THE FINALE 😬 | Chasing Down A Dream | Zwift Academy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Who will secure their place in the peloton next year? After three gruelling episodes its all come down to this! Watch all episodes of Chasing Down A Dream on Eurosport and Discovery Plus from 20th February.
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Anton's career isn't over by the way. He's riding for Bike Aid CT and rode the Tour of Antalya pro race this month, finishing 8th on the mountain stage, right in front of Alpecin's Alex Bogna, former ZA winner. He's still very much in the picture.
He is very strong for sure, but his attitude was not great at times imo. Hopefully he will mature a bit and could become a really good rider.
Alex Bogna seems to me to be the worst Zwift Academy choice so far.
@@steffenandersensahl9443don’t believe everything that you see on TH-cam. It’s framed, cut into pieces and taken out of context ;) there’s plenty other stuff available from him online, make yourself your own picture.
Among the continental teams, i believe Anton will have better exposure at Bikeaid over the Alpecin devo team. Bike aid go to some big races all over the world as opposed to the devo team which is mostly small races in Europe or national races in Belgium
@@oarcanjjo jay vine is the best rider to come out of ZA
Luis is good at crashing, which is what the team needs when crashing opponents before the sprint
Anti cav tactics are needed for the tour
Piss off
Just odd that Warner Discovery own GCN and Eurosports and opt for a new format!! Just seemed a bit flat and uninspiring and why use Matt Stevens so sparingly when hes such a great presenter! Seems having lost GCN+ they are just going to be focussed purely on TH-cam content!
Well done to you both :-)
Sigh Gaffu
I believe other Pro Teams will consider taking the other two. Especially teams which are more focused on GC
I hope so. They were all pretty good. I wish i had theyr legs lmao
we share this video in their profiles, they must know them 🙌🏼
First time I’ve got to say I definitely preferred the way GCN produced this series over this year. Usually really like Mat’s series, but the format GCN used was more enjoyable
Absolutely agree. Thought the same. Felt a bit cold and kind of scripted this year. Liked the previous editions so much more.
Same feelings about the overall series this year.
Although I prefer this year's testing format, not using Zwift races in the final is better.
looks like a "lower budget production"
I was thinking the _exact_ same thing.
Yeah this finale too was super underwhelming
Alpecin Deceuninck at every Zwift Academy Finals: "oh you are the youngest, welcome to the team". What a surprise!
There’s certainly plenty of ageism in this contest which I m not surprised. Much like last year where chiara was the dominant rider but canyon sram took the young Alex instead
@@evanR09-2yes: welcome to pro sports, where age matters!
@@pl4free I think I m quite aware of that already but if it wasn’t for Anton’s attitude, he would have gotten the contract. However, bike aid is a better opportunity when it comes to continental teams. They compete all over the world even Asia and Africa as opposed to the Devo team where it’s mostly in Europe.
Plus 24 isn’t that old. Vine was 24-25 when he was chosen and Vergalito was 26
yeah, these guys are more interested in developing somebody very young for the future as opposed to having somebody for the pro team now. they already have enough pro guys now, they want to mold a young guy to have for when the present pros are fading in a couple of years. It was the good decision, development is the better choice most of the time.
Anton was just too aggressive for a team player, but since he's also racing, all good for everybody.
Anton is already very very professional in training. It is not normal that „amateur“ guys are meassuring their vo2 max and lactate at their own, so he is very much into this. It is very possible that the young guy will get the same or better numbers in 2-3 years.
Anton rides for a decent Conti team in Bike Aid and finished an impressive 7th place in 2.1 race Tour of Antalya, he's getting a Pro Tour contract next year in my opinion.
It’s not about his watts, it’s about his personality…
Depends if his attitude improves, if you can't follow orders and have those outbursts no one will want you at the highest level.
judging a climber like gaffu on a 4minute effort smh
It’s almost like they’re not a climbers team
@@vivelevelo9232 Why even bring him there then, It was clear from his stats and previous achievements that his main thing is climbing
@@rickfid99 agreed. Other teams should look into the other riders tbh. Anton would be a great fit for Wanty for example. And Mattia for a team like Eolo-Cometa or something.
probably they were not searching for a climber but a classic hunter.
Great to see the women congratulating each other after they found out who won! I know how disappointing the news must have been! Good sportsmanship!
Anton embarrassed himself reacting like that. Being in a team is not about numbers. He seems arrogant. Maybe that’s what will get him to the top in future but as an aspiring pro, be more humble.
