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  • @scrippsnews
    @scrippsnews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More here: www.scrippsnews.com/scripps-news-investigates/surprise-costs-at-major-auto-lender-drive-borrowers-deeper-into-debt

    • @GNewcomb-q9v
      @GNewcomb-q9v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why don’t you do one on byrider? They are crooks! They told my spouse & I we only needed a $200 down payment. When they started the paperwork, they said we owed $2,000 more & that would be added to the by weekly payments! They even tried doing the old used car tricks to make the car seem like it was running good! My spouse went along with it & the car started acting up the same evening she drove it home!
      Needless to say I got her to take it back & drop it off as we would find another second car!

  • @Weekbrownies
    @Weekbrownies 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +403

    The red flag should have when she saw a 25% interest rate

    • @jaehparrk
      @jaehparrk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      red flag is her being single mom of 3 wheres da dad

    • @AKAAAK
      @AKAAAK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@jaehparrkDid you ever think that maybe her husband passed away?

    • @esteban1487
      @esteban1487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@AKAAAKThey would have said that. Sympathy ploy.

    • @jayson657
      @jayson657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@AKAAAK if her husband passed away she would be collecting his social security for all 3 kids until they’re 16.

    • @michaelwenzel1839
      @michaelwenzel1839 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@jayson65718 actually (and if they're still in highschool the kids themselves will get them until they graduate). Far cry from "$12/hr".
      Should've bought a $5,000 car instead, could easily have been found in the pre-pandemic days.

  • @danrace44
    @danrace44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    The scariest part about this is the lady who makes bad financial decisions and got herself in a giant mess is now a real estate agent advising people on the largest financial decision they’ll ever make you should really have a credit score threshold to be able to be a realtor

    • @smallfaucet
      @smallfaucet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      She's not selling advice but houses.

    • @leedaniels7196
      @leedaniels7196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      YIKES!!.

    • @DwightStJohn-t7y
      @DwightStJohn-t7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      In my area women are "realtors" to CLAiM they have a job. It's only a job if you're deep into the legal and hard competition.

    • @Enronauditor
      @Enronauditor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@smallfaucetthey definitely give advice. They market all day long about how you shouldn’t rent and that rates and prices may go up so buy buy buy now

    • @TuttTutt-l4b
      @TuttTutt-l4b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nearly every realtor I’ve known has a shady background.

  • @danhummel84
    @danhummel84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    She signed the loan, she didn't read the documents, or didn't care, then she didn't make the payments on time. Of course she blames anyone but herself.

    • @RalphNorton-x9p
      @RalphNorton-x9p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      personal responsibility should always be a thing, but there are many layers to this onion

    • @leedaniels7196
      @leedaniels7196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What you said,i was thinking 🤔

    • @gulfgypsy
      @gulfgypsy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Just like student who sign for student loans then want others (taxpayers) to absorb the debt and pay for it?

    • @DwightStJohn-t7y
      @DwightStJohn-t7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only that, her whole "rhetoric" surrounds her life: I "needed" a car for medical appointments for my "special needs" child., yadda yadda. So, where is the HERDSIRE in all of this?? This sounds like she's talking to her welfare counsellor. Do I LOOK like your "farewell" counsellor???

    • @daynasafranek7807
      @daynasafranek7807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      True, but she needed a car. Sometimes our need can override our judgement. It’s clearly an issue with this company because they are a bad lender. She ended up paying more than the sticker price and allowed it to be repossessed. I think she learned her lesson, “mom”… sheesh. I was a bill collector and you have to be a bit human, too.

  • @MrBobconner1952
    @MrBobconner1952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    It's difficult to think of a sleazier industry than auto sales/finance.

    • @AKAAAK
      @AKAAAK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Insurance industry........

    • @mastercraftsman4213
      @mastercraftsman4213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Government has got them beat by far

    • @AKAAAK
      @AKAAAK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mastercraftsman4213 oh, that's a good one 👍

    • @zjones9876
      @zjones9876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      People with bad credit need cars. It's either that or they can't borrow money.

    • @tedhadley62
      @tedhadley62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Organized religion

  • @raymondcaylor6292
    @raymondcaylor6292 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    WOW. She financed a 15K used car for 6 year's at 25% interest. Monthly payment of $400 without even factoring any down payment or tax, title fees that's $28,800 in payment dollar's for the life of the loan. At $12 per hour she'd have to work more than 1 day every week to make her payment. No gas, no insurance, no maintenance costs figured in just 33.3 hours of work out of 160 hours a month to pay her car note. Based on $12 per hour and her child tax credits & low income tax credit and assuming she gets housing benefits keeping her housing cost at 25% of take home she need to spend no more than $194 per month on auto loan. So she's paying $200 a month more than she legitimately can afford. It's not rocket science it's just math and a budget.

    • @FogelsChannel
      @FogelsChannel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "The saleswoman never told me that. It's her fault she tricked me into signing contracts I didn't understand."

