Mythology guy I hope you hear this I love your videos you’re one of my favorite TH-camrs whenever I want to learn about mythology I come to your channel i’ve been into mythology my entire life and it’s great to see someone who loves it as much as I do
To quote something I found on the internet: “The bar was so low, it was practically a tripping hazard in hell, but here you are, limbo dancing with the devil.”
@@Ilovemusic6584 unfortunately i can't find the original person, but it has floated around on the internet for a while and to not say i didn't come up with this amazing line felt wrong
In the book, Tyson wasn't simple-minded, he was a literal child. He was physically around 15 when we met him, but because of the way cyclopes age, he was literally a toddler
“You know, the Christians have a guy who can do this trick in reverse. Now That’s a god!” I haven’t watched this movie since it was in theaters (and really, who can blame me), but I gotta admit that’s a pretty clever line.
I also liked how he looks like the stereotypical “hungover worst uncle that thinks he is the coolest”. That and the leopard shirt. Those things surprisingly work
Must have forgotten that part. Mine was Nathan Fillion(Mercury)'s reference to firefly: Tyson: 'Hercules kicks butt'? Mercury: It was the best show ever...So of course it was cancelled!
@@GOJIKOTM3 yes but i believe Neptune in Roman Mythology and Poseidon in greek mythology are the same person. Also in one episode of spongebob there is an arguement between two fish of whether he is Poseidon or Neptune
I wonder how they would’ve handled Nico and Will lmao. “Oh no they’re just really good friends!” “They’re COUSINS that’s why they care about each other so much!! Just like Achilles and Patroclus!”
Something that personally broke my mind was: They obviously wanted to make sequels. They had Chronos backstab Luke at first opportunity. How can anyone expect Luke to be so moronic that he would be like "Well, the Titan that I have been working to resurrect back stabbed me immediately. That really sucked. Welp. Time to get back to plotting more ways to resurrect Chronos."
@@GothPaoki that’s just writing differences-I’ve seen Chronos, kronos, and I think Cronus too. It’s a bet hard when they are reading Ancient Greek- for all we know it could be sandyoukius lol
@@carsoneck1812 it's not just writing difference. They're not even spelled the same. Chronos is read like Hro-nos. Ancient Greeks also often confused these two but they're two different things. Kronos is a titan that is associated with time and chronos is described as a 3 headed personification of time
I have a simple phrase to describe the movie adaptations of Percy Jackson: "They f*cked up the plot so bad that they can't even make any more sequels - not because of disapproval or usage rights, but because the plot just doesn't exist now."
My class actually read the first Percy Jackson book as an assignment from our teacher and we loved the book and after we finished reading it we watched the movie and hated it so much we actually tried to make a Percy Jackson school play that would actually be accurate to the books
For those who havent read the book, the reason Tyson was able to get through the barrier: When Tyson saw Percy in danger battling the Colchis bulls, he fought tooth and nail against the barrier, crying "Percy needs help!" trying to help his friend, and Annabeth, in a moment of desperation, grants him permission to enter camp (the only way monsters can enter the barrier is if given permission), and he's able to rush in and join the fight against the bulls
As TH-camr Morgan Ross aka MovieFlame pointed out, Tyson being able to enter camp could have also been used to explain the failing camp barrier, which again displays the incompetence of the screenwriter.
@@minrak4780 If you want more of that, I recommend checking out Hello Future Me's two and a half hours video titled "The Last Airbender is the Worst Film Ever Made - HERE'S WHY" ^^
To be fair, a lot of the sexual tension between Percy and Clarisse is due mostly to them making Annabeth basically Clarisse in the first movie and so Clarisse kind of takes over Annabeth’s role as a result. They kinda ducked themselves with that :/
Me and my friends have a theory that the actor for Annabeth actually read the book, because in the first movie she looks like she’s actually trying to make the movie good, but in the Sea of Monsters she just…. Gives up
Daddario has expressed enthusiasm for the Disney+ series and has good acting credibility elsewhere. I put the blame squarely on 20th Century Fox and Thor Freudenthal.
Can we just talk about the fact that the biggest victim of this production was the poor girl who was casted for Thalia? She was probably a big fan of the books, an up and coming young and ambitious actress, just landed a HUGE role for a HUGE franchise in a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, had to settle for 10 total seconds of screen time knowing that she would get her time to shine in the later 3 books and possibly more… and none of that happened. I feel terrible for her
Poseidon is the god of the seas. Seas. Not lakes. Why does Percy think he can talk to Pop Pop by talking to what is basically a glorified puddle? Not to mention, in the books, the Camp was literally on the ocean. Like, it literally had a beach. Go like five hundred yards West, Percy, and maybe you can get a response.
This is like if it turned out in the 3rd Harry potter film that Sirius Black was actually trying to kill Harry all year but failed to do so because of imcompetense, and in the squeaking shack it is revealed that Sirius and Snape were great friends at school and that's why Snape was helping Sirius infiltrate Hogwarts. They then proceed to summon Voldemort in the shack, but as everybody knows Harry is brave so he manages to kill Voldemort with the elderwand which was hiding in the golden snitch. Then you thought it was over but before leaving the school for the summer holiday Harry is called into Dumbledores office, it turns out Albus is dying and he reveals to Harry that Voldemort is not dead but had these things called Horcruxes. The end
I will forever be salty that we don’t have a good Percy Jackson adaptation that has Nathan Fillion as Hermes and Stanley Tucci as Dionysus. Those are perfect casting choices
Luke in the books: one smart and scary SoB, yet still a tragic character. Luke in the movie: DUUUUUUH I reveal my plans to Percy, ride on his sea wave and let Kronos eat me!
Luke’s character has to be my most hated character in this movie because of this. Being a thief means you really have to be smart, and the way Luke strategically tried to start a war amongst the Gods all while subliminally helping Kronos go free had to be one of the best written plots ever for the book! Only for us to get this guy in the movie.
At the end of this year's school year, my school put this movie on for the entire school in our auditorium. Every Percy Jackson fan wanted to die the entire time. I heard several groans and sighs of disappointment. We all hated the experience and we all hated the school for it.
You know what’s sad the character of Percy Jackson was actually passed on Rick’s son, his son had ADHD alongside with Dyslexia and he didn’t like to read or write in school so he didn’t do his homework but then one day his son became fascinated in Greek Mythology in his school and started learning more about the myths and even played Hades in his school play, Rick read stories about Greek mythology to his son every night before his bedtime one day Rick ran out of stories to tell so then one day Rick made his own fictional story about Percy Jackson the sea of monsters just for his son then he showed it to his seventh grade students and they loved it, Rick wanted to publish it to a editor after some time he got an editor who was interested in his books and loved it so then they fully published it back in 2006 and voila The Percy Jackson franchise was created. But hey not all hope is gone there is going to be a series out of it.
That was very helpful, but I am wondering what the F Hollywood is thinking. I quiver with fear of the thought of Hollywood making an adaptation of Carole Wilkinson's Dragonkeeper series. Because they would F it up by casting non chinese actors for the parts, cgi the crap out of it instead of actually make the movie in China and of course pronounce the character names all wrong.
I remember in the 4th book, the buildup of the first 3 books plus the circumstances under which the event happened definitely Gave the ressurection of Kronos the impact of "Yeah, so we're completely fucked" The movie did the equivalent of Lord Voldermort getting resurrected by the philosophers stone in the first Harry Potter movie.
He kills Ron. Then he gets killed by Harry's wand (it was the elder wand all along!) right there in the room with the mirror, and Ron miraculously survived and now has a scar too! And Hermione gets bitten by the basilisk and is poisoned only to be healed by "sprayable Phoenix tears" that heal her up nice
Watching the Harry Potter movies and then reading the books is an experience. Watching the Percy Jackson movies and then reading the books is *life changing.*
I know right? Probably the only good thing about the Lightning thief movie was it got me to read the books. I saw it for the first time in high school and I thought it was alright, and I needed books to read for English and they were spectacular. And when sea of monsters was coming out after I read all the books. I completely understood fans reasons for hating them. Now I don’t think these films are god awful. But comparing them to their respective books is not even close!
"We are approaching levels of incompetence that should not be possible" is honestly such a great summary of theese movies. I don't know if I ever heard somebody describe it better
And to make matters worse Chronos didn’t appear in the fourth book for a reason because if he was fully resurrected it would be an automatic game over for the heroes. Him only possessing Luke already made him a nearly unbeatable opponent, if the titan had actually come back in his prime not even the Olympians would be able to stop him. The books made it clear that the gods needed a ton of help from other beings to defeat Chronos.
And not even help from heroes (cause they didn't exist yet) but rather from literal other god tier characters in the most obvious sense. Hundred handed ones, elder cyclopes, titans, nature spirits etc etc
@@jmurray1110 in a sense the hundred handed ones are younger/older in the case of one greek historian, brothers of Kronos so its kinda crazy they were just like yeah brodie we can do that for sure Zeus xD like I guess they were thinking anything is better than this, but what they got in return was not better than what they had really xD. Like yeah now youre gonna be guards in the prison you were in for the past oh idk since the beginning of time xD
Upon further inspection, that's one of the reasons why the Giants in heroes of Olympus don't seem quite as threatening as the Titans. Sure, Percy was able to battle guys like Hyperion and krios, but that was only when he had a lot of help, a terrain advantage, a few years experience and a few tricks that not even he fully understood. And the only reason they killed Kronos was because Luke killed himself before he could reform. And then there's the Giants, who are not only bigger but allegedly as strong, if not stronger. All of them are custom made to defeat a certain god and can only be killed by gods and demigods together. A supposed tough weakness, but apparently it doesn't matter which god helps kill them. And yes, I know that the prophecy kids are strong, but you expect me to believe that they killed the Giants after wading through an army with only their respective parents? And it didn't even take that much effort once the kids and parents started working together
@@owenmaleski2203 It’s because the Gigantes were actually considerably weak in Greek Mythology. They were defeated by the Gods much easier and quicker than the Titans ever could have been. The Titans (and the Gods) defeated Primordial-level threats, yet the Gigantes could never even beat Heracles. Plus, the Gigantes were dumber than the Titans too. They didn’t have as varied of powers as the Titans and never had the strategic logic to have children to swell their numbers. Legitimately the only thing that ever made them a threat was that Demigods had to aid the Gods to defeat them, so the Gods had to find a Demigod capable of defeating immortals and keep that Demigod alive.
so true story here, I never read any of the books before watching this movie when it came out and I legit thought Percy and Clarisse actually got together based on how little chemisty he had with Annabeth and how much chemistry he had with Clarisse then i found out how different the books were and I got shocked
@@typo1345Bro, my autistic ass was more appalled by the inconsistencies of the film to even think that there was chemistry between Percy and Clarisse, and the moment it was acknowledged in the video, I immediately gagged
You know, Percy's reaction to Tyson 'dying' when he's only known him since a few days felt even more legitimate than Percy's reaction to Sally 'dying' when she was literally the first and oldest and most caring person in his life. These movies, I'm telling you-
Let me try my hand at what they would have done: hunters? Bichs who whine about men, our fav red head? A bich who does nother but trying to kiss Percy and nico and his sister?Two kids that don’t do nothing
I’m surprised I don’t really see this being mentioned but that weird tension between Percy and Clarisse is evidently the writers trying to make your typical YA Love Triangle out of relationships that weren’t there in the book as that was the big thing at the time, Hunger Games & Divergent being the most famous examples of this, with the idea also probably stemming from the original merging and then splitting of the 2 characters as it’s not hard to imagine Percy ending up with Clarisse or having to choose between her and Annabeth at some point in the future if the films had continued past this disaster.
