Different tools give different results... Not plural... just sayin... and yes absolutely true but awesome informative video regardless as well. Thank you for posting and sharing to Mathieu Stern.
I wanted so badly to say that fpv blew the doors off Dji, BUT.. some of those shots with the dji were absolutely unreal. Like a religious experience. I’m an fpv lover, but I think they are both too valuable in their own right.
For real though if you decide to get into FPV you can be making shots like that within your first 10-20 hours of stick time (though flying over water might not be a risk you actually want to take until much later), it can be fairly affordable to get into and can be a lot of fun. Some of the best information out there comes from KababFPV's channel amongst many others.
@@pufapro yeah haha that's exactly right 😁 my point was, in addition to the shot being great as it is, he just happened to time it perfectly with something random like that flock of birds flying in that perfect formation. You need to be both talented and lucky to get such a shot, being that it's main component can't be planned (as far as I'm concerned the birds are the main component by a mile)
Now everybody is gonna buy an FPV drone and crash it as those things are insanely hard to control. A DJI flies by itself, an FPV Drone is months of practice to simply keep it from destroying itself.
You are right, but let's be clear, the fpv drone is not destroying itself. The pilot is doing the destroying. The DJI is not nominal, rather it is keeping the pilot from destroying it.
Gotta say it was much harder 1to2 years ago.. I teached people flying in around 2 weeks this year with sim and outside practice, if you really behind it it's possible to learn at least the basics pretty fast
@@peterzingler6221 agreed, I bought a frsky radio and PC simulator, after 2 months I was flying acro outside doing a few tricks etc. I'm 40 and not the most co-ordinate of people. Just needs some practice
@@peterzingler6221 Totally agree, I build a drone from scratch back when there really wasn't a good flight controller on the market. I was happy when it managed to simply hover. Now, the flight controllers, motors, even the batteries are absolutely insane!
I 'm an Fpv and dji mavic air pilot. I use both depending by the job, but for me fpv wins overall... No words to say how fun and beautiful is to drive fpv quads, and how immersive and natural is the video! but there are some times where you need to necessary use a dji drone and others where a dji drone simply cannot do the job. But I really love fpv flying!
DJI is basicaly b-roll machine. While FPV can be the main footage or also b-roll. But to ger FPV well done will cost much more time and money & skill than DJI. Not for the weak of pockets =)
DJI is basicaly b-roll machine. While FPV can be the main footage or also b-roll. But to ger FPV well done will cost much more time and money & skill than DJI. Not for the weak of pockets =)
ANDYCOSER my son is an fpv Pilots and dji mavic pro pilot, the mavic od professional but the fpv drone is more editing ( the personaggi that is writing this comment is the son of this profile)
I'm an FPV pilot and just starting to get my 5 inch back in the air....however have to admit...in a forest setting DJI wins most of the time with its obstacle avoidance lmao
@@FredSena but you can't get a steady overhead shot with FPV. The horizon can't be controlled either. If your main footage is rolling around like a bird that's great, but if you're tying to duplicate a crane shot? lol good luck
@@jojothefisho4199 .... lol 😁 yeah! Thats what I hear. But like I allready said. No bird can sustain the speed combined with the GeForces of a high end FPV drone. No way, no how. not even close. It would rupture their internal organs and snap their necks like a tooth pick. If you don't know anything about the physics behind unsustainable G-Force.. please don't respond. Most fighter jets could kill a human in an instant if it wasn't designed not to. Any animal is no different. And if you want to start talkin about unmanned vehicles... They can go Way Beyond what a human body, or any living thing (on this planet anyways) can withstand.
►Cascades de France Channel: tinyurl.com/y3z8xcam ►Petit Soldat Channel: tinyurl.com/y5bwjb7s Color Graded with these LUTs : www.mathieustern.com/luts FPV shots were Stabilized using Reelsteady Go :www.reelsteady.com/how_to_cinematic_fpv
To be fair the DJI drone sucked, he could have been executing much more complicated camera techniques with that drone. Rather he was just composing the image and flying straight... where is the rest of the moving camera work?
Yeah, in the forest and river segments, the DJI drone could even have done pretty much exactly what the FPV drone did; with the gimbal in FPV mode you'd even get the camera tilt if that is what you want. Also, some of the FPV shots had a dolly zoom effect added in post, that could easily have been done with the DJI footage, too. This does go to show that the person or people doing the cinematography matter a lot more for the end result than the tools they are using.
@@brandonwarren8351 No, it can't. While FPV technically only means you are using goggles, in the context of drones it is commonly used when talking about what are essentially race drones. The main difference is in how the software controls the drone and handles your input. Your DJI drone holds its position using GPS, even in ATTI mode it still stays level and holds the altitude. Some FPV drones can do these things, too, but most pilots usually fly in acro mode, where all the drone does is maintain its current orientation, so if you tilt it forwards and let go of the stick, the drone will stay tilted forwards. This makes it harder to keep stable, but ultimately allows you to do more things, which is what this video tries to show off (but it significanly under-represents what the DJI drone can do). FPV drones can also be fitted with gimbals to get level, more stable footage, but this limits the maneuverability and removes the ability to go inverted, because the gimbal won't follow fast movements or go upside down. This means that filming with a stabilized drone such as DJI's drones or with an FPV drone is always different.
