Whats great about Upward Compression with vocals is that you can bring up all the timber in a voice without having to eat the mic, so in other words, it's a pseudo way of sending the mic almost down your throat (depending how aggressive you get with it) while avoiding the plosives or otherwise unnaturalness of being so close to the mic/capsule. Its what I've used for years to make my tracks sound so textured.
Devvon... God bless you man! Giving us industry secrets that NO ONE on youtube is talking about. For free! Along with templates, and stepo by step tutorials. And on the other hand blessin us with your vocals with your music.
It's traditionally called an Expander, I've never heard of it called upward compression before, bit it's a good way to explain it for people who are not familiar with the concept.
@@expertizzlist yes, they are opposite, but what he is describing and using is an expander + compressor. Its an expander for the quite parts and a compressor for the loud parts. Many compressors that are graph based (such as cool edit / adobe audition) use a graph with a zero line diagonally, anything pushed up past it is expand, anything pushed down bellow is conpression.
@@CayenneTravels It's not an expander for the quiet parts, though, because an expander doesn't raise the volume of quieter parts, it lowers them. It expands dynamic range, which is the opposite of compression. Upward compression is more similar to auto gain, but without compressing the louder parts first. 🤓
@@expertizzlist if it just changes the volume, without effecting the curve, but I can see how it could do that. Noise gate, expander and compressor are the same thing (check out a graph-based one where you can do all 3 on the same graph. A noise gate cuts the quiet, an expander boosts, a compressor lowers. All three based on a se threshold and ratio. I tried to draw crude graphs here: Noise gate: / / / __I Expander: _ / / I / Compressor: ___ / / /
I watch your uploads religiously -- I think I've watched them all actually. Sometimes it takes me months to get around watching some of them though, most times because I feel like I've already studied the subject ad nauseum, but I still click on them and everytime, I end up finding something that quenches my thirst. TH-cam's really gone a long way in ten years, and I do hope you keep on putting out such quality materials and insights. That being said, there's one thing I've been constantly wishing while watching you, so I'm putting it here now because I found myself wishing for it again: please, please, crank up your examples. Imo it would really help, not only the total neophytes -- but also the more "seasoned" engineers who've never thought to use upward compression on instruments, for example; and give people the extra incentive to actually *try* something new. Only A/Bing between already "perfect" settings, imo, makes it more difficult for people to see how much of a gem the technique/advice you're giving actually is, and makes it hard for them to conceptualize custom applications derived of it. Of course, not showing up cranked up settings gives me, in some degrees, the impetus to actually try the technique you've shown, or the custom application I see for it; but I'd probably be even more excited if I'd heard more of it from the get. Endword: thank you for all your work!
Not only does your music bang, but your helpful tips and advice are always on point bro. You've helped my mixing elevate beyond what I've ever imagined. Thank you so much man. ✊🏾💪🏾💯
I love this plugin I started using this 3 months ago I didn't understand it it wasn't to many videos but the plugin is so easy to use and simple I just put to and to together and it works perfectly and this video made me realize I was using it right 🙏 you the best can you make a video on what do you use to master songs please
I just found out about this technique a few days ago and I've been talking about it, and now Devon just dropped this video. The universe is listening 🤔
I have the MV2 but I prefer MaxxVolume the expanded non dithered version. Mind you, it takes a lil bit more luv to set it up but as in anything your hard work is rewarded. Great channel not only for the newbs but for the experienced engineer as well
You can also use upward compression if you’ve got a part that sounds good but has a few out of control peaks. If you turn it down, it’ll get the peaks in line, but during the other sections where the peaks aren’t crazy, it’ll sound too quiet. So instead of limiting it, and chopping off those peaks, you can use upward compression, set the threshold to bring the quiet parts up, and leave the peaks alone.
Thx for this video bro. I have this plugin and never used it because I didn’t quite understand how to manipulate it to my advantage. Now I fully understand it. Great for accentuating nuances. Subscribed a while ago. Thx again. 🔥 music too bruh!!
Dope video like usual bro! I always appreciate the knowledge. I think this would work great on adlibs and background vocals to make them sound more present even at lower volumes
So upward compressing isn't actually compressing then? It's just bringing up volume below a certain threshold? Therefore, maintaining dynamics, but bringing up low level details? Thanks for the great video btw!
