My dad had a fun Pete Rose Story. In the Summer of 1975, give or take a year, the Reds came to New York to play the Mets. My dad, from queens was with a group of his friends at the hotel the Reds were staying at. Recognizing Pete, he asked if he can get a autograph. Pete didn't just say no, he flipped him off with a double finger salute, and left the lobby. He couldn't believe a pro athlete would flip off a 15 year old. Edit. I asked him about it again, and he said he remembers seeing Pete leave with 2 women around his arms, so I can see why he was in a hurry.
Pete Rose autographed a baseball and gave it to my Dad on October 2, 1969 that reads "To Jerry Fields From Pete Rose & Thanks". For 53 years starting in April 1966 we had front row Braves seats in front of the visitors batting circle. At the final game of the '69 season Pete was battling for the title with Roberto Clemente and Pete was 0 for 3 and Clemente was 3 for 3, percentage points ahead. My dad took a transistor radio to every game so we could listen to Ernie Johnson and Milo Hamilton. As Pete strolled to the plate, Milo came on the radio and said (knowing my dad had the radio) "If anyone down there has a radio tell Pete that Clemente was 3 for 3 and he needed a hit to win the title". We screamed that to Pete who promptly laid down a bunt and beat it out for an infield hit. After the game Pete came up to us and signed the baseball. Funny ending was my dad thanked him for the ball and said he would really like to get a bat from him to which Pete replied: "$hit, I wouldn't give my mother a bat" and walked off.
@@LogicallyKnot Thanks for your reply: Another funny thing about it is that during an interview about that day, Pete said that the reason he laid down the bunt was because Clete Bowyer, playing third, "winked" at him as if to say for him to lay down a bunt. How would Clete know he needed the hit?
Amazed you haven't done an episode about Sammy Sosa yet. The man is beloved by fans everywhere but utterly despised by both the Cubs and the MLB. Plus he's pink now, so, that's an interesting talking point.
Met Pete a few weeks ago in Tennessee at a card show. Been a Reds fan since a kid in 1985. No doubt he's got issues. What struck me meeting him though was in the may 1 minute speaking to him he talked batting stances the whole time. I had a Griffey Jr. jersey on and he kept talking about how smooth his swing was, that if he could teach one swing it would be Jrs and broke down Jr's hand positioning before swinging. It was honestly pretty cool. At 46 I barely remember him playing but do remember him managing.
I remember him playing and managing. He was one of the greatest. Jr. was as well. His biggest mistake was going to the National League. He should have stayed in the AL and became a DH later in his career. If he had I feel like he would have had a chance to break the home run record…..steroid free.
@@12yearssober they still won a World Series in a sweep in 1990. So you’re most likely right in your assertion since the Braves became the dominant NL team of the 90s instead
I hope you'll do a video on the late great Thurman Munson (7-time AL All-Star catcher who won several awards, including 1970 AL Rookie of the Year and 1976 AL MVP) being shut out of Cooperstown, despite playing 11 years in MLB with a career .290 batting average before his career was cut short by a life-ending plane crash in late 1979. It's understandable banning Charlie Hustle Rose from MLB and Cooperstown for what he did, but it is 100% criminal neglect for leaving out one of the greatest catchers to EVER play the game. Thurman's career batting average is even better than Carlton Fisk's.
Munsons plane crash was close to where I grew up. Outside Canton. Great player. We used to drive by the crash site all the time. Funny thing when I got older I was in special forces and my oldest son is a fighter pilot.
I'm a Yankees fan, but I think because his career was cut short is why he's not in Cooperstown. Plus probably the bar for best hitting catchers(this doesn't include defensive metrics) who's currently in the hall of fame would be like yogi berra(if you want to stick with other Yankees catchers) or someone like Mike Piazza, Pudge(Ivan) Rodriguez, Johnny Bench etc. They had far more home runs and RBIs and better or just about equivalent BAs. I loved Munson and the Yankee teams he played on(I was born in 92 so this is just speaking retrospectively), but he just doesn't have the longevity because of his tragic death. His accolades for all-star, WS/playoff wins, RotY, MVP, and 3x gold Glover are really his largest merit to lean on, but half of those are also team driven awards. He wouldn't have RotY or MVP honors if he'd been playing on the braves or white Sox for example the year he won MVP. He played 11 seasons with only 113 home runs and 701 RBIs. That's barely 10 HRs and 70 RBIs a season. Hardly Cooperstown worthy. Fisk played for more than twice as many years, has more than 3x as many home runs, almost double the RBIs and about twice as many hits. I could go on, but the combo of before Piazza holding the record for career HRs as a catcher means he hit for power, and also has more than twice as many plate appearances shows the difference in BA isn't quite statically significant enough to use that as metric for Thurman Munson's Cooperstown appeal. Again, Munson's main attributes are his defensive metrics, which someone like Buster Posey for example now shatters, and Munson's playoff accolades. If we could extrapolate his first 11 seasons into his next 11 seasons, he still would only be on the cusp of entering to being Cooperstown worthy. Really, being a catcher in the MLB is probably the hardest position to get into the hall of fame with because unfortunately defensive metrics, unless supremely outlandish, aren't held in as high regard as offensive metrics. And unfortunately, playing catcher in MLB is a defensive first position. That's why Piazza still holds the record for most career HRs by a catcher at 399. Bonds almost doubled this number, granted he played 6 more seasons because he played OF, but that's also another issue with catchers... like Buster Posey is a great example, longevity is incredibly hard to come by. Injuries derailed Posey's career. I think a better equivalent to Munson would be someone like Yadier Molina. Was a great hitter, played for like 19 seasons(which is basically unheard of for catchers), but wasn't a huge home run hitter and was known for his defensive prowess. But even Yadier is borderline HoF worthy, though his defensive metrics should push him in. For whatever reason, defensive metrics are just a harder sell, and the catchers position is a defense first position.
Thurman was a good catcher and even better hitter in my opinion... great player...from Canton Ohio...he had a bad relationship with the press...not his fault but I don't know if that is hurting his hall of fame chances...isint it the writers that determine this?
Everything they say about Rose is completely true. But in Philadelphia after 97 years of existence, the Phillies, the team with the most losses in MLB with over 11,000, finally won their first World Series. The man probably most responsible for this win was Pete Rose. The play he made in Game 6 which won the Phillies the Series was the play before the last out when Pete made an unbelievable hustle catch of a foul ball that was muffed by catcher Bob Boone.
Maybe, but the three black players seem like the least racist on that team; they accepted him when no one else would. That said, of all the things he's been accused of over the years, being racist is not among them.
@@DNSKansas that's arguable. Out of all his misdoings you can only say 1 or maybe 2 situations that should be looked at for being in the HoF... come down off your high horse.