In school we read the book the lightning thief. Then afterward we watched the movie and my teacher handed out a sheet and told us to see if we could write down as many mistakes and changes as possible. Multiple pages were filled
Bro same. We had an assignment on Literature class to pick a book that has a movie adaptation and point out every inaccuracies and mistake the movie made. It was ok for multiple people to pick the same. Since all of us were task to read Percy Jackson at the beginning of the school year. All of us picked Percy Jackson. Our teacher had fun reading our assignments and gave us all A+ for how *creative* our writing is about the mistakes and inaccuracies of the movie.
One thing that wasn’t mentioned that PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH is that half of the feats Grover mentioned that Clarisse did are actually short stories from the books that Percy actually did. The Ares Chariot was Clarisse AND Percy, with Clarisse actually needing Percy’s help. The Bronze Dragon Quest refers to Festus, Leo’s dragon from Heroes of Olympus that Leo tamed, with no help from anyone else. So that means that the writers were at least aware of these short stories, they just decided not to actually read them.
@@enderfrags808 that’s the story where both the mymekes and Festus originally showed up. Festus returned in the Lost Hero and the Myrmekes in Trials of Apollo book 1 (I’m tired and can’t remember the name).
What ticks me off is that they name-drop the adventures from the Demigod Files, which I absolutely loved, but they f*** it up anyways. First, those all take place between books 4 and 5, and all showcase elements that haven’t been introduced yet. Second, Clarisse only shows up in one of those: the stolen chariot. Third, in that one, Percy helps Clarisse (who begrudgingly accepts his help) to recover Area’s chariot and to prove herself to her father. Putting aside the character development that hasn’t happened yet this far in the movie, Percy willingly lets Clarisse take the credit because a) she’s proving herself to her father and can’t let him know she got help and b) he just wanted to help a friend. He didn’t *want* credit; he just saw someone in need and helped them. That’s why this whole “one-quest wonder” bit falls so short for me: Percy doesn’t *care* about that stuff. In the Sea of Monsters book, Percy actually notes that he’s happy they didn’t get any credit for the quest.
One thing I’m surprised that you didn’t point out is that Annabeth recognizing Ethan Nacamura, one, ruins his character being son of a minor god, two also wrecks them making a Battle of the Labyrinth sequel, and doesn’t even make sense because Annabeth never knew him until the fourth book. Wow, two books ruined out of one single line.
So someone that I know was like “I like Percy Jackson, how about you, Maria?” and I was like “The books? Yes. The movies? Absolutely NOT.” and then she was like “Oh. I didn’t know there were books. I was talking about the movies.” I WAS SO CLOSE TO EXPLODING.
I legitimately wonder if they read the books whether or not they liked them more than the movies. They’re obviously better, but I’m curious if the stuff they changed and added in gave them unrealistic expectations about how the books are. They’re basically only alike in the title and character names
I watched the movies first and loved them, and because I enjoyed the movies, I got the books, and, I instantly hated the movies, and now have read all of Percy Jackson, Heroes of Olympus, and am starting The Kane Chronicles with multiple trials of Apollo books on my shelf
I think because at that time they don't expect the actors will fully train themselves to fit in their role. Unlike now, we see actors really train like Keanu Reeves and the rest of the MCU cast. And that's why I'm excited for the upcoming show and also afraid. For once buff women supremacy. Pls Disney do it for the sake of the buff women fanbase.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure in the book he couldn't control the water around Charybdis because she's also a child of Poseidon and Gaea and incredibly powerful. Her control was simply too strong for him to overcome at that point. I do like that those quests Grover was mentioning all sounded like references to the side books, but i think they're also all references to things that happen later on, after the second book. So ½ point.
That was funny. Its like walking up to a depressed person and telling them, unironically, to stop being sad. What was he hoping would happen with that!? It would be better if he had said "I talked to your dad, he wants to talk to you but is having trouble reaching out." It would have even been good prompting for Luke to say something to the extent of "the god of messengers is having trouble reaching out? Yeah, right."
I think the “mist” thing with Tyson’s eye was done because they didn’t want to spend the extra money and time animating his face, and also the cyclops eye would be weird to look at for two hours.
Also it sets up his insecurity in the movie, he wants to be like his peers, and percy may have complimented his human eyes which may be why he tried to use the mist out on the ocean. Also he looks better with the mist applied in the movie lol
I don’t think it would cost more, as the effect of one eye would only be in mythical places like Camp Half-Blood, and Polyphemus’s island. Every other place would probably be a human territory, meaning the mist would be there in every other place.
@@speakmore.13 but you forget, the movie doesn't care about the book so they turned the mist into an expensive beauty product that only the gods could afford
Forgot to mention Clarisse takes a picture of Grover in a wedding dress to show to her friends on social media. I remember from the novel and the films they’re not supposed to have Wi-Fi your social media in camp half blood. Also doesn’t camp half blood has a rival camp he didn’t mention it either.
My theory for why the ending is like that is this. The studio was losing faith in the movies, and despite having agreed to make more, they didn't want to commit either. So they made the choice that regardless of the fact that some stuff was meant to be important for the sequels, everything introduced in movie 2 had to pay off in movie 2. So they had to have the Cronos, Luke, and Prophecy stuff all wrap up in movie 2, so they didn't have to commit to a third movie to explain what happens next. Which meant a third movie could never happen anyway because... Reasons. But they still wanted the audience to know that a third movie could exist, despite clearly not wanting to commit to making a third movie... Honestly, no matter how you look at it... It's stupid.
I think so. My guess is they wanted whatever slim chance they could have for a 3rd movie without actually planning on it, and if they somehow got it they would pull a "somehow, Kronos has returned"
Five Percy Jackson movies to treasure forever feels like a better financial and moral investment. Not only you got five masterpiece films embraced by everyone except extreme purists, you got streaming licenses and home video sales and that's not even counting re-releases in theaters.
I bet you if they made a third one,they would have Nico and Bianca di Angelo as villains for being children of Hades.End then come up with some stupid reason how Thalia couldn’t be the child of the great prophecy,or make her nineteen.
Oh gods... they'd have definitely made Nico a villain, whether he turned evil after Bianca's death, or was evil the whole time, maybe a spy for Hades. Or... Nico's evil, Bianca's not, and... OH GODS THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE MADE NICO KILL BIANCA. Hang on, I have to go bleach that from my brain.
Not just that they probably would have made...dunno Zoe fall in love with Percy and intending to break her oath ore some stupid shit like that. Pan defenetly wouldnt be in it, and I shudder how they would have fucked up Artemis.
Took my sister to see the movie at the theater (because we had foolish hope). Yes this whole movie was dumb but during the brotherly hugging scene, I kept telling my sister "they can hug later. Get the fleece. Omg get the damn fleece."
15:44 A daughter of Atlas did NOT create Anaklusmos for Hercules. It was created by Atlas' wife Plione (not sure how to spell her name). Later she passed it down to her daughter Zoë who could hide it as her hair clip and was NOT supposed to give it to Heracles but she fell in love and did it anyway. Heracles later betrays her and doesn't return it to her. She was then disowned by Atlas for helping Heracles and that was the reason she hates men so much. Though it is unknown how Chiron got it but its story is the reason why Zoë had grudge on men and specially on Percy.
It's not unknown how Chiron got it, he tells Percy himself when he formally gives him the sword. He pulled a pen from his coat pocket and handed it to me. It was an ordinary disposable ballpoint, black ink, removable cap. Probably cost thirty cents. ‘Gee,’ I said. ‘Thanks.’ *‘Percy, that’s a gift from your father. I’ve kept it for years, not knowing you were who I was waiting for. But the prophecy is clear to me now. You are the one.’* It seems pretty clear to me that Poseidon gave Chiron the sword at some point.
I still remember my Mom taking me to see this movie in the theater back in 2013. Back then, I knew nothing about the book series or greek mythology in general. No joke, back in those days, I thought Poseidon and Neptune were the merman brothers who created the city of Atlantis.
I saw it on tv after reading the books and I thought it was half good I think I noticed some differences but oh well, but I only in the last few months realized how much I liked trash movies that I shouldn’t of liked, I liked the last air bender movie even, for f’s sake. Luckily I realized how bad The Maze Runner movie was with it’s problems after reading the book in class, and now know how bad those others were, pretty sure I just never thought about anything in regards to the story in the slightest with those movies until that The Maze Runner.
I also remember earlier that day, we were at a bookstore, I got my hands on a Spongebob Squarepants comic book and I had it with me while we where in the theater. In fact I still have that comic book to this day in my comic book collection.
@@pokegmystery2954 I enjoyed the first percy jackson film, the last air bender movie and the maze runner movie. But for all of them I watched the movies first and went on to enjoy the original even more.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Chiron was framed in this book to be the one that poisoned the tree and Percy does his super clever golden drachma trick to prove his innocence. That was one of my favorite parts of the book
Actually, there's evidence to suggest that they were originally going to use that plotline. Not only was Tantalus going to be in the first draft of the film, but they even cast Mark Hamill to play him. But then for whatever reason, they dropped it because I guess it would have been too accurate to the book
The thing about Dionysus is (and people always get this wrong), he is one of the younger olympians, only beaten by Hermes. If Hermes appears as in his late teens and early twenties, Dionysus is somewhere between 23-29 Edit: I know, his traditions go waaaay back, but in most Greek mythological canon, he was shown as a relatively young guy. They also keep him drunk since it’s said he would OVERTHROW OLYMPUS OSP does a really good video on it.
Something also is the scene where Dionysius copies exactly what AnnaBeth says word for word made me very mad because 1. He doesn’t care that much 2. He would think copying a mortal is beneath him
The return of Kronos in the books was meaningful, heart wrenching, painful, and sorrowful. Luke was carried out of the throne room by the fates themselves and Hermes was seconds too late to say goodbye to his son.
Can we all agree that the sneaking out cliché is a horrible thing for movies like this? Also, in the books he had a good motivation, like the mythology guy said. But they changed the motivation so that makes it bad
@@accidentalmadness1708 That’s what I was saying. With Grover in danger and Tantalus being spiteful they had to sneak out. In the first movie there was no reason for them to sneak out, it was so dumb.
Percy in the books: I didn't want to be a halfblood. It's scary. I just want peace. Please! No quests! Percy in movies: Oh dang it. I WANTED to put my life in danger during a quest for no reason.
He has some realy great moments, even in book 1 and 2 (the figth with Ares comes to mind imideatly), but in general yes. But then, with the third he grows more and more confident, cocky even, and more and more reckles until he gets older. Something like this maby: Percy in the book 3-5: I WILL to put my life in danger during a quest I may or may not be on. Dam(ed) should you all be! Percy in HoO 2: I don't know who I am, but I don't like this god, so I put my life in danger by standing up to him (literally)! And hey. There is a Quest. So let's put my life in danger even more! Percy in HoO 4: I will put my life in danger for Annabeth (and my friend, but mainly Annabeth)! Percy in HoO 5: Maby I should put my life less in danger and rely on the help my friends offer me! Percy in ToA 1: If I put my life in any more danger, Annabeth is gonna kill me! Percy in MC 3: I need to keep my life out of danger to care of my baby sister!
It baffles me how the directors went: "Look! We have a perfectly balanced story in five books with great characters and a big fanbase that can no make this franchise into the next Harry Potter. Let's throw it in the garbage and do it over!"
When they made Riptide the Cursed Blade in this movie, I legit rage at the fact they not only deliberately got the fact that it was Annabeth’s dagger Luke gave her, COMPLETELY wrong, they also took a fat steaming dump on the most beautifully done and emotionally written scenes at the ending of Last Olympian.
