All of NE is underrated actually, in my opinion they’re the best & most successful singing group of all time, this generation oughta know more about them, & look to them for inspiration, I know the album I’m working on was influenced by them somewhat.
JG's vocals were so dynamic it really added so much to this group. Especially in the background and adlibbing portions. It just added so much flavor, it's amazing.
Marley Mal so true I feel Johnny brought that mature adult sound I think the Heartbreak album is what allowed the others to branch out and do their solos. I might be in the minority in saying New Edition became a better group when Bobby left and Bobby was able to shine on his own. But the addition of JG turned them into men.
Dwayne D Bro I totally agree, they became men on the Heartbreak album and JG's vocals and presence made it that way. He took them from a teen pop sound to a more traditional R&B. After this album everyone went on to be incredible in their solo projects. I agree about Bobby too, they were great with him but when he left and went solo he blew up and so did NE with JG. All of those guys are amazing.
Marley Mal Exactly. I think with a lot of these groups one's departure leads to the group's gain and individual success. Bobby had his issues but had star quality. Ralph was the de facto lead singer but he needed a strong voice like Johnny Gill to balance his voice out. It's almost like having a falsetto and needing a bass voice to for harmony, although Ralph was a natural tenor. When Bobby left you found that Ricky had vocals too, which led to the BBD success. They grew. We can go back to the Temptations. David Ruffin had a powerful voice but I believe that the group became better without him rather with him with the addition of Dennis Edwards. But anyway I can break this down all day I enjoy talking music.
Dwayne D Lol same here man, I can go on and on about this music, I totally agree with you on the different dynamics of both groups. There's definitely parallels between the two. Did you watch the first part of The New Edition Story? I thought it was pretty dope.
Marley Mal Yep definitely saw part one. The big thing I noticed is none of them had fathers, and the mothers were banking in on them for their success. That deal they signed as kids was beyond disastrous they were working for free. Also I did noticed that Bobby was portrayed a little older at the beginning but he is actually the youngest member of the group so when they formed he was 9 while Ricky, Mike and Ralph had to be 10 and 11. Ralph seemed like he had the most sense out of the boys he was loyal. Can't wait to see the other parts. Again you see at the early stage that without having guidance from fathers can do.
@blackturkdog, David Ruffin has a super masculine wondrous voice. Dennis Edwards was good but no-one to this day can come close to David's voice and the way he tackled the lyrics while going in and out of his falsetto. Don't forget that he made the Temptations when they came out with My Girl. He lead several hits during his reign: My Girl, I'm Losing You, I wish it would Rain, You're Lose a Precious Love, Beauty's Only Skin Deep, co-lead on You're My Everthing, and last song, I Could Never Love Another. No one can tough the late great David Ruiffin. RIP
@@shinekonyah5963 Exactly, David Ruffin was an extra special vocalist. I listen to their music all the time with David leading. The dynamics of his voice was brilliant. You'll Lose A Precious Love and I Could Never Love Another are incredible, and Statue Of A Fool, heartfelt and soulful to the bone.
@@shinekonyah5963 hmmmm stop it. David was bad, but if broken down without bias, Dennis was.just as good, and sometimes better. Dennis was able to sing rhythmic lyrics better than David, such as Cloud 9. David would do better on songs such as "My girl", that require a subtle softness. De nis just had to take it to church whenever he sang, but he had a very strong falsetto. I advise you to check out "I'm losing you" live. He wore that song all the way out.. But, my favorite lead Temp is the one and only Ali Ollie Woodson. Without bias, he was much better than David. He could sing in a growl, soft, church style, much higher falsetto, better dancer, you name it. Also, you need to actually look at documentaries. Many of motwon people believe Levi Stubbs was the best singer in the motwon family, followed by Margin Gaye. Otis himself said, and I quote, "Levi Stubbs was always a problem. If the Four Tops knew how to dance we would be in trouble." Dont let swag distract you from the actual art. It's like when Lil Wayne was hot. He was out because of his swag, but everyone knows he was wack as hell as a lyricist. Difference is David could actually blow. He could sing his butt off and was a bad boy, but to say no one can touch him is utterly ridiculous. Being original doesn't make you the best.
