There's nothing worse than feeling totally vulnerable on your bike, I felt so awful seeing you cry, we've all had close passes but when you get so many in one ride it's scary, not being bratty!!!!! We love you and please take care of yourself xx
@@iann23 so not true, she excels in joy on the bike 99% of the time, I know like most cyclists how awful close passes can be, it's scary, I'm glad she shares her experiences with us, good and bad x
@@238949 I watched through her videos now due to your feminist outburst attack on men here, and he was right, she does cry all of the time, and the whole channel is about her neurosis, and nothing is really about biking but her needs to play out dramas online.. I came for the bike experience but was forced to stay for jerking off to a sexy woman crying and being neurotic on. a bike with big sad eyes ... ha ha ha.. you women are so horrible... you always lie and pretend to get attention... yikes...this is not about biking. is a form of only fans' fetish.
What you describe is something only a road cyclist can really appreciate, to regularly be an inch or two away from a serious accident with potentially life changing/ending consequences can overwhelm a person's emotions. I wish more motorists could appreciate this.
I agree but they seem to have a different level of risk. Even if they were on a bike they wouldn't take a close pass as anything to stress about. They accept risk like its a matter of course and kind of laugh at people who don't think the same as them.
Exactly. I think it would be helpful if everyone who takes a driving test has to ride a bike and have an instructor drive past closely to experience what's it's like.
@@BoomsRiddico4868 I think they would be equally stressed by an idiot passing a few inches from them. I think many have absolutely no idea what it feels like.
@@BoomsRiddico4868 They would. People do it because they don't think its dangerous and they have never experienced it for the most part. Very very few people don't get any fear when someone passes them way too close. You would have the same thing if someone flew past you that close when you were walking.
Hi Katie, I'm very sorry about your stress on the road. Close car passes are usual in Italy because Italian car drivers HATE cyclists. I am a cyclist and i ride on road near Rome. Here is much worse then in Dolomites. We risk our life every time we ride bicycle . I decided to buy a Gravel bike instead of a road bike to avoid this dangerous situations. Even the Police and Carabinieri don't protect us, according to them we are a BIG problem. Unfortunately, the law of the strongest and biggest applies on Italian roads like in the Jungle. Have nice ride and journey. Forza Katie!!! Sei forte!!!🤟🤟 Roberto
I'm an Italian cyclist from Friuli region (not far from where this video was shot) and I lived in Rome for three years. I can confirm in Rome it's much worse, I felt like risking my life every morning pedaling to work. I only kept cycling as a political stand, it wasn't pleasant at all. Now I live in Manhattan and still I feel that drivers behavior towards cyclists is worse in Italy, with the exception of The Bronx, there I feel even less safe than in Italy when I ride.
I recommend a series on cycling USA coast to coast made by Italian cyclist (from Milan) Pietro Franzese. He was surprised at how respectful American drivers have been th-cam.com/play/PLfDaNE_VUo2BXAYrJUiwEghBZ69yGklRw.html
I feel your pain. I have pulled over and had a breakdown as well. Your emotions are honest and genuine. It is part of who you are and the content you share. I am sorry your trip has been adversely affected by so many rude and dangerous motorists.
Italian here: I'm really sorry for what you went through. Unfortunatley, we get used to being abused (and often killed) by idiotic drivers here. What's worse, just like in other countries, cyclists are seen as a bunch of irresponsible morons that should be working instead of riding their bikes around. Makes no sense: Italy has an amazing biking history, with quite a few revered athletes... I've lived here for almost forty years, I still don't get were this disrespect comes from
Katie I’m in Italy bikepacking this week and the roads are horrendous. Never again! Agree I’ve drivers wanting to intimidate- I can’t believe how consistently bad it is
Thank you Katie. Your experience, generously shared with us, brings me a lot of gratitude. Gratitude for being authentic when I feel low and gratitude for the growing trust in the next corner.
The best route in Italy (and probably one of the best in the world) is The Alpe Adria Cycle Path. Seriously stunning and the best part is the Italian leg is practically all traffic free on glorious cycle paths going up mountains and tunnels. I've hiked a few times in the Dolomites, but would never cycle on those roads.
Thank you for sharing those wonderful perspectives and travel experiences. Your candor about how such incidents can disrupt a love or passion for cycling is appreciated. The frustration, upset, and annoyance are understandable. It's frightening that a person driving a motorized vehicle can cause harm to other road users. I've also had experiences of being forced off the road while cycling on public roads in North America. It just makes the encounter shade some of the enjoyment. As you mentioned, it's not every driver, and there's no desire to demonize other road users. I know you have a very strong will keep on cycling. I really enjoy your channel.
There is a thing in flying called "I've got to get there"-itis and it can be lethal. Katie, you are a very experienced rider. You know when it's safe and when it isn't. Never ride if you don't feel safe. If you have to cut a ride short cut it short. We'll get to see you on your next ride. Stay safe!
The best you can do in regards to your own safety,when you can't control what other road users are doing then is time to evaluate the situation,you made the right decision Katie, tomorrows another day,take care 😎
Thanks for telling it how it is Katie. It’s horrible when your peace of mind is affected and you are genuinely frightened. It’s bizarre that Italian drivers hate cyclists when Italy has such a proud cycling history and culture. Thank goodness that France and Spain are safe to cycle in and just as magnificent!
Italy used to have a proud cycling culture. Here in Tuscany where I am currently living, I never see any cyclists around the town where I live and am lucky if I see a cyclist or 2 on Sunday rides. Never used to be like this.
Italy is very car centric, and with this political enviroment there is no hope things will improve soon, the governament is actually trying to get rid of speed cameras and lowering speed limits, the traffic code here impose a distance of 1.5m to pass a cyclist but drivers don't give a fuck because there won't be consequences unless they actually hit you and even in that case good luck with finding the perpetrator. By the way one of the last close passes I got was by a local police's car, local police in italy mainly deal with traffic violations.
I ve spend 10 days in Laco di como.I m french.I understand completely your sensation.I drove during my stay, and I was a pedestrian too, and I have never been so afraid of being a pedestrian. The Italians do not respect "protected crossings", it's terrifying. I will never risk cycling on their roads. Bravo to you, you are splendid🙂
Just wanna reach through the screen and give you a big hug! It’s very unsettling when you have close calls. I’ve driven in most countries in Europe and I’d say Italian drivers are certainly among the most aggressive and impatient. The most important thing is that you’re ok. But it’s really unfortunate that it shook your confidence and it’s probably no jaded an iconic region for you. Hopefully you’ll have an amazing experience with a TON of like minded people tomorrow. Adore you for being real and telling it like it really is. The Good, The Bad and the Ugly….it’s all part of the experience for better or for worse. Have an amazing day tomorrow and let that one fill your memories ❤
I live in the American state of Ohio. Every time I go for a ride, 5 to 10 drivers come very close to me. Last week, while riding my motorcycle, a car passed me in my lane, hitting my elbow and forcing me off into a field of grass. Twenty years ago, it was very rare when someone passed me too close. Today, it is all the time. Many people in America have become angry and impatient. They would rather endanger a cyclist's life than wait for oncoming traffic to pass before going around a cyclist. I hope the rest of your trip will be much better.
It’s an interesting paradox given the roads are much more narrow in Europe but they’re used to cyclists a lot more also whereas herein the states roads are so much wider given the dumb a$s regulations having to do with the fire/emergency services vehicles are huge.
This is true in Canada too. No patience at all. The UK is pretty good overall, and it certainly doesn't have the reputation of Spain or France regarding driver courtesy.
I'm a beginner cyclist and this happens to me every time or almost I go out for a ride, maybe not as close as in your Dolomites experience but close enough I start crying or sometimes shouting at the drivers. I can't seem to get used to it. (Rural France). I just got a home trainer and will be trying zwift. But I obviously would prefer to ride outside in a safe way.
