The 9 Biggest Mistakes Low Stakes Poker Pros Make
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Marc began playing live poker in 2015 and built his initial bankroll playing $1/2 live. In 2017 he began playing full time in LA, where he quickly climbed stakes to the biggest publicly accessible games ($10/20/40). He began commentating for Live at the Bike and Hustler Casino Live, which allowed him to play as big as $200/400.
Gethen began playing online poker over a decade ago where he worked his way up from $7 Sit 'N Go's to $5k Turbos. During the pandemic he mostly played 1k and 2knl cash games online and won north of 8bb/100. He also began to play some of the largest private games in LA, where he regularly played as big as $400/800.
Gethen and Marc met in 2021, and quickly bonded over a shared approach to the game. In late 2022, they began offering 28 Day Bootcamps to help serious players climb to high stakes just like them, and Hungry Horse was born.
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Thank you sososososososososo much, Mark. I came across this video three weeks ago and have watched it twenty times. I play poker for a living, and my hourly pay has doubled! Yesterday was the best. I made $2256 in just seven hours. Keep up the great work!
@@johnmar6376 what stakes are you playing? Congrats on the nice score!!
Already watching it for the 2nd time and on my way to get to 20 as well.
This video is gold for people who've learned to avoid "schoolboy" errors, but want to take it up a notch.
2:27 I agree giving up at the end is why so many aren’t profitable. At the same time, with a board like that, your opponents gonna be thinking all of the same things, missed flush draw, straight didn’t get there and they may have a medium pair and will ultimately call you down. That player is also gonna have notes on you throughout that game and if you’re not telling a convincing story, you will be called down, especially at lower stakes.
Hi Mark! I'm a mid-high stake short deck pro. I still find your content ideas brilliant even for my format. Keep it going brother!
There’s such a thing as a high stakes short deck pro? How many of you are there? 1?
@@nicholi2789 didn't count them but unfortunately I'm not alone ;(
@@nicholi2789 short deck is popular, especially in asia
@@nicholi2789 Ask the Macao rolex dealers, they can tell you.
Really really good stuff, you’re a talented teacher
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Thank you, hope you have a great year. I really enjoy your videos, you have a great way of communicating a lot of information in a really understandable way. I hope one day to be able to afford one of your courses.
Your hair is looking good in this video
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it's the poker pro-vitamins
Looks fantastic tbh
@horn2102 off topic, do you have a.d.d. lol
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11:50 after my experience by low stake players you will often never get a fold there. if they are holding 2 pair or a set, they will call the jam. Because they start with the check to trap the other player. and with this in mind 90% of low stake player by 5/5 max buyin 1500 they never fold there after my experience. but anyway great video❤
You can either learn from him or sit in the comment section and argue and look like a 🤡
The guy is a winning player
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Hi, Mark. Good content! Keep it up!!!
What Mark neglects to address in the first example is that sometimes even when we have zero showdown value. There are plenty of times that a bluff loses us more money than it makes us. Which is why sometimes... SOMETIMES it's better to just give up.
You are on another level and I’m 20 floors down, amazing content!!
Im 2000 floors down.
"Tricky Phil Hellmuth bullshit "would make for a great song title
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Sung by Bob Dylan?
Great stuff. The only thing I'd say is that as a slowly losing tight player I over fold not because I think other players underbluff but because I think they know I'm value dense so when they're betting against me it's because they can beat my thin value hand like TPTK or over pairs. Also the 1/3 Flop, 2/3-3/4 turn bet sizing is just regs trying to be balanced because this is what the solvers have told them.
super helpful outlining mistakes and corrections. bravo
around 23 min.. what's your 'double barrel' sizing on the turn ? I would have like to see a few scenarios play out.
Your videos are fire! love it.
Keep up the content Marc, love your vids.
Great video as always, i wait for your videos every week. I play 1-2c zoom poker and i have 80% of the notes saying "trapper".
Marc this is really good stuff, as a part time for profit player these are definitely mistakes I see myself making sometimes. Showdown fallacy is a really good one and I think will become a mainstay in poker training.
Great work man. Wish I had seen ya at hustler 5-5 when I was there a few weeks ago
Nice content Mark. I've played low, to medium, to high stakes from 1979 to now - (part time). This was accross limit, pot-limit, and no limit games - mostly hold -em. Clearly, the average player is better today - a result of better available information. As we continue to adjust to changing skill levels, the main consideration for winning players remains the same - game selection!! All great players know it!