They were the temptations of our time. If you heard the song playing. Not matter who you are. You had to start singing this. And someone else would always join in lol
I REMEMBER THE NIGHT THIS AIRED. IT WAS ABOUT 1130PM I HAD SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY BUT I HAD TO STAY UP AND RECORD THIS ON THE VCR. THANK GOD IT WAS A SNOW DAY THE NEXT DAY. I WATCHED THIS ALL DAY LONG.
My mom was in love with Ralph when she was coming up and after watching this performance I can clearly see why. Those vocals were on point and he definitely was fine!
Judging from some of the comments, some of yall haven't done your homework on what acapella/harmony singing is....So It's Time to set the record straight for those who don't know the New Edition Vocal Set-Up: Ralph Tresvant - Main Lead Singer/2nd Tenor Bobby Brown - 2nd Lead Singer/2nd & sometimes 1st Tenor Ricky Bell - 3rd Lead Singer/1st, 2nd Tenor & Baritone Ronnie Devoe - 2nd Tenor/Baritone & Occasional lead Michael Bivins - Baritone/Bass & Occasional lead Johnny Gill - 4th Lead Singer/1st Tenor, 2nd Tenor & Baritone New Edition sang as a group on every last one of their albums and there are even clips of NE recording their parts for the "Heartbreak" album with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis..Then there are songs like "Maryanne" where all 5 New Edition members sing lead & sound good...DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE SPEAKING ON WHO CAN'T SING
This Brings Back So Many Memories I Was Actually In The Audience Checking Out Our Bro's N.E. But Had To Get Back To The Studio With The Group We Had Just Started Working On Our 2nd Cd Troop Attitude...TROOP&NEW EDITION Fam...Fa'Life One Love Fa'Sho...
These guys is all that and more God has blessed them on the journey on the journey they are awesome the most wonderful groups in the world and I love them so much New Edition you guys are so amazing❤❤
I love the flamboyance, style, and flair which Ralph brings to every performance. He always adds a nice sparkling "finish" to his dance sequences. In this outfit, he is reminiscent of a young Gregory Hines. It is a wonder that Ralph never learned to do tap. He seems to be able to perform all different styles of music and dance artforms (solo, rap, beatbox, shuffle, freestyle, new jack swing, early '80's street style break dancing, etc). Even MJ dabbled into tap, and was influenced by Fred Astaire in that regard. On some of the Jacksons' 1970's television spoofs, there were scenes where Michael showed off his tap dance skills and wore outfits with hats, as Ralph is doing here. One aspect where MJ and Ralph differ is that Ralph has swag, raps, and has street cred, whereas MJ dabbled into tap, and did soul, pop and disco. I would have loved to see Ralph try his hand (in his prime) of singing that soul song which Mike sang as a kid, which I believe was, "Whose lovin' You".
loved watching arsenio back in my days it's just sad that when he came back after 20 yrs it didn't last I would have at least the viewers from back in my generation would have kept him going......
D. Vader you are wrong. Johnny Gill was the best thing that happened to NE because he added a maturity to the group that took them away from that teenie bopper sound. Also Johnny Gill is a super dynamic singer and was a star in his own right who was successful as a solo artist before joining New Edition. He also put on a great show in 1991 here in Pontiac MI AKA Detroit at Meadowbrook Theater with a very receptive mixed crowd who enjoyed every minute of his show. Johnny never changed outfits during his performance and at the end everybody in his entourage including the janitors who swept the floor danced on stage as the show rapped.
I remember when this aired. I was sitting right in front of my floor model tv screaming my lungs out like I was sitting in the audience.....Love me some NE especially Rizz....Oh and by the way I also remember loving their outfits!!!!
