Detroit Diesel Diagnosis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I start tracing the old wiring for the navigation lights then get together with Adrian to go through some diagnosis of two detroit diesel engines.
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It's amazing that in this day and age, the right man with a little paper book in hand can still be such a godsend, but there it is.
Watch a lot of YT, dig boats. Some people want less detail, some people want more detail.
I'm glad I found this one. Perfect level of detail.
Really enjoy the engine room banter.
Glad to hear it!
Boy it's really nice to have a serious expert in something that's is so important to your boat. When you talk to him you can tell he knows what he's talking about , really nice to see an expert!
I worked for a farmer on Eyre Peninsular back in the day and he was a diesel engineer/mechanic and I've never seen anyone in a community who was called daily by other farmers, fisherman, 4WD owners etc about diesel engine troubles.
His shed was a sight to behold, so much stuff that you wouldn't be able to itemize it all in years, yet he knew everything in it and where it was.
That whole engine rebuild was worth it for the GROWL that beast has! Sounds GREAT!
Thanks mate, I like the sound of it too.
I'm so jealous of you guys mucking around with big boats!!
The secret to steering a boat is to see where it goes and then look sternly in that direction. Everybody will think, that that's where you wanted to go.
Another great video mate. Don't apologise for posting a late video as you put it. You owe us nothing.. you've supplied entertainment engineering craftsmanship & honesty. Keep up the great work and passion
Thanks mate. :)
That bloke knew his stuff
Good to see you going out on all your boats soon
Adrian is one of the best mechanics I've ever seen. A savant.
Came here for the boats, stayed for the chickens.
That's so funny! When I watch, my wife tunes out, until the end, and then she LOVES watching the chickens!
Same here, always look forward to the chook update...
They're very adorable.
Always enjoy watching someone crawling around a Detroit.
Adrian is one of the Top 3 Mechanics I've ever seen! Maybe number 1. He is obviously a Savant.
That was a great video! I love seeing an expert go through an engine.
Glad you enjoyed it! I was really glad to have Adrian check my Detoit now that it's been run in for a while.
Your videos are helping me rebuild a bass boat for my son and I to enjoy. Thank you so much.
That is awesome! :)
I'm ready for my close up now Mr DeMille.
Nice to see a real expert delving into things. Makes a change from the armchair experts I have to deal with.
It is great having Adrian in the area, takes a lot of the guesswork out of working with these engines.
Great video Stu. I also vote for a boat handling video.Inboard vs outboard .
Renco is a GOOD looking boat Stu. Looking forward to seeing her finish painted and strut'n around in the bay.
You and me both!
Love Daffy and the gang! Glad you are getting the Detroit further dialed in.
I would love to see a video with a better explanation on steering.
Thanks mate, will do a proper video on it soon with a bit more planning and better camera angles.
Maybe techniques for different engine/steering setups
Go to th-cam.com/video/k1J52pKbb48/w-d-xo.html This is how it is done
Great idea for us mountaineer people who have no idea wear we're doing... Not me... Lol
Here's something to practice on while you wait: theboatdocker.com/training/welcome-to-the-boat-docker/
Stu, I am learning alot from your channel about Detroits in a boat and how they work. My experience with Detroit diesels was years ago when I used to drive a 1978 White Road Boss truck back in the early 90s from NJ all the way to Virginia. Keep up the good work my friend!
Love seeing an old school expert dealing with this stuff! Awesome vid!
Your mate has a bottle opener ring. Most Aussie thing I've seen lately. :)
Hi Stu. Just watching Daffy coming down the stairs at the end of the video and spotted the same ceramic elephant pot stand as we have.Would not believe that! Cheers from chilly Melbourne.❄️🐳
I think they came from Bunnings from memory.
Renko getting better by the day. Great work mate!
Thanks Richard!
Can’t say I understood most of that (except the chooks) but hats off to you guys with the knowledge!
Thanks Dayne. ;)
Absolutely right Stu! I never forgot what an old decoration painter once told me : if you can't hide it you have to highlight it - ATB Marc Belgium
Exactly!
1:26 The exact moment that i realise that my dad built my childhood home out of boat timber! All of our floors, walls and even the ceilings where the same tongue and grove boards!
Now i know why he called it the "earth ship" and it wasn't because he was a hippie Good one dad!
Had to stop the video and say Yes! I would love to see more of the details about handling a boat.
Boy, that engine sounds good!
Hi Stu I had a fixed ladder similar to the one you were looking at, it had an extra section on the outside, hinged at the bottom so that it could be dropped into the water when we were diving. I hooked it back up again with the gaff and had a lashing holding the top together , the rungs were spaced so they were matching the fixed part when it was up so it made a good boarding ladder.