As a lifelong baseball fan, I can only appreciate the way Pete played the game. He played hard as if every game was his last, and he was one of the best to every do it. As for the collision with Fosse, don't ever block the plate without having the ball.. As for Harrelson, all runners come into 2nd base hard to avoid a double play he should have done a better job of getting out of the way after throwing the ball to first. Yes, Rose is flawed as a human being, but then again none of us are perfect. His play on the baseball field deserves to be recognized and celebrated in the hall of fame period.
His accomplishments are celebrated in the hall of fame. As are Barry Bond's home run records, Roger Maris's 61 home run season and many other records set by players that aren't actually in the hall.
@@rancidcrawfish Means no one played the game day in and day out with his level of passion and intensity. If you were old enough to have seen him play you would understand.
You shouldn't do that move even if that game did have an effect... I never understood baseball fans like you who always tried to justify this kinda behavior if it was for an important game 🤦♂️
I saw Pete once at a memorabilia store at the Forum Shops at Caesar’s Palace Las Vegas. I yelled out “Pete!” from outside the store, since I was only a teenager without any money to get into the store. I still managed to catch his attention, and he immediately looked my way and made eye contact with me. The only thing I could yell at that star-struck moment was “Hall of Fame, Pete!” with a thumbs-up. Pete responded with a wink and his own 👍🏼 Such a small moment has resonated with me to this day.
@@ChainEffectPvP I can’t recall the exact date, but if I were to guess, it would be between 2000 and 2006. EDIT: if I recall correctly, that was during a Vegas trip where I had also gone to the Grand Canyon, so most likely it was 2003.
He must have been there for years. I lived in Las Vegas from 2009-2011 and remember seeing him sitting in there several times. Many times he was all alone with no one around, kind of sad actually. I went in once and had a conversation about the Big Red Machine. I was a huge fan like so many others as a kid growing up in the 70's and watching them on the "Game of the Week" with Joe Garagiola. When I was a kid my parents took me to San Diego to see them play the Padres. I waited around after the game by the team bus to see if I could get his and Johnny Bench's autograph. He came out wearing a big bow tie. He definitely had personality.
The story I heard was from Spring Training 1962, Reds vs Yankees. Rose was playing like a man possessed by the demons of baseball - running to first after a walk, for example - while those old dynastic Yankees were amused by this fiery young rookie. Then Mickey Mantle - The ol' Commerce Comet himself - quipped: _"Get a load of Charlie Hustle over there, trying to make us all look bad."_
Rose was my favorite player when I was growing up. He personified baseball for me. I can understand the admiration so many people have for him. But as a person, he's not a role model at all. Believe it or not, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when I heard a fan tell of a story of an encounter with Pete where the fan said he didn't want to buy an autograph, he just wanted to shake Rose's hand. Pete said he would do it...for 5 bucks.
U never heard of the saying "never meet your heros"?.. And by the way, most famous people get bothered constantly everywhere they go. U cant always expect people to be in the same mood ur In..
Also, while I was never to the level Pete was, I've been addicted to gambling. It wasn't fun and I lost a lot of money. I understand the stigma of not admitting to gambling. Addiction in general can really make you hit rock bottom.
True Pete Rose story for any who might appreciate it. At major sportscard/memorabalia expo in San Francisco, maybe 2001-ish. Pete's got a small table in the back, with a couple of hot spokesmodels. The show is winding down, there's not a lot of people around, so I waddle over to talk. Me: "Hey Pete Rose, you were a helluva ballplayer." Pete beams a smile. I'm not asking him for anything. I wasn't an autograph hound then and didn't have anything for him to sign. Didn't even know he'd be there! I continue: Me: "But I gotta be honest.... when I sent to the stadium, every time you came up I'd boo as loud as my little lungs could!" Pete's beaming smile drops to look of being sad and stunned. I continue: Me: "Because I grew up in New Jersey, and I was a Mets fan. And I never forgave you for beating up poor Buddy Harrelson in the '73 playoffs!" We both laugh pretty hard. Pete: "Oh, c'mon man! You guys won that series anyway!" Me: "Yeah, I know. I'm just teasing you a bit. And I want to tell you, you should be in the Hall. Any real fan knows it." Pete: "Thank you, I appreciate that." Some people have written here of unpleasant encounters in public with him, but I found him easygoing and warm. True story, and my honestly true opinion. The HOF is too sanctimonious about this. There are a lot worse guys in pro sports, and if the Hall is really about great play, he should be there, warts and all.
And politicize these heavily all while trying to control how he edits them? No thanks, I'd rather this stay on TH-cam with our guys freedom of speech and opinion. I get the allure but the day of thinking something being on TV is for the better is far gone.
Just take Ari Shaffirs " This is Not Happening" that he created by himself and chose the best stories from comedians until Comedy Central basically fired him from his own idea and gave the host to Ron something amd it is defunct now because the stories ended up all being politicized somehow even though they were suppose to be these amazing stories about the life behind the mic and daily life on the road of a comedian. Main TV is 90% trash now all run by 3 parent companies.
Never because he raped a 14 year old girl and sex trafficked multiple other minor girls across State lines for sex in the early to mid 70s. He admitted it saying “ that was 50 years ago Babe, who cares!”
One year after Rose's ban, another longtime #14 came to Cincy, & won them a WS. That team went wire to wire that season. One would have to wonder what Pete was doing to that team before Lou got there.
True after 'sweet' Lou Pinella took over the team the 1990 reds led the division wire to wire, the entire season in first place, buried the Pittsburgh Pirates in six games, the crucial sixth game embarrassing the Pirates with a one-hitter, and destroyed the Oakland A's, defending WS champions in four games straight.
I met Pete Rose once in Boca where he had that Ballpark Cafe and arcade. It was a cool experience. Aside from the Gambling scandal, I never really knew about his previous controversies, but I do know about his WWE appearances. Love him or hate him, he was the "bad boy" of the MLB and lives the life of a rock star with drugs and scandals left and right.
First of all, Hank Aaron is the greatest player the game has ever seen. Did you know that if you take away every homerun that Hammerin' Hank ever hit, he still has over 3000 hits? Best ever.... period. And oh yeah,... Go Braves!
Love Pete Rose. Met him in Vegas. Asked him for an autograph, told me he wouldn't charge me for the autograph but it was $50 to use his permanent marker hahaha. He signed a poker chip for me haha
The Astros literally cheated to a championship. Not one player on that team banned. Barry Bonds juiced to a batting record. No ban. Pete Rose is a crappy gambler. Banned for life.
the funny thing is WWE has an entire celebrity wing in their "hall of fame" and he's one of the *more* deserving picks there lol, at least he was on some of the biggest shows during their hottest business period ever BTW, the Wrestlemania in '98 (Rose's first appearance) had a running theme of disgraced celebrities. Besides Charlie Hustle you also had Gennifer Flowers as a guest interviewer, and Mike Tyson as a special referee in the main event...
I hated him when he beat my favorite teams, but at the same time respected his talent and hustle and would have loved for him to be on my team. He should be in the Hall of Fame.
