@@absolutesillyness Well still a Gen 8 Evolution but it couldn't hold Eviolite before Gen 9 as PLA has no held items. I̶ ̶g̶u̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶h̶o̶l̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶l̶e̶s̶s̶.̶
@@absolutesillyness funnily, you're right in both messages Wyrdeer IS a gen 8 evolution, since it came out in a gen 8 game but also couldn't hold an eviolite since Pokémon can't hold items in PLA
Hey Wolfe, since you mentioned wrist pain, I felt compelled to share some tips with you. I've been a software engineer for over 15 years, so if I didn't do these things myself, my wrists would have been obliterated years ago. 1. Always make sure your computer chair has nice long arm rests that can be completely flush and level with your desk surface. Basically you don't want your arms angled up or down, just flat. 2. Look into those ergo bean-bag wrist rests for your mouse hand. They seem like they wouldn't do much, but are actually pretty comfy in my experience. 3. If you are ever typing on a laptop sitting on a couch or something that isn't a proper desk area, same deal, make sure you never have your arms angled weirdly and make sure your wrists are in a good neutral position. Use some pillows or blankets as arm rests if need be. 4. Look up some wrist exercises/stretches. Something to do if you are feeling some strain or pain.
That mirror herb Gyarados is great counter to Defiant types. Catch an annihilape off guard by giving it a defiant boost but getting a +2 boost of its own. Then a Tera Flying Tera Blast, that ape wont escape
Intimidate Mirror Herb Gyarados would proc Defiant and give a +2 boost which is really funny. I usually run it on my Fire-Tauros and it's scarily effective against stuff like Kingambit/Annihilape along with Trailblaze.
I think VGC would benefit from a little bit of standardization across regions. Now i'm not saying every tournament should be 100% identical but maybe something like: Open Team Sheet (Tera Type Included) and Top 8 being Best of 3 as being default rules. That way you can still decide whether you want your tournament in the beginning to be Swiss, Bo1, Bo2, Open Bracket, Single Elim, Double Elim etc. So you can still have a fairly volatile tournament if you want, but in top 8 your team needs to prove a little more consistency than before and with Open Team Sheet (Tera Type Included) you reduce the surprise factor a little bit throughout the entire tournament but not entirely. And these standardized rules would only be required for let's say Regionals or similar events. So smaller tournaments, weeklies etc can still do whatever they want. This is just for the BIG VGC Official tournaments that are connected to Worlds Qualification.
I literally just put Bonus Wolfe on in the background to listen to him talk lol. Such a confidence and passion for the game, it’s incredible to listen to
This is fantastic. The nerdiest thing I could have possibly been randomly recommended, but I recommend it. My Pokemon knowledge is Red Blue Green Yellow and through about the third movie. Sorry I am a 40+ yr old gamer. Pokemon was just too young for me. I bought my 8 yr old brother a gameboy color, Red and Blue for christmas when that all came out.
I think things like +def Dondozo are because of the closed-sheet format forcing players into more hard-switch situations when they get into battle, having to improvise more and taking full advantage of stat ranges
I assumed that Gunk Shot Annihilape was tera Poison and Wood Hammer Mimikyu was Tera Grass to expand their offensive profile while both see some benefit defensively from the tera types :) Gunk Shot heavily accelerates its damage output into fighting resists/checks, unboosted Rage Fist is fine into opposing Ghosts, but Gunk covers Fairies, Flyings, Psychics.
@@joejonesYou are not smart enough to see mistakes XD. Boy predicting vs you must be too easy. Like reading an open book that screams their next move.
I have been swept by a gyrados like the one at 9:50 because they switched it in on me when I tried to do the good old bruxish coalossal strat 😅 didn't end well for me missing the eq and boosting the gyrados like no tomorrow 😂
If you turn Columns Mode "on" in the pokepaste, the whole thing will show up in 1 screen and it's easier for the viewer to see, also you won't have to scroll up/down as much. Nice vid tho.
I actually used that stantler set for reg B! It was a surprisingly good Pokemon for my gravity/trick room centric team! It's cool to see people other than me had the same idea
I would hate to fight in a best of 1 format for ANY tournament let alone Pokemon. I didn't see Bundle as much as it used to be but at the Charlotte Regionals turn 1 of one of my matches I froze my opponent with Freeze Dry. The game was over at that point because of how broken Freeze is. That would feel so bad to have this well thought out team and you just lose because you got froze, you missed multiple times in a row or you crit multiple times in a row and you don't have another game to redeem yourself.
