@@thegaminglord2190 I think the bronze would need at least 2x buffs to account for all the damage they'd be taking from not having good positioning. Other than that, idk
@@aaronshipp1226 Agreed. I don't know why chat wanted sombra back, she gets incredible value, for little skill or risk. The 2.5x games were honestly pretty entertaining even if they didn't win any of them. Also the last game was the absolute worst of them all. Watching Ball literally incapable of playing the game because of how much stun mixed with heavy dps from bastion and zen made it so unfun to watch.
@@dedguysrule3791 >unfun to watch Depends on you, bruv. As we all know, Twitch chat LOVES when Streamer suffers. So now go figure "WHY did the chat wanted the Sombra Unban?"
Sombra feels like the best pick against every hero, she should be playable, but at least not be allowed to hack more than 1 health pack at a time to not feel completely oppressive in 5v1.
2CP would be even worse than payload because of 2nd point respawns.. bronzes can literally throw themselves on point one by one and hold and he can't live for health packs.. And on defense he can't leave the point and if he dies once they fully cap
Unable to heal from health packs, more damage taken for eight seconds and unable to use abilities for 1.5 seconds every four seconds. Sombra makes these 1v5s kind of pointless.
Like no offence to emong but before ball buff he wouldve prob been master 1 or 2 at best one tricking ball whule chazm was like rank 1 or some shit, like theres a huge difference thats why i need to chazm doing this so bad, hope jay3 makes a vid with chazm 🙏
@@seanmat8 emongs ball is not very good tbh. he doesn’t use a single tech. i feel like chazm could do this without ever shooting lol just using slam and double boops
@@lewigigames840 all they'd need to do is combo ults and there's literally nothing he can do about it no matter how mechanically skilled he is. increasing their ult charge is going to make it unwinnable
Why unban Sombra? I’m fine with Sombra in normal games but in this custom mode it makes no sense to have a hero that can disable the whole one person team on cooldown. It’s just lame
Yeah, as entertaining as these 1v5 videos are, the second Sombra is in the picture it just gets boring real fast. Unable to heal from health packs, more damage taken for eight seconds and unable to use abilities for 1.5 seconds every four seconds for the one person facing the entire team. What's the point?
I like seeing this, i mean you can see all the mistakes that all bronze players do. It's hilarious but still they evolve, they learn to work as a team from time to time, but that don't last long hahaha
They got rolled so much they HAD to unban Sombra? The only character that pretty much guarantees a win since it mitigates the battle of attrition by hacking health packs. Definitely sounded like a good time lmao.
Sombra should probably stay banned in these. She's too much of a benefit. It'd be different if it was a 2v5. But in a 1v5, she makes it kind of boring to watch.
Suggestion: Using workshop settings, add out of combat regen for the 1v5 player, unban sombra and try x2 or even x1.5, see if that makes it fairer now that sombra cant just remove your own means of healing
NGL, it's getting kinda boring seeing you lose because you have to win 2x the teams fights for the same amount of progress in hybrid and payload maps. Control maps are fun to watch, because you win a fight, you get some percentage; they win a fight, they get some percentage, there's give an take. Payload is boring because when they win a fight they get percentage but when you win you get no percentage. If there's some way to increase your capture weight that would make the games much better.
They went full toxicity at the end sombra to hack health packs and you the bastion to shred your health the discord orb to do more damage and the Ana sleep dart and nade
Wouldn't hurt I guess but it also doesn't come into play that often (because you can't use health packs with an enemy Sombra). Healthpack hacks losing some timer on being picked up could be interesting, obviously this wouldn't really affect 1v5 though
I don't understand what the OW balance team was smoking when they buffed Ball the way they did. They had to be smoking so pretty OPAF kush there to think that was a good idea lmao, they undid their OW1 change to armor and made him basically the Brigbuffed Zen.
Is wrecking ball the only character with every type of health he has regular , armour , shield and over health I cant hink if sigma does but i dont think he ha shield so is wrecking ball the only one
Personally speaking, i think atleast when you are playing wrecking ball, having a bit lower HP should be fine because including the temp shields, his HP can go well beyond 2000 and at that its too much.
The maximum HP wrecking ball can get though without beat, rally, shout etc is only 1300 though? I don’t know where the hell you got well over 2000 from?
Not really, he is very strong now but i think his only problem is how quickly his ult becomes active. It's hard to react to but i dont think his other buffs were too much.