The roads in Italy are extremely narrow and Italians drive extremely fast for them. So you have to travel in groups so the cars will give you the amount of space needed. Also, Italian drivers never leave the horn alone.
I feel your pain, have cycled from Munich to Rome and as much as Italy was my highlight few first days were mentally draining, no shoulders on the road and as long as you are going fast the drivers give you space and wait for the opportunity to over pass, the moment you climbing slow they overtake you in minimal space, what helped me a bit Garmin Varia radar, so i haven't been surprised
@Katie never nice to have that close passes feeling, but I think it is due to be a very busy and touristic. Hopefully nothing happened! Stay strong! Great views apart from the weather. Thanks for sharing! This is on my list.
I started riding on streets & roads on Christmas Day of 1967, & it’s been a long 57 yrs of looking over my shoulder since. After more than 55 yrs it was an illegally derestricted ebike on a multi-use path that put me in a hospital. Our federal ADA overrides local law to an extent, but predating electric wheelchairs & other powered mobility devices as it does, our local code prohibits any form of a powered conveyance on the paths - but that’s a different story. In the States “punishment passes” & brushoffs are common. There’s something about an adult on a bike that sets people off, & the ones who will literally run & hide if you chase them down & confront them are the worst. Here’s what I’ve learned will mitigate problems as much or more than any other thing you can do: 1. Highly visible clothing or kit. I ride in cargo shorts & a t-shit, but the t-shirts are high-vis safety yellow things made for road crews & deck hands & the like. 2. Daytime lights front & rear with good exposures to both sides. 3. Asserting yourself with traffic. I make a 220 lb high-vis goof on a lit-up bike of myself, & take the lane at will. When using lights in particular, people seem to understand that there will be no excuse for hitting me. They follow further back until they can safely pass, then give me the entire lane when they do. They don’t left or right hook as readily as they otherwise might, & they don’t just take my turn to go at 4-way stops, etc. Part of that is my age, part of it is my size & strength, & part of it is clearly the fact that I’m leaving absolutely no space for a claim that I wasn’t seen. I personally think lights are of equal value day or night, & at this point I just don’t ride without them. Take Care. 👍
One of the things that I most like about you Katie is that you tell it like it is. Your experience confirms my suspicions for some time about what it would be like to cycle on the mountainous roads in Italy. Having driven in Italy on two occasions, I've both witnessed and experienced agressive and close driving. As a car driver it was unsettling. As a cyclist it must be absolutely terrifying. Just watching that procession of Porsches drive past you as you talked into the camera at the top of a col left me in no doubt that you are just one small step away from being hit by a car in that place. Come back home safely Katie x
That should have been a highlight of your trip. The Dolomites are magical. I rode through in 1985 and '86 and had no issues with traffic. I can well imagine things are way worse now for traffic and your account confirms what I suspected. In the local mountains where I live the weekend traffic on narrow roads makes cycling hazardous. There are so many more motorists today. Sad to say it's the new reality.
Hey @KatieKookaburra, I’m really glad to see a video where you openly discuss these issues of bad and dangerous driving. As cyclists, no matter what kind of cycling we do-racing, touring, ultra-distance, commuting, errands, or just for fun-we are often, if not always, put at risk on the roads. This is a global issue, affecting cyclists everywhere, whether in the UK, France, or anywhere else in the world. I’ve recently binge-watched many of your videos, which are fantastic, but I had hoped you would mention these concerns from time to time. Of course, we all understand that it's more enjoyable to focus on your adventures without the need to rant about bad driving, and that makes sense. So, I’m really glad you decided to speak up about it in this video because dangerous drivers are something we face on nearly every ride. This is something that puts off my partner from commuting for example. Believe me, you're not alone in feeling upset after close passes - it's something many of us experience, and your feelings are completely valid. Thanks for opening up 👏 By the way, I live near Mont Ventoux, and my personal highlight of my "cycling career" has been climbing it via Sault. Huge congrats on completing it via all three routes and earning the "cinglé" title! Your fitness level is truly amazing 💪. Best regards, Ben (from France)
I don’t consider this complaining. I see it as a public service announcement. It’s really important to let people know about the reality of riding bikes in this area. At least if people decide to ride there they will be prepared for the possible dangers. Bravo!
I understand you completely! I think every cyclist experiences this type of driving but in Italy it almost feels like its a type of sport to see how close they can get. Chin up!
So sorry for your experience with the car culture.. After decades of road riding, I got fed up with battling cars. So at 65, I switched to gravel riding. Ditched clip in shoes too and the lycra😅. Living in the Pacific NW of the U.S. We are blessed with thousands of miles of gravel.
What you describe is exactly like riding rural roads in parts of the US. Mostly "kids" in huge trucks passing you within inches and blasting their horns. Or yelling "get off the road!". The only times I'm on those roads now is during organized rides and always with a mirror on the end of my handle bar to see them coming ... It has improved somewhat with more people cycling but it's still "us vs. them".
imho, yes, younger people are just much more dangerous on the road. I live in Europe but sometimes they even invade the road's shoulder trying to go fast and look fancy on their motorized vehicles
spot on. I'm a Brit living in the US and am apalled how poorly cars treat cyclists. It's simply not safe to be on the road in most places, certainly not alone.
I cycle on rural road in the U.S. all the time and rarely get a close pass. It does happen but it is definitely not the norm. If anything, I find the opposite problem is true. Cars just sitting behind me and not passing me when there is plenty of opportunity to do so.
@@jonathanparks207 I live 1 hour north of NYC. It is far, far safer to ride my bike in NYC than in this suburban county. It is simply taking your life into your own hands to attempt to ride a bike here.
Your content is magnificent, Katie, but your safety is of paramount importance, and we always want you to be as safe as you can be. You never have to apologize for prioritizing it.
So glad you are taking about this. It makes me feel less alone. The cumulative effect of fast close passes can be corrosive. Yesterday I had a friendly experience with a driver. Brightened my day.
That's tough! If the traffic is light and they have plenty of room to overtake ride away from the kerb so they have to overtake you properly rather than slicing by you.
France and Spain totally agree and I am just 64 live in Wiltshire and only ride lanes never A roads, it definitely knocks you back but thank you for your honesty and I’m forming people. But remember the generosity of strangers and it keeps you loving cycling new places,as always total respect ✊🏻
Gutted that you had such a crap experience. The close calls are scary enough, and then you lump that on top of not even being able to enjoy the views (unless you're a nut who is into clouds and rain for some reason). Thanks for being so open and sharing your experience with us so honestly. It takes tremendous courage, arguably moreso than going on one of these solo unsupported trips. I'm definitely investing in a Varia 715 for the roads here in the States. Here's wishing you clear skies and courteous drivers! 🥂
When I compare my heart rate on rides with close calls versus rides where I’m free of traffic, there’s a dramatic difference in my average heart rate. When you’re not confident about your safety, it does things to you. Sorry about your experience @KatieK.
Hello Katie you are an inspiration for all of us who practice cycling at any level. I completely understand you since in México it is very common for cars to not respect cyclists, going to the point of attacking their integrity. There is nothing left to do but hope that one day the situation will change, for now we just have to continue taking care of ourselves. Greetings from México.
So sorry you had to experience the bad driving. In my experience in the south of Italy , the driving is even worse. In the Dolomites I didn't have such bad experiences last summer. But it totally sucks people take so little care :(
It’s Italian drivers in general. Went to Milan two years ago and they were parking on pedestrian crossings and on pavements and where there were signs specifically saying not to park.
Katie I was in the Dolomites in June and I had the same experience with close passes. It’s even worse than the US (where I live). I love Italy but I’ll never bring my bike there again.
Actually, I dont think this is a real problem. I prefer the Italian way. Here, in Austria, they do it as well, but in addition with much higher speed. Italians are quite respectful imo.
@@lilwondair4836 I also live in Austria and hardly see that kind of behaviour. I think it's much worse in Italy. They are so used to these tiny roads in some areas that they don't even see the problem with passing closely.