I have no clue why best of 1 is so popular in Japan. In Yu-Gi-Oh, their YCS events (premier competitive events with thousands of players) are also best of 1, and it skews what the top finishing decks are significantly.
I wanna say it's the laws about competitive gaming basically being gambling, which de-legitimizes competition in a lot of ways, they probably want it to be quicker as well. it's sort of similar in Smash Bros, where they just recently swapped to bo5s from bo3 (iirc) despite every other tournament worldwide doing bo5s for top 8 at the very least because they're literally not allowed to give prizes that aren't like, a controller or something
Tournaments run more smoothly but the player experience and even viewer experience is worse. There's no room for adaptation. That's a severe drawback that should never happen in tournaments, imo.
@@jazzercise300 there aren't a lot of sanctioned tournaments in Japan, so most of what you see via roadoftheking or whatever is unsanctioned tournaments with a normal best-of-three Swiss round format. Smaller sanctioned events, such as the store tournaments that lead to qualifying for nationals are also are typically played as best of 3. But the YCSJ events are all best-of-one with a smaller Swiss round portion than would be normal for an event of their size (most recent was 8 rounds for 4000 players), followed by single elimination best-of-one top 64 cut. Pretty much you can drop at most 1 game in Swiss if you want to make top cut (not even guaranteed top at x-1) and then you have to win out from there.
I still find it funny in one YCS Threatening Roar won the tournament I am pretty sure (it's a card that stops your opponent from entering the phase where you can deal damage and win but for only one turn). It's allows too many gimmicks to win.
That Gale Wing Accrobatics, it makes me think back to the old, Unburden Accrobatics, sets with the Flying Gem. Wonder how it would have done with Gale Wings instead back then.
Loving the more frequent BonusWolfe videos. I know the high production quality and broader appeal of the content on the main channel is important for channel growth, but the OG "Real Youtubist" content which is now on BonusWolfe is by far my favourite type of content. Please feel free to just whack on a screen share and keep 'em coming!
That last team definitely looks like it takes a slow and steady approach. Grimmsnarl’s screen support plus Maushold’s Friend Guard boosts defense. Ting-Lu chips things down. You can either use the classic Beat Up + Rage Fist strategy with Annihilape or set up Iron Hands by itself. And in the event that they aren’t able to knock out opponents, everything’s so weakened that Talonflame has priority Acrobatics to take out whatever’s left. I don’t know how well that would work within an open team sheet format since your opponent would have more agency to predict what each mon was going to do.
Idk I think the more shocking format seems more interesting to watch as a viewer. Much more interesting then the same two teams being constantly spammed
I think with this generation’s gimmicks make it so that it is not as unified as before, I agree in some of the previous generations its freaking boring to see Mega Kang every single game. But this generation we see so many surprising new tacts with open team sheet. from a player perspective I would not want a world’s qualifier to be determined by game of 1 being shocked by an unusual Gunk Shot Annihilape, and Wood Hammer Mimiku towards for example Max Attack Water Tera Arcanine for opposing Gholdengoes.
Wanted to know if you might be able to have your team get their hands on some of the match footage as well. In terms of just learning about some of the interactions and choices, I think it would be really helpful because watching the games play out would really help to get into the headspace of the players who came up with these really unique teams.
I wish they could hide their Terratype UNTIL its used. Once they use their terra during the tourney its shown for everyone to know. But could be fun if someone is able to save a terra or 2 till the final match
The reason for goggles on ape instead of maushold is in case maushold goes down before the opposing Amoongus does. In a CTS format I imagine every high level player has a plan for the turn 1 mausape lead. So maushold probably often didn’t make it past turn 1. My best series 2 team uses goggles ape + screens taunt Grimmsnarl. It beat everything in the format except talonflame, mausape, and indeedee armarogue. So I added t-tar and flutter mane. It did amazingly well
It’s good to have team variety and better then using the same 20 Pokémon props to Japan for branching out even with their format NA/EU can learn from this
I don't want to put words into Wolfe's mouth but whenever he says " This is interesting", that just immediately translates to " This is sort of dumb" to me a lot of the times.