@@justuslm all I'm saying is you could of closed the gap big time between the two videos, IMO. Fpv mode would get you way closer to the same video as the other.
The dji stuff just seems more mechanical, and it made me feel constrained when watching this. FPV is so much more natural, the movements have much more flow and it makes me feel like a bird
It really depends on what you want to show: relaxing or surprising, each style has its justification depending on the goal of your footage! Great video! 👍
Ok now do a top down view of a waterfall. How about a timelapse of a sunset from high above? Yeah only the dji’s can do those. How about dive that waterfall? Or slope down the mountain? Thats for the fpv! Different crafts are different for a reason. Dji’s cant do them all and fpv’s cant either. Theres no revolution here. Just comparison.
I mean technically you can configure an FPV quad however you like, you can equip one with a barometer and a gimbal and it’s basically a DJI at that point. FPV is just more versatile as there is not as many limits a DJI have. It’s just in the hands of the pilot.
Spent a year practicing in FPV simulators (DRL & FreeRider) before flying a real one. Highly recommend practicing on a computer before going out and purchasing/building a FPV drone.
It has never been a better time to get into fpv as nowadays. FPV Freestyle cinematic, or fpv racing or simply fpv freestyle have come a long way. Lots of us DJI Pilots are getting more and more into fpv and its AMAZING.
Only thing DJI drones have is insanely better battery life. FPV is versatile, build a quad for whatever style you want to film. Crashing/upgrading is not a problem with fpv as parts are easily swapped and won't cost you as much as a dji drone repair. However, fpv has a large initial cost and a massive skill curve while dji is basically plug and fly, paying for the convenience.
Stunning shots! Great pilots and videographers! Wonderful sound editing too! Really nice video! Just a note: If you are interested in DIY electronics projects then build your own! Even if you are very new to all these things, there are really great teachers on TH-cam that go through all of the intricacies and direct their videos to complete beginners. You should also know that you can build an FPV drone that is more easy to fly too (with features such as return to home, position hold, height hold, etc). But if you are not in the least interested in working with electronics then a solution like DJI or something similar might be the right thing for you. About the price. DJI products are pricey and you can build a budget FPV drone/quadcopter. But to become such a great pilot as Petit Soldat, you will need to fly a lot and to push your boundaries, which means that you will crash, and you will have to replace parts, and that adds to the cost. On the other hand, if you search long enough, you could probably find a good DJI Phantom 3 and buy it for a good price from someone who lost his/her interest in it. Hope this can be of any help to someone interested!
Also the dolly zoom shots done with the FPV drone in post production constantly adds a more aesthetic cinematic quality yet the same post productive treatment was not used on the DJI?
they are making a VS video between a professional VIDEOGRAPHY drone and a racing quadcopter with a GoPro strapped to it, they needed to make one look worse to have a winner
They use reelsteady go on cinematic quads as there’s no gimbal otherwise and it would be extremely challenging for a pilot to fly that smoothly. I do get what you mean though.
I’ve been flying DJI since the Phantom 1. It’s my favourite platform, so I am a little biased. They are two totally different forms. But the “FPV version is a lot more exciting. “Horses for Courses” Two very good pilots. Really nice vid
The proximity and the agility that can be achieved with a fast FPV quad lends itself to such awesome shots. But they really are a completely different tool and like a DJI drone should be used tastefully for the specific scene, etc.
as someone who flies a DJI phantom , that FPV footage was stunning. I think that the DJI has a much lower learning curve, but I always believe that skill trumps computer, so a skilled fpv pilot can do what a skilled DJI pilot can do....and some. AMAZING and INSPIRING footage guys !
Both are great tools! The freedom and control the FPV provides is unmatched and the phantom gives a more classically cinematic "helicopter" feel. Great video!
Not exactly the phantom 4 pro and inspire series birds are actually surprisingly quick once their speed limiter is disabled in the DJI go app, not a 100mph quick but plenty quick enough for fast cinematic scenes I think they stay around 50mph I haven’t flown mine at top speed in a long time
I think we all agree that both drone types have unique abilities that the other one can't perform or have difficulty performing. I would have liked to see how close either one could get to the other's primary/unique abilities. For instance have the Phantom fly fast/low over the water (why didn't it even try?)...and also introduce that feeling of banking/flying in post (easy to do).
Loved they video. They both produced great footage, but I honestly still prefer the DJI as a film making tool. The slower movement and ability to hover allow the DJI to focus on a subject and keep it framed properly, which tends to be what you need when making films, especially travel vlogs and documentaries where you are wanting to focus on a specific subject. The FPV drone was awesome, but the sweeping shots and fast motion make it difficult to keep the subject framed and can distract from what you are trying to film. I think they both have a place in the perfect kit, but I would still get more mileage from the DJI.
