MLB’s Biggest Cheaters Are in Big Trouble
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My favorite thing about being a twins fan is that there is literally no way anyone is cheating because everyone is so bad.
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The Orioles are the worst in the league and there was still that clip
Same here only with the Royals
same here with rangers it’s worse if anyone in the organization is cheating cause wow we’re horrible
The reason I stopped watching baseball
Gerrit cole sounded like he was lagging out during his press conference
The guy with the shitty internet during a Discord call
@@Karmy.
I don’t like being compared to Gerrit Cole like that
For example, I’ve never been and never will be paid 300 million for cheating
Well he wasn’t lol
Kermit Cole
if he didnt blink so much he could've ran with it and pretend he froze
"I got hurt because I stopped cheating" has to be the stupidest grievance anybody could put forth.
Yup, along with the pitchers complaining they have to pitch totally different. Are we supposed to care that they have to pitch like humans again since the glue is banned!? Oh no, you have to grip the ball now, you poor professional pitcher??
That's actually the best grievance. Baseball could choose when they decided to start enforcing the rules and doing it midseason didn't give players time to adapt
@@dollgen If they were not cheating to begin with, there would be no issue, and no reason to adapt...
@@-TalonMedia- But that's not the players fault. Once MLB decides to not enforce the rules any player that _does_ follow the rules is putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage for no reason. Look how much Bauer improved when he started cheating and he was able to get a really good deal. If the MLB wants players to follow the rules they have to enforce them (which they're doing now)
They're mostly mad they're watching the leverage they use to get great numbers and huge contracts is slipping through their fingers. On top of that it's openly eating at their legacies. It's this generations steroid scandal. Instead of homerun hitters, it's untouchable pitchers. And they know they're getting caught in the center of it. Hence getting desperate when asked or pushed about it and their performance since the change and drop in rpm.
I remember how umpires would often check Gaylord Perry and sometimes make him towel down on the pitching mound.
Gaylord said he “never used a foreign substance, it was always American made.”
A loopholes a loophole I guess
Gaylord Perry would have been an amazing internet troll.
Still not over the fact that a guy called Gaylord played MLB. Then again Pete LaCock existed.
@@Ballin4Vengeance it’s a pretty common name in south england
I love cheeky responses
Pitcher: Cheats
Gets called out
Pitcher: But baseball is Hard!
**Geritt cole**
To be fair if you’ve ever tried throwing a real mlb ball it’s stupidly hard to grip compared to a normal or even minor league one
@@RDuder I know, I have thrown a gamewith an MLB ball before an it is difficult, but thats the point, if a pro sport was easy than everybody would be doing it
@@gaborvotisky951 that’s valid
@@RDuder that’s bs I happen to have a game ball that i got from a home run and it’s slightly different but not anything major if they have a hard time gripping then they got to change their approach
“It’s just so hard to grip the ball “🤣
I wonder why
*cries in millionaire who throws a ball for a paycheck. What a clown, fuck'em.
So please let me cheat *sniff*
That's what she said!!!
Had me weak
To be fair Trevor Bauer created the best substance and said he was going to do so to make a mockery of how absurd the problem had gotten
Trevor Bauer exposed this issue. He is not a perpetrator by need, he does so as you stated to mock MLB. He even got a suspension because he exposed them, they got mad. His case that they reference was thrown out by a judge, yet the suspension stayed in place. MLB and Manfred are scandalous in everything they do.
Yeah his face shouldn't be up there next to "biggest cheaters". He highlights the issue on purpose and gets scapegoated. Weak
And then he beat his girlfriend bloody.
@@Namiwhere’s the conviction?
@@Namithats case was total bullshyt. The girl was into that kind of thing and it’s is referenced in the text message exchange they had.
I love that Cole is in his thirties but still says “for PETES sake”
Dude sounds like a 1920s Yankee, lol.
That is a very white man right there
🤣🤣😅
Because as soon as you turn 18 you have to swear like a sailor? Just stop.
What's he supposed to say, kid? Ya know, not everybody swears to be cool. Just you and your friends.
This is pretty crazy but you can’t forget, baseball doesn’t exists
Exist*
I forgor
@@theoatsmusic 💀
True dat. Who cares about a typo, you knew exactly what he was talking about.
Btw can you explain where that comes from? The title of the channel.
Those Ohtani stats are a bit misleading. He's had 4 starts since the crackdown, in three of them he pitched 6 or more innings while allowing 2 or fewer runs. The other one was his worst start of the year where he just didn't have it and got blown up for 7 runs in less than 1 inning. That is seriously inflating all his numbers. Outside of that one start, he's been just as good since the substance checks as he was before.
I watched that inning live, and I would say the calls for ohtani behind the plate were bogus. Straight down the middle, ump calls ball.
Exactly. One bad start and people are talking like he should only hit 😂
Six shutout innings his last start. Yeah, he's in big trouble, right?