@@danapaul3216 I disagree, the more that comes out about the guy…the more of a degenerate he becomes. Not everyone in the HOF is a saint but Pete would lower the bar significantly. And this is coming from a guy that as a kid patterned his baseball play after Charlie Hustle.
@@johnbuckley8724 if that’s the case Ty Cobb was hated by his teammates and was a racist and injured players on the field yet he is in the hall of fame
He isn't the last player manager in the history of baseball, Major League Baseball, but not Baseball. Motonobu Tanishige was a Player-Manager as recently as 2015, because he was trying to break the NPB record for games played, which he did.
Good catch. Seeing as Rose was the last player-manager in MLB really speaks volumes on how impressive it is to be a player-manager in the first place, let alone be a catcher like Tanishige and Furuta.
Sam Rice (longtime Senators outfielder and Hofer.) Had an interesting history (by all rights as a good person though). When he went to a baseball tryout, a tornado hit his home killing his parent, 3 siblings, his young wife and 1 I think he had 2 young children. All died. He later remarried, and his 2nd wife didnt know for a couple of decades until a reporter mentioned it. (Probably was too traumatic to bring up for him, i imagine)
@@demonkingbadger6689 man that’s horrible I can’t imagine the pain of his whole family dead in one day I don’t think I’d be able to remarry tbh I’d be mortified
The All Star game used to determine home field advantage for the WS and the winners share was far largwr than the losers.He absolutely should have barreled Fosse.Universally considered one of the best plays in all sports history.
@@rockvocalist7007 Yep, the All-Star Game was about who was better, the American League or the National League, and at the time, there was no interleague play. A team from the NL would play an AL team like there is in the regular season. Before that, it was the only way to happen in the All-Star Game or the WS. This shows that the players and the teams played more aggressively because of the bragging rights. The All-Star Game is pointless nowadays because AL teams and NL teams still play outside the All-Star Game and the World Series. The All-Star Game winner does not get home-field advantage in the WS, but instead, that home-field advantage goes to the WS team with the best record that season. So what is the point of the Game then, when Baseball's best can play each other besides the game that should have decided home-field advantage in the WS. To me, if you are going to do it, make it universal DH in both leagues, have the All-Star Game be for home-field advantage for the WS. Remove interleague games, where the games matter more. To make the game faster, initiate a pitch clock.
@@rockvocalist7007 The all star game didn't determine home field advantage when Rose was playing. That experiment came after Rose retired and they got rid of it because everyone saw it as unfair to the WS team that had a better record.
Mlb made an example of pete rose in 1989. They did not do anything such as that to the Houston Astros for cheating in the world series. (Violating the integrity of the game) to much money involved. Different times.
My coach met pete rose at crackerbarrel once and said that you should always play every game like it's the last you will ever play. Since then I have used that and and my performance (already good) increased.
A 7000 dollar bonus in 1962 is about 65000 dollars today. Seems like he could have afforded a decent car and maybe some rent. My parents bought a pretty nice house in 1964 for 12k on Staten Island in NYC.
Good video, I think lots of people need to see this video because it seems most fans don’t know how much trouble he has gotten into during his life and that he actually agreed to his ban. People really think that all he did was bet on a few games.
I personally think his betting illness is why he left the Reds & signed with the Phillies. I remember him bragging that contract made him the highest paid player in baseball at the time. He probably needed that money to make up his gambling losses.
@@Caseytify When he was a free agent, some offers included racehorses as part of the contract...everyone knew he had a gambling problem, they just didn't know he would be betting on baseball in a few years' time
ngl i was super interested in watching this after i got off work (from a casino) and your sponsor gave me flashbacks to 45 minutes ago and now i wanna go home whilst sitting in my home....there is no escape.
Pete Rose was never baseball's best player. He wasn't even the best player on his team. Overall Morgan/Bench were better. And in certain seasons Perez/Foster were also better. And while he was indeed a very famous baseball player, to be the "SELF-PROCLAIMED MOST FAMOUS WHITE ATHLETE IN THE WORLD" doesn't mean much. One can SELF PROCLAIM anything about oneself that one wants. That doesn't automatically make it true.. As for him being the MOST BEOVED PLAYER IN BASEBALL, I don't know about that. He was a very devisive player. A lot of fans liked him. And a lot of fans couldn't stand him. But I would say that it's true that few people were neutral about him. However, if you just go by the numbers he does belong in the HOF. And should have been a 1st ballot HOF-er.
Joe Morgan is fascinating to me - one of the best 2nd basemen of all time, has an argument as THE greatest, but a player only analytics could fully appreciate. And yet he became most (in)famous to fans of more recent generations for his anti-analytics rants. 100% agree with you on him & Bench being the MVPs of the Big Red Machine! And though not on Rose's level, don't forget Ken Griffey Sr. either...he's probably on the level just below the Hall of Fame.
@@joshthefunkdoc Uh, you realize Joe Morgan won two MVPs, right? How could he be underrated by the anti-analytics crowd when he won two MVPs in an era with almost no analytics
Bet on your own team to lose while you're playing and managing them: unforgivable.... Rose is in the top ten players of all-time, but should never be reinstated or elected to the hall of fame.
@@TheJer1963 Doesn't matter, just betting on baseball alone creates a huge conflict of interest. And also we have nothing that says he did NOT bet on his team to lose. Just his word.
I look at it like this. If he was betting his team everyday and his team was eliminated late in the season and he was playing call ups or bench players there’s no way he doesn’t bet on his team to lose. He’d be burning money otherwise.
Blame Pete. He gambled on games he was involved in. Not me, not the voters, not the commissioner, not the media, etc. It's all Pete. If he didn't gamble on games he was involved in, he'd be in the HOF. He would've been on the first ballot
Unless it's a situation like a Chris Benoit, you shouldn't get barred from the HOF They still celebrate him on the field, invite him for broadcasts, and even more, it's clear he's not taboo to anyone but the snobs at the top
In a Pat Mccafee podcast i watched not that long ago, he was talking about how ALOT of NFL players take adderall before games. N athletes use it alot more than you would think
I’m from the same town as Ray Fosse and he’s a big deal here, such a big deal that we named our park after him, Pete Rose is hated in Marion bc he practically ruined Ray Fosse’s career in a game that didn’t even matter. (He also looks like Bruce banner from the 70’s Hulk show)
0:05 not true. Ichiro Suzuki has the most hits in baseball history Pete Rose does have the most hits in Major League Baseball history, but Ichiro Suzuki played some of his career in MLB and some in Japan for the NPB. If you add together his two totals, he has more hits than Pete Rose. Ichiro has 4,367 vs. Rose’s 4,256.
I can't see Pete Rose as the best player in the history of the game, that would take away the achievements of players that in my opinion did more to promote baseball than bring it down. Glad he will never be in the baseball Hall of Fame. I wish the League would start banning other players for their cheating and use of prohibited substances.