@@keyzzz9798 idk about that, t500 is currently hell as we have the widow/hanzo comp plus a ball that'll dive the support keeping our counter sniper alive. Brig ana, kiriko, and zen are the only support unless someone has enough of ball and goes Lucio. I think he just needs a shield nerf and maybe nerf the sort of vortex caused by slam TL;DR ball has too much hp and dmg for his crowd control and capabilities of diving
Fr, Hog would have been my first pick. Save hook for when he's trying to disengage. Zarya maybe purely for bubbling the supports to limit his engagement time. Sombra/Sym was a good pick, they just needed to use the TP to put their supports on high ground, and the turrets near health packs. Obviously hacking the megas sooner. I might have gone Mei instead of Sym
Ball (and doom) should have their health pool dropped and then they should be moved to DPS instead. There is no such thing as an off tank anymore. Playing with a ball sucks (especially new ball players) because then the team really feels like it's missing its tank.
ball should have be dps? lmao that's the weed talking, think about that for just a second, ball and orisa on the same team in role queue. doom is basically dps at this point. hell, in open queue, bastion has more health than doom does.
@Drugged Dimmadome did the weed make you miss the part where I said his health pool should be dropped first? Ball with 300-400 hp isn't unreasonable. Ball with 700+ hp with 3 different health types by default is unreasonable. That fixes him for people playing against him. When he is a team's tank, most of the time, he is nowhere to be found. Kind of makes the game unplayable in certain situations (namely when playing solo and you can't communicate with/rely on your random teammates) when there is no tank to be found. Putting him in DPS fixes that issue. He'd also see more play as a dive DPS than a dive tank, because there is less pressure on a DPS to go with the meta than there is for a tank.
@@ReptarKingoftheBrozone He has way too much displacement to be anything but tank with their 'less stuns' design philosophy. His size is also something to think about
@@ReptarKingoftheBrozone Ehh ball on dps still doesn't sound too great, i doubt alot of people will play him as dps, probably only people main or one trick him. Health that low could make it real hard to actually get plays, as you'd just get melted the second you enter the fight, especially when you consider how large he is. His kit would need to be changed to fit a dps role, as his involves alot of displacement and area denial, which the role of a tank. This just seems like you want ball to be giga nerfed and you're trying to justify it by making him dps. Unless you got something else to back up your point, it seems like a bad choice.
@TANKTAHU if you could ever "just melt" him then it could be done as a tank as well. Mei and Junkrat are zoners. They are DPS. bastions ult is a zoner and he's DPS. DPS can be area denial. I think MORE people would play him if he was a dps instead of a tank. As somebody else mentioned, think back to Orisa and Ball playing together. My main problem with ball is that his play style doesn't match what I consider to be the standard with tanks (I know that's 100% my opinion. Not stating it as a fact.) The majority of people that play him will swing in, pile driver pop their shield and run away til the cooldowns come back. Rinse and repeat until you have mines and that is wrecking ball. The problem there is that while wrecking ball is running away and NOT creating space or bullet sponging for the teammates, the enemy team has no problem turning the 4 v 5 into a pseudo-team kill. If he's in DPS then he isn't the one responsible for driving the team-bus to checkpoint town.
These are not bronze players. I play in low gold and they are not that good. Counter picks? Hitting sleeps? Hitting rocks? High ground? Play together? This is not bronze
As a ball player in your situation you should always use your mines defensively, if your your in a fight with low hp you should always ult in front of the payload and run for health, best case scenario, they are gonna do thier bronze magic and walk in the mines that will one shot them, worst case scenario they are gonna stop pushing shoot mines that has 2.0 or 2.5 more hp (i guess that's a 100 hp per mine) and it will gave you more than enough time to get health (assuming no sombra) and get back in the fight while they pushed nothing
This is my favorite series by you. I wonder how a 5 buffed bronzes vs. 5 regular gm's would go
@bullrage74 If you want to see Jay3 has made a video on that
th-cam.com/video/PeX3IN_5_eQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Halucion thanks
How do you think it would go?
@@thegaminglord2190 I think the bronze would need at least 2x buffs to account for all the damage they'd be taking from not having good positioning. Other than that, idk
I think the perfect balance would be ban sombra and make it 2x stats or unban sombra and make it 2.25 or 2.5x stats
This gets a bit boring with Sombra not banned. It’s just the same thing over and over. The most entertaining portion was the first part with no sombra
Hmm maybe we should just remove sombra from the game.🤔. Think most people would be fine with that 😂
@@aaronshipp1226 Agreed. I don't know why chat wanted sombra back, she gets incredible value, for little skill or risk. The 2.5x games were honestly pretty entertaining even if they didn't win any of them. Also the last game was the absolute worst of them all. Watching Ball literally incapable of playing the game because of how much stun mixed with heavy dps from bastion and zen made it so unfun to watch.