YES INDEED ! but may I also add that Ronnie & Mike are great background singers & were really good at their occasional vocal parts that they were given..Ronnie sang a LOT on the Heartbreak album and the first 2 albums...not to mention that Ralph can rap his ass off too...him & Bobby were gonna put out an hIp-Hop/R&B album
Johnny Gill's voice is so amazing. One of the most underrated singers ever
The music industry don't want talent
Miss Johnson Sad but true
Kurt Adams yess they just want you to be naked and sell your soul
All of NE is underrated actually, in my opinion they’re the best & most successful singing group of all time, this generation oughta know more about them, & look to them for inspiration, I know the album I’m working on was influenced by them somewhat.
JG is hardly underrated & N.E. is not even best of their generation
JG's vocals were so dynamic it really added so much to this group. Especially in the background and adlibbing portions. It just added so much flavor, it's amazing.
Marley Mal so true I feel Johnny brought that mature adult sound I think the Heartbreak album is what allowed the others to branch out and do their solos. I might be in the minority in saying New Edition became a better group when Bobby left and Bobby was able to shine on his own. But the addition of JG turned them into men.
Dwayne D Bro I totally agree, they became men on the Heartbreak album and JG's vocals and presence made it that way. He took them from a teen pop sound to a more traditional R&B. After this album everyone went on to be incredible in their solo projects. I agree about Bobby too, they were great with him but when he left and went solo he blew up and so did NE with JG. All of those guys are amazing.
Marley Mal Exactly. I think with a lot of these groups one's departure leads to the group's gain and individual success. Bobby had his issues but had star quality. Ralph was the de facto lead singer but he needed a strong voice like Johnny Gill to balance his voice out. It's almost like having a falsetto and needing a bass voice to for harmony, although Ralph was a natural tenor. When Bobby left you found that Ricky had vocals too, which led to the BBD success. They grew. We can go back to the Temptations. David Ruffin had a powerful voice but I believe that the group became better without him rather with him with the addition of Dennis Edwards. But anyway I can break this down all day I enjoy talking music.
Dwayne D Lol same here man, I can go on and on about this music, I totally agree with you on the different dynamics of both groups. There's definitely parallels between the two. Did you watch the first part of The New Edition Story? I thought it was pretty dope.
Marley Mal Yep definitely saw part one. The big thing I noticed is none of them had fathers, and the mothers were banking in on them for their success. That deal they signed as kids was beyond disastrous they were working for free. Also I did noticed that Bobby was portrayed a little older at the beginning but he is actually the youngest member of the group so when they formed he was 9 while Ricky, Mike and Ralph had to be 10 and 11. Ralph seemed like he had the most sense out of the boys he was loyal. Can't wait to see the other parts. Again you see at the early stage that without having guidance from fathers can do.
Soon as you hear " cause I need somebooodddyyyy " girls just scream . 🙌🏽
so true 😂😂😂😂😂
women too lol
That's all we need!
To this day !!
Fr tho 💝😂😂
I have repeated Ralph singing "cause I need somebody" about a thousand times
Can't fake that first line Ralph sung. His voice came in STRONG. "NEEEEED"
@Cam James strong & clear...@1:39 Sunny days, everybody loves them
Nah for me, it was that "SOOOOOME-body who will stand by me" his voice came in strong on that
Ralph sounds waaaaay better here than the actual track.
What you call a professional show. The band is tight, the singers are on point, the dance moves are crisp. Take notes future musicians.
+UNDFTDGordon lol @ the dance moves. k den
+UNDFTDGordon Timberlake took those notes =)
Johnny Gill's "ooooh" gives me goosebumps, what a voice !!, I love myself some Ralph tresvant
NHLAKANIPHO Mbambo yes!! I love me some Ralph to.
Arsenio Hall was the best late night show ever!
Ralph killed it he can beatbox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!!
ralph sounded so good omg i love this
+kourtney tabellion lol Sorry No....Johnny the only one did his thang
nah, go to 1:23 when Ralph started the verse. Incredible notes.
I had no idea Ralph's live vocals were so audibly strong.
his mic sounds like it's a whole level above everyone else's
I feel like johnnys voice is the strongest. Ralph's is just the highest.
Todd Levy amazing
Kyle summers Johnny has the most powerful voice, followed by Ralph & Ricky, than my man Bobby Brown
Todd Levy don’t sleep on Ralph
OMGGGG WHEN RALPH STARTED SINGING 😍😍😍😍😍.