Sounds like a great setup!
Hello from Ontario Canada, Love the channel!! Please do the series on boat handling as per your idea.
Thanks! Will do!
One of the big reasons I bought my used Pacemaker Flybridge 32 was the dual 350 Crusader engines set for counter-rotation. Docking and maneuvering in tight spaces was a breeze. Onlookers who were used to single prop craft were impressed at my 'skill', when it was all down to using the throttles correctly. At 7 tons, she needed that power to slew about, I can't imagine handling that tonnage with just a single prop, you da' man, Stu!... ; {
Very interested in that prop walk for single screw boats!
The permanent ladder is definitely a good safety item
Yes, I think I'll add something like that soon as it might be a while before I get around to the stern platform.
@@DangarMarine good deal Stu, keep up the good work and be safe out there
@@DangarMarine - In the meantime, put up a sign "NO SWIMMING!"'... 🤣
Very interesting this week: diesel engine mechanics go a bit over my head but it's always good to learn new stuff. The idea of "seamanship" videos is a brilliant one. We could ALL do with learning more before we head out onto the water!! Thanks for keeping us updated with D-Squad.
Cool, thanks
Gday mate - I had a 1932 wood cruiser with twin 671's built in 1945. She was used for coastal patrol on the US West Coast during WW2. Original engines were run to ground during the war so the owner immediately after the war replaced with the detroits after the war. They worked great (after a major clean up and adjustment for each) for the 12 years I had her. Love the sound! Nothin like it!
Wow, sounds like a beautiful old boat.
Mate, Adrian seems like a great guy to have around. I love people like that, you can learn so much.
What a blast, a good engine room party! I’ve been to a few of them, they can be good fun or really stressful. Yours looked like it was a fun one luckily.
Cheers,
Glenno
For sure, they can go either way. Nothing worse that being told that an engine needs to come out, particularly in a boat like Cavalier where the wheelhouse would need to be removed.
Thought I may lose interest once you had Renko running but you are still posting really good and interesting content. Its the technical detail I find most interesting. Also glad you have continued to not cut corners, do it right or don't do it. Well done mate.
Thanks Adrian. :)
That was a damn useful explanation of the turning technique, would be great to see a demo!
You may have already seen it, but Adrian shows it in this video from when my Detroit was in the workshop th-cam.com/video/YPB40-gM5-Q/w-d-xo.html
@@DangarMarine Ha so it is! Cheers :)
Stu, love to learn more on single shaft/rudder operations, I drive one of the 40 footers moored near Cavalier and would love to know more. "Came for the Education, Stayed for the Adventure" lol.
Always love engine talk. Never a bad choice for videos... Adrian is a rock star...helping the both of you was great.
Perhaps with drone shots of different boats for a steering video. Both outboard , shaft, and whatever else you can get your hands on
Good idea, a comparison video would be interesting.
When you are in the reverse gear, the prop creates suction in front of the rudder. When you are in forward gear, it creates push against the rudder. The directional forces determine the movement.
Great vid Stu ! Always fun listening to Adrian talk Detroits. The ladies are looking good too👍
I can't believe am sit-in there watching chooks reacting to Stu.
Adrian is a handy skin he seems to know everything great guy , great vid thanks
You bet
Great.episode with lots of knowledge from Adrian!
Hell Yeah...Dangar Marine.... Mondays are good
Always good to see Dave.
We were getting quite a few Aussies coming here on vacation until Covid19. I hope they resume when its over. Southern Utah and Lake Mead. Seem like very good people
Hey Stu, I have only ever seen airbox drain valves installed when the drains are plumbed back into the sump, the valve is a normally open valve that closes when air box pressure rises, they are notorious for blocking with sludge. I think they were first fitted around 1975 a very early emissions control system to stop pools of oil being left on the ground under lightly loaded engines when parked up, when working properly they could have added a bit to performance as the open drain is basically a charge air / boost air leak. There is a test for crankcase pressure using a piece of water filled PVC tube poked into the Dipstick tube, the allowable pressure is only a few inches of water.
And those check valves close at a “surprisingly” low pressure (if you are not familiar with the operating principles of the engine design). When they clog, or the check valves stick open, loss of power and a bit of mess, for sure. (DD8V92TA DDEC II with Allison HT-755CR ATEC in a early 90’s Prevost H3-40 conversion.)
That was treat,getting the Detroit sorted out, always something that needs done on a boat it seems, Jeff in LA USA
I always referred to that technique as "back and fill"..works every time with a single screw inboard..less effective, but still doable in port turn as well.