I'm from close to Cincinnati myself - Rose made POOR choices, and he's still paying for them, but this is a bias hit piece full of some compliments covered with facts, half-truths, and LIES.
@@maxxdahl6062 Sorry - 8 months now since my message, and to those thinking you have to be born or from Cincy, that's hogwash. Still, if that's supposed to be some decoded right to opine, I was born in Cincy, and from a small town @ 40 miles away - Not that I haven't lived there in a long time, mind you. Again, 8 mos since I sent this - I don't have time to go over this garbage right now. I have work that counts for now, not 33 years ago. Mr. Rose FOULED up his own post-baseball ties, but I DON'T believe the bat corking in 1984 by some obscure music star wanna-bee over 35 years after the fact, for one. I'll need downtime to address this, and I'm not even close. That said, you can believe Rose murdered JFK and kidnapped the Lindbergh Baby all you want. Have a good day.
Love the channel and I love your content and I know it's just to draw attention, but there is no era when pete rose was the best player. Johnny Bench was the best player on that team, although I would probably take Rose second after Bench. He was the best ever at the thing he is known for, racking up hits over a long career. Certainly nobody better at that.
A full breakdown of his career in less than 30 minutes, Pete Rose would appreciate that kind of hustle.
This comment is so underrated 😂
Ol TH-cam hustle, they call him
please please … there is like 100 players that deserve that
Yeah definitely great player. But thai Charley Hustle moniker suited him because he was definitely a hustler
He ruined Ray Fosse's career. Cooperstown doesn't need Charlie Hustle...the dirtiest player in the game.
My dad had a fun Pete Rose Story. In the Summer of 1975, give or take a year, the Reds came to New York to play the Mets. My dad, from queens was with a group of his friends at the hotel the Reds were staying at. Recognizing Pete, he asked if he can get a autograph. Pete didn't just say no, he flipped him off with a double finger salute, and left the lobby. He couldn't believe a pro athlete would flip off a 15 year old.
Edit. I asked him about it again, and he said he remembers seeing Pete leave with 2 women around his arms, so I can see why he was in a hurry.
Sounds very Jose Canseco-like
Ur dad and his friends were 15 year olds with a hotel room? Lol
@@GeneralBuckNaked back then you hung out outside your house.
Pete's always been trash
@Mitch Qumstein
Is your name pronounced "Cum-stain" genius ?
Pete Rose autographed a baseball and gave it to my Dad on October 2, 1969 that reads "To Jerry Fields From Pete Rose & Thanks". For 53 years starting in April 1966 we had front row Braves seats in front of the visitors batting circle. At the final game of the '69 season Pete was battling for the title with Roberto Clemente and Pete was 0 for 3 and Clemente was 3 for 3, percentage points ahead. My dad took a transistor radio to every game so we could listen to Ernie Johnson and Milo Hamilton.
As Pete strolled to the plate, Milo came on the radio and said (knowing my dad had the radio) "If anyone down there has a radio tell Pete that Clemente was 3 for 3 and he needed a hit to win the title". We screamed that to Pete who promptly laid down a bunt and beat it out for an infield hit. After the game Pete came up to us and signed the baseball. Funny ending was my dad thanked him for the ball and said he would really like to get a bat from him to which Pete replied: "$hit, I wouldn't give my mother a bat" and walked off.
W story
Holy shit man, that's awesome 😂 I could definitely see Pete saying something like that. What a boss?
@@LogicallyKnot Thanks for your reply: Another funny thing about it is that during an interview about that day, Pete said that the reason he laid down the bunt was because Clete Bowyer, playing third, "winked" at him as if to say for him to lay down a bunt. How would Clete know he needed the hit?
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Perhaps they had a radio in the dugout. Or he heard you too 😂
Ha! Funny story.
Really had a casino as his sponsor 💀
Lmao thought the same
Which is no different from MLB being sponsored by casinos and gambling sites.
Amazed you haven't done an episode about Sammy Sosa yet. The man is beloved by fans everywhere but utterly despised by both the Cubs and the MLB. Plus he's pink now, so, that's an interesting talking point.
Sammy the steroid king.
Met Pete a few weeks ago in Tennessee at a card show. Been a Reds fan since a kid in 1985. No doubt he's got issues. What struck me meeting him though was in the may 1 minute speaking to him he talked batting stances the whole time. I had a Griffey Jr. jersey on and he kept talking about how smooth his swing was, that if he could teach one swing it would be Jrs and broke down Jr's hand positioning before swinging. It was honestly pretty cool. At 46 I barely remember him playing but do remember him managing.
You can say a lot of bad things about Rose, and he has done a lot of bad things, but without question the man knows the game of baseball.
I remember him playing and managing. He was one of the greatest. Jr. was as well. His biggest mistake was going to the National League. He should have stayed in the AL and became a DH later in his career. If he had I feel like he would have had a chance to break the home run record…..steroid free.
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He definitely does. Had he not screwed up the Reds would have dominated the early 90’s
@@12yearssober they still won a World Series in a sweep in 1990. So you’re most likely right in your assertion since the Braves became the dominant NL team of the 90s instead
fellow 80’s Cinci fan here! 🤙🏼
[After covering 47 fascinating years] "And this is where Pete Rose's life got interesting."
I chuckled at that one
I hope you'll do a video on the late great Thurman Munson (7-time AL All-Star catcher who won several awards, including 1970 AL Rookie of the Year and 1976 AL MVP) being shut out of Cooperstown, despite playing 11 years in MLB with a career .290 batting average before his career was cut short by a life-ending plane crash in late 1979. It's understandable banning Charlie Hustle Rose from MLB and Cooperstown for what he did, but it is 100% criminal neglect for leaving out one of the greatest catchers to EVER play the game. Thurman's career batting average is even better than Carlton Fisk's.
There’s a great Carlton Fisk vs Thurman Munson beef episode by Secret Base
Munsons plane crash was close to where I grew up. Outside Canton. Great player. We used to drive by the crash site all the time. Funny thing when I got older I was in special forces and my oldest son is a fighter pilot.