Great video. HOWEVER, my enjoyment of it was compromised with that lackluster intro. I shan’t accept such mistakes any longer. Ps I would like to here what you think about hisui arcanine.
I like the surprise meta. Imagine getting into a battle with another trainer and revealing everything about your team beforehand. 🤷🏼♂️ Although there should be an adjustment factor/multiple rounds (Bo3?) to make changes for the losing side if there's a surprise element (winning side stays the same). The creativity makes it way more interesting.
Totally agree. Best of three would be nice, but open team sheets is negative fun. I get why super competitive types might not want to get outdone by a "gimmick", but I just don't see where there is any enjoyment to be had in totally disallowing surprise factor. The only real argument for it that I can find some merit in, is that it helps if your opponent is trying to cheat and swap around their Pokemon given there is no Battle Box this gen. But if they ever bother adding one in during DLC or even if we have to wait until next gen for it, I really hope they go back to closed team sheet
@@Pikaton659 Yeah. I feel like it adds a layer of creativity. Add the adjustment opportunity in-between rounds, and it still allows for strategy and another chance. Most sports teams don't go into halftime with the same exact strategy/players during the 2nd half. Why should this? They also don't go in knowing their opponent's exact details either. Maybe the general gist of them, but not the details.
I understand all the bad things about single elimination, close team sheet format but the one good thing about it is the greater creativity amongst players. You may label it as rewarding "gimmicky" teams but it really allows for a greater appreciation of the allowed pokemon in the format rather than the same boring stuff that inevitably comes to every vgc format every single generation: genies and other legendary spam. I would love if they just completely banned legendaries in all the vgc formats until the last one at the end of the generation because even when the home update came and it allowed the new Pokemon from hisui and other generations they're just overshadowed by the OP ones like the genies and urshifu. Mega lame.
Kinda jank opinion but having either bo1, or closed team sheet is pretty interesting, and invites some creativity, both at the same time is pretty cursed though.
Wolfe "I want every team to be the same so Japan's format sucks because it relies on gimmicks and not boring standard teams" Glick No but in all seriousness I personally prefer that over "oh look, another same 6 pokemon"
It's honestly the best on 1 part that's the main issue. No chance to learn and adapt, it lets teams that are terrible (but might work if you're lucky) to thrive. Doesn't let any skill or strategy thrive. Best of 3 rewards your creativity by giving you a big advantage, but stops 1-off gimmicks like All-fissure teams that just rely on luck.
Winner might have won because they surprise counter status with Annihilape safety goggles and prankster misty terrain Enemy brings out amogus and tries to spore iron hands who can just swords dance in the terrain
If anything this shows the Japanese format seems more fun than in the west since it gives the player the ability to run wild sets and give viability to unusual pokemon instead of always using the pokemon that benefit from powercreep the most at any given time and have the top 8 teams be all the same
@@zetagammafigma8212 in what other context would you be able to surprise your opponent with helping hand stantler? Feels more in the spirit of pokemon that constantly sending out the same pokemon because they are the most consistent.
So Japan basically does it like the Anime, and that’s a problem? 😒 They basically depend on reflex reaction, quick thinking, and knowledge on spot instead of rehashed teams
best of one closed team sheets is the single worst ''meta'' ive ever played and I really feel bad for the Japanese players who had to go through it as a qualifier for worlds, its kind of evil.
Oooof. I dislike best of one in general, let alone closed team sheet. And I'm one of the people who still want closed team sheet. Pretty sure everyone prefers best of 3, outside the people paying for the venue. More interesting for the audience who gets to see the combatants learn and adapt. Better for the players because a gimmick won't just rip them apart.
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I'm so glad Eviolite is actually viable with one of the new evolution recipients in Gen 9, and it's STANTLER of all things
Not to be rude or anything, but I think Wyrdeer is considered a Gen 8 evolution
Wait, you’re right, Stantler couldn’t hold eviolite in Gen 8, my bad
@@absolutesillyness Well still a Gen 8 Evolution but it couldn't hold Eviolite before Gen 9 as PLA has no held items. I̶ ̶g̶u̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶h̶o̶l̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶l̶e̶s̶s̶.̶
I thought bisharp was good but I don't recall it having tournament usage
@@absolutesillyness funnily, you're right in both messages
Wyrdeer IS a gen 8 evolution, since it came out in a gen 8 game but also couldn't hold an eviolite since Pokémon can't hold items in PLA
Woah BonusWolfey knows so much about Pokemon, he should do a collab with WolfeyVGC!