Ryan Reach No it is still compression. All types of compression are about adjusting gain above or below a certain threshold. Downward compression, or classic compression, lowers what’s above the threshold of a signal, then gain is used to bring up the entire signal because it’s been made quieter. Upward compression is the opposite in that it brings up what is below the threshold of a signal. See, in both cases it’s just a matter of adjusting gain. Upward compression lowers dynamics just like downward compression does. A more dynamic signal is one that has a higher dB range between the loudest part of the signal and the quietest part of the signal, so lowering that difference with any kind of compression lowers dynamics. However, a more dynamic signal doesn’t necessarily mean a better signal for the mix; if parts of the signal are so low that you cannot hear them in the mix or so high that they overpower the mix, then the dynamic range of such a signal is too high and is bad for the mix. I hope this explanation cleared up any confusion.
yaow devon thank you delving in on this topic, i have been avoiding this technique for a while mainly because i thought it was mostly a buss thing or for mastering, but i have since learned that its a BIG industry Secret for pulling up on Sound , totally opposite to the Gate, which acts like weight pulling down on sound.
Bro you are really amazing i watch all your videos everytime and am really waiting for the video on realtime compression on vocals while recording vocals how to do that so that we get a good dynamic vocal recording before even processing vocals later..
Brutha. Can I give you a simple suggestion? No Disrespect. Get with a DJ for like 1-2 Hours to specifically discuss tempos and Kick Patterns. If I was to A+R your music...understanding BPM and Kick Drum Patterns would be my #1 concern. I think if you do that...it will make a major impact on your music. Just like you have done for so many others. Peace ✌
People in the comments, try this. A good amount of Upward compression (3-10db) + A small amount of downward compression with a fast attack and high ratio (0.5-3db)
Thank you so much for this gem bro!!! Could you also make a video on how to do upward compression with stock plugins in pro tools? Love your videos man. Keep up the great content!
I'm having trouble understanding why Upwards compression is any different than setting make-up gain and extra downwards compression to compensate the boosted highs. Is there even a difference? Or is this just a streamlined way of doing what i described? Thanks
i watch YT vids at 2x speed so i chuckled when he said "everything seem too fast" because i really had to slow it down to normal to hear the difference
I found this new plugin in waves called Scheps Omni Channel I want you to go over how to use. It looks like it was made by slate digital and sounds good but I don’t really know how to use it.
Hey Devvon , i really love what you do and how you bring us everything so clairly. But I have a question. Why are you still using oder vst plugins although you already use izotope one , like nectar 3 or neutron ? Thank you for your response to my question 👍
What headphones and studio monitors do you have? Do you mix and master on one pair of headphones and speakers or do you switch between different ones ?
but isn't the mv a low-level compressor, which brings the sound up from the floor, upward compression turns sound up instead of turning down, based on the threshold settings and ratio
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Mv2 also brings out the reverbs harmonics in a reverb chain.Nice tutorial.
Hell yes!
Whats great about Upward Compression with vocals is that you can bring up all the timber in a voice without having to eat the mic, so in other words, it's a pseudo way of sending the mic almost down your throat (depending how aggressive you get with it) while avoiding the plosives or otherwise unnaturalness of being so close to the mic/capsule. Its what I've used for years to make my tracks sound so textured.
Devvon... God bless you man! Giving us industry secrets that NO ONE on youtube is talking about. For free! Along with templates, and stepo by step tutorials. And on the other hand blessin us with your vocals with your music.
Facts!!
This is exactly what i was thinking existed but i had no idea how to do it or what it would be called lmao. Dead on thanks bro.
It's traditionally called an Expander, I've never heard of it called upward compression before, bit it's a good way to explain it for people who are not familiar with the concept.
The reason you never heard it being called that is that it's not the same thing at all. In fact, an expander does the opposite of compress.
@@expertizzlist yes, they are opposite, but what he is describing and using is an expander + compressor. Its an expander for the quite parts and a compressor for the loud parts. Many compressors that are graph based (such as cool edit / adobe audition) use a graph with a zero line diagonally, anything pushed up past it is expand, anything pushed down bellow is conpression.
@@CayenneTravels It's not an expander for the quiet parts, though, because an expander doesn't raise the volume of quieter parts, it lowers them. It expands dynamic range, which is the opposite of compression. Upward compression is more similar to auto gain, but without compressing the louder parts first. 🤓
@@expertizzlist if it just changes the volume, without effecting the curve, but I can see how it could do that. Noise gate, expander and compressor are the same thing (check out a graph-based one where you can do all 3 on the same graph. A noise gate cuts the quiet, an expander boosts, a compressor lowers. All three based on a se threshold and ratio. I tried to draw crude graphs here:
Noise gate:
/
/
/
__I
Expander:
_ /
/
I
/
Compressor:
___
/
/
/
Note base line 0db is disgonal:
/
/
/
/
That song is CATCHY AS HELL. Damn. I like that better than 90% of the Top 100 right about now.
liked the video before it even started. This man is a treasure.
Thats love yo!!