Ralph and Johnny were and always will be the voices of NE, very similar to David and Eddie with the temptations.
Great comparison!!
True
And Ricky is Paul. A great voice that held the group together vocally. Underrated, the both of them.
More like Dennis and Eddie bobby would be more like David
Ralph made me melt in this performance!!!
Johnny Gill was to NE what Dennis Edwards was to the Temps after Ruffin left.
He gave them a grown up sound. a real masculine voice to the group.
@blackturkdog, David Ruffin has a super masculine wondrous voice. Dennis Edwards was good but no-one to this day can come close to David's voice and the way he tackled the lyrics while going in and out of his falsetto. Don't forget that he made the Temptations when they came out with My Girl. He lead several hits during his reign: My Girl, I'm Losing You, I wish it would Rain, You're Lose a Precious Love, Beauty's Only Skin Deep, co-lead on You're My Everthing, and last song, I Could Never Love Another. No one can tough the late great David Ruiffin. RIP
@@shinekonyah5963 Exactly, David Ruffin was an extra special vocalist. I listen to their music all the time with David leading. The dynamics of his voice was brilliant. You'll Lose A Precious Love and I Could Never Love Another are incredible, and Statue Of A Fool, heartfelt and soulful to the bone.
@@shinekonyah5963 David didn't make them Eddie originally did their first hits were Eddie singing lead
@@shinekonyah5963 hmmmm stop it. David was bad, but if broken down without bias, Dennis was.just as good, and sometimes better. Dennis was able to sing rhythmic lyrics better than David, such as Cloud 9. David would do better on songs such as "My girl", that require a subtle softness. De nis just had to take it to church whenever he sang, but he had a very strong falsetto. I advise you to check out "I'm losing you" live. He wore that song all the way out..
But, my favorite lead Temp is the one and only Ali Ollie Woodson. Without bias, he was much better than David. He could sing in a growl, soft, church style, much higher falsetto, better dancer, you name it.
Also, you need to actually look at documentaries. Many of motwon people believe Levi Stubbs was the best singer in the motwon family, followed by Margin Gaye. Otis himself said, and I quote, "Levi Stubbs was always a problem. If the Four Tops knew how to dance we would be in trouble."
Dont let swag distract you from the actual art. It's like when Lil Wayne was hot. He was out because of his swag, but everyone knows he was wack as hell as a lyricist. Difference is David could actually blow. He could sing his butt off and was a bad boy, but to say no one can touch him is utterly ridiculous. Being original doesn't make you the best.
Rizzo, is the total package!!!
They were the temptations of our time. If you heard the song playing. Not matter who you are. You had to start singing this. And someone else would always join in lol
Johnny Gill has one of the most amazing male voices. I love this group.
I REMEMBER THE NIGHT THIS AIRED. IT WAS ABOUT 1130PM
I HAD SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY BUT I HAD TO STAY UP AND RECORD THIS ON THE VCR.
THANK GOD IT WAS A SNOW DAY THE NEXT DAY.
I WATCHED THIS ALL DAY LONG.
3:15 Pastor Johnny Gill.
it feels like there's a rock in my throat just listening to it
@@kir6449 im weak 😭😭😭😭
Ralph T is cool as hell
One the of the best performance ever !
Ralph was getting down when he was beatboxing & dancing:)
Love It !
NEW EDITION FAN FOR LIFE !
KILLED it last night at the 2017 BET Awards. A tribute so well deserved. Can You Stand the Rain will always be my favorite NE jam!
The purity in the voices and authenticity of The Arsenio Hall Show!
Ralph with the clutch wit the litty beatbox
30 years later and I STILL LOVE THIS SHIT!!!! 😊❤️😁
Best man holiday brought me here....I enjoyed this movie especially their performance remake!!!
Ralph is killin' that sh**!
I remember watching this performance that night, damn I got old quick!
Your only old as you feel. Don't feel bad.
Always loved Arsenio because all his musical guest performed live with bands.
RALPH!!! All day!!
All day, every day!
