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    The galaxy has entered the Age of S'Jet. But this new era has been built on the millennia that came before.
    0:00 | Introduction
    1:35 | The Progenitors
    3:04 | The First Time
    6:33 | The Bentusi
    10:27 | The Taiidan
    12:34 | The Kushan
    15:46 | The Homeworld War
    18:50 | The Hiigaran
    20:00 | The Vaygr War
    24:20 | Age of S'Jet
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  • @TemplinInstitute
    @TemplinInstitute  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Mothership standing by | bit.ly/TemplinInstituteYTHomeworld3

  • @feartheamish9183
    @feartheamish9183 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +693

    As a teenager I saw Karak burn, and the return to Higara. As a young Man I watched the seige of Higara and the age of Sejuk. Now as a man with a son I look forward to what I will see next.

    • @AlShas66
      @AlShas66 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      *age of S'jet . The ship you are thinking of is Sajuuk

    • @JB-ue6lf
      @JB-ue6lf 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      This is actually really beautiful 😭

    • @robertdrexel2043
      @robertdrexel2043 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Well said! Same here outside of having a son!

    • @Shandalt1
      @Shandalt1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Same for me! I hope you enjoy every second!

    • @mikemcghin5394
      @mikemcghin5394 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm the same but I was warrior the Beast War

  • @asertolentino9147
    @asertolentino9147 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +309

    I played an absurd amount of Homeworld and Homeworld 2 before my vision gave out and am deriving a lot of vicarious enjoyment of HW3 through your investigations. Thanks for the awesome content.

    • @chuckbuck5002
      @chuckbuck5002 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      thats terrible man i hope you're doing well.

    • @The_Lute777
      @The_Lute777 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How did you write the comment did you use brail or something

    • @umadbroimatroll7918
      @umadbroimatroll7918 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@The_Lute777 I'd say speech to text, but the fact they wrote HW3 and not homeworld 3 compared to the first 2 times they did might show otherwise. We either got a lie on our hands or someone with just partial visual impairment not full.

    • @asertolentino9147
      @asertolentino9147 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@The_Lute777 I have a Braille display on my desk but primarily work with Bluetooth keyboards paired to an iPhone to interact with TH-cam. Most of the keyboard navigation in Mac OS is the same on the iPhone, at least for someone using Apple’s VoiceOver screen reader. TTS is too cumbersome for anything with a specialized lexicon, so for a lot of work stuff or genre-related content I generally don’t even bother trying to hope dictation will figure out what I mean.

    • @asertolentino9147
      @asertolentino9147 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Sorry, speech to text like the other commenter said. Talking about assistive technology a lot, I am far more used to referring to text to speech synthesizers.

  • @Sajuuk
    @Sajuuk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +137

    Homeworld is the only tactics/strategy game I've played mainly for its storyline. It's still the best space strategy game ever made.

    • @mamba101
      @mamba101 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s story, full of tragedy and hope has endured to be my favourite story of any game. I’d go as far to say it ranks very highly when even compared to Dune.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love the story. Cataclysm was the first of the series I played and It was an amazing story to start off with. I agree that it's the best Space Strategy, the 3D movement was very intuitive. I loved this, Command and Conquer, Total Annihilation and Warzone 2100.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mamba101 It's still my favourite series because of the story too. Cataclysm and Deserts for me have the best campaigns and gameplay. It's a terrific piece of worldbuilding and has some obvious comparisons to Dune

    • @Mixppmix
      @Mixppmix 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Very good story, bud bad dialogs, have also rts called Original War

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mixppmix I have that on my steam wish list but have take the last step.

  • @kylerogers8948
    @kylerogers8948 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +199

    Homeworld: (Cataclysm) Emergence remains my top game of the series. RIP stolen Taidaan Heavy Cruiser. You carried my fleet of miners like a champion.

    • @robertdrexel2043
      @robertdrexel2043 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Laughs. How did you manage to capture a Heavy Cruiser?

    • @CharaSomtaaw
      @CharaSomtaaw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Please tell me they weren't eaten by the Beast.

    • @LordDarthHarry
      @LordDarthHarry 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      @@robertdrexel2043 Remember the mission where you have to escort the Caal-Shto through the Nebula? The final hurdle is a Heavy cruiser that you are suppose to destroy with Leeches. Well, you can pull the Leeches back once it's sufficiently damaged and then send Workers to yoink it. You can deal with it's escorting defenders either conventionally or Kamikazi a bunch of Mimics into them.
      Just be careful in the next mission with the Beast Cruise Missiles cause it can go very badly for you real quick.

    • @Mike020389
      @Mike020389 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Any missions with the beast I kept that poor bastard back, couldn't bear the thought of it becoming infected and not having many ways to stop it.