I watch your uploads religiously -- I think I've watched them all actually. Sometimes it takes me months to get around watching some of them though, most times because I feel like I've already studied the subject ad nauseum, but I still click on them and everytime, I end up finding something that quenches my thirst. TH-cam's really gone a long way in ten years, and I do hope you keep on putting out such quality materials and insights.
That being said, there's one thing I've been constantly wishing while watching you, so I'm putting it here now because I found myself wishing for it again: please, please, crank up your examples. Imo it would really help, not only the total neophytes -- but also the more "seasoned" engineers who've never thought to use upward compression on instruments, for example; and give people the extra incentive to actually *try* something new. Only A/Bing between already "perfect" settings, imo, makes it more difficult for people to see how much of a gem the technique/advice you're giving actually is, and makes it hard for them to conceptualize custom applications derived of it. Of course, not showing up cranked up settings gives me, in some degrees, the impetus to actually try the technique you've shown, or the custom application I see for it; but I'd probably be even more excited if I'd heard more of it from the get.
Endword: thank you for all your work!
U showing off with your engineering skill!!! super dope
This guy shows tiny and secret things,that have a huge impact in music and I LOVE IT!!!
Working in Parallel with this MV2 is crazyyyyyyy!!!!!
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Not only does your music bang, but your helpful tips and advice are always on point bro. You've helped my mixing elevate beyond what I've ever imagined. Thank you so much man. ✊🏾💪🏾💯
I love this plugin I started using this 3 months ago I didn't understand it it wasn't to many videos but the plugin is so easy to use and simple I just put to and to together and it works perfectly and this video made me realize I was using it right 🙏 you the best can you make a video on what do you use to master songs please
I just found out about this technique a few days ago and I've been talking about it, and now Devon just dropped this video. The universe is listening 🤔
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Thank you Devon, I get it, I already Mv2 from certains pro engineer . It's like Xfer OTT (upward and downward MultiBand compressor)
I have the MV2 but I prefer MaxxVolume the expanded non dithered version. Mind you, it takes a lil bit more luv to set it up but as in anything your hard work is rewarded. Great channel not only for the newbs but for the experienced engineer as well
Awesome technique! I use it to increase the reverb of my bedroom-recorded claps.
You can also use upward compression if you’ve got a part that sounds good but has a few out of control peaks. If you turn it down, it’ll get the peaks in line, but during the other sections where the peaks aren’t crazy, it’ll sound too quiet. So instead of limiting it, and chopping off those peaks, you can use upward compression, set the threshold to bring the quiet parts up, and leave the peaks alone.
Thx for this video bro. I have this plugin and never used it because I didn’t quite understand how to manipulate it to my advantage. Now I fully understand it. Great for accentuating nuances. Subscribed a while ago. Thx again. 🔥 music too bruh!!
Hey bro I think the correct words ur looking for is expander or expansion and can also be achieved with R Comp or with more detail by ProMB.
hey man could you tell us how to do this same thing with R COMP please? tryna save £30 lol
Dope record bro. I can tell you like it a lot by your facial expressions lol. Thanks always 🙏🏼
That track is banging!
Nice tutorial as always
Cheers my man,all good stuff to remind me I'm on the right track now.easy and clear 👌.keep em coming
Awesome stuff !!! Definitely Game Changer
This is mad dope man I thought I knew everything but just proves your teaching us super advanced major skills !!
Good tutorial for MV2 on vocals. I imagine it can have positive effects on all sorts of instruments.
This track hard as fuck smh
thank you DEVVON
Awesome song! I like it. Really cool vibe with the whisper rapping, that’s really interesting. You got a new sub bruh.
Nick K glad to have u aboard!!
also very awesome on elektronic music on the master. glues everything together a little more.
Dope video like usual bro! I always appreciate the knowledge. I think this would work great on adlibs and background vocals to make them sound more present even at lower volumes
So upward compressing isn't actually compressing then? It's just bringing up volume below a certain threshold? Therefore, maintaining dynamics, but bringing up low level details? Thanks for the great video btw!
Ryan Reach No it is still compression. All types of compression are about adjusting gain above or below a certain threshold. Downward compression, or classic compression, lowers what’s above the threshold of a signal, then gain is used to bring up the entire signal because it’s been made quieter. Upward compression is the opposite in that it brings up what is below the threshold of a signal. See, in both cases it’s just a matter of adjusting gain. Upward compression lowers dynamics just like downward compression does. A more dynamic signal is one that has a higher dB range between the loudest part of the signal and the quietest part of the signal, so lowering that difference with any kind of compression lowers dynamics. However, a more dynamic signal doesn’t necessarily mean a better signal for the mix; if parts of the signal are so low that you cannot hear them in the mix or so high that they overpower the mix, then the dynamic range of such a signal is too high and is bad for the mix. I hope this explanation cleared up any confusion.