    • @djm2189
      @djm2189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FogelsChanneltale as old as time.

    • @Blue_Star_flyer
      @Blue_Star_flyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      get your life in order prior to having children. Maybe she thought she did. She says nothing was explained to her. She's a grown up, do the research prior to signing contracts.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FogelsChannel While its true, these sorts of things should be legally required to be disclosed before signing. The burden of who is at fault is mostly this single mothers, albeit not entirely.

    • @dwai1967
      @dwai1967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The lender knew this as well. Prime example of a predatory sub-prime lender.

  • @j887276
    @j887276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    Honestly this is a general lack of personal accountability, common sense & financial literacy. Gotta be responsible for your life & choices 🤷‍♂️

    • @RalphNorton-x9p
      @RalphNorton-x9p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      personal responsibility should always be a thing, but there are many layers to this onion

    • @j887276
      @j887276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@RalphNorton-x9p Just one layer for a responsible person who makes good decisions & maintains control of their life and finances.

    • @missylearned9821
      @missylearned9821 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Until you have a special needs child, you don’t understand the financial holes you can fall into. It’s rare that the family stays intact and financially solvent. I’m gonna give her grace based on that alone.

    • @RalphNorton-x9p
      @RalphNorton-x9p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@j887276 right.... because nothing bad ever happens to responsible people who make good decisions. just do the right thing and work hard and only positive things happen to you. you are living in a fairy tale

    • @dope1974
      @dope1974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@missylearned9821 This. It’s astounding how insensitive people are and quick to judge others. She is a single mother with three kids - we don’t know the circumstances surrounding her financial woes.

  • @GeeGee19
    @GeeGee19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    This is why i keeps my 2017 kia soul with 37,000 miles thats paid off. Having no payment feels real good

    • @donwyoming1936
      @donwyoming1936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Bought my 2007 F-150 for 0% interest. Been paid off since 2011. So are my 2010, and 2014s.

    • @weldinggirl
      @weldinggirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donwyoming1936pre maintenance is key!!

    • @g.t.richardson6311
      @g.t.richardson6311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donwyoming1936 3 2012 fords
      Paid off years ago

    • @yomoma6141
      @yomoma6141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GeeGee19 37,000 miles is basically new

    • @mmp495
      @mmp495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's practically new! Good going. 🎉

  • @MiguelDiaz-zk8dk
    @MiguelDiaz-zk8dk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    It’s sad to see that people don’t read contracts and don’t educate themselves on what they are signing then blame the companies. The fiancé added the payments and realized they had paid the cost of the car but still owed on the loan??? It’s called interest, lenders are in the business of making money, if you want to only pay the price tag then save and pay cash.

    • @DwightStJohn-t7y
      @DwightStJohn-t7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AND she's now in real estate??? You almost have to be a lawyer in California. In our house sale to a known buyer, we used our family LAWYER.

    • @djm2189
      @djm2189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Literally! I was, bro that's called interest. It's not a 0% loan 😂

  • @zjones9876
    @zjones9876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    $12 an hour? I don't know when this was filmed but the WaWa down the street from me pays $18 an hour if you have a pulse and can manage to get to work not on drugs.

    • @ozzierabbit587
      @ozzierabbit587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I wouldn't consider $12/hr worth getting out of bed for unless I was desperate.

    • @Xx-po1fu
      @Xx-po1fu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ozzierabbit587 She was and still is desperate

    • @eMDiKhamPha
      @eMDiKhamPha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That pay amt is so 7+ years ago. With inflation, people can't live on $12/hr 😮

    • @YESITSWILL
      @YESITSWILL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love WaWa! Convenience Store Nirvana.

    • @wturner777
      @wturner777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour since 2009.

  • @carolr7823
    @carolr7823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Even with a good interest rate, she couldn't afford that car with her salary. She should have tried to purchase a much cheaper car.

    • @hwhack
      @hwhack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She should try birth control.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She could get a decent old Japanese car with over 200k miles on it. Presuming she finds one thats got a good history and gets a reliable mechanic to inspect it. $2,000-$9,000 hopefully, better than $15k+ a scam and all sorts predatory interest and fees. Korean vehicles are iffy, better than some but eh.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@user-gz4ve8mw9l- anything less than what she got, and she for sure would be inheriting someone else's lemon. 200k miles? Why even bother

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Why would you have 3 kids if you are only making $12 an hour and have no car???

    • @myohmy0
      @myohmy0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Because the republikkans would start calling her a childless cat lady!

    • @myohmy0
      @myohmy0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      jjj

    • @KE-zk4kc
      @KE-zk4kc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly. This is ridiculous.

    • @AtomicDog-v2d
      @AtomicDog-v2d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kamalenomics..

    • @brianal7143
      @brianal7143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Maybe at one time she had a husband? Sometimes things happen in life

  • @johnmike7809
    @johnmike7809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    You can buy a 2000 ish Toyota Camery ~ 100 k miles. For $5k. Might have a few stains, won’t be perfect, but it will get you A to B.