You just got a subscriber. This is such a good video. I love your analysis
More live hand videos! Those were great!
It makes me feel good to see your subscribers continuing to go up. I feel like I’m growing up with you 😅
together we will become the biggest bois
Thank you for the video!!
Marc, what would your sizing be on the turn here 23:05?
Something like 120 or so because they are capped?
And on the river on a blank, on let's say a 9 or a 3?
1/4 pot to fold out a draw and about 450-500 to fold out Qx hands?
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I have the same question. I figured it was B50-B100-B150 on a non completing flush. I want B150 to get both Qx and missed draws to fold as a catch-all size.
Maybe B100 on a flush completing card targeting Qx to fold? Are there any rivers you are giving up?
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I 💜 when Marc says "Wait one more beat..." The musician in him comes out.
Good video bro what tool do you use to study?
The “opponents view” is gold. Keep it up monsieur goone
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Nice! Thanks Brother
Hey ! Great content. Are these strategies applicable to Online play ?
watch every second of this and do not regret it at all
I feel like this video was made for me specifically. So many of the mistakes you mention are mistakes I regularly make. I think I can up my game immediately with a couple of fixes, specifically turn-play based on the ideas presented here.
Marc goon! Absolute grinder keep up the amazing content, do you have typical schedule of when you upload the low stakes video series?
thursdays
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Agree 100%... your videos are a gold mine for live low stakes. The exploitative concepts are simple and the logical threads pull through. Only ask if you can remember to emphasize the player type we're exploiting a little more ... Recreational player, reg, low stakes pro etc ...
You forgot to mention the math equation: A higher win rate=a higher rate of hittin those skins.
Watch this... then watch again... and again...
Every example is exploitive, not a single math calc... just real life cash game poker.
Position, aggression, fold equity.
Hero's unbalanced turn bets can certainly be exploited, but who's paying attention?
If you're not making yourself uncomfortable at the table, you're not making anyone uncomfortable.
As a typical abc player with a blue line going up, red line going down and actual winnings just slightly winning arround 1-2bb/100, i gotta review and internalize this video and i think i will be good! thanks for this great content.
Gethen my ❤
Timestamps would add to this type of wonderful video ❤
What is your avg cash game vpip
Excellent advice I would add if you have some information on your opponent's tendencies or body tells you could make the necessary adjustments.
1. Not continuing to bluff the river
2. Bluffing into uncapped ranges
3. Making large bets on board changing cards
4. Bluffing IP villains/ they trap more
5. To be continued...
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Someone needs to send this to Hellmuth, not because of the call out. He could just genuinely use this advice for his game. 😂
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@hungry horse What program/tool do you use to visualulize the hands?
not OP but I had the same question and googled the logo on the felt plus poker and got holdem manager 3, which looks like the program.
I know this comment is a bit late, but what do you recommend doing when opponents start adjusting to your big boi overbet bluffs and calling thin?
Great video!
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Hey, mate. Nice video. Do you think that checking range OOP as a simplification also works in 4bet pots?
no, would not recommend. we x oop because they overstab and tell us what they have. in 4bp that doesn’t happen.
@ Thank you. Chet range 1/4pot then?
this is so good
Awesome video mark it really illuminated a lot of thing. My one gripe is that you said the low stakes pro was bad to call out of the small blind, but then countered your own logic when you also called pocket aces to a squeeze. But calling with strong prelim hands against players that will bluff more than they should, and also appropriately thinly bet. Calling aces isn’t bad. His mistake was check raising the flop and not letting you blast off.
maybe i didn’t emphasize the point enough. the point wasn’t to call with aces to let someone bluff, it was because the original player who opened had a $125 stack and rest of table had $1000. i don’t care about winning $125. if i 3b i shut the rest of table out.
COMPLETELY different than flatting aa sb vs btn. apples to uranium comparison.
@ this is a very good point, I’d say the biggest weakness in my game is knowing stack sizes and it showed.
I'm going to admit it. I want to be in the "Thin Value Boy" club. Keep up the great work,,
If you have seen fish cold call 3b’s in the field in a splashy game, do you change how you think about 3 betting pro’s?
I feel like this strategy works very well against a player pool that has alot of different people in it. What about you play against the same people day in day out?