I’m with you Katie! I’ve been hit from behind with a serious injury so I’m sensitive to close passes. More times than not I let the driver know my feelings with a certain gesture!😂 It’s really too bad that such a beautiful place is ruined by a few thoughtless and rude drivers. I don’t blame you for not wanting to come back. I hope you enjoy the rest of your ride.
KK in the Dolomites is like meeting your hero in real life and finding out they're an obnoxious jerk. 😆 You took the best of the experience and that's what matters. It's important that you showed all sides of your trip. Thank you for the video.
Such a shame 😢 ride safe katie. Unfortunately we seem to live in a world where respect and understanding has dwindled, especially since covid i would say. There are some very selfish road users and risking your beautiful life is not worth it! I hope you find some solice again on one of your epic off road adventures and keep the pedals turning! 🚲🚲🚲
Very sorry to hear this. I was in the Corvara region in August and I must say that the drivers were fairly patient compared to Germany. No honking, no complacent lectures. It often helps me to simply drive more in the center of the lane in narrow spots. This way, the cars are physically unable to overtake and they do not attempt any risky stunts.
Hi Katie, you're an inspiration to your subscribers on this channel thank you for being real with us. So sorry about this experience. Above all be safe and take care of yourself out there 🇮🇪
Ooh Katie, so sorry this isn’t going the way you hoped, hopefully things will improve. It’s fine to cry, you are always very honest. That’s why I love your vids!🥰
Really really sorry to hear about this Katie. People who've hidden in cars their whole lives, never ridden a bike seriously, have absolutely no idea of the physchological impacts of what a close call does to a person who's in such a vulnerable position. I can recall close calls from years ago. And worse it that most of them wouldn't care about their impact on anyone either. I've long said that people's solciopathic tendencies erupt once they feel insulated by their car, and it's an identical thing to how solcial media has facilitated that exact same type of phenomena. Road rage is a perfect example of the same type of manifestation, except as cyclists, we don't even get a chance to get into that situation except, perhaps, in an urban environment. I hope the rest of your trip is less subject to this.
We go to Il Lombardia every year and it appears to me the Italian drivers NEVER give you space, they seem to think we are all super confident riders that are not bothered by close passes! it is a trade off to cycle the most beautiful mountains and lakes in a stunning country..........
the traffic code in italy was recently change and now cars must give 1.5 meters to cyclists, but unfortunatly dashcam video evidence can't be used by police to issue traffc violations so very few care.
I totally get it Katie! We just come back from a trip and rode in France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy, and Italy was by far the worst, we felt very unsafe where as all the other countries had the most beautiful incredible cycle paths without barely touching a main road. We rode round lake Garda which was fantastic but hairy with the drivers. My hubby uses a Garmin which just helps when you know they are coming up behind you, but doesn’t stop them being knobs unfortunately 😂 love your vids and we are thinking of doing the Pyrenees next year! Thanks for sharing your trips, I’m hooked!
Oh Katie 😔It's such a shame you've had rubbish weather out there, as it is spectacularly beautiful when the Weather Gods are on your side. Your resilience is inspirational, though. Keep at it, buddy 👊
Respect for your Honesty Katie, if you’re not enjoying it because of the dangers, no one will think less of you for cutting this adventure short. I moved to the midi Pyrenees since 2021 from London and find the courtesy to cyclistes here is amazing and so friendly. Come back to France soon!
I had the same experience riding in the Dolomites. Italians seem to just drive close and it’s not meant to scare the bicyclist. They just see to think it is okay to get that close to bicyclists.
Exactly my experience in the dolomites earlier this year too. The passes are mostly okay, but the valleys are just aweful. There is a reason why pro riders dont train in the alps usually.
Also Katie, take up skiing and ski the Sellaronda in the winter, IMO it’s even more beautiful in the winter when covered in snow. If you like mountains you really can get up close and personal on skis.
As a commuter in the US, I can tell you drivers will get as close to me as they can w/o hitting me. Aggressive drivers have only gotten worse in recent years. Its taken the fun out of riding on streets, I stick to bike trails mostly..
That’s why I love biking in France. In over 26 years of biking there I’ve had maybe one or two close calls. Mostly they stay respectfully behind and when they pass, they pass wide without gunning their engine. Versus in the US I get “coaled” once a weak, honked at and occasionally get passed very close 😢
I'm Italian and I agree that drivers here are crazy and impatient. But the only accident that I had was in France (in Haute Alpes). One driver hit me in the back at high speed while I was riding on the left side of the road.
The French drivers taught me how to drive when passing cyclists. I was living in the Alps two decades ago and was just astounded how wide the drivers would go around cyclists. If the road was at all clear, they'd be in the opposite lane well before getting close to a cyclist, and saw no need to cut back in quickly. I'm my country I had never seen such consideration. I took that manner of driving home with me, much to the shock of my car passengers back home.
Katie, don’t feel bad about telling the truth. I went cycling in Umbria this summer whilst on holiday and, like you, I was shocked by the amount of close passes. I thought it was just a UK thing, but obviously the Italian are prone to it too. Very surprising given how much they love the sport of cycling. Stay safe out there😁🚴♀️💪
Thank you for sharing! I love Spain, not just for the riding and food, but also for how courteous the motorists are to cyclists. I was in Italy at the end of May, starting from Milan, circling Lake Como and Lake Garda, and ending in Venice. The drivers were so considerate!
Really appreciate your courage in these matters. we have crazy drivers where I live and given that, that's why I am a mountain biker. I can deal with the close calls with trees..not stupid people in cars. Wish you the best on your journeys!!
Aww, bless you Katie. The traffic seems to be getting worse and worse everywhere, and the drivers can be so selfish and dangerous. We take our lives in our hands every time we ride out. Such a legend doing these iconic rides, try to see the positives in what you have achieved. Sending positive vibes 🥰
So so very sad to see you being treated with such recklessness by so many drivers. It was strange, but as I watched you crying in the video I could feel my eyes watering. I'm not at all usually like that. But to see such a kind and gentle soul like you being treated so poorly by others absolutely affected me. My fingers are crossed for a better day tomorrow since I know this trip means so much to you. Having said that, if the reckless and dangerous driving continues, be courageous enough to consider reevaluating your plans for the rest of the trip. Sorry for sounding like a parent. 🤷♂️
I really appreciate your honesty, I think that is so important to stay real even when we would rather not. Also I do get it, I know this feeling you had on the road, and it does get in a way of enjoying the ride. Glad to see you ok, good luck on your next leg of the journey, take care x
So sorry you've had to endure those close passes. Thank you for being so honest and authentic. Your health and wellbeing is a priority and I'm glad that you've made it so. 😊
Like others - thanks for sharing your authentic experience. It is greatly appreciated. I also recommend using a mirror (I have one that attaches to my protective glasses (sunnies or clear for low light). I also find the Garmin Varia (audible alarm and visual on the bike computer) to be a big plus when riding alone as it keeps me more aware of vehicles coming up from behind, their speed, and the number of vehicles. No crashing, no collisions, no flats - still a good day!
I feel for you, and its OK 🙏. In Australia, I sense every close pass is 100% deliberate, like they are out to get you! I never ride on the road if I can help it, because of this risk. Only ride my MTB and Gravel bikes offroad tracks or on designated bikepaths.
Good call Katie. Life is for fun & if you can't enjoy yourself it becomes a chore, just going through the motions. You're doing it for the challenge, the scenery & a good time. If it's freaking you out you've done the right thing!
Feeling unsafe on the roads is a terrible thing all of us face at some point. I've had it happen in my local area and I have learned to avoid certain routes and ultimately moved to riding gravel and trails most of the time. To have it happen on a dream trip is such a lost opportunity on top of the fear no one should experience. I hope things improve on the trip and thank you for showing the reality of the ride.