    • @Nikaplustwo
      @Nikaplustwo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If I had 3 -5 thousand dollars easier said lol

    • @johnmike7809
      @johnmike7809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      $5000 loan is ~ $100 a month

    • @johnmike7809
      @johnmike7809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Way to figure a way to lose.

    • @klwarhouse
      @klwarhouse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johnmike7809 This would be a 60 month loan @ 5% interest. Banks don't give out loans like this on 20 year old commuter cars with 100k miles.

    • @dmichael100
      @dmichael100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnmike7809 Auto lenders/finance companies generally won't loan money on a car that old. You might get a car like that financed at a "buy here pay here: lot but the terms are no better than Exeter- if that.

  • @Ice_Solid
    @Ice_Solid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Please, that is on her

    • @analienfromouterspace
      @analienfromouterspace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Pretty much, her life choices is her misery. She can get much lower rate at a dealership!

  • @magnificent.ent.3228
    @magnificent.ent.3228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    This lady is clearly financially uneducated. She willingly signed a 25% interest loan over the course of years. No matter what item you buy 25% interest in crazy and you will be over paying for that item over the course of years. I am 25 yrs old and follow Dave Ramsey, and this lady needs him as well.
    Also for her to ask for her loan to STOP for some months and not have to worry about the interest or payment is crazy and selfish. She needs to learn financial education, And stand by the loan she desperately needed for her family. They saved her with a car when she needed one if you ask me.

    • @Phtalvyriz
      @Phtalvyriz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My credit card's interest rate isn't even that high

    • @weldinggirl
      @weldinggirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh that is awesome, I try and tell everyone about Dave Ramsey, like majority of ppl just need alittle help and guidance, I definitely did

    • @mattthomas4533
      @mattthomas4533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Completely agree!

  • @tsunamijapan7091
    @tsunamijapan7091 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Apparently they charge the highest interest rate for a reason. I'm deeply sympathetic to this lady's problems, but she acknowledged herself that she almost defaulted on this loan. And how many do default on it? This is a for profit compan..y

  • @truelife974
    @truelife974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I just can't fathom having a car payment. The thought alone strickens me with overwhelming anxiety!

  • @irishcherokee8884
    @irishcherokee8884 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    When I was a young man and poor & started a family and life with my wife we didn’t have enough food. We lost weight. Especially me. One day my son asked why do we always eat beans and why won’t you eat some hotdog. Decades later he still doesn’t know how poor we were. Thank you Lord for providing so abundantly for us .

    • @DwightStJohn-t7y
      @DwightStJohn-t7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ketchup sandwiches. If I ever write my early years, that was it.

    • @brianal7143
      @brianal7143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙌🏾 awesome testimony

    • @MrTmenzo
      @MrTmenzo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even being dirt poor you had a wife, good for you 🤝

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DwightStJohn-t7y Thats poison you are better off not eating anything then. I'm sorry you were in such a terrible point, where you were unable to afford food.

  • @jvolstad
    @jvolstad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Where is the father of these children? Why isn't he helping?

    • @stinkysanchez31
      @stinkysanchez31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Im sure he's paying child support it's not his job to support her lifestyle

  • @mw4507
    @mw4507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    well, making a loan to a single mother that makes $12 an hour is also increadibly risky for the lender as well. I can understand the high intrerest rate because it reflects the high risk the lender has to take on. If you cap interest rates, this lady would be walking.

  • @mattthomas4533
    @mattthomas4533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I don’t get it. She’s subprime. She wouldn’t get a loan or car otherwise. Of course if you’re subprime you will pay higher rates than those who have good credit. Your rates are higher because you have a history of not paying people back or on time. I don’t see the issue here with the finance company.

    • @dkdjr2005
      @dkdjr2005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly! It really seems like the company takes SUPER subprime people. Then, if you don't pay, instead of taking the car they push your payments back. I get that they still charge interest but the alternative is that you don't have a car that it seems that you desperately need. I don't see an issue either.

  • @lisamay4376
    @lisamay4376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Don’t just blame Exeter. Blame the used car dealer for dealing with a loan company like that.

    • @Enronauditor
      @Enronauditor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So car prices should fall to $2,000 just because irresponsible people have financially wrecked their lives?

  • @generalbroadhead1760
    @generalbroadhead1760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    When she became a single mom of 3 kids…..did they come out of nowhere?

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s so many of these stories. Single mom, 8 kids, 7 of which are special needs, no credit, no money, buys the worst car from the worst dealer. Doesn’t read the Truth In Lending info.

    • @kd7334
      @kd7334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She may have been married and got a divorce

    • @Dizzymarvel
      @Dizzymarvel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don’t breed em’ if you can’t feed em’

    • @Blue_Star_flyer
      @Blue_Star_flyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      seems so many have babies THEN try to figure out how to provide for them. Difficult to work when you have children, esp if a single parent. We waited till we were 28 to have children, finished college, bought a house, had an emergency savings, large life insurance then added our children to our lives. It's so much more simple not having to worry about the business of trying to keep our heads above water and focus on our children and our life.