    • @kylerogers8948
      @kylerogers8948 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Final mission. I was using bomber and fighter swarms to go for the objectives as my main fleet fought off the roaming gangs of enemies. The Beast did its surprise powerslide in before I could move out of the way, and one shot the heavy cruiser about 20 minutes into the mission. It had survived every mission up until that point acting as a spearhead, a second flagship almost, and never got infected. Not until The Beast itself, the Naggarok, devoured it.

  • @GmodPlusWoW
    @GmodPlusWoW 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    The galaxy at large may have forgotten The Beast, but Kiith Somtaaw remembers.
    "Kingdom Hearts 2 has SCREWED US AGAIN!" -the captain of the Kuun-Lan, after discussing the matter with Lord Mandalore

    • @realityveil6151
      @realityveil6151 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I don't understand the reference. Like, I saw mandalore's video, so that part I understand. But what does the line "Kingdom Hearts 2 has SCREWED US AGAIN!" actually mean?

    • @GmodPlusWoW
      @GmodPlusWoW 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@realityveil6151 I don't really know either. It was just so out-of-pocket to hear the Captain of the Kuun-Lan say that in the video. I don't know if Mandy reached out to him on Fiver or something, but the Captain's delivery absolutely SLAYED.
      That all said, my guess would be a joke that Kingdom Hearts has convoluted lore or something, and the Captain was trying to piece the lore together in his spare time.

    • @madkoala2130
      @madkoala2130 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@GmodPlusWoW thats same explonation i can only think of.

    • @averagelyaverage0547
      @averagelyaverage0547 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@GmodPlusWoW its actually from an old commercial with the same VA ( i think) as the captain doing the lines. The commercial was parodying household presidential discussions by replacing the candidate names with games instead iirc

  • @thehumus8688
    @thehumus8688 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +121

    Karan S'Jet is lisan al gaib
    serriusly Homeworld and Dune music has same vibe

    • @morganfreeman-sheehy842
      @morganfreeman-sheehy842 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      As written!

    • @KingThrillgore
      @KingThrillgore 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      She didn't Lease an Al Gaib, she outright stole half the Taiidan fleet

    • @gorvarhadgarson5227
      @gorvarhadgarson5227 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Deserts of Karak is really rad, highly recommend it!

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Dune didn't have *_Yes_* doing a falsetto endtheme.....

    • @Ereshkigal616
      @Ereshkigal616 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      S'jet al Gaib!

  • @MrArbreFleuri
    @MrArbreFleuri 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +173

    Honey, cancel all my appointments for tonight, a new Templin Institute kino just dropped

  • @CommanderBohn
    @CommanderBohn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    >Riesstiu dead and the Taiidan Empire dead and fractured. Taiidan Republic actually does fare better.
    >The Beast slain by Somtaaw.
    >Makaan dead. Vaygr routed.
    Only wondering where Karan got lost...
    BTW, Homeworld Cataclysm/Emergence is Canon. Blackbird themselves stated it on Twitter/X. Mentioned it multiple times.

    • @Maddock_
      @Maddock_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’m personally wondering where the heck they put my boy Sajuuk

    • @tinatpasselepoivre
      @tinatpasselepoivre 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Probably closely studied and picked apart in a dockyard by an army of scientists

  • @nivozi1694
    @nivozi1694 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    Oh man, you gave a curt explanation by the lack of acknowledgement of that little incident called the Beast War in Homeworld 2.

    • @drakhoon
      @drakhoon 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      The fact it got mentioned at all though is appreciated

    • @447GHT
      @447GHT 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      considering the game is basically vaporware because of copyright tensions and poor stewardship, we’re lucky we even got that

    • @VaygrX
      @VaygrX 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      In the free demo of Homeworld 3 back in February, there were some little nods to Cataclysm and kinda makes it canon.
      During the tutorial some of the ships that showed up to help you had Somtaww emblems, and some ships that show up by the end of it had the beast slayer emblem.

    • @igorokinamujika2073
      @igorokinamujika2073 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@VaygrX The Somtaaw are also mentioned and their emblem shown in deserts of kharak. And parts of its lore can bee seen elsewere. All the stuff about Riestiu IV the second and the Taiidan Republic comes from the Cataclysm manual. So it is definitively canon.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@VaygrX Not only that, but the support frigates and resource controllers in HW3 look very somtaaw like as well.

  • @control4230
    @control4230 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    By far and away one of my favourite game franchises, I still have original disk version somewhere. I always found the numbers to be a bit off though. 600,000 people doesn't seem to be nearly enough to establish and maintain an empire.