The scenes that subvert all of your expectations, make you feel genuine sorrow and regret for a villain, and force you to question all your preconceived notions of morality and destiny ? Yeah, those are the scenes that this movie did not care for. Great
@@GreatOldOne9866 I really don't like most of Disney's productions nowadays, but at least they do sometimes churn out some really good stuff (unlike Amazon). So with that in mind, and between the people chosen to be the main writers and the fact that they are working closely with Riordan, I find myself to be a lot more optimistic than I would have expected ^^
I guess maybe Riptide may have been cursed when it was owned by Heracles(who forgot all about the Hesperides) but there's no guarantee THAT backstory got into the film.
I am extremely disappointed that you didn't point out how they claimed that the sea of monsters "wasn't in Poseidon's domain" to explain Percy being unable to use his powers, but then the water is able to heal Tyson later because he is a "son of Poseidon." So is it not in Poseidon's domain or is Poseidon really just being a dick to Percy 🤨
23:52 I know Selena Beauregard was a big part of the confusion, but they also added Ethan Nakamura, who wasn’t even in the series till the fourth book and we first see Selena in the titans curse book like physically and not just mentioned the only character out of those three that actually was in the book Sea of monsters was Chris Rodriguez
I watch the Percy Jackson movies when I'm misserable so I can feel more misserable because when I'm at rock bottom the only way is up. Like when I failed an important test I watch the PJ movies to feel worse which in turn makes me feel better. That's all they do for me. They make me go "I might be a failure but at least I'm not the PJ movies"
@HannahBanana sure some things are changed but it’s like have you been living under a rock out of Percy Jackson who’s movies are so bad that literally the Arthur of the book series hates them and the Harry Potter movies are loved and the Arthur loves
What gets me is that Luke's crossbow has a godsdamned gatling gun barrel on it, but he fires one "dramatic" shot and that's literally it. It also barely even registers when Tyson jumps in front of it, as if they couldn't be bothered to make that look cool.
16:00 slight correction, Chiron DID say in the first book (Chapter 10) that the sword was a GIFT from percy's father, and that Chiron has kept it safe all those years. So there IS a connection to Poseidon, just not the connection showed in the movie
I think that Annabeth recognizing Ethan and Silena might be the thing I hate the most in this movie. Silena because her plot in the 5th book is huge, it has a massive impact on the story and is extremely compelling. Ethan because she probably shouldn't recognize him in the first place, the whole point of his character is that the minor gods and their children are completely ignored and tossed aside, even though he's the son of Nemesis he's basically just considered another Hermes kid. Having him be so easily recognizable just seems to ignore the entire point of him being treated as insignificant and forgettable.
Plus Ethan being with them already by the second movie is gonna make it really weird if he manages to take another 2 books to actually pledge himself to their side.
I recently started reading thr books because of you, only on book 3 right now, but loving it so far. honestly when I pictured Clarisse, I pictured someone built like Luisa from Encanto, so I was really shocked when I saw her in the movie.
Not to mention that for some reason they thought that suddenly turning Annabeth blonde like she should have been would actually gloss over all the other bs 10:24 Tyson be like "Dude I can *hear* you
So, I’ve read the books a while ago, but as far as I remember, there was a whole thing about not looking at the gods in their divine forms because it would kill you. In the fifth book from my memory, there is a mention that it’s even worse with Titans, as merely being in their presence while they’re in divine form would kill you. And yet Percy is standing there just fine while fighting Kronos. Accurate to the books my butt
@@matthewhelland9258 Are you sure about that? As far as I remember any god/titan could vaporise any mortal by having them look at their true form. As stated in the Rick Riordan Wiki "The Divine Form is the true immortal form of the gods in which all of their essence is in one place. Looking upon a god in this state will incinerate and destroy any mortal onlooker. Titans also have a divine form, which differs from that of the Olympians in that they are able to destroy mortal beings simply by being in their very presence.".
@@spyling800 A wiki is not the source material. I'm not saying that mortals don't die from looking at the gods, only that Kronos is the only titan confirmed powerful enough to kill you with his mere presence.
@@matthewhelland9258 then how about when Jason was killed by Hera's true form in The lost hero, or when Percy worries that Artemis Will kill him by transforming in The titans curse, or even actual greek mythology where Zeuses lover Semele is tricked by Hera to see Zeuses true form and is thus vaporised leaving only the unborn Dionysos?
I think I found a credible theory to why Poseidon never responded. Percy was talking to a freshwater lake, but Tyson knows that Poseidon isn't Achelous
Didn't Poseidon talked to Percy in that same lake in the first movie when Percy fought with Annabeth and was badly wounded so his father called him over to the water. Plus I think Poseidon talked to him in the motel pool as well. The continuity errors in these movies is uncanny.
The Chariot of Ares, at least, was a quest that Clarisse and Percy did together in a short story. Ironic, because Percy was vital to the quest succeeding.
@@natasjarose1321 I don’t think it’s after book 4 because remember the start of the stolen chariot was percy learning in school, and percy was kicked out of school in book 4 because of the whole exploding room thing, and I dont think there is enough time for percy to enroll to a new school between book 4 and 5 because of the limited amount of time between book 4 and 5
I was ripping my hair out by the end of this movie. I read every Percy Jackson, Heroes of Olympus and Trials of Apollo book and then this MONSTROSITY came out.
You know, I think the Percy Jackson books are a masterful exercise in the reversal of cliches, the books lull you into believing a cliched plotline but then suddenly spring a much more exciting and unpredictable resolution to the story than you could've imagined and that's a big factor of what makes the series as a whole unique and fun, the movies on the other hand are an exercise of the exact opposite nature, where every cliche and trope must turn out exactly how you expect it to, that's why Percy is the hero of the prophecy, Riptide is the cursed blade and Luke is the stupid evil villain. It's like taking everything that makes the books so brilliant and turning it onto it's head for achieving the same old Hollywood movie. What a disappointment.
I don't think it was meant to be accurate though. It was meant to hold people's attention. And most people don't like history or myths because it requires reading so they probably figured that even if they got things wrong with the myth the audience wouldn't notice because they don't care for them in the first place. They wouldn't even know that they got things wrong because they never knew it to begin with.
@@Dino-god69 the books built it's villains so well. the first time I've read the lighting thief, I lost my sleep for days because Cronos terrified me so much. and the book didn't even showed him. he was literally just there, in cut in pieces, in the bottom of a cliff, and it let me absolutely terrified.
Same The book frequently shifts over to Grover's perspective in Polyphemus' cave, reminding you that he was in danger This film had absolutely no sense of danger, and I was very disappointed at the inconsistency
To be fair there was a bit in the book where Percy was embarrassed by his simple mindedness. And it becomes a bit of embarrassment between them. Also I recall addition to Grover Percy assumed he'd be picked for this mission because he's a Poisidon kid and it's the SEA of Monsters.
Fun fact about Circeland, it was filmed on an actual abandoned amusement park, Six Flags New Orleans, which had been destroyed by Hurricane Katrina and is a very popular place for abandoned theme park explorers to visit despite it being illegal to do so.
Can we also mention Luke literally just got his ass kicked a few years ago by Percy mainly using a bunch of fresh water? So he felt it was smart to jump in after Percy onto the ocean... chasing down Perseus, the son of Poseidon, God of the SEA, on the S E A. It's like Luke was suicidal. Like, sure, Percy should be strong enough to sink the Andromeda if it's THAT small, but it's still far safer then jumping into the ocean with him! Fuck if Percy wanted he literally could've snatched him right then and there and drowned his ass with no issue whatsoever
The most frustrating part of Kronos' resurrection was that in the book it was stressed that if he ever took his true form then it would disintegrate all mortals in a 5 mile vicinity of him. This was revealed in the 5th book to Percy in a suspenseful yet humorous way with Dionysus telling Percy in an arcade. In THIS movie, however, he's just very tall. He doesn't even try to control time while being attacked by that stupid blade. 😡
@@maritofuentes4690 in the books it's essentially combined together. And SPOILERS: . . . . . . . . . . Kronos can't actually take his true physical form in the books, and instead has to possess Luke's body. He uses a scythe and has time magic.
My only defense of this movie is: the Daughter of Ares was excited by the assault on the Camp because the writers (of the film) didn't think we understood that she is *the daughter of freaking ARES!*
@@lucassiders7309 yes i know Ares is the God of war, I've looked into it and i believe its Mars i was referring to, the Roman variation, who is sometimes depicted as a God of hunting who carries an axe, probably because roman soldiers would also turn their hand to farming
29:42 Come to think of it, if they didn’t have Circe’s island, how were they ever going to develop further than the Percy Jackson’s, they couldn’t have gone into the Heroes of Olympuses because in Son of Neptune they have Reyna and Hylla from Circe’s island, how were they going to do that if Circe’s island never happened? I also just realised that they had Chiron in the movie, when it should have been the ghost of Tantalus after Thalia’s tree (which was poisoned before Percy came to camp) was poisoned, because then I think the gods thought he was losing his touch or something, so banished him from Camp Half-Blood, he went to live with his centaur kin, and that is how we are introduced to the Party Ponies
I feel like the aging up may be part of the reason Clarisse is so weird in this movie. In the book she had a very "Middle School Bully" kind of vibe and obviously there was more to her than that and she develops as the books progress but in the first book especially she's just kind of a bully and that's not something you can pull off when your characters are upper teenagers played by twenty-somethings and also the same age (if I recall it's implied Clarisse is older than Percy).
I’ve stopped tryna figure out her age, in tlt she’s described as ‘maybe 13 or 14’ but in the stolen chariot it’s implied that it’s her fifteenth birthday or sometime around that and I think it takes place before botl which would make her the same age as Percy idk honestly
@@YuriPlisetskyKinnie nah clarisse is older than percy because I remember that in HoO, Clarisse was at college when the lost hero trio arrived, and if I remember correctly percy was still 16 years old in the lost hero
@@YuriPlisetskyKinnie then where was she in the lost hero? Because I remember clarisse was not there when jason, leo, and piper arrived at CHB, that’s why she was so startled with festus
@@merlinrecon7528 I don’t think she was startled by festus, I think she was protecting the other campers because until that point Festus had been burning and destroying things
If they'd done any kind of book-related set up, "You'd do it for me" would have worked, because in the book, Percy did sacrifice his social life and standing by being Tyson's friend and standing up for him against bullies. He then did the same at Camp Half-Blood, even when it strained his relationship with Annabeth and his other pre-existing friends. The books showed Percy as the ultimate Ride-Or-Die friend, and that's why Tyson was willing to go all out to protect him in return. Also, when Tyson was presumed dead following Clarisse's ship blowing up, Percy was genuinely devastated. Here, Tyson is a new acquaintance at best and has been an active hindrance at worst. There's call for Percy to feel guilty for NOT being upset that Tyson is no longer drawing attention or dropping important things at the least convenient moment, but we've seen nothing that actually sets Tyson up as being important to Percy. You know, typing that makes me realise how much this movie did both Percy and Tyson dirty. Their bond as found family before they discovered they were actual family was one of the best things about the book, and mythical creatures age slower than humans, so while Tyson does have moments of surprising insight and clarity, his simpler moments are explained by the fact that he's essentially the equivalent of a six-year-old, offset by being a Cyclops. He prayed to Poseidon, who sent him an older brother in Percy, which was a great example of Poseidon caring, but being unable to intervene directly. Poseidon knew Percy well enough to know that he would stand up for Tyson, and that Sally Jackson would go out of her way to help however she could, giving Tyson something like a family.
7:20 Grover is referencing the stories form the Demigod Files. However those stories did not happen during the sea of monsters. They happened after battle of the labyrinth while Percy was in school/at camp. But hey, do I expect the writers to know that? The stolen chariot was when Clarisse was allowed to borrow her father’s chariot when her half brothers, Deimos and Phobos, stole it from her and Percy helps her to get it back. It was not just Clarisse and it showcased their weird bond. The bronze dragons quest didn’t even have Clarisse in it. The crew was Percy, Annabeth, Silena, and Beckendorf. It’s about a game of capture the flag, when they find the mermekes, dragging a giant robot dragon head into their den. They go to investigate, but then Beckendorf gets captured and they have to save him. The bronze dragon supposedly goes on to be festus. It included some of the romances between the characters too. So yeah. Percy DID do some of those things. Though I don’t know what a Fall tournament or a solstice game is as they weren’t in the demigod files or demigod diaries.