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Blue_Star_flyer definitely. Raising kids is tough even when your life is mostly sorted out and you have a spouse, a home, a good job. It’s still no picnic. You really have to get your life in order before bringing kids into this world.

  • @shortstraw4
    @shortstraw4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    She became a real estate agent. The scammie becomes the scammer 😂

    • @wturner777
      @wturner777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There are honest agents out there.

    • @tamarastone141
      @tamarastone141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She obviously isn't too bright..she could never be my agent!

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She'll definitely make more money as a real estate agent. Yes most of them are scammers. Even the ones who aren't are in it for profits first or exclusively.

  • @YESITSWILL
    @YESITSWILL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I used to date a woman who routinely bought cars with a 25% interest rate. She would buy the car, not make any payments, and then surrender it before the repo hearing. She didnt care how high the payment was because she knew she wasn't going to pay it. That's why this business exists.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eventually she'll be unable to keep doing that. Not even loan sharks will give her the time of day.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least she surrenders it. Somw of these types of people don't and get repossessed. That's why some dealers put tra king devices on the cars.

  • @damonlawrence3700
    @damonlawrence3700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It’s amazing how people freely sign contracts and take out loans and then want to whine and cry about the terms after the fact. Just exalt the borrower of all responsibility and blame the loan company, and where is her baby daddy? Why is he not helping get his kid to whatever treatment the kid needs?

    • @mchristr
      @mchristr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The word would be "exempt" but I get your point.

  • @consumerdebtchitchat
    @consumerdebtchitchat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not defending her lack of responsibility. But it's also not unusual when children are born with disabilities that the husband will leave and stick the kids on the mom.

  • @joeapplhead8614
    @joeapplhead8614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That has been the norm for used cars around 21% . I have always questioned as why the government is ok with letting lenders charge more of used cars. I get it has to do with high risk but it's definitely a steep amount of money.

  • @timothythompson4036
    @timothythompson4036 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She didn't ask what the interest rate was on the loan. If she had asked the sales person would have been required to explain it was 25% interest.

  • @Ay-B
    @Ay-B 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    There's no such thing as a free lunch. Why didn't she ask questions about what affect the extentions would have?

    • @Aki_Lesbrinco
      @Aki_Lesbrinco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A lot of people in our society think that they don't need to do their due diligence and that it's other people's responsibility to spoon feed them all the answers. I don't know how people like this lady survive, let alone how the raise children.

    • @leedaniels7196
      @leedaniels7196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She didn’t do the math,i guess….

    • @Enronauditor
      @Enronauditor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She didn’t care. She’s spending the money elsewhere just happy they didn’t repo it

    • @Resultsnottalk
      @Resultsnottalk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She did not have a lot of options. Easy for everyone to say " I told you so ". These financial companies are predators and should change their ways. We need to see how much the upper management is making

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Does no one have any financial literacy?

    • @JAMAICANGOLD567
      @JAMAICANGOLD567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It comes down to Pride
      I drive a old 90s vw it's great on gas it has rust.i Posted the car for sale last yr people laughed at me.
      Some people pride will keep them broke.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JAMAICANGOLD567 Whats the model for the 90s vw? I drive a 2008 vw with peeling paint and other cosmetic issues. Been driving it since 2008 and will hopefully continue to until 2036-2038 range. Mine has cost a fortune in maintenance due to being in the north and having no garage unfortunately.

  • @martinboersma6313
    @martinboersma6313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    And she and her husband can now afford two cars thanks to a different lender. Wonder how that will work out in the future.

    • @Chrylgirl
      @Chrylgirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Amazing, isn’t it. New guy and everything is cool… until he leaves.

  • @TC-cd5sm
    @TC-cd5sm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    She willingly signed for a 25% loan. Even if she needed a vehicle for her kids, she could have gone other routes including borrowing money from relatives (not ideal). Anything is better than the Exeter loan.

    • @MrMtanz
      @MrMtanz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’m betting it’s not too much of a stretch that she likely does not have anyone on her personal life that could lend her that much money to help her out.

    • @Eric_Bassett
      @Eric_Bassett 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Lol good luck with that.. you think the average American has a family member that will just give them 7-10 grand so they can go buy a car ? It’s rough all over, if you are in need of a loan from Exeter you likely don’t have the sort of family behind you that can help you to that extent. It’s the bad loan, or the bus sadly for most.

    • @brianal7143
      @brianal7143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Eric_Bassettright. And Exeter knows the people signing up for their loans were desperate. People tend to make bad decisions when desperate

    • @Dizzymarvel
      @Dizzymarvel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Of she could have bought a cheap car for around $3k until she got her money up. Oh well

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doubt her relatives have any money either

  • @darrylnelson05
    @darrylnelson05 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What she needed was a lower car payment not an extension of a high interest rate auto loan. She and other borrowers are setup to fail. Then they say see you are a credit risk, not oh if we had lowered the payment you would not have fallen behind. Subprime loans are criminal.