Nah!!!!! Wolfey VGC is a fraud!!! Bonus wolfe would 100-0 him if they played 100 games.
They already did
Hey Wolfe, since you mentioned wrist pain, I felt compelled to share some tips with you. I've been a software engineer for over 15 years, so if I didn't do these things myself, my wrists would have been obliterated years ago.
1. Always make sure your computer chair has nice long arm rests that can be completely flush and level with your desk surface. Basically you don't want your arms angled up or down, just flat.
2. Look into those ergo bean-bag wrist rests for your mouse hand. They seem like they wouldn't do much, but are actually pretty comfy in my experience.
3. If you are ever typing on a laptop sitting on a couch or something that isn't a proper desk area, same deal, make sure you never have your arms angled weirdly and make sure your wrists are in a good neutral position. Use some pillows or blankets as arm rests if need be.
4. Look up some wrist exercises/stretches. Something to do if you are feeling some strain or pain.
That mirror herb Gyarados is great counter to Defiant types. Catch an annihilape off guard by giving it a defiant boost but getting a +2 boost of its own. Then a Tera Flying Tera Blast, that ape wont escape
Intimidate Mirror Herb Gyarados would proc Defiant and give a +2 boost which is really funny. I usually run it on my Fire-Tauros and it's scarily effective against stuff like Kingambit/Annihilape along with Trailblaze.
Thats demonic, I love it
you may have outsmarted me, but i have outsmarted your outsmarting
I think VGC would benefit from a little bit of standardization across regions. Now i'm not saying every tournament should be 100% identical but maybe something like: Open Team Sheet (Tera Type Included) and Top 8 being Best of 3 as being default rules. That way you can still decide whether you want your tournament in the beginning to be Swiss, Bo1, Bo2, Open Bracket, Single Elim, Double Elim etc. So you can still have a fairly volatile tournament if you want, but in top 8 your team needs to prove a little more consistency than before and with Open Team Sheet (Tera Type Included) you reduce the surprise factor a little bit throughout the entire tournament but not entirely. And these standardized rules would only be required for let's say Regionals or similar events. So smaller tournaments, weeklies etc can still do whatever they want. This is just for the BIG VGC Official tournaments that are connected to Worlds Qualification.
I honestly don't understand why the rules aren't the same everywhere 🤷
Talonflame winning a major nationals with such an unorthodox set is historic.
Ugh I am actually nostalgic over the Wolfey-gushes video style. Love it
I literally just put Bonus Wolfe on in the background to listen to him talk lol. Such a confidence and passion for the game, it’s incredible to listen to
appreciating the influx of real youtubist videos recently
This is fantastic. The nerdiest thing I could have possibly been randomly recommended, but I recommend it. My Pokemon knowledge is Red Blue Green Yellow and through about the third movie. Sorry I am a 40+ yr old gamer. Pokemon was just too young for me. I bought my 8 yr old brother a gameboy color, Red and Blue for christmas when that all came out.
I think things like +def Dondozo are because of the closed-sheet format forcing players into more hard-switch situations when they get into battle, having to improvise more and taking full advantage of stat ranges
A bonus Wolfe day is a good day
based opinion
I assumed that Gunk Shot Annihilape was tera Poison and Wood Hammer Mimikyu was Tera Grass to expand their offensive profile while both see some benefit defensively from the tera types :) Gunk Shot heavily accelerates its damage output into fighting resists/checks, unboosted Rage Fist is fine into opposing Ghosts, but Gunk covers Fairies, Flyings, Psychics.
why would you send tera poison into psychic? what good psy mon is less than 89 base speed
@@joejonesYou are not smart enough to see mistakes XD. Boy predicting vs you must be too easy. Like reading an open book that screams their next move.
Honestly such a cool video. Although a “surprise” meta might not be ideal, it’s awesome seeing the unique and creative teams that come out of it.
Hearing about this and Korea are makes me appreciate how NA runs their tournaments more.
