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oof. i don't know man. Sounds a bit hum... scammy... vitamins rarely preserves themselves well in powder form (and the ones who can you can have for cheap pills anyway)
Although I still want you to do more Sci-Fi video's. Maybe at some point you can do a video series on Willow. Since Disney+ has a series on him and his world right now.
In the aftermath of the battle the dead Elves and Edain were piled into a mound that would be called Haudh-en-Nirnaeth (Hill of Tears)/Haudh-en-Ndengin (Hill of the Slain). Afterwards it became covered in grass becoming a green mound in a burned and ruined land of Anfauglith. Among the dead was Húrin's brother Huor, he had only been married for two months before the battle to Rían a kinswoman of Beren. Months later, Rían after giving birth to Tuor leaving him in the care of the Elves, came to the mound and died of grief when she heard no word of his fate.
The field was lost. Hope had passed away, The sun went down Beyond the sea. Dark was the hour, But day shall come again. (...) No song, no tale, Which contains all the grief. Renowned the deeds And the Victims of defeat. -Blind Guardian, 'A Dark Passage'
And also... Thus ends the fifth battle By the treachery of men the field is lost The night falls and great is the triumph of evil The league is broken The last vestige of hope lives in the hidden king Only he troubles the dark one's mind Only he could bring ruin to the black foe Though the land lies down in agony and the curse lives on A new star shall arise And a new day shall come, again
"With my eyes you'll see. And with my ears you'll hear. You troubled my day. And you've questioned my strength (But) don't mess. With the master of fate!"
Yeah also one of my favorite metal albums but it had some missed opportunities imo. They failed to mention that Fingolfin actually managed to hurt Morgoth several times with a wound that never healed. They could have made a very epic song about the host of Valinor including the Vanyar and the Noldor of Finarfin finally marching upon Angband, about Finarfin fighting with Sauron "wuth Songs of Power" wich would just be perfect to be adapted in Song (although Clamavi de Profundis') version is although awesome and maybe most importantly about Eärendil and his yourney. I actually cannot understand why they didn't really mention him at all but made a whole song about Maeglin.
@@Akren905 - Ah yes, mentioning a part of a book you like means you never see the sun... And also that you suffer from acne. Okay. Hey, why am I hearing banjo music, Gordon?
Then When Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatarni, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The night is passing!'
@@Premoguys "For there all the Noldor of Hithlum were assembled, together with Elves of the Falas and Gwindor's company from Nargothrond . . ." The Silmarillion, Of The Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad
But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlooked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: ‘*Utúlie’n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie’n aurë!* The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!’ And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: ‘*Auta i lómë!* The night is passing!’ Thank you Mr. Tolkien, we will always miss you.
I've read the Silmarillion many times. There are passages which I have come to love greatly. I will still remember this one as one of my first favorites. Tolkien does such a beautiful job of showing the power of brotherhood here, but also the effect of hope being kindled in a dark time.
I've just started reading CJRT's edited version of The Fall of Gondolin although I've already read the version he edited for Book Two of The Book of Lost Tales which was quite astonishing in its epic and tragic breadth.
I hope the coming of Tuor to Gondolin is shown with the Seven Gates of Gondolin. Each Gate was unique in its design and layout from Wood, Stone, Bronze, Iron, Silver, Gold and Steel.
Still dont understand how Morgoth was unable to find Gondolin. He had bats, ravens etc, dont know for sure about winged dragons...still...seems far streached. He is the king in Beleriand at that time.
@@deathstroke2697 I think eagles patrolled the encircling hills and mountains preventing any aerial encroachment but even then, Morgoth should've been able to work out Gondolin's location by a process of deduction so yes, it's arguable that Tolkien maybe stretched that particular plot device a little too far.
@@keyboarddancers7751 the only explanation I can think of is well *magic* as yes a process of deduction would work especially considering how close it was.
Seems like in the first age of Middle Earth at least, the more pissed off an elf is, the closer they get towards the gates of Angband and Morgoth. :D That being said, rage is always tempered by destruction as seen time and time again in Tolkien's lore. Good to keep a level head it seems! Great video W&W, looking forward to the fall of Gondolin!
It might be prudent to point out that it was the betrayal of the traitor Easterlings that prevented the eastern host from reaching their target in time. This enabled the western host to be taunted and lured.
-"Last of all the eastern force to stand firm were the Dwarves of Belegost, and thus they won renown...." . . . -"Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them."
It should noted that Húrin and his brother Huor were the first Men to arrive in Gondolin, after being rescued by Thorondor's eagles. They were allowed to leave under an oath of silence by King Turgon, even though the law of the city forbade the leaving of outsiders once they entered.
Been waiting for this for years, anybody that knows me has seen me ask for this battle many many times, thank you guys so much for giving me this beautiful glorious day 👍
Awesome video. And I am excited for the next episode. The children of hurin is one of my favorites books. It is a very complete story that really feels like saga and a tragedy mixed together so well.