Hi Katie. My wife and I cycled Brunico - Bressanone - Bolzano - Termeno - Trento the week before you, and yes we also got soaked through cycling for 3 hours in the pouring rain. Unlike you we did cycling for softies though with e-bikes 98% on cycle paths down in the valleys of South Tyrol. Fabulous countryside but I agree with you completely that the Italian drivers are possibly the least considerate in Europe. We had a couple of close passes where we had to use busy roads. We couldn't wait to get off the roads and back onto the cycle paths which were fantastic with often a better surface than many UK B roads. So we won't be going back cycling in Italy again. If it's mountains you want stick to France, Switzerland or Austria where the drivers are far more considerate.
I rode my motorcycle from the southeast to the northwest of Italy. They are without exception the worst drivers in Europe. I think you were being overly kind to say it's not all of them. I certainly wouldn't be rushing back there.
Your concerns and emotions are 100 percent valid/real. My outdoor riding around me in Texas has been brought to a halt due to inconsiderate or "distracted" drivers. I know this pain.
Thanks Katie for your honest views. Sometimes it takes more courage to stop and call it done! than it does to push on and convince yourself not to “quit”. With so many near passes this is not something you can safely tolerate. More likely it’s a sign of poor driving respect for other road users and is endemic in the region. You only have one life, don’t end it under a car driven by an ignorant driver.
Feel for you Katie - I'm in Australia and got used to close calls. Until last Christmas, when I got hit from behind while on a 4 lane road by an elderly gentleman on his way home from his first accident of the day. I'm mature and experienced enough around traffic but I'm still scared now, 9 months later. Keep going and keep positive, you're an inspiration!
Like you, I've had great respect on my bike in France, Austria, Germany, Slovenia and Spain. I've had a few close calls in the UK and more than that in Italy. I've decided I just don't want to go to Italy for some of the reasons you've articulated. Yes, the Dolomites are beautiful and I saw them in sunshine (lucky me), but I have found it to be unpleasant on a bike...
I visited Lake Garda a few years back and had to abandon a ride by getting the ferry back to my resort ( Malcesine) due to close passes especially when going through a tunnel, nerves were shattered. Hope you’re over it and can enjoy the rest of your break!
The UK is bad enough, This is why I no longer road ride I do MTB only and I tend to do EMTB now as well and I just try keep off road, Sorry you're having this issue I really feel for you, You're such an amazing person, Absolutely a stunning person in every aspect, we all appreciate you x.
So sorry you had such a bad day😢 It is totally understandable and you don't have to feel bad about sharing your feelings, your honest is also your bravery. It is totally understandable I have had a number of near misses and on in Spain when I was descending and nearly got hit by the side of a car had an immediate and lasting mental effect where I was totally unsure about every descent and bend after that, just scared of what may come next and it is so mentally taxing and the same happened when I had a close pass where the drivers wing mirror hit my handlebars. It does shake you up. Take care, and you made the right decision to cut it short and have a relatively car free day to come. Thanks for sharing.
First timer - very sorry to hear about the awful driving in Italy. I don't know how I can help you. Staying positive is my usual answer but that won't stop the drivers. Good luck & BW.
That really sucks as it’s clearly shattered your experience and was I really feeling for you. I’ve been looking at a Dolomites trip as it’s definitely on the bucket list and appreciate your honesty about your experience. I won’t not do it, but I’ll definitely approach it with more caution. Hope the rest of your trip undoes some of the hangover of your experiences from this day.
Italy is the pits for close passes, it's weird as the other two big cycling nations Spain & France are a joy to cycle in. I cycled in Italy in August of this year, never again unfortunately !
Your truth is your truth, if they were too close for you then they were. Full stop. I cycled in Spain and the wide bearths are amazing makes cycling loads more enjoyable, those switchbacks in the previous vid though so tempting!
Hi Katie. I've just done Stelvio Pass, and yesterday I did the 103 miles around Lake Como, I had the same close passes, and even passing on a blinded bend, I was just a few centimeters from being hit. So sad there's a lot of very bad drivers the Italians seem to be in a rush. I drove from Stelvio to Como, I drive steady, keeping to the speed limit and the the Italian drivers are right up your rear, so close. Stay safe
I just drove in a car from Strasbourg to the Pyrenees. A couple really beautiful parts of France that I want to explore on 2 wheels are the Jura south of Belfort and the massif Central ( think puy de dôme from tdf). Absolutely stunning terrain
I'm so sorry you had that experience, I hate that feeling and it is one of the things that will really ruin a ride. I did a week riding through Umbria and the road quality was absolutely horrible but the drivers were respectful, likely due to being much more rural with far fewer tourists.
with cell phones and large screens on the dashboard these days, I stopped riding the streets. also lost 3 friends and 3 others have been hit, myself included. now it's all mountain biking, I'll take my chances with the rocks.
Plan your next tour in Germany or Denmark! Germany has a law for passing cyclists: 1.5 m distance in urban traffic, 2 m out of cities or villages. Denmark has almost everywhere separated cycling paths besides the roads, often even separated in each direction. 😉
Nobody controls it Germany and the drivers don't care. As a cyclist here you can't do anything about it and the police will not help. In fact they are also against you. After an extremely close pass where I could have been killed if I had fallen, I was accused of damaging the car that passed , ended up in court and lost a lot of money because of what the police said ACAB.
I'm Italian, this is why team shave altitude camps in Spain and France :) You should try gravel biking, it will take you in some stunning places in the Dolomites x
Close passes have been concern for Maurizio Fondriest ( Ex world Champion) who is from Cles in the Dolomites Katie . I too had to take evasive action in Dermulo , Val Di Non when an empty Apple carrier truck cut me up and I decamped onto a grass verge damaging my Ribble R872 ! Take care .
Thank you for sharing and uploading this. I can empathize with your experience, as I've had several close calls myself. As a result, I’ve become more timid and cautious about where I ride. I hope that more areas become safer and friendlier for cyclists in the future. Unfortunately, it might be a long wait.
I've just come back from the World Championships opening weekend in Zurich, Switzerland. Cycling from the German border and back ,together with the tour I rode around Zurich lake , I was horrified by the absolute ignorance of swiss drivers. There are cycle lanes on the road marked with a yellow line about 80cm wide and the drivers pass right on that line ... right on your elbow!!! 99% of them. On the narrow mountain roads it's terrifying! I will never go back to ride in Switzerland. I've always been aware that northern Italy has a bad reputation. From experience Austria is up there too for extreme close passing. I just blacklist these areas in the meantime. My life is not worth a nice view.
Never fake positivity. Continue to be honest and genuine. It’s what makes your clips so informative. Take care.
There's nothing worse than feeling totally vulnerable on your bike, I felt so awful seeing you cry, we've all had close passes but when you get so many in one ride it's scary, not being bratty!!!!! We love you and please take care of yourself xx
She cries in just about every upload.
@@iann23 so not true, she excels in joy on the bike 99% of the time, I know like most cyclists how awful close passes can be, it's scary, I'm glad she shares her experiences with us, good and bad x
@@238949 I watched through her videos now due to your feminist outburst attack on men here, and he was right, she does cry all of the time, and the whole channel is about her neurosis, and nothing is really about biking but her needs to play out dramas online.. I came for the bike experience but was forced to stay for jerking off to a sexy woman crying and being neurotic on. a bike with big sad eyes ... ha ha ha.. you women are so horrible... you always lie and pretend to get attention... yikes...this is not about biking. is a form of only fans' fetish.
I feel you. Nothing ruins a ride more than risk of life and limb.
I wish every driver could experience that feeling. Their behavior would change!
What you describe is something only a road cyclist can really appreciate, to regularly be an inch or two away from a serious accident with potentially life changing/ending consequences can overwhelm a person's emotions. I wish more motorists could appreciate this.
I agree but they seem to have a different level of risk. Even if they were on a bike they wouldn't take a close pass as anything to stress about. They accept risk like its a matter of course and kind of laugh at people who don't think the same as them.
Exactly. I think it would be helpful if everyone who takes a driving test has to ride a bike and have an instructor drive past closely to experience what's it's like.