I think the solstice game is a reference to capture the flag between campers and hunters of artemis. But the fall tournament is a weird thing to add because percy isn’t even a year rounder camper, he’s not in camp at fall
My uncle was the special effects producer for this film and he knew I was a fan of the books and he literally told me not to watch it 😅☹️ he also told me that one of the most expensive things in the movie was the cholchis bull, and that they planned to make two but it was so expensive to make that one that they were like nah
I'm wondering why he didn't think that could be the reason why there weren't two. He said that he liked the Cholchis Bull because of how good it looked but didn't seem to consider how expensive it would be to make it look like that. Or how much it would cost to make two. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, movies would be far better if money wasn't an issue.
Honestly a cut like that for time, budget, etc I understand especially since really the Bulls purpose was not just for an action scene but also to showcase to Percy (and the audience) the danger camp halfblood is facing and Tyson wasn’t exactly what he seemed as well as his abilities as a cyclops….. in the book.
You also missed the part where after saying the sea of monsters isn’t Poseidon’s domain (sea god, sea of monsters, ok then) he’s still able to use his powers while fighting Luke on the boat and to rock the ship
I'm honestly surprised he didn't rip apart the entire fight scene with Kronos. They butchered him as badly as Hades in the first one. Kronos doesn't normally eat people, he ate his children out of paranoia over a prophecy. He's not a magma monster thing with horns he looks like a god but big, with golden eyes, and an aura that can kill any mortal or half-blood around him. How did they take such a cool character and reduce him to this generic thing. Same way as with Hades I guess.
You detailing the strange would-be ship between Percy and Clarisse in this movie is one of the most accurate and disturbing summaries of this movie. It’s the writers absolutely reworking the source material into what they think was best and perverting it into something it was never meant to be, whether the intention was to build on it or not.
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The movie reminds me of the halo TV show where we thought they listened to us but turns out, they learned very little
You gloss over the best line
get off my roof
Wooooooooo a afile movie Yay
You also mention Pokémon in one of your videos I would like to know what your favorite is but of course you don’t have to respond
"You guys didn't follow the books"
"There were books?"
"Yes! They're based off Greek Mythology!"
"Greece has mythology???"
Greece exists 😱
Omg shut imma retcon greece real quick
The writers and the producers watching this video.
Greece is a real place??
🤣🤣🤣🤣
To quote something I found on the internet: “The bar was so low, it was practically a tripping hazard in hell, but here you are, limbo dancing with the devil.”
Who said that
@@Ilovemusic6584 unfortunately i can't find the original person, but it has floated around on the internet for a while and to not say i didn't come up with this amazing line felt wrong
@@tijnspruit8973 Oh. Okay. Got it. You know, I kinda feel like thats something the nostalgia critic would say honestly.
That’s amazing.
that’s gay as hell
In the book, Tyson wasn't simple-minded, he was a literal child. He was physically around 15 when we met him, but because of the way cyclopes age, he was literally a toddler
Kick the big baby
He was more a 5 year old because he can walk and talk
@@timjim-ks8gi Yeah. Like I said, a toddler
@@timjim-ks8gi probably more like 7.5 years old
@@po-tay-toe I’m pretty sure they said, he was an 8 year old
"Our expectations were on the ground, but Hollywood brought a shovel."
That might just be one of the best lines I've ever heard.
No Comments Wth
Pretty fire bars there
Innit 😂
“You know, the Christians have a guy who can do this trick in reverse. Now That’s a god!”
I haven’t watched this movie since it was in theaters (and really, who can blame me), but I gotta admit that’s a pretty clever line.
He actually pours another glass of wine and says "That such a good year." He is the best part of this movie.
I also liked how he looks like the stereotypical “hungover worst uncle that thinks he is the coolest”. That and the leopard shirt.
Those things surprisingly work
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos
Yeah I'm kind of disappointed they couldn't get him back for the series though Jason Mantzoukas will probably do great
Same here. That was the one thing I remembered about this movie all these years later
Must have forgotten that part. Mine was Nathan Fillion(Mercury)'s reference to firefly:
Tyson: 'Hercules kicks butt'?
Mercury: It was the best show ever...So of course it was cancelled!
I think Poseidon is more accurately described in spongebob than in this film.
lol so true
He was actually bald?
@@AkameGaKillfan777 i was more intending the one depicted from the series not the movie
The King in spongebob name is actually king Neptune
@@GOJIKOTM3 yes but i believe Neptune in Roman Mythology and Poseidon in greek mythology are the same person. Also in one episode of spongebob there is an arguement between two fish of whether he is Poseidon or Neptune
Tyson tried to reapply the mist because he knew the Cyclops cgi was awful
LMFAOO
True
he was secretly apart of the budgeting crew and knew they couldnt do it much longer
S T O P-
Literally what I was thinking.
I'm honestly so relieved that they decided to end it there because I could not have been able to stomach seeing them ruining Nico and Zoë
Nico would get merged with Bianca.
I wonder how they would’ve handled Nico and Will lmao. “Oh no they’re just really good friends!” “They’re COUSINS that’s why they care about each other so much!! Just like Achilles and Patroclus!”
Oh god, don’t make me think of the horrible possibilities.
@@mythos2490 Analogy backfire much? My Ancient Greece/Rome professor said it was likely Achilles and Patroclus were a gay couple...oh.
God them butchering a well written character why would they ever do that *cough*
Something that personally broke my mind was:
They obviously wanted to make sequels.
They had Chronos backstab Luke at first opportunity.
How can anyone expect Luke to be so moronic that he would be like "Well, the Titan that I have been working to resurrect back stabbed me immediately. That really sucked. Welp. Time to get back to plotting more ways to resurrect Chronos."
You mean Kronos. Chronos was the god of the time.
@@GothPaoki that’s just writing differences-I’ve seen Chronos, kronos, and I think Cronus too. It’s a bet hard when they are reading Ancient Greek- for all we know it could be sandyoukius lol
@@carsoneck1812 it's not just writing difference. They're not even spelled the same. Chronos is read like Hro-nos.
Ancient Greeks also often confused these two but they're two different things. Kronos is a titan that is associated with time and chronos is described as a 3 headed personification of time
@@GothPaoki oh that’s cool sorry
@@GothPaoki I think they meant cronos..The titan has a few spellings being cronos, cronus, kronos. It’s complicated like all mythos are
I have a simple phrase to describe the movie adaptations of Percy Jackson:
"They f*cked up the plot so bad that they can't even make any more sequels - not because of disapproval or usage rights, but because the plot just doesn't exist now."
Other movie companies: Did we learn from the horrendous movies?
*Makes about a trillion terrible live actions to pump out money*
"N O P E"
@@girlleavemealone--*cough* Disney *cough*
Yeah it was bad, I didn't even know they made a second movie. The had way to much from the later books in the first movie
@@girlleavemealone-- Still better than any realistic fiction piece!
We see the plot, and we reject it's existence. - Writers
My class actually read the first Percy Jackson book as an assignment from our teacher and we loved the book and after we finished reading it we watched the movie and hated it so much we actually tried to make a Percy Jackson school play that would actually be accurate to the books
I fucking love you and your teacher for this. How did the play go
You know there's a musical
@@kylejohnson3889 It went pretty well and for a play made by middle schoolers it was better than you would think
@@notadoctor5889 I bet it was way better than the movies that’s for damn sure. And more accurate too
$500 that it was better then the movie and the did not have CGI
For those who havent read the book, the reason Tyson was able to get through the barrier:
When Tyson saw Percy in danger battling the Colchis bulls, he fought tooth and nail against the barrier, crying "Percy needs help!" trying to help his friend, and Annabeth, in a moment of desperation, grants him permission to enter camp (the only way monsters can enter the barrier is if given permission), and he's able to rush in and join the fight against the bulls
As TH-camr Morgan Ross aka MovieFlame pointed out, Tyson being able to enter camp could have also been used to explain the failing camp barrier, which again displays the incompetence of the screenwriter.
Him just saying "grab the golden fleece, just grab it. Grab it. Just grab it." Was way funnier to me than it shouldve been lol.
oh no look what happened if only there was some way we could’ve prevented this 😑
So anyway cronus dies in like 2 milliseconds
it made me laugh too
I actually fell asleep while watching this video and I woke up to him saying grab it grab it grab it grab it. I legit thought that I imagined that💀💀
Yeah
"I know this isn't a very well known thing or anything but POSEIDON USES A TRIDENT!" Got me absolutely cackling 😂
"It's literally staring you right in the face!" xDDDD
i got hit with nostalgia critic levels of anger here and it was the best!
I died 😂😂😂
That shouldn't have been so funny to me, I started choking and my mom asked if I was okay 😭
@@minrak4780 If you want more of that, I recommend checking out Hello Future Me's two and a half hours video titled "The Last Airbender is the Worst Film Ever Made - HERE'S WHY" ^^
To be fair, a lot of the sexual tension between Percy and Clarisse is due mostly to them making Annabeth basically Clarisse in the first movie and so Clarisse kind of takes over Annabeth’s role as a result. They kinda ducked themselves with that :/
Yeah and maybe just a theorie but maybe the actors had something together
Cue the Cloud line from his smash bros reveal trailer, "I'd never thought I'd see the day.....Where they shipped Percy and Clarisse."
@@LinktheCommunistWaifu I read the first book and she absolutely hated Percy but in this she acts like she has a crush on him
Me and my friends have a theory that the actor for Annabeth actually read the book, because in the first movie she looks like she’s actually trying to make the movie good, but in the Sea of Monsters she just…. Gives up
Daddario has expressed enthusiasm for the Disney+ series and has good acting credibility elsewhere. I put the blame squarely on 20th Century Fox and Thor Freudenthal.
Damn that’s depressingly probable
Can we just talk about the fact that the biggest victim of this production was the poor girl who was casted for Thalia? She was probably a big fan of the books, an up and coming young and ambitious actress, just landed a HUGE role for a HUGE franchise in a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, had to settle for 10 total seconds of screen time knowing that she would get her time to shine in the later 3 books and possibly more… and none of that happened. I feel terrible for her
Remember when kids get casted as a tree in school plays? At least they're there.
@@ChimeraMK 💀
@@ChimeraMK That reminded me of Diary of a Wimpy Kid. In it a play is showed and one of the characters plays as a literal BUSH
@@GDnewbie that kid playing games in the bush ended up killing his mom & his sister found his mom's body.
i just hope they payed her something lol
Poseidon is the god of the seas. Seas. Not lakes.
Why does Percy think he can talk to Pop Pop by talking to what is basically a glorified puddle? Not to mention, in the books, the Camp was literally on the ocean. Like, it literally had a beach. Go like five hundred yards West, Percy, and maybe you can get a response.
He probably thought it would work because it worked in the first one
EXACTLY
@@anna-flora999 yes they couldn't even get the consistency right lmao
@@anna-flora999 but then why wouldn't he try again?
Glorified puddle fucking killed me
This is like if it turned out in the 3rd Harry potter film that Sirius Black was actually trying to kill Harry all year but failed to do so because of imcompetense, and in the squeaking shack it is revealed that Sirius and Snape were great friends at school and that's why Snape was helping Sirius infiltrate Hogwarts. They then proceed to summon Voldemort in the shack, but as everybody knows Harry is brave so he manages to kill Voldemort with the elderwand which was hiding in the golden snitch. Then you thought it was over but before leaving the school for the summer holiday Harry is called into Dumbledores office, it turns out Albus is dying and he reveals to Harry that Voldemort is not dead but had these things called Horcruxes.