I'm not even a Yankees fan and I argue Thurman belongs in Cooperstown
I'm a Yankees fan, but I think because his career was cut short is why he's not in Cooperstown. Plus probably the bar for best hitting catchers(this doesn't include defensive metrics) who's currently in the hall of fame would be like yogi berra(if you want to stick with other Yankees catchers) or someone like Mike Piazza, Pudge(Ivan) Rodriguez, Johnny Bench etc. They had far more home runs and RBIs and better or just about equivalent BAs. I loved Munson and the Yankee teams he played on(I was born in 92 so this is just speaking retrospectively), but he just doesn't have the longevity because of his tragic death. His accolades for all-star, WS/playoff wins, RotY, MVP, and 3x gold Glover are really his largest merit to lean on, but half of those are also team driven awards. He wouldn't have RotY or MVP honors if he'd been playing on the braves or white Sox for example the year he won MVP. He played 11 seasons with only 113 home runs and 701 RBIs. That's barely 10 HRs and 70 RBIs a season. Hardly Cooperstown worthy. Fisk played for more than twice as many years, has more than 3x as many home runs, almost double the RBIs and about twice as many hits. I could go on, but the combo of before Piazza holding the record for career HRs as a catcher means he hit for power, and also has more than twice as many plate appearances shows the difference in BA isn't quite statically significant enough to use that as metric for Thurman Munson's Cooperstown appeal. Again, Munson's main attributes are his defensive metrics, which someone like Buster Posey for example now shatters, and Munson's playoff accolades. If we could extrapolate his first 11 seasons into his next 11 seasons, he still would only be on the cusp of entering to being Cooperstown worthy. Really, being a catcher in the MLB is probably the hardest position to get into the hall of fame with because unfortunately defensive metrics, unless supremely outlandish, aren't held in as high regard as offensive metrics. And unfortunately, playing catcher in MLB is a defensive first position. That's why Piazza still holds the record for most career HRs by a catcher at 399. Bonds almost doubled this number, granted he played 6 more seasons because he played OF, but that's also another issue with catchers... like Buster Posey is a great example, longevity is incredibly hard to come by. Injuries derailed Posey's career.
I think a better equivalent to Munson would be someone like Yadier Molina. Was a great hitter, played for like 19 seasons(which is basically unheard of for catchers), but wasn't a huge home run hitter and was known for his defensive prowess. But even Yadier is borderline HoF worthy, though his defensive metrics should push him in. For whatever reason, defensive metrics are just a harder sell, and the catchers position is a defense first position.
Thurman was a good catcher and even better hitter in my opinion... great player...from Canton Ohio...he had a bad relationship with the press...not his fault but I don't know if that is hurting his hall of fame chances...isint it the writers that determine this?
Everything they say about Rose is completely true. But in Philadelphia after 97 years of existence, the Phillies, the team with the most losses in MLB with over 11,000, finally won their first World Series. The man probably most responsible for this win was Pete Rose. The play he made in Game 6 which won the Phillies the Series was the play before the last out when Pete made an unbelievable hustle catch of a foul ball that was muffed by catcher Bob Boone.
So basically his rookie year Pete Rose was one of the least racist guys on his team
Maybe, but the three black players seem like the least racist on that team; they accepted him when no one else would. That said, of all the things he's been accused of over the years, being racist is not among them.
Veterans don't like players who go way out of their way to perform. Makes them look bad. They don't want their standards raised.
Let nobody ever say that Robert Ybarra cannot find the silver lining in a story. Well done Sir!
Same! Between this channel and Jomboy I am loving baseball content on TH-cam haha
@@someperson8151 yes but you gotta admit that they were racist and nothing else
"in an insane twist, Giamatti died."
Who could've seen that one coming?
Giamatti was too decent a man to be Commissioner, tbf
Better for him to go while his reputation remained intact
No one. Not even I.
Then the earthquake.
God
The Grim Reaper, I guess?
Pete Rose is his own worst enemy..
So true. No one has done more to keep him out of the Hall than he has.
Peter Edward Rose thought he was above the law and above the rules of Major League Baseball. He deserves the purgatory he created for himself.
@@DNSKansas that's arguable. Out of all his misdoings you can only say 1 or maybe 2 situations that should be looked at for being in the HoF... come down off your high horse.
@@EtTuSilver Yes... yes we are.
Deserves to be in the HOF regardless
As a lifelong baseball fan, I can only appreciate the way Pete played the game. He played hard as if every game was his last, and he was one of the best to every do it. As for the collision with Fosse, don't ever block the plate without having the ball.. As for Harrelson, all runners come into 2nd base hard to avoid a double play he should have done a better job of getting out of the way after throwing the ball to first. Yes, Rose is flawed as a human being, but then again none of us are perfect. His play on the baseball field deserves to be recognized and celebrated in the hall of fame period.
I don't understand why u stand infront of the plate unless u know that your gonna get ran over.
His accomplishments are celebrated in the hall of fame. As are Barry Bond's home run records, Roger Maris's 61 home run season and many other records set by players that aren't actually in the hall.
@@JeromeAnselmo-c5e
FU_K MLB "Hall of Hypocrites" and every baseball commissioner since Landis!
Lmao what does being a lifelong baseball fan have to do with it
@@rancidcrawfish Means no one played the game day in and day out with his level of passion and intensity. If you were old enough to have seen him play you would understand.
Literally just made a pizza and had nothing to watch. Thanks for coming clutch baseball doesn't exist man.
Epic
Baseball may not exist, but clutch hitting like this certainly does!
@@staciemohler4624 Epic for the win
Injuring another player in the all star game (especially when the game didn’t affect anything) was a shitty thing to do
You shouldn't do that move even if that game did have an effect... I never understood baseball fans like you who always tried to justify this kinda behavior if it was for an important game 🤦♂️
Go back to your favorite game tiddlywinks cause you know nothing about baseball!
I saw Pete once at a memorabilia store at the Forum Shops at Caesar’s Palace Las Vegas. I yelled out “Pete!” from outside the store, since I was only a teenager without any money to get into the store. I still managed to catch his attention, and he immediately looked my way and made eye contact with me. The only thing I could yell at that star-struck moment was “Hall of Fame, Pete!” with a thumbs-up. Pete responded with a wink and his own 👍🏼 Such a small moment has resonated with me to this day.
How long ago was that?
@@ChainEffectPvP I can’t recall the exact date, but if I were to guess, it would be between 2000 and 2006.
EDIT: if I recall correctly, that was during a Vegas trip where I had also gone to the Grand Canyon, so most likely it was 2003.
He must have been there for years. I lived in Las Vegas from 2009-2011 and remember seeing him sitting in there several times. Many times he was all alone with no one around, kind of sad actually. I went in once and had a conversation about the Big Red Machine. I was a huge fan like so many others as a kid growing up in the 70's and watching them on the "Game of the Week" with Joe Garagiola. When I was a kid my parents took me to San Diego to see them play the Padres. I waited around after the game by the team bus to see if I could get his and Johnny Bench's autograph. He came out wearing a big bow tie. He definitely had personality.
@@peetfj he was there to gamble. He was in a casino. Cell phone.
That sponsor is perfect for this topic.
The irony was on point
I caught that too lolol
I heard baseball doesn't exist guy bets on if his videos do well or not. Just sayin'
@@1987higgs only on if they do well, he isn’t a Black Sock
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The story I heard was from Spring Training 1962, Reds vs Yankees.
Rose was playing like a man possessed by the demons of baseball - running to first after a walk, for example - while those old dynastic Yankees were amused by this fiery young rookie. Then Mickey Mantle - The ol' Commerce Comet himself - quipped: _"Get a load of Charlie Hustle over there, trying to make us all look bad."_
Not 1962.