Considering Stantler did well here, my greatest hope is that Wyrdeer does well in Worlds. It's probably my favorite PLA Pokémon.
teching against specific tera types really sounds like some unplumbed potential over here. wild
The bonus Wolfe throw backs. Glad to see you’re still making this content.
25:55 Gunk shot ape is wild. I can only imagine that it is there to ohko tera fairy flutter
I have been swept by a gyrados like the one at 9:50 because they switched it in on me when I tried to do the good old bruxish coalossal strat 😅 didn't end well for me missing the eq and boosting the gyrados like no tomorrow 😂
I love bonus Wolfe content. Just like the good old days where you just talk till you are done
Hearing the Og intro style always makes my day better
If you turn Columns Mode "on" in the pokepaste, the whole thing will show up in 1 screen and it's easier for the viewer to see, also you won't have to scroll up/down as much. Nice vid tho.
This is like Wolfe's Mogul Mail. Keep it up 👍
This is very interesting.
By the way, congrats for hitting 1 mil on main channel
i lost to hypnosis stantler on ladder💀
I actually used that stantler set for reg B! It was a surprisingly good Pokemon for my gravity/trick room centric team! It's cool to see people other than me had the same idea
I would hate to fight in a best of 1 format for ANY tournament let alone Pokemon. I didn't see Bundle as much as it used to be but at the Charlotte Regionals turn 1 of one of my matches I froze my opponent with Freeze Dry. The game was over at that point because of how broken Freeze is. That would feel so bad to have this well thought out team and you just lose because you got froze, you missed multiple times in a row or you crit multiple times in a row and you don't have another game to redeem yourself.
I love the surprise element of the formats, but you're right, there should be a chance to adjust in-between games on the LOSER'S side in a Best of 3.
Wolfe’s thumbnail game is so good I keep getting bamboozled into thinking this is the main channel when I click 👏👏👏
10:05 could also be to counter Defiant Pokemon
I think this is, honest to god, the worst intro drawing I have ever seen. Its beautiful
Love the Bonus wolfe content! Thanks for your analysis!
Thank you for randomly inspiring me to make an Annihilape
I have no clue why best of 1 is so popular in Japan. In Yu-Gi-Oh, their YCS events (premier competitive events with thousands of players) are also best of 1, and it skews what the top finishing decks are significantly.
I wanna say it's the laws about competitive gaming basically being gambling, which de-legitimizes competition in a lot of ways, they probably want it to be quicker as well.
it's sort of similar in Smash Bros, where they just recently swapped to bo5s from bo3 (iirc) despite every other tournament worldwide doing bo5s for top 8 at the very least because they're literally not allowed to give prizes that aren't like, a controller or something
Tournaments run more smoothly but the player experience and even viewer experience is worse. There's no room for adaptation. That's a severe drawback that should never happen in tournaments, imo.
Wait so the OCG is best of 1? Every time I played yugioh it was best of 3 (I'm American btw)
@@jazzercise300 there aren't a lot of sanctioned tournaments in Japan, so most of what you see via roadoftheking or whatever is unsanctioned tournaments with a normal best-of-three Swiss round format. Smaller sanctioned events, such as the store tournaments that lead to qualifying for nationals are also are typically played as best of 3. But the YCSJ events are all best-of-one with a smaller Swiss round portion than would be normal for an event of their size (most recent was 8 rounds for 4000 players), followed by single elimination best-of-one top 64 cut. Pretty much you can drop at most 1 game in Swiss if you want to make top cut (not even guaranteed top at x-1) and then you have to win out from there.
I still find it funny in one YCS Threatening Roar won the tournament I am pretty sure (it's a card that stops your opponent from entering the phase where you can deal damage and win but for only one turn). It's allows too many gimmicks to win.
The fact the intro is bad makes it so great ! Great video!
That Gale Wing Accrobatics, it makes me think back to the old, Unburden Accrobatics, sets with the Flying Gem.
Wonder how it would have done with Gale Wings instead back then.
Attacking Tera types is how I'm doing good work with speed boost slaking. I loved this because I really want to try my hand at competitive.
i would love one of these after each tournament!!
Loving the more frequent BonusWolfe videos. I know the high production quality and broader appeal of the content on the main channel is important for channel growth, but the OG "Real Youtubist" content which is now on BonusWolfe is by far my favourite type of content. Please feel free to just whack on a screen share and keep 'em coming!