Lots to learn about those engines and what they need to run right.
Stu
I was getting nervous when your video was late, was thinking you might of get distracted by the hens 😉.
And back during WWII Detroit was the engine of preference. My father was in the military during that time, some of his tails sure were interesting 🤔.
I bet he has some great stories to tell!
92 series 2-stroke cycle engines are still being built for, and used by, the U.S. military.
Ive watched a few of your tips for boating and its very new to me and interesting as well. I tried to follow along with what you were describing when you were turning around in the marina but I am not sure I understood. I hope you talk more about the basics in future videos. I am also really looking forward to what you will do with the lower cabin.
Adrian's wealth of knowledge is Gold he's just so on it, I hope he trains and an apprentice or all that knowledge is gone. Great video Stu always seems to end so quick.
Cheers🍺
I hope so too!
Hi Stu, your oil blow-by issue could just be down to high oil level in the sump, once you have confirmed your sump part no. And cross referenced with Adrians book, you might find that once you have corrected the oil level, it will cure your blow-by issues.
All the best,
Throw some worms to the chooks for me.
For sure, I do still suspect high oil level. Will definitely get that part number today if I can and give him a call.
Hey Stu. Liked the boat handling section as well.
Ace! Engine vid. Marvellous. Love the DD two strokes! Nice one Stu.
Thanks 👍
Love the sounds of healthy Diesel engines working! Especially in the earbuds
I would enjoy seeing a video explaining how you use the prop to assist with control while reversing or going forward. This would be a big help! Thanks Dangar Stu. I have watched all your videos and learn a lot.
Aerial shots and boat things yes!
Basically turning around is like cutting a doughnut in a car on ice . I used to do that with my old houseboat and it works great . Cool video again man and have a cold one for me .
Great video Stu! Would've loved to hear the sound of the 8v91 on Cavalier!!!
Cavalier was the boat used as an example of a dry exhaust in this vid th-cam.com/video/tC4jHyUuDs0/w-d-xo.html It's actually very quiet, in fact so quiet that Adrian was worried about it being blocked up too much for the Detroit to breathe properly.
I enjoyed that Stu..Not much about lots of things in the end but still had my attention all the way..
Don't forget to account for remote filters, coolers and line volume when calculating total oil capacity. The book would give you bare engine sump capacity.
Great episode, diesel troubleshooting!
Great episode as always, Stu!
I have a 23' Uniflite, single screw inboard. I use your prop-walk technique also and boat will turn to port in 1-1/2 boat length. (Left-hand prop). I would love to see other single-inboard handling videos.
Keep up the progress. Watching from Fairbanks, Ak.
Stu, you clean up quite nicely. I like that shirt by the way!
Stu thanks for this great vid. I'd be keen for you to explore prop walk more, with on water demo.
Will do
Lovely. Great update. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the update mate....Take care...Cheers, Kentucky over and out....!
Thanks, you too!
Great info Stu. Please keep us in the loop, when you find out about your oil capacity and silicone removal in the vent circuit.👍👍👍👍👍👍😷
Will do
A tip for anyone doing electrical work on a boat; I have access to Teflon jacketed Silver coated wire at a shop I work at in various gauges. I now exclusively use this type of wire on anything and everything marine because the teflon coating is super tough and won't nick allowing water in then corrosion and it pulls better because it's slippery vs PVC. Also, teflon is a lot more heat resistant and the silver coating on the cooper is a must for corrosion protection. The only downside is cost and availability as it's Mil Spec wire, however you can usually buy lengths of it on ebay. I am fortunate to have access to full rolls we get from Govt. surplus, but with those few negatives I've stopped having as many electrical issues on the boats I work on, including my own even when I used heat shrink style terminal ends. The combo of the teflon wire and these types of connectors is a must, especially around salt water.
Great job. Love the videos, but wish there was more. Keep up the good work!
Stu, I was surprised when I saw Renco the other day I thought it would be a bit bigger.
I keep telling people it’s a small boat! I guess it just doesn’t come across on camera. Thanks again for the tank. 😊
@@DangarMarine No problem mate. Its not the size of the vessel but the motion of the ocean that gets the job done. 😉
There is a lot of pleasurable things that the small ones can give that the big ones can’t, I guess it could go for boats too.
It took a fair bit to work out how to steer our boat around in tight quarters. Single screw with a rudder.
It does take a bit of practice, that's for sure..