@@BoomsRiddico4868 I think they would be equally stressed by an idiot passing a few inches from them. I think many have absolutely no idea what it feels like.
@@BoomsRiddico4868 They would. People do it because they don't think its dangerous and they have never experienced it for the most part. Very very few people don't get any fear when someone passes them way too close. You would have the same thing if someone flew past you that close when you were walking.
Hi Katie, I'm very sorry about your stress on the road. Close car passes are usual in Italy because Italian car drivers HATE cyclists. I am a cyclist and i ride on road near Rome. Here is much worse then in Dolomites.
We risk our life every time we ride bicycle . I decided to buy a Gravel bike instead of a road bike to avoid this dangerous situations.
Even the Police and Carabinieri don't protect us, according to them we are a BIG problem.
Unfortunately, the law of the strongest and biggest applies on Italian roads like in the Jungle. Have nice ride and journey.
Forza Katie!!! Sei forte!!!🤟🤟
Roberto
Thank you for explaining this to the rest of us. All I ever hear is how bad it is here in the US. Never knew there was also a bad situation in Italy.
Dear lady, you are crossing a dangerous area, last year a man was killed by a bear, be careful.
I'm an Italian cyclist from Friuli region (not far from where this video was shot) and I lived in Rome for three years. I can confirm in Rome it's much worse, I felt like risking my life every morning pedaling to work. I only kept cycling as a political stand, it wasn't pleasant at all. Now I live in Manhattan and still I feel that drivers behavior towards cyclists is worse in Italy, with the exception of The Bronx, there I feel even less safe than in Italy when I ride.
I recommend a series on cycling USA coast to coast made by Italian cyclist (from Milan) Pietro Franzese. He was surprised at how respectful American drivers have been th-cam.com/play/PLfDaNE_VUo2BXAYrJUiwEghBZ69yGklRw.html
@@marcantonioticconi682I don’t think a bear attack is the main danger here! 🤣
I feel your pain. I have pulled over and had a breakdown as well. Your emotions are honest and genuine. It is part of who you are and the content you share. I am sorry your trip has been adversely affected by so many rude and dangerous motorists.
Italian here: I'm really sorry for what you went through. Unfortunatley, we get used to being abused (and often killed) by idiotic drivers here. What's worse, just like in other countries, cyclists are seen as a bunch of irresponsible morons that should be working instead of riding their bikes around. Makes no sense: Italy has an amazing biking history, with quite a few revered athletes... I've lived here for almost forty years, I still don't get were this disrespect comes from
Katie I’m in Italy bikepacking this week and the roads are horrendous. Never again! Agree I’ve drivers wanting to intimidate- I can’t believe how consistently bad it is
No explanation necessary Katie, close passes are so dangerous but most people that drive but never ride bikes have no idea.
Your honesty is much appreciated. Thanks. We all love your videos because of you, being you. Thanks for the transparency
Thank you Katie. Your experience, generously shared with us, brings me a lot of gratitude. Gratitude for being authentic when I feel low and gratitude for the growing trust in the next corner.
The best route in Italy (and probably one of the best in the world) is The Alpe Adria Cycle Path. Seriously stunning and the best part is the Italian leg is practically all traffic free on glorious cycle paths going up mountains and tunnels. I've hiked a few times in the Dolomites, but would never cycle on those roads.
Thank you for sharing those wonderful perspectives and travel experiences. Your candor about how such incidents can disrupt a love or passion for cycling is appreciated. The frustration, upset, and annoyance are understandable. It's frightening that a person driving a motorized vehicle can cause harm to other road users. I've also had experiences of being forced off the road while cycling on public roads in North America. It just makes the encounter shade some of the enjoyment. As you mentioned, it's not every driver, and there's no desire to demonize other road users. I know you have a very strong will keep on cycling. I really enjoy your channel.
Thanks for the privilege of sharing your journey,both the good and the bad. Your honesty adds greatly to the experience. Stay safe!
There is a thing in flying called "I've got to get there"-itis and it can be lethal. Katie, you are a very experienced rider. You know when it's safe and when it isn't. Never ride if you don't feel safe. If you have to cut a ride short cut it short. We'll get to see you on your next ride. Stay safe!
The best you can do in regards to your own safety,when you can't control what other road users are doing then is time to evaluate the situation,you made the right decision Katie, tomorrows another day,take care 😎
Thanks for telling it how it is Katie. It’s horrible when your peace of mind is affected and you are genuinely frightened. It’s bizarre that Italian drivers hate cyclists when Italy has such a proud cycling history and culture. Thank goodness that France and Spain are safe to cycle in and just as magnificent!
Italy used to have a proud cycling culture. Here in Tuscany where I am currently living, I never see any cyclists around the town where I live and am lucky if I see a cyclist or 2 on Sunday rides. Never used to be like this.
Italy is very car centric, and with this political enviroment there is no hope things will improve soon, the governament is actually trying to get rid of speed cameras and lowering speed limits, the traffic code here impose a distance of 1.5m to pass a cyclist but drivers don't give a fuck because there won't be consequences unless they actually hit you and even in that case good luck with finding the perpetrator. By the way one of the last close passes I got was by a local police's car, local police in italy mainly deal with traffic violations.
I ve spend 10 days in Laco di como.I m french.I understand completely your sensation.I drove during my stay, and I was a pedestrian too, and I have never been so afraid of being a pedestrian. The Italians do not respect "protected crossings", it's terrifying. I will never risk cycling on their roads. Bravo to you, you are splendid🙂
Just wanna reach through the screen and give you a big hug! It’s very unsettling when you have close calls. I’ve driven in most countries in Europe and I’d say Italian drivers are certainly among the most aggressive and impatient.
The most important thing is that you’re ok. But it’s really unfortunate that it shook your confidence and it’s probably no jaded an iconic region for you.
Hopefully you’ll have an amazing experience with a TON of like minded people tomorrow.
Adore you for being real and telling it like it really is. The Good, The Bad and the Ugly….it’s all part of the experience for better or for worse.
Have an amazing day tomorrow and let that one fill your memories ❤
I live in the American state of Ohio. Every time I go for a ride, 5 to 10 drivers come very close to me. Last week, while riding my motorcycle, a car passed me in my lane, hitting my elbow and forcing me off into a field of grass. Twenty years ago, it was very rare when someone passed me too close. Today, it is all the time. Many people in America have become angry and impatient. They would rather endanger a cyclist's life than wait for oncoming traffic to pass before going around a cyclist.
I hope the rest of your trip will be much better.
It’s an interesting paradox given the roads are much more narrow in Europe but they’re used to cyclists a lot more also whereas herein the states roads are so much wider given the dumb a$s regulations having to do with the fire/emergency services vehicles are huge.
This is true in Canada too. No patience at all. The UK is pretty good overall, and it certainly doesn't have the reputation of Spain or France regarding driver courtesy.
Plus cars are larger than couple of decades ago, everywhere😢
I'm a beginner cyclist and this happens to me every time or almost I go out for a ride, maybe not as close as in your Dolomites experience but close enough I start crying or sometimes shouting at the drivers. I can't seem to get used to it. (Rural France). I just got a home trainer and will be trying zwift. But I obviously would prefer to ride outside in a safe way.
The roads in Italy are extremely narrow and Italians drive extremely fast for them. So you have to travel in groups so the cars will give you the amount of space needed. Also, Italian drivers never leave the horn alone.
I feel your pain, have cycled from Munich to Rome and as much as Italy was my highlight few first days were mentally draining, no shoulders on the road and as long as you are going fast the drivers give you space and wait for the opportunity to over pass, the moment you climbing slow they overtake you in minimal space, what helped me a bit Garmin Varia radar, so i haven't been surprised
@Katie never nice to have that close passes feeling, but I think it is due to be a very busy and touristic. Hopefully nothing happened! Stay strong! Great views apart from the weather. Thanks for sharing! This is on my list.