I agree, but let's don't be too harsh with him. He fought hard, was the best and yet it was not enough for this unique chance. Can be frustrating, but that's what it is
yeah there are never any good arrogant athletes
He not arrogant he seems to be a little autistic
It’s a tough moment for him, I agree he didn’t react well but I’m sure it was hard. He’s on a conti team and I hope he does well.
it takes a life of training to reach those number ... then he get by far the best number and then they decided the personality doesnt fit .. it's easy to judge from a sofa
Avete preso il più panno di tutti
I understand Anton was disappointed, but his reaction was quite embarrassing. He needs to be more mature, although it’s good I guess he’s on a team now.
Hopefully just taking some counseling and work on the psychological component. He has the physical attributes to make it far.
Probably a key reason he wasn't picked.
Differences were minor among the men. Luis was the youngest, and Mattia had the nicest personality. Not surprised with results.
Maddie destroyed the other ones in the TT. Well deserved!
Anton's reaction proved that they made the right decision. What a contrast to the way in which Mattia accepted the decision. One of them would bind a team the other would divide it.
One thing I really enjoyed about this years production is hearing more from the coaches. It was very interesting to hear more about what they were looking for and thinking during the contest.
It is impossible that Gaffuri is not contacted for an internship by other teams.
It seems impossible but it's true😢
I felt so hard for Anton having the best numbers and not getting the spot. But from a team´s perspective I can understand the decision taking the younger guy... Pro cycling is tough...
Not just age, but his attitude was another part of the problem. Didnt see him being as cooperative as the other two
I still think that if He was the same age they would have selected Anton ;)
@@styke8639 what was wrong with his attitude?
Anton is too much focused just on Anton would be a better
Match for triathlon
@@styke8639and the way he reacted to to the decision was totally unprofessional and corroborated the teams decision
Seems like Anton that they are looking for a team player. Teams do not win when they do not act like a team and everyone is out for themselves. Maybe he can reflect or perhaps go to track racing where it is all in for yourself.
I just don't get it where you get this impression from. One zwift race shows you that he is not a team player? Maybe that was also framing. After all it's a TV production and they show you what they want you to believe. Creating a story sometimes is more important than truth.
@@distel7561 you could be right. but more than a few instances where he gave that impression. Given that his numbers were across the board better why do you think he was let go?
@@tonyp4536i guess they know somehow they the younger one can catch those bigger numbers a bit... and probably they are looking for a slave (so-called team player in cycling)
His reaction didn’t do him any favours either
@tonyp4536 because he's older
WTF was that cut of the womens winner reveal? Who was supposed to follow any of that?
The editing has been so jarring and confusing, I think they were trying to create suspense but it just looks odd and makes it hard to follow for the viewer.
A winner reveal edit needs to build suspense and intrigue.
The women’s edit did this way more than the men.
Even the actual winner was surprised. And the editing conveyed this really well to me.
It seemed to be purposefully ambiguous and that definitely helped maintain my interest.
Why invite 24 year olds and then keep quoting there age.
I strongly agree
The two female runner ups both had a really fantastic attitude
It's clear they made up their mind since episode 1. They were extremely biased toward the younger rider. It's understandable, because it takes years to fully develop a world tour rider, but they should just cap the candidates by age if they clearly don't want someone over a certain age.
Last year same crap.
Maddie was the right choice and a great choice. Lovely personality and great rider - wishing her all the best for the next 12 months with the team.
They don't choose winners they choose whatever they like if the main thing is the age stop choosing older people and waisting their time Anthony was the true winner previous edition were much better this was a joke
Easiest prediction ever they’d pick the youngest rider.
The problem is these guys could make it in other teams. Alpecin is just focused on more punchier and sprinter riders. Just not the right team but they are sponsored by Zwift so… I’d go with Mattia - great personality, great fatigue numbers. Basically get him an Ineos spot!
It's the development team anyway. If he's any good, he'll get picked up on a world tour contract next year. I would agree that Alpecin is not the well suited team for his type of riding, but other teams will look at him if he can show some results.
The Roodhoft bros. seems to not be very good selecting their finalist, why pick 2 GC like riders just to pick the one that is not basing the desition on a less tha 4min power test, also why pick 2 24 year old ones when is obvious you will pick the 19 year old... its like if they rigged it, next time pick the best 3 at the same rider type and age! also 2nd year that they sign the winner to the development team... the zwift academy should have alpecin deckeunick development team as a asponsor and not the main team
Unfortunately it's because Alpecin don't get to choose who the finalists are. The finalists come through the Zwift Academy competition, so Alpecin has no choice who shows up for the final. I agree that this system is flawed though. I think they should either go back to having 5 finalists for each team - so that there's more choice for Alpecin - or from the outset, set an age limit on Zwift Academy. Or, they could let Alpecin monitor the Zwift Academy competition, and pick the finalists themselves, so that the final is actually between riders that Alpecin wants.