Rose was my favorite player when I was growing up. He personified baseball for me. I can understand the admiration so many people have for him. But as a person, he's not a role model at all. Believe it or not, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when I heard a fan tell of a story of an encounter with Pete where the fan said he didn't want to buy an autograph, he just wanted to shake Rose's hand. Pete said he would do it...for 5 bucks.
You can't chastise the guy for being a natural hustler.
@@boogityhoo7452 yes you can.
@@gregpenismith1248 well true, you can but whatever.
You can admire him for playing hard, but he did that more for himself than the team and fans.
U never heard of the saying "never meet your heros"?.. And by the way, most famous people get bothered constantly everywhere they go. U cant always expect people to be in the same mood ur In..
Pete Rose is baseball’s GOAT, end of story. No one will ever approach his stats
Also, while I was never to the level Pete was, I've been addicted to gambling. It wasn't fun and I lost a lot of money. I understand the stigma of not admitting to gambling. Addiction in general can really make you hit rock bottom.
Gotta know when to stop man. I'm a gambler too but I never bet the bill money and I get up when I'm ahead. Greed will get you everytime.
True Pete Rose story for any who might appreciate it. At major sportscard/memorabalia expo in San Francisco, maybe 2001-ish. Pete's got a small table in the back, with a couple of hot spokesmodels. The show is winding down, there's not a lot of people around, so I waddle over to talk.
Me: "Hey Pete Rose, you were a helluva ballplayer."
Pete beams a smile. I'm not asking him for anything. I wasn't an autograph hound then and didn't have anything for him to sign. Didn't even know he'd be there! I continue:
Me: "But I gotta be honest.... when I sent to the stadium, every time you came up I'd boo as loud as my little lungs could!"
Pete's beaming smile drops to look of being sad and stunned. I continue:
Me: "Because I grew up in New Jersey, and I was a Mets fan. And I never forgave you for beating up poor Buddy Harrelson in the '73 playoffs!" We both laugh pretty hard.
Pete: "Oh, c'mon man! You guys won that series anyway!"
Me: "Yeah, I know. I'm just teasing you a bit. And I want to tell you, you should be in the Hall. Any real fan knows it."
Pete: "Thank you, I appreciate that."
Some people have written here of unpleasant encounters in public with him, but I found him easygoing and warm. True story, and my honestly true opinion. The HOF is too sanctimonious about this. There are a lot worse guys in pro sports, and if the Hall is really about great play, he should be there, warts and all.
When will ESPN just give this man his own segment for these documentaries. Quality stuff right here.
And politicize these heavily all while trying to control how he edits them? No thanks, I'd rather this stay on TH-cam with our guys freedom of speech and opinion. I get the allure but the day of thinking something being on TV is for the better is far gone.
Just take Ari Shaffirs " This is Not Happening" that he created by himself and chose the best stories from comedians until Comedy Central basically fired him from his own idea and gave the host to Ron something amd it is defunct now because the stories ended up all being politicized somehow even though they were suppose to be these amazing stories about the life behind the mic and daily life on the road of a comedian. Main TV is 90% trash now all run by 3 parent companies.
Why would he want that? ESPN isn't very good to their staff except for the highest paid ones, and they'll neuter all his creativity.
Along with Jomboy.
Never because he raped a 14 year old girl and sex trafficked multiple other minor girls across State lines for sex in the early to mid 70s. He admitted it saying “ that was 50 years ago Babe, who cares!”
A casino game ad on a Pete Rose video? That's some top tier memery.
One year after Rose's ban, another longtime #14 came to Cincy, & won them a WS. That team went wire to wire that season. One would have to wonder what Pete was doing to that team before Lou got there.
He was giving them the positive reinforcement that they needed to gel as a team.
He built that team
True after 'sweet' Lou Pinella took over the team the 1990 reds led the division wire to wire, the entire season in first place, buried the Pittsburgh Pirates in six games, the crucial sixth game embarrassing the Pirates with a one-hitter, and destroyed the Oakland A's, defending WS champions in four games straight.
They would've won the pennant and the Series either way. Rose built the team, Rose made it possible.
He was tanking games to pay back his bookies.
I met Pete Rose once in Boca where he had that Ballpark Cafe and arcade. It was a cool experience.
Aside from the Gambling scandal, I never really knew about his previous controversies, but I do know about his WWE appearances.
Love him or hate him, he was the "bad boy" of the MLB and lives the life of a rock star with drugs and scandals left and right.
“Having a relationship with a minor”
Me:What’s wrong with him having a relationship with a minor leagu- OHHHH
I don’t understand what he did wrong 😈😈
Best baseball channel period. Your mini documentaries are head and shoulders above all else.
First of all, Hank Aaron is the greatest player the game has ever seen. Did you know that if you take away every homerun that Hammerin' Hank ever hit, he still has over 3000 hits? Best ever.... period. And oh yeah,... Go Braves!
It wasn’t Ford that gave him his nickname it was Mickey Mantle I believe
I LOVE that guests still have to pay for dinner. Lol
Makes sense. They're paying to am experience with him. If you can pay for his time, dinner better be included for him too.
Love Pete Rose. Met him in Vegas. Asked him for an autograph, told me he wouldn't charge me for the autograph but it was $50 to use his permanent marker hahaha. He signed a poker chip for me haha
Is nobody gonna point out the irony of a casino sponsoring a video about Pete Rose???
My dad had him as a gym teacher for a little less than a year because Pete had to do community work
Can you do a video on the black sox scandal
Charlie Hustle was one hell of a ball player.
I remember seeing a DeLorean and a Pinto in a car museum once. The Baseball Hall of Fame is a museum. Pete Rose should be in it.
The Astros literally cheated to a championship. Not one player on that team banned. Barry Bonds juiced to a batting record. No ban. Pete Rose is a crappy gambler. Banned for life.
Yeah. Definitely not fair. Astros shoudlve face much more. Same with bonds. Or unban Pete
He agreed to the lifetime ban to end the investigation into his gambling
He just played for the wrong teams. If he played played for one of the NY teams or the Dodgers it would've been forgotten.
I’m glad you recognized his amazing WWF run
The important facts that we need to know
WWF.....World's Wealthiest Fakers!
@yossarian Idk.....are they???
Wrestling is strictly ENTERTAINMENT, nothing more!
the funny thing is WWE has an entire celebrity wing in their "hall of fame" and he's one of the *more* deserving picks there lol, at least he was on some of the biggest shows during their hottest business period ever
BTW, the Wrestlemania in '98 (Rose's first appearance) had a running theme of disgraced celebrities. Besides Charlie Hustle you also had Gennifer Flowers as a guest interviewer, and Mike Tyson as a special referee in the main event...
Lifetime Cardinal fan, but I always pulled for Pete except when he played my Cardinals. Love or hate him, he's the greatest player ever.
He’s not even close to the greatest player ever.