This was an amazing episode. I always love the amount of info you give. Helps not just me, but others as well of having a better understanding of this lore. Thanks so much. Hope you have a great day.
Watching here from Brazil, reading "The Silmarillion" for the second time. Congratulations on the video, extremely well-explained! What a production, ladies and gentlemen. One of the best pieces of content I've had the pleasure of seeing about this incredible Tolkien world.
Only in Valinor, in the 2nd age they started to diminish, the 3 elven rings slowed that down, once the one ring was destroyed and ages past, the elves that stayed eventually passed away
@@sir2069 Diminish in nobility and power, yes. Lose immortality in any sense - absolutely not. None of them "passed away" from old age. Adult Elves do not age, period.
@dIRECT0R I didn't watch that show, and yes after the 4th age when all the elves left, the rest that stayed by the 5th or 6th age of middle Earth did vanish
@@sir2069 Maybe, maybe not. However they did, they ceertainly didn't expire from old age or disease. They will live for as long as the world does. That is explicit in the lore.
Overall amazing video, but I can't believe you left out the Aurë entuluva bit! It's the best thing in the whole Silmarillion! The funeral procession of the dwarves was awesome though.
Massive video lads, loving it! Two minor corrections: yall mentionedd, when it comes to the caption of Hurin, that it was Melkors Trollguard but it was Gothmogs Trollguard if im not mistaken :) And yall said correctly that Beleg and Mablung went with Fingon, but the animation showed them joining Maedhros forces :) No big deal at all, video is 12/10 haha
Great Video, one minor mistake though. In the Silmarillion, it is specifically mentioned, that Thingol forbid Mablung and Beleg to fight with the sons of Feanor, so they were part of the western hosts under Fingon. You placed them on the eastern side under Maedhros, wich contraticts Tolkiens writing.
Fantastic account of the battle, so much easier to visualize the actual flanking maneuvers tactics overall. Tolkien never did have enough maps. I love this series a great deal, and very much look forward to each new one as they come. The quotes are great, would love to see more thrown in, thanks so much guys.
thank you for making this video. I always have such a mess with the silmarillion saga but with this documentary I can grip at least a little. please keep on doing these
The dwarves of Belegost literally became a cause of fear to the personification of fear itself , Glaurong . Azaghal raised his warriors well . Only if Morgoth were a little brave he would be soloing the whole flanking army by himself only if someone told him he was immortal .
Another compelling great video on the war of the jewels and one its most bloody and destructive battles. Problem was that the elves for all their strength and might could never win against Morgoth with the doom of manwae upon them. As to defeat the devil in god form, they needed the power and might of his fellow gods to defeat him, which they would only gain once they had absolved themselves of their former sins.
For all they imply to care about the people of Middle-Earth, the Doom of Mandos and the actions of other Valar seems to only hamper any attempt to stop the Great Enemy. They surely seem as imperfect Greek gods.
The logic seems to be that the Valar could easily overpower Morgoth again, and someday will; he won't win forever. But in the meantime they cannot let the Elves be the victors for fear they'll go on to become even worse in their arrogance; given that the entire thing started with mass slaughter just to get their way.
First bit is not true second bit is correct . hindsight 20/20 you also have to remember. Our understanding is by the account of the elves . We have only partial picture and partial picture of that..
Let's not forget that Turgon sent several times an envoy to Valinor in order ask the Valar for aid, and the Valar denied every turn. And yet, after all these attempts, Ulmo somehow expected them to listen to his warnings later on. This is like the opposite of the "The boy who cried wolf" fable.
They are imperfect, yes, but they don’t screw with the lives like the pagan gods. Fëanor committed unspeakable crimes and made a terrible oath with his sons. In marching out to Middle Earth, Fëanor basically said that they don’t need the Valar. Ulmo tried his best to help the exiles, but pride and the Doom of Mandos worked against his efforts.
I don’t think the Valar are very comparable to the Greek pantheon, the mistakes of the Greek gods were caused selfishly pursing their all too human desires, whereas the potential mistakes by the Valar come from sincere desire but imperfect understanding in following Eru’s will for his Children, especially in balancing their charge to care for the children while respecting the free will of the Children, and the consequences that came with it
What always bothered in the aftermath of this battle is how both the Elves and the Valar unfairly treated the Easterlings and other tribes of Men from Middle-Earth. Yes, Ulfang's people betrayed the League of Maedhros, but Bór's people remained loyal and fought till the end. However, the Elves ceased all relationships with Men, aside from the Houses of Beor, Haladin and Hador, and the Valar forsook all Men from Middle-Earth. Because one clan betrayed them, the rest of the race of Men had to suffer. Is it any surprising that several clans of Men resented the Númenóreans and ended up joining Sauron during the Second and Third Ages?
The Valar abandoned Men from the start, left them to their own devices to stand against Morgoth on their own. Primitive Men trying to stand against Morgoth, which not even the Noldor could do in the peak of their might, it isnt surprising that so many were corrupted. Not only that, Eru himself punished Men for not being to withstand it. All in all, Men had the deck stacked against them, and it is surprising that so many living under the dark for generations still chose good.