I started riding on streets & roads on Christmas Day of 1967, & it’s been a long 57 yrs of looking over my shoulder since. After more than 55 yrs it was an illegally derestricted ebike on a multi-use path that put me in a hospital. Our federal ADA overrides local law to an extent, but predating electric wheelchairs & other powered mobility devices as it does, our local code prohibits any form of a powered conveyance on the paths - but that’s a different story.
In the States “punishment passes” & brushoffs are common. There’s something about an adult on a bike that sets people off, & the ones who will literally run & hide if you chase them down & confront them are the worst.
Here’s what I’ve learned will mitigate problems as much or more than any other thing you can do:
1. Highly visible clothing or kit. I ride in cargo shorts & a t-shit, but the t-shirts are high-vis safety yellow things made for road crews & deck hands & the like.
2. Daytime lights front & rear with good exposures to both sides.
3. Asserting yourself with traffic.
I make a 220 lb high-vis goof on a lit-up bike of myself, & take the lane at will. When using lights in particular, people seem to understand that there will be no excuse for hitting me. They follow further back until they can safely pass, then give me the entire lane when they do. They don’t left or right hook as readily as they otherwise might, & they don’t just take my turn to go at 4-way stops, etc.
Part of that is my age, part of it is my size & strength, & part of it is clearly the fact that I’m leaving absolutely no space for a claim that I wasn’t seen.
I personally think lights are of equal value day or night, & at this point I just don’t ride without them.
Take Care. 👍
One of the things that I most like about you Katie is that you tell it like it is. Your experience confirms my suspicions for some time about what it would be like to cycle on the mountainous roads in Italy. Having driven in Italy on two occasions, I've both witnessed and experienced agressive and close driving.
As a car driver it was unsettling. As a cyclist it must be absolutely terrifying. Just watching that procession of Porsches drive past you as you talked into the camera at the top of a col left me in no doubt that you are just one small step away from being hit by a car in that place.
Come back home safely Katie x
That should have been a highlight of your trip. The Dolomites are magical. I rode through in 1985 and '86 and had no issues with traffic. I can well imagine things are way worse now for traffic and your account confirms what I suspected. In the local mountains where I live the weekend traffic on narrow roads makes cycling hazardous. There are so many more motorists today. Sad to say it's the new reality.
Hey @KatieKookaburra, I’m really glad to see a video where you openly discuss these issues of bad and dangerous driving. As cyclists, no matter what kind of cycling we do-racing, touring, ultra-distance, commuting, errands, or just for fun-we are often, if not always, put at risk on the roads. This is a global issue, affecting cyclists everywhere, whether in the UK, France, or anywhere else in the world.
I’ve recently binge-watched many of your videos, which are fantastic, but I had hoped you would mention these concerns from time to time. Of course, we all understand that it's more enjoyable to focus on your adventures without the need to rant about bad driving, and that makes sense. So, I’m really glad you decided to speak up about it in this video because dangerous drivers are something we face on nearly every ride. This is something that puts off my partner from commuting for example.
Believe me, you're not alone in feeling upset after close passes - it's something many of us experience, and your feelings are completely valid. Thanks for opening up 👏
By the way, I live near Mont Ventoux, and my personal highlight of my "cycling career" has been climbing it via Sault. Huge congrats on completing it via all three routes and earning the "cinglé" title! Your fitness level is truly amazing 💪.
Best regards,
Ben (from France)
I don’t consider this complaining. I see it as a public service announcement. It’s really important to let people know about the reality of riding bikes in this area. At least if people decide to ride there they will be prepared for the possible dangers. Bravo!
I understand you completely! I think every cyclist experiences this type of driving but in Italy it almost feels like its a type of sport to see how close they can get. Chin up!
So sorry for your experience with the car culture..
After decades of road riding, I got fed up with battling cars. So at 65, I switched to gravel riding. Ditched clip in shoes too and the lycra😅. Living in the Pacific NW of the U.S. We are blessed with thousands of miles of gravel.
What you describe is exactly like riding rural roads in parts of the US. Mostly "kids" in huge trucks passing you within inches and blasting their horns. Or yelling "get off the road!". The only times I'm on those roads now is during organized rides and always with a mirror on the end of my handle bar to see them coming ... It has improved somewhat with more people cycling but it's still "us vs. them".
imho, yes, younger people are just much more dangerous on the road. I live in Europe but sometimes they even invade the road's shoulder trying to go fast and look fancy on their motorized vehicles
spot on. I'm a Brit living in the US and am apalled how poorly cars treat cyclists. It's simply not safe to be on the road in most places, certainly not alone.
We have the same
Dick Heads here in Southern Ontario Canada. 9 out of 10 times we get buzzed it’s by a redneck in a beat up pick up.
I cycle on rural road in the U.S. all the time and rarely get a close pass. It does happen but it is definitely not the norm. If anything, I find the opposite problem is true. Cars just sitting behind me and not passing me when there is plenty of opportunity to do so.
@@jonathanparks207 I live 1 hour north of NYC. It is far, far safer to ride my bike in NYC than in this suburban county. It is simply taking your life into your own hands to attempt to ride a bike here.
Your content is magnificent, Katie, but your safety is of paramount importance, and we always want you to be as safe as you can be. You never have to apologize for prioritizing it.
So glad you are taking about this. It makes me feel less alone. The cumulative effect of fast close passes can be corrosive.
Yesterday I had a friendly experience with a driver. Brightened my day.
That's tough! If the traffic is light and they have plenty of room to overtake ride away from the kerb so they have to overtake you properly rather than slicing by you.
France and Spain totally agree and I am just 64 live in Wiltshire and only ride lanes never A roads, it definitely knocks you back but thank you for your honesty and I’m forming people. But remember the generosity of strangers and it keeps you loving cycling new places,as always total respect ✊🏻
Gutted that you had such a crap experience. The close calls are scary enough, and then you lump that on top of not even being able to enjoy the views (unless you're a nut who is into clouds and rain for some reason). Thanks for being so open and sharing your experience with us so honestly. It takes tremendous courage, arguably moreso than going on one of these solo unsupported trips. I'm definitely investing in a Varia 715 for the roads here in the States. Here's wishing you clear skies and courteous drivers! 🥂
Bad day on the bike. Tomorrow will be so much better. Keep faith. Ride like the wind. ✊
When I compare my heart rate on rides with close calls versus rides where I’m free of traffic, there’s a dramatic difference in my average heart rate. When you’re not confident about your safety, it does things to you. Sorry about your experience @KatieK.
Hello Katie you are an inspiration for all of us who practice cycling at any level. I completely understand you since in México it is very common for cars to not respect cyclists, going to the point of attacking their integrity. There is nothing left to do but hope that one day the situation will change, for now we just have to continue taking care of ourselves. Greetings from México.
So sorry you had to experience the bad driving. In my experience in the south of Italy , the driving is even worse. In the Dolomites I didn't have such bad experiences last summer. But it totally sucks people take so little care :(
It’s Italian drivers in general. Went to Milan two years ago and they were parking on pedestrian crossings and on pavements and where there were signs specifically saying not to park.
Katie I was in the Dolomites in June and I had the same experience with close passes. It’s even worse than the US (where I live). I love Italy but I’ll never bring my bike there again.
Lots of close passes was also my experience of the Dolomites. Chatting to our Italian guide he said they overtake very close to all vehicles.
Actually, I dont think this is a real problem. I prefer the Italian way. Here, in Austria, they do it as well, but in addition with much higher speed. Italians are quite respectful imo.
@@lilwondair4836the woman is sat by a roadside bawling and you don’t think it’s a real problem? She just making it up?
@@lilwondair4836 I also live in Austria and hardly see that kind of behaviour. I think it's much worse in Italy. They are so used to these tiny roads in some areas that they don't even see the problem with passing closely.