I think this dude just doesn't like Ohtani. He's tried multiple times to implicate him, which is hilariously backfiring right now and made that sarcastic video mocking the positive fluff coverage of Ohtani. So what, the dude is likable at a time when baseball NEEDS those guys. The NBA just crowned a new king with a wholesome guy in Giannis and everyone with the exception of human turd Skip Bayless, was on board with it. He's humble, He's a nice guy and he's great for the league. So is Shohei. Don't be another Skip Bayless.
and ofcourse Ohtani's performance is much better early this season bec he''s healthy compared to the previous seasons when he's injured or just recovering from his injury.
Cole: 😭 I can’t grip the ball…
Rosin Bag: Why are you the way that you are?
Rosin is made to help with sweat not grip. I’m assuming you’ve never held a ball. Definitely not an mlb ball.
@@stevebutler6428 You ever bowl? It helps with grip.
@@graysonbyass-rascoe4326 can confirm I've been in a bowling league alot of people used it. Even myself occasionally
Rosin has been in baseball since it’s existence smh
Not the media offline screen 😭😭
You don’t even need stats to notice that there’s been an offensive explosion in the last month and a half.
I saw rougned odor is fifth in the al in slugging since the beginning of June so that's certainly an obvious piece of evidence
Someone needs to tell my Texas Rangers about this ‘offensive explosion’ STAT!!
@@mcuthor7831 And tell my Mariners too
@@thorfauci9540 Glad the Yankees finally made a good move.
I love most of your videos, but this one was real good. Wish mlb didn't wait so long to do something about this.
Bauer’s career is now changing for a different reason“COUGH”“COUGH”
The Bauer situation is so disappointing and alarming
@@davidreyna7410 yeah, but I read an article about it and while it seems like he definitely did something pretty bad, it’s doesn’t seem like he deserves to go to prison. Everything in the article was pretty disgusting(meaning I won’t repeat anything here) but it seemed like the girl was very willing and consensual during their encounters. Of course more information will come out though
@@mcmb8254 It's not a manner of whether the woman consented or no but whether or not the agreed upon actions were done while she was conscious or unconscious. If she was conscious AND consenting for the agreed upon acts I agree that he shouldn't go to prison. If however, this woman was not awake AND/or did not consent to the actions during agreed upon sexual intercourse he deserves to go to prison and face the consequences.
It's also telling that this woman only wants Bauer to receive proper care and therapy for his actions.
@@davidreyna7410
Yet not all that surprising, sadly
@@davidreyna7410 how do we know that she was asleep?
I love Josh Donaldson, he make everything crazy and controversial and fun
The funniest part is that Donaldson and Cole are on the same team now
The bullshit of he should get one right in the ribs for opening his mouth is bullshit. Baseball is not the mafia.
@@chancegraf9580 lmao no 😭
Pete Rose banned for life for actions AFTER his playing career (and he NEVER bet against his own team), but chronic cheaters and their teams are left unpunished despite wilfully disgracing the game.
And the only player that suffers from a severe punishment for using Spider Tac while most pitchers were obviusly using it is Trevor Bauer, the new fallguy of MLB.
Could you imagine having spider tack in High school.
every pitcher is going pro
I don’t think they check you in HS right? I’d imagine it’s not taken that seriously and a lot of players could get away with cheating.
@@Justin-gg1ht In low level high school no, they don't want the games to go longer than they already do. High level high school checks do happen
Heck wish I had it in little league lol
Could you imagine throwing a fit over following rules
Didn’t Shohei pass the umpire checks?
He seems like a pretty legit guy
It's clickbait
Shohei is legit - channel owner only analyzed 4 starts, and ONE of them was a significant statistical outlier. This is why creator said his "ERA increased by 3" and that his RPM had decreased by 100
But realistically, if anyone pays attention, its pretty obvious that an ERA increase if 3 is.... rather crazy. It's just poor data analysis, and the video creator's decision to include him in multiple scenes and shots with other people who are much more likely to be cheating is a pretty sick form of clickbait/manipulation if you ask me
@@Nyxcodes hes the biggest player in the sport, he had a stat drop, he got mentioned. On top of that he is included once in the shortest segment if the video in the middle of the pack.
The stats were kinda sus
@@Nyxcodes yep and Shohei was still good after the checks.
I don't even watch baseball of any league, but these videos are so good that I've been binge watching a ton of content from this channel. Great stuff!
same
I’ve only gotten into MLB since 2018 probably, but it’s extremely addicting once you get a little more under the surface of the game.
literally
I'm rebinging recently. I love numbers and stuff. I hate WATCHING baseball. I'm just a filthy stats nerd
BDE is fantastic though, won't lie
Ozzie Guillen comes off looking like a vindictive cheating apologist fool. Essentially calling for pitchers to put at physical risk of serious injury anyone who dares to call out cheating by saying pitchers should hit a man who did call it out?? How pathetic is that. And then when Ozzie is called out for his inferior stats in an era where this cheating wasn't anywhere near as widespread, meaning it was easier to hit without the manipulation of cheating, he flashes his World Series rings as if that meant he was a superior player.