@@MrRenanHappy That's true! The Valar pretty much favored the Elves from the start. Let's compare: The Valar went to war after knowing that Melkor captured and corrupted some Elves vs the Valar did nothing to prevent Morgoth from corrupting so many Men The Valar guided the Elves to Valinor in order to nurture them vs the Valar forbade Men from ever going to Valinor, including the Numenoreans, under the implicit threat of extinction The Valar kept aiding the Elves even after the Three Kinslayings vs the Valar never aided Men in general The Valar were willing to forgive the Sons of Feanor (aka the guys that commited three kinslayings and that stole two Silmarills) vs the Valar abandoned the Men from Middle-Earth because some of them bought into Morgoth's lies and joined the latter
@@lisboah Ah, but the men have the Gift of Iluvatar: Death. How is that a gift? Well, of all the races, men are the only ones who actually leave the world of Arda when they die. Where they go no one knows (not even Mandos), but the key thing is that they go somewhere special to be with Eru Iluvatar (Tolkien alludes this to be a secular form of Heaven). Elves, meanwhile, are stuck on Arda forever. They cannot get out and they won't ever be with Eru Iluvatar, which from a certain perspective is a fate worse than death. They have nowhere better to look forward to, when they die they go to the Halls of Waiting and wait until the end of the world which may take so long it might feel like meaningless eternity. The dwarves? They were made by Aule the Smith and so are part of the physical land. The elves believe that when the dwarves die they return to the stone from whence they came , but they are stuck on Arda like everyone else even though they don't go to the Halls of Waiting. The Varda are tied to the world as well. They accepted that fate when they chose to come down from the Heavens, to give up their celestial nature and become a physical part of reality. All other living things are of Arda, therefore they are Arda. The only thing that isn't is man, so both the Varda and the elves resent man for having this gift -- of joining Eru at the end when they cannot.
@@Ishkur23 That's true, but Men have no idea about this gift. And, even if they did, I think many of them would have preferred the gifts bestowed on the Elves, such as immortal life, stronger bodies and etc.
The Dwarven King: supplies the army, shows up with a host, surrounds the father of all dragons, gets crushed, stabs the creature in the belly, makes it run away, dies, refuses to elaborate
This battle is one of the bloodiest in LOTR universe. Lot of people died. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️. Brilliant documentary series. Love from Sri Lanka ❤️🔥.
Nice work! I took a more emotional perspective when we tried to create a metal song about the Dwarves of Belegost in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad recently. That episode is one of the very highlights of the entire legendarium, for me.
This is one of many reasons why i absolutely adore silmarillion book and read it over and over again. Elves, dwarves and humans are so bad ass in it. And silmarillion shows how flawed the elves are and that is why i like them. They are not so different from humans at the end of the day. (Of course i do understand that all art is a reflection and study of ourselves&humanity and that is cool also)
Hi. As shown in the video, beleg and mablung went to maedhroses host. They infact went to fingons, as thingol did not permit them to fight under a son of feanor
Great video but you had a mistake in the visuals. You had Beleg and Mablung's icons in the East with the sons of Feanor. They were only given leave by Thingol to join the union under the condition that they were only to take up arms alongside the house of Fingolfin. So they should have been shown with Fingon in the Western host.
I have been waiting SOOOO long for this one. Toss up between this n fall of Gondolin. If he does that battle video could be like an hour long. There's like half a book about the fight alone....Lost tales 2? I believe. It's right up there with Wheel of Time 'The last battle' in terms of epic-ness and detail. Sanderson is probably unparalleled in writing set piece warfare
Maybe one of my favorite things about the Nirnaeth Arnoediad is the build up in the Children of Húrin. The moments in Dor-Lomin where he rode of in hope, the beginnings of the battle where the armies of Fingon qnd Maedhros marched towards Thangorodrin when they realized Turgon opened the gates of Gondolin to come to their aid. It also has one hell of a quote: _Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar_ _Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day_ _has come! Behold, people of the Eldar_ _and Fathers of Men, the day_ _has come!' And all those who heard_ _his great voice echo in the hills_ _answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The_ _night is passing!'_ which is paid of later perfectly with Hurin's cries of _'Aurë entuluva' Day shall come again_ Every time I read this part I hope the Elves could win and I am always heartbroken when I read further (Edit: Formatting)
With possible contested exception of Arceus from Pokémon, are there ANY deities in fiction that are not in some way hampering the very survival of the beings they sired and created?
@@ducovanderwoude6971 Eru has moral beliefs too. Manwe consults him directly at times. He seems to be a bit dickish at times as well - referencing every time someone non-elven or non-maia/vala wants to go across the sea to the lands of the valar. Specifically the destruction of Numenor.
It's even worse if you read the Fall of Numenor. A collection of half finished notes, drafts, and ideas from various letters edited into something resembling a novel covering roughly the same time period has more developed and realistic characters along with a much better story than that $500 million tv series.