@@dedguysrule3791 >unfun to watch
Depends on you, bruv. As we all know, Twitch chat LOVES when Streamer suffers. So now go figure "WHY did the chat wanted the Sombra Unban?"
If that one dps wasnt on pharah/genji and instead on a hitscan, and the supports went ana/zen they could have won that
21:48 says that attack is harder. Proceeds to play a hybrid map
8:22
Piledriving the mother _and_ her daughter at the same time? Ggs
Definetely don't Google this
Sombra feels like the best pick against every hero, she should be playable, but at least not be allowed to hack more than 1 health pack at a time to not feel completely oppressive in 5v1.
You should do a 2cp map on one of these. Payloads are almost unwinnable since you can only push with 1
Yeah, cause 2cp would be more balanced
2CP would be even worse than payload because of 2nd point respawns.. bronzes can literally throw themselves on point one by one and hold and he can't live for health packs..
And on defense he can't leave the point and if he dies once they fully cap
Unable to heal from health packs, more damage taken for eight seconds and unable to use abilities for 1.5 seconds every four seconds. Sombra makes these 1v5s kind of pointless.
8* seconds, and they only take extra DPS from Sombra.
She's useless in 1v5s vs heroes like JQ while she stomps heroes like WB and DF.
Still waiting for 1 buffed bronze vs 5 nerfed top 500
GGs, This was a lot of fun. Thank you for the games.
The bronze picked Genji against Ball. Yep, certified bronze.
That poor zen getting picked on lol
I got rolled lmao
yes indeed. You are very bad
@Winston lmao ,I mean I'm in bronze for a reason ya'know
@@winston7055 real Winston would never be that mean, shame on you
@@winston7055 shame on you
@@winston7055 tf is wrong with you??????
I love This series but I feel Sombra should be banned against heroes who can’t heal just forces so much c9s
It would be nuts to see Chazm attempt this
That's what I was thinking
Chazm might be able to do it at 1.5x lol
Like no offence to emong but before ball buff he wouldve prob been master 1 or 2 at best one tricking ball whule chazm was like rank 1 or some shit, like theres a huge difference thats why i need to chazm doing this so bad, hope jay3 makes a vid with chazm 🙏
@@seanmat8 emongs ball is not very good tbh. he doesn’t use a single tech. i feel like chazm could do this without ever shooting lol just using slam and double boops
Litch what i said lol?? You just agreeing?
you should try increasing the bronze ult charge, the don't have a lot of combat charge
That would make it unwinnable. It’s already bad enough taking damage from 5 players
@@whoizrez how?
@@lewigigames840 all they'd need to do is combo ults and there's literally nothing he can do about it no matter how mechanically skilled he is. increasing their ult charge is going to make it unwinnable
Why unban Sombra? I’m fine with Sombra in normal games but in this custom mode it makes no sense to have a hero that can disable the whole one person team on cooldown. It’s just lame
Yeah, as entertaining as these 1v5 videos are, the second Sombra is in the picture it just gets boring real fast. Unable to heal from health packs, more damage taken for eight seconds and unable to use abilities for 1.5 seconds every four seconds for the one person facing the entire team. What's the point?
This just looks like normal wrecking ball gameplay 💀
the last round they has seriously good team play. Waiting for ana sleep's to make a wombo combo
NOT THE TACO BELL BONG
These 1v5 games would definitely be more fun to watch without Sombra, but thanks for uploading 👌
1 *BUFFED* buffed Lucio vs 5 BRONZE PLAYERS... Who wins?
I like seeing this, i mean you can see all the mistakes that all bronze players do. It's hilarious but still they evolve, they learn to work as a team from time to time, but that don't last long hahaha
Emongg video, 8 seconds after posting? Let's goooo!
Sombra's recall device needs to start the cool down after she recalls to it, not as soon as she throws it.
14:11 why is it when emongg looked at the camera he kinda looked like jacksepticeye
They got rolled so much they HAD to unban Sombra? The only character that pretty much guarantees a win since it mitigates the battle of attrition by hacking health packs. Definitely sounded like a good time lmao.
what are your crosshair settings?