Ozzie Guillen is a joke.
Lmfao “it’s so hard to grip the ball.” Do you have toddler hands or what? That was the funniest excuse I have ever heard.
The funniest part is him trying to be dramatic about it to show the public and everyone else what a difficult and sensitive issue this is but comes across as being on the verge of tears which is probably a bit much lol
Mlb balls are different than regular baseballs
@@RDuder your right, they have better grip lol 😂 I have 1 MLB baseball that I got from going to games. Hideki Matsui threw the baseball in the stands after a 1,2,3 inning going back to the dug out. Will never forget that moment lol
For Pete's sake 😥
@@RDuder thank you. as a kid i loved the balls with thicker laces because the ball was easier to grip and you had more control.
Whenever i got a ball at a big league game, the laces were almost non existent, it felt like holding a lacrosse ball.
one way to get rid of sticky stuff is to make the laces on big league balls pop out more for a natural grip. otherwise you genuinely have no idea where its going.
Some of your video effects in Adobe were never fully rendered somehow.
Media offline
I came here to post this
I noticed that to and I got stressed
Happened on the last video I watched too.
Always check your work
I can't believe that guy was tearing up saying, "it just so hard to grip the ball". Lmfaoooo if my little 8yr old nephew can grip the ball and throw it, I'm pretty sure a full grown man that's been playing the game his whole life can too..
That’s not a good comparison but I get your point lol
Lol Cole nearly crying about how he apparently has difficulty holding solid objects
When you throw that object nearly 100 mph, yeah, it's hard to hold onto it. Especially when you're trying to hit a specific location. And not only that, the lack of grip is dangerous for hitters. Hitters want the pitchers to be able to control their pitches.
@@mchenryjeremy its true but thats not an excuse. Just bc its hard doesnt mean it cant be done. These guys are in the MLB bc they can get it done. If they suddenly arent capable of pitching fast pitches then they should just quit pitching altogether.
@Zack Newton ehhhh you say that, but you've never thrown 100 mph. I threw low 90s, and believe me, I wanted as much grip as possible to control my pitches. So yeah.... it is an excuse when the MLB is trying more and more to make it that much harder to hold onto the ball. Back when I last played ball in 07, foreign substance was as strict as it is today. You could get away with a little more. And it's simply a control thing. Without the grip, throwing a baseball at your max velo is extremely difficult.
the second you said you throw low 90s your entire argument was invalidated. bragging abt irl accomplishments online = liar. On top of that you said the baseball is getting harder to grip, like the mlb is changing the baseball lmao. like buddy, if you cant grip the fucking ball while throwing hard then you arent meant to throw at those speeds. Like based on your argument, your max velo is just how hard you can throw the ball in general. not how hard you can throw it accurately. thats how i can tell you arent a pitcher. max velo isnt how hard you can throw a ball, its how hard you can throw a controlled baseball. if aroldis chapman just chucked the ball as hard as he could he could prob clock at over 105
The baseball is like jelly and falls through my fingers
The hector Santiago issue isnt because the umpires thought he used a foreign substance, he just put rosin on his glove and you can’t put rosin anywhere but your hands. Glove, hat, belt, and everything else is banned.
I would like to ask has this helped any pitchers? Kikuchi has gained velocity and seems to be able to locate better.....
In all fairness to Cole's answer, have you seen other interviews with him? He answers every question like that
“fOr pEtEs sAkE”
He is seriously dim
Ummm, he usually answers the question at least. This was a child who was unable to come up with a sensible lie that he just said "I don't know. Pitching is hard ...". Not shit, that's why you're getting paid millions to do it ...
Should have said it was flaxseed oil
Spent only a few months with Greinke, but picked up his on his superior interview method.
Anyone else see the “media offline” Chinese filter?
Wait a minute there's wheelchair RUGBY?!?
New Title: Pitchers start crying because they have to play by the rules.
@Iceman 19 yea.. they didn’t… your point?
@Iceman 19 fr they just tryna shift blame to a past thing in which they did lose things.
Except scherzer and romo who r just stripping on the field
The thing is the league is allowing the batters to not play by the rules every year
@@ThePastAnalysis your new big book word to learn for the day is “Sarcasm”.
Makes you think how many kids got screwed out of scholarships by other kids who knew about this stuff
What lol… if that’s your problem in this situation I don’t even know what to say to you lol. The supplier said this is super recent and only now getting to the college level. Sounds like you weren’t paying attention. Sorry you didn’t get recruited buddy.