Good post, completely agree. Would never use an fpv (if that's what they're advocating) for any TV/film work, it's utterly unsuitable. Great for shock 'n awe for the buzz though.
It seems pretty clear that a combination of the 2 is needed for the perfect cinematic video! A nice slow techno jam with some slow and fast scene would be op.
Look up FPV Gopro mount, there is a mount that you fix on top of the frame and has an angle so when the drone tilts forward the camera will become vertical
Interesting camera angles and maneuverability. I wonder how much it cost? I can only imagine the amount of people buying one of these and instantly crashing it.
@@xtragames2342 so you can track pedestrians overhead, just like a crane shot that a gimbal can do? Using a fixed camera on an fpv drone? You could mount it underneath with an angle, but then you can't transition to horizontal, or even circle slowly without the horizon shifting into Dutch angles... All Dutch? Sounds limiting to me.
Everything to fly (batteries, chargers, props, controller, goggles) is about 1k$
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Great video Mathieu ! I truly believe FPV is the future. But you need basically to build it yourself if you wanna achieve such results, and also, be such a fucking good pilot. I'm following Mr Steele for many years now and this guy brought a lot to this community. Salutations de Berlin !
Of course, that's why I teamed up with two pro pilots. If someone think he can just Buy a FPV and get the same result on the first day , he gonna be disappointed :))
@@cinialvespow1054 Everyone has different skills ok with that, sure some persons could learn very fast but not most poeple, being able to fly in a week can be easy, but being able to perform smooth and proper motions will still take time.
Some pilots have both fpv and dji drone. So you can start your footage with quiet overview of location made by DJI and then switch into details with FPV.
There is no doubt that both of the pilots are at the top of their game. But there are things that the DJI cannot do, that the FPV quad can, like the side shot of the car at speed. But I can't think of anything that the DJI can do that the FPV can't. The obvious answer is an FPV quad with a stabilized gimbal, and a switch on the transmitter to turn the stabilization on and off, and lock the gimbal at neutral. Or the same switch on a Phantom 4-series DJI, which can use the DJI goggles. It just won't have the same level of performance.
That is some nice comparison. I like both. DJI for some smooth, calm video and FPV for it's dynamics and different view angles. I think video creatives can easily utilize both and create great content.
Cinematic vs Experience. Each has their use. The Phantom is much more cinematic and shows the subject in a more understandable situation. The FPV creates an insane viewing experience, however it does not show the subject in a way that we can fully understand the surroundings.
The FPV quad will fly circles around DJI, and then some more. There are FPV Pilots, and there are Drone Operators. Notice the differences? "Pilot", "Operator".
Not exactly, not as much technology can be brought to fpv, sometimes you want to be able to have range and fly carefully. The DJI spark is honestly the best combo of speed and camera quality
I also a fpv pilot and mavic air pilot, but fpv is soooo much fun, even the edditing part is fun for me! I am Gonna build a cinewhoop in the near future so i can make even better cinematic footage!
Thomas Lafont I agree! I can do with the atmospheric sounds, they are quite pleasant! But the swooshes every time a tree passes by takes me out of the shot.
i would say it depends more on the Pilot as on the drone. With DJI Mavic you can also fly fast and close, if you can (and have the balls)..... And you can also switch to "Wing Mode" to have the same immersive effect.
This is an awesome video! I have a few DJI Drones and one FPV, and I was trying to decide between upgrading my DJI, or my FPV gear, and I think I'm going to go with a new Radio and Goggles. This video was a huge help!
ASMR Curiosity Cabinet why? going super fast is cool but is it for all applications? the swooping and looping is nice but can you appreciate the footage?
Teromi. Fpv is not all about the footage, it’s more about the thrills and fun of flying. I have multiple fpv quads (most of which I’ve built) and i also have a 3DR solo (phantom like drone). Personally I would take a crappy fpv drone with no had cam at all over a dji drone because it is actually enjoyable to fly Sorry for ranting but I really want to spread the word of fpv and how special the hobbie is
OC_ fpv oh trust me! I understand how flying a fpv drone would be tons of fun. my comment is aimed at the tittle of this video which is about the cinematic aspect of drones. it looks thrilling but sometimes a more cinematic calm steady footage makes sense. (imo)
@@Teromi There are definitely scenarios to use both. If I had to sum up the visual difference,the phantom feels like it's locked in place and the world is slowly and predictably being scrolled past it's vantage point. It's not very engaging. The fpv footage feels alive and makes you feel like you are an interactive part of the environment that's being presented in the footage. It grabs your attention and engages you. Around any kind of action scenario, the fpv drone blows the dji away!
Lonath Senevirathne most of the cliff diving stuff is basically impossible with a gimbal style drone. He also didn’t have it in this video but chasing cars is another strong suit of fpv. DJI style drones have a big advantage in stability and camera range of motion. For example, you couldn’t get a shot looking straight down with an fpv drone without also being moving down. Another advantage that may not be obvious is flight time, fpv drones typically get about 4-7 minutes of flight time, usually depending on how hard you are pushing it, so things like a time lapse are completely out of the question.