"I usually prefer to use a plus spdef nature on gyarados"
*Meanwhile me, about to bring an impish gyarados to a local this weekend*
That last team definitely looks like it takes a slow and steady approach. Grimmsnarl’s screen support plus Maushold’s Friend Guard boosts defense. Ting-Lu chips things down. You can either use the classic Beat Up + Rage Fist strategy with Annihilape or set up Iron Hands by itself. And in the event that they aren’t able to knock out opponents, everything’s so weakened that Talonflame has priority Acrobatics to take out whatever’s left. I don’t know how well that would work within an open team sheet format since your opponent would have more agency to predict what each mon was going to do.
You would think after the pandemic the pokemon company would have the foresight to include a lobby for bo3 open team sheet in Scarlet Violet
Idk I think the more shocking format seems more interesting to watch as a viewer. Much more interesting then the same two teams being constantly spammed
I think with this generation’s gimmicks make it so that it is not as unified as before, I agree in some of the previous generations its freaking boring to see Mega Kang every single game. But this generation we see so many surprising new tacts with open team sheet.
from a player perspective I would not want a world’s qualifier to be determined by game of 1 being shocked by an unusual Gunk Shot Annihilape, and Wood Hammer Mimiku towards for example Max Attack Water Tera Arcanine for opposing Gholdengoes.
Thank you for pointing out what the natures do, I really appreciate it
So Japan is basically matchup cheese the meta
The most based meta tbh
ey yo, stantler lookin thicc in that thumbnail 🌚
Wanted to know if you might be able to have your team get their hands on some of the match footage as well. In terms of just learning about some of the interactions and choices, I think it would be really helpful because watching the games play out would really help to get into the headspace of the players who came up with these really unique teams.
I wish they could hide their Terratype UNTIL its used. Once they use their terra during the tourney its shown for everyone to know. But could be fun if someone is able to save a terra or 2 till the final match
take a shot every time wolf says “yeah”
I'm glad too have classic Wolfe content 😊
bonuswolfe is my fav channel ty for posting
The reason for goggles on ape instead of maushold is in case maushold goes down before the opposing Amoongus does. In a CTS format I imagine every high level player has a plan for the turn 1 mausape lead. So maushold probably often didn’t make it past turn 1.
My best series 2 team uses goggles ape + screens taunt Grimmsnarl. It beat everything in the format except talonflame, mausape, and indeedee armarogue. So I added t-tar and flutter mane. It did amazingly well
Love some more bonus wolfe!!
Yesterday I evolved my shiny Stantler thinking Weirdeer would be better in competitive. RIP
oh deer 🦌
It’s good to have team variety and better then using the same 20 Pokémon props to Japan for branching out even with their format NA/EU can learn from this
I don't want to put words into Wolfe's mouth but whenever he says " This is interesting", that just immediately translates to " This is sort of dumb" to me a lot of the times.
This came out after I had to use Psyshield Bash 40 times so I could access Wyrdeer in Paldea....
THE INTRO IS BACK!!! LESSGO
I'm so happy for my boy stantler ❤❤❤
Great video. HOWEVER, my enjoyment of it was compromised with that lackluster intro. I shan’t accept such mistakes any longer.
Ps I would like to here what you think about hisui arcanine.
I watched the intro like five times in a row
Gunk shot could be tera grass hands as well, but surprisingly few hands in this top cut compared to NA
I think Japan way is better, it leads to more creative battles rather than having top 8 team using majority of the same mons.
I bet the 2 attack Flutter Mane is tera blast ground, since the only types that resist fairy are weak to ground.
I like the surprise meta. Imagine getting into a battle with another trainer and revealing everything about your team beforehand. 🤷🏼♂️
Although there should be an adjustment factor/multiple rounds (Bo3?) to make changes for the losing side if there's a surprise element (winning side stays the same). The creativity makes it way more interesting.
Totally agree. Best of three would be nice, but open team sheets is negative fun. I get why super competitive types might not want to get outdone by a "gimmick", but I just don't see where there is any enjoyment to be had in totally disallowing surprise factor. The only real argument for it that I can find some merit in, is that it helps if your opponent is trying to cheat and swap around their Pokemon given there is no Battle Box this gen. But if they ever bother adding one in during DLC or even if we have to wait until next gen for it, I really hope they go back to closed team sheet
@@Pikaton659 Yeah. I feel like it adds a layer of creativity. Add the adjustment opportunity in-between rounds, and it still allows for strategy and another chance.