I hope the Zen found this to be educational at least.
Did your outro song get claimed?
Sombra should probably stay banned in these. She's too much of a benefit. It'd be different if it was a 2v5. But in a 1v5, she makes it kind of boring to watch.
ahh yes
1*BUFFED* buffed ball
When is 2 times the status 2 mercies against bronze
shouldve asked chazm or bellaboo to do this
Suggestion:
Using workshop settings, add out of combat regen for the 1v5 player, unban sombra and try x2 or even x1.5, see if that makes it fairer now that sombra cant just remove your own means of healing
Loving the wrecking ball pride flag health
Emong needs to work on his ball movement and playstyle its pretty average but I love the vid keep it up:)
NGL, it's getting kinda boring seeing you lose because you have to win 2x the teams fights for the same amount of progress in hybrid and payload maps.
Control maps are fun to watch, because you win a fight, you get some percentage; they win a fight, they get some percentage, there's give an take. Payload is boring because when they win a fight they get percentage but when you win you get no percentage. If there's some way to increase your capture weight that would make the games much better.
They went full toxicity at the end sombra to hack health packs and you the bastion to shred your health the discord orb to do more damage and the Ana sleep dart and nade
I feel like hack should be cleansed when you get a health pack, like Ashe’s tnt
Wouldn't hurt I guess but it also doesn't come into play that often (because you can't use health packs with an enemy Sombra). Healthpack hacks losing some timer on being picked up could be interesting, obviously this wouldn't really affect 1v5 though
I don't understand what the OW balance team was smoking when they buffed Ball the way they did. They had to be smoking so pretty OPAF kush there to think that was a good idea lmao, they undid their OW1 change to armor and made him basically the Brigbuffed Zen.
I've been wondering for a while, how do you make these lobbies? I've been wanting to try this with my friends for a while now
Custom games, change the settings.
@@1MooseyGoosey1 I see, there is a lot of settings tho 😅 thx
I know Sombra is a huge counter, but her hack timings were perfect on last round. Ball got rolled! Yikes
This video is what would happend when i play ball
Is wrecking ball the only character with every type of health
he has regular , armour , shield and over health I cant hink if sigma does but i dont think he ha shield so is wrecking ball the only one
im smiling like i said something cute loved this one
What about emongg vs 100 blind children?
Does anybody know how to change the stats in custom games?
gm ball gets annihalated by bronze sombra
It would be lit to give the other team some sort of buff
They gettin rolled 😂
You should do an unranked version because I'm too bad to get wins to get to ranked 😢
How buffed do you need to be fo gm
I think the perfect balence would to be nerf genji
I think a better comp could be rein, sombra, reaper/mei, zen and kiriko/bap. And they would play very close but also they'll die everytime he ults lol
Rein gets wrecked by ball
Personally speaking, i think atleast when you are playing wrecking ball, having a bit lower HP should be fine because including the temp shields, his HP can go well beyond 2000 and at that its too much.
The maximum HP wrecking ball can get though without beat, rally, shout etc is only 1300 though? I don’t know where the hell you got well over 2000 from?
Oh damn I just realised you meant when he’s buffed for these vids my bad I’m stupid
I can tell you as a Bronze player before the video starts: Bronzes do not know how to deal with Wrecking Ball. At all :D
But who did call pest control?
Is anyone else worried that ball didnt recieve an emergency nerf yef?
Not really, he is very strong now but i think his only problem is how quickly his ult becomes active. It's hard to react to but i dont think his other buffs were too much.
I meant they didn't emergency nerf roadhog or orisa, wrecking ball while annoying isn't as strong as they were
@@keyzzz9798 idk about that, t500 is currently hell as we have the widow/hanzo comp plus a ball that'll dive the support keeping our counter sniper alive. Brig ana, kiriko, and zen are the only support unless someone has enough of ball and goes Lucio. I think he just needs a shield nerf and maybe nerf the sort of vortex caused by slam
TL;DR ball has too much hp and dmg for his crowd control and capabilities of diving
@@NoxiousIove I had wayyyy less fun in the roadhog meta personally so idk 😂
Honestly I’m relieved at it he needs it but I’m hardstuck silver on support so I’m not exactly sure what a good ball is
Do a buff doom fist ?
Sigma was a throw pick
Fr, Hog would have been my first pick. Save hook for when he's trying to disengage. Zarya maybe purely for bubbling the supports to limit his engagement time.