My mom was in love with Ralph when she was coming up and after watching this performance I can clearly see why. Those vocals were on point and he definitely was fine!
Great performance!! When music was real. I loved Arsenio miss this show.
Judging from some of the comments, some of yall haven't done your homework on what acapella/harmony singing is....So It's Time to set the record straight for those who don't know the New Edition Vocal Set-Up:
Ralph Tresvant - Main Lead Singer/2nd Tenor
Bobby Brown - 2nd Lead Singer/2nd & sometimes 1st Tenor
Ricky Bell - 3rd Lead Singer/1st, 2nd Tenor & Baritone
Ronnie Devoe - 2nd Tenor/Baritone & Occasional lead
Michael Bivins - Baritone/Bass & Occasional lead
Johnny Gill - 4th Lead Singer/1st Tenor, 2nd Tenor & Baritone
New Edition sang as a group on every last one of their albums and there are even clips of NE recording their parts for the "Heartbreak" album with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis..Then there are songs like "Maryanne" where all 5 New Edition members sing lead & sound good...DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE SPEAKING ON WHO CAN'T SING
Im late but u better break that shit down yassss!
Yeah man it's these Millennials who call them New Addition
Alrite now. Break it down lol
+Rico Wade grinds my gears lol
lawrence worrell thank u for that I bet they can’t even hit notes like that and they tryna talk down on NE smh
Johnny Gill was a fool with them vocals back in the day
This Brings Back So Many Memories I Was Actually In The Audience Checking Out Our Bro's N.E. But Had To Get Back To The Studio With The Group We Had Just Started Working On Our 2nd Cd Troop Attitude...TROOP&NEW EDITION Fam...Fa'Life One Love Fa'Sho...
That was a great performance.
I love this song so much.
Ralph sounds amazing & Ricky’s note @ 2:05 was great!! 🔥
Ralph my love ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
my favorite song by these guys! Love Ricky Bell what a voice...he can sing to me all day long!!
Ralph Tresvant and Jonny Gill had the killer voices. Love the group. Why did they take Arsenio off the air???
it was too black positive
These guys is all that and more God has blessed them on the journey on the journey they are awesome the most wonderful groups in the world and I love them so much New Edition you guys are so amazing❤❤
I wish I could have told them then that in 2019, they will still be poppin....#TALENT
I wish I could go back in a "time machine" to tell them, lol
I was a SR in High School when this aired and I remember watching it
I just looove Johnny's intro to this song!
I love the flamboyance, style, and flair which Ralph brings to every performance. He always adds a nice sparkling "finish" to his dance sequences. In this outfit, he is reminiscent of a young Gregory Hines. It is a wonder that Ralph never learned to do tap. He seems to be able to perform all different styles of music and dance artforms (solo, rap, beatbox, shuffle, freestyle, new jack swing, early '80's street style break dancing, etc). Even MJ dabbled into tap, and was influenced by Fred Astaire in that regard. On some of the Jacksons' 1970's television spoofs, there were scenes where Michael showed off his tap dance skills and wore outfits with hats, as Ralph is doing here. One aspect where MJ and Ralph differ is that Ralph has swag, raps, and has street cred, whereas MJ dabbled into tap, and did soul, pop and disco. I would have loved to see Ralph try his hand (in his prime) of singing that soul song which Mike sang as a kid, which I believe was, "Whose lovin' You".
I recently saw a 90's era interview where Ralph stated that he DOES perform Tap, lol!
Out of all the live versions I've heard, this is Ralph's best.
RALPH WAS CLUTCH WITH THE B-BOX 🔥🔥🔥
loved watching arsenio back in my days it's just sad that when he came back after 20 yrs it didn't last I would have at least the viewers from back in my generation would have kept him going......
"wish" sorry for the typo
1:38 johnny gill background vocals
daquan gray yesssss! I had to rewind and listen more closely. I got goosebumps lol. Did one of those "sing that shit Johnny!" 😂😂
Ralph !! LORD !!!
Dominique Miller Make that...GOOD LAWD! Lol
Never knew Ralph could b-box.