    • @StofenThe1st
      @StofenThe1st 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think it kind of works since they reconsidered their Homeworld. Since the Emperor got killed in orbit they didn’t need to do any damage to the planet with ground operations. This meant that the millions living there would have been integrated into the new Hiigaran society.

  • @noahpescatore8169
    @noahpescatore8169 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I can’t believe Homeworld 3 is a thing. It’s been so long since I’ve seen this game series come back like this. I look forward to seeing what happens next for the people of Higara.

  • @Driftking305forlife
    @Driftking305forlife 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    LMAO epic you included the War of the Beast.

    • @TheFallenFaob
      @TheFallenFaob 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was wondering if they were going to add that because cataclysm isn't technically canon

    • @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
      @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@TheFallenFaob That has been speculated to be a false rumor. Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak depicted the Kiith Somtaaw clan logo in a cutscene, and even some concept art of Homeworld 3 (or might have been a cutscene) suggests the Kith Somtaaw logo now with the Beast Slayer symbol. It's a nod to Cataclysm. :)

    • @PraetorPaktu
      @PraetorPaktu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@TheFallenFaobcataclysm is cannon. The beast slayers emblem is in HW3

    • @TheFallenFaob
      @TheFallenFaob 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Kith Somtaaw was already around but it wasn't until the table top RPG homeworld Revelations came out that cataclysm was considered canon

    • @smolpp585
      @smolpp585 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheFallenFaob Cataclysm is very much canon, Revelations mentions it, you can see the beast slayer emblem in HW3 and the Beast war is even mentioned in the new VR game's storyline

  • @jujuplayboy
    @jujuplayboy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    25:47 Well, a weird way to learn her death for me ! ^^
    (Secretly I'm glad to know she won't be the protagonist of ANOTHER Homeworld game).

    • @henrycooper3431
      @henrycooper3431 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well you are just meeting her daughter now

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Tbh I never thought, in 2024 I would get a sequel to one of my fave games of all time. In the quarter century since getting that first beta disc and the subsequent three games, my reflexes are not what they used to be but I am so happy to come back to this universe.

    • @Nagrachlp
      @Nagrachlp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Last two years we're awesome for old gamers. BG3... Another Baldurs Gate, another entry in the series that wrote the Rules of cRPGs and ... Made them Mainstream again? JA3..jagged alliance 3... IT got the JA Feeling Back! And now homeworld 3, haven't finished IT yet but ITS damn good so far.

  • @Drave_Jr.
    @Drave_Jr. 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Makaan wasn't killed at the Battle of the Balcorra Gate, he was killed at the Battle of Balcorra

  • @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
    @cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    There is a fantastic fan theory that the Progenitors are the people of Earth that expanded throughout the universe.
    Also, I wonder if we will see the Beast again but mutated to be even more dangerous.

    • @kenserhoofje
      @kenserhoofje 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Beast is not canon unfortunately:( best storyline and characters IMO

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      ​@@kenserhoofjeWdym? They've said it's Canon in the new VR game and we have the Beast slayer logo in HW3

    • @AllTheguillerub2001
      @AllTheguillerub2001 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      The fact that the progenitors are human (or at least, that they brought the humans from earth to the homeworld galaxy) is basically canon. The homeworld galaxy is NOT the milky way, but another real galaxy, and every faction known (kushans, taiidans, vaygr) are at least partially human. The only race known to possess the capability of intergalactic travel to bring humans from the milky way are the progenitors. There are additional clues: for example, in homeworld 2, when activating the progenitor dreadnaught, s'jet comments that their systems are very similar to their own

    • @charless1145
      @charless1145 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate humans as a progenitor species. It's lazy storytelling

  • @lemmonsinmyeyes
    @lemmonsinmyeyes 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Sajuk is just the name of the defense contractor slapped on the side of the hyperdrive. Like Lockheed or Mitsubishi lol

  • @anonymousrex5207
    @anonymousrex5207 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Homeworld is still one of the greatest franchises in video game history and is still a fun game to play all these years later.

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly6873 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    All this lore from a game that couldn't get the license to Battlestar Galactica. So they filed the serial numbers off and mashed it up with Dune.
    Brilliant.

  • @MonitorMono
    @MonitorMono 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Been waiting for Templin to cover more about Homeworld for a long while! But still, I hope Marc's health has been improving =w=

  • @marcusmanchester7095
    @marcusmanchester7095 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Homeworld is the series I've always wanted to play, but kicks my butt so hard I can't get past the tutorials on easy.

    • @andrewjennings7306
      @andrewjennings7306 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try low difficulty maybe?