Because otherwise, we always end up in this situation where Alpecin is given a bunch of finalists that are mostly unsuitable for their team/finalists with big age gaps, and it makes the whole thing look rigged.
Hanno preso uno che è caduto e che ha fatto i valori pou scarsi e che in cima alla salita era morto😂😂😂se doveva farne un altra faceva la meta dei watt😂...zio mafia
condividiamo questo video
tagghiamo altri team e magari viene visto e preso in considerazione da un altra squadra 🙌🏼
ma avete visto la faccia di mattia quando Anton ha detto i suoi Watt...gia' sapeva di aver perso 7.88w/kg e poi ovviamente hanno scelto il piu' giovane
Si ma se li provi su 3 minuti è chiaro che non cerchi uno scalatore allora prendi quello che ha più watt no perché è incontrollabile allora prendi l’altro 😂
Magic Mattia 😎
Character > Big stats!
I would love to see a video on where are they now. Not only the previous winners, but, even the other participants. Like did any other teams happen to see Zwift academy finals and then decided to invest in any of the aspiring riders?
Now that is a great idea. I’d like to see that also
This series is always produced terribly. The winner is always announced int he most anti-climactic way possible and the progress of the riders is so difficult to follow. Even in the Zwift race sections, one minute someone has been dropped, then in the next cut they’re attacking off the front? So strange. Such a simple series to develop, please do better next season 🤞🏼
Gaffuri ha il Kom sullo Stelvio per la cronaca😮
Il fatto è che a quanto pare non cercavano uno scalatore puro. Gaffu sui 30/40 minuti tira fuori valori allucinanti, qui li hanno giudicati sui 4min (senza dare neanche troppa importanza ai valori assoluti tra l'altro). Spero veramente che Gaffu venga visto da qualche team perché se lo merita con tutto il cuore
condividiamo questo video
tagghiamo altri team e magari viene visto e preso in considerazione da un altra squadra 🙌🏼
Well done, all six of you!
Most of us wouldn't get such numbers and performance in a lifetime!
Especially Maddie showed great development in her skills in the time before (!) the academy. 🇿🇦
Laura, I like your dream to develop women's cycling in Slovenia. You will make your way like the others.
All had the possibility to shine, and there are other teams out there.
To cut it down to just 4 short chapters with riders of that potential is a bit sad but thx though... guess the other guys will be picked as well by other teams for sure
I'm very disappointed about the winner... he got the winning just about his age..
Anton had impressive numbers but we all see he needs to improve to handle the bike...
Mattia had to be the winner without a doubt! Really unfair final...
Forza Gaffu, non mollare che entri tra i pro lo stesso... nn c'è verso che nn trovi squadra uno come te... assurdo... impossibile.
I love how everybody knows everything that happend during all 4 days but noone was there and each episode was like 10 minutes. Before you humble Anton, try to find out what really happened, because there were a lot of understatements in the videos and it's funny how easy it is to manipulate your perception.
Semms you know more than ecerybody else. So please, tell us.
Honestly this whole series I kept forgetting who was who… you need to edit better.
#GaffuRobbed this remind me of #ChiaraRobbed
Non sempre il merito conta come la convenienza. Evidentemente in Italia diamo un significato alla ZA che non rispecchia il suo vero significato. Spero tanto che Gaffu trovi una squadra che gli consenta di esprimere e accrescere il suo potenziale.
Chiara was 40 or so - be serious
@@czeckson74the question is if age plays a key factor why even consider to bring them into the final?
@@mattiapalombi1597 this can only answer the producers
GCN did a much better job especially with the format and their production
daje Gaffu te lo meriti!
Hanno preso quello con la skill della caduta? 😂
great series, but it has to be said that the @GCN productions were much better. Better production and format. Also strange that there was almost no zwifting. Of course, road is by far the most important in selecting a rider for a team, but the zwift races added a lot of fun to the format.
Nope, the series was great! Stop bringing negativity into this space - no need to leave such comment!
Completely agree. There was no connection to the riders with these series
@@gabrielmazza7923 you still here patrolling for the positivity police?
@@gabrielmazza7923 no negative feelings please - no need to leave such a comment
@@cornishalps9870 Agree! Get out of here
Ok now I am fan of Anton ... cheering to prove them wrong
I find it funny people say Anton's attitude sucks. You may as well say Mathieu or Wout's attitude sucks. Winners have huge self belief, bordering on arrogant. Not saying this guy has their talent, but for sure if he did have their talent without the self-belief he wouldn't make it in cycling. You gotta have a bit of an edge. The other two; career domestics for sure.