The end
Lol
To be fair, that wouldn't make the Harry Potter Story any less holey
@@anna-flora999 i feel like it would make it a BIT more holey, but that might just be me
@@sarahmorris4575 maybe a bit, but it would likely make the entire thing a good bit shorter. So, same amount of holes, just more concentrated
you forgot where it was revealed that Lupin was Harry's godfather
I will forever be salty that we don’t have a good Percy Jackson adaptation that has Nathan Fillion as Hermes and Stanley Tucci as Dionysus. Those are perfect casting choices
“I will forever be salty” do I *sea* an unintentional pun?
Yes, the movies gave the script writer em as an *ANEMONE*
tbf tho Lin Manuel Miranda and Jason Mantzoukas do give off the same vibe as their characters did in the books, I'm cool with their casting
Pretty much all the adult castings are perfect. Sean Bean as Zeus, Kevin McKidd as Poseidon, Steve Coogan as Hades. So much wasted potential.
Luke in the books: one smart and scary SoB, yet still a tragic character.
Luke in the movie: DUUUUUUH I reveal my plans to Percy, ride on his sea wave and let Kronos eat me!
Luke’s character has to be my most hated character in this movie because of this. Being a thief means you really have to be smart, and the way Luke strategically tried to start a war amongst the Gods all while subliminally helping Kronos go free had to be one of the best written plots ever for the book!
Only for us to get this guy in the movie.
@@tracyjacquet1902 yep, they really botched the son of Hermes in this movie.
yup Kronos eat me and i still help him cuz im a noob dumbass its good RIGHT yea its good
But he’s not able to walk on water! He’s not a son of Jesus!
I’d love to see a fight between Movie and Book Luke. Mainly cuz i know who’d win and Id laugh HARD at movie Luke’s face that he got beaten by a child.
Finally, the long wait is over. This is gonna be really good. And F TH-cam’s copyright system. It was probably hacked by Kronos or something.
Either Kronos or Gaea, or just TH-cam being annoying again
TH-cam has gone down the shitter recently. #youtubesideswithhate
Titans are pretty good at adapting to new technology to hack
I mean Kronos does have a lot of time to hack them, so it is likely.
We wish Kronos was behind this
"Our expectations were on the ground before it came out, and Hollywood brought a shovel." Yes. Thank you. EXACTLY.
At the end of this year's school year, my school put this movie on for the entire school in our auditorium. Every Percy Jackson fan wanted to die the entire time. I heard several groans and sighs of disappointment. We all hated the experience and we all hated the school for it.
Rick Riordan himself actually wrote a letter for teachers on why it is bad to show the films to kids.
Buddy, I think that they tried to torture y'all
@@Spacey_key I I'm starting to think that just might have been their goal...
Why didn't they at least show Hercules?
@@jeffreygao3956 idk man. That would've been way better.
I do like it when Luke says "Hey. Don't walk on my roof." Like he just sounds so fed up like this happens all the damn time.
One of the best lines and one of the few good lines in both movies combined
I definitely think the second was way better than the first. That’s not saying much but it’s definitely funnier and more accurate
I like to think people are just walking on the roof all the time and Luke is like what are you doing
@@salem-01 not really it isn't very accurate lol
@@salem-01 you say it’s more accurate when the somehow managed to free kronos in it that’s at least -100 continuity points
You know what’s sad the character of Percy Jackson was actually passed on Rick’s son, his son had ADHD alongside with Dyslexia and he didn’t like to read or write in school so he didn’t do his homework but then one day his son became fascinated in Greek Mythology in his school and started learning more about the myths and even played Hades in his school play, Rick read stories about Greek mythology to his son every night before his bedtime one day Rick ran out of stories to tell so then one day Rick made his own fictional story about Percy Jackson the sea of monsters just for his son then he showed it to his seventh grade students and they loved it, Rick wanted to publish it to a editor after some time he got an editor who was interested in his books and loved it so then they fully published it back in 2006 and voila The Percy Jackson franchise was created.
But hey not all hope is gone there is going to be a series out of it.
Well, Haley Riordan's not gonna sue Fox for character assassination because he's got his daddy's brains.
Now that I think of it it’s a sweet story that just makes the movies seem worse now
@@shreyatries2animate yup Rick must’ve been pissed as hell considering he put a lot of love into his life’s work.
That's wholesome as fuck.
That was very helpful, but I am wondering what the F Hollywood is thinking. I quiver with fear of the thought of Hollywood making an adaptation of Carole Wilkinson's Dragonkeeper series. Because they would F it up by casting non chinese actors for the parts, cgi the crap out of it instead of actually make the movie in China and of course pronounce the character names all wrong.
"Tyson gets seasick. Which is funny, since he's the son of POSEIDON"
Well, canonically, Thalia Grace, daughter or Zeus, is afraid of heights
Ayyyyyyyyy I share a fear with her!
@@averyfields8183 fear of heights gang 😎
But that's a phobia, not a physiological medical condition.
@@natasjarose1321 right
@@natasjarose1321 And it's an important part of her character development. And also children of Zeus don't automatically fly
I remember in the 4th book, the buildup of the first 3 books plus the circumstances under which the event happened definitely Gave the ressurection of Kronos the impact of "Yeah, so we're completely fucked"
The movie did the equivalent of Lord Voldermort getting resurrected by the philosophers stone in the first Harry Potter movie.
He kills Ron. Then he gets killed by Harry's wand (it was the elder wand all along!) right there in the room with the mirror, and Ron miraculously survived and now has a scar too! And Hermione gets bitten by the basilisk and is poisoned only to be healed by "sprayable Phoenix tears" that heal her up nice
@@typo1345 So…does this Luna Lovegood dress like Sailor Moon?
Watching the Harry Potter movies and then reading the books is an experience.
Watching the Percy Jackson movies and then reading the books is *life changing.*
You forgot lord of the rings lol. They fit somewhere in those.
I know right? Probably the only good thing about the Lightning thief movie was it got me to read the books. I saw it for the first time in high school and I thought it was alright, and I needed books to read for English and they were spectacular. And when sea of monsters was coming out after I read all the books. I completely understood fans reasons for hating them. Now I don’t think these films are god awful. But comparing them to their respective books is not even close!
for me HP was an exeption, i read the first four in a row in less than 2 days, then the first movie kek
@@TheGodshatter I mean while they cut a lot of things from the Books, the movies are a cinematic masterpiece of Fantasy that has not been repeated.
@@deathstar6998 true. And that's why they fit somewhere in those two lol
"We are approaching levels of incompetence that should not be possible" is honestly such a great summary of theese movies. I don't know if I ever heard somebody describe it better
And to make matters worse Chronos didn’t appear in the fourth book for a reason because if he was fully resurrected it would be an automatic game over for the heroes. Him only possessing Luke already made him a nearly unbeatable opponent, if the titan had actually come back in his prime not even the Olympians would be able to stop him. The books made it clear that the gods needed a ton of help from other beings to defeat Chronos.
Yeah on top of all the gods and Cyclopes to not be at a state mate they needed to enlist the monsterously strong hecetonceries
And not even help from heroes (cause they didn't exist yet) but rather from literal other god tier characters in the most obvious sense. Hundred handed ones, elder cyclopes, titans, nature spirits etc etc
@@jmurray1110 in a sense the hundred handed ones are younger/older in the case of one greek historian, brothers of Kronos so its kinda crazy they were just like yeah brodie we can do that for sure Zeus xD like I guess they were thinking anything is better than this, but what they got in return was not better than what they had really xD. Like yeah now youre gonna be guards in the prison you were in for the past oh idk since the beginning of time xD
Upon further inspection, that's one of the reasons why the Giants in heroes of Olympus don't seem quite as threatening as the Titans. Sure, Percy was able to battle guys like Hyperion and krios, but that was only when he had a lot of help, a terrain advantage, a few years experience and a few tricks that not even he fully understood. And the only reason they killed Kronos was because Luke killed himself before he could reform. And then there's the Giants, who are not only bigger but allegedly as strong, if not stronger. All of them are custom made to defeat a certain god and can only be killed by gods and demigods together. A supposed tough weakness, but apparently it doesn't matter which god helps kill them. And yes, I know that the prophecy kids are strong, but you expect me to believe that they killed the Giants after wading through an army with only their respective parents? And it didn't even take that much effort once the kids and parents started working together
@@owenmaleski2203 It’s because the Gigantes were actually considerably weak in Greek Mythology. They were defeated by the Gods much easier and quicker than the Titans ever could have been. The Titans (and the Gods) defeated Primordial-level threats, yet the Gigantes could never even beat Heracles.
Plus, the Gigantes were dumber than the Titans too. They didn’t have as varied of powers as the Titans and never had the strategic logic to have children to swell their numbers.
Legitimately the only thing that ever made them a threat was that Demigods had to aid the Gods to defeat them, so the Gods had to find a Demigod capable of defeating immortals and keep that Demigod alive.
so true story here, I never read any of the books before watching this movie when it came out and I legit thought Percy and Clarisse actually got together based on how little chemisty he had with Annabeth and how much chemistry he had with Clarisse
then i found out how different the books were and I got shocked
now you want to vomit imagining them together I expect
@@typo1345Bro, my autistic ass was more appalled by the inconsistencies of the film to even think that there was chemistry between Percy and Clarisse, and the moment it was acknowledged in the video, I immediately gagged
@@typo1345 pretty much😅 idk wtf the filmmakers were thinking
You know, Percy's reaction to Tyson 'dying' when he's only known him since a few days felt even more legitimate than Percy's reaction to Sally 'dying' when she was literally the first and oldest and most caring person in his life.
These movies, I'm telling you-
what movies?
@@calmgentleman Petrova Johannsen.
@@jeffreygao3956 thank you
Peter Johnson
@@jeffreygao3956 ive heard people talk about some Peter Johnson movie, doesn't ring a bell
I am genuinely SO RELIEVED that they didn’t do the third movie, I am TERRIFIED about how Rachel, the Hunters, and the Di Angelo’s would be portrayed.
Let me try my hand at what they would have done: hunters? Bichs who whine about men, our fav red head? A bich who does nother but trying to kiss Percy and nico and his sister?Two kids that don’t do nothing
They would probably remove the fact of the hunters to not date anyone, and make Nico an emo early
@@ethios8928 yep lol that’s what I meant by doing that
nico would have blonde hair and be sassy
@@gomshom67iscool23 he would be happy about his sisters death
The trident cameo on "Poseidon's sword" is a brilliant detail. It's actually a very smart reference that hints at how stupid the prop designer was.
hey now, don't blame the prop guy, they were just doing what they were told.
while the sword never it , prop designer was instructed to do that because Percy was Poseidon's son@@LukaWukaWatcher
I’m surprised I don’t really see this being mentioned but that weird tension between Percy and Clarisse is evidently the writers trying to make your typical YA Love Triangle out of relationships that weren’t there in the book as that was the big thing at the time, Hunger Games & Divergent being the most famous examples of this, with the idea also probably stemming from the original merging and then splitting of the 2 characters as it’s not hard to imagine Percy ending up with Clarisse or having to choose between her and Annabeth at some point in the future if the films had continued past this disaster.
To even think that could have been avoided just by making Clarisse big and giving her more character than self obsession.
In school we read the book the lightning thief. Then afterward we watched the movie and my teacher handed out a sheet and told us to see if we could write down as many mistakes and changes as possible. Multiple pages were filled
Bro same. We had an assignment on Literature class to pick a book that has a movie adaptation and point out every inaccuracies and mistake the movie made.
It was ok for multiple people to pick the same.
Since all of us were task to read Percy Jackson at the beginning of the school year. All of us picked Percy Jackson.