Waves C1 is great for this also
yaow devon thank you delving in on this topic, i have been avoiding this technique for a while mainly because i thought it was mostly a buss thing or for mastering, but i have since learned that its a BIG industry Secret for pulling up on Sound , totally opposite to the Gate, which acts like weight pulling down on sound.
Notification gang!!! Man thank you so much for these videos. By far the most powerful channel for artists/ producers
OTT at low percentages sounds a little better/tighter than this plugin to me and its free
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Bro you are really amazing i watch all your videos everytime and am really waiting for the video on realtime compression on vocals while recording vocals how to do that so that we get a good dynamic vocal recording before even processing vocals later..
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Nobody gon talk about how hard that song is tho ???
Brutha. Can I give you a simple suggestion? No Disrespect. Get with a DJ for like 1-2 Hours to specifically discuss tempos and Kick Patterns. If I was to A+R your music...understanding BPM and Kick Drum Patterns would be my #1 concern. I think if you do that...it will make a major impact on your music. Just like you have done for so many others. Peace ✌
Top shelf explanation. Thank you!
Appreciate ur help G. I record here at my pad and u always have useful tips. Gracias!
Great video and excellent layman's explanation of how an expander can be used. Instant subscribe ✌️🎶🎶
Also, it would be damn cool if you could make a video on dithering and sample rates! Love the tutorials!
Thats a deep deep topic!!
@@HelpMeDevvon unfortunately! Which is why I was hoping you'd clear it up!😂
People in the comments, try this. A good amount of Upward compression (3-10db) + A small amount of downward compression with a fast attack and high ratio (0.5-3db)
Thank you so much for this gem bro!!! Could you also make a video on how to do upward compression with stock plugins in pro tools? Love your videos man. Keep up the great content!
I love Using this Compressor fa real
Liked in the first 5 seconds.
Super. Well done as always.
You’re helping a lot. Thanks for your vids
Can i use parallel compression, and upward on vocals?
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So should you use upwards and downwards compression so u get balanced vocals
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I'm having trouble understanding why Upwards compression is any different than setting make-up gain and extra downwards compression to compensate the boosted highs. Is there even a difference? Or is this just a streamlined way of doing what i described? Thanks
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Yessss! Amazing. Thanks man!
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i watch YT vids at 2x speed so i chuckled when he said "everything seem too fast" because i really had to slow it down to normal to hear the difference
Fuck wrong w you lmao
yea why lol
where should I put a MV2 in the chain ?
This channel has been so useful for growing as an engineer. Really appreciate how direct and musical you keep your explanations.
Thank you straight to the point
Hello Devvon how are you process to master your song ?
can i use downward compression and upward at the same time
I do this when I want to bring the delay up
Love the video fam..how is the power situation going?
fuckin wid dis your too versatile bro
This songs a banger bruh 🔥🔥💯
the MV2 is the same as VOCAL RIDER? i know the mv2 compress and the vocal rider is vol but they sound similar, whats better?
Yeah we need this template ‼‼‼🤯
I'm def getting the drum kit 2 🎸🎸🎸, that 808 slappin
does upward compression good for mastering?
great video damn those adlibs were sounding nice!!!! devvon give us a travis scott type adlibs tutorial.
I found this new plugin in waves called Scheps Omni Channel I want you to go over how to use. It looks like it was made by slate digital and sounds good but I don’t really know how to use it.
You can’t go wrong with it use depending on the purpose play with it
I like this
Hey Devvon , i really love what you do and how you bring us everything so clairly. But I have a question. Why are you still using oder vst plugins although you already use izotope one , like nectar 3 or neutron ?
Thank you for your response to my question 👍
Also i really want to know how to get a flat response from the mic which is not so expensive like rode nt1a after processing....
Can you make a tutorial on how you did that with your Adlibs?
Is there an alternative, in case we can't afford waves?
@@xeno.s248 thanks man
Put this on my master bus = night and day
Hey Devonn! Could you do a tutorial explaining how the hell they mixed up Childish Gambino's voice in Algorhythm? Thanks! We love you!
Can we get a video about the plugins we can get when we have outgrown the stock plugins.
What headphones and studio monitors do you have?
Do you mix and master on one pair of headphones and speakers or do you switch between different ones ?
Do a Trae the truth template
but isn't the mv a low-level compressor, which brings the sound up from the floor, upward compression turns sound up instead of turning down, based on the threshold settings and ratio
Should I use it on aux channel or use it on main vocal channel ?
You never emailed me back, Devvon! I asked about your career because I want to learn how to produce properly as a career
As many mic dont have frequency responses like u87 mic so how can we get that quality sound from h not so expensive mic??
Hey help me Devon what headphone you using
Bro can you mix one of my songs
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