The Treyarch game that redefined WW2 | World at War Retrospective

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  • Call of Duty: World at War is arguably the last of the good World War 2 shooters: at least when it comes to the singleplayer campaign side of things. During a period of time that witnessed a mass exodus away from the setting towards the much more popular Modern Military Shooter market popularised by Infinity Ward, Treyarch's final dip into the deadliest conflict in human history nonetheless managed to recapture our attention one final time.
    In this video, I look into the changing landscape of first person shooter games leading up to the release of World at War, answering the question of how this game was able to succeed despite the massive influence of Modern Warfare.
    References:
    Call of Duty 4 Postmortem (Game Developer - March, 2008 Issue) Zied Rieke and Michael Boon interview.
    Online version available at www.gamedeveloper.com/busines...
    Call of Duty: World at War Interview (VideoGamer - June 22, 2008) Wesley Yin-Poole interviewing Noah Heller and Rich Farrelly.
    www.videogamer.com/previews/c...
    Official Xbox Magazine Issue 86 (August, 2008) Ryan McCaffrey.
    CoD:WaW Interview Mark Lamia From Treyarch On New Features (September 27, 2008) EverythingCallOfDuty TH-cam Channel.
    • CoD:WaW Interview Mark...
    CoD: World At War - fear, familiarity and the moral conflict (The Guardian - November 19, 2008) Article by Keith Stuart.
    www.theguardian.com/technolog...
    Behind the Music of Call of Duty: World at War (Music4Games - December 5, 2008) Interview with Sean Murray by Alex Van Zelfden.
    web.archive.org/web/200812191...
    Aesthetics of World at War (Face Full of Eyes - March 11, 2021)
    • Aesthetics of World at...
    Activision Blames Disappointing Call Of Duty Sales On World War II (Kotaku - May 3, 2022) by Ethan Gach.
    kotaku.com/activision-call-du...
    Additional Sources:
    Call of Duty: A short history: microsites.ign.com/call-of-du...
    Call of Duty World at War Developer Insights | Exclusive Interview with Treyarch: • Call of Duty World at ...
    Call of Duty: World at War announced: www.engadget.com/2008-06-09-c...
    Quality Time with Hutch - Interview with Vahn from Treyarch (Part 1): • ARCHIVE: Quality Time ...
    0:00 The B Studio
    6:44 Ch 1 | Pre-release
    10:36 Ch 2 | Pacific Campaign
    19:24 Ch 3 | Eastern Front Campaign
    26:05 Ch 4 | Original Soundtrack
    32:25 Ch 4 (Pt 2) | RAWK
    38:23 Ch 5 | Campaign Conclusion
    40:06 Ch 6 | Additional Mentions
    43:18 Conclusion
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ความคิดเห็น • 42

  • @salmomin9351
    @salmomin9351 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    This is the best treyarch cod and I'm willing to die on this hill

  • @Gibby42069
    @Gibby42069 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The fact that the opening is historically accurate is wild

    • @piotrmontgomerytv7786
      @piotrmontgomerytv7786 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Opening, closing fans cutscenes are all 100% accurate. Like only innacuracies in the game are in Vendetta mission(excluding Ray Gun) we had king tiger tanks in Stalingrad and something wrong with iron aim on mosin apparently idk that was a historian pointing it out. Well, but does game have to be accurate to be good? No. It is like movie 300 historically innacurate but good. Also Tiger 2 in Stalingrad was pretty much the only innacuracy I spotted in WaW.

    • @Gibby42069
      @Gibby42069 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@piotrmontgomerytv7786 huh?

  • @Steven-cf1ty
    @Steven-cf1ty 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I still remember my first playthrough of WaW as a kid. The first Soviet level still stands out in my memories as the most iconic cod level ever. The grim tone and the faster pace gameplay in a ww2 game was something I wasn't expecting after playing the PS2 games and black ops 1. WW2 just got burned in my head as a pretty cool setting and Vietnam was the scary jungle place, and by the time Reznov starts killing POWs its really something crazy if your experience with ww2 Soviet games is Cod Finest Hour as a kid too young to really understand that wars aren't good guys beating up bad guys.