I’m with you Katie! I’ve been hit from behind with a serious injury so I’m sensitive to close passes. More times than not I let the driver know my feelings with a certain gesture!😂 It’s really too bad that such a beautiful place is ruined by a few thoughtless and rude drivers. I don’t blame you for not wanting to come back. I hope you enjoy the rest of your ride.
KK in the Dolomites is like meeting your hero in real life and finding out they're an obnoxious jerk. 😆 You took the best of the experience and that's what matters. It's important that you showed all sides of your trip. Thank you for the video.
Such a shame 😢 ride safe katie. Unfortunately we seem to live in a world where respect and understanding has dwindled, especially since covid i would say. There are some very selfish road users and risking your beautiful life is not worth it! I hope you find some solice again on one of your epic off road adventures and keep the pedals turning! 🚲🚲🚲
Very sorry to hear this. I was in the Corvara region in August and I must say that the drivers were fairly patient compared to Germany. No honking, no complacent lectures. It often helps me to simply drive more in the center of the lane in narrow spots. This way, the cars are physically unable to overtake and they do not attempt any risky stunts.
I also had some really bad encounters with motorists and motorcyclists on italian roads. Very good that you are adressing this topic!
Hi Katie, you're an inspiration to your subscribers on this channel thank you for being real with us. So sorry about this experience. Above all be safe and take care of yourself out there 🇮🇪
Ooh Katie, so sorry this isn’t going the way you hoped, hopefully things will improve. It’s fine to cry, you are always very honest. That’s why I love your vids!🥰
Really really sorry to hear about this Katie. People who've hidden in cars their whole lives, never ridden a bike seriously, have absolutely no idea of the physchological impacts of what a close call does to a person who's in such a vulnerable position. I can recall close calls from years ago. And worse it that most of them wouldn't care about their impact on anyone either. I've long said that people's solciopathic tendencies erupt once they feel insulated by their car, and it's an identical thing to how solcial media has facilitated that exact same type of phenomena. Road rage is a perfect example of the same type of manifestation, except as cyclists, we don't even get a chance to get into that situation except, perhaps, in an urban environment. I hope the rest of your trip is less subject to this.
We go to Il Lombardia every year and it appears to me the Italian drivers NEVER give you space, they seem to think we are all super confident riders that are not bothered by close passes! it is a trade off to cycle the most beautiful mountains and lakes in a stunning country..........
the traffic code in italy was recently change and now cars must give 1.5 meters to cyclists, but unfortunatly dashcam video evidence can't be used by police to issue traffc violations so very few care.
I totally get it Katie! We just come back from a trip and rode in France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy, and Italy was by far the worst, we felt very unsafe where as all the other countries had the most beautiful incredible cycle paths without barely touching a main road. We rode round lake Garda which was fantastic but hairy with the drivers. My hubby uses a Garmin which just helps when you know they are coming up behind you, but doesn’t stop them being knobs unfortunately 😂 love your vids and we are thinking of doing the Pyrenees next year! Thanks for sharing your trips, I’m hooked!
Oh Katie 😔It's such a shame you've had rubbish weather out there, as it is spectacularly beautiful when the Weather Gods are on your side. Your resilience is inspirational, though. Keep at it, buddy 👊
Respect for your Honesty Katie, if you’re not enjoying it because of the dangers, no one will think less of you for cutting this adventure short.
I moved to the midi Pyrenees since 2021 from London and find the courtesy to cyclistes here is amazing and so friendly. Come back to France soon!
Think I’ll go there instead of Dolomites! 😊
I had the same experience riding in the Dolomites. Italians seem to just drive close and it’s not meant to scare the bicyclist. They just see to think it is okay to get that close to bicyclists.
Exactly my experience in the dolomites earlier this year too. The passes are mostly okay, but the valleys are just aweful. There is a reason why pro riders dont train in the alps usually.
Also Katie, take up skiing and ski the Sellaronda in the winter, IMO it’s even more beautiful in the winter when covered in snow. If you like mountains you really can get up close and personal on skis.
Not if you value your own safety, skier on skier crashes are very common today
As a commuter in the US, I can tell you drivers will get as close to me as they can w/o hitting me. Aggressive drivers have only gotten worse in recent years. Its taken the fun out of riding on streets, I stick to bike trails mostly..
Love your honesty. You are not alone. Riding on roads today is such an unpredictable experience.❤❤ Stay safe.😊
That’s why I love biking in France. In over 26 years of biking there I’ve had maybe one or two close calls. Mostly they stay respectfully behind and when they pass, they pass wide without gunning their engine. Versus in the US I get “coaled” once a weak, honked at and occasionally get passed very close 😢
I'm Italian and I agree that drivers here are crazy and impatient. But the only accident that I had was in France (in Haute Alpes). One driver hit me in the back at high speed while I was riding on the left side of the road.
The French drivers taught me how to drive when passing cyclists. I was living in the Alps two decades ago and was just astounded how wide the drivers would go around cyclists. If the road was at all clear, they'd be in the opposite lane well before getting close to a cyclist, and saw no need to cut back in quickly. I'm my country I had never seen such consideration. I took that manner of driving home with me, much to the shock of my car passengers back home.
I've experienced terrible drivers/driving in France
Bless your heart pretty girl, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and praying tomorrow is much better.
Katie, don’t feel bad about telling the truth. I went cycling in Umbria this summer whilst on holiday and, like you, I was shocked by the amount of close passes. I thought it was just a UK thing, but obviously the Italian are prone to it too. Very surprising given how much they love the sport of cycling. Stay safe out there😁🚴♀️💪
I’ve cycled the Sellaronda loop on open roads. Sharing it with other traffic was absolutely fine. Some of the best cycling in the world. Enjoy!
Thank you for sharing! I love Spain, not just for the riding and food, but also for how courteous the motorists are to cyclists. I was in Italy at the end of May, starting from Milan, circling Lake Como and Lake Garda, and ending in Venice. The drivers were so considerate!
Really appreciate your courage in these matters. we have crazy drivers where I live and given that, that's why I am a mountain biker. I can deal with the close calls with trees..not stupid people in cars. Wish you the best on your journeys!!
Aww, bless you Katie. The traffic seems to be getting worse and worse everywhere, and the drivers can be so selfish and dangerous. We take our lives in our hands every time we ride out. Such a legend doing these iconic rides, try to see the positives in what you have achieved. Sending positive vibes 🥰
Better safe (and honest) than any alternative. Thanks for being forthright, as much as you can be, Katie. Here's to a better day ... tomorrow.
So so very sad to see you being treated with such recklessness by so many drivers. It was strange, but as I watched you crying in the video I could feel my eyes watering. I'm not at all usually like that. But to see such a kind and gentle soul like you being treated so poorly by others absolutely affected me. My fingers are crossed for a better day tomorrow since I know this trip means so much to you. Having said that, if the reckless and dangerous driving continues, be courageous enough to consider reevaluating your plans for the rest of the trip. Sorry for sounding like a parent. 🤷♂️
Bless you , it’s not nice to see anyone upset , hope you all good , stay strong and RIDE ON ❤
I really appreciate your honesty, I think that is so important to stay real even when we would rather not. Also I do get it, I know this feeling you had on the road, and it does get in a way of enjoying the ride. Glad to see you ok, good luck on your next leg of the journey, take care x
So sorry you've had to endure those close passes. Thank you for being so honest and authentic. Your health and wellbeing is a priority and I'm glad that you've made it so. 😊
Like others - thanks for sharing your authentic experience. It is greatly appreciated. I also recommend using a mirror (I have one that attaches to my protective glasses (sunnies or clear for low light). I also find the Garmin Varia (audible alarm and visual on the bike computer) to be a big plus when riding alone as it keeps me more aware of vehicles coming up from behind, their speed, and the number of vehicles. No crashing, no collisions, no flats - still a good day!
I feel for you, and its OK 🙏. In Australia, I sense every close pass is 100% deliberate, like they are out to get you! I never ride on the road if I can help it, because of this risk. Only ride my MTB and Gravel bikes offroad tracks or on designated bikepaths.