Although it is only featured in the sponsorship part of this video, it would be greatly appreciated by myself and I'm sure others, if you could ommit using imagery from Amazon's Rings of Power series, as it misrepresents (intentionally, I might add) specific descriptions by Tolkien himself and goes agains the otherwise amazing visual presentation of these videos. Otherwise, these are always a treat to watch and the inclusion of direct quotes and wider context of battles make them feel that much more impactful (like Hurin's curse).
“Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them.”
You forgot to mention the brief conversation where Hurin (in his plea for Turgon to retreat to Gondolin) said : "From your house the hope of Elves and Men will come and 'from me and you a new star shall arise.'
0:55 Correction: Elves do not need magic for their immortality. It's entirely intrinsic to their being. The show's retcon of the Elves is not canon. Edit: The health of Elves are indeed tied to some degree to the magic of the world. That is most likely why they eventually left Middle-earth in the Fourth Age for the blessed realm of Valinor where the magical power of the divine still remain. Mithril has nothing to do with this, however. That is an error in the show.
Then When Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon, The shadow passed and his heart was uplifted And he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatarni, utúlie'n aurë ! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë ! The night is passing !' The Children of Húrin, The Battle of Unnumbered Tears
I think that trolls are a little too big in here. I remember reading an article that in the first age, orcs and trolls were far weaker than in the third age, since power of good was stronger and influence of evil lesser, and it was Sauron and Saruman that improved Melkor's original design of orcs, making them bigger, stronger and resistent to sun, what made dragons and balrogs so crucial, as his armies of orcs couldnt win against the elves and men on their own. I think trolls should be somewhere between elf and balrog in terms of size here, but thats just a minor notice from my side.
Great video, although I think you failed to mention that is was not Glaurung nor the Balrogs that brought the victory of Morgoth, but the treachery of men
I can't stand all the people who do mental gymnastics to spin it as just a prophecy. He explicitly states that the wrath of the Valar is on them and that they'll never be able to achieve anything lasting
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oof. i don't know man. Sounds a bit hum... scammy...
vitamins rarely preserves themselves well in powder form (and the ones who can you can have for cheap pills anyway)
Although I still want you to do more Sci-Fi video's. Maybe at some point you can do a video series on Willow. Since Disney+ has a series on him and his world right now.
Now. Do Shoukouku no Altair Lore ❤️❤️👏👏👏 It's story is similar to Byzantine and the Ottomans.
Or Arslan Senki, Crusaders and Persians :'(
In the aftermath of the battle the dead Elves and Edain were piled into a mound that would be called Haudh-en-Nirnaeth (Hill of Tears)/Haudh-en-Ndengin (Hill of the Slain). Afterwards it became covered in grass becoming a green mound in a burned and ruined land of Anfauglith.
Among the dead was Húrin's brother Huor, he had only been married for two months before the battle to Rían a kinswoman of Beren. Months later, Rían after giving birth to Tuor leaving him in the care of the Elves, came to the mound and died of grief when she heard no word of his fate.
"Aurë Entuluva! Day shall come again!"
Seriously, did anyone get it worse than Húrin in the entire history of fantasy?
His son Túrin maybe? Though Húrin would watch it all happen unable to do anything.
Yes it is the most cursed family in fantasy!!
Turin: hold my sister!
In some of the older notes of Tolkien it said that the person from which Melkor will meet his final end would be none other than Túrin
Hurin's family fate was cruel, but what would you say about souls tortured for eternity like for example in warp space in W40k.
The field was lost.
Hope had passed away,
The sun went down
Beyond the sea.
Dark was the hour,
But day shall come again.
(...)
No song, no tale,
Which contains all the grief.
Renowned the deeds
And the Victims of defeat.
-Blind Guardian, 'A Dark Passage'
Nightfall in Middle-Earth...One of their best albums and a great way to learn the story of The Silmarillion without reading the book.
And also...
Thus ends the fifth battle
By the treachery of men the field is lost
The night falls and great is the triumph of evil
The league is broken
The last vestige of hope lives in the hidden king
Only he troubles the dark one's mind
Only he could bring ruin to the black foe
Though the land lies down in agony and the curse lives on
A new star shall arise
And a new day shall come, again
"With my eyes you'll see. And with my ears you'll hear. You troubled my day. And you've questioned my strength (But) don't mess. With the master of fate!"
Yeah also one of my favorite metal albums but it had some missed opportunities imo.
They failed to mention that Fingolfin actually managed to hurt Morgoth several times with a wound that never healed.
They could have made a very epic song about the host of Valinor including the Vanyar and the Noldor of Finarfin finally marching upon Angband, about Finarfin fighting with Sauron "wuth Songs of Power" wich would just be perfect to be adapted in Song (although Clamavi de Profundis') version is although awesome and maybe most importantly about Eärendil and his yourney. I actually cannot understand why they didn't really mention him at all but made a whole song about Maeglin.