  • @TheVsingh2
    @TheVsingh2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    2023 Kia Rio MSRP was $18-19,000. Why is she paying $15,000 for a used one ?

    • @jayh6900
      @jayh6900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Lady ain't qualifying for most normal loans

    • @blkmacster
      @blkmacster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Car Max

    • @landshass2849
      @landshass2849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Some people are under the assumption that used cars are cheaper than new ones.

    • @jeffmiesen
      @jeffmiesen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@landshass2849-They typically are. The problem is people never research how much a car should cost and let dealerships run all over them.

    • @shelbynamels973
      @shelbynamels973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the car was a 2016 model. she bought in 2017. Wonder if that was a CPO from a Kia dealer.

  • @JohnSmith-ct1nb
    @JohnSmith-ct1nb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We also need to focus on unscrupulous car dealerships that are incentivized to push certain lender’s products for the benefit of the dealership. This happened to me with very high credit score, they pushed a certain bank and I asked with a credit score over 800, I wasn’t offered a better rating than that even suggested they try my local credit union. The dealership lied and said they offered even higher than their preferred lender. So I wasn’t offered the best financial rate, I live in Central Virginia so let the buyers beware.

  • @bradbradshaw-i4n
    @bradbradshaw-i4n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    the truth is she is not to bright. she signed for it. also at 12 dollars an hour she is getting money from some place else. 12 dollars would not cover her bills. blame her not the system. if it cost to much walk away.

    • @rcas350pilot8
      @rcas350pilot8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      actually, she is bright, she got some simp to marry her, a single mom. They do it every time. I have seen them with over 200k in student loan debt and some guy waiting to marry them.

    • @peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472
      @peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can’t say that a person isn’t too bright when you don’t properly know how to form a sentence. Learn the difference between too, to and two. It’s important to know the difference.

    • @bradbradshaw-i4n
      @bradbradshaw-i4n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472 i call them as i see them. and at my age it's not important to know the difference about how i write or spell them. anyone who signs for a car with high interest rates and then complains they can't afford it is not to bright.

  • @Derylpmt
    @Derylpmt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    15k used Kia (one of the most unreliable OEMs) at 25% interest rate 😂

    • @webguy943
      @webguy943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She doesnt know any better.

    • @leedaniels7196
      @leedaniels7196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @SL-pg4dh
      @SL-pg4dh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Shes the stereotypical single mom of 3 with a kia

  • @Anon1mous
    @Anon1mous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Single mom of three? There’s your sign. Bad decisions are rarely made without other bad decisions.

    • @AKAAAK
      @AKAAAK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Maybe her husband died?? 🤔

    • @johnblood3731
      @johnblood3731 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@AKAAAKthen she would be a widow.

    • @AKAAAK
      @AKAAAK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@johnblood3731 Widow is still a single mother of 3 after the husband passes 🤔

    • @IP0Monsturd
      @IP0Monsturd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s all men’s fault.

    • @jeffmiesen
      @jeffmiesen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AKAAAKI’m pretty sure it would be mentioned in this story if he did.

  • @jamesh1641
    @jamesh1641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Where is the child support from
    all those baby daddies?

    • @truelife974
      @truelife974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As if that's really a thing.

    • @bigbeefjoedaddy
      @bigbeefjoedaddy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@truelife974 Sure is. I paid over 100k in support

    • @DwightStJohn-t7y
      @DwightStJohn-t7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@truelife974 The internet sites are FULL of women using that term, though usually they're somewhat a darker shade of pale.

    • @PeymanSultan-wn6iw
      @PeymanSultan-wn6iw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s a MOOCHER

    • @Drew1701D
      @Drew1701D 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The real investigative journalism we need for this story.

  • @TheGubbermint
    @TheGubbermint 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So basically she voluntarily took on a terrible loan with a 25% rate, has poor credit, where's the father of her three kids? Where's her husband?

    • @Cruel_Shoes
      @Cruel_Shoes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, it was very rare to have an absent parent unless they died. Divorce was very rare . Especially if you lived in a small town like I did. But today, first argument, they call it quits in a relationship. Nobody knows how to compromise. They have been brainwashed all their lives, thinking that they can have it all or they don’t have to settle for less. Yes you do have to compromise and yes, you do have to settle for less than you expect. It’s called life. And these women pop out kids that the government will ultimately have to help support, because there is no way she can support herself let alone three kids making $12 an hour. I’m retired in my income averages a little less than $26 an hour. That is pure retirement income and I do not work. But there is no way that I can support myself and three kids on this amount of money and I have very low expenses, especially when it comes to housing.