  • @NILEGOD.777
    @NILEGOD.777 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you for mentioning the soundtrack to this game. No one really mentions how unique it was to include traditional acoustic instruments with industrial synths and percussion which you don't really see outside the realm of Trent Reznor and a select few industrial artists

  • @yourmanjimbo1302
    @yourmanjimbo1302 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Great vid. Minor point I would add is that your choices in the Soviet campaign do make a slight difference at the end. At the beginning of the final mission, an excerpt of Chernov’s diary is read. If you didn’t kill any wounded Germans or the ones at the end of Eviction, Chernov writes that he respects your mercy and sees you as a real hero. If you did the opposite, he calls you brutal and no hero. If you alternated between mercy and revenge he doesn’t know what to make of you. It’s a minor thing, but it is a conclusion to the attempts at ‘moral choices’ throughout the Soviet campaign. Totally agree on the points about the music btw.

  • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
    @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The industrial metal fits so much with the second world war
    Not only industry played an extremely important aspect to the war
    But we can also examine how the human cost in this war and the extermination had an industrial quality to it
    Specially, well, with the Holocaust

  • @botluckproductions
    @botluckproductions 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I remember in school played as though they had p90s and I said I had a ppsh. They said I was old school. They were playing Modern Warfare, I was playing World at War.

  • @yourmanjimbo1302
    @yourmanjimbo1302 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Very excited for another in depth vid of yours, I loved the endwar and WIC vids

  • @starfall631
    @starfall631 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes, yes, yes i totally agree!!!!(haven't passed the 2 second mark)

  • @freXampl
    @freXampl 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've been waiting for this.

  • @unitedfront9717
    @unitedfront9717 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another banger from our second favourite Hub

  • @shuritgaming8038
    @shuritgaming8038 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, when i beat the game as a kid and zombies started ,that scared the shit out of me 😂❤

  • @patrickbrown897
    @patrickbrown897 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Actually the tactics being used early in the Japanese campaign is accurate, bonzai charges only occurred at the beginning of the war, since Japanese leadership realized after a couple massacred that they don't work. The way the combat plays out is surprisingly accurate to the tactics of the time, and the usage of those tactics in the real life timeline of the war.

  • @blazelightzero595
    @blazelightzero595 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One aspect of World at War's presentation that I feel goes unmentioned in retrospectives like this is its use of splicing real world footage into the cutscenes. It's a quirk unique to Treyarch COD games that helps blur the lines between what's fictional in-game to the real world atrocities committed in this war. It is another element of this game's tone that accentuates the horror portrayed during gameplay and makes the whole experience feel like a snuff film on top of maintaining the player's intrigue apart from the static mission briefings of Infinity Ward's entries. It's truly impressive how they managed to effortlessly weave those snippets of real life into the game.

  • @thelostvoyager7026
    @thelostvoyager7026 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Another Banger 🎉🎉🎉

  • @HiHowAreYaaaa
    @HiHowAreYaaaa 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    World at War is an underrated masterpiece

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      World at war is ridiculously overrated. There's a new video essay about it every month.

  • @bloodysimile4893
    @bloodysimile4893 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    World at War that show the horror of war without beating you on the head of it.
    The jungle warfare fighting the Japanese with desperate to just survive.
    Then USSR where you can feel the overwhelming need to fight for the motherland to drive the dagger into the heart of Germany.
    I'm sure Dimitri return home with a hero welcome.

  • @CreamFacial
    @CreamFacial 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hell yes, another Face Full of Eyes advert. God bless.

    • @scavmerchanthub
      @scavmerchanthub  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wait till you see the rawk chapter 😭

    • @CreamFacial
      @CreamFacial 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      HAHAHAHAHAH

    • @CreamFacial
      @CreamFacial 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@scavmerchanthub I am so glad that TH-cam recommended me your channel last year. Keep up the great videos man, looking forward to the next one :D

  • @Gucci_Nomad
    @Gucci_Nomad 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    25:42 even reznov knew

  • @ivandesiigner
    @ivandesiigner 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I know the choice the game give you on the metro entrance doesn't matter at all but I found very confusing that if you kill the soldiers by burning them is considered the one chernov influenced us to do, the one guy that is the most pacifist or at least he tried to, and if we shoot them or mercy kill them then is the one influenced by reznov the guy who just wants to see them suffer, quite strange was it on purpose was an error or did I misunderstand?