@@DangarMarine how good is it when you get it right! It feels like you have joined a club. The no bow thruster club. LOL
Love that explanation
Stu... come to England and play with a narrowboat!! up to 70 feet long, and only 7 feet wide... you can only turn them round at certain places on the canal, called winding holes..... spinning a 70' boat in an 80' winding hole takes so much skill.... I rarely got it right with a 53' boat!
Thats what I thought mate. Narrowboating is easy, mastering a narrow boat takes some skills.
G'day Stu interesting video this one and it hit home because I nearly have same thing happen to me, those chickens are bloody smart good to see you Stu and of corse the girls.........John
G'day Stu, been watching for months, enjoy what you are doing. We own a project boat as well 50ft 1949 custom built steel cruiser 'Tropic Seas', a piece of Cairns Qld marine history. She has a 1954 471 GM and your rebuild has been fascinating, l'm jealous as ! Steering issue has been a major problem for us as we berth in a marina, look forward to further discussion on this matter 👍
Cool video, looking forward to seeing the new video..... like the hens too
..Good video, great wiring job, gettin' closer to the light at end of the tunnel ..lol..keep safe..
Thanks 👍
Long intro this week. Real action starts at 24:19.
😂
Don't say that, it'll go to Daffy's head. ;)
As to steering and directional dynamics relating to engine operation: Going ahead it is next to a zero issue. In reverse, the water flow over the rudder is mearly that of the boat speed (slow) thru a static fluid...very small compared to forward when the prop pushes on the rudder. In addition the water discharge off the tips of the propeller push against the bottom of the boat for a good 1/4 of the props revolution pushing the boat sideways . Throw in a little tidal flow and its a mell of a hess.
Lock down hair style - nice
Adrian is a wealth of knowledge good man to know. Mate I would like to see more on steering boats & general seamanship it always fascinates me . Have you got your exhaust bend from Damien yet? It looks cool. Take care mate cheers
great vid'ya looking and sounding great
I would like to see some boat handling videos, I bought a 40ft Steel boat to live on and have no idea how to drive it in tight quarters! :D
Luckily there is plenty to do before I will go anywhere and she is moored in a marina while I fix her up, she did make the 90 miles to here under her own power and with me at the helm for some of that. I will try to get a few videos up, at the moment I just have one on my channel of me starting the engine after she sat for a year or so.
Your channel has really helped me with a lot of things so far so cheers and keep up the good work, I have learnt a lot of stuff i didn't even know that I didn't know.
Wasn't impressed with the concept of oscillating multi-tools until I needed to make a cut similar to the one you made on the tongue and groove board. They're very handy for making surgical like cuts in those kind of situations.
For sure, you don't use them often but when you do need them they are gold.
Definitely a video explanation of Prop Walk
Prop walk.. a phenomenon NOT to be confused with its land-lubber cousin... Dock walk, which is a problem that air-ride semi-trailers experience when they're dropped at loading docks without the air suspension deflated prior to unhooking the tractor.
Stu really great video this week I love it when you talk to an expert like Adriana , like the bus guy in America!
I have 2 small boats with single diesel inboards , I would love some videos on maneuvering. . Your description of leaving the helm over and FWD /rev such a simple explanation Cheers warren
Oh I hope you don’t use that ugly blue awning sunbrella ..... so over that color! 👍
Stu, I thought landing craft had our cooled radial engines in the back of them? That is a couple of old wrecks on Omaha beach that have radials in them cheers Warren
Update I checked and the Continental W-670-9A; 7 cylinder, 4 cycle, radial gasoline 250 hp was used in the 18000+ LVT ( landing tracked vehicles) built before and thru ww11, and used on Utah beach as supply water to land vehicle. So I guess that's the beach I was riding my motorcycle back in 1977! Good to know! And as you said Detroit diesels of various types were used in various landing craft . Cheers w
Thanks mate, will do. The cover for the awning will just be the solar cells.
Im crabby poked myself in the eye with the aerial from my van! I might have Vanaerial disease!
LOL
enjoyed the episode thanks!
not having driven a shaftdrive boat, but rather wanting one, I'd love to know some of the techniques involved in handling them. can handle an outboard in my sleep (and often do, its a happy place, from a 6hp tinnie to shiny new 250, its always a good dream). would like to know some basics so Im not a total dingus when I finally take the wheel.
Yes please, drone + commentary + wheelhouse, sounds very good. and your delivery is excellent, you speak my language. thanks for all the great vids (y)
As an Electrician: " I didn't know what the wires were for so I cut them off". I am still rolling...
You can’t trace a wire that has been cut off
... it’s not rocket science chap.
I always give the sparks a bit of time to sort everything out, then just chop it all out..... when they turn up a week late you should hear the whining..