Our teacher had fun reading our assignments and gave us all A+ for how *creative* our writing is about the mistakes and inaccuracies of the movie.
Thank god our grade didn’t have to watch the monstrosity that is the film, but we read it so that was great!
@@iamabread9614 I did Iliad and the Brad Pit 2000's Version of the Troy Movie in college. They killed off so many characters in the wrong order.
HAHA THATS AMAZING
man i wish i couldve done this back when i was in school
I want to go to that school as a now writing major I would’ve probably written a freeing dozen page essay top to bottom
The "he isn't a son of Jesus" killed me more than Hollywood ruined the series.
I guess your stupid death was laughing so hard you broke your neck after falling off your chair.
When the guy said that the Christians have Jesus he can do the reverse of what he can do. It’s funny how he complements another religion.
@@TheAlienmasterHD153 but you know what’s funny? Zuez does nothing Zuez would multiply his punishment by thousands
@@rageninjaplayz448*Zeus
One thing that wasn’t mentioned that PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH is that half of the feats Grover mentioned that Clarisse did are actually short stories from the books that Percy actually did. The Ares Chariot was Clarisse AND Percy, with Clarisse actually needing Percy’s help. The Bronze Dragon Quest refers to Festus, Leo’s dragon from Heroes of Olympus that Leo tamed, with no help from anyone else. So that means that the writers were at least aware of these short stories, they just decided not to actually read them.
Could to bronze dragon one also be a reference to that short story with the giant ants and percy, annabeth, beckendorf, and silena?
@@enderfrags808 it's the same bronze dragon. Percy and co. awaken it and then later leo tames it
@@enderfrags808 that’s the story where both the mymekes and Festus originally showed up. Festus returned in the Lost Hero and the Myrmekes in Trials of Apollo book 1 (I’m tired and can’t remember the name).
What ticks me off is that they name-drop the adventures from the Demigod Files, which I absolutely loved, but they f*** it up anyways.
First, those all take place between books 4 and 5, and all showcase elements that haven’t been introduced yet.
Second, Clarisse only shows up in one of those: the stolen chariot.
Third, in that one, Percy helps Clarisse (who begrudgingly accepts his help) to recover Area’s chariot and to prove herself to her father. Putting aside the character development that hasn’t happened yet this far in the movie, Percy willingly lets Clarisse take the credit because a) she’s proving herself to her father and can’t let him know she got help and b) he just wanted to help a friend. He didn’t *want* credit; he just saw someone in need and helped them. That’s why this whole “one-quest wonder” bit falls so short for me: Percy doesn’t *care* about that stuff. In the Sea of Monsters book, Percy actually notes that he’s happy they didn’t get any credit for the quest.
@@lolman3613 he actually first shows up in a short story from the Demigod Files, which takes place between books 4 and 5.
One thing I’m surprised that you didn’t point out is that Annabeth recognizing Ethan Nacamura, one, ruins his character being son of a minor god, two also wrecks them making a Battle of the Labyrinth sequel, and doesn’t even make sense because Annabeth never knew him until the fourth book. Wow, two books ruined out of one single line.
So someone that I know was like “I like Percy Jackson, how about you, Maria?” and I was like “The books? Yes. The movies? Absolutely NOT.” and then she was like “Oh. I didn’t know there were books. I was talking about the movies.” I WAS SO CLOSE TO EXPLODING.
I legitimately wonder if they read the books whether or not they liked them more than the movies. They’re obviously better, but I’m curious if the stuff they changed and added in gave them unrealistic expectations about how the books are. They’re basically only alike in the title and character names
What you should have done there is hold out an arm, then extend a middle finger
@@seanmalloy0528 I WAS THIRTEEN
I watched the movies first and loved them, and because I enjoyed the movies, I got the books, and, I instantly hated the movies, and now have read all of Percy Jackson, Heroes of Olympus, and am starting The Kane Chronicles with multiple trials of Apollo books on my shelf
@@AC-gg7xy what about "Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard"?
Clarisse “Yay... your alive...”
Percy: “Yeah well I’m not the only one.”
Wow shocker other people are alive.
Lemme finish that sentence, “Clarice can’t be buff because Hollywood thinks buff women are bad.”
Sad
Buff women are great, they aren't appreciated enough 😔
@@keye1443 yes
I think because at that time they don't expect the actors will fully train themselves to fit in their role. Unlike now, we see actors really train like Keanu Reeves and the rest of the MCU cast. And that's why I'm excited for the upcoming show and also afraid.
For once buff women supremacy. Pls Disney do it for the sake of the buff women fanbase.
We call this the Last of Us effect
Yeah, I'm pretty sure in the book he couldn't control the water around Charybdis because she's also a child of Poseidon and Gaea and incredibly powerful. Her control was simply too strong for him to overcome at that point.
I do like that those quests Grover was mentioning all sounded like references to the side books, but i think they're also all references to things that happen later on, after the second book. So ½ point.
“your dad sent a message. he said u shouldn’t be so angry” 😂😂😂that made me laugh. that should turn him back to the good side
Yea it's like they thought they are making a movie for 5 year olds
That was funny. Its like walking up to a depressed person and telling them, unironically, to stop being sad. What was he hoping would happen with that!? It would be better if he had said "I talked to your dad, he wants to talk to you but is having trouble reaching out." It would have even been good prompting for Luke to say something to the extent of "the god of messengers is having trouble reaching out? Yeah, right."
@@SilverDragonJay and boom. You are a better writer than the film writers.
Swiper no swiping
If I had a nickel for every inaccuracy, mythical, or to the book, I would have enough nickels to buy the company and make the movies good
❤
Make that a penny.
Make it a farthing
I think the “mist” thing with Tyson’s eye was done because they didn’t want to spend the extra money and time animating his face, and also the cyclops eye would be weird to look at for two hours.
Also it sets up his insecurity in the movie, he wants to be like his peers, and percy may have complimented his human eyes which may be why he tried to use the mist out on the ocean. Also he looks better with the mist applied in the movie lol
I don’t think it would cost more, as the effect of one eye would only be in mythical places like Camp Half-Blood, and Polyphemus’s island. Every other place would probably be a human territory, meaning the mist would be there in every other place.
@@speakmore.13 but you forget, the movie doesn't care about the book so they turned the mist into an expensive beauty product that only the gods could afford
@@Relichunters01 honestly, I think that Aphrodite chose the mist to be a beauty spray bottle in the movie, because she can’t irl
@@speakmore.13 that makes so much sense, and given that hera absolutely despises demigods she probably had a hand in literally everything else
Forgot to mention Clarisse takes a picture of Grover in a wedding dress to show to her friends on social media. I remember from the novel and the films they’re not supposed to have Wi-Fi your social media in camp half blood. Also doesn’t camp half blood has a rival camp he didn’t mention it either.
The Roman camp was not a thing when Sea of Monsters (the novel) was published.
@@gentlemanlygeeky4088I dont think it was a thing when the movies came out either, although they may have been being worked on by Rick at that time.
@@gentlemanlygeeky4088True
My theory for why the ending is like that is this.
The studio was losing faith in the movies, and despite having agreed to make more, they didn't want to commit either. So they made the choice that regardless of the fact that some stuff was meant to be important for the sequels, everything introduced in movie 2 had to pay off in movie 2. So they had to have the Cronos, Luke, and Prophecy stuff all wrap up in movie 2, so they didn't have to commit to a third movie to explain what happens next. Which meant a third movie could never happen anyway because... Reasons.
But they still wanted the audience to know that a third movie could exist, despite clearly not wanting to commit to making a third movie...
Honestly, no matter how you look at it... It's stupid.
I think so. My guess is they wanted whatever slim chance they could have for a 3rd movie without actually planning on it, and if they somehow got it they would pull a "somehow, Kronos has returned"
I still want a third, as dumb as it would be.
Five Percy Jackson movies to treasure forever feels like a better financial and moral investment. Not only you got five masterpiece films embraced by everyone except extreme purists, you got streaming licenses and home video sales and that's not even counting re-releases in theaters.
I bet you if they made a third one,they would have Nico and Bianca di Angelo as villains for being children of Hades.End then come up with some stupid reason how Thalia couldn’t be the child of the great prophecy,or make her nineteen.
I think I would prefer merging Nico and Bianca into one character who is basically Bianca but she plays Mythomagic like Nico.
Oh gods... they'd have definitely made Nico a villain, whether he turned evil after Bianca's death, or was evil the whole time, maybe a spy for Hades. Or... Nico's evil, Bianca's not, and... OH GODS THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE MADE NICO KILL BIANCA.
Hang on, I have to go bleach that from my brain.
Hi seaweed brain
Yeah they would mess it up so much and then have some else die in place of Bianca
Not just that they probably would have made...dunno Zoe fall in love with Percy and intending to break her oath ore some stupid shit like that. Pan defenetly wouldnt be in it, and I shudder how they would have fucked up Artemis.
Took my sister to see the movie at the theater (because we had foolish hope). Yes this whole movie was dumb but during the brotherly hugging scene, I kept telling my sister "they can hug later. Get the fleece. Omg get the damn fleece."
15:44 A daughter of Atlas did NOT create Anaklusmos for Hercules. It was created by Atlas' wife Plione (not sure how to spell her name). Later she passed it down to her daughter Zoë who could hide it as her hair clip and was NOT supposed to give it to Heracles but she fell in love and did it anyway. Heracles later betrays her and doesn't return it to her. She was then disowned by Atlas for helping Heracles and that was the reason she hates men so much. Though it is unknown how Chiron got it but its story is the reason why Zoë had grudge on men and specially on Percy.
Heracles!!!
It's not unknown how Chiron got it, he tells Percy himself when he formally gives him the sword.
He pulled a pen from his coat pocket and handed it to me. It was an ordinary disposable ballpoint, black ink, removable cap. Probably cost thirty cents.
‘Gee,’ I said. ‘Thanks.’
*‘Percy, that’s a gift from your father. I’ve kept it for years, not knowing you were who I was waiting for. But the prophecy is clear to me now. You are the one.’*
It seems pretty clear to me that Poseidon gave Chiron the sword at some point.
@@SebasTian58323
So, does the book ever explains how Poseidon got Zoe's sword from Heracles?
I still remember my Mom taking me to see this movie in the theater back in 2013. Back then, I knew nothing about the book series or greek mythology in general. No joke, back in those days, I thought Poseidon and Neptune were the merman brothers who created the city of Atlantis.
I saw it on tv after reading the books and I thought it was half good I think I noticed some differences but oh well, but I only in the last few months realized how much I liked trash movies that I shouldn’t of liked, I liked the last air bender movie even, for f’s sake. Luckily I realized how bad The Maze Runner movie was with it’s problems after reading the book in class, and now know how bad those others were, pretty sure I just never thought about anything in regards to the story in the slightest with those movies until that The Maze Runner.
I would be interested in reading a book or seeing a TV show about that
I also remember earlier that day, we were at a bookstore, I got my hands on a Spongebob Squarepants comic book and I had it with me while we where in the theater. In fact I still have that comic book to this day in my comic book collection.
Hell yeah. I like that lore. Neptune and Poseidon being like Romulus and Remus.
@@pokegmystery2954 I enjoyed the first percy jackson film, the last air bender movie and the maze runner movie. But for all of them I watched the movies first and went on to enjoy the original even more.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Chiron was framed in this book to be the one that poisoned the tree and Percy does his super clever golden drachma trick to prove his innocence. That was one of my favorite parts of the book
Yes
YES
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It's like that "I'll kidnap a THOUSAND CHILDREN before I let this company die" moment from Monsters Inc. only Seaweed Brain's proving innocence.