    • @ivandesiigner
      @ivandesiigner 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I might've misunderstand something here, I never played this game before so I know nothing about the characters and story here.

    • @yourmanjimbo1302
      @yourmanjimbo1302 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think if you refuse to do anything to them (and have the other soviets kill them with molotovs) that’s the pacifist Chernov choice. If you gun them down, that’s the bloodthirsty Reznov choice. I guess the moral is that you personally should not engage in senseless violence, even if they are going to die anyway

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ivandesiigner What the skibidi

  • @Theofiilus2978
    @Theofiilus2978 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was 12 when waw came out. I saw the first mission when my brother played it. Only the opening scene gave me an awe already. The multiplayer doesn't look as good as MW but i bet it was good one. I didn't get to play it myself because it wouldn't have run on family computer and my brother kept his computer just for him understandably. I was stuck on my PS2 at that time.

  • @beegdonkey5750
    @beegdonkey5750 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, I been on a cod binge lately so would love if you made more videos on the series. Although the best ones are the earlier games on pc. Cod 1 and its expansion, 2, 4, this game, mw2, and finally black ops 1. After that the pc ports sucked

  • @youvebeengreeked
    @youvebeengreeked 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the greatest FPS game of all time.
    Simple.

  • @iniguezawsome
    @iniguezawsome 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love FFOE but yeah I agree

  • @iamwrong2239
    @iamwrong2239 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn, what an amazing video. Although I will say, just because they wanted to be more gritty with how they presented WW2, that doesn't mean its historically accurate. You may be correct in thinking this is dumb of me to point out, but I also want to remind of the brain rot that is Tik Tok and, in general, the internet. You should go find some WW2 focused channels if you are interested in learning more about WW2 or wait for Wendigoon to drop his very long WW2 video that he plans on doing but I'm not sure if he is still doing it or has decided to do something else entirely

  • @Saniteee
    @Saniteee 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I remember being young and having my granny after school getting upset with the gore and violence in video games I would play for an hour or two when getting home but once WaW came out and I was killing nazi zombies she was a little more lenient 😂

  • @baconcurtain5089
    @baconcurtain5089 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Treyarch has carried Call Of Duty for the last 15 years and I love it

  • @ArkMagician
    @ArkMagician วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why did I see skibidid toilet

  • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
    @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    World at War is the only CoD i like
    The soviet campaing specially
    Even tho i really dislike how they really really really try to make the soviets as bad as the nazis
    Like I'm sorry
    They are literal Nazis who engaged in a genocidal campaing against eastern europe and by the time the Soviet union was in Seelow heights they already discovered the Holocaust, that the genocide wasn't "only" against the soviet communists and slavic people
    But the jews, the gypsies, and so on
    They knew about the concentration camps, about the extermination camps, the guettos, they suffered first hand the genocide of the fascists, with 20 million plus sovietd dying
    So like
    No
    They aren't equal
    I ain't feeling bad or sympathy for any SS or wermacht soldier who carried all the Holocaust
    "Oh but they commited war crimes and were really brutal" as if the other allies didn't engaged in the same time of brutality
    Specially the atomic bombings wich were completely unnecessary
    And guess what
    No allied war crime comes close to what the axis, be it nazi Germany or imperial Japan did
    This game tried to do an classic anti soviet propaganda but accidentally made the most based pro Soviet propaganda ever

  • @thewintereaglefly
    @thewintereaglefly 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Random rob scallon moment

  • @redaug4212
    @redaug4212 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another 45 minute video essay glazing World at War... Daring today, aren't we?

    • @gavinrobinson2270
      @gavinrobinson2270 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      th-cam.com/video/9ql08KK0G40/w-d-xo.html