@@bigchunguscultmember1267 other sticky substances too
@@bigchunguscultmember1267 Why are you taking his comment so personally?
@@TAAB11 because he cheats every chance he gets in life and finds it a personal attack to be against it.
@@bigchunguscultmember1267 we get it, u use spider tack
As a baseball guy, when Cole left the pirates and became a beast I knew something was up, just couldn’t believe that a guy that bad can become that good. He was awful with the pirates
He did have a 2.60 ERA and a 2.66 FIP in 2015. I think the biggest factor for him was Brent Strom.
or it was just that everyone who plays in Pittsburg sucks lol
The ball being different this year helps
I wish more people would cheat while on the Pirates instead of after they leave
"I, for one, welcome our new umpire overlords..."
Seriously, though, I'm happy that they are cracking down on this. Every team has AT LEAST one or two pitchers cheating.
This guy is so underrated. The way he tells his stories and his voice are very unique
Yeah
Facts
@gyrergd
But it’s so generic white guy it’s unique!
He's good, but he intentionally makes everything sound really extravagant and dramatic, like a reporter for E! or some shit. He also says the same thing 50x in every video and half his videos are the same exact thing reworded
his voice is annoying and he sounds like a dork. I do enjoy the content regardless.
well bauer's career might be over even without the sticky stuff situation.
Let’s just say he’s in another sticky situation
These Ho’s Ain’t Loyal
@@kingdingaling2469 stop
Sticky stuff is the least of his issues. It's kind of like the 2019 baltimore orioles when chris davis was the least of their issues
Yup
The hell is with all the Media Offline stuff?
Asset missing in final render, usually happens when files are moved or deleted. I'm guessing the files were charts and the media offline screen is a default for missing assets.
i'd like to see the data on how much spin rate varied game to game or month to month for these pitchers prior to the change. I suspect that absent foreign substances, any pitcher's spin rate for a given pitch should vary relatively little growing or declining in terms of several seasons only. If experience, age or physical condition was the predominate factor, then spin rate changes should be predictable and roughly uniform across the league and over time.
I find it funny how they cry about the rule change even though they were cheating. They basically cheated their way to multi-million $ contracts I think teams should be able to terminate contracts for this
The teams paid for the advice of these cheaters. The teams paid for what they were using in some cases. Every single one of these teams were cheating.
@@robertharris9218not every pitcher cheated. About 40% of pitchers spin rates actually increased over the past 4 yrs.
The teams who paid them are just as guilty. Everybody's known about sticky stuff for ages.
Cheated? You go sling a ball as hard as you can with control
@@thebutcher7036 bud I’m not the guy getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play a game that has rules that have to be followed or it’s called cheating. Don’t know if you learned that where or if you went to school but athletes that use things like corked bats to hit. sticky shit to pitch it’s called cheating. Plain and simple. It’s like steroids not allowed. It’s not a question of it should be allowed for better control. If it was a rule change and everyone was allowed to do it then yes not cheating but sorry not the case.
I feel like Scherzer had a right to get upset
Yeah if you think I’m cheating but I’m not and you keep checking me I’d get upset too.
Why wasn't he this angry with his peers that caused this rule implementation in the first place? its not on blue
@@ebscoHOSTpub I’m pretty sure he was pissed with Joe Girardi asking the umps to check him an inning after they had already checked him for the second time during his start.
@@ebscoHOSTpub yeah his anger wasn’t directed at the ump. Girardi was trying to throw scherz off his rythm and that’s why he got mad.
@@-woohoobs-8918 Absolutely he had a right to be upset about that. Joe is an asshole. But the first two times were routine checks and he was acting like a baby. Which is ridiculous because we all know he was cheating. Seems like the only pitchers who threw a tantrum about the checks were cheating. Not a good look.
shohei and giolito are still having an amazing season though
What's with the red screen and strange writing when it looks like your trying to show statics.
Probably a glitch
19:54 and 20:09 the dreaded “media offline”. Trust me I know the struggle, love the content my man keep it up
Why does it happen?
@Juice Or the source file for a clip or image was accidentally deleted
@@xdimensionalmain5228 saphire affect is uninstalled or outdated
I was wonder what the hell was going on
Its an Adobe premier thing. Usually happens most times when you save the project and then come back to it. Adobe sometimes changes its setting by itself too its fucking annoying as shit.
Hey I don’t know if this is intentional or not, but around the 20:00 mark there are a few screens that say “media offline”. Not sure if that is intentional or just a problem with the editing software. Great video though!
This is a common issue with editing software that occurs when you delete or remove an asset that was in the video. For example, he probably had a chart in the video, and the file for that chart was either deleted or corrupted before he exported and uploaded the video
Guess we’ll just have to watch this video twice when the re-upload come around.
Lmao I hate when this happens when I use premier pro.