Most sports teams don't go into halftime with the same exact strategy/players during the 2nd half. Why should this? They also don't go in knowing their opponent's exact details either. Maybe the general gist of them, but not the details.
I’ve been playing a stantler team I saw on cybertron and it’s super fun
The mirror herb on Gyara is probably there as a defiant check
Take a shot everytime wolfe says "umm"
I understand all the bad things about single elimination, close team sheet format but the one good thing about it is the greater creativity amongst players. You may label it as rewarding "gimmicky" teams but it really allows for a greater appreciation of the allowed pokemon in the format rather than the same boring stuff that inevitably comes to every vgc format every single generation: genies and other legendary spam. I would love if they just completely banned legendaries in all the vgc formats until the last one at the end of the generation because even when the home update came and it allowed the new Pokemon from hisui and other generations they're just overshadowed by the OP ones like the genies and urshifu. Mega lame.
Kinda jank opinion but having either bo1, or closed team sheet is pretty interesting, and invites some creativity, both at the same time is pretty cursed though.
Wolfey You should make a Reg D tier list
I just lost a shiny full odds stantler in heartgold and seeing that thumbnail pop up hurt
My boy Stantler has come so far. 🥲
nice video
I love grapes very much👍
I honestly miss this form of content
Wolfe "I want every team to be the same so Japan's format sucks because it relies on gimmicks and not boring standard teams" Glick
No but in all seriousness I personally prefer that over "oh look, another same 6 pokemon"
That's just not how it is though, there is lots of variety in the SV formats
It's honestly the best on 1 part that's the main issue. No chance to learn and adapt, it lets teams that are terrible (but might work if you're lucky) to thrive. Doesn't let any skill or strategy thrive. Best of 3 rewards your creativity by giving you a big advantage, but stops 1-off gimmicks like All-fissure teams that just rely on luck.
dont worry, we are still watching
Yassss. MX Vert Gang!
can we get the podcast back. Love Wolf :)
This is much better imo. It stops the game from being nothing but spreadsheets and metas
"It should be surprisingly bulky" Pretty sure not how surprises work
Winner might have won because they surprise counter status with Annihilape safety goggles and prankster misty terrain
Enemy brings out amogus and tries to spore iron hands who can just swords dance in the terrain
i've been a stantler believer since the start trust
these are really interesing sets, curious to what the EVs are
Danny from GameGrumps would be proud.
I love intro
16:29 Any chance this is tera water flutter? Its movepool is good enough that water is one of the few types it would even want tera blast for.
Dude, that haircut is nice
Real Youtubiiiists talk about Stantleeeer
Stantler is a pooookemooon that you forgot.
Would that thumbnail 💯
If anything this shows the Japanese format seems more fun than in the west since it gives the player the ability to run wild sets and give viability to unusual pokemon instead of always using the pokemon that benefit from powercreep the most at any given time and have the top 8 teams be all the same
Best of 1 is never good.
@@zetagammafigma8212 in what other context would you be able to surprise your opponent with helping hand stantler? Feels more in the spirit of pokemon that constantly sending out the same pokemon because they are the most consistent.
I agree maybe more fun but very unhealthy for a competitive scene
You say this but the top 8 teams are never all the same
Dude just get a portable wireless mouse that you have off, and switch it on for intros, you're welcome.
if someone could find a way to interview these players is you and your support team.
i agree
So Japan basically does it like the Anime, and that’s a problem? 😒
They basically depend on reflex reaction, quick thinking, and knowledge on spot instead of rehashed teams
best of one closed team sheets is the single worst ''meta'' ive ever played and I really feel bad for the Japanese players who had to go through it as a qualifier for worlds, its kind of evil.
Oooof. I dislike best of one in general, let alone closed team sheet. And I'm one of the people who still want closed team sheet. Pretty sure everyone prefers best of 3, outside the people paying for the venue. More interesting for the audience who gets to see the combatants learn and adapt. Better for the players because a gimmick won't just rip them apart.
Best of 1 closed team sheet just rewards pulling out stupid stuff and hoping it works rather than having an actual good team