I hated him when he beat my favorite teams, but at the same time respected his talent and hustle and would have loved for him to be on my team. He should be in the Hall of Fame.
I suppose so, but he’s not someone anyone should look up to. Dude has serious issues
They will put Rose in the hall after he dies.
@@danapaul3216 I disagree, the more that comes out about the guy…the more of a degenerate he becomes. Not everyone in the HOF is a saint but Pete would lower the bar significantly.
And this is coming from a guy that as a kid patterned his baseball play after Charlie Hustle.
@@johnbuckley8724 if that’s the case Ty Cobb was hated by his teammates and was a racist and injured players on the field yet he is in the hall of fame
@@danapaul3216 Nope. Shoeless Joe has served his lifetime ban and is still not in.
He isn't the last player manager in the history of baseball, Major League Baseball, but not Baseball.
Motonobu Tanishige was a Player-Manager as recently as 2015, because he was trying to break the NPB record for games played, which he did.
Hey it you! Fancy seeing you here. Love your channel :)
Good catch. Seeing as Rose was the last player-manager in MLB really speaks volumes on how impressive it is to be a player-manager in the first place, let alone be a catcher like Tanishige and Furuta.
obviously we are talking about the majors though
Rest In Peace Ray Fosse
I Came here from the VLAD interview....Wow!!!! One of the first players to ever do a head first slide...Thats insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A documentary on Pete Rose sponsored by a casino. Classic!
It feels like every legend just have crazy history
Except for perhaps Ty Cobb. lol
Sam Rice (longtime Senators outfielder and Hofer.) Had an interesting history (by all rights as a good person though).
When he went to a baseball tryout, a tornado hit his home killing his parent, 3 siblings, his young wife and 1 I think he had 2 young children. All died. He later remarried, and his 2nd wife didnt know for a couple of decades until a reporter mentioned it. (Probably was too traumatic to bring up for him, i imagine)
@@davidharrison7014 yeah
@@demonkingbadger6689 man that’s horrible I can’t imagine the pain of his whole family dead in one day I don’t think I’d be able to remarry tbh I’d be mortified
@@Meza10952 well, i think it was well into his career when he remarried, but i cant remember exactly when.
If it was "just an Allstar game", why did Ray Fosse try to block the plate?
That argument goes both ways
Agreed
The All Star game used to determine home field advantage for the WS and the winners share was far largwr than the losers.He absolutely should have barreled Fosse.Universally considered one of the best plays in all sports history.
@@rockvocalist7007 Yep, the All-Star Game was about who was better, the American League or the National League, and at the time, there was no interleague play. A team from the NL would play an AL team like there is in the regular season. Before that, it was the only way to happen in the All-Star Game or the WS. This shows that the players and the teams played more aggressively because of the bragging rights. The All-Star Game is pointless nowadays because AL teams and NL teams still play outside the All-Star Game and the World Series. The All-Star Game winner does not get home-field advantage in the WS, but instead, that home-field advantage goes to the WS team with the best record that season. So what is the point of the Game then, when Baseball's best can play each other besides the game that should have decided home-field advantage in the WS.
To me, if you are going to do it, make it universal DH in both leagues, have the All-Star Game be for home-field advantage for the WS. Remove interleague games, where the games matter more. To make the game faster, initiate a pitch clock.
@@rockvocalist7007 The all star game didn't determine home field advantage when Rose was playing. That experiment came after Rose retired and they got rid of it because everyone saw it as unfair to the WS team that had a better record.
I was wondering the same thing!!!
i met pete rose today, what a coincidence that this video was made
Did you pay for dinner?
Mlb made an example of pete rose in 1989. They did not do anything such as that to the Houston Astros for cheating in the world series. (Violating the integrity of the game) to much money involved. Different times.
You should do the Denny McLain story( Detroit Tigers pitcher)Now there’s a sociopath that ruined many peoples lives. Pete Rose has nothing on him.
Pete Rose lives in Santa Clarita, California now. I’ve ran into him and his wife multiple times here
My great uncle Jerry got in a fight with Pete Rose playing inter mural basketball. People don’t mess with Jerry 😂
Can you cover the Cincinnati 10cent beer night? June 4th 1974? Would like to hear what you have to say about that one.
My coach met pete rose at crackerbarrel once and said that you should always play every game like it's the last you will ever play. Since then I have used that and and my performance (already good) increased.
His season average for war is 3.3, hard pass not even factoring his other issues.
5:00 I’m from Cincinnati and I find this crazy because this place is so close to my house it’s 10 min away from my house
A 7000 dollar bonus in 1962 is about 65000 dollars today. Seems like he could have afforded a decent car and maybe some rent. My parents bought a pretty nice house in 1964 for 12k on Staten Island in NYC.
its always a good day when a commentary video comes out
Pete Rose isn’t the first low-life in baseball nor will he be the last. But he is certainly the most engaging of them all.
He told a really funny story about How Dimaggio on the Howard Stern show. Find the clip on youtube, it is hilarious 😂
Guys like him, Dykstra, and Canseco are what make this game magical. Need more guys like them in baseball today, that's how you get viewers
This beats watching the nfl! Thanks for dropping it on Sunday.
Ty Cobb: I’m the biggest douchebag to ever play baseball!!!
Pete Rose: Hold my beer.
I live in Vegas, and he regularly sets up at a sports shop at Mandalay Place, signing memorabilia.
Good video, I think lots of people need to see this video because it seems most fans don’t know how much trouble he has gotten into during his life and that he actually agreed to his ban. People really think that all he did was bet on a few games.
I personally think his betting illness is why he left the Reds & signed with the Phillies. I remember him bragging that contract made him the highest paid player in baseball at the time. He probably needed that money to make up his gambling losses.
@@Caseytify never thought of that before but I agree with you.
@@Caseytify
When he was a free agent, some offers included racehorses as part of the contract...everyone knew he had a gambling problem, they just didn't know he would be betting on baseball in a few years' time
Pete Rose is the definition of come back with a warrant.
Needs to be in the hall of fame
@Lighthouse in the Storm Have you ever seen the man play
@@timlerminiaux2346 Yep. I have, and people who bet on baseball need banned.
Gambling has been a non starter since the Black Sox scandal. Everyone knew this, including Pete. He should never get in.
You’re right about that, and not to mention he served time in Prison for Tax Evasion!!!!
Pete Rose will be reinstated and put in the HOF after he dies. BBWA and MLB don't want to give him the satisfaction while he is alive.
Can you do a video on the astrodome?
That sponsor ad is kinda funny considering that a Lightning Link was a device made to convert any AR15 to full auto
ngl i was super interested in watching this after i got off work (from a casino) and your sponsor gave me flashbacks to 45 minutes ago and now i wanna go home whilst sitting in my home....there is no escape.