Sombra/Sym was a good pick, they just needed to use the TP to put their supports on high ground, and the turrets near health packs. Obviously hacking the megas sooner.
I might have gone Mei instead of Sym
Ball (and doom) should have their health pool dropped and then they should be moved to DPS instead. There is no such thing as an off tank anymore. Playing with a ball sucks (especially new ball players) because then the team really feels like it's missing its tank.
ball should have be dps? lmao that's the weed talking, think about that for just a second, ball and orisa on the same team in role queue.
doom is basically dps at this point. hell, in open queue, bastion has more health than doom does.
@Drugged Dimmadome did the weed make you miss the part where I said his health pool should be dropped first? Ball with 300-400 hp isn't unreasonable. Ball with 700+ hp with 3 different health types by default is unreasonable. That fixes him for people playing against him.
When he is a team's tank, most of the time, he is nowhere to be found. Kind of makes the game unplayable in certain situations (namely when playing solo and you can't communicate with/rely on your random teammates) when there is no tank to be found. Putting him in DPS fixes that issue. He'd also see more play as a dive DPS than a dive tank, because there is less pressure on a DPS to go with the meta than there is for a tank.
@@ReptarKingoftheBrozone He has way too much displacement to be anything but tank with their 'less stuns' design philosophy. His size is also something to think about
@@ReptarKingoftheBrozone Ehh ball on dps still doesn't sound too great, i doubt alot of people will play him as dps, probably only people main or one trick him. Health that low could make it real hard to actually get plays, as you'd just get melted the second you enter the fight, especially when you consider how large he is. His kit would need to be changed to fit a dps role, as his involves alot of displacement and area denial, which the role of a tank. This just seems like you want ball to be giga nerfed and you're trying to justify it by making him dps.
Unless you got something else to back up your point, it seems like a bad choice.
@TANKTAHU if you could ever "just melt" him then it could be done as a tank as well. Mei and Junkrat are zoners. They are DPS. bastions ult is a zoner and he's DPS. DPS can be area denial.
I think MORE people would play him if he was a dps instead of a tank. As somebody else mentioned, think back to Orisa and Ball playing together.
My main problem with ball is that his play style doesn't match what I consider to be the standard with tanks (I know that's 100% my opinion. Not stating it as a fact.) The majority of people that play him will swing in, pile driver pop their shield and run away til the cooldowns come back. Rinse and repeat until you have mines and that is wrecking ball. The problem there is that while wrecking ball is running away and NOT creating space or bullet sponging for the teammates, the enemy team has no problem turning the 4 v 5 into a pseudo-team kill. If he's in DPS then he isn't the one responsible for driving the team-bus to checkpoint town.
this mageofgames guy just picking the absolute worst heroes for this
This is why I hate sombra ruins the fun with *HAMPTER*
Buffed reaper?
Said this last time I’ll say it again pls pls pls pls do this concept with someone who is good with ball
Sigma was a terrible choice. I don't think we saw many successful ults lmao
yeah idk why they didn't play orisa or literally just try anything different
balls
I wanna see 1 slightly buffed tank +4 Sombras that can only hack vs 5 bronze
funny like always but how bad u have to be to go sombra 5vs1 ball... :O
Get chazm on this instead of you playing ball no offense but he is insane
Just increase her hack cooldown lowkey
45 second hack on health pack is e
Wayyyy to long. And more than enough time to rehack it so the enemy team never gets to use it. Kind of broken
These are not bronze players. I play in low gold and they are not that good. Counter picks? Hitting sleeps? Hitting rocks? High ground? Play together? This is not bronze
You realize adapting is a thing right
I get why people hate the Sombra but if she wasn't there then it would kinda be boring imo like the first part
Just Ban Sombra plz
less sombra games plz
Hi
As a ball player in your situation you should always use your mines defensively, if your your in a fight with low hp you should always ult in front of the payload and run for health, best case scenario, they are gonna do thier bronze magic and walk in the mines that will one shot them, worst case scenario they are gonna stop pushing shoot mines that has 2.0 or 2.5 more hp (i guess that's a 100 hp per mine) and it will gave you more than enough time to get health (assuming no sombra) and get back in the fight while they pushed nothing
1st round genji over sombra. true bronzes
nerd
I feel like if they took the damage from this vid, needed it by a little bit, and added it to the game, ball would be the best tank ever
Yeah if they gave him 3x stats he would be broken… what