I Owe $18,000 On a Car With a 26% Interest Rate!
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- I Owe $18,000 On a Car With a 26% Interest Rate!
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They may be scheisters but not idiots. They knew she wouldn't be able to pay the note but got a bonus on her down payment and would be able to repossess the car to sell it again.
Sadly, you are 100% right. They got an endless supply of desperate people, too...
Exactly
Business as usual
They set that interest rate because her likelihood of repaying it was lower than most. They were correct and now she can't pay. 100% her responsibility.
@@zunedog31 agreed. She was stupid for getting too expensive of a car but I wouldn’t be surprised if the dealership encouraged her to get it.
I remember when I was 18 I tried to get a car and they told me 31% intrest and my friends were telling me to do it! And I was about to but I had to think about it and that’s when I realized they weren’t really my friends! I was almost purchased the car under peer pressured and would’ve messed up my financial life
Glad you were Headstrong n you saved yourself an headache
HowlBeast ,, it’s crazy how I actually thought of it and now I have a car financed at 2.4% at 19 years old! Crazy right?
@@richgenix dang kid hope you get out of it and follow Dave Ramsey plan
HowlBeast , i got a 10k car financed it and 2.4% paying little over 300 in Total! I think it’s a good deal
umm.. you just drew the conclusion that they weren't really your friends?!? You didn't think that maybe they were as naïve, if not more naïve, than you? Friends give bad advice too.
Lots of red flags. 21 year old unmarried and pregnant. Bought a car she couldn't afford.. Low income.
AKA 25% of America.
Boyfriend with zero debt going to EMT school who PROBABLY won’t stick around...
I used to work in a dealership years back as a collections advisor .. the amount of kids buying Audi’s, Benz at a young age alongside their dad n in finance. I was stunned I really wanted to pull the dad n say WHY LET HER BE IN DEBT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I just collected card payments n transfers .. plus desk had mics n camera
HowlBeast Dealerships are some of the biggest crooks around.
The father is chad or Tyrone
This is the kind of America that we live in. The "I gotta have it crowd".
Spot on!
Also the 'I gotta sell it' crowd.
"I gotta have it *NOW* crowd".
26% jeez .. I rather be a simpleton in my own lane w/ lil money than to be a stunning wheeling in liability
Rent a center exists for a reason
Sometimes you make so many poor decisions, Dave is basically speechless.
I am glad he doesn't laugh and I believe Dave has a reminder of his own stupid w/ zeros at the end to keep him humble. Maybe he framed the the (financial) notes that were called on him in his 20s that caused him to lose everything he had.
she could have bought a decent $5k used car
I know right
That would've made too much sense!
I was thinking the same thing lol
My bro in law just sold his Toyota corolla w/438K miles for $1000.
@@aolvaar8792 Wow how did he know it was 438k? My 2004 stopped counting at 300k.
Sad. This young lady probably has no role models. She doesn’t understand what’s possible. Making 25k not married with a baby and in debt is not living.
I'll tell you where she went wrong. She wanted everything at once. A baby, car, house, boyfriend,...basically everything.
@@mjbadboy14 Spot on. No concept of delayed gratification.
She got the hood interest rate
Lol
You ain't wrong bro😂😂
😂 😂 it’s funny because it’s true!!
Facts, I moved out the hood a year ago and 18% APR on Altimas and Chargers was the most common thing ever
For real. Nissan will qualify anyone.
I saw the title and went "yeesh!"
Same
When I saw the title! 👀
What do you mean
When I also heard “I’m pregnant” oof
My eye started twitching
The car people are not “idiots” they’re leeches. They’re not hurting for her ridiculous interest rate.
They’re idiots too because she’s at such a high risk of default
@@SK-gi8dj at 20%+ interest rate, her default risk is well covered.
@@SK-gi8dj
They’re not idiots and know exactly what they are doing.
They’re a bunch of crooks taking advantage of a young lady. She made a mistake but it’s ridiculous that they approved that loan.
I mean, at a broader level if enough people default on their loans that's what causes things like the 2008 crash. It's majorly irresponsible to approve someone for more debt than they can afford.
Dave Ramsey was literally at a loss for words. 😩
😂🤣 Fr
And that is extremely rare for him. EXTREMELY
He fears that if he find words he would become her Father.