Serious and not at all trolly question: the KJ small bet bluff turn small bet bluff river line on the board pairing turn example, we are really only targeting the A high part of their range. How likely is the small bet to fold out A high? I guess we have a good price on the river bluff so A high can hero us 1/2 the time and our bluff still is profitable?
Great material! When are you going to write a book?
ppl still read poker books?!
@@hungryhorsepoker lol, well, you will need to put in lots of pictures.
Great content… it will take me months to absorb this content. I do get the Johnny Fever vibes….
Marc shamelessly stealing River Blunder Theorem from Carrot Poker School... Pete Clarke would be proud
The way I handle flush draw on the turn is to keep villain in - pot size would fold out most draws hence I go your dreaded half pot/three quarters. Are you 100% sure we should always go bigger here?
I believe he said to go smaller so that they raise flushes and continue with hands drawing dead.
God bless Marc.
isn't it a contradicting strategy when you say bet bigger with value on blank turns, but also double barrel more with bluffs. Or do you take a smaller to medium size when double barrel bluffing on a blank turn?
Slightly disagree with pt8; tight small stakes players dont tend to overfold - they always have a "strong" hand (preflop at least, they fail to calibrate post flop), and think everyone else plays too loose.
I see the nits in my games make some of the worst turn and river calls. A lot of them have a hard time releasing the big pair they waited all night for.
@32:50. good spot to bet 2.5x on river not 1.1x
What sizing do you bluff river on the first hand?
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How about a video explaining terminology.. I am a very solid 1-2 player who makes good money playing 2-3 a week. I have no idea what things like show down value, under bluffing, and double barrel, etc mean.
Would you also use these strategies if you played with pretty much the same people everyday (home game), some of them capable of making adjustments?
yes
Marc, I have a common situation at 1/3 when button straddles and early/mid poisions just call.
And lets say I'm in cut off. I have so many hands to open with but even if I go for 30-35 almost always nobody's is folding and I get to see the flop with 4-5 players.
Unless I go for higher opening size like 55 or 65 to end up heads up and 3 way.
Would you make you cut off range range much more narrow for such table and open big or would you consider to call along with medium hands and raise big with strong hands?
If everyone's calling, you have to narrow your range unless they are loose-weak...
Showdown Phallus-y is why I'm not allowed to be a substitute teacher
how much should i bet on that 67s hand on the river
the first example
You shouldn't be betting because you don't have show down value. You're talking about show down value as a consideration when you're not on the river and lots could change. I'm not a low stakes pro but I bet for two reasons 1. Add more money to the pot in the event I win, 2. and to prevent my opponents from realizing their equity. This is great advice from Matthew Janda
he's saying people don't call enough to counter bluffing rivers. You bet because it prints but you would normally only bet some of your non showdown value instead of all of them.
The call out of bluffing because we block AQ and AJ hurts, because I totally just triple barrel bluffed into a brick wall with that exact hand last weekend, haha
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Are people with poker tattoos any good at poker?
everyone is bad
I'm finding that my opponenets refuse to raise the flop with good hands, any advice?
Ty cutie. Although I think that you're overestimating how sticky low stakes players are with top pair. I agree with everything you said and I would still bluff on the J high board when the flush and straight get there. But I do it not to get QJ to fold, I just know at least in the games I play people will literally never fold top pair but also I'll know my opponent won't have top pair because if they did have QJ they'd be raising the flop. At least that's the observations I made in the games I play in my area.
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@@hungryhorsepoker sorry I edited my comment just now and added some thoughts!
A lot of times when people say this they are playing 1/2 or 1/3. 2/5 or especially 5/5, players are better and therefore will fold top pair. It's actually a pretty different player population. In 1/2, you can't get someone to fold top pair. Usually the stack depth isn't there and calling it all off for 150 into a pot of 100 is not that hard for them. But in 2/5, people will be hesitant to put in 600 more into a pot of 300. One of the main ways humans are not rational is they respond differently to absolute sizes compared to relative sizes. Technically a 200 bet into 100 should feel the same as a 600 bet into 300, but humans don't respond that way.
Also, another difference in the player population between 1/2 and 2/5 is that players will not raise as much with good hands. They're super passive. That's why you have to play for more money with thin value at 1/2.
I played a guy at my casino half a year ago. I had AK suited in position. He called my triple barrel, which arguably probably had shit sizes and maybe he knew a tell of mine, with pocket 6s. He said "i got a pair so I have to call"... Yes there are plenty of low stakes sticky players. But I'm getting better at spotting it, and getting reads.