@@Formulemur yeah that happened to me when I was editing a video in davinci resolve
Idk how ohtanis production decreased he’s still dominating 😂😂
The guy is a hater of Ohtani
He was cheating, but unlike Cole and Glasnow, he learned how to pitch barehanded again
pitchers really dug themselves into a hole by training the entire league to hit illegal superpitches
I’ve never liked baseball and I always found it boring until I found this channel it really changed my perspective on baseball lmao
Always has been
This channel is really good. Haven’t watched baseball since 1998. This makes everything a little More interesting. Still not watching baseball though. Look forward to more videos instead :)
Moreso of a problem with the league itself than the game. It's been pushed to this horrible state where it's not fun to watch, there's less balls in play, and the marketing tends to be towards the old generation, not the youth who would keep the fanbase sustained. All in all a combination of bad factors by the administration, less so the players.
Facts. I played basketball growing up and almost.. almost wish I played baseball lol
@@Dill_doh never to late to learn
Honestly, on the point of touching your hair/neck, that’s one of ways to get your hand a little bit of moisture to mix with the rosin. I haven’t used an illegal substance in a game, but I remember one game where I had to keep doing because my hand was so dry.
Exactly, which is what Scherzer was doing in that stupid game Joe Girardi kept being an ass.
@@ThePastAnalysis The ump can't distinguish between a player reloading on a foreign substance versus going for sweat etc. Any pitcher, coach, or fan who didn't expect to see repeat checks that soon after the rule implementation is either stupid, naive, or misinformed
@@ThePastAnalysis max was indisputably being the spaz
@@lyledeporiss5937 He was checked in the middle of the inning dude. Yea, I get why he was annoyed. Imagine constantly being accused of something and having your focus interrupted because of some asshole opposing manager. Girardi was being an ass and he probably noticed it on the footage after the game.
@@ThePastAnalysis There's no relevance whatsoever to it being in the middle of the inning. It shouldn't be surprising. Players and coaches were told in advance it would happen. I understand Scherzer being frustrated regardless but for anyone else to not understand is just dumb
One year later and MLB is realizing no sticky substance = more hits by pitch because the balls are slick.
“I don’t know how to answer that”
You gotta love Gerrit Cole
Trevor Bauer is in trouble for another reason
you mean like the video stated?
I don't know why Shohei got put on here, he's been great lately pitching
He’s a good dude too, I can’t imagine he’d ever try to cheat.
@@olliemac32 if you take out that one bad start in NY he's actually been better since the crackdown, he has one or two starts a year where he can't grip the ball and in that Yankees game the umpire called a tight strike zone
@@fbistatmajor5918 Maybe he dropped in Shohei for views and likes 👀
@@olliemac32 which is disappointing. BDE makes quality videos and doesn't have to do this. It should've been Gerrit Cole, Trevor Bauer, joe musgrove, and Lucas giolito being featured
@@fbistatmajor5918 hes a major pitcher who has seen a drop in spin after the crackdown started. of course bde would talk about it, he also only talked about it for like 20 seconds at the end of the video
I’m soooo glad that the MLB is finally cracking down on this. We need more action in baseball, not more strikeouts
Because the NBA and NFL are such better products when they catered their games around "bigger scores mean more fans, right? ....RIGHT?! Where is everyone! Look at all the records being broken!" And the fanbases turned further and further away. Nobody likes the chucking 3s NBA. Nobody likes the pansyball protect the QB and WR NFL. Dont wish the same fate on baseball.
We do need more action in baseball. In the form of a pitch clock like a shot clock to move the game along, but not to inflate numbers.
Can you PLEASE do a follow-up stats video on this one! This is/should be the largest narrative in baseball, even larger than the corruption behind the lock-out. Please please please do a follow-up on this after one or 2 months of the current season. Ignore the noise you inevitably received from this. Journalism before pressured content! Thanks for the great video, your channel is awesome!
Spider Tac looks so sticky idk how you can throw a ball with it
You can hear it rip out of the hand apparently.
@@shoban surprised we haven't seen that yet. Figured there might be a bunch of balks because the pitchers don't let go of the ball.
@@shoban remember that ball getting stuck in Yadi's chest plate?
Sometimes the leather gets stuck to their hands
Does anyone remember a few years ago when EVERY pitcher was getting Tommy John surgery? Do you think using the sticky stuff originally had anything to do with it?
Yeah, this is a good point. I really don't know what the issue is when every pitcher is on the same playing field and using the same substance. The substance helps control as well and decreases the chance of balls slipping and hitting the batter. I feel there is a lack of foresight here and if it didn't have the stigma of being a "foreign/illegal substance" that the MLB arbitrarily assigned, it would be a no brainer for the substance to be used for both batter and pitcher safety. The only reason it is deemed as cheating/bad is because the MLB said so. But looking at the big picture I struggle to see how it is actually bad for the game.