Unfair from the start, it was obvious they were gonna pick Louis, he wasn’t better than the other 2 at anything but he’s 19 so he got it, they need to do a better job of having everyone the same age so it can be fair
Again, this episode proved the GCN production was so much more enjoyable. Did not like that basic winner announcement. Still a very interesting series to watch and follow, but for next editions hope they get back to previous years format!
Not taking Gaffu seems like the dumbest thing ever.
I mean he's good, but Alpecin is not a GC team at all, so if they're gonna take on a GC rider to build a team around, he's gonna to have to be Vingegaard 2.0, or it's not worth it. I think other teams should be looking at this and trying to sign him asap though, he deserves a contract.
Let's be real, this is all more a sollicitation for a pro team, than a true academy with a winner... but fair choices, Louis and Maddie are great aditions to these teams and others are hopefully considered by other teams
Yeah... where are past winners of the swift academy (apart from vine) If they had any sucess, they would be here
@@bernardo9202 I guess you don't watch women's cycling
@@bernardo9202 I guess you don't watch cycling: Luca Vergallito is now in the WT team and Maddie Oudemont is with Visma Lease a bike Women Team. Not bad, eh?
@bernardo9202 The woman that won it the same year as Jay Vine just got 3rd in GC in Tour Down Under and 2nd in GC in UAE Tour. So Neve Bradbury is another great story from Zwift Academy.
Edit: Not to mention Vergallito that won last year that is currently on Alpecin's WT team. He has decent results. The year that Jay Vine won was also the first year that Alpecin was involved.
@@Je-Razor yeah just saw Luca, last year's winner, is also doing good. Don't understand why they don't show them then
Un signore anche nella sconfitta il Gaffu, imparate...
Seems like Anton was too arrogant for the team.
not arrogant but self confident
so self confident he couldn't accept their decision @@lolarennt69
Fair decisions. About men. Team DS must look on their team preferencies and goals. Alpecin was right and Anton was like an offended child who was not given a favorite toy. Remember last year Chiara? She was the best and she did not win contract. And girls, Maddie was far the best of them.
I love Maddie personality 👍 They're all good racers
Age is just a number, but numbers aren't age for Alpecin. So sad. Always age over power numbers, bike handling, confidence et cetera 😢
Anton will make Alpecin regret their decision soon 🦍🤝🏻
Might be, might be not. Anton has good skills, but he is no team player and hates to follow orders.
hates 😂
it's what they portray, like a reality tv series...@
@look his strava post, there he explains everything going on in the background
So you think, all was scripted?
Anton's behaviour after the decision seemed more like a defiant child than like a reflected grown-up. (Even) if this was only "performed", it's no good reputation.
Vola Gaffu ❤
OMG - was sure Anton would make it. Keeping fingers crossed he‘ll be picked by a pro team.
Antons reaction to the decision = the reason for the decision, simple as that.
After watching this I don't think I'd want to ride of Alpecin. Both of the coaches just seemed like people wouldn't get on well with. Their minds were made up from day one when they found out the ages.
Daje gaffu
Forza Gaffu!!! 💪💪💪 Planali
Alpecin doesnt want to win? Lower power, cant handle the bike is it really your pick?
this format is a bit unfair on close numbers of course they will always choose the youngest one, it makes sense from a team prospective but not fair at all for the other stronger competitor.....maybe good for the team but not for the show
Anton made a statement on strava if anybody is wondering, don't blame him too much for his reaction. His statement:
"Before the Zwift race, we were instructed to protect the other two Alpecin riders. That's all they said, no specific tactics on how we should do it. The course we rode was flat with two climbs. From what I know about Zwift racing, it doesn't make much sense to ride at the front when it's flat. In road cycling you ride at the front to avoid crashes and to be able to react to attacks. In Zwift races, the opposite is true. There are no crashes and it's easier to counter attacks from the middle of the pack because you get all the draft boost when you accelerate. So while you're riding hard at the front, all the other riders are chilling behind you and when things get serious, you're tired and can't help. That's why I stayed in the pack at the beginning.
After a while I got the instruction to ride more at the front, which I did. The next instruction I got was to save energy and try something on the climb. They didn‘t show that in the video, but it was the reason why I didn't pull after that. On the climb, I broke away from the group with Axel from Alpecin and rode as hard as I could with him (last 10mins of the race at 404 watt avg). Later we were caught and the rest is history.