You should have mentioned Húrin’s defiant battle cry while covering Turgon’s retreat.
"Aurë entuluva!" ("Day will come again!")
I can smell the simp and Neutrogena from here lol soo the sun. When have we last seen it lol
HOERIN
Aure entuluyva !
@@Akren905 - Ah yes, mentioning a part of a book you like means you never see the sun... And also that you suffer from acne. Okay. Hey, why am I hearing banjo music, Gordon?
Then When Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatarni, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The night is passing!'
I like the fact that Cirdan of the Falas, Mablung and Beleg Strongbow of the Sindar Elves marched to war with their Noldor brethen.
cirdan wasnt in the battle as far as i remember, correct me if im wrong
@@Premoguys "For there all the Noldor of Hithlum were assembled, together with Elves of the Falas and Gwindor's company from Nargothrond . . ." The Silmarillion, Of The Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad
@@Premoguys and The Grey Annals (HME XI) as well.
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But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlooked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: ‘*Utúlie’n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie’n aurë!* The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!’ And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: ‘*Auta i lómë!* The night is passing!’
Thank you Mr. Tolkien, we will always miss you.
I've read the Silmarillion many times. There are passages which I have come to love greatly. I will still remember this one as one of my first favorites. Tolkien does such a beautiful job of showing the power of brotherhood here, but also the effect of hope being kindled in a dark time.
cannot wait for the Fall of Gondolin! It is one of the most epic battles of middle earth
I've just started reading CJRT's edited version of The Fall of Gondolin although I've already read the version he edited for Book Two of The Book of Lost Tales which was quite astonishing in its epic and tragic breadth.
I hope the coming of Tuor to Gondolin is shown with the Seven Gates of Gondolin. Each Gate was unique in its design and layout from Wood, Stone, Bronze, Iron, Silver, Gold and Steel.
Still dont understand how Morgoth was unable to find Gondolin. He had bats, ravens etc, dont know for sure about winged dragons...still...seems far streached. He is the king in Beleriand at that time.
@@deathstroke2697 I think eagles patrolled the encircling hills and mountains preventing any aerial encroachment but even then, Morgoth should've been able to work out Gondolin's location by a process of deduction so yes, it's arguable that Tolkien maybe stretched that particular plot device a little too far.
@@keyboarddancers7751 the only explanation I can think of is well *magic* as yes a process of deduction would work especially considering how close it was.
Seems like in the first age of Middle Earth at least, the more pissed off an elf is, the closer they get towards the gates of Angband and Morgoth. :D That being said, rage is always tempered by destruction as seen time and time again in Tolkien's lore. Good to keep a level head it seems! Great video W&W, looking forward to the fall of Gondolin!
While Húrin was short and stout, his brother Huor was the tallest of all the Edain until his son Tuor.
It might be prudent to point out that it was the betrayal of the traitor Easterlings that prevented the eastern host from reaching their target in time.
This enabled the western host to be taunted and lured.
-"Last of all the eastern force to stand firm were the Dwarves of Belegost, and thus they won renown...."
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-"Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them."
It should noted that Húrin and his brother Huor were the first Men to arrive in Gondolin, after being rescued by Thorondor's eagles.
They were allowed to leave under an oath of silence by King Turgon, even though the law of the city forbade the leaving of outsiders once they entered.
Been waiting for this for years, anybody that knows me has seen me ask for this battle many many times, thank you guys so much for giving me this beautiful glorious day 👍
These first age/Silmarillion vids are pretty fantastic!
Awesome video. And I am excited for the next episode. The children of hurin is one of my favorites books. It is a very complete story that really feels like saga and a tragedy mixed together so well.
This was an amazing episode. I always love the amount of info you give. Helps not just me, but others as well of having a better understanding of this lore. Thanks so much. Hope you have a great day.
Yes! My favorite part of Tolkien lore and one of my favorite TH-cam channels coming together. Been waiting a long time for this.
Watching here from Brazil, reading "The Silmarillion" for the second time. Congratulations on the video, extremely well-explained! What a production, ladies and gentlemen. One of the best pieces of content I've had the pleasure of seeing about this incredible Tolkien world.
All i ask is to one day be able to see the Nirnaeth Arnoediad along with many other events of the first age on the big screen
Elves don't use magic to stay immortal, that's just their nature.
Only in Valinor, in the 2nd age they started to diminish, the 3 elven rings slowed that down, once the one ring was destroyed and ages past, the elves that stayed eventually passed away
@@sir2069 Diminish in nobility and power, yes. Lose immortality in any sense - absolutely not. None of them "passed away" from old age. Adult Elves do not age, period.
@@sir2069 I sense your thought may have been corrupted by The Abomination! ("Rings of Power")
@dIRECT0R I didn't watch that show, and yes after the 4th age when all the elves left, the rest that stayed by the 5th or 6th age of middle Earth did vanish
@@sir2069 Maybe, maybe not. However they did, they ceertainly didn't expire from old age or disease. They will live for as long as the world does. That is explicit in the lore.