I am subscribed here,,but for months I didn't receive and notifications of new posts..,,so now I am catching up and I am totally amazed at how you have expanded and developed this channel.. great ideas and beautiful images every time,,Thanks Mathieu!!
now everyone will run for the nearest hobby shops for you to break fpv quad, not understanding what acro and airmod on fpv drone are.. Joshua bardwell help you
No winners in this battle. Differents tools give differents results. You must to use each one in the correct moment and way.
As an fpv flier, I totally agree, it's best to have both in your arsenal!
Agree..
I was thinking the same
Different tools give different results... Not plural... just sayin... and yes absolutely true but awesome informative video regardless as well. Thank you for posting and sharing to Mathieu Stern.
I wanted so badly to say that fpv blew the doors off Dji, BUT.. some of those shots with the dji were absolutely unreal. Like a religious experience. I’m an fpv lover, but I think they are both too valuable in their own right.
5:12 are you kidding me. That shot... I'm speechless
That's just normal fpv. 🙃. I do it on the daily and it's awesome
@@Kabab "i do it on the daily"
> is also one of the biggest names on the scene
ok ;)
For real though if you decide to get into FPV you can be making shots like that within your first 10-20 hours of stick time (though flying over water might not be a risk you actually want to take until much later), it can be fairly affordable to get into and can be a lot of fun. Some of the best information out there comes from KababFPV's channel amongst many others.
I think the group of flying birds thats mean to be.. 😊😊
@@pufapro yeah haha that's exactly right 😁 my point was, in addition to the shot being great as it is, he just happened to time it perfectly with something random like that flock of birds flying in that perfect formation.
You need to be both talented and lucky to get such a shot, being that it's main component can't be planned (as far as I'm concerned the birds are the main component by a mile)
Now everybody is gonna buy an FPV drone and crash it as those things are insanely hard to control. A DJI flies by itself, an FPV Drone is months of practice to simply keep it from destroying itself.
You are right, but let's be clear, the fpv drone is not destroying itself. The pilot is doing the destroying. The DJI is not nominal, rather it is keeping the pilot from destroying it.
Gotta say it was much harder 1to2 years ago.. I teached people flying in around 2 weeks this year with sim and outside practice, if you really behind it it's possible to learn at least the basics pretty fast
@@peterzingler6221 agreed, I bought a frsky radio and PC simulator, after 2 months I was flying acro outside doing a few tricks etc. I'm 40 and not the most co-ordinate of people. Just needs some practice
@@jackwernet9079 I get ya, but the mistakes you need to make to crash when you do stuff like the guy in the video are minuscule.
@@peterzingler6221 Totally agree, I build a drone from scratch back when there really wasn't a good flight controller on the market. I was happy when it managed to simply hover. Now, the flight controllers, motors, even the batteries are absolutely insane!
I 'm an Fpv and dji mavic air pilot. I use both depending by the job, but for me fpv wins overall... No words to say how fun and beautiful is to drive fpv quads, and how immersive and natural is the video! but there are some times where you need to necessary use a dji drone and others where a dji drone simply cannot do the job.
But I really love fpv flying!
DJI is basicaly b-roll machine. While FPV can be the main footage or also b-roll. But to ger FPV well done will cost much more time and money & skill than DJI. Not for the weak of pockets =)
DJI is basicaly b-roll machine. While FPV can be the main footage or also b-roll. But to ger FPV well done will cost much more time and money & skill than DJI. Not for the weak of pockets =)
ANDYCOSER my son is an fpv Pilots and dji mavic pro pilot, the mavic od professional but the fpv drone is more editing ( the personaggi that is writing this comment is the son of this profile)
I'm an FPV pilot and just starting to get my 5 inch back in the air....however have to admit...in a forest setting DJI wins most of the time with its obstacle avoidance lmao
@@FredSena but you can't get a steady overhead shot with FPV. The horizon can't be controlled either. If your main footage is rolling around like a bird that's great, but if you're tying to duplicate a crane shot? lol good luck
Fpv just gives you that bird's eye outlook, it's amazing!!
Yea, i felt like a big pigeon when i was wearing the goggles :))
umm...
no bird flies that fast. With the same potential of maneuverability.
@@beelzebufo7795
yeah but no bird can pull g's like an fpv...
@@KaneLono you know some birds are fast…
@@jojothefisho4199 .... lol 😁
yeah! Thats what I hear.
But like I allready said. No bird can sustain the speed combined with the GeForces of a high end FPV drone. No way, no how. not even close. It would rupture their internal organs and snap their necks like a tooth pick. If you don't know anything about the physics behind unsustainable G-Force.. please don't respond.
Most fighter jets could kill a human in an instant if it wasn't designed not to. Any animal is no different. And if you want to start talkin about unmanned vehicles...
They can go Way Beyond what a human body, or any living thing (on this planet anyways) can withstand.
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FPV shots were Stabilized using Reelsteady Go :www.reelsteady.com/how_to_cinematic_fpv
Why is this video so Underrated ?