    • @marcusmanchester7095
      @marcusmanchester7095 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@andrewjennings7306 tell me you didn't read my comment without telling me you didn't read my comment.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'll admit that my 20 year old brain could handle things far better than when replayed it during the remaster. It has adaptive difficulty rather than set units. If you are too bold or too efficient it will lay the smackdown on you. On my first playthrough of HW1 i scraped through the missions. On a later playthrough I captured a Heavy Cruiser and took it to the next mission. When I explored the nebula I found 4 heavy cruisers waiting for me. If you can get hold of Cataclysm (Emergence) it has the best structured campaign.

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Bring Sajuuk to bear, Bring Sajuuk to bear, BRING SAJUUK TO BEAR!!!

    • @realityveil6151
      @realityveil6151 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do we know if the bear ever got his Sajuuk?

  • @TheInedibleHulk
    @TheInedibleHulk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    *Long live the BEAST!*

  • @Frell1982
    @Frell1982 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice cliffhanger, thanks for the refresher of Homeworlds Lore!

  • @maeror1022
    @maeror1022 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When its all nicely summarised like this, the story of Homeworld 1-3 truly is an epic tale of tragedy, conquest and discovery.

  • @KedaiCiplak
    @KedaiCiplak 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HW Cataclysm/Emergence is still the most unique RTS game I ever played and will always remember.
    Remember THE BEAST.

  • @j_fantajay
    @j_fantajay 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    5TH TRY: ADVENT Administration

    • @chuckbuck5002
      @chuckbuck5002 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I second this

  • @Trubripes
    @Trubripes 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This series inspired my entire career in Neuroscience XD.

  • @Azathoth2980
    @Azathoth2980 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This transmission received from 1999 is now hit another milestone in decryption. Being among the first to worship Sajuuk. we have a unique experience with the time between each installment truly feels like the vast expanse of history.

  • @Pegeon030
    @Pegeon030 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I CAN'T wait to play Homeworld 3, i may not have been there since the release of Homeworld 1 but I've pkayed the remastered, Deserts of khara. The lore, the univerese of Homeworld is just so good, the ship designs, the lorenof each race or the khitids, the music is just sooooo *chef's kiss* Though it may take a while to try the game due to financial reasons but i cant wait till i try the game out.

  • @ceejayone76
    @ceejayone76 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this, the most complete story on youtube, well done!

  • @solice55
    @solice55 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very clever reference to Homeworld: Cataclysm, which was a spinoff game made by a third party. The records of those events in that game were "sealed" and are top secret, and the franchise has basically pretended it never happened. It was nice to see the reference.

  • @Beastly89
    @Beastly89 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice short reminder about Homeworld Cataclysm.
    And I know, they said it's canon (some say it's not) and that the story is wierd with Cataclysm story included.
    But, my own head canon is, that yes they suppresed the details about the Beast Infection, because the Kushan/Hiigarans just returned home and promised things will be different and better.
    Only moments later to unleash something that could have destroyed the entire galaxy.
    Like someone who crashed cars multiple times, being put on the sidelines and when they say they got better at driving, crashes the car immediately.
    Pretty sure the other factions would have been like : "Yeah, you're going on exile again."

  • @NeedyWolf
    @NeedyWolf 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I'm glad the whole beast conflict was just a footnote...

    • @StofenThe1st
      @StofenThe1st 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Man not gonna lie, probably don’t want to see them in a modern game. Hearing the screams of crewmen as a ship gets converted into a meat missile would probably get this game an m rating.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StofenThe1st I've said in a few comments that Cataclysm was the first of the series I played. The screams for help were chilling and got me emotionally invested in the game.

  • @HitodamaKyrie
    @HitodamaKyrie 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I guess they delayed the game for my sake cause it's coming out on my birthday and I am pretty hyped to play.
    Maybe I can represent some kiith Paktu. "I can smell the sea. it's only a little farther."

  • @fmzaidi2001
    @fmzaidi2001 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bought a copy! Awesome refresher and cant wait to play it

  • @KonzaCelt
    @KonzaCelt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's interesting that the first game (HW1) not only made no mention of Sajuuk or the Progenitors (and not really any religious themes either), but also didn't include the 3 Far-Jump cores at all. Originally the core the Kushan (ex-Hiigaran) used to get off the planet was just a regular hyperspace core with no real significance beyond letting them leave their planet. The story of HW1 was decidedly non-mythical and devoid of any 'special' ancient tech.
    It was HW2 that added all of the mythical ancient history to the Homeworld 'verse, as well as changing the core the Kushan found on their planet from a regular core to one of the 3 special Far-Jump cores. And Deserts of Kharak really bent the otherwise hard science of HW1 into one steeped in religion and myth. The narrative differences between HW1 and the rest (can't speak for Cataclysm) are actually quite remarkable.
    Personally I wish they had stayed with the HW1 narrative, it was much more reliant on basic science and Kushan ingenuity to move the plot forward. I still like HW2 and Deserts, but I think the religious and mythic themes were not really necessary and dumb-down the whole narrative. I'd rather they had just stuck with the hard science and not this 'ancient holy tech' mumbo jumbo.

