputers with business and education in mind, and didn't want them to be games machines...
It's a good thing you could hide a whole city behind a 5200, keeping it safe from a nuclear attack. Because that's the reaction I imagine coming from THGM when he see how you insulted his precious Speccy. But seriously, that thing looked embarrassing even by early 80's standards.
Poland bears. 🇵🇱🐻
Sega ‘ no thirt party software on my SG1000 yeeeaaah’ oh wait,,, whooops.
SEGA wanted 3rd Party software for SG-1000 and MarkIII, but new Parent Company CSK and its owner Isao Okawa said no.
I once put an sg-1000 cartridge in my mouth
Most people clicked on the video because of the thumbnail. NoteI clicked on this video because I wanted to say that
Congo Bongo lol
The Mark III and Master System both are able to play SG-1000 games, so there really is zero reason to own the SG-1000 these days aside for collecting purposes.
Star Jacker is my favorite SG-1000 game
I play SG-1000 on an emulator *Gasp* Sorry I guess emulators are to taboo for gamers
It's a good conversation piece, but it just doesn't have anything that great on it. There are just a few good games, most of which can be played on other consoles.
You should practice reading your script before recording it.
Sported a lie bra.
Atari two six hundred
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I see waifu, I click video.
I found this guy to be very clickbaity in my opinion.
He openly admits he uses "clickbait" thumbnails, and he even explains that he doesn't like them but they actually do work at getting more views so he does them anyway. But you can't say the video titles are clickbait. This one is very accurate in describing what the video is about: The SG-1000 was Sega's first console. A clickbait title would be: "Does it suck? Sega's SG-1000" or "Proof that Sega was alway shite at consoles." And I wouldn't call him shallow either, as he brings a lot of information, and not just rambling opinions.
OK, Trophy Huntress, not trying to argue and notice I'm not saying anything you said is wrong (I seem to anger people or without that being my intention), but here's my responses:
1. You clearly have your mind made up about the thumbnail, and I really won't argue, it is cheap clickbait.
2. When the OP said, "I found this guy to be very clickbaity" he is implying that everything about him (including titles) is clickbaity.
3. Good point, but reading wiki is boring, and THGM put together a decent video with relevant footage.
4. Probably, but I think this guy's style is entertaining.
It's nice to see a civil argument on TH-cam for once.
His videos also always seem to pop up shortly after another, better video on the same topic. Done with this channel.
@HEAVY SYSTEMS, Inc. What does paying or not paying have to do with the quality/integrity of Top Hat's work?
Weal they diet make a Pong like clone before the SG1000 :)
Nintendo did the same thing really before their Famicom...
yes :) i think so
I guess it depends on your definition of console. Many people don't include those that don't have interchangeable cartridges...
That’s true Andrea :D and I don’t think this on had that ?
And to Worley´s its easy to miss sum Detail now and then Fx I am making a History off Sega because off the SEGA Gremlin Relationship ??? it was confusing and is SEGA from Hawaii or Japan and so-on but new Details kip popping up so I am bund to mist sum info her and there ;D
so far it has goen from bing 1 Magazine to being a 3 parts Magazine LOL
I think the Sega Pong machine was with a number of games, but all in the memory and you change game with a switch, much like most other pong machines. The Nintendo ones I think were several complete units, each with their own game, and each one a different colour... imagine a Pong machine mixed with a Game & Watch.
I could be wrong about both, because I'm going off memory and it was a long time ago when i found them on the internet, in the dark corners that game companies prefer you forget exist... hehehehe