Where could I buy an fpv drone?
NO LIMITS! dam right .. love my fpv quads.
FPV for a film with a theme of adventure or sport and DJI for romantic or usual films
Or casual vlogs/videos
Can't we make a usual or romantic videos with fpv drone? I mean, by flying slowly
@@omerkarabulut7858 of course you can. Check cinewhoop.
Great job on this one! FPV has totally changed the way I'm getting my aerial shots. It's really an amazing tool.
To be fair the DJI drone sucked, he could have been executing much more complicated camera techniques with that drone. Rather he was just composing the image and flying straight... where is the rest of the moving camera work?
agreed, the differences between pilots are insane.
Yeah, in the forest and river segments, the DJI drone could even have done pretty much exactly what the FPV drone did; with the gimbal in FPV mode you'd even get the camera tilt if that is what you want. Also, some of the FPV shots had a dolly zoom effect added in post, that could easily have been done with the DJI footage, too.
This does go to show that the person or people doing the cinematography matter a lot more for the end result than the tools they are using.
Can't my DJI fly fpv same as this? This video is all lies.
@@brandonwarren8351 No, it can't. While FPV technically only means you are using goggles, in the context of drones it is commonly used when talking about what are essentially race drones. The main difference is in how the software controls the drone and handles your input. Your DJI drone holds its position using GPS, even in ATTI mode it still stays level and holds the altitude.
Some FPV drones can do these things, too, but most pilots usually fly in acro mode, where all the drone does is maintain its current orientation, so if you tilt it forwards and let go of the stick, the drone will stay tilted forwards. This makes it harder to keep stable, but ultimately allows you to do more things, which is what this video tries to show off (but it significanly under-represents what the DJI drone can do).
FPV drones can also be fitted with gimbals to get level, more stable footage, but this limits the maneuverability and removes the ability to go inverted, because the gimbal won't follow fast movements or go upside down.
This means that filming with a stabilized drone such as DJI's drones or with an FPV drone is always different.
@@justuslm all I'm saying is you could of closed the gap big time between the two videos, IMO. Fpv mode would get you way closer to the same video as the other.
The dji stuff just seems more mechanical, and it made me feel constrained when watching this.
FPV is so much more natural, the movements have much more flow and it makes me feel like a bird
So this is the pilot's problem. The camera didn't work! DJI just flew straight, didn't work with the camera. Bad DJI pilot
Hahah. Wait until you crash or loose that fpc drone
It really depends on what you want to show: relaxing or surprising, each style has its justification depending on the goal of your footage! Great video! 👍
3:43 that moment give me flashbacks from star wars 6 on endor
Both does great, depends of situation ! I think working and being good with the both system can be really great.
Absolutely, DJI on gps hold to catch the 5inch quadcopter doing awesome thing and then cut the videos together
It's like steadicam vs gimbal, each of them has there own characteristics!
Exactly what I thought!
So true - you can't compare and judge ... just combine and have awesome aerial footage ;)
Ok now do a top down view of a waterfall. How about a timelapse of a sunset from high above? Yeah only the dji’s can do those. How about dive that waterfall? Or slope down the mountain? Thats for the fpv! Different crafts are different for a reason. Dji’s cant do them all and fpv’s cant either. Theres no revolution here. Just comparison.
Think I found one of the very few comments in this section with any logic behind it.... Well done sir..... Well Done!
Exactly what I was thinking. The DJI pilot wasn’t really using any of the type of shots that fpv drones can’t do, either.
I mean technically you can configure an FPV quad however you like, you can equip one with a barometer and a gimbal and it’s basically a DJI at that point. FPV is just more versatile as there is not as many limits a DJI have. It’s just in the hands of the pilot.
dji will get into fpv soon i guess
@@contemptuos DJI is already into FPV, and it's getting more and more people who switch to their visual/radio system.
Spent a year practicing in FPV simulators (DRL & FreeRider) before flying a real one. Highly recommend practicing on a computer before going out and purchasing/building a FPV drone.
It has never been a better time to get into fpv as nowadays. FPV Freestyle cinematic, or fpv racing or simply fpv freestyle have come a long way. Lots of us DJI Pilots are getting more and more into fpv and its AMAZING.
Dji: I can make cinematic footage
Fpv kwad: hold my beer
thought the display pic
was a drone holding a stereo ! 💫
@@-HolySpiritDove- lol but true, gopro with that mounting just like stereo
Haha.. so true
You know that the cine whoop from the beginning is a DJI fpv drone
Its quad
My Jaw Dropped so hard it woke up my wife
FPV in 21:9 is kinda out of place, but I like what you guys did in post with the zoom! Really glad people are getting a new perspective on fpv.
What is the build for the FPV drone?
Only thing DJI drones have is insanely better battery life. FPV is versatile, build a quad for whatever style you want to film. Crashing/upgrading is not a problem with fpv as parts are easily swapped and won't cost you as much as a dji drone repair. However, fpv has a large initial cost and a massive skill curve while dji is basically plug and fly, paying for the convenience.