  • @KingThrillgore
    @KingThrillgore 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    So is this the end of the "Is Cataclysm/Emergence canon" argument if Gearbox paid you to make this?

    • @PraetorPaktu
      @PraetorPaktu 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      HW Cataclysm has been cannon for a while now, the Beast slayers emblem is in HW3

  • @mingchoi8369
    @mingchoi8369 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Universe looks interesting, hope we’ll see more videos on Homeworld.

  • @Shamai36
    @Shamai36 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    amazing job!!

  • @BePatient888
    @BePatient888 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video has to be mandatory watching before playing Homeworld 3! Than you Templin Institute for your great work here.

  • @cmdraftbrn
    @cmdraftbrn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    homeworld: you're not of this world
    homeworld catalysm: does not exist because bizzard
    homeworld 2: you're going to get wrekked repeatedly

  • @KnowNoLimit001
    @KnowNoLimit001 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Missed an important fact, they found materials that were not from the solar system, which gave them the backings and made them pursue the primary anomaly, thus finding the hyperspace core.

  • @eddy2922
    @eddy2922 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, thx ☺️

  • @nawewan
    @nawewan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome video :D :D love the HW series

  • @marcobellanti1786
    @marcobellanti1786 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always thought that Sajuuk was a terraformer. It was hilarious to me that your stronger warship, like a thousand time better than everything you had, was a Progenitor’s tractor 🤣 , even if homeworld is not very consistent with progenitor’s tech

  • @Tarotb
    @Tarotb 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Never liked abandoning the mothership in the last mission of homeworld 2; she'd got us through the whole game, but then got tossed aside because we had an upgrade?

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well we needed Sajuuk urgently to save Hiigara. But I do feel bad for leaving it behind. But without a hyperspace core we couldn't have recovered it anyway

    • @Tarotb
      @Tarotb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@admiralmallard7500 oh I agree. It was justified in universe but on a meta level it was disappointing to see the ship that'd got me through the game get cast aside for something that looked like a dead branch.
      Besides I thought the reason the three cores were so powerful was because they could summon other ships too them; that's what I thought the pre-exile Bentusi seemed to be doing, at least.

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Tarotb Bentusi only ever had 1 core but I see your point, makes the moment more dramatic though.
      Another factor is without Karan the mothership doesn't really work other than being a giant space station.

    • @Tarotb
      @Tarotb 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@admiralmallard7500 true: sorry somehow I had the idea a core could pull ships from elsewhere to your location, but no matter, I still wish we could have pulled the mothership into the final mission. Maybe send her off by having her act as a barrier for the world ender missiles.

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh absolutely, I feel bad for leaving it behind

  • @LoneTiger
    @LoneTiger 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There's a perfectly usable and salvageable mothership drifting near a black hole cluster where Sajuuk was found, why the heck no one has sent a team to recover it? A fully working mothership with foundries and shipyards ready to be put in use would be an amazing asset. 🙀

    • @henrycooper3431
      @henrycooper3431 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Vaygr are too fractured to do that and i dont think Higaara needed it since the mothership no longer has a hyperdrive core?

    • @LoneTiger
      @LoneTiger 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@henrycooper3431 True, but no core doesn't stop everything else from working or from towing the ship, think of it, how long it takes to build one mothership, just discarding it, is insane in so many levels. Food for thought, in HW Cataclysm prologue in the manual, they used the 1st mothership as an orbital shipyard around Higara after the war to rebuild the home fleet. ✌

    • @henrycooper3431
      @henrycooper3431 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LoneTiger yeah she would have been such a good shipyard to have

  • @Coalition2298qy.
    @Coalition2298qy. 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Can you Please make videos on homeworld deserts of kharak

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    All of this has happened before... All of this shall happen again...

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the remaster

  • @captainzac24
    @captainzac24 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There's something special about playing from desperate desert coalition to pan-galactic powerhouse

  • @void2258
    @void2258 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The Beast War barely gets a mention :(

    • @PraetorPaktu
      @PraetorPaktu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We are lucky it even got mentioned at all. :(

  • @austinguthrie5528
    @austinguthrie5528 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As always, I am always a fan of the villains. The bad guys get all the cool stuff and got that villain swag, lol. The Galceans and Vaygr are no different. And these new guys looks like a combination of the Taiidan and the Vaygr. So looking forward to H3

  • @astaroth7188
    @astaroth7188 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love this universe

  • @jonathanamsberry3971
    @jonathanamsberry3971 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video! Thank you for putting it togeather! I have only played HW 1, 2 and Deserts, but loved the games. I personally really did not like the feel of HW3, but I am excited to see where they take the story!