    • @TheGubbermint
      @TheGubbermint 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Cruel_Shoes 👏I agree, honestly it infuriates me when I see people who think they're entitled to something, no you aren't entitled to have three kids and be able to afford life by yourself, nobody is entitled to live alone either, you either afford it or go find a roommate, boyfriend, husband or live with your family, welfare isn't an answer either. Thousands of years our ancestors lived together and compromised in the most dirty and harsh conditions, that's how they survived, but now it's 2024 and they think they're entitled to something different? Get out of here!!!

  • @cxa340
    @cxa340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow, you mean people with bad credit and irresponsible spending habits have to pay more in interest for the risk that they represent? What these people and advocates really want is for everyone else with good credit and responsible finances to pay a lot more in our lives for the decisions of others. I bought 2 brand new cars the same time this lady bought her 1 used car, and we paid 0% interest on both vehicles because we had an over 800 credit score, no debt, and low expenses.

  • @williamprice3929
    @williamprice3929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It's nobody's fault but hers. If you can't getting down and write some simple figures on a piece of paper and understand what they mean, then your a dolt. Another one with, "If I cry loud enough, people will give me stuff for free." It doesn't matter if you think you need this, I need that, but you work jobs that don't pay, wellllllll?

  • @utbb57
    @utbb57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A terrible credit score, late on payments, let's the car get repossessed, had a 25% interest rate, didn't think she'd have to pay anything after her multiple extensions?? Jiminy Crickets!!
    Brought to you by bad idea blue jeans.

  • @PeymanSultan-wn6iw
    @PeymanSultan-wn6iw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It’s clear why she is a single mom.
    What a piece of work!🎉🎉🎉

  • @Priust189
    @Priust189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    $12 an hour?!

    • @alexasphotosgeneral3584
      @alexasphotosgeneral3584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That’s considered high in Texas😢

    • @yomoma6141
      @yomoma6141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Priust189 $12 an hour and $2000 rent

    • @ryder4508
      @ryder4508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She probably won the house in the divorce and gets child support, too.

    • @yomoma6141
      @yomoma6141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Priust189 $12 an hour and $2000 rent

    • @Xx-po1fu
      @Xx-po1fu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Federal Minimum Wage: $7.25 per hour

  • @Niafunn
    @Niafunn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I mean they provide a service for poor people and people with poor credit. They could have just repo’d the cars and still charged them for it. They are taking all the risk, they gave someone 15000 dollars they immediately stopped paying. Sounds like you should pays your bills and raise your credit, live within your means and buy cash cars equivalent to there situation. “They gave me a loan I couldn’t afford” really? Like you had no choice in the matter?

  • @davesrvchannel4717
    @davesrvchannel4717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Highly likely the sales rep at dealership got a kickback for getting the loan. Part of her sales commission

  • @mikedubovs1574
    @mikedubovs1574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    All things aside... Having no credit or bad credit.. sets you up for failing

    • @Enronauditor
      @Enronauditor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      False. Stop saying this bs. Having no credit is far better than bad credit. People with no credit would simply have to put more down

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Enronauditor- that's the problem. If you are like her, you dint have more money to out down. Having good credit leaves you with more options

    • @Enronauditor
      @Enronauditor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ecclairmayo4153 if she didn’t have money to put down she shouldn’t have bought a house!

    • @mikedubovs1574
      @mikedubovs1574 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm no.. no credit is worse

  • @SC_XOLOs
    @SC_XOLOs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First mistake was having poor credit. You can lease a Kia for cheaper. She signed that high APR. Furthermore, she wanted that extension. What do people think extensions are ? A time off without paying interest?

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I distinctly remember that last time I bought a vehicle, even what caliber pistol the salesman was holding to my head. But I was stuck, no options at all. (Too much satire?)

  • @elmobolan4274
    @elmobolan4274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a woman and totally green when it comes to buying a car - I'm educating myself on behalf of youtube. No one is going to save you except you.

  • @chaoticallysay2625
    @chaoticallysay2625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dont do it not for student loans, personal loans, or cars/mortgages!!! They try to double or even triplet charge.😊

  • @7SideWays
    @7SideWays 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She may have needed A car, but def not that car or that ridiculous rate.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's tough when all options are bad

  • @alexkennedy5024
    @alexkennedy5024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:16 "They are working everyday to dig themselves out of debt, but can now afford two vehicles with the help of a different lender".
    It sounds like they actually can't afford two vehicles.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly!! Other debts are put on thr back burner

  • @Maryanne-xo5ip
    @Maryanne-xo5ip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    25k loan @25% int making $12 an hr w bad credit and you thought this was a good idea? Uber never crossed your mind? come on now

    • @zachgreen2874
      @zachgreen2874 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Believe it or not, but Uber is not readily available in all communities or areas. It's more uncommon than common in my experience.

    • @Mrs.TJTaylor
      @Mrs.TJTaylor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And busses?

    • @glitchy_weasel
      @glitchy_weasel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbf, Uber could count as commercial use - meaning that you could pay more on insurance etc.