On the video, I seemed too stupid to listen to the instructions, but they didn't show my instruction to conserve energy for the climb and later criticized me for doing just that. Makes no sense to me 🙃
But in the end, you have to remember that the whole thing is a big show, so a bit of drama is welcome."
But then again, still showing the same attitude..i am better that everyone and it was theire fault...
He was just a very sore loser
@@troycollett8540 Dude, how do you get that from this? Sore loser from a guy with WT numbers? You only wish. Guys on the internet...
Doesn't surprise me, like Christoph Roodhooft knows how Zwift works 😂. Anton did the wrong thing by doing the right thing. Welcome to pro cycling.
quite enjoyed this series. best of luck to all these athletes.
Terrible editing for this year’s edition. Last year’s was way more entertaining
Why does it seem like no matter what they always just go with the youngest rider??
Because they do.
Last year's series was way better, more hype, longer episodes, more insides. Quality is incredible in this one, but still enjoyed more the 2023 versione.
CONGRATZ MADDIE PROUD SOUTH AFRICAN! well deserved. and ofc to the rest of the riders
Why not put an age cap on the zwift academy or different age brackets. No one was ever going to hire a 33 year old, basically nearly cycling retirement age.
When they gonna replace alpecin? They choose the youngest rider every year …
I mean it makes sense but I don’t see what the point in having them on is you know who they pick every year.
chiediamo al Brambo di metterci una buona parola con i team italiani ❤
Purtroppo il Gaffu non è riuscito a passare
Really missing the excitement in this season. Previous years were much more enjoyable to watch. The contest aspect was much more prominent before also having more riders. This year it seems very much like a documentary. I like Matt as a presenter but here it seems like he is talking about a terrible cycling tragedy instead of bringing the excitement.
Attitude is quite important for any industry!
Congrats on your performance, Anton! The guys who know you can confirm that your team spirit is very strong. So look forward and show your strengths on the bike 🔜
Enjoyed this seasons but I feel previous seasons have been a lot better in terms of production
I feel like even though the level of riders was so high, the production value was so low they didn't make me care about the riders, their stories and who they are. Very bland feeling. Being back GCN next year.
@TourdeTietema nog interessante renners voor volgend seizoen? en misschien ook wel een idee voor jullie zo'n competitie?
Excellent choice, well deserved congratulations to both of you !!!
Anton has the numbers.. the others are not good enough to really win races
not all the guys in a team are there to personally win races?
@@MB-ji7gothe more riders you have capable of pulling the numbers to win races the better.
@@wowcherub sure, but as they said, he is 19 and not that long into cycling ... so much potential still to gain
Maddy reminds me of Cecile Ludwig. I think they shd limit the age to 30 as clearly that is an auto minus.
Choise is understandable looking to the age, as they say "is the most teacheable". In my opinion this kind of selection like "zwift accademy" in the next future will became the most important talent discovering channel for cycling... I know traditional cycling will complaint, but the future comes always with a cut to the past 😊
Maddie🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
secondo me Gaffuri era superiore considerando che è un amatore , ma lo spirito di prendere qualcuno di giovane era evidente... auguro a Gaffuri di aver avuto un minimo di visibilità per poter essere preso in qualche squadra dato che i numeri non gli mancano .
Si plana
Well done Maddie! Flying the flag so high!
Vai gaffuuuuu
Very proud Bloem supporter, congrats Maddy!
There’s always an advantage to a young rider, remember Sam Hill from the 2021 ZA, he won almost every challenge and race, but he was ruled out because of his age.
a 94 vo2max doesn´t lie :D
Who was this?
Anton, look at his Strava :)@@SailFast2007
Anton!@@SailFast2007
Was much better on GCN
Yeah Maddie!!!!! 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 so proud!
@camue4259
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I think they tried to make the decision for the youngest more understandable by displaying the best in an unfavorable way. Anton is a very sympathic and empathic cyclist, coaching amateurs and having a huge knowledge about sports science, which he shares very openly. But as they already cut the ‚70 percent‘ in the trailer (the day before he estimated his chance to win to 70%, and in the trailer for the finals one just heard ‚I am sure I will win‘) it was clear that they wanted to discredit Anton in the eyes of the viewer. Not a fair way!
Canyon copia la jumbo...uno ha il pescivendolo e adesso loro il magazziniere del supermercato...😂😂😂
Gaffu testato sui 4'🤦🏻♂️ non cercano uomini da classifica per non costruirci una squadra attorno. Il livello dei 3 era alto, bastava specificare "prendiamo il più giovane". Mettete un limite d'età nella prossima edizione 🙄
So proud of you Maddie, South Africa represent!!!
Just shows Zwift is a genuine tool for the pro peloton and amateurs alike!