  • @eetenn
    @eetenn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Just a few more days!!!

  • @TurKlack
    @TurKlack 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    A bit of a shame the Developers apparently removed the Beast from History. I mean they are annihilated and that is good so, but the journey of the Kith Somtaw and their Warship Kunlan sure is a nice story.

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's still Canon though?

    • @TurKlack
      @TurKlack 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@admiralmallard7500 I dunno.
      As far as I know, the main line games pretend the Beast Arc never happened and only mention the Kith Somtaw once or twice in Homeworld 2.

    • @admiralmallard7500
      @admiralmallard7500 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TurKlack True but the beast war has been mentioned in the VR game now and the Beast hunter emblem is in HW3

  • @kanesoban
    @kanesoban 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The artstyle of the 'UI' of the templin institute is very similar to the UI in Hw2

  • @user-cg4kl4dp4p
    @user-cg4kl4dp4p 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love this game

  • @short72hp1
    @short72hp1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Already have my copy :)😊

  • @alphadraconis9898
    @alphadraconis9898 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Templin and Gearbox for sorta making Cataclysm canon!

  • @toecutter9372
    @toecutter9372 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is awesome! I love lore! I love Homeworld! I love lamp!

  • @Drasoini
    @Drasoini 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kiith Somtaaw stands ever ready. The Beast will find no easy prey should it reappear!

  • @nikkotan2840
    @nikkotan2840 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have always thought that the lack of City Ruins or other habitable structures left behind by the Progenitors signified that they were part of a larger fleet or armada building outposts and hyperplane gates throughout the universe. When they arrived in the Whirlpool Galaxy, they likely conducted research and scanned known sectors while building jump gates and hyper gates in various parts of the galaxy, much like the Ancient Lanteans in Stargate. However, something must have spooked them or interrupted their survey, and they left suddenly, leaving many of their megastructures incomplete or partially finished.
    These incomplete structures degraded over thousands of years and were eventually discovered by the homeworld races, such as the Bentusi, who were the first interstellar civilization to travel the Whirlpool Galaxy. The fact that all races in the galaxy are human suggests that the Progenitors may have seeded life using their genome as a template.
    While the Progenitors were only a Type 2 civilization, which is inferior to the Forerunner Type 3.8/9 civilization in HALO, or the Megalithic Enigmatic civilization in Mass Effect Andromeda, which is a Type 3.0/1 civilization, they should have left behind remnants of their civilization, such as cities or space habitats throughout the galaxy.

    • @deviantMystro
      @deviantMystro 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Where are you coming up with the these type # civilizations?

    • @nikkotan2840
      @nikkotan2840 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@deviantMystro In the realm of hypothetical science, it is widely accepted that advanced civilizations can be grouped into three types based on their ability to build and generate energy to sustain their civilization.
      Type 1 civilizations possess the ability to control everything in their world by utilizing advanced technology similar to that depicted in Star Trek. Type 2 civilizations, on the other hand, possess the capability of constructing Megastructures and generating colossal amounts of energy by means such as the Progenitor. Finally, the most advanced Type 3 civilizations can build Gigastructural Objects, comprehend the fundamental Laws of Physics and other Laws of the Universe, travel through Intragalactic Space, and manipulate their Home Galaxy or other Galaxies at will, reminiscent of the Forerunners.
      There are undoubtedly more advanced types of civilizations, which can only be described as god-like ancient races. I can cite a few examples like the Xeelee from the Xeelee Sequence Novel (a Type 5 or 6 Civilization), The Precursors from HALO (a Type 8 to 10 Civilization), or The Downstreamers from The Manifold Trilogy Novel (a Type 11 to 15 Civilization). Nonetheless, I won't delve too deeply into these civilizations, as they are way beyond our understanding.
      "At least hypothetically."

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Why is It called homeworld 3 and not giant blue banana/croissant in space?

    • @kavamalekava6556
      @kavamalekava6556 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Because in Homeworld one you could choose one of 2 factions to play entire game as Kushan or Taiidan. So in theory they there interchangeable. And only real difference I remember was one support ship drone or shield frigate and design of ships.