Overall amazing video, but I can't believe you left out the Aurë entuluva bit! It's the best thing in the whole Silmarillion! The funeral procession of the dwarves was awesome though.
wow i had no idea early part of middle earth was so BLOODY. and please continue this series
Loving this series. Will you continue into the second age? I would also love to see you cover the Chronicles of Narnia or the Clone Wars.
Massive video lads, loving it!
Two minor corrections: yall mentionedd, when it comes to the caption of Hurin, that it was Melkors Trollguard but it was Gothmogs Trollguard if im not mistaken :)
And yall said correctly that Beleg and Mablung went with Fingon, but the animation showed them joining Maedhros forces :)
No big deal at all, video is 12/10 haha
Great Video, one minor mistake though. In the Silmarillion, it is specifically mentioned, that Thingol forbid Mablung and Beleg to fight with the sons of Feanor, so they were part of the western hosts under Fingon. You placed them on the eastern side under Maedhros, wich contraticts Tolkiens writing.
I knew I misread that. Thanks!
Yeah, it bugged me the entire video as Mablung is my favorite elf
Fantastic account of the battle, so much easier to visualize the actual flanking maneuvers tactics overall. Tolkien never did have enough maps. I love this series a great deal, and very much look forward to each new one as they come. The quotes are great, would love to see more thrown in, thanks so much guys.
thank you for making this video. I always have such a mess with the silmarillion saga but with this documentary I can grip at least a little. please keep on doing these
The dwarves of Belegost literally became a cause of fear to the personification of fear itself , Glaurong . Azaghal raised his warriors well .
Only if Morgoth were a little brave he would be soloing the whole flanking army by himself only if someone told him he was immortal .
Actually Morgoth's his power diminished as he created new lies and creatures of evil
@@force1535 His personal power dimished, the power of his forces didn't.
He was immortal, but he lost the ability to change bodies at will, so if the body where he incarnated into died, it would be quite a setback for him.
The entire passage of this battle has legitimately helped me avoid a depressive spiral.
"Aure entulvar! Day shall come again!"
Another compelling great video on the war of the jewels and one its most bloody and destructive battles. Problem was that the elves for all their strength and might could never win against Morgoth with the doom of manwae upon them. As to defeat the devil in god form, they needed the power and might of his fellow gods to defeat him, which they would only gain once they had absolved themselves of their former sins.
For all they imply to care about the people of Middle-Earth, the Doom of Mandos and the actions of other Valar seems to only hamper any attempt to stop the Great Enemy. They surely seem as imperfect Greek gods.
The logic seems to be that the Valar could easily overpower Morgoth again, and someday will; he won't win forever. But in the meantime they cannot let the Elves be the victors for fear they'll go on to become even worse in their arrogance; given that the entire thing started with mass slaughter just to get their way.
First bit is not true second bit is correct . hindsight 20/20 you also have to remember. Our understanding is by the account of the elves . We have only partial picture and partial picture of that..
Let's not forget that Turgon sent several times an envoy to Valinor in order ask the Valar for aid, and the Valar denied every turn. And yet, after all these attempts, Ulmo somehow expected them to listen to his warnings later on. This is like the opposite of the "The boy who cried wolf" fable.
They are imperfect, yes, but they don’t screw with the lives like the pagan gods. Fëanor committed unspeakable crimes and made a terrible oath with his sons. In marching out to Middle Earth, Fëanor basically said that they don’t need the Valar. Ulmo tried his best to help the exiles, but pride and the Doom of Mandos worked against his efforts.
I don’t think the Valar are very comparable to the Greek pantheon, the mistakes of the Greek gods were caused selfishly pursing their all too human desires, whereas the potential mistakes by the Valar come from sincere desire but imperfect understanding in following Eru’s will for his Children, especially in balancing their charge to care for the children while respecting the free will of the Children, and the consequences that came with it
What always bothered in the aftermath of this battle is how both the Elves and the Valar unfairly treated the Easterlings and other tribes of Men from Middle-Earth. Yes, Ulfang's people betrayed the League of Maedhros, but Bór's people remained loyal and fought till the end. However, the Elves ceased all relationships with Men, aside from the Houses of Beor, Haladin and Hador, and the Valar forsook all Men from Middle-Earth. Because one clan betrayed them, the rest of the race of Men had to suffer.
Is it any surprising that several clans of Men resented the Númenóreans and ended up joining Sauron during the Second and Third Ages?
The Valar abandoned Men from the start, left them to their own devices to stand against Morgoth on their own. Primitive Men trying to stand against Morgoth, which not even the Noldor could do in the peak of their might, it isnt surprising that so many were corrupted. Not only that, Eru himself punished Men for not being to withstand it. All in all, Men had the deck stacked against them, and it is surprising that so many living under the dark for generations still chose good.
@@MrRenanHappy That's true! The Valar pretty much favored the Elves from the start.