Pete Rose was never baseball's best player. He wasn't even the best player on his team. Overall Morgan/Bench were better. And in certain seasons Perez/Foster were also better. And while he was indeed a very famous baseball player, to be the "SELF-PROCLAIMED MOST FAMOUS WHITE ATHLETE IN THE WORLD" doesn't mean much. One can SELF PROCLAIM anything about oneself that one wants. That doesn't automatically make it true..
As for him being the MOST BEOVED PLAYER IN BASEBALL, I don't know about that. He was a very devisive player. A lot of fans liked him. And a lot of fans couldn't stand him. But I would say that it's true that few people were neutral about him.
However, if you just go by the numbers he does belong in the HOF. And should have been a 1st ballot HOF-er.
Same with the Phillies. Mike Schmidt was in his prime years and was lethal.
Joe Morgan is fascinating to me - one of the best 2nd basemen of all time, has an argument as THE greatest, but a player only analytics could fully appreciate. And yet he became most (in)famous to fans of more recent generations for his anti-analytics rants.
100% agree with you on him & Bench being the MVPs of the Big Red Machine! And though not on Rose's level, don't forget Ken Griffey Sr. either...he's probably on the level just below the Hall of Fame.
@@joshthefunkdoc Uh, you realize Joe Morgan won two MVPs, right? How could he be underrated by the anti-analytics crowd when he won two MVPs in an era with almost no analytics
Pete Rose wasn't even ever the best player on his own teams
@Lighthouse in the Storm Frank Robinson, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Mike Schmidt, Andre Dawson, Gary Carter, Eric Davis, etc
You should do Rick ankiel next
Bet on your own team to lose while you're playing and managing them: unforgivable.... Rose is in the top ten players of all-time, but should never be reinstated or elected to the hall of fame.
Pete never bet on his team to lose...........
@@TheJer1963 Doesn't matter, just betting on baseball alone creates a huge conflict of interest. And also we have nothing that says he did NOT bet on his team to lose. Just his word.
I look at it like this. If he was betting his team everyday and his team was eliminated late in the season and he was playing call ups or bench players there’s no way he doesn’t bet on his team to lose. He’d be burning money otherwise.
>Bashes Pete Rose for gambling
>Opens with an ad for a gambling app
one of my favorite sportstube channels. amazing work dude, always love watching your stuff!
Man, one of these needs to be done for Denny McLean.
Summoning Salt and Baseball Doesn't Exist in the last 24 hours. Thank you!
I loved to see the summoning salt baseball references
Pete bet on MLB baseball while managing a MLB baseball team,that's an automatic out. Great player but thought rules didn't apply to him.
You’re right about that!!!!
I didn’t realize Pete rose was so good on the field. He was before my time and obviously I heard about the betting scandal but damn he was good
Pete made his own bed, now he's lying in it. He deserves being left out. It's all Pete's fault
Bullshit - Any allegation was allegedly done after his HOF career. He already had 4,000+ hits BEFORE he supposedly bet on baseball.
@@TrumpFanNetwork2 and before he corked his bat? Before he had relations with that underage kid? sure bro, keep defending a garbage human 🙄
@@TrumpFanNetwork2 he willing signed the lifetime ban to end the investigation
@@shustyrackleford7692 but there was an agreement with Giamante that would allow him in the hall. The ban never included the hall anyways.
Blame Pete. He gambled on games he was involved in. Not me, not the voters, not the commissioner, not the media, etc. It's all Pete. If he didn't gamble on games he was involved in, he'd be in the HOF. He would've been on the first ballot
Nice Gambling ad lol
Unless it's a situation like a Chris Benoit, you shouldn't get barred from the HOF
They still celebrate him on the field, invite him for broadcasts, and even more, it's clear he's not taboo to anyone but the snobs at the top
I don’t even watch baseball yet I am hooked on these videos! Wish they were NFL but WOW these are so very entertaining.
The NFL would never do that to me. I mean, I had deflategate, and spygate and am still the GOAT in the sport.
id hustle too if i was on anphetamines
In a Pat Mccafee podcast i watched not that long ago, he was talking about how ALOT of NFL players take adderall before games. N athletes use it alot more than you would think
I’m from the same town as Ray Fosse and he’s a big deal here, such a big deal that we named our park after him, Pete Rose is hated in Marion bc he practically ruined Ray Fosse’s career in a game that didn’t even matter. (He also looks like Bruce banner from the 70’s Hulk show)
Only happened recently but his rant in the Phillies broadcast booth...maybe a year ago was pretty bad too lol
0:05 not true. Ichiro Suzuki has the most hits in baseball history Pete Rose does have the most hits in Major League Baseball history, but Ichiro Suzuki played some of his career in MLB and some in Japan for the NPB. If you add together his two totals, he has more hits than Pete Rose. Ichiro has 4,367 vs. Rose’s 4,256.
NPB is somewhere between AA and AAA when compared with MLB.
He’s one of the best. I was able to meet him earlier in June and he was the nicest guy!
So was O.J. Simpson, many people have said.
Now MLB has gambling sponsors
I can't see Pete Rose as the best player in the history of the game, that would take away the achievements of players that in my opinion did more to promote baseball than bring it down. Glad he will never be in the baseball Hall of Fame. I wish the League would start banning other players for their cheating and use of prohibited substances.
Pete Rose: the PERFECT representation of the bizarre, awful, amazing people that Cincinnati somehow manages to produce.
Source: I am from Cincinnati.
I'm from close to Cincinnati myself - Rose made POOR choices, and he's still paying for them, but this is a bias hit piece full of some compliments covered with facts, half-truths, and LIES.
@@usaveteran-retired6464 Name the lies.
@@maxxdahl6062 Sorry - 8 months now since my message, and to those thinking you have to be born or from Cincy, that's hogwash. Still, if that's supposed to be some decoded right to opine, I was born in Cincy, and from a small town @ 40 miles away - Not that I haven't lived there in a long time, mind you.
Again, 8 mos since I sent this - I don't have time to go over this garbage right now. I have work that counts for now, not 33 years ago. Mr. Rose FOULED up his own post-baseball ties, but I DON'T believe the bat corking in 1984 by some obscure music star wanna-bee over 35 years after the fact, for one. I'll need downtime to address this, and I'm not even close. That said, you can believe Rose murdered JFK and kidnapped the Lindbergh Baby all you want. Have a good day.
1970s to 2017 is way WAY past statute of limitations... LMFFFAAAOOO
All time great player. All time lousy human being.
One of the top 5 greatest baseball players of all time and absolutely should be in the Hall
Love the channel and I love your content and I know it's just to draw attention, but there is no era when pete rose was the best player. Johnny Bench was the best player on that team, although I would probably take Rose second after Bench. He was the best ever at the thing he is known for, racking up hits over a long career. Certainly nobody better at that.
Joe morgan was a far better player than rose all around. Power. Speed. Glove.
A player who backs up every play and always sprints.... that's incredible and anyone would love a teammate like that
He deserves to be in the hall of Fame.
When he's dead. He willing signed the lifetime ban