D. Vader you are wrong. Johnny Gill was the best thing that happened to NE because he added a maturity to the group that took them away from that teenie bopper sound. Also Johnny Gill is a super dynamic singer and was a star in his own right who was successful as a solo artist before joining New Edition. He also put on a great show in 1991 here in Pontiac MI AKA Detroit at Meadowbrook Theater with a very receptive mixed crowd who enjoyed every minute of his show. Johnny never changed outfits during his performance and at the end everybody in his entourage including the janitors who swept the floor danced on stage as the show rapped.
Oh my gosh, Ricky with that struggle falsetto for several seconds at 2:22 😯
My baby Ralph
2:20 lmfao that note
+Will Ibo YOU AIN'T LYING!!!! Ricky Bell missed that note by a KUNTRY MILE!!!
Yea that was bad lol
It's flat.
Lmfaooo😭😭😭
Ralph T made the group!
ralph and those mjj pelvic thrusts!
haha loove him *
Listen to I'm still in love with you acapella to hear how talented N.E. really are.
ralph the only one that dance and sing and do background singing at the same time.
RICKY BELL!!!
Beautiful ❤️ Ricky is wonderful! Sounds so pure!
I remember when this aired. I was sitting right in front of my floor model tv screaming my lungs out like I was sitting in the audience.....Love me some NE especially Rizz....Oh and by the way I also remember loving their outfits!!!!
Luv this performance Ricky did his thing
Never sleep on Ralph Tresvant.
This song brings back so many memories. This was the era of the most awesome music. I am so happy that I experienced it all.
Why was Ralph so fine? Is he still this fine?
India Drayton girl yes, still fine
yes ma'am still fine.
India Drayton like you lol
Curtis Mckinney thanks boo :)
India Drayton you welcome where are you from
Arsenic Hall show was simply slick, fun entertainment.
Johnny Gill is a beast!
that spin move by ralph at the beginning was crucial!
Johnny was my boy back in the day! I always thought he made that song what it was!
COME BACK ARSENIO...dam i miss that show!!, aint nothin like it now or since..love NE
YES INDEED ! but may I also add that Ronnie & Mike are great background singers & were really good at their occasional vocal parts that they were given..Ronnie sang a LOT on the Heartbreak album and the first 2 albums...not to mention that Ralph can rap his ass off too...him & Bobby were gonna put out an hIp-Hop/R&B album
Johnny’s addition to the group completely transformed their sound for the better..
Johnny went gospel at the end lol. Beast
He still does that
I was born 96 so I wasn't hip but I just realized the three in the middle are Bell Biv Devoe
Jay Horne 😂😂😂
Jay Horne Really? Did you really type that?😂😂😂
?
Are you freaking kidding me?!!! 😂😂😂😂
CLASSIC!!! Thank God for TH-cam. I've been looking for this ever since I lost my VHS tape with all Of The Arsenio Hall Show performances.
The absolute pinnacle best of the RNB world right here. Man i wish i was a teenager growing up during these times.
Best live version of this song
Here in april 2020 love this song
6:12 whoaaa he sounds exactly like bryshere gray! no wonder he was in that movie? i mean i havent seen it yet but i know hes in it
This is called Talent #BlackBoyJoy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯 they smash. All of them. Johnny,Ralph,Mike&Em
1:27 The spin into leaning against the wall??? SMOOTH
Smooth as silk.
Love this in so many ways ❤❤❤❤❤
Wow, how the hell did he know that there was a wall there. So dope
Best, most talented etc., boy-band everrrrr!
Indeed.
I remember this episode of Arsenio Hall
Johnny Gill crazy for those vocals
I remember this episode. I was in college. Brings back memories!
What a combination.. Ralph and Johnny ob different sides of the vocal spectrum with the three entertainers in the middle: Bell Biv Devoe!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
1:21 The ladies will always...always love Ralph.
I love Johnny's voice!
Johnny reminds me of Flash from the Five Heartbeats: he joins the group, blows up, and then goes solo!
This was the best song EVER......I LOVE IT!
definition of RNB right here, where has music like this gone???
1:02 Johnny Gill with the point though🔥🔥
They are the best
This sounds so good