Stunning shots! Great pilots and videographers! Wonderful sound editing too! Really nice video! Just a note: If you are interested in DIY electronics projects then build your own! Even if you are very new to all these things, there are really great teachers on TH-cam that go through all of the intricacies and direct their videos to complete beginners. You should also know that you can build an FPV drone that is more easy to fly too (with features such as return to home, position hold, height hold, etc). But if you are not in the least interested in working with electronics then a solution like DJI or something similar might be the right thing for you.
About the price. DJI products are pricey and you can build a budget FPV drone/quadcopter. But to become such a great pilot as Petit Soldat, you will need to fly a lot and to push your boundaries, which means that you will crash, and you will have to replace parts, and that adds to the cost. On the other hand, if you search long enough, you could probably find a good DJI Phantom 3 and buy it for a good price from someone who lost his/her interest in it.
Hope this can be of any help to someone interested!
Dji: stable, accurate, slow,
Fpv drone: reeeEeEeeeeeEeeeeee
lol, im dji , slow but sure
Also the dolly zoom shots done with the FPV drone in post production constantly adds a more aesthetic cinematic quality yet the same post productive treatment was not used on the DJI?
they are making a VS video between a professional VIDEOGRAPHY drone and a racing quadcopter with a GoPro strapped to it, they needed to make one look worse to have a winner
They use reelsteady go on cinematic quads as there’s no gimbal otherwise and it would be extremely challenging for a pilot to fly that smoothly. I do get what you mean though.
@@gautamkrishna7421 pilots certainly fly smoothly without reelsteady. Reelsteady is a tool. the icing.
FPV all day looooooong!!!🥇
I’ve been flying DJI since the Phantom 1. It’s my favourite platform, so I am a little biased. They are two totally different forms. But the “FPV version is a lot more exciting. “Horses for Courses” Two very good pilots. Really nice vid
Both are sick! They have different characters. So cool.
The proximity and the agility that can be achieved with a fast FPV quad lends itself to such awesome shots. But they really are a completely different tool and like a DJI drone should be used tastefully for the specific scene, etc.
as someone who flies a DJI phantom , that FPV footage was stunning. I think that the DJI has a much lower learning curve, but I always believe that skill trumps computer, so a skilled fpv pilot can do what a skilled DJI pilot can do....and some. AMAZING and INSPIRING footage guys !
Please don't letterbox your videos. TH-cam can handle 21:9 just fine and it ends up letterboxed and pillarboxed.
Both are great tools! The freedom and control the FPV provides is unmatched and the phantom gives a more classically cinematic "helicopter" feel. Great video!
Wow I have just been researching fpv and your video comes out. Thanks
FPV are really difficult to control but is completely on another level. It’s amazing
Its basically slow vs fast
@minutes CUBE well yes it would be difficult trying to get a timeplapse on an FPV...
Nope xD
Not exactly the phantom 4 pro and inspire series birds are actually surprisingly quick once their speed limiter is disabled in the DJI go app, not a 100mph quick but plenty quick enough for fast cinematic scenes I think they stay around 50mph I haven’t flown mine at top speed in a long time
boring vs super exciting
but the fpv needs post stabilization usually with reelsteady, right?
JCUTMoto only sometimes. Not if u have a amazing pilot
What's a good pair of fpv goggles? HDMI input.
FatShark HDO or Orqa if you are patient
DJI DIGITAL FPV control
Both great for different filming purposes
I started with a GPS drone but didn't know about fpv...now I'm hooked on fpv and the other hasn't been touched for so long
I think we all agree that both drone types have unique abilities that the other one can't perform or have difficulty performing. I would have liked to see how close either one could get to the other's primary/unique abilities. For instance have the Phantom fly fast/low over the water (why didn't it even try?)...and also introduce that feeling of banking/flying in post (easy to do).
Loved they video. They both produced great footage, but I honestly still prefer the DJI as a film making tool. The slower movement and ability to hover allow the DJI to focus on a subject and keep it framed properly, which tends to be what you need when making films, especially travel vlogs and documentaries where you are wanting to focus on a specific subject. The FPV drone was awesome, but the sweeping shots and fast motion make it difficult to keep the subject framed and can distract from what you are trying to film. I think they both have a place in the perfect kit, but I would still get more mileage from the DJI.
Good post, completely agree. Would never use an fpv (if that's what they're advocating) for any TV/film work, it's utterly unsuitable. Great for shock 'n awe for the buzz though.
It seems pretty clear that a combination of the 2 is needed for the perfect cinematic video! A nice slow techno jam with some slow and fast scene would be op.
Wow that's awesome. Make more please . If possible show technique to setup GoPro to fpv. Thanks
Look up FPV Gopro mount, there is a mount that you fix on top of the frame and has an angle so when the drone tilts forward the camera will become vertical
good video! the dji makes it look like a calm, just passing through view... while the fpv makes it look like an adrenaline filled race! amazing!
Interesting camera angles and maneuverability. I wonder how much it cost?