Good call Katie. Life is for fun & if you can't enjoy yourself it becomes a chore, just going through the motions. You're doing it for the challenge, the scenery & a good time. If it's freaking you out you've done the right thing!
Feeling unsafe on the roads is a terrible thing all of us face at some point. I've had it happen in my local area and I have learned to avoid certain routes and ultimately moved to riding gravel and trails most of the time. To have it happen on a dream trip is such a lost opportunity on top of the fear no one should experience. I hope things improve on the trip and thank you for showing the reality of the ride.
Hi Katie. My wife and I cycled Brunico - Bressanone - Bolzano - Termeno - Trento the week before you, and yes we also got soaked through cycling for 3 hours in the pouring rain. Unlike you we did cycling for softies though with e-bikes 98% on cycle paths down in the valleys of South Tyrol. Fabulous countryside but I agree with you completely that the Italian drivers are possibly the least considerate in Europe. We had a couple of close passes where we had to use busy roads. We couldn't wait to get off the roads and back onto the cycle paths which were fantastic with often a better surface than many UK B roads. So we won't be going back cycling in Italy again. If it's mountains you want stick to France, Switzerland or Austria where the drivers are far more considerate.
I rode my motorcycle from the southeast to the northwest of Italy. They are without exception the worst drivers in Europe. I think you were being overly kind to say it's not all of them. I certainly wouldn't be rushing back there.
Portuguese a close second!
Your concerns and emotions are 100 percent valid/real. My outdoor riding around me in Texas has been brought to a halt due to inconsiderate or "distracted" drivers. I know this pain.
Thanks Katie for your honest views. Sometimes it takes more courage to stop and call it done! than it does to push on and convince yourself not to “quit”. With so many near passes this is not something you can safely tolerate. More likely it’s a sign of poor driving respect for other road users and is endemic in the region. You only have one life, don’t end it under a car driven by an ignorant driver.
Feel for you Katie - I'm in Australia and got used to close calls. Until last Christmas, when I got hit from behind while on a 4 lane road by an elderly gentleman on his way home from his first accident of the day. I'm mature and experienced enough around traffic but I'm still scared now, 9 months later. Keep going and keep positive, you're an inspiration!
Like you, I've had great respect on my bike in France, Austria, Germany, Slovenia and Spain. I've had a few close calls in the UK and more than that in Italy. I've decided I just don't want to go to Italy for some of the reasons you've articulated. Yes, the Dolomites are beautiful and I saw them in sunshine (lucky me), but I have found it to be unpleasant on a bike...
I feel you. Here in Philippines 🇵🇭 is horrific than any other country in the world. Cycling here is like a hell.
I visited Lake Garda a few years back and had to abandon a ride by getting the ferry back to my resort ( Malcesine) due to close passes especially when going through a tunnel, nerves were shattered. Hope you’re over it and can enjoy the rest of your break!
The roads around the periphery of lake Garda are horrendous, plenty of quieter options though.
The UK is bad enough, This is why I no longer road ride I do MTB only and I tend to do EMTB now as well and I just try keep off road, Sorry you're having this issue I really feel for you, You're such an amazing person, Absolutely a stunning person in every aspect, we all appreciate you x.
So sorry you had such a bad day😢
It is totally understandable and you don't have to feel bad about sharing your feelings, your honest is also your bravery.
It is totally understandable I have had a number of near misses and on in Spain when I was descending and nearly got hit by the side of a car had an immediate and lasting mental effect where I was totally unsure about every descent and bend after that, just scared of what may come next and it is so mentally taxing and the same happened when I had a close pass where the drivers wing mirror hit my handlebars. It does shake you up.
Take care, and you made the right decision to cut it short and have a relatively car free day to come.
Thanks for sharing.
First timer - very sorry to hear about the awful driving in Italy. I don't know how I can help you. Staying positive is my usual answer but that won't stop the drivers. Good luck & BW.
That really sucks as it’s clearly shattered your experience and was I really feeling for you. I’ve been looking at a Dolomites trip as it’s definitely on the bucket list and appreciate your honesty about your experience. I won’t not do it, but I’ll definitely approach it with more caution.
Hope the rest of your trip undoes some of the hangover of your experiences from this day.
Italy is the pits for close passes, it's weird as the other two big cycling nations Spain & France are a joy to cycle in. I cycled in Italy in August of this year, never again unfortunately !
Your truth is your truth, if they were too close for you then they were. Full stop. I cycled in Spain and the wide bearths are amazing makes cycling loads more enjoyable, those switchbacks in the previous vid though so tempting!
Hi Katie. I've just done Stelvio Pass, and yesterday I did the 103 miles around Lake Como, I had the same close passes, and even passing on a blinded bend, I was just a few centimeters from being hit. So sad there's a lot of very bad drivers the Italians seem to be in a rush. I drove from Stelvio to Como, I drive steady, keeping to the speed limit and the the Italian drivers are right up your rear, so close. Stay safe
I just drove in a car from Strasbourg to the Pyrenees. A couple really beautiful parts of France that I want to explore on 2 wheels are the Jura south of Belfort and the massif Central ( think puy de dôme from tdf). Absolutely stunning terrain
I'm so sorry you had that experience, I hate that feeling and it is one of the things that will really ruin a ride. I did a week riding through Umbria and the road quality was absolutely horrible but the drivers were respectful, likely due to being much more rural with far fewer tourists.
with cell phones and large screens on the dashboard these days, I stopped riding the streets. also lost 3 friends and 3 others have been hit, myself included. now it's all mountain biking, I'll take my chances with the rocks.
Plan your next tour in Germany or Denmark!
Germany has a law for passing cyclists: 1.5 m distance in urban traffic, 2 m out of cities or villages.
Denmark has almost everywhere separated cycling paths besides the roads, often even separated in each direction. 😉
Yes, but obviously no driver seem know this...
@@sunny5142 Wrong. Approx 80 to 90 % of Berlin drivers obtain this law.
Austria has a similar law and 95% of the drivers don't give a flying f*ck. It is usually more like between 0.5 m and 1 m. Sometimes even less.
Nobody controls it Germany and the drivers don't care. As a cyclist here you can't do anything about it and the police will not help. In fact they are also against you. After an extremely close pass where I could have been killed if I had fallen, I was accused of damaging the car that passed , ended up in court and lost a lot of money because of what the police said ACAB.
I toured for 40.000km and that's my main frustration on the road... I have the best experiences in Spain and the 1.5m rule which is enforced.
I'm Italian, this is why team shave altitude camps in Spain and France :) You should try gravel biking, it will take you in some stunning places in the Dolomites x
"team shave" made me think for a second ;)
Close passes have been concern for Maurizio Fondriest ( Ex world Champion) who is from Cles in the Dolomites Katie . I too had to take evasive action in Dermulo , Val Di Non when an empty Apple carrier truck cut me up and I decamped onto a grass verge damaging my Ribble R872 ! Take care .
Thank you for sharing and uploading this. I can empathize with your experience, as I've had several close calls myself. As a result, I’ve become more timid and cautious about where I ride. I hope that more areas become safer and friendlier for cyclists in the future. Unfortunately, it might be a long wait.
I've just come back from the World Championships opening weekend in Zurich, Switzerland. Cycling from the German border and back ,together with the tour I rode around Zurich lake , I was horrified by the absolute ignorance of swiss drivers. There are cycle lanes on the road marked with a yellow line about 80cm wide and the drivers pass right on that line ... right on your elbow!!! 99% of them. On the narrow mountain roads it's terrifying! I will never go back to ride in Switzerland. I've always been aware that northern Italy has a bad reputation. From experience Austria is up there too for extreme close passing. I just blacklist these areas in the meantime. My life is not worth a nice view.
Generally the standard of driving in Italy is somewhere between terrible and a joke.
The ride today is never as important as the ride tomorrow. Stopping early means you didn't risk your future rides. Smart girl.