Actually, there's evidence to suggest that they were originally going to use that plotline. Not only was Tantalus going to be in the first draft of the film, but they even cast Mark Hamill to play him. But then for whatever reason, they dropped it because I guess it would have been too accurate to the book
The thing about Dionysus is (and people always get this wrong), he is one of the younger olympians, only beaten by Hermes. If Hermes appears as in his late teens and early twenties, Dionysus is somewhere between 23-29
Edit: I know, his traditions go waaaay back, but in most Greek mythological canon, he was shown as a relatively young guy. They also keep him drunk since it’s said he would OVERTHROW OLYMPUS
OSP does a really good video on it.
If I recall he was the last major God to receive his throne. Mainly because Dionysius was the only Olympian god born to a mortal woman.
Well Gods also choose themselves how they look.
i think they just went with the “old drunk” option. honestly he reminds me of like an old-alcoholic-mobster-uncle type character
I mean, they can appear how they wish.
Something also is the scene where Dionysius copies exactly what AnnaBeth says word for word made me very mad because 1. He doesn’t care that much
2. He would think copying a mortal is beneath him
8:43 Heck, Annabeth has to specifically allow Tyson across the boarder because he can’t pass through in the books.
The return of Kronos in the books was meaningful, heart wrenching, painful, and sorrowful. Luke was carried out of the throne room by the fates themselves and Hermes was seconds too late to say goodbye to his son.
Omg
I am so depressed reading this comment
But the movie somehow makes me more depressed
@@ello7645 there is 2 reasons why I even rewatch Castle and the now that's a god joke.
Can we all agree that the sneaking out cliché is a horrible thing for movies like this? Also, in the books he had a good motivation, like the mythology guy said. But they changed the motivation so that makes it bad
Yes
Yes
In the book the sneak out thing makes sense, but since the first movie used it it’s just repetitive.
@@coreyklaustermeier5692 they also had a reason to sneak out in the book with tantalus being in the way.
@@accidentalmadness1708 That’s what I was saying. With Grover in danger and Tantalus being spiteful they had to sneak out. In the first movie there was no reason for them to sneak out, it was so dumb.
Percy in the books: I didn't want to be a halfblood. It's scary. I just want peace. Please! No quests!
Percy in movies: Oh dang it. I WANTED to put my life in danger during a quest for no reason.
He has some realy great moments, even in book 1 and 2 (the figth with Ares comes to mind imideatly), but in general yes. But then, with the third he grows more and more confident, cocky even, and more and more reckles until he gets older. Something like this maby:
Percy in the book 3-5: I WILL to put my life in danger during a quest I may or may not be on. Dam(ed) should you all be!
Percy in HoO 2: I don't know who I am, but I don't like this god, so I put my life in danger by standing up to him (literally)! And hey. There is a Quest. So let's put my life in danger even more!
Percy in HoO 4: I will put my life in danger for Annabeth (and my friend, but mainly Annabeth)!
Percy in HoO 5: Maby I should put my life less in danger and rely on the help my friends offer me!
Percy in ToA 1: If I put my life in any more danger, Annabeth is gonna kill me!
Percy in MC 3: I need to keep my life out of danger to care of my baby sister!
Weeeeell atleast Movie Percy has the balls to take on a quest and dodge death at every turn.
@@artistanthony1007 and yet book Percy is about 100000000000000000000000000 times more impressive
@@chendror872 Thank you thank you
"He isn't the son of Jesus!" F*cking Killed me lol
It baffles me how the directors went: "Look! We have a perfectly balanced story in five books with great characters and a big fanbase that can no make this franchise into the next Harry Potter. Let's throw it in the garbage and do it over!"
When they made Riptide the Cursed Blade in this movie, I legit rage at the fact they not only deliberately got the fact that it was Annabeth’s dagger Luke gave her, COMPLETELY wrong, they also took a fat steaming dump on the most beautifully done and emotionally written scenes at the ending of Last Olympian.
The scenes that subvert all of your expectations, make you feel genuine sorrow and regret for a villain, and force you to question all your preconceived notions of morality and destiny ? Yeah, those are the scenes that this movie did not care for. Great
@@Megalomaniac_Trans_Lesbian hopefully the upcoming show will do the story justice.
@@GreatOldOne9866 I really don't like most of Disney's productions nowadays, but at least they do sometimes churn out some really good stuff (unlike Amazon). So with that in mind, and between the people chosen to be the main writers and the fact that they are working closely with Riordan, I find myself to be a lot more optimistic than I would have expected ^^
I guess maybe Riptide may have been cursed when it was owned by Heracles(who forgot all about the Hesperides) but there's no guarantee THAT backstory got into the film.
@@Megalomaniac_Trans_Lesbian Hence I say Atlantis and Treasure Planet beat half the Revival age films.
I am extremely disappointed that you didn't point out how they claimed that the sea of monsters "wasn't in Poseidon's domain" to explain Percy being unable to use his powers, but then the water is able to heal Tyson later because he is a "son of Poseidon." So is it not in Poseidon's domain or is Poseidon really just being a dick to Percy 🤨
The latter
@@hendeyjagger7489 😂
Disney wants money more then anything and poseidon was being a dick to percy
Erin Nichols, he did point it out in 28:24
Why not both?
23:52 I know Selena Beauregard was a big part of the confusion, but they also added Ethan Nakamura, who wasn’t even in the series till the fourth book and we first see Selena in the titans curse book like physically and not just mentioned the only character out of those three that actually was in the book Sea of monsters was Chris Rodriguez
"Our expectations were on the ground... And Hollywood brought a shovel"
Poetry
No no our expectations were in the underworld and Hollywood pushed us into fucking Tartarus
@@summerdennis498 All the way down near Nyx.
@@summerdennis498
Forget that, ours expectations were at OLYMPUS and the movie pushed it into Tartarus.
@@BruhTNT4258 yes that is a more accurate description! ^^ thank you for correcting me. 🫡
I watch the Percy Jackson movies when I'm misserable so I can feel more misserable because when I'm at rock bottom the only way is up. Like when I failed an important test I watch the PJ movies to feel worse which in turn makes me feel better. That's all they do for me. They make me go "I might be a failure but at least I'm not the PJ movies"
I like your mindset
Harry Potter: *hold my butter beer*
@HannahBanana sure some things are changed but it’s like have you been living under a rock out of Percy Jackson who’s movies are so bad that literally the Arthur of the book series hates them and the Harry Potter movies are loved and the Arthur loves
@HannahBanana it’s alright I thought I was pretty clear about that
I use the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie for this process
What gets me is that Luke's crossbow has a godsdamned gatling gun barrel on it, but he fires one "dramatic" shot and that's literally it. It also barely even registers when Tyson jumps in front of it, as if they couldn't be bothered to make that look cool.
Imagine if they replicated the Boramir death and Luke emptied that barrel into him
if real boom likes was there he would have spammed Tyson to death
I'm 90% sure that crossbow is a prop from the van helsing movie.
Is it just me, or was the music pretty awful, too?
16:00 slight correction, Chiron DID say in the first book (Chapter 10) that the sword was a GIFT from percy's father, and that Chiron has kept it safe all those years. So there IS a connection to Poseidon, just not the connection showed in the movie
I think that Annabeth recognizing Ethan and Silena might be the thing I hate the most in this movie. Silena because her plot in the 5th book is huge, it has a massive impact on the story and is extremely compelling. Ethan because she probably shouldn't recognize him in the first place, the whole point of his character is that the minor gods and their children are completely ignored and tossed aside, even though he's the son of Nemesis he's basically just considered another Hermes kid. Having him be so easily recognizable just seems to ignore the entire point of him being treated as insignificant and forgettable.
Plus Ethan being with them already by the second movie is gonna make it really weird if he manages to take another 2 books to actually pledge himself to their side.
Omg yes
I recently started reading thr books because of you, only on book 3 right now, but loving it so far. honestly when I pictured Clarisse, I pictured someone built like Luisa from Encanto, so I was really shocked when I saw her in the movie.
Didnt you get the spoilers?
Funny enough I always imagine Clarisse looking like Abby from Last of Us part 2.
From now on every child of Ares will have Luisa’s body type.
This is not up for debate
Same
@@hernehaugen6878 yeah no the woman from encanto is way better visual
I swear when Percy looks at Tyson when he was shot I saw genuine happiness in his eyes
It's the actor thinking this is finally the end of the shoot
I can't unsee it 💀
me too
@@mohammadsufyanparacha9036 time stamp
Tyson's actor should've also been smiling, thinking "thank God it's over'
Not to mention that for some reason they thought that suddenly turning Annabeth blonde like she should have been would actually gloss over all the other bs
10:24 Tyson be like "Dude I can *hear* you
So, I’ve read the books a while ago, but as far as I remember, there was a whole thing about not looking at the gods in their divine forms because it would kill you. In the fifth book from my memory, there is a mention that it’s even worse with Titans, as merely being in their presence while they’re in divine form would kill you. And yet Percy is standing there just fine while fighting Kronos.
Accurate to the books my butt
That's only true for Kronos' true form, since he's a titan king and incredibly powerful.
@@matthewhelland9258 Oh, I see. As I said, I was going from my memory. Thanks for the correction
@@matthewhelland9258 Are you sure about that? As far as I remember any god/titan could vaporise any mortal by having them look at their true form. As stated in the Rick Riordan Wiki "The Divine Form is the true immortal form of the gods in which all of their essence is in one place. Looking upon a god in this state will incinerate and destroy any mortal onlooker. Titans also have a divine form, which differs from that of the Olympians in that they are able to destroy mortal beings simply by being in their very presence.".
@@spyling800 A wiki is not the source material. I'm not saying that mortals don't die from looking at the gods, only that Kronos is the only titan confirmed powerful enough to kill you with his mere presence.
@@matthewhelland9258 then how about when Jason was killed by Hera's true form in The lost hero, or when Percy worries that Artemis Will kill him by transforming in The titans curse, or even actual greek mythology where Zeuses lover Semele is tricked by Hera to see Zeuses true form and is thus vaporised leaving only the unborn Dionysos?
I think I found a credible theory to why Poseidon never responded.
Percy was talking to a freshwater lake, but Tyson knows that Poseidon isn't Achelous
Ha actually kinda makes sense
And that is why, in the books, the Samp has a beach for a nice saltwater phone to Poseidons palace :D
I'm kinda getting that, it is because it isnt the ocean right?
@@artistanthony1007 exactly. Not only the writers, but Percy didn't understand the whole Greek myths memo
Didn't Poseidon talked to Percy in that same lake in the first movie when Percy fought with Annabeth and was badly wounded so his father called him over to the water. Plus I think Poseidon talked to him in the motel pool as well.
The continuity errors in these movies is uncanny.
The Chariot of Ares, at least, was a quest that Clarisse and Percy did together in a short story. Ironic, because Percy was vital to the quest succeeding.
And if I remember correctly that happened after sea of monster, not before
@@merlinrecon7528 It's not specifically stated when The Stolen Chariot takes place, but it's hinted to be shortly before book 4.
@@natasjarose1321 I don’t think it’s after book 4 because remember the start of the stolen chariot was percy learning in school, and percy was kicked out of school in book 4 because of the whole exploding room thing, and I dont think there is enough time for percy to enroll to a new school between book 4 and 5 because of the limited amount of time between book 4 and 5
@@merlinrecon7528 And OP said that the Stolen Chariot probably takes place *before* book 4
I was ripping my hair out by the end of this movie. I read every Percy Jackson, Heroes of Olympus and Trials of Apollo book and then this MONSTROSITY came out.