I can only imagine the amount of people buying one of these and instantly crashing it.
Wow this is amazing
As a mavic 2 pro owner, i could admit fpv's footage looks more fun!
🙌
I'm digging it!
Good morning from Brazil.
Good morning, what do you have for breakfast ?
@@MathieuStern Bread, butter and coffee. The brazilian classic.
Each type of shot has its own application, both styles are great and look really cool.Good work
FPV is much more dynamic and immersive
Fpv CAN be but not as much technology can be brought to them
It’s so immersive that it can even make you puke sometimes 😂
for personal flying, but for framing shots and creating deliberate content??? FPV can't hold a frame. Sorry.
@@10-AMPM-01 not exactly
@@xtragames2342 so you can track pedestrians overhead, just like a crane shot that a gimbal can do? Using a fixed camera on an fpv drone? You could mount it underneath with an angle, but then you can't transition to horizontal, or even circle slowly without the horizon shifting into Dutch angles... All Dutch? Sounds limiting to me.
A tip if you want to get some more dynamic shots with your DJI drone, try putting it in fixed wing mode
Go FPV! Finally getting some more recognition in the cinematography sector!
The FPV shots flying over the water reminded me of the opening to the shining! So cool!
I wish we could fly here in NYC. I'd be a rockstar with that FBV!
thought would be sick! Instead of mountains it would be skyscrapers.... 😮
How much was the fpv all in. just curious might want to invest in that set up
Everything to fly (batteries, chargers, props, controller, goggles) is about 1k$
Great video Mathieu ! I truly believe FPV is the future. But you need basically to build it yourself if you wanna achieve such results, and also, be such a fucking good pilot. I'm following Mr Steele for many years now and this guy brought a lot to this community. Salutations de Berlin !
Of course, that's why I teamed up with two pro pilots. If someone think he can just Buy a FPV and get the same result on the first day , he gonna be disappointed :))
@@cinialvespow1054 No, definitly no :)
@@cinialvespow1054 Everyone has different skills ok with that, sure some persons could learn very fast but not most poeple, being able to fly in a week can be easy, but being able to perform smooth and proper motions will still take time.
What is the name of the fpv drone
What a stability🤗🤗👍👍
The sheer skill of the FPV pilot is more impressive than the footage👌 (which is jaw-dropping to say the least🤩).
Amazing, too many value things in the video! 👍🏻 You’re a really bird!
Wow,so speedy,beautiful green views & flight,like,so healed,thanks for sharing,my friend,have a great day.~
Cine Drones win, but definitely DJI is working on breaking in this scene too
Some pilots have both fpv and dji drone. So you can start your footage with quiet overview of location made by DJI and then switch into details with FPV.
Sorry but this wasn't even a challenge. The Fpv definitely dominated 👌
For live experience of course, but not for video, its has a very bad quality
There is no doubt that both of the pilots are at the top of their game. But there are things that the DJI cannot do, that the FPV quad can, like the side shot of the car at speed. But I can't think of anything that the DJI can do that the FPV can't. The obvious answer is an FPV quad with a stabilized gimbal, and a switch on the transmitter to turn the stabilization on and off, and lock the gimbal at neutral. Or the same switch on a Phantom 4-series DJI, which can use the DJI goggles. It just won't have the same level of performance.
Without gimbal FPV drone cannot film anything except what the machine is facing, but you're right FPV for the win 👌
uhm fpv can become pretty expensive too
That is some nice comparison. I like both. DJI for some smooth, calm video and FPV for it's dynamics and different view angles. I think video creatives can easily utilize both and create great content.
Cinematic vs Experience. Each has their use. The Phantom is much more cinematic and shows the subject in a more understandable situation. The FPV creates an insane viewing experience, however it does not show the subject in a way that we can fully understand the surroundings.
This footage is so amazing! So fluent and dynamic!
The FPV quad will fly circles around DJI, and then some more. There are FPV Pilots, and there are Drone Operators. Notice the differences? "Pilot", "Operator".
no,
bro please tell me where can i buy this fpv drone
It's a custom drone I think
I don't even know what to say. I don't even think you can say that this is a fair comparison anymore. FPV is just leagues ahead.
Always was
Fpv is ahead since people control it with skill versus basicly a computer controlling it.
Its not like you gonna buy one and fly like in this video...
Not exactly, not as much technology can be brought to fpv, sometimes you want to be able to have range and fly carefully. The DJI spark is honestly the best combo of speed and camera quality
@@xtragames2342 erm thats no where near true the spark is very slow with just about usable video quality
@@jamesramsey2400 the camera can be set to act as fpv and the spark is very agile since it's small.
Bird shot at 5:10 was insane
FPV is so much hard to control! The DJI drones are safety and easy to fly!
I also a fpv pilot and mavic air pilot, but fpv is soooo much fun, even the edditing part is fun for me! I am Gonna build a cinewhoop in the near future so i can make even better cinematic footage!