    • @Mrs.TJTaylor
      @Mrs.TJTaylor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@glitchy_weasel I took it as she could use Uber rather than buy a car she couldn’t afford. Not that she could drive Uber.

    • @Maryanne-xo5ip
      @Maryanne-xo5ip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mrs.TJTaylor yes

  • @jivefive99
    @jivefive99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This is a lady that just bounces from bad luck to bad luck. She did get a car when no one else would give her one. Then she went into the "real estate" industry for a job ... last thing to happen will be a divorce from the new husband ...

    • @harmonykor
      @harmonykor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't know you could see the future...

    • @carolr7823
      @carolr7823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She could have gotten a much cheaper car. She got an expensive car that she couldn't afford.

    • @jivefive99
      @jivefive99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@carolr7823 Cheaper cars have cheaper parts that break more often. But if this was all she could afford ...

    • @Aki_Lesbrinco
      @Aki_Lesbrinco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not really. It seems like she puts herself in terrible situations because of her poor decisions. Luck doesn't have anything to do with it

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luck suggests she has no control at all over her life. Sure, some things you can't control, but many things we can.

  • @MM-yz7fz
    @MM-yz7fz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Its a risk based approach for these companies charging these interest rates. She has subprime credit/bad credit score, surely she shouldn't have expected to get the same credit terms as someone with a prime credit score. These companies do care about profit but they also provide auto loans for people that otherwise would never be able to afford a car.

  • @Shackleford_Rusty
    @Shackleford_Rusty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Personal accountability is key, this isn’t so much a banks fault but the person who knows they can’t afford the vehicle did nothing to save money for the down payment or take any financial responsibility. Buy a used cheap car for a couple thousand dollars and save money for a better car. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @felixthecat2786
    @felixthecat2786 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    America has turned into a debt trap nightmare. I paid off my car loan 4 years ago and never plan on driving ever again.

  • @esteban1487
    @esteban1487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    She signed the contract.

  • @barnabusdoyle4930
    @barnabusdoyle4930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys should do a story on the growing trend of debt collection companies putting liens on homes for credit card debt that have no legal right to do so.

  • @lazarus381
    @lazarus381 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I will always be on the side on the consumer, this lady saying that "they didn't explain what the extension was to her" is just ridiculous! You are an adult, you should always ask how much you will owe at the end of the process, how much the interest rate is, and what the penalties are. Same thing with people taking payday loans and complaining that they didn't know it was a bad loan.

  • @walterpierce6061
    @walterpierce6061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There are banks and loan companies who charge even higher rates including Ally Bank.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to know, because everyone makes Ally seem like it's a good bank for people who need a second chance.

  • @guitarlessonswith4480
    @guitarlessonswith4480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You didn't think interest would keep accruing while not making a payment? Not saying this lender is on the up & up. Clearly, they're not. They remind me of student loans.

  • @larkt6693
    @larkt6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another mistake she made was buying A KIA 😊

  • @josephfromtheatl9113
    @josephfromtheatl9113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best car you can purchase is the one you pay for with cash so that you have no car payments.
    Source: The Dave Ramsey Show

  • @elwhapposanchez7926
    @elwhapposanchez7926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    25% interest rate on a auto loan should be criminal.

  • @MrXR77
    @MrXR77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ignorance is not an excuse.

  • @kenyabee9448
    @kenyabee9448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    She had bad credit, no savings and still drove off in a car...she should be thanking this company. Pay or walk

  • @alexwright9228
    @alexwright9228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is where they want the majority of Americans , the new shackles is (bad) debt

    • @danielemerson6833
      @danielemerson6833 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't go into debt. The bank is bigger than your house because of interest. No cash,no item. No problem. Note she went back for another loan.

  • @coderider3022
    @coderider3022 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    25% ! Always someone else’s fault.

  • @jjman533
    @jjman533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Predatory? You have bad credit because you are bad in finance and math. No one forced you to take the loan. Your rate is based on your risk and credit worthiness. I highly doubt she could afford the car even with a 0% interest.

  • @2040wagon
    @2040wagon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I refinanced a Geo Metro twice through GMAC. It took me 9 years aprox to pay it off. Geo was dying, head liner came off ceiling, defrost quite, cv joint barely moving, got stolen ib nice neighborhood but still had original clutch. Will always be grateful to GM for that. Might get a new Trax or Trailblazer..

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So you have bad credit, you need a loan; don’t complain about the interest. Especially when you don’t make your payments. Furthermore, it doesn’t surprise me that a sub-prime lender has higher delinquency rates, it makes perfect sense actually. Mind boggling.

  • @76482
    @76482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We've all made choices, and all choices have consequences - good or bad. I'm tired of people expecting special treatment just because they birthed some kids. Everyone w/o kids needs the income and credit score to obtain decent auto loans.