You know, I think the Percy Jackson books are a masterful exercise in the reversal of cliches, the books lull you into believing a cliched plotline but then suddenly spring a much more exciting and unpredictable resolution to the story than you could've imagined and that's a big factor of what makes the series as a whole unique and fun, the movies on the other hand are an exercise of the exact opposite nature, where every cliche and trope must turn out exactly how you expect it to, that's why Percy is the hero of the prophecy, Riptide is the cursed blade and Luke is the stupid evil villain. It's like taking everything that makes the books so brilliant and turning it onto it's head for achieving the same old Hollywood movie. What a disappointment.
the thing that makes PJO compelling is Luke's ability to make it seem hopeless constantly. Percy barely survives every encounter with him lol
I don't think it was meant to be accurate though. It was meant to hold people's attention. And most people don't like history or myths because it requires reading so they probably figured that even if they got things wrong with the myth the audience wouldn't notice because they don't care for them in the first place. They wouldn't even know that they got things wrong because they never knew it to begin with.
@@Dino-god69 the books built it's villains so well.
the first time I've read the lighting thief, I lost my sleep for days because Cronos terrified me so much. and the book didn't even showed him. he was literally just there, in cut in pieces, in the bottom of a cliff, and it let me absolutely terrified.
The fact that I immediately forgot about Grover's entire existence after he was kidnapped just helped to solidify how bad this movie is.
They seriously downgrade Grover he helped beat Hyperion he had a whole arc but nope cOmIc rEliFe
Same
The book frequently shifts over to Grover's perspective in Polyphemus' cave, reminding you that he was in danger
This film had absolutely no sense of danger, and I was very disappointed at the inconsistency
Wait Grover is in the movie!!??!
So basically Luke's character is, "the only ones who gods care about are themselves. So this is my vow, all gods will die."
That's literally gorr's motive
@@emmanuelseda6071 well no shit sherlock
@@emmanuelseda6071 That's the entire joke
Is that a reference?
omg LOL nice gorr reference *thumbs up
To be fair there was a bit in the book where Percy was embarrassed by his simple mindedness. And it becomes a bit of embarrassment between them.
Also I recall addition to Grover Percy assumed he'd be picked for this mission because he's a Poisidon kid and it's the SEA of Monsters.
Fun fact about Circeland, it was filmed on an actual abandoned amusement park, Six Flags New Orleans, which had been destroyed by Hurricane Katrina and is a very popular place for abandoned theme park explorers to visit despite it being illegal to do so.
Rick Riordon: So, how knowledgeable are you in my best selling book series and to an extent Greek Mythology?
Writers of PJ:SOM: Yes
More like no
One major gripe I have with this video:
Saying "There is no logic in Ba Sing Se" implies that there actually IS logic in the movie.
17:17 RELATABLE?! My brother in Christ what have u been thru 😭
Good point
Can we also mention Luke literally just got his ass kicked a few years ago by Percy mainly using a bunch of fresh water? So he felt it was smart to jump in after Percy onto the ocean... chasing down Perseus, the son of Poseidon, God of the SEA, on the S E A. It's like Luke was suicidal. Like, sure, Percy should be strong enough to sink the Andromeda if it's THAT small, but it's still far safer then jumping into the ocean with him! Fuck if Percy wanted he literally could've snatched him right then and there and drowned his ass with no issue whatsoever
Didn't he try that in The Lighting Thief with water from two water towers?
Especially if they made Percy, the last olympian Percy, he would of absolutely destroyed luke and that puny boat that is the Andromeda
The most frustrating part of Kronos' resurrection was that in the book it was stressed that if he ever took his true form then it would disintegrate all mortals in a 5 mile vicinity of him. This was revealed in the 5th book to Percy in a suspenseful yet humorous way with Dionysus telling Percy in an arcade. In THIS movie, however, he's just very tall. He doesn't even try to control time while being attacked by that stupid blade. 😡
Considering the general level of intelligence the filmmakers have demonstrated by this point, it's likely they didn't even know he could do that.
Also,did anyone realize that in the movies,Percy’s blade has no name besides a pen.
Im pretty sure kronos the titan
And chronos god of time are different beings
At least in mythology they are
Not sure about the pjo books
@@maritofuentes4690 in the books it's essentially combined together. And SPOILERS:
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Kronos can't actually take his true physical form in the books, and instead has to possess Luke's body. He uses a scythe and has time magic.
My only defense of this movie is: the Daughter of Ares was excited by the assault on the Camp because the writers (of the film) didn't think we understood that she is *the daughter of freaking ARES!*
I mean, yeah because Ares is the god of War!
@@shcdemolisher they did it because we would think that Kratos is
Isn't Ares also the god of nature?
He's also depicted as a woodsman
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 That is Pan, Ares is the god of war.
@@lucassiders7309 yes i know Ares is the God of war, I've looked into it and i believe its Mars i was referring to, the Roman variation, who is sometimes depicted as a God of hunting who carries an axe, probably because roman soldiers would also turn their hand to farming
29:42 Come to think of it, if they didn’t have Circe’s island, how were they ever going to develop further than the Percy Jackson’s, they couldn’t have gone into the Heroes of Olympuses because in Son of Neptune they have Reyna and Hylla from Circe’s island, how were they going to do that if Circe’s island never happened? I also just realised that they had Chiron in the movie, when it should have been the ghost of Tantalus after Thalia’s tree (which was poisoned before Percy came to camp) was poisoned, because then I think the gods thought he was losing his touch or something, so banished him from Camp Half-Blood, he went to live with his centaur kin, and that is how we are introduced to the Party Ponies
I feel like the aging up may be part of the reason Clarisse is so weird in this movie. In the book she had a very "Middle School Bully" kind of vibe and obviously there was more to her than that and she develops as the books progress but in the first book especially she's just kind of a bully and that's not something you can pull off when your characters are upper teenagers played by twenty-somethings and also the same age (if I recall it's implied Clarisse is older than Percy).
I’ve stopped tryna figure out her age, in tlt she’s described as ‘maybe 13 or 14’ but in the stolen chariot it’s implied that it’s her fifteenth birthday or sometime around that and I think it takes place before botl which would make her the same age as Percy idk honestly
@@YuriPlisetskyKinnie nah clarisse is older than percy because I remember that in HoO, Clarisse was at college when the lost hero trio arrived, and if I remember correctly percy was still 16 years old in the lost hero
@@merlinrecon7528 Clarisse starts college in the hidden oracle, which is trials of Apollo , she talks during the council meeting in TLH
@@YuriPlisetskyKinnie then where was she in the lost hero? Because I remember clarisse was not there when jason, leo, and piper arrived at CHB, that’s why she was so startled with festus
@@merlinrecon7528 I don’t think she was startled by festus, I think she was protecting the other campers because until that point Festus had been burning and destroying things
If they'd done any kind of book-related set up, "You'd do it for me" would have worked, because in the book, Percy did sacrifice his social life and standing by being Tyson's friend and standing up for him against bullies. He then did the same at Camp Half-Blood, even when it strained his relationship with Annabeth and his other pre-existing friends. The books showed Percy as the ultimate Ride-Or-Die friend, and that's why Tyson was willing to go all out to protect him in return. Also, when Tyson was presumed dead following Clarisse's ship blowing up, Percy was genuinely devastated.
Here, Tyson is a new acquaintance at best and has been an active hindrance at worst. There's call for Percy to feel guilty for NOT being upset that Tyson is no longer drawing attention or dropping important things at the least convenient moment, but we've seen nothing that actually sets Tyson up as being important to Percy.
You know, typing that makes me realise how much this movie did both Percy and Tyson dirty.
Their bond as found family before they discovered they were actual family was one of the best things about the book, and mythical creatures age slower than humans, so while Tyson does have moments of surprising insight and clarity, his simpler moments are explained by the fact that he's essentially the equivalent of a six-year-old, offset by being a Cyclops. He prayed to Poseidon, who sent him an older brother in Percy, which was a great example of Poseidon caring, but being unable to intervene directly. Poseidon knew Percy well enough to know that he would stand up for Tyson, and that Sally Jackson would go out of her way to help however she could, giving Tyson something like a family.
EXACTLY
God those books are so freaking good
ok but that's freaking wholesome
@@loonatheuniverse8146 Reason #853 why the books were better than those trash-fire movies...
So Poseidon DID care after all.
Hopefully the upcoming TV show will finally deliver the adaptation the fans deserve.
Considering Riordan has direct influence in the show, it should.
@@Alphapkmn to begin with they actually cast a 13 year old for percy. I know. Very surprising
Where is the show gonna be on?
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"Our expectations were on the ground before this movie came out, but Hollywood brought a shovel"
That's an unexpectedly good line
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Grover is referencing the stories form the Demigod Files. However those stories did not happen during the sea of monsters. They happened after battle of the labyrinth while Percy was in school/at camp. But hey, do I expect the writers to know that?
The stolen chariot was when Clarisse was allowed to borrow her father’s chariot when her half brothers, Deimos and Phobos, stole it from her and Percy helps her to get it back. It was not just Clarisse and it showcased their weird bond.
The bronze dragons quest didn’t even have Clarisse in it. The crew was Percy, Annabeth, Silena, and Beckendorf. It’s about a game of capture the flag, when they find the mermekes, dragging a giant robot dragon head into their den. They go to investigate, but then Beckendorf gets captured and they have to save him. The bronze dragon supposedly goes on to be festus. It included some of the romances between the characters too.
So yeah. Percy DID do some of those things. Though I don’t know what a Fall tournament or a solstice game is as they weren’t in the demigod files or demigod diaries.
I think the solstice game is a reference to capture the flag between campers and hunters of artemis. But the fall tournament is a weird thing to add because percy isn’t even a year rounder camper, he’s not in camp at fall
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Ohhh Thats smart
@@merlinrecon7528well at the end of the first movie percy chooses to stay at CHB
"For anyone who doesn't know, and that's probably just the writers of this move..." Lol that should apply to the entire movie
My uncle was the special effects producer for this film and he knew I was a fan of the books and he literally told me not to watch it 😅☹️ he also told me that one of the most expensive things in the movie was the cholchis bull, and that they planned to make two but it was so expensive to make that one that they were like nah
bruh
Man this movie sucked . I only watched this movie for Alexandra Daddario . I mean who wouldn't. 😂
I'm wondering why he didn't think that could be the reason why there weren't two. He said that he liked the Cholchis Bull because of how good it looked but didn't seem to consider how expensive it would be to make it look like that. Or how much it would cost to make two.
I'm pretty sure most, if not all, movies would be far better if money wasn't an issue.
Honestly a cut like that for time, budget, etc I understand especially since really the Bulls purpose was not just for an action scene but also to showcase to Percy (and the audience) the danger camp halfblood is facing and Tyson wasn’t exactly what he seemed as well as his abilities as a cyclops….. in the book.
Ehhhhhh?
You also missed the part where after saying the sea of monsters isn’t Poseidon’s domain (sea god, sea of monsters, ok then) he’s still able to use his powers while fighting Luke on the boat and to rock the ship
Yh and how did the sea resurrect Tyson if it’s not Poseidon’s domain
Poseidon DOES have the Sea of Monsters in his domain! Ignore that line!
I’m watching him take increasing levels of d6 psychic damage the longer he reviews this. It’s painfully entertaining to watch
1d6 of psychic damage per minute of review.
I can feel him getting seconds away from cursing them out and into Tartarus
Legit!!!
Absolutely
@@marcushughes4697 XD
I'm honestly surprised he didn't rip apart the entire fight scene with Kronos. They butchered him as badly as Hades in the first one. Kronos doesn't normally eat people, he ate his children out of paranoia over a prophecy. He's not a magma monster thing with horns he looks like a god but big, with golden eyes, and an aura that can kill any mortal or half-blood around him. How did they take such a cool character and reduce him to this generic thing. Same way as with Hades I guess.
You detailing the strange would-be ship between Percy and Clarisse in this movie is one of the most accurate and disturbing summaries of this movie. It’s the writers absolutely reworking the source material into what they think was best and perverting it into something it was never meant to be, whether the intention was to build on it or not.