Let's compare:
The Valar went to war after knowing that Melkor captured and corrupted some Elves vs the Valar did nothing to prevent Morgoth from corrupting so many Men
The Valar guided the Elves to Valinor in order to nurture them vs the Valar forbade Men from ever going to Valinor, including the Numenoreans, under the implicit threat of extinction
The Valar kept aiding the Elves even after the Three Kinslayings vs the Valar never aided Men in general
The Valar were willing to forgive the Sons of Feanor (aka the guys that commited three kinslayings and that stole two Silmarills) vs the Valar abandoned the Men from Middle-Earth because some of them bought into Morgoth's lies and joined the latter
@@lisboah the men are not to inherit middle earth, their journey is in the afterlife.
@@lisboah Ah, but the men have the Gift of Iluvatar: Death.
How is that a gift? Well, of all the races, men are the only ones who actually leave the world of Arda when they die. Where they go no one knows (not even Mandos), but the key thing is that they go somewhere special to be with Eru Iluvatar (Tolkien alludes this to be a secular form of Heaven).
Elves, meanwhile, are stuck on Arda forever. They cannot get out and they won't ever be with Eru Iluvatar, which from a certain perspective is a fate worse than death. They have nowhere better to look forward to, when they die they go to the Halls of Waiting and wait until the end of the world which may take so long it might feel like meaningless eternity.
The dwarves? They were made by Aule the Smith and so are part of the physical land. The elves believe that when the dwarves die they return to the stone from whence they came , but they are stuck on Arda like everyone else even though they don't go to the Halls of Waiting.
The Varda are tied to the world as well. They accepted that fate when they chose to come down from the Heavens, to give up their celestial nature and become a physical part of reality.
All other living things are of Arda, therefore they are Arda. The only thing that isn't is man, so both the Varda and the elves resent man for having this gift -- of joining Eru at the end when they cannot.
@@Ishkur23 That's true, but Men have no idea about this gift. And, even if they did, I think many of them would have preferred the gifts bestowed on the Elves, such as immortal life, stronger bodies and etc.
I definitely would have included hurins war cry "day shall come again!" Which he cried each of the 70 times he struck down a foe
I'd love to see a video like this about the battle at Istvan V from Warhammer 40k history
Children of Hurin Next. Please !!!!
The Dwarven King: supplies the army, shows up with a host, surrounds the father of all dragons, gets crushed, stabs the creature in the belly, makes it run away, dies, refuses to elaborate
This battle is one of the bloodiest in LOTR universe. Lot of people died. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️. Brilliant documentary series. Love from Sri Lanka ❤️🔥.
Nice work! I took a more emotional perspective when we tried to create a metal song about the Dwarves of Belegost in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad recently. That episode is one of the very highlights of the entire legendarium, for me.
This is one of many reasons why i absolutely adore silmarillion book and read it over and over again. Elves, dwarves and humans are so bad ass in it. And silmarillion shows how flawed the elves are and that is why i like them. They are not so different from humans at the end of the day. (Of course i do understand that all art is a reflection and study of ourselves&humanity and that is cool also)
Hi. As shown in the video, beleg and mablung went to maedhroses host. They infact went to fingons, as thingol did not permit them to fight under a son of feanor
Wonderful video! Thank you for making it!
Quality content as always!
Great video but you had a mistake in the visuals.
You had Beleg and Mablung's icons in the East with the sons of Feanor.
They were only given leave by Thingol to join the union under the condition that they were only to take up arms alongside the house of Fingolfin. So they should have been shown with Fingon in the Western host.
I have been waiting SOOOO long for this one. Toss up between this n fall of Gondolin. If he does that battle video could be like an hour long. There's like half a book about the fight alone....Lost tales 2? I believe.
It's right up there with Wheel of Time 'The last battle' in terms of epic-ness and detail. Sanderson is probably unparalleled in writing set piece warfare
Maybe one of my favorite things about the Nirnaeth Arnoediad is the build up in the Children of Húrin.
The moments in Dor-Lomin where he rode of in hope, the beginnings of the battle where the armies of Fingon qnd Maedhros marched towards Thangorodrin when they realized Turgon opened the gates of Gondolin to come to their aid. It also has one hell of a quote: _Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar_ _Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day_ _has come! Behold, people of the Eldar_ _and Fathers of Men, the day_ _has come!' And all those who heard_ _his great voice echo in the hills_ _answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The_ _night is passing!'_ which is paid of later perfectly with Hurin's cries of _'Aurë entuluva' Day shall come again_
Every time I read this part I hope the Elves could win and I am always heartbroken when I read further
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With possible contested exception of Arceus from Pokémon, are there ANY deities in fiction that are not in some way hampering the very survival of the beings they sired and created?
There are, but the a-hole ratio is incredibly high.
Eru Iluvatar doesn't work against the elves. The Valar are more like elder brothers than creators.
@@ducovanderwoude6971 Eru has moral beliefs too. Manwe consults him directly at times. He seems to be a bit dickish at times as well - referencing every time someone non-elven or non-maia/vala wants to go across the sea to the lands of the valar. Specifically the destruction of Numenor.