@@スバ友5635 actually hitting batters by mistake has risen since the rise in use of sticky substances
I remember last year pitchers were bi#ching about "juiced" balls too
I think it's a combo deal. Pitchers that throw lots of sliders and split finger pitches are the highest casualty because the amount of pressure built up in more of the tendons rather than the skeletal structure. Those pitches are being thrown with more effectiveness and power which will cause more damage than throwing a fastball.
Then you have pitchers quiting cold turkey. Your body gets used to throwing with the substance, or something with a certain amount of friction, then the body has to change and the energy release is completely different to the point of breaking down faster. Think of it like a car. Have a hot tune with a strong transmission, then switch to a weaker or differently geared transmission with the same engine tune you are going to break stuff or wear them down faster.
Huh, so that sneaky old pitcher from the film Major League who used snot as a workaround when the umpire was suspicious was actually 100% accurate.
Yup
"Wow, these great pitchers can't play well without cheating! How unfair!"
Yeah? Well, if you need to cheat, you're no a great pitcher.
I used to train with Vicente Palacios, former big league pitcher, he said he used hair mousse back in the day, he played for the Pittsburgh pirates in the late and early 90's
Used this in high school NGL
Cole and Glasnow both admitted to cheating. One, "it's too hard to grip a baseball with my tiny hands" and the other "I had to change my grip because I can't cheat and then I got injured".
When you quit a substance directly after using it a long time (and, let's be honest, every pitcher on the league has done or does) you can't be the same, and your body can't be the same too. Cole worded it poorly but I see where he comes from - Glasnow's case is fair enough.
It's crazy because Pedro Martinez literally called out how unnatural Glasnow's delivery was. He was hyperextending his elbow every time he threw so obviously his arm would get fucked up.
@@greatdays3584 well then they shouldnt have done it in the first place
Im not an Astros fan (in fact im a Rangers fan) but I do think it would be funny if all the teams who complained about them cheating got caught using substances.
Chill bro…..cheating individually and cheating as a team is a whole different thing…..nothing will compare to the astros…..whole dugout whistling during the game and banging trashcans don’t compare to an ace using a foreign substance…..let’s not get carried away here
Can you do a video on Sean Manea’s no-hitter back in 2018. If you after every pitch he touched the left side of his jersey a lot like he had a substance hidden under it.
Idk why ohtani is in the thumbnail I don’t feel like he is cheating
He's had a drop in spin rate since the crackdown too so it kinda looks like he was.
@@unkledoda420 A drop in spin rate alone doesn’t point to the person using spider tack. It could in many cases be a lot tamer with just a mixture of rosin and sun tan lotion. Stop being part of a base less witch hunt.
@@ThePastAnalysis The only players complaining about the crackdowns are the cheaters
@@raisethejollyroger5891 And the many players who were using tamer stuff like rosin and sun tan lotion, as well as those who were getting harassed by opposing team managers.
@@ThePastAnalysis even the "tamer" cheats are still cheats..
The stuff under the armpit was prolly TigerBalm, it’s like icy hot, it helps with pain/soreness. So, pitchers use it on places where they are sore.
Edit: oh wait, that’s what it was, my bad 😂
I don't get it. Why would you put icy hot..... on your clothing? That would be like a bald guy applying sunscreen to the outside of the hat he's wearing to prevent a sunburn.
@@doseofreality100 might not be talking about the same thing but I’m not sure it was on his clothes, but directly on his armpit
@@doseofreality100 you realize that its somewhat wet and can transfer from your armpit to the shirt right
Never mind sorry, didn't see that the coach put it directly on his shirt
BDE explicitly said that there was no evidence the pitcher even went near his armpit with his hand in that outing. Unless he’s letting the “sticky stuff” drip down to his fingertips from his armpit (lmfao) then no he wasn’t cheating
Great video!! Also a heads up, from the Giolito section later in the video to the end (like 18m markish), when you bring up an overlay attempting to show spin rate or some statistic, it's just a red overlay with multiple langues saying media offline.
Seems to be when you're attempting to do the ticking / counting down effect?
I think it's on purpose
Pitchers did all this complaining about sign stealing and how it costed pitchers money yet pitchers been cheating to get paid for probably the last 5-10 years sad 💯🤣
I hate the excuses for why they need to use sticky stuff. Are they so clueless that they don't understand they're blatantly saying hey if I can't cheat I can't do better.
MLB essentially blessed the use of it before the season started and then changed mid season. Pretty dumb.
MLB should have a standard sticky stuff thats a little better than rosin..like pine tar.
@@1320crusier No they didn't, they sent a memo to all teams before the season started saying they would be taking action this yr about the sticky substance. Players were saying (Cole and Glassnow) that they didn't believe MLB would take action during the season lol I'm sure they did it quickly cause all those record-setting no-hitters were becoming too easy.