I think a good player would have known that guy was an idiot, and not triple barreled like i did. Also sizing, timing, live tells. I'm thinking the calling stations can easily be spotted and abused.
Since that day I've continued studying and am much better. I can't wait to see that guy again.
Also, i r rarely see people buy in with 100 bb, which is a straight tell. My game has a max buy in of 200bb and I'm the only one I've seen buy in for that amount. These people with 33 or 50bb stacks are crazy, and it's getting easier to tell what type of player they are as i study. I'm getting pretty pumped cause I've done 40 an hour over 10p hours, when i was a nit. I'm ready to abuse regulars, not just casual maniacs, or the gambler that shows up on weekends.
He’s not going to sleep with you bro
That's not a bellybuster at 2:50, the J would have to be a 10 to give the required double gutter
your confidence is inspiring, but you should prolly look up what a belly buster is first.
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What are the implications are of a dry side pot? I think I know but would like to hear from good players.
In an attempt to balance the range of humans playing poker, instead of solely big boi bluffs and big boi value bets, could we also have big gurl value bets and big gurl bluffs? Please and thank you.
I mean, I guess my opinion is just be authentic.
If you don’t “mix up your genders” or whatever, because you don’t think about it (like most everyone in real life) I don’t think that means you’re a bad person or sexist. You just don’t think about it all that much. Like me.
And, if this is the case for him my preference would be to be his real self, which he seems to be.
And if another person has that value, like you clearly do, I’d rather that you DO mix it up, again in the name of authenticity.
I personally dislike the rampant pandering and inauthenticity. Just be your natural self. And let other so the same.
Live and let live. I let you do you, and you let me be me.
I mean, what’s wrong with that?
What would you bet in the first scenario on the river to make him give up with his missed hands?
a tomato
The turn card king on the first hand is a GREAT card to barrell
especially when the fish floated with AK KQ KJ!
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When you talk about being able to go thin for value or put in big bluffs, something was a bit confusing there.
In the example you showed you kind of made it sound like in the same scenario we could have a big bluff or a thin value hand. But aren’t the board textures and opponent ranges that favor thin value bets totally different from where we want to put in huge bluffs?
Maybe I’m completely misunderstanding but if we can overbet jam for thin value with top pair, get called off and we’re good, then that’s certainly a HORRIBLE spot to be blasting off with J high, right? Because if our opponent is calling with second pair on a paired board, that just seems like a spot to either bluff small or even give up no?
you’re absolutely correct. wasn’t necessarily discussing the spot, just how players are capable of one or other.
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I’m up $700 bucks over 80 hrs playing 1/3… POKER is not easy! People who make a lot of money from this are crazy talented!
With the rakes as they are and much of the advanced-basics being old hat now, it can indeed be tough.
I made $1,000 in one night of 1/3……. It’s really easy dude
They go to higher stakes so their victories win more. Pros would struggle to beat the cowboys at a 1-3.
If you ever wrote a book with tons of practice exercises in it, I would be the first to buy it! I don't care how much it would cost.
If you check you lose 100% of the time. If you bet you only lose 98% of the time.
I like those odds :D
I wish more of this V action applied to 1/2 in TX lol these people are crazy
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31:01 you are 100 percent correct. That is good bucketing right there. Its hard to find a player that can do both.
1. checking range out of position
2. betting range small in position
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What are the chances a scenario happens, truly happened to me at the Casino today? Probability 3.74 x 10 -19thpower 19 zeros are casinos legitimate? 25 rotations... aprox 250 hands I only saw 4 playable hands in position... and only saw one gut shot draw on a flop to a flush...
four playable hands i saw, k10 suited j10 twice unsuited, Q9 suited best hands i saw...
Talking about all my recent mistakes. I feel violated
Ok not all. Only a few in the first half
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Depends.
Enough so that you’ll raise with your strong shit, and call with your weak shit.
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You should name this video how to punt off your stack.
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Damn it Marc, please take this video down!! ;)
Do you always refer to the game as "live" poker because online poker is an absolute free for all western where 0 rules apply?
Live poker is in person…
@braydentautges lol, yes, I realize that.
understand the logic, but bluffing too much can be exploited. i'd just check to you on most rivers and let you trap yourself