  • @UpcycleShoesKai
    @UpcycleShoesKai 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cataclysm is canon now, yayyyy

  • @hoffenwurdig1356
    @hoffenwurdig1356 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    20:00 Comparing the Vaygr from Homeworld with the *Vargr* in Marc Miller's Traveller RPG (1977-present) yields interesting results. The latter, a decentralized civilization of canine-like creatures, also have a raiding culture. They possess an instinctive focus on personal magnetism and charisma, which they refer to in the Gvegh language as kfaegzoukhin. Vargr seek to improve kfaegzoukhin for self-actualization as they interact with foreign beings, seek a good position in the social order, try to find mates, and attempt to influence their peers.

  • @Pimikielewicz
    @Pimikielewicz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have used a Turanic Raiders music theme when telling a Progenitors story, while The Progenitors have their own music theme.
    Regardless, thank you for this video.

  • @user-dh6nf8js6c
    @user-dh6nf8js6c 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Karan's immortality isn't quite because of the Second Core, it was a result of her process of becoming 'Unbound', as all Navigators are, but yes, becoming Unbound is required in order to interface properly with the cores. The Bentusi were considered to be an 'Unbound species'.

  • @ShinigamiStefan
    @ShinigamiStefan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love me some homeworld lore !

  • @pierre-mariecaulliez6285
    @pierre-mariecaulliez6285 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    13:50 "Before an era of scientific progress and logical thought"
    I.E. Before Kiith S'Jet curbstomped everyone into stopping their wars and forcibly forming a council of nations !

    • @ptajimura
      @ptajimura 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was Kiith Nabaal

    • @pierre-mariecaulliez6285
      @pierre-mariecaulliez6285 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ptajimura You sure ? to me Nabaal only came to the forefront AFTER the discovery, since everyone suddenly needed spaceships, the shipbuilding Kiith became a powerhouse overnight...
      S'jet however was the scientific Kiith. During the religious wars, they were only known for showing up to besieged cities and asking for books so they wouldn't be destroyed. THEN they showed up using gunpowder when everyone were still fighting with swords, and subsequently put all the religious Kiith in agreement that they didn't want to get stomped !

    • @ptajimura
      @ptajimura 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 according to official history, Nabaal got tired of Heresy Wars and started a unification conquest, offering technology to towns that surrendered and agreed to stop participating in heresy wars.

  • @perkydrop6378
    @perkydrop6378 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "We are being overrun!"

  • @markborst5630
    @markborst5630 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was 16 when Homeworld 1 was released. Homeworld 2 I was 20. Both I played with my older borther. Homeworld was one of things that formed our bond. He sadly died in 2020 unexpectedly.
    Now I am 41 and are totally ready for this. I never play games anymore, but to honour my brother I am gonna play Homeworld 3 until every last Ru is mined and ship is captured. I will bring Sajuuk to bear! Rest in peace my brother.

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm not sure that there's a lot of different _species_ in the Homeworld galaxy. Everyone we've seen so far was some variety of human. Taiidan, Hiigaran, probably the Bentusi and all the others too. Everyone looks like a human maybe with some odd skin tones here and there. I'm pretty sure the Progenitors were human as well, and all the other nations are their direct descendants. The only genuine non-human alien intelligence in the series was the Beast...

    • @CarlitoAnimacoesStudios
      @CarlitoAnimacoesStudios 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They wanted to purge the Galaxy from the human scourge that infested it

  • @michaelgray6429
    @michaelgray6429 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have yet to get into the homeworld games universe but it is on my list.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If were you I would be tempted to play Deserts of Kharak first. It a newer game but the first chronologically, I think it has an awesome campaign even though Homeworld is mainly known for space combat.

  • @woohan6430
    @woohan6430 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wasn’t tracking a home world 3 game.
    But I’m not preordering or doing early access anymore
    I’ll wait a few months for all the bugs to get ironed out.

  • @charlesballiet7074
    @charlesballiet7074 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i really hope the 13 ep of homeworld has some sort of story to tell.

  • @mattwoodard2535
    @mattwoodard2535 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    While the early Hiigs were not the good guys, the Taiidan were real SOB's and also more or less controlled the Galactic Council in the early days. The Hiigs were being depowered and screwed over which is why they attacked the Taiidan homeworld. sm

  • @Kaiju-Driver
    @Kaiju-Driver 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice.

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman957 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kiith Somtaaw would like to remind everyone to not go rooting around in ancient tech if they don't know what they're doing.

  • @thetyler101
    @thetyler101 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What do the other "species" in homeworld look like? We have only ever seen the human looking higarans.

  • @cocacola4blood365
    @cocacola4blood365 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Things got screwy, so Karan went to see the manager.