@@chi-townmex9346 incorrect, it’s been well documented players were told there’d be no action taken until the end of the season. Bullshit by mlb to save face, look into it.
@@joeriley5099 On March 24 the memo was sent to all 30 teams that MLB will be cracking down. That memo didn't mention when only said (upcoming season), it's on ESPN in an article. So all those pitchers can keep crying about it lol
I’d be curious to see a statistical approach. Quick maths check, Cole’s fastball spin in the month of July (used 2019 when he was peaking) to account for weather and implementation of checks is down -6.8% 2021 vs 2019. Breaking balls spin rate is down -2.4%. He’s threw 2.9% more pitches and one fewer hit. Hitters could be adjusting to the new movement. What would be interesting to see is what it this meets statistical significance. Depending on whether you break this down by pitch type, it’s borderline. Will also be good once we get more data of course.
Oh hi Cranky Yankee
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes Woah Woah Woah thats a lot of words
Aye, Cranky love your stuff
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes And yet they're obviously affected by losing their glue. Don't need a degree in science and math to know that
Why did I have a feeling you’d be here. You always seem to have an eye for interesting and educational videos. I love it.
The Dodgers are caught red handed being avid users of Bauer’s sticky stuff.
Lol second best rotation in baseball even after the ban
Stealing signs is not punishable because all teams do it.
Where was the same phony outrage when these clown pitchers where pitching with teammates who were cheating...The stripping, rolling their eyes, pissed off at umps for checking for substance...thats on you for letting it get to this point. Dont blame the umps or baseball. Cope
It's the same with them saying that it's not fair that they didn't punish Astros enough (which is true) but that doesn't mean we should go lenient on them for cheating, the punishment is where It needs to be, what they need to do is limit the amount of checks an opposing team can call.
@@zkapsh we are finally getting the odd check from managers in over 100 years of failed enforcement and you think it's too much? Get back to me when a manager has the same guy checked twice, or even twice in a game. There isn't any harassment with it.
BDE, you've gotten really good at not repeating yourself throughout the video. Good work, dude. Your uploads are a must-watch right away.
Just realized this vid was 1 year old. Ohtani stayed clean and he finished the 2022 season 15-9 for one of the worst teams in MLB. Aside from numbers, he indeed became even more unhittable in 2022.
Good video. As a Padres fan I noticed how Darvish would go 7 innings. After the checks, he was lucky to go 5 innings.
Couple of graphical errors around the 20:00 mark. Just letting you know for future reference. Great work and professional content as always. Keep it up!
This further cements Degrom as the best pitcher of his era
If he continues this dominance, he could potentially become all time
Too bad he's made of glass
Seriously. If deGrom had used sticky stuff, he probably wouldn't have given up so much as a hit all year. The injuries really suck though.
Im waiting for the day a pitcher accidentally uses too much spider tack and when they throw a pitch mid game it just sticks to their hand.
I remember forgetting my receiver gloves one Time. I felt like I was catching the ball with bricks.
I can only imagine what a change like that would do at a higher level.
Maybe ohtani’s ERA is a bit inflated because of the blow up start he had in New York where he gave up 7 runs in one inning
Yeah, if you remove that start he's pitching to a sub 2 ERA since the rule was put into place. I think he's going to be just fine.
"look I've been cheating for too long to play the game by the rules now"
- Tyler Glasnow
It’s a bit of a grey area, using rosin and sun tan lotion together. Ya’ll act like every case of spin drop proves people were using spider tack.
@@ThePastAnalysis No I don't, I'm acting like Tyler Glassnow, who, admitted he used spider tack cant do his job without cheating anymore. Rosin isn't the issue. Manufactured substances that are being used to manipulate spin & movement are the issue. The ball is adequate with just rosin. pitchers get stat hungry and veer into that grey area to get an edge.
@@ThePastAnalysis if you watch his interview he said he used Rosin and sunscreen for grip tf are you talking abt
@@manny5443 I think you responded to the wrong person. @henry storr was the dimpshit that said Glasnow said he used spider tack. I agree with you. No, he said he only used rosin mixed with sunscreen.
@@ayejaygoez Tyler Glassnow never admitted to using Spider Tack. He openly said he didn't. He was using rosin and sunscreen mixed together.
Wait wait wait… guy complains that now that he cant use illegal substances on his fingers, that this change is so huge that he’s now injuring himself, AND ITS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT?!
Least accountable thing Ive ever seen. Unreal. Guy cheats so much his body is tuned to it, then gets angry when he has to stop cheating.
WOW!!!
To quote the great Pedro Martinez “These guys need to learn to use the rosin bag. I could always get a great grip with sweat and rosin.”