I thought Game Theory had a video why Arceus wiped out species of Pokemon?
@@theawesomeman9821 - And..? What about it?
Fantastic video. Really getting into the meat and potatoes of the Silmarillion now.
its amazing how amazon blew their chance to make something AWSOME
It's even worse if you read the Fall of Numenor. A collection of half finished notes, drafts, and ideas from various letters edited into something resembling a novel covering roughly the same time period has more developed and realistic characters along with a much better story than that $500 million tv series.
Amazing work well done
Amazing video, can't wait until the next one this series!
Excellent video, a great installment of the series.⚔
Great lore and i love the accompanied animations. 👌🏾
Nice work dude thanks
i ak for this long ago...thnks!!!! u guys are the best!!!
Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë!
Auta i lóme!
Although it is only featured in the sponsorship part of this video, it would be greatly appreciated by myself and I'm sure others, if you could ommit using imagery from Amazon's Rings of Power series, as it misrepresents (intentionally, I might add) specific descriptions by Tolkien himself and goes agains the otherwise amazing visual presentation of these videos. Otherwise, these are always a treat to watch and the inclusion of direct quotes and wider context of battles make them feel that much more impactful (like Hurin's curse).
I think these would make excellent films providing the people who would work on them .Had the love and passion like Peter Jackson and J. R. R. Tolkien
Would love to see a movie series of the first age! Oh god make me live till this day!
“Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them.”
The silmarillion is the best ones u have done bro
Another amazing video !!
You forgot to mention the brief conversation where Hurin (in his plea for Turgon to retreat to Gondolin) said : "From your house the hope of Elves and Men will come and 'from me and you a new star shall arise.'
Fantastic video!
Giga-Chad Hurin displaying the strength of Man's nobility before Satan himself.
0:55 Correction: Elves do not need magic for their immortality. It's entirely intrinsic to their being. The show's retcon of the Elves is not canon.
Edit: The health of Elves are indeed tied to some degree to the magic of the world. That is most likely why they eventually left Middle-earth in the Fourth Age for the blessed realm of Valinor where the magical power of the divine still remain.
Mithril has nothing to do with this, however. That is an error in the show.
this era was depressing af
But so beautiful as well
Good work!
Nicely done!
That damn Doom of Mandos. Homie kept that grudge for so many milenia
Many years later Hurin was betrayed by Turgon and would cry "Remember the Fens of Serech"
Very brave to show a pic from that abomination so early in the video.
0:55 please dont use any images from this freak show.
I second this.
Overhated not as bad as the hobbit trilogy
I'm hoping that next episode of Mongol Alt history is good
' Hail, worm of Morgoth well met, ere the end, thus is Turin son of Hurin avenged.'
Can I suggest a future video on the battle for Vervunhive from the book Necropolis of the Gaunt’s Ghost book series of Warhammer 40k?
I love Your videos
Then When Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon, The shadow passed and his heart was uplifted
And he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatarni, utúlie'n aurë ! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!'
And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë ! The night is passing !'
The Children of Húrin, The Battle of Unnumbered Tears
Yea I hear you but what about Galadriel saving everyone?
The night is passing!!!!
Day shall come again!!!
Well done 👍
I may have to at least try AG1 since I do have digestion issues.
I feel like this battle is an expy of the battle of the Somme
I always felt that they they could have won if the easterlings didnt betray them. The silmarillion even says so.
It's truely the best and most sorrowful battle of middle earth
A comment for a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee
History of Morgoth is just fun too me me too listen about.
Dwarves and Dragons are one of the greatest feuds of Middle-earth.
Doing great. Love to see some Warcraft, Halo, Sword of Truth, Mass Effect or StarCraft.
I’m disappointed you didn’t quote Hurin’s battle cry: AURE ENTULUVA! DAY SHALL COME AGAIN
I think that trolls are a little too big in here. I remember reading an article that in the first age, orcs and trolls were far weaker than in the third age, since power of good was stronger and influence of evil lesser, and it was Sauron and Saruman that improved Melkor's original design of orcs, making them bigger, stronger and resistent to sun, what made dragons and balrogs so crucial, as his armies of orcs couldnt win against the elves and men on their own.
I think trolls should be somewhere between elf and balrog in terms of size here, but thats just a minor notice from my side.
Great video, although I think you failed to mention that is was not Glaurung nor the Balrogs that brought the victory of Morgoth, but the treachery of men
My heart
Anyone else think Mandos is a prick for cursing them? Literally helping Morgoth 🤷
I can't stand all the people who do mental gymnastics to spin it as just a prophecy. He explicitly states that the wrath of the Valar is on them and that they'll never be able to achieve anything lasting
sooo gooood
So I know how this story goes but I feel like saddest battle I heard in J. R. R Tolkien wrote
Still waiting for the Wheel of Time series
What background music is playing at 2:24? It sounds so familiar