@@equipmentforliving7253 oh I’ve watched it a million times already, wanted to read the Iliad to get a comparison & I found this video around the same time!
And Agamemnon is a great warrior in his own right , within the top 3 warriors of the "greeks"(not called that in the Illiad) to the point Agamemnon, Achilles and one of the Ajax(or was it Odysseus?) draw lots to see who would fight hector. And in the Poem, Hector steals and wears the golden armor of Achilles after defeating the latters impersonator. And hector will go on wearing that armour when "fighting"/running from Achilles in absolute terror. Also in the Iliad it states that Ajax lifted a boulder that no man of Homers time could lift, which I took as implying he was retelling a far older tale but it's debatable. I also want to say Achilles was killed before the Trojan horse but I could be mistaken. Been years since I've read it, and I've only read it once. Many differences to be sure. *I was listening to the video as I typed this, forgive me if what I posted was said in the video lol*
And Agamemnon is a great warrior in his own right , within the top 3 warriors of the "greeks"(not called that in the Illiad) to the point Agamemnon, Achilles and one of the Ajax(or was it Odysseus?) draw lots to see who would fight hector. And in the Poem, Hector steals and wears the golden armor of Achilles after defeating the latters impersonator. And hector will go on wearing that armour when "fighting"/running from Achilles in absolute terror. Also in the Iliad it states that Ajax lifted a boulder that no man of Homers time could lift, which I took as implying he was retelling a far older tale but it's debatable. I also want to say Achilles was killed before the Trojan horse but I could be mistaken. Been years since I've read it, and I've only read it once. Many differences to be sure. *I was listening to the video as I typed this, forgive me if what I posted was said in the video lol*
I read Iliad it's starts from argue between Achilles and Agamemnon not like movies. And Achilles won't fight Agamemnon because Athena, send by Hera, told him not to. (I miss gods in the movies) There is no evidence in books (source material) that Patroclus is lover of Achilles. Thats just liberal lies. And Patroclus dies different then in the movies: Hector knew he fights Patroclus, (who wass blinded by Appolo and wounded from behind)not Achilles.
Great video. Really educated me on why the Iliad still stands the test of time.
I have never agreed with anything harder than the line about being better at direct adaptation than moving beyond the source material.
Well done! Just got done reading the Iliad so the timing is perfect!
Nice! Definitely worth watching Troy if you haven't yet
@@equipmentforliving7253 oh I’ve watched it a million times already, wanted to read the Iliad to get a comparison & I found this video around the same time!
@@TheMMAwelder nice, I hope you enjoyed comparing them as much as I did!
And Agamemnon is a great warrior in his own right , within the top 3 warriors of the "greeks"(not called that in the Illiad) to the point Agamemnon, Achilles and one of the Ajax(or was it Odysseus?) draw lots to see who would fight hector.
And in the Poem, Hector steals and wears the golden armor of Achilles after defeating the latters impersonator. And hector will go on wearing that armour when "fighting"/running from Achilles in absolute terror.
Also in the Iliad it states that Ajax lifted a boulder that no man of Homers time could lift, which I took as implying he was retelling a far older tale but it's debatable.
I also want to say Achilles was killed before the Trojan horse but I could be mistaken. Been years since I've read it, and I've only read it once.
Many differences to be sure.
*I was listening to the video as I typed this, forgive me if what I posted was said in the video lol*
It has no Diomedes so it's bad.
3:45 Weird way to tell everyone you haven't actually read the Iliad.
Agamemnon survived in reality and menelaus takes back Helen, Paris dies in war.. This movie is totally different😂
A lot of strange choices all around
And Agamemnon is a great warrior in his own right , within the top 3 warriors of the "greeks"(not called that in the Illiad) to the point Agamemnon, Achilles and one of the Ajax(or was it Odysseus?) draw lots to see who would fight hector.
And in the Poem, Hector steals and wears the golden armor of Achilles after defeating the latters impersonator. And hector will go on wearing that armour when "fighting"/running from Achilles in absolute terror.
Also in the Iliad it states that Ajax lifted a boulder that no man of Homers time could lift, which I took as implying he was retelling a far older tale but it's debatable.
I also want to say Achilles was killed before the Trojan horse but I could be mistaken. Been years since I've read it, and I've only read it once.
Many differences to be sure.
*I was listening to the video as I typed this, forgive me if what I posted was said in the video lol*
Very cool!
I read Iliad it's starts from argue between Achilles and Agamemnon not like movies. And Achilles won't fight Agamemnon because Athena, send by Hera, told him not to. (I miss gods in the movies) There is no evidence in books (source material) that Patroclus is lover of Achilles. Thats just liberal lies. And Patroclus dies different then in the movies: Hector knew he fights Patroclus, (who wass blinded by Appolo and wounded from behind)not Achilles.
Thank you, I didn't recall it even implying that Patroclus was the lover of Achilles.