Kensington Runestone Cryptography
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2012
- History teacher Howard Burtness is interviewed by Kirsten Roble. Directed and filmed by Dr. Johnathan Storlie about Burtness's research on cryptography in the Kensington Runestone and in other runestones of the period. Edited by Luther College intern Paul Armstrong with Johnathan Storlie. Produced by John Storlie.
Beautiful. Very intelligent gent.
Rune stones were typically like tomb stones. Even runes that tell a story start with something like “Ade raised this stone in honor of her dead son.” So this stone is very odd. I would feel differently if it wasn’t so out there from what ALL other rune stones say.
The Julian calendar, which is the one that Howard Burtness refers to, is different from the Gregorian calendar by 8 days. Thus, Sunday, April 24, 1362 corresponds to Sunday, May 2, 1362 in the Gregorian calendar.
I have always had a very difficult time believing a settler/farmer in the 1800s would have been familiar with the ancient Norse runic alphabet and so could have carved the Kensington Runestone. Was the runic alphabet still being used among Swedes/Norwegians at the time? I think not.
Moreover, how would he know about a rune that was only discovered in the 1930s?
+morrieg7 I have a very difficult time given the statements of friends, family and neighbors that Olaf Ohman was illiterate.
Olaf Ohman wasn't illiterate. What they meant was that he didn't know how to read or write runes. He knew they were runes, but didn't know what the stone said.
Evidently, during the first few years after the stone was found, several "experts" attempted to prove the stone was a forgery. During a visit to his farm, one of these "experts" happened to notice a book describing old Norse Runes in Olaf's house. From THAT he drew a conclusion that Olaf forged the stone. However, it was later found that there were ruines on the stone that were NOT in the book..yet those ruines WERE used during the 14th century. Also, the punch marks on the stone were originally thought to be a proof the stone was forged because investigators thought Olaf mistakenly put umlauts in the carvings. The Umlaut was not used until centuries later. BUT..just in the last few decades, punch marks similar to those on the stone, were found on the island of Gotland, just east of Sweden. So those punch marks appear to be legitimate and add further proof that the stone is real.
It's fake.
This guy is in such deep though he's making me fall asleep
Just the fact that I have no problem whatsoever in understanding everything when he reads out the text on the stone is suspicious. Usually I don't immediately understand the text of runestones, both earlier and later than this purported date.
But... if the text is actually composed sometime in the later half of the 19th century it is quite natural that I would understand it. My great-grandparents lived at that time, I have read books (in all three Scandinavic languages) printed in that era without much problem...
Good work. Very well thought out and researched. Now if someone would explain remnants of Hebrew stone tablets in North America that would be great. First one in Pennsylvania years ago and more recently along the Top Grande. These were not white Europeans like the Vikings and the Spanish. One thing about the Vikings being here I never understood was how they could be in North America for so long and not spread disease like the Spanish did and Americans as well many years later. With the Spanish arrival the War against Native Americans began and would last 400 years, ending only after Americans began spreading smallpox intentionally by giving out blankets infested with the disease. But nowdo we add or not the additional years of the Vikings presence? That's an additional 400 years.
Very likely not only the Hebrews came to North America...but the Phonecians...the Celts...the English...the Chinese...and God only know who else made it here LONG before Columbus.
The problem with your date of Sunday April 24 1362, is it was actually a Saturday.
You can verify for yourself that it was a Sunday by going to the online converters: www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1362&country=23
1362 on the Julian Calinder is Sunday Apris 24, 1362
So much for Columbus Day eh?.
Lanse aux meadows
Mr.Collins, that is only one of the many 👌👌👌 !!! All the way to the deepest of the Paraguayan jungle, close to the Paracas river. I hope the physical evidence in stone still there, not to mention that the strongest of the indigenous tribes is the one with " maritime culture ", tallest and with vestiges of mix race compared to the others, and with military weapons and names that resemble swords/lance/body armor, with names that sounds like a very old and corrupted northern/Goth language 🤔🤔🤔
Very VERY interesting. This adds ANOTHER proof (along with the "Hooked X" and the "dots" ,punched on the stone) that prove the validity of the Kensington Runestone.
There is proof, proof and proof again that this stone is a bad fake. You just desperately want to believe it's real
Blood Line. Q / 72
110% true.
I Believe the story but it was painful listening to this guy telling it.
13 and 62 are Numbers of The Almighty himself
Aren't all numbers?
Its fake, in the time 1300s hundred Sweden, they wouldnt have used numbers, to write the date or the year.Also the two small dots over the letters,to make the Ø sound, wasnt used before 1500s hundred in Sweden.
Those "umlaut" punch marks were found on gravestones, during that era, in Gotland Church yards. OBVIOUSLY they were NOT "umlauts".
Probably fake- have a open mind to it though
1362 Date. 1362 miles from Rune Stone to east or west coast is .... Miles. Go figure that land claim. Lol that
Thank you Howard Burtness for sharing your knowledge
I seriously doubt a modest farmer of the late 19th century could have created this intricate of a riddle.
I printed out a copy of the runes to try to decipher it further. I believe there is much more information encoded in the stone than a simple story.
there is no code in it, its made up to try to justify the bad writing on the stone itself. Most runestones didnt have codes in them, they were simple, either for memorial or something else.
@Alan Willis It's 100% a fake. A leading expert in the Old Norse language and religion, Jackson Crawford, has found it to be laughably fake. th-cam.com/video/aWvRtlyTaUc/w-d-xo.html
@@Mjll Lots of mis-information in that video. Even if the runestone is a fake that does not explain the dozens of Norse artifacts found in Minnesota and the Dakotas.
It's GokTurk Alphabet.
tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orhun_alfabesi
no its not they don't match up at all
lol
This guy is a bit repetitive, he must not get a lot of visitors.
When people become so involved with their work they tend to skip over details..yet ALSO repeat themselves on points they think other people don't understand. I think it makes this guy even MORE believable.
he is just calling out numbers at random. wtf
110% TRUE. PERIOD.
Theories people just stop messing with history they died out in Greenland they did nothing. Columbus changed the world so just accept it
Well we KNOW that Norse explorers DID make it to L'anse Aux Meadows in Canada (1000 AD). And they have found Leif Erickson's name carved (In Runes) off the coast of New England. So people from Greenland DID have over 400 YEARS to venture forth, into the New World to explore, before the disappearance of Norse settlements in Greenland in the mid 1400's. And since the Norse are still praised for their penchant to explore, it's hard to believe they DIDN'T, in fact, explore all these places in North America...leaving the Rune stones behind as a testament to their journeys.
@@badguy1481 these are all lies they just do all that to discredit Columbus and to mess with history but no matter how hard they try Erikson is still undermined so they just need to stop because Vikings did nothing
@@roberttorres5429 I'm afraid the evidence is increasing that the Vikings not only MADE it to North America...They explored it quite extensively. But, of course, the venture of Columbus made North American a KNOWN entity to the world, not just a few secret societies and the royalty of Scandinavia.
No one is saying Columbus didn't do what he did. No one is taking the credit away from him for bring America to the attention of Europe. But it is certainly true that knowledge of North America was common at least in Scandinavian royal circles thanks to Leif Erickson.
Ill bet she looks good in a nice dress....just saying...
Stop being a creep