    • @KJJ782
      @KJJ782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly 👍 why would they take out a loan if they can’t afford it, that just spells trouble

  • @jsundberg5542
    @jsundberg5542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think it's funny that as humans we blame other humans for our own decisions!! that's why some of us are where we r at!!! 😂

  • @barnabusdoyle4930
    @barnabusdoyle4930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact, the mortgage modification that came out of 2007 and really got pushed during Covid is a very similar program. People who were able to skip months of payments, up to a year, are going to find those missed payments plus interest due immediately when they pay off their primary mortgage or sell their house.

  • @donniedarko979
    @donniedarko979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Waived mortgage payments during covid did the same by big banks.

  • @MySkinnydip
    @MySkinnydip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought my neighbors Hyundai Santa Fe for 500.00! It’s not the nicest looking car but it’s comfortable and runs great.

  • @Mrs.TJTaylor
    @Mrs.TJTaylor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No. This woman makes bad decisions. She buries her head in the sand. There are consequences for intentional ignorance.

  • @shelbynamels973
    @shelbynamels973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are so many moving and unexplained parts to this story, there is no point in commenting when there are so many things we don't know or that could be viewed differently than the way they are being presented.

  • @michellejackson8259
    @michellejackson8259 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lady be a school bus driver $15.67-$22 an hour.

  • @RalphNorton-x9p
    @RalphNorton-x9p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dave Ramsey all day long

  • @webguy943
    @webguy943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank god i bought my car a decade ago

  • @FenrirsBite77
    @FenrirsBite77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    She didn't need to buy that expensive used kia. She needed to listen to Dave Ramsey

    • @mmp495
      @mmp495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      D.R. my hero. Paid off my house following his plan. ❤

  • @dimitriberozny3729
    @dimitriberozny3729 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And if you don’t pay for it,they disable the vehicle by an app on an IPhone!!

    • @NewEraChi
      @NewEraChi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That should be against the law!

    • @dimitriberozny3729
      @dimitriberozny3729 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NewEraChi Sorry,but many pay by the week shady used car lots do this dispicible thing!!

  • @kgraamd
    @kgraamd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THEY GAVE YOU A LOAN THAT YOU COULDN'T AFFORD? NO THATS BS YOU TOOK A LOAN THAT YOU COULDN'T AFFORD.
    TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

  • @HighHorsepower220
    @HighHorsepower220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Biden/Harris Voters

  • @garystursa1353
    @garystursa1353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't buy cars you can't afford

  • @jonmello6951
    @jonmello6951 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With the internet available why don't people do their own research? I do not feel bad for these people. Nobody forced you to use that finance company

  • @DeshaunD
    @DeshaunD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can get a car on lay away in Memphis. And Southaven, MS. I was too through when I heard that.

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exeter is a bit predatory since it seems they take the riskiest clients, she was a bit on the loose, saw 25% interest with a minimal wage, and said "ok nice". Then they offer her things, and she didn't even bother to ask the meaning and what it does.
    The end result was this story.

  • @paule8536
    @paule8536 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Personal responsibility folks. We are now a nation of victims!

  • @pahana
    @pahana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take it from experience, if you've got a high interest auto loan you've been paying on time for a couple of years, you need to explore a refinance for a much lower rate. You'll have a better chance of getting a decent loan at that point.

  • @1398go
    @1398go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “I don’t know if I could do this but I needed a car”…. Next time just take a bus….no one needs to be in debt for a car……

    • @nanismeelasla
      @nanismeelasla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not everywhere in the US has buses, even less have buses that can actually be used reliably.

    • @1398go
      @1398go 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nanismeelaslaget a used car away from these loans. I get “not everywhere in the US has buses”!!!! Smartas s

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Car dealerships already have the majority of people in a difficult situation when they come in, because they’re in need of a car. The dealership isn’t concerned about someone once they drive off the lot and wouldn’t care if someone can afford the loan or not. The lender is all about making money off high risk loans that can’t afford the payments, and that interest rate was disgusting, at 25%.

  • @Julian-do7bv
    @Julian-do7bv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    During covid I deferred a couple car payments but I knew what was coming with doing that it didnt just make the payments go away they even charged a $75 fee to defer the payments plus there would be extra interest on the loan but now I have fully paid off my vehicle and sending in that final payment felt so good

  • @Steve65065
    @Steve65065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you are poor, you don't spend 15 grand on a car. I paid 600 for mine and it's been running great for years. All she has to do is find a car guy to go shopping for used cars. I have no sympathy for her.

    • @queen.kristal8395
      @queen.kristal8395 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree with 3 kids on top of that. you cannot afford any cars

  • @valeriebrown7946
    @valeriebrown7946 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did she, with 3 kids, get a new man? Was he recently released from prison?

    • @tltinatl
      @tltinatl หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably at church. I'm mostly kidding but I've seen it happen there several times. Usually a divorced, 50ish guy with adult kids marrying a woman in her mid - late 30s who has kids still in the house.