Def fpv I like dji but fpv is real freedom
Some truly stunning footage. I'm new to quads, but am like a sponge soaking up the wonderful techniques and tips of all these great quad channels.
Just let the music alone, forget sound design :D
Thomas Lafont I agree! I can do with the atmospheric sounds, they are quite pleasant! But the swooshes every time a tree passes by takes me out of the shot.
Way too many cheesy woosh sounds!
Yeah get rid of the wooshes
i would like to thank you for releasing this! Thx for getting me into fpv flying, just built my first quad, man it's awesome!
The sound fx is also really good Math ! gg man ! and also gg for the drones pilot's
thanks lot Arnoz
Mathieu Stern how did u find sound effects like air sound whoısh vb ?
Spettacolare il finale !!!!!
also despite what this video shows, dji drones can also move pretty quick, with sport mode on the Phantom 4 can go 50 mph
Thanks for the efforts and time dedicated to making this video guys
I think that flying the FPV drone is more difficult than flying a DJI drone
I think too 😅It's all manual!
@@PetitSoldat Yes, that's the art ;)
Million times harder. I have more than 40 hours on Liftoff (simulator) and nothing close to what these guys do.
No shit sherlock
Really nicely done! Was good seeing both perspectives with no opinions on what's better, just showing _________.
i would say it depends more on the Pilot as on the drone. With DJI Mavic you can also fly fast and close, if you can (and have the balls)..... And you can also switch to "Wing Mode" to have the same immersive effect.
Un petit bijoux cette vidéo ! J'adore ! Good Job les gars !✌🙏😉
Sancho Mikka 🙌🙌🙌
demn legit comparison this make makes me sub. that why i sold out all my dji a year ago and flying this fpv addiction until now ahahah cheeers......
Can you share the fpv setup?
This is an awesome video! I have a few DJI Drones and one FPV, and I was trying to decide between upgrading my DJI, or my FPV gear, and I think I'm going to go with a new Radio and Goggles. This video was a huge help!
FPV is more energetic
DJI is more dramatic.
Depends on the moment. ;)
The sound editing in the clips is insane. Great flying!
When i finished the video i wanted to burn my DJI
ASMR Curiosity Cabinet why? going super fast is cool but is it for all applications? the swooping and looping is nice but can you appreciate the footage?
Teromi. Fpv is not all about the footage, it’s more about the thrills and fun of flying. I have multiple fpv quads (most of which I’ve built) and i also have a 3DR solo (phantom like drone). Personally I would take a crappy fpv drone with no had cam at all over a dji drone because it is actually enjoyable to fly
Sorry for ranting but I really want to spread the word of fpv and how special the hobbie is
OC_ fpv oh trust me! I understand how flying a fpv drone would be tons of fun. my comment is aimed at the tittle of this video which is about the cinematic aspect of drones. it looks thrilling but sometimes a more cinematic calm steady footage makes sense. (imo)
@@Teromi There are definitely scenarios to use both. If I had to sum up the visual difference,the phantom feels like it's locked in place and the world is slowly and predictably being scrolled past it's vantage point. It's not very engaging. The fpv footage feels alive and makes you feel like you are an interactive part of the environment that's being presented in the footage. It grabs your attention and engages you. Around any kind of action scenario, the fpv drone blows the dji away!
It's hard to beat the feeling you get from just letting it rip with an fpv drone!
th-cam.com/video/UmFoIuhm9B0/w-d-xo.html
What's your fpv deone frame ?
Lethal Conception SX218 :) available on drone-fpv-racer.com
WTF... In my oppinion there is no winner! DJI has mosmooth and dreamlike videos and the FPV is the complete oposite!
FPV can not slow down. That's means if you want a slower video , it is not easy for FPV. DJI can turn on sport mode for faster flying.
To go slower, you juste have to set an appropriate camera tilt! the engine tilt + the throttle is how you deal with your speed in FPV ;)
Pretty Sure you could've gotten the same effect with 'a' dji (not a phantom per se) , it's just a matter that you didn't, not that it can't
Lonath Senevirathne most of the cliff diving stuff is basically impossible with a gimbal style drone. He also didn’t have it in this video but chasing cars is another strong suit of fpv. DJI style drones have a big advantage in stability and camera range of motion. For example, you couldn’t get a shot looking straight down with an fpv drone without also being moving down. Another advantage that may not be obvious is flight time, fpv drones typically get about 4-7 minutes of flight time, usually depending on how hard you are pushing it, so things like a time lapse are completely out of the question.
I am subscribed here,,but for months I didn't receive and notifications of new posts..,,so now I am catching up and I am totally amazed at how you have expanded and developed this channel.. great ideas and beautiful images every time,,Thanks Mathieu!!
wow, thanks a lot Clint , how do tou explain that you got no notifications ? did you click on the notification bell.
@@MathieuStern I thought I had,,but really--who knows what an Android phone is truly thinking these days.......
now everyone will run for the nearest hobby shops for you to break fpv quad, not understanding what acro and airmod on fpv drone are..
Joshua bardwell help you
the flow in cinematic fpv shot looks so crazy