  • @dukoth6552
    @dukoth6552 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    after 20 years, we're finally coming home

  • @ardvark8699
    @ardvark8699 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Fleet Command, Online

  • @coolguygaming76
    @coolguygaming76 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I understand why home world cataclysm isn’t cannon but that doesn’t mean I can’t still miss it.

  • @nikkotan2840
    @nikkotan2840 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vagyr Ships Propulsion where protected by 2 huge blast doors which in genius and a tactical advantage during space battles if u ask me.

  • @Arbiterjim
    @Arbiterjim 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't like how they made intergalactic travel possible. Storytellers never really seem to understand how immense a galaxy actually is. Sure, we have a gate network to get us around but it would still take hundreds of thousands of years to consider even a single galaxy as 'explored'.
    You don't need a new galaxy in the story, the galaxy you already have is big enough

    • @AlexanderosD
      @AlexanderosD 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed,
      opening up into intergalactic travel is almost too large of a scale.
      The story has to keep upping itself and starts spilling over into even more absurd levels of story telling in order to match the vastness and grandeur it's trying to cover.
      Just like a story being told over a series of books, you start out with a small village origin and end up with a global sized overarching story that tries to encapsulate every nation and every character and the story can end up lost in the constant expanding.

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    23:27 I'm just now realizing Vagyr sounds a lot like Vader.😮

  • @MartianTechAdept
    @MartianTechAdept 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Neat

  • @RamdomView
    @RamdomView 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Placing all bets on the Anomaly's identity here!

  • @andrasfischer3778
    @andrasfischer3778 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i have on question left why thy scraped Sajuk ?? just why Thy had the bigest Progenitor Ship in the galaxi whit a phasd aray that can on shot most enemy ship why did thy had to scrap it and put the cores intos tha Car Sajuk ? and What hapend to the progenitor Dreadnought ?

  • @kelariusable
    @kelariusable 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait, so are the events of Cataclysm/Emergence considered somewhat canon now?

    • @henrycooper3431
      @henrycooper3431 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Apperently you met 2 carriers in a demo gameplay, one of which have the Beast Slayer emblem on their hull? I didnt play it so take this info with a grain of salt

  • @chilliewhk
    @chilliewhk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope the extra time that BBI took will pay off. Homeworld 3 has a huge story to live up to

  • @chrishughes-adair1319
    @chrishughes-adair1319 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you haven't already you should do a cataclysm video (screw you blizzard) great game and story and deserves more than just a foot note.
    I hope the bentusi return.

    • @felipeaugustobatista6444
      @felipeaugustobatista6444 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Some escaped to another galaxy during Cataclysm so a few at least are out there somewhere.

  • @linuscarlssonsoderlind6746
    @linuscarlssonsoderlind6746 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I should play the Homeworld games again...

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's curious how in sci-fi titles such Homeworld and Halo etc, there are these ancient and long forgotten highly advanced civilizations. All accomunated by the same traits with small differences.
    In Homeworld for example Progenitors, thought the use of such Hyperspace cores, are able to travel through the while galaxy in an instant. And this might look more advanced.
    But Forerunners too, that looks apparently less advanced since their hyperspace technology takes days or even weeks to travel the same distances, is able to move much more than simple ships.
    Imnense megastructures can be moved and if the Forerunners wanted, they could have moved even planets or stars since the mass they was able to drive was of that scale.
    It might be the space (speculation) also for the Progenitors.
    But still both these civilizations are no match for the (Halo) civilization of the Precursors.
    Not only able to seed the whole universe and create life from nothing, but even able to move objects of immense mass (or create them from nothing) through both space and hyperspace in instants with their hyper advanced technology.
    I'm definitely fashinated and partially obsessed with such advanced and lost civilizations... that's also why I'm a bit disappointed with Homeworld 3... No explanations given about the Progenitors.
    Maybe the developers have yet to "develop" anything concrete about such important piece of the puzzle? It's unrealistic, otherwise their games will show incongruences about the ruins and the technology showed in the game.
    So they have just decided to not show anything new.
    And ok, maybe this means they will make an "Homeworld 4"... but it's better if they will do what it takes to end the cycle.

  • @theanimated6845
    @theanimated6845 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Me when i burn the carrots. " Karak is burning "

  • @unkn0wnv1rus3
    @unkn0wnv1rus3 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By any chance could you make videos about Armored Core Universe?

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On June 10, 2022 it was revealed that Homeworld 3 has been delayed to the first half of 2023 and on August 23, during the Gamescom the first gameplay trailer was released. In May 2023, the game was delayed to February 2024. On December 1, 2023, Gearbox announced that the game would be released on March 8, 2024. On February 7, 2024, the developers stated the release would be delayed to May 13.