Ngl even if Ohtani can't pitch well, I think he'll be perfectly fine. Ok, he's not a two way player but he can still hit BOMBS and he can probably find somewhere else to play (or just be a dh)
His pitching will be fine. The only bad game he had is against the yankees
Yes those stats are specifically from one 2/3 inn. 7er outing in which he walked a ton (he’s been known to loose command at times). Take the one outing away and he has a 2.36 era
Nah he good, besides the Yankees game he has been very good.
Showtani is definitely a two way player. 🙄
The Ohtani take was pretty bad and extremely superficial tbh. Since MLB started enforcing the ban he’s had 3 really good starts and one absolutely terrible one. He only gave up 3 ER in 19 innings against the Giants, Red Sox, and A’s in the good starts, but couldn’t find the zone against the Yankees and gave up 7 ER in .2 innings in the terrible one.
I think that Blake Snell is cheating, he’s just too good this year
Bruh he’s better than shohei this year, how has he not gotten any recognition?
@@bruhmoment1329 because he hasn't been that good. His away stats are horrid.
@@bruhmoment1329
He is NOT better than Ohtani. What are you smoking?!
Snell - 4.93 ERA 104 K 1.56
Ohtani - 3.21 ERA 95 K 1.16
@@doubledown8229 I think you're missing a joke
@@doubledown8229 buddy, you’re missing the joke
Ozzie Guillén most definitely has TWO World Series rings, not three, and no one seems to have noticed this at the time or since.
Max Scherzer shouldn't be called a cheater on the cover. There's not really any reason to think he used it. There's even a red circle around his hands implying he cheated, that's messed up.
Ohtani's stats is a bit misleading. Hes basically had one bad inning since the check. And 3 extra ER was given up because his reliver gave up double that cleared the base. He had 8k in 6innings plus no ER in his last outting.
I really don't believe you've been using cannadips "ever since" 🤷
Probably has for the cbd. I probably would be using it if they sent me some.
My rule of thumb is that if they don’t mention how long they’ve used it or a personal benefit then it’s bs
I don’t seem to mind it, he reads the ad, he gets some extra dough, he’s happy, the company’s happy, who cares?
I was a pretty good pitcher --- in high school, and I was thinking "Wow, I've only ever touched pine tar a couple times, I bet this new stuff feels awesome!" Major league teams need to just calm down and accept that pitching won't be as dominant anymore.
Apparently the ball the Japanese league uses has a lot more natural tackiness and American pitchers over there love it
"Stared him down and tipped his hat after each one" no he was just applying more spider tack LOL
Meanwhile Jacob deGrom keeps getting better without using foreign substances...
God doesn't need mortal tools like Spidertack.
Degrom had 3 of his worst starts of the season recently. Although I think degrom isn't using it I think he benefitted from it. My theory is because everyone is using it batters were trying to adjust to the high spin rate,so it was difficult to hit degrom's pitches because he had lower spin rate compared to those guys like they are looking for a higher pitch but degrom's isn't as high as they are accustomed to while facing other pitchers. Degrom is pitching just as good but hitters are hitting these past couple of games. I think he will adjust in a few games though. May not finish with era below 1.00 but has a chance to break the era record.
I love how Garrit Cole is just so emotional about his use of substances "It's so hard to grip the ball" 😂
I don't get why don't they just make these substances the norm? If they offer better grip, control and speed it can only make for more intense and high performing games.
Not a baseball fan here so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Trevor Bauer mention the cheating years ago and then said he was just going to start doing it too? Didn't he literally blow the whistle?
Yes, he did.
Bingo. He even did it in one inning with Cleveland to show how much of a difference it can make and I think he like struck out the side
bruh gerit cole in that interview was on 600 ping
💀💀💀 i- uh- well- I dont- uh-
those pitchers taking of their clothes, and shit, are really just displaying their child-like qualities.
Didnt render video fully lol. Good video as always, i watch for your insight and commentary!
eh I dont really think chapman was using sticky stuff, he ripped off his nail on his middle finger on his pitching hand and played through it
Thank you
Too much spider tack on his finger nail?
@1NF3RN0B01 I wouldn't fuck with him because he might put 6-7 gun shots into my garage.
I've had it happen. Hurts pretty bad for several days. You put pressure on it with some tape, it'll be fine.
My favorite part about this lockdown is how some batters who looked like they were about to retire after this year are doing better now
Finger blistering has been a problem for pitchers - which often times place them on the IL for several weeks. To some degree, there should be some foreign substance than can be used as a form of preventive health measures. Pitching under dry conditions especially seem to be the catalyst for the loss of grip. Jorge De La Rosa (Who used to pitch in Colorado) is one example of suffering with this injury multiple times.
That's a good point. Can't really use a pitching glove lol
Something alot of people dont think about, they check the pitcher but not the catcher. He could just as well hide and apply .sticky stuff on the ball as the league dosent check them. Even though the umpires right behind them, they could still however apply some to there shin guards or on there face guard ..etc, just a thought.