The whole time hes thinking why did you decide to have a baby making minimum wage jobs!
I feel like they usually screen these types of calls out
Dave: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
🍗
Review brah???
Love Brah!!!
Terrible situation with the car and it turns out that's the smallest problem she's got.
I didn't even know interest rates could go this high. If your interest rate is double digits, big red flag.
21% is max in Massachusetts. It’s state law. Not sure of others
I was thinking the same! Is this a buy here finance here kinda place? Its robbery!
Every parent that has a daughter just CRINGED listening to this...
Every person whose not a financial idiot cringed
@@ShadowKiller71 ...😂😂
@@ShadowKiller71 I think the cringe mainly comes from being pregnant so young without even married to the boyfriend and both are already struggling without this car issue.
I thought my 4-6 percent interest rate was bad... good grief!
@Rachel Sheldon lol, it's utterly awful for a depreciating asset.
@@TheBlimp88 Nowhere near as bad as 26%, not even close. OP is admitting her 4-6% is bad, just not as bad as the caller. Context is key. 🔑
Same
@@JH-ot5mn So what if the car is worth $0, a minute after you buy it.
Drive it for 50-60 years,
My 1972 chevy truck is on its third engine.
and its an appreciating asset.
That's high lol. You need 1-2%
I make 75k a year and just paid 16k cash for a car and that seemed like way too much to pay for a car
you should take the bus are you mad
It is too much still.
My God this girl is the poster child for stereotypical bad decisions.
Stereotypes often are based on the truth.
Aww, how is that? Just because of the car?
and dave expects the man to pay off her debts lol
Birth control only hope
EMT school is only a semester long. Just finish the EMT school and continue to work at the grocery store.
Honestly with a baby coming EMTs only make $15/hr. Daycare is so expensive.
@@chrisreynolds6391 Depends nowhere you are at. MY area EMT's are not making that much.
@@mph5896 even in Cali EMTs only make $15-16 an hour.
Unless you go to Private service, you're not going to make much as an EMT. He's looking at making $30k - 38k at best.
@@chrisreynolds6391 still better than a grocery store
Her: I did a stupid thing.
Dave: Your boyfriend needs to man up!
exactly, blaming the bf for her decisions
Well uuuuuuuuh, that guy DID get her PREGNANT and now her problems are his problems.
Unfortunately the small amount of child support she would get in my opinion would not help her get out of this. Doesn’t sound to me like he’s all that invested in her. I hope I’m wrong but if he was he’d be helping her with the payment already!!
26%... god give me strength
What do these people think?
I think previously the highest interest rate for a car on the Dave Ramsey show was 25%- congrats, you broke the record!
@Dave Kop you don’t understand sarcasm, do you? 😂
Shouldn't this be considered usury?
@@hastycontemplation you'd think, he also had an elderly lady call in about a personal loan with an 80% interest rate
I wish we would see more follow ups with some of these callers 6mos - a year later to see how things turned out.
YESS! EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN SUGGESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with you Brandon to see who actually followed the advice given and the productivity the have made.
Or even better get both sides of the story for a COMPLETE picture. Dave dogs on the BF without having any insight to his story
@@bigchills7194 true.
@@bigchills7194 it's how it is when it comes to men and women. Women are treated like puppies with no brain and ability to work. It's so insulting
I like how Dave blames the guy for the car 😂
He blamed her too. "You were desperate for a car and just signed whatever they put in front of you."
Bc Dave believes men should take care of their families especially if a baby is coming.
Dave is pretty respectful to his callers when he knows they are going through a hard time. They’re asking for help and he’s there to provide a word of advice
That's Dave for you! Doesnt matter..blame the man. lol
The TH-cam commenters are pretty notorious for calling Dave a Simp. I’m not gonna lie, but I do tend to agree with that statement sometimes.
Yes!!! I love when Dave gets right to it and is extra serious with every “freaking” used. More people need that straight-shooter who speaks truth.
Nice comment .... Where are you from ?
Dave's "tough love" speech! 😀
This is probably one of those cars with a GPS-enabled black box that can remotely disable the car from starting if the person misses a car payment.
You know it. Straight up hood loan.
Those auto loan rates are borderline criminal
Why? This is America! She messed up!
$1500 car is a bad choice. Most of the time people sell cars for that cheap is because it has all kinda of issues. You will end up paying hundreds of dollars in keeping it running.
*thousands*
Very sad call 😔..
It's really interesting to see the clash in generational thinking. Dave insists upon marriage, whereas to the 21 year old, that isn't even a thought in her mind. Despite being pregnant and living with a man.
You get more welfare unmarried...
It’s because marriage is outdated being legally bonded to each other probably had a lot of bad experiences of seeing other married couples but she really made bad choices and marriage will no fix any of this
Dave's vision of her at 31 didn't include a bitter divorce, but that's what he sentanced that family to.
Makes you wonder
As a taxpayer, I don’t feel like supporting her kid. I’m single, I wanted kids, but I didn’t have them because I didn’t marry and couldn’t afford to do it on my own. I have to drag myself work every day to earn my living and pay a ton in tax. I’m tired and I don’t think I should have to pay for other peoples’ kids.
Dave when he hears the interest rate “You got messed over didn’t you?”
Yep because the word that fits is too hot for TV
😂 true!!
It's one of those calls where all of the air leaves the room multiple times.
Dave’s solution: Marry your boyfriend so he has to pay off your debt.
Dave's solution: Grow up and start making adult decisions for yourself and more importantly your child.
Sad, but she is proving the previous video on statistics. Hopefully they make it and get past it.
Agree with Dave.....if you’re man enough to make a baby, you need to start providing quickly.
Bingo
And if you're woman enough to make a baby?
Takes two to tango... ya know ... women’s rights and women’s lib ? They don’t want a “man” anymore
Get married? Tf he on🤣 “you got a finance problem? Get married “😂💩
I feel her pain. When I was her age I did the exact same thing, but it was a 18k loan and 21 percent interest. Will never do that again. Good luck to her.
After listening to Dave for over two years I can say that this is a really bad situation. Usually Dave gives a plan to follow and what to do afterwards.
The car company knew since day one that she couldn’t pay for it. They made a profit and they will keep the car
Nobody forced her to sign the contract on the loan. Every company is for profit. 🤷♂️
@@Wellington205i that's not profit, it's theft!!
usury?
@@Wellington205i exactly!!
I got the vibes that even though the bf is there, he isn’t exactly “in the picture”. He kindOf just doing his own thing. Dave had to drag the boyfriend factor out of her. I hope he is really trying to walk down this path with her and that she gets out of this mess. 😕
He works full time, takes classes towards a better job, and has no debt. She is buying things she can’t afford by financing at terrible rates. What makes him the loser in this scenario?
@@As_A________Commenter you're exactly right here but this is just Dave's preconceived perceptions very anti-male lately as he's gotten older
Crazy people do this. Get established before trying to have a family.
I've seen a lot of people buy cars they can't afford either because they want to look wealthy driving a newer car or because they don't understand the cost of keeping that car. I've been an automotive technician for years and I daily drive a 92 Acura Integra for a reason. I saw a guy drop off a V12 Mercedes Benz at the shop I used to work at and he never picked up the car because he didn't have the money to pay for the services performed.
A lot of people are so concerned about what they look like in the eyes of strangers.
I have a problem with Dave putting the onus solely on the man. Is she not an adult? Is she not engaging in adult activity? Is she at all responsible for her bad decisions? I mean gimme a break. This ain't 1950s anymore.
But she is carrying the man’s child. I am sure the boyfriend is benefiting from the car that she bought. They are living together, so they ate sharing bills. She is struggling and it will get worse because she is pregnant. She will eventually have to stop working for a bit to tend to the child. How is she partnered with a man but struggling as if she is pregnant by a random guy she doesn’t remember that’s isn’t around.
Im sorry Dave but them getting married is not gonna fix anything.
Correct. But getting on the same page with her other partner, who also has an income and is not pregnant, is the best chance she has, and marriage may be the impetus he needs to start treating the caller and her child as his family and his responsibility.
Its based on dave’s principle of dont join finances if not married. And he held the bf responsible for the family since they are having a baby soon. If the guy is not into it then whats the point of living together. Thats dave’s principle if you watch lots of his episode.
This is Philip McGraw advice
Unless she has a friend or family member that is willing to do her a solid, she isn't going to find a car for $1500 that isn't going to continually drain money from her pocket. She should refinance the loan.
That’s what I was thinking. My parents bought my sister a car for $5k and had to do about $11k in repairs on it. Dave was thinking back to when he was younger
In the guys defense, because we don't hear from him at all, maybe he has wanted to tie the knot, and she was the one who didn't? Jumping to conclusions is never a good idea without more knowledge.
Doubt it, there’s a more chance of him bailing with the talk of marriage n quit school esp if he’s ambitious
True....but you kow that this is what we don on SM lol. It makes us feel better about ourselves.
He sounds selfish low key...he needs to take care of his kid.
@@ab6551 where does the selfishness come in? I listened back to it again and we hear very little about him but what is said is they aren't married (no idea why), he is in EMT school, and he is working at a grocery store (no idea how many hours), and also no debt. even if we assume that he isn't working 40 hours a week I don't hear anything that says selfishness. as you say he needs to take care of his kid he is going to school so that he can make more money, he is working while he goes to school to provide and he has at least had the financial literacy to not bring debt into the relationship. I might be missing something and there is a lot we don't know, but I would love to hear your thoughts on where the selfishness is in what they said.
@@j.asmrgaming1228 hey my friend don't you know it's popular to be anti-male nowadays
Once again…You can’t fix stupid. Here’s Exhibit A…
Let’s not also forget that she’s only 21, pregnant and unmarried with a boyfriend who also doesn’t have his priorities in order. Of course, all of us will be paying for this irresponsible mess with our taxes. Only in ‘Murica….
Get an adult trike with a basket, eat beans n rice and learn to code.
Agreed 100% with this.^
WOAH, you know its badddd when Dave asks “can your family help you with that [$4k loan]?”
Just telling them to get married? great advice, and the kids got no debt but he's already an absent father apparently for working full time and going to school to make MORE money. "I don't know if it's the right time for that" as if his EMT school is some kind of self gratifying indulgence, it's literally how he is going to support his family eventually.
eventually doesn't mean much when the kid is due in a few months and she has a huge loan right now.
@@Kysen10 ultimately the debt is on her and not the father. From what i hear the father is doing whatever he needs to do to survive.
And provide for his family
This is really sad! I feel bad for the baby she’s gonna have.
It's really not that bad of a situation. All depends on the maturity, work ethic and ambition of the father. I hope he's a responsible man.
@@saulgoodman2018 Why.... what?
She has a lot of problems especially in the foreseen future. It is sad.
@@saulgoodman2018 because the girl made lots of poor choices
Love the calls where the car or student loans are close to or exceed the callers annual income.
1500 will buy you a car that you will be constantly repairing
Time for the reality check on this caller. You and the baby daddy are in no position financially or mentally to raise a child. Give the kid up for adoption and get your life in order first. No reason to bring a kid into your disaster of a situation. From the sound of it the are many years away from a stable life on their own.
Sad but true. I can’t imagine giving my flesh and blood away, but they should have been more responsible.
I hear onlyfans is paying
She would probably make more money than she's ever touched in life too
If that was the case then only fans would be nothing but black 20 years old for people with knocked up fetish
Fr
Jesus is watching
Love how Dave tell it like it is. Period
I Drive the same Rusty Honda Civic for nearly 10 years. It wasnt Rusty when i bought it but it is now. Still a decent car and it does the job. People don't understand that the purpose of a car is to take you from one point to another, not to show off. I invest 15% of my salary into my portfolio.
@@Runco990 Yep, you know it. The moment you leave the car dealearship, it looses value.
Not eveyone sees the purpose of a car to go from A to B. Some people actually enjoy driving. And others, unfortunately for them, get a car to show off.
@@erwina4738 If you have to money to Buy a good car, well good for you. The problem is most people go in debt to Buy one.
I just financed my first car (brand new, ordered) almost a year ago at 23 years old. I got a 72 month loan at 3.9% interest (they offered the 60 month loan at 2.9% but I chose the longer loan for lower payments despite the interest) and I thought that interest was high. I can’t even fathom paying double digit interest on an auto loan.
An easy realization would be, 3.9% on 20k is about $2 a day in interest, a 25% on 20k is about $15 a day in interest. $60/month vs $450/month it’s insane
My daily dose of motivation. At 65.7% progress as of today. Expect to be done by xmas. I can hardly contain myself. Thank you Dave.
I'm sorry, but this is where Dave is out of touch. Marriage is not what it was 30 years ago. These are young kids that made poor decisions. I'd bet money they're in puppy love, and at each others throats at the same time.
I would say, lady you are still young listening to Dave and ready to turn things around and good news is you have whole life ahead of you to make it right.
I used to drive a used 4.5k kia when I started working. Water used to leak from windows when it rained and my colleagues called it water mobile. Things are much better now but I do remember those days 😊
Dave is such a traditional and good man!
Nice comment .... Where are you from ?
She bought the car at a buy here, pay here place 😳
She gonna struggle for a long time in the situation she’s in.
I walked through a repo auction yard yesterday. Every single one of the cars were beat down, high mileage, toilets. Interiors were filthy, body dented/dinged, damaged. Mechanically broken in many ways. The people who financed them put themselves in that position (there are a few exceptions) to get their cars repoed.
I can't say that getting married is the right answer. Having a child with someone doesn't mean that you should get married. I understand the benefits of marriage etc etc but I can't agree that getting married because of a child is the right thing either
It’s not a lot of children from married families have a twisted concept of love because when couples are forced to stay together because they have to it screws up a child father being unmarried if they’re unhappy they can leave and if they’re grown up enough won’t take it out on the child and focus on them and themselves
two words.. Birth Control
schools dont teach birth control or finance... both are killing her right now
@@dagobaker I could not agree more!
One of very few videos where Dave didn’t know what to say and asked the Ramsey personality to help him out lol
I always say join the military. I join when I was 25 y/o and don't regret it one bit. family is taken care of and make decent money. not rich now but will be when I retire. thanks you Mr. Ramsey.
Grocery store wont pay bills. He needs a better job no natter if in school or not. Get out from under car, share a car if possible.
@@saulgoodman2018 yes but needs job(s) that pays bills in the mean time too.
@@saulgoodman2018 this is a false belief. Many i know can make over 40k without. I'm not against educating & learning skills. But work ethic will ultimately determine what you really make & really bring home at the end of the day. So yes, i'm glad he's trying to better circumstances for the future. But that doesnt pay present bills. And he has a little one on the way. It'd benefit all three for him to improve job now & not wait til child is already born. So a better paying job now til emt position is able to be taken up would be wise. Even if it's $2 more/hr is still more than he's able to bring home now. Not sure why some1 would be against that. ?
@@saulgoodman2018 who said he cant do both?
Why is Dave telling them to get married? That’s terrible advice just because you have a kid doesn’t mean you need to get married
I bet they kept the car. He stayed in school. Now they still owe the car but it is reliable and they're not giving it up.
Married by Friday? 😆. He gone. 😆🤣.
With a $1500 car she can do deliveries for auto stores or Uber eats. You don't need a nice car for that
I think driving for Uber you need a nicer vehicle but there’s DoorDash and post mates she can double dip and she can get exercise from walking up the porches for the baby but once her feet become swollen it’s going to be a pain for her
Bought cash cars only from 18-27 years old . Best financial decision to start my adulthood
I call that the million dollar car, it will help you become a millionaire by not having a car payment so you can instead invest that money. I have a million dollar car.
$500 says she keeps that car
“Take the bit in his mouth.”
A perfect metaphor for men getting married.
When Dave says, "I'm going to tell you what I'm really thinking....", we know it's about to get real REAL up in there.
holy train wreck...... man i'm so happy this isn't me. I hope she can pull it through, gonna be a tough road.
Dave's advice is right on!!
She is a Hispanic and this happens all the time. She probably misunderstood what the dealership was offering her because the salesman knew American English and she cannot comprehend English fully. :'( Sad state of affairs. This gal should sue!
Really? She's speaking great English and has no problem understanding Dave and Christy...but she should sue a car lot for giving her a contract she agreed to.....because the salesman knew "American English?" COME ON MAN.
How did we come to the conclusion that she’s Hispanic? Did I miss something? Her English sounds fluent to me. No matter what ethnicity she is, people make dumb financial decisions every day.
@@ajh.4131 Oh you would know. I grew up in CA and she is definitely Hispanic and judging by the age she was impregnated at and the pauses...
It is something you recognize if you have been around them for a while.
My heart goes out to her. Some tough lessons😞
"EMT school" is about ONE semester. He should be about done.
"The car needs to go. Bye bye!" Simple as that.
I have to disagree with Dave on this one. This is not his problem, he needs to get his education asap to better his position. If he has to pay child support, well it would be pennies on the dollar from his minimum wage.
How does she even get that high intrest
Predatory businesses that thrive on financially illiterate people. Simple as that.
She could have gotten a better rate, but that's the rate that was put in front of her and she signed...
She got scammed
@@ominous450 it’s robbery man
It comes off like she doesn't want to marry this guy. Which I could understand but then you shouldn't have had a kid with him eather lol.
That's exactly what I was thinking. And this is exactly why playing house is a bad idea. It leads to be situations and then inevitably the relationship fail and now you have to spend your time in custody disagreements.
It's just generally a path to things that are not good at all.
She said ‘vee-hi-cle ‘ like Dave Ramsey
He only hires those that do.
Is there any other way to pronounce it?
Curious, how else do you say that?
@@Aimeesund I pronounce it without the emphasis of the “h”. For me, it’s just vee-i-cle.
@@ajh.4131 like the rest of the English speaking world
I pray to God my daughter will never have to go through this, I have been broke and I know what it’s like.
Papa Dave advising a young mom to drive her baby around in a hooptie. Solid Advise.
This is why my first car was only 4000 dls. I was 18 yo at the time.
I was in a similar situation for about 6 months (not pregnant) but I was tired of driving and breaking down every couple of weeks on the way to work. Ended up refinancing and got a much better deal all the way around. Dropped my payments more than half and went from 24% to 6%… It is doable but takes a bit of extra work and a lot of patience. I thank God that he gave me the strength.
Now I have a great reliable vehicle and don’t stress every time I head to work wondering if I’m going to make it.
"Get married by Friday" 🤣😂 I'll use that line on my next boyfriend.
Dave is such a good guy.
I’m 19. I nearly went and bought a 15k car. Thankfully tho out of nowhere I just decided to buy a car for $2000 it’s not the best but having that freedom of not paying anything at the end of the month is the best feeling ever. It’s made me vow to only buy a car in cash or if I’m financing I’ll put 95% of the cash as down payment. Mortgage is headache and I wouldn’t want car payments to add on that.
I love Papa Dave!
This is what happens when kids have kids. No 21 year old should be having a child in this day and age. Especially, not one that makes decisions like a 26% interest rate on a car note. Gimme a break. Also, that boyfriend doesn't care because he's too young to care for it. She's simply another girl for him at the moment. The same goes for her. That's why she didn't even mention him until Dave asked. I wouldn't be surprised if they break up in a couple of months. What a mess!
Preach! 110% agree
Come on guys, she works 40 hours and is pregnant. Telling her to get another job is wrong.
they didnt realize she was living with the father of the kid
Boyfriend needs to marry her tomorrow and then join the military.
and he'd be away months at a time, may not wish to be in the military or marry her, ever consider that?
@@cloudedcolour5329 it's not an easy profession, but it will help him to grow up.
US Army Retired.
@@jvolstad and being an EMT isnt easy either, but marrying someone just because they got pregnant is a awful idea, plus its their choice
@@cloudedcolour5329 wonder if he told his girlfriend that before they started sleeping together.
Would be cool if he explained the downward trend of a car's value VS the upward trend of your total payments with a compoundin high interest rate . Helps you visualize the swath or gap you create, most cars are money pits
Clearly getting that car was not a smart move but I wish there was something that protected young people from being taken advantage of like that. Aside from common sense.
There is, it's called parenting. Teach your kids the right path and they wont fall for stupid traps like this
I was never taught either so I fell under the car loan trap aswell at a young age
@@mr.boostang2064 exactly I fell for the car trap too still paying them off but never again will I fall for it no matter how many email and letter they send me
I feel sorry for these people's family. That kid is most likely going to live a hard life....
@@saulgoodman2018 I can't tell if you're joking
They can have a good life if they pull up their bootstraps and get some fire in their bellies lol
This is what generational poverty looks like.
@@saulgoodman2018 statistically it increases the chances of ending up with a broken home, which has it's own issues and leads to poverty much more than if you just were married. If you can avoid it, it's best to do so.
@@saulgoodman